/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>7121765
first for anime girls with big boobas

>>7121765
i finally finished this after like 3 months or something, never again

>>7121825
file attached this time

>>7121826
Good work anon, I like the texturing.

I won’t contribute to this thread because I no longer draw.

My sister drew this. I only do digital and my black and white shading always looks shit, is it easier to do shading with trad or is my sister just better than me?

>>7121826
where did his face go

How are you all doing Anon? What is keeping you alive?

drew ff from the stone ocean on shot. Second one came out wonkier then the first one

Face kinda looks too feminine I think.

>>7121769
Mmm yes I'd like to feel her shapes
>>7121826
Your rendering is pretty good, the underlying structure needs some work though
Cool coloring and brush effects
>>7121859
Green elf ears that's not something you see often
I like the colors
>How are you all doing Anon? What is keeping you alive?
Not sure

>>7121870
Nice line art, I will give the claymore a bit more weight, sink into the ground or some additional lineart to make it feel heavy.

>>7121826
:/

Today practices. ¿How my torsos looks?.

>>7121902
Reference

>>7121872
Thank you!
>or some additional lineart to make it feel heavy.
Like thicker lines?

>>7121849
When it comes to graphite/black and white I find trad rendering way easier than digital. More intuitive. Just try it and see how it goes for you.
Careful with comparing yourself to others.

Give me your Crit? Struggling a bit with the clothes

>>7121826
i guess you mean in the range of 3 months and of course not actually 3 months in time, bacause that will be really sad actually.
But yeah is fine if you take 8-12hours of actually active time on that and you are learning.

>>7121828
thank you
>>7121856
i take that as the shading being too dark? i thought i could get away with lazily using literal black for shading but maybe not
>>7121870
thanks! and what specific underlying structure issues stick out the most so i can work on them?
>>7121885
i kneel, this is a huge improvement and i didnt even notice the change in the arm angle until i looked at the two files side by side. this helped a lot, especially with the face muddiness, ty

Friendly reminder you don't need actual skill to make it.
guy even has a succesful patreon.

>>7121885
Soldja Boy!!!

>>7121849
"rendering" in trad with pencils is the most simple and monotonous uncreative shit tou can do, specially if you are just copying other shit, that's why the range of skill is so close between that and hiperrealism because you only need technique that is mechanical learning, and zero creative learning. Is the classic Proko meme and in the end it depends of the end point, if she is not gonna create anything, then is valid, but if she needs to create something from imagination, of course she has nothing to work.

>>7121902
yeah but i think that is a bad reference

is this fucked
I feel like I cant get the arms right and the torso might be too long

>>7121952
yeah, the proportions need work
use ref

>>7121935
You need to make a character made for BBC

>>7121957
I have to draw shit without ref or I'm never gonna get good at it

>>7121928
Yes start to end range-wise not actual time-wise, art app I use says 13 hours total spent on the canvas from start to finish.

>>7121962
using ref does not necessarily mean copying 1:1
use ref for the proportions only (take a character design sheet)
then come up with a new pose

>>7121765
>the subtle overlay of my shibuya drawing
jej

>>7121741
crit pls, was trying to mix in the textural stroke of the trees into things like the crosswalk and the people

>>7121935
I don't care about fame I only care if my work is quality or not

>>7121952
is that supposed to be a woman?, like a loli kind of shit? i dont care about thhose kind of drawings i only mention it to consider the body type.

>>7121952
is that supposed to be a woman? like a loli type of body? i only mention it to consider the body type.

Reposting my KtD project, this time with both apples it said to do.
Someone said the one on the left doesn't really look like an apple and...I can see where they're coming from.

>>7121952
You need to study proportions and construction first, then learn how muscles are laid out, you don't need to learn every single one, just the more important ones.

>>7121934
>thanks! and what specific underlying structure issues stick out the most so i can work on them?
General shapes and proportions.
Like the eyes are too close together, the sjawl doesn't feel like it fall on his body, his jaw need to be bigger

>>7121978
>>7121980
sorry i posted 2 times because i didnt the my comment in the thread.
The image is fine but a your level you need to focus one step at a time, instead on trying to get everything right, think on the little things that could improve the overall looking.
In yout image for example you can work on the general core zone, specially the armpits, and that will improve a lot the general looking of the body, remember the little details, that if you take more or less emphasis, can drastically change the appearance of the body, depending on whether you want it more or less realistic.

