/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

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>>7114178
Gay shit for faggots

>>7114186
Might I recommend something more your speed

>>7114187
With you

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>>7114172
BOOBA ON MY FACE PLEASE

>>7114218
Highbrow as usual, /ic/

>>7114217
Honestly some of the best art of the second half of the 20th Century, Bernie Wrightson had the power of the masters.

>>7114217
when the grindr date forgot his car keys

virgil finlay.. pulp perfect & always goes crazy on the line effects

>>7114172
Everyone knows his paintings, but Frazetta's best work was with pen/brush and ink. I don't think anyone else comes close.

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>>7114617
Holy fuck, thank you for sharing these.

>>7114636
You're welcome, anon. Search "frazetta canaveral plates" for more. This was Frazetta in his prime.

>>7114660
Legit how do I achieve this skill?

>>7114958
You'll never guess!
>Ralph Mayo who took Ingels position as the art director. Mayo appreciated the style Frazetta had developed over the years he was quick to instruct Frazetta to get a firm grasp on human anatomy and provided Frazetta with a copy of ‘Constructive Anatomy’ by George Bridgman
>Frazetta went home that same evening and copied the book from cover to cover, twice!

>>7114958
If only I knew. He had tremendous drawing skills, plus great facility with the pen and brush. Nothing looks over-worked. The lines have an energy that conveys movement and action. Frazetta was doing funny comic strips and using ink from a young age (14 or so). He also learned to paint subjects realistically. I think these two sides of his training (comic exaggeration and straight realism) feed into one another. Look at Boris Vallejo's paintings of similar subjects (barbarians, etc.). They look like bodybuilders in costume posing for a photo. Everything is rendered exquisitely, but there is no movement, no sense of danger. A Frazetta painting feels alive. He knew where to render detail and where to keep things loose, suggestive or sometimes even totally abstract. You can see that in his inks as well. Look at how the lower part of the lion's body fades into a black shape that merges with the grass and extends down and around the figure. It's beautifully designed.

>>7114958
retarded zoomer

>>7114172
https://www.deviantart.com/getfreemazes

Someone else posted this when last we had this thread
Nicolas Delort

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>>7115746
Ehhy glad someone else enjoyed Nicolas too! His work is awesome

>>7115746
digital is cheating. the other artists have actual talent.

>>7114217
I've seen this before but man, it's absolutely wild that someone could make pen and ink look lines look painterly.
Fun fact, it looks like a woodcut print but it's actually pen and ink drawn to look like it.

>>7114186
That's what a low/int/ stylized illustrator who only makes 20k a year would say.

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>>7114614
I can do better than these when I'm sober.

>>7116462
t.nodraw

>>7116462
It's not digital. It's scratchboard.

>>7116462
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06pnBxH9oWg

>>7115746
too busy

>>7116554
That's alright man you can come back when you have more time.

>>7116462
It's honestly almost harder to get inks to look good in digital. People really undersell how much the tools themselves contribute to the look.

>>7116465
> pen
Nonononon, it's a brush. He was inspired by Franklin Booth, who himself used pen, and taught himself how to ink by studying engravings, thinking they were inks.

A brush being even more delicate to handle than a pen.

>>7114217
This is a lost art thanks to art materials like paper and ink dropping in quality but if you think you have what it takes, try a Hunt 100/103 pen point, very flexible and brush like.

>>7114470
more virgil appreciation

>>7116564
Yep. I picked up a brush pen and some dip pens and started doodling with them, and every line that came out of them was pure SOVL. Digital inks on the other hand suck. You just don't get the same kinesthetic feedback from a stylus as you do a physical mark making implement.

Keyman: The Hand Of Judgement's creator Warai Naku switched to digital at a point during the manga's run and there was a *very* sharp drop in quality as he was getting accustomed to them. His artwork returned to its original quality on the macro level but the actual linework and hatching at the micro scale never quite got back to the incredibly beautiful levels of meticulous detail that it had in the beginning of the manga. Although perhaps that was as much to save time and health as it was the fault of digital inks being less intuitive to use.

>>7116928
>ink brush
That's actually even cooler.
>taught himself how to ink by studying engravings, thinking they were inks
So like the "We purposely trained him wrong, as a joke" except it actually made him more powerful. Guy *successfully* emulated a subtractive medium with an additive one using the most difficult to control inking tool, what a gigachad.