I've been on fire lately...
>>7121769
Absolutely hot, you too have been on fire lately.

didn't feel like drawing today again, but forced myself to anyway

Also sorry to expose myself as a Tumblr user, but I came across this list of /beg/ resources last night and want to know what you guys think: https://www.tumblr.com/kotori-mochi/734165137950490624/cant-afford-art-school

Any advice on drawing objects?
I know this one is simple as it's just cylinders but i still struggle with basic objects.
I watched some tutorials and did try mapping it out but it's like i'm missing something

>>7122014
You completely ignored perspective. There's your answer. Go and learn perspective

>>7122014
Near = bigger, far = smaller
That's all you have to know about perspective to spot the mistake you made. Always be aware of where you, the "camera", are in relation to the object.
Take some time to observe your subject before making any marks.

>>7122014
Take one shape you're confident in and build off that
It might be me but it seems like the camera (prob phone) made some kind of fish eye thigh idk
>>7122007
Based, habits build you

reference pose for the thread

>>7122063
we've done this one before

Ref 1/3

>>7122063
Again bro?

Here's a painting to reference

2/3

>>7122068
3/3

>>7121578
after looking back on it Ive realized I think the reason why I have these thoughts because I see artists I like but I go through their profile and majority of them are one trick ponies.

Reminder: Ignore textless pics, impractical critique, remade drawings solely intended to showcase apparent superior skill, obvious bait, non-obvious bait, Pawell, etc.

>>7121939
More than trying to give actual advice, you sound like you're trying to cope

Tried drawing Ashley.

>>7122042 >>7122024

Aight watched vid about perspective and built up from a block
Better now?

>>7122074
Those thoughts could be useful for honing your creative skills and humbling yourself.
Redraw their art with the changes you think could make it better.
If you're not willing to put those thoughts into practice, you may as well disregard them completely.
Either way be humble.

>>7122089
SHIIT IMAGE

>>7121981
Advice pls. I don't want to fall into the trap of "Do it a million times till you get it right" like I did with the hands, so I wanna know what I'm doing wrong so I can work on that.

>>7122064
>>7122066
What? When?

>>7122097
last month I think?
It's been a while

>>7122080
is not an advide, is an answer, anon asked about a particular question and i answer the true, realism in pencils is much more easy to learn than painting because in first place most of the people what used to do is to copy 1:1 a reference, is not an original drawing but a copy in an different medium, if you dont believe that is as simple as trying to do the same, and you will find that getting the correct values in pencil is much easer because you only need to start lighter and then add more black aka pass the pencil again or harder wherever you find that more darkness is necessary.
Another point that, exemplifies, is looking for any video of anyone who does realism or hyperrealism in pencils and look at how they build the image at the beginning before starting to fill with the pens, you will see in most of that 2 ways: one they make a "shape sketch" that is the contour of the image and key points, because is a copy of a reference, or the other is a simple sketch that focus on measures, in most of them the sketches lack dynamism and are quite rough and stiff, except when they start in a painter way of thinking, wich ususally ended look better. The values also looks kind of weird in lots of them because since they are not doing a life drawing or translating a real life, they grayscale a photo and that's why you clearly see a range of people that draw realism with fucked, washed out values, and another that do it much much better generally because they put more contrast when they convert the photo to grayscale, and that's show why actual painters that do real life when they go for realism are much high tier than the rest, because they already understand light theory unlike the rest, that also applies to people that tool the time to learn some basic drawing/painting fundamentals.

>>7122091
Yes the idea is right the execution needs some more work.

>>7122096 >>7121981
First off: what observations do you have about your drawing? Why doesn't it look like an apple/your reference? Write your thoughts and observations right by the side of the drawing and try again.
2 or 3 attempts are probably enough

>>7122091 >>7122089
I also advise you work on your line control. Good thing is you don't even need to grind - just be more mindful about your lines next time you draw. Use the least amount possible. Do use an eraser if necessary.

>>7122096

>>7122109
Well my first observation is my drawing seems flat, at least to me, so it needs more depth. I also couldn't really draw that, I'm not sure what to call it, dent around the stem.
Now I was drawing the apple on it's side, rather than upright like the "image" apple. I'm not sure how much that would affect it though. But given how the hand project was done at an unusual angle, I think I have trouble drawing objects like that.
Other than that I can't think of anything else.

>>7122120
I'm comparing my results with yours. I definitely see the differences but I'm having trouble putting it into words. I wanna say it's "Mine still looks crude even with a reference" but I'm not entirely sure.

>>7121981
>>7122123
Why is your form so off? Can you even draw cartoonish looking apples? Can you try these for a start?

>>7122142
>>7122123
>>7121981
Forgot pic

>>7122118
Thanks for feedback
I think this one is best so far but i this time i messed up foreshortening at the end

how would you improve this?

>>7122142
>Can you even draw cartoonish looking apples?
That would be the first one I drew, on the right. That's what KtD says to do.
But I guess I'll do it again. If it looks bad then IDK what to do man.

>>7122118
How do the fuck do you get so good.
I should go buy a rope and figure out how to tie a knot goddamn.

>>7121765
How can i improooof?

>>7122164
make her look like asuka

>>7122180
design, anatomy, stylization, pose, etc.

>>7122180
bigger booba

>>7122180
finishing it

>>7122164
Don’t draw a floating head especially for something like this.

>>7122209
I ment more specifically, just grind till it gets good?

>>7122245
why not?

Some older work, moving on to digital to improve consistency

>>7122249
It’s lazy and limits your improvement and how much you can express even if the face is decently expressive. You could show more with body language like if she’s struggling or enjoying it or whatever and a simple enough background to indicate where they are. No need to do a full body or anything detailed, just whatever would be in frame here that would stimulate the viewer's imagination.

>>7122255

new day new drawing, this time its chiyo chan

>>7122257
so how would I do that here? what should I add to make it look like she's struggling and asphyxiating?

Yo guys, I have a question. I have been playing around with tone curves like you asked and I think I nailed it down, though I feel there are room for improvments. What do you suggest to spice up my rendering?

>>7122259
did you want to draw a bird's eye-view? cause torso is too short, also left hand looks short
>>7122277
do you plan to do cel-shading? 'cause I'd say to work on soft shadows

>>7122269
nice, but look at chiyo's reference face, yours looks like it's melting

In desperate need of penmanship resources. My current writing style is godawful and i need to improve it STAT.

Please and thank you!

>>7122303
I hear sir reginald of smegsby wrote a magnificent manuscript on the topic, yes... quite... hmmm yes.. penmanship... quite...

>>7122292
>Cell shading

For personal project, I have yet to fully master it for commission. But I may be mastering Soft shading and I may not be knowing it. Can you give me some advice?

>>7122303
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGUDQ1F5tco

>>7122294
>7122294
oh yeah you're completely right. I could not get that bottom face shape right and sort of gave. ill try and fix it later

Extreme /beg/ here, I'm following the sticky and I'm at drawabox. It says to use your shoulder but I find that really awkward, is there a problem if I use my elbow? I feel like that gave better results in the first exercises, using the shoulder simply made me do shorter and longer lines than I wanted, and the lines are more wobbly too.

her right arm is kinda fucked, isn't it?
I can't draw hands

>>7122374
*her left arm I mean

>>7122164
delete the image

>>7122271
I would add the rest of the body that’s visible and have her hands reaching up trying to get the other hands off her neck. If you look at other asphyxiation art you can get some ideas to reference.

>>7122373
you can use your shoulder, elbow, and wrist but hold the pencil in a way that won't tempt you to bend your fingers. Since you're older than 4 building finger dexterity isn't an option

the Peter Han pen training (what drawabox is based on) does recommend using only the shoulder and holding the pen vertically as a drill for fighting wobbly hands but it's not how anyone normally draws

>>7122377
already done some of that, not sure what to do for the shoulders

>>7122380
>not sure what to do for the shoulders
have you tried drawing them

>>7122381
have you tried taking that stick out of your ass?

>>7122165
So uh, now what?

>>7122382
your art sucks and you should commit suicide

>>7122388
post your work

>>7122389
Here you go

How is the lighting?

>>7122395
wheres the light source coming from exactly?

nodraws getting real uppity today

>>7122401
is her face perfectly flat? why are the tears going straihg tdown? there should be a slight curve cuz the face has curves

>>7122400
top, like some spotlights are on the statue from top right and top left

>>7122335
hers hands are slightly off but ill leave it at that for now

>>7122402
what about now?

>>7122120
oh ya... btw im the guy who's doing observational drawing for a year and it's been going great just taking a break however cus I've literally been drawing for 60 days straight, probably just 2 days but still.

I'll check back with u guys February
>inb4 someone telling it's me not gonna work
the point of this experiment is that I've never seen someone dedicate a year to a fundamental and I always wanted to try that and show you guys my results to see if you should do it too

>>7122420
they should curve over her cheeks like this

>>7122421
The books I was recommended were KTD

drawing on the right side of the brain and the science of drawing..... If you guys have any more recommendations let me know when I tell you I completed all those books

>>7122422

>>7122010
The YouTube section kinda sucks books section is good though

>>7122292
I tried soft shadows.....I may need some help

>>7122436
Slight update

>>7122437
idk what ur trying to test but the bottom one looks better and fits the style more

>work on soft shadows
Soft is a cope

Just kidding, and I abuse it more than anyone. But it has some truth just ask Sinix :]
This is not an example.

>>7122444
still a solid example of what I was aiming for at the time. Thanks, I will bug the ever loving fuck out of him.

>>7122439
The bottom feels more like my cup of tea. Maybe I should master it a bit more before going for cell. Thanks though.

Also, I feel like I manage to make a vintage vibe of shading.

Any suggestions to help me do better with soft shading?

Sup beg, yesterday i failed to draw, it is OVER.

>>7122395
i wouldnt call it lighting when rest is vacuum, but it implies form and thats all what matters: its good enough. pro beg tip: make the void different color than the figure color for easy appeal gains: instead of 2 values you will suddenly have 3, that is 50% more for 2 mouse clicks
>>7122373
shoulder makes sense with large canvases and overhand grips. take it more as a suggestion instead of hard rule. also i recc picking up keys to drawing instead of that trash fire of a course. but who knows, maybe you will love the box spam
>>7122259
very cool
>>7122164
making linework... less random
>>7122096
>what I'm doing wrong so I can work on that
you haven't drawn enough kilometers of line from reference. less thinking, more drawing. the more the better, go to next KtD chapters and projects, copy all drawings from the book while you are at it
>>7122082
bad value range but it has SOUL
>>7122014
keys to drawing
>>7122010
looks alright
>>7122003
i would add glow effect to the moon and backlight rim to peach, but still... cute and i kneel
>>7121997
i kneel
>>7121971
that project (of the book) is very ambitious for beg. and on top you picked really hard scene to depict. move on (yes, the drawing is VERY beg)
>>7121926
i dont like how you didnt foreshorten the arm on right. typically in scenes like this you want to foreshorten (shorter) the other arm for depth gains. as drapery goes just yandex jeans and steal some reference for realistic folds
>>7121859
NICE
>>7121849
>is it easier to do shading with trad
instead of copium i recc keys to drawing, chapter about light
>>7121769
BOOBA

Do you guys have any resources or tutorials on drawing backgrounds?

I asked before but was just told to learn color theory or a color and light book that doesnt help me.

>>7122451
https://archive.org/details/PerspectiveMadeEasy/

heheh :D
I don like fat people

>>7122514
To much mass for your canvas lol?

>>7122514
you felt the form too much

>>7122450
good work bro

beginning sketch

Some stuff from imagination, current goal is to loosen up my figures because I draw them way too stiff looking.

>>7122001
I kneel. Do you have a blog?

work in progress. having trouble deciding what lighting i should use. any crit?

>>7121765
Did this while i was at the museum

>>7122450
So..Mr.CEO of beg and crabs, big man Pawell..have you got any tips for me on how to go about finding me a cute Czech lady? I mean learning Czech would be a first, I can deduce that much. I've read they are pretty open to things and their beauty is unquestionable, without a doubt. Do you have one yourself or are you Loomis wizard like the rest of the crabs in here?

>>7122073

>>7122625
Kazakh girls are where it's at bro

>>7122634
Well I can't argue with that, Kazakh women are really beautiful. I'd have to choose whether to learn Kazakh or Russian and neither option sounds like a low commitment project, I wonder if Czech is any harder than those.

Despite how pretty Kazakh women are, there's a reason why places like CzechCasting or Czechmassage exist, I mean besides the implied human trafficking networks that 'employ' them; there's something about them, some are VERY well endowed too (see Alena#8605 if you please, is just my type) could be some inherited genetic trait type of thing IDK.

>>7121902
>Doing construction is easy all you need are boxes, cylinders and spheres!
>The fucking boxes in question

>>7122652
Reference. Ignore the notations in spanish I'm just a third worlder who wants to draw his waifu.

Robin

>>7122165
>>7122383
You lack coordination
You should practice drawing shapes. Squares, triangles, and especially circles.

I couldn't figure out the proportion of the arms.

:<

Guys my tablet always uses gestures when I don't need it while drawing, like it opens radial menu, rotates canvas, zooms, opens windows notification centre and etc. I could disable gestures but i want to use zoom/rotate function. Also why in CSP canvas rotates only to the one side?

>>7122624
Werent you embarrassed?

Why it's so wrong

>>7122747
your construction is painful to look at, just because it's a sketch doesn't mean you should scribble down half a dozen lines going in different directions

>>7122745
Check your tablets software.

>>7122450

>acknowledgement of PAWELL
Brother and sisters who bath in the glorious light, forever smiling, forever shinning.

>>7122742
Good stuff, conveys emotion really well.
Gmi.

>>7122747
Tug in the chin so it lines up with the centerline to avoid the ape look. And realize farside eyes can be obscured by the nose instead of wrapping the eye around the head.

>>7122769

how can i make the eyes look less retarded? i dont want to make super slim eyebrows

>>7122708
lazy color :/

>>7122768
thanks bro

>>7122773
Looks like the eyes connecting on the bridge of the nose.

4 hours for this, is it over?

>>7122786
That's hot

>>7122787
lol she reminds me of kagome. Anyway it's fine you'll get faster with time, the lines are clean and the coloring is nice, should have spent more time drawing the lineart for her hair and hands too.

hi /beg/

I'm so retarded i literally made something completely different despite looking at reference

This doesn't look in perspective T_T

>>7122631
How do i improve this linework?

>>7122803
It looks like you attempted extreme perspective, but forgot the "perspective" part, I am not home, so have this mspaint diagram to jog your memory, since you are not beg, I trust you are good enough to understands the mistake

>>7122800
I do this all the time lololol

>>7122416
pretty nice anon!

perspective seems off, some advice?

>>7122815
looks heavily referenced, post ref, the torso n arms are fuked up

>>7122815
I think it's because you put her arms behind her back. Were you avoiding drawing hands?

I'm doing my hybrid /beg/ drawing and I Ching thing.
Hexagram 26, line three "... practice chariot driving and armed defence..." (possible mistranslation, but at least two sources say this.)
So I chose an appropriate image. I was going to render it in pen, but (like many of my drawings) I'm tempted to just finish it in pencil.
This is the most I've done in about a month. I've simply had no time and energy. Feels good to draw again!

>>7122768
What emotion is that?

Is drawing daily using a reference a good way to improve or do I need to be doing more specific exercises ?

>>7122826
>References
I fought using references at first.
Do it.
Really.
>Daily
Daily anything is good. But I've found that switching it up keeps you from stagnating. Draw a car parked out your window. Draw a weed in your yard. Watch a podcast and draw the guy without hitting pause. Don't just draw sloots.

>>7122803
It doesn't look like it at all. You are right anon. Try making the top part width bigger than the bottom part

>>7122799
Hi /int/

>>7122793
it is kagome

>>7122480
I get perspective, but I'm looking for guides on backgrounds and stuff.

>>7122815

The earthquake has me too upset. I can’t draw today.

>>7122862
You don’t understand it as well as you think you do if you can’t apply it to a background, unless you mean abstract backgrounds. You have to consider the perspective and scene before drawing the character too.
>>7122745
Use one of those artist gloves that stops your palm from triggering the tablet?

Reminder: Ignore textless pics, impractical critique, remade drawings solely intended to showcase apparent superior skill, obvious bait, non-obvious bait, Pawell, etc.

How to draw character trembling effect like in manga?

fix my heads pls

>>7122916
why is everyone losing their minds over a little vibration?

>>7122973
can't, i'm not a neurologist

>>7122973
It's nice. Not like my >>7122747

>>7122800
>>7122800
Hypothetical question
If i made something that clearly looks completely different to image i'm referencing such as the style being different would it count as it's own piece as this one is just too redraw of an another piece with their touch and i see that mine study feels more something different than theirs so why not just use both as reference and make something third with my touch?

>>7123007
sure but if you post that on your socials or whatever make sure to credit or tag the original author, not only will it give you more exposure but it will also cover your ass in case someone decides to call you out for it.

>>7123014
Alright then,
No problem, i'll write it as it is and credit when i finish it
Now excuse me i have to grind drawing objects in my room like an autist

>>7122975
I barely felt it but apparently it's got my cats freaked the fuck out

>>7122685
You know that's what that Brent Eviston book says to do first.
Maybe I should quit KtD and use that instead.

>>7122994
this anon gave good advice
>>7122769
i didn't realize that the chin should be receding from the centerline, even though it's so obvious in the side view

>>7122623
bump?? any crits? i just got ignored lol

>>7122623
it looks weird without him resting his elbows on something

>>7123046
yea in the sketch layer theres a chair hes sitting on. my reference is this btw

face practice

>>7122450
>that project (of the book) is very ambitious for beg
eh yeah, i'm just doing them as I go though. Dunno what happened, I keep having days where my art doesn't look half bad and then there's days where my drawings look like shit. Currently in the latter.

alright bros I need your help, it was recommended to not draw with music however i draw in a small cafe in a grocery store in El Super, sometimes they play music and sometimes they don't know but it's generally loud in there. Would this hurt my Drawing skills?

>Why are you drawing there
I work there and when I'm done with my breaks the bus picks me up in like 1 hours and 30 minutes
>Inb4 are you Hispanic
Yes.

So... my question would this hurt my gains?

>>7123070
>with
I meant without sorry

>>7123070
>would this hurt my gains?
only if the music is very loud and distracting to the point that you can't focus

>>7123070
>>7123072
I misread my own post twice, as you can tell English isn't my first language and I apologize

>>7122450
Okay but people saying my problem is my lack of coordination. Will drawing from reference improve that?

>>7123050
then use that light if you clearly are using high contrast

>>7123070
Just fucking dibuja, mi negro. This isn't /fit/, you don't have to be a minmaxing hyper autismo, drinking 0.348 milligrams of gorilla semen to get 0.023% more gains. Unless the music is so loud you can't concentrate whatsoever, just draw and study and you will improve.

did a portrait of my grandfather while he was sleeping. you guys like it?

>>7123089
dam...your grandfather bald...

>>7122773
use references

>>7123070
You will have negative art gains and basically become retarded if you draw with music playing, DONT DO IT

>>7123095
he has alopecia...

>>7122787
yeah, try to concentrate and move the hands more next time, looks like you are getting distracted and you are not working.

>>7122821
hope you've having fun anon

>>7122826
yes but take care on search for proper references, please dont use 3d models, please dont use another person drawings if you are still learing, just stick to real life people photos to not adquire all the bad habits that you could gain trying to copy bad references.

>>7123089
Marc?

>>7123106
My number one stalker ex-girlfriend.

still a work in progress, but its coming along

>>7123104
Whats wrong with using other peoples drawing? Ive been using manga references

how in the fuck do you properly place the eyes on the face
holy shit

>>7123139
That anon doesn’t want you to pick up other artists’ bad habits and mistakes but I say if it’s appealing then it’s fine even if technically wrong. Appeal is another important skill that people here tend to ignore but there’s no point drawing boring, correct things. When you study fundies you will unlearn the bad habits so you should do that alongside your copies instead of just copying from drawings.

>>7122787
>less than 15 lines in total
As a rule of thumb if youre taking extremely long to do very little (constantly retrying) you straight up just dont know something and youre wasting your time

>>7123146
i'm not good enough to redline but were you deliberately going for the dbz hyper-stylized frowning?
other than that the eye's too long imo, when viewed from the side even anime girl eyes get shortened to show that the socket isn't front-facing

>>7123155
I try to simplyfy stuff to make it look good but I don't think i have enough knowledge to that yet I think.

>>7123139
It somewhat autistic but humans do mistakes intentionally or not and you will reproduce it without understanding or get confused. I do notbelive it is big deal because learning beauty is more important then learning correct in my opinion and

Hi, any advice/critique ? Anything's appreciated.

>>7123128
great work, I used it as ref
hope you dont mind

>>7123170
Is that Proko ?

>>7123166
I would like it if not the head and tail spikes, so we just can't get along. :/

perky pig

>>7123181
Yeah, sorry lol, the character looks like that.

>>7123166
I was too distracted by boobs to notice, but the perspective of stage need correction, horizon need to be much lower. figure or back need complete redraw to make sense

>>7123146
A little update, would appreciate some critique or correction.

>>7123187
Thanks for the answer ! I used this image as reference. The perspective works in the picture, why does it look weird in my pic ?

>>7123089
Anon, I....

>>7123019
Also btw is this too much for body to twist?

evergreens are the bane of my existence

>>7123175
thats proko and his kangabortion

>>7123146
>>7123196
The placement of the eyes varies depending on the style, but you should pay attention to the distance between the ear and the eye, for a realistic style it is around 3 eyes and for anime around 1.5 eyes
The ass also didn't seem to belong to the rest of the torso

>>7123196
also, check this

>>7123219
>>7123220
Thank you kindly, Anon.

>>7123219
Torso should be much longer

>>7122656
you should observe your reference better and overlap what you're doing with it to find where you fucked up and correct it, specially proportions

>>7123203
Nta but the eyeline on your figure is different from the ref and doesn’t match the horizon in the background you drew. You have to line them up. But you drew them from different angles so it won’t look right even if you shift her around, you have to redraw something or just keep it in mind when sketching your next pic.

fuck it I'll go read an actual tutorial

>>7123096
thanks man

no matter how shitty and depressed I feel I at least try to draw a little bit every day to not end up like the nodraw schizos

>>7123233
nta ? No no, your not the asshole at all, I asked a question and you gave me a good answer, thanks ! I guess I should have thought more about it; in the picture the photo was taken slightly from above.

>>7123233
nta ? No no, your not the asshole at all, I asked a question and you gave me a good answer, thanks ! I guess I should have thought more about it; in the picture the photo was taken slightly from above.

>>7123261
I'm cumming

This took me longer than I would have liked, but I did my first reference turntable. The colouring is pretty shitty and my line work isn't super amazing...the low detail style likely doesn't help. But whatever, I think I got her down pretty accurately for both sides (they line up well enough with some oddities here and there) and I am pretty satisfied with this.

But damn I spent too long on it, a week or so working on her. Guess my brain wasn't used to having to rotate something from the front and then to the side, but it wasn't quite as hard as I expected. The point I was gonna get to is I neglected my other studies to work on this, so I won't be doing any more reference sheets for a while until my skills progress significantly, just took me too long and I would rather sketch figure studies or more fun pictures than characters A/T Posing.

And for the record I have VERY little experience colouring so yeah, that's why it looks so shitty. And I did intentionally have it look messy just to get it done quicker.

>>7122450
thx anon, will do

>>7123089
Did he wake up?

>>7123266
What software do you use? You can use selection tools to fill in color more easily.

>>7123284
yeah of course.

>>7123206
What?

>>7123219
Soul vs souless

Sup beg, today i was slacking in perspective.

>>7123266
https://docs.krita.org/en/reference_manual/tools/fill.html
>>7123237
that is surprisingly good and appealing, watercolor tradchad wins again! hands are very beg
>>7123166
bad value range
>>7123070
less thinking, more drawing
>>7123057
nice animes
>>7122912
the neck wouldnt be visible in that pose, try it yourself to look down and to stick your neck out at the same time... super awkward
>>7122862
then you need to specify your question. cause there are cityscapes, landscapes, seascapes, drawing foliage, composition etc... what exactly do you mean by backgrounds? and honestly if you DO know perspective, then doing background is rather trivial unless you want something majestic happening in the background
>>7122826
>>7123080
yes, you improve at drawing by... drawing. though supplying the grind with a little theory from books cannot hurt, only speed up the process
>>7122807
the receding leg could be lighter for extra depth gains
>>7122799
nice rake brush usage, it reminds me of Leyendecker
>>7122776
booba, the line work is awful
>>7122747
try using references or some book like loomis or even perspective books: eyes distance not foreshortened, the nose is flat / sunken into skull instead of pushed forward, nonexistent cheekbones. tldr use reference
>>7122625
all european women are courted the same way: 1. meet them (badoo, starbucks, bar, pool, facebook, abortion clinic), 2. chat them up and if it goes well 3. ask them out. you dont need to aim just for czech women, all slavic women looks +- the same: europe is now full of young refugee women from ukraine for example
>>7122583
my figures also have same problem. gesture truly is important

>>7123308
pawell if you're gonna build figures why not add anatomy or stylize them onto your own style? it's gonna build your art style in the long run,no?

>>7123315
>in the long run

>>7123308
Could you be more descriptive ? Why is it bad ? Is it too small ? Should the difference between light and dark be more noticeable ?

man i'm not feelin it today either

I do not think I tried this approach before.

>>7123305
insecure crab lol

Anyone else draw better then they're drunk?

I feel I've identified my problem. Rather than doing as Loomis suggests, and using the principles of construction to create my own forms, I've only been poorly copying his drawings (following along with his construction), without coming to a full understanding of the underlying principles. Not only that, but I became impatient and skipped ahead. I imagine this is a common beginner's mistake.
I'm not entirely sure how I should solve this problem. Should I fully eschew the study of existing artwork for a period, drawing purely from imagination while using the construction method? Or should I go all in on studying works that interest me and worry less about the technicalities? I've heard some suggest that the latter is how you should always learn how to draw; I only started going through FWAP because I've historically had better results in learning new skills through reading books.

>>7123413
>learning new skills through reading books.
You haven't learned jack shit then lol. All skills are learned through practice and emulating the masters.

>>7123413
draw bigger, silly niggy

>>7123413
Drop FWAP, read KtD, then learn what you want to learn using pic related.

>>7123422
I did make most of my progress through practice, as you say, but I feel that I couldn't have developed through practice so well without dedicated study of books building the foundation off of which I could grow.
Maybe I shouldn't take it so seriously for drawing since I have no plans to be a serious artist.
>>7123423
>>7123427
Noted, not dropping FWAP just yet though, I'll just try KtD in addition (I'm in no rush here so it's no problem)

>>7123413
If doodling is fun do it, but right now you can't draw well from imagination because you do not know what things LOOK like.
This will sound really pretentious but you need to look at things with an artist's eyes to draw, that's what keys and drawing on the right side are about. You have to overcome the biases your brain has formed since childhood and draw things as they really are, treat any object you draw as if it's an alien sculpture you've never seen before. That is to say don't guess, LOOK at it

Saggy

I fuck up the perspective so bad in these .

how would you fix this?

I'm developing my style

>>7123428
>>7123413
Observe things in real life more and try to break them down using the methods once you can see more accurately. Or maybe starting it now will help you learn to see more accurately.

>>7123455
Shoulders

I've had this design that I've been iterating on for a couple years. He's meant to be lanky but muscular, but I don't think I quite pull it off.

>>7123458
any advice for those struggling with observation? been following KtD and i was going string but now I'm not goin as strong

does this look alright?

>>7123465
I think you did pull it off (his cock which is clearly missing that is)

>>7123427
based af

>>7123480
is this you? like a self portrait? this is really good and very cute just like you are, very cute, could we possibly exchange discords?

>>7123474
He's dickless, sorry

>>7122746
You mean embarrassed of the drawing or embarrased of drawing at the museum?

Her body looks weird
I drew her ass too big?

>>7123510
arms too long

>>7123427
what if I do this for a year straight....

>>7123511
No.

>>7123466
What are you struggling with specifically? It’s really just an endless process of comparing what you drew to what you see and with experience you get better and notice more and more things that are off. You could try overlaying your drawing on the ref to make the shape/proportion differences easier to see?
>>7123472
You’re not really consistently following the surface of the form with your wrapping lines so try drawing all around as if the forms were transparent. Like on the top of the upper arm on the right you have a bunch of nearly straight lines even though it’s presumably supposed to be cylindrical so don’t rush it. Overall you seem to get the idea of using simplified forms so take your time to really feel the forms and all around them.

Can I be /int/ yet or do I still need to go back to the begmines

>>7123526
you could be making a living with art right now, anon

>>7123527
Like, for real? I did one commission a year ago and I hated it.

>>7123528
well if you hate it, then shikatanai, ne?

>>7123510
arms should be a tad shorter, like they should reach a quarter into the leg.

how many thousands of floating loomis heads have you grinded?

>>7123535
I've grinded it so much it's become pleasurable to me.

>>7123514
guys should I do it lol

>>7123544
yes

Super mediocre flockmod sketch for tonight.
"Shading" is mediocre pillow shading, the colors are like a toddler's crayon fueled puke, the face is just outright dogshit and botht he composition and lack of limbs is utterly pitiable.
I see how shit it is and being unable to fix it makes me feel horrible.
Its like seeing you fuck it up worse and worse and worse and be unable to stop or rather too stubborn too stop in hopes you somehow crawl out of the shitpile.

joewari da
BIDEN BLAST!

Portrait practice. Some anon once suggest that I should keep the form of the eye as a hard shape but I think learn a bad habit by doing that, how to avoid blocky and cartoony eyes.

>>7123401
He's correct you stiffened the pose too much

Most figure drawings itt lack the natural flow of the body. Everthing looks stiff.

>>7123573
Take any and show how it needs to be done :/

>>7123596
I don't know how.

Should I learn loomis before drawing furry and chibi?

>>7123196
I think Its looking pretty fair, but the butt if kinda off? hips area kinda looks weird I think.

My handwriting and drawing in general are very uncontrolable and chaotic. Is there a way to deal with it or use in some art style?

>>7123643
>Is there a way to deal with it
Yes

>>7123644
Oh boy, back to kindergarten with me.
Thanks

>>7123290
Krita. This is less an issue with the program (Krita can do really good colouring from what I've seen of artists who use it), but more to do with my lack of experience and prioritizing sketching at the moment over other aspects of drawing.

Mind you, my line art skills were way worse a few months back (looked super wonky and scribbly)...now it looks way neater with many imperfections.

>>7123688
legally distinct. :D
Looks like ass thout:/

>>7123688
sorry for (you ) I was just using the post for reply button
but it is related because I use krita , but I'm not sure if it helps you case,:D

>>7123524
>What are you struggling with specifically?
More or less just getting accurate shapes, especially with complicated ones like trees.
I did this
>>7123349
and for some reason I just couldn't get the shape down.

>
:/

movie study

>>7122816
not referenced
>>7122817
yup, tried to draw hands, but it looked very awkward
>>7122912
thanks anon, that's what i had envisioned

>>7123544
Of course. Improvement is pretty much guaranteed.
Good luck anon.

>>7123548
>flockmod mentioned
Which room? I draw there from time to time. (Consider joining our drawpile cult >>7064255 )
About your art: you already are pretty aware of specific things that you need to improve and that's great. You just need to turn those into actionable observations.

As always, KtD is the answer. Picrel is the very first thing the book teaches.

>>7123867
>>7123867
new

>>7123867

>>7122912
you made it worse

>>7123899
so do it better

>>7122912
You made it coomlier.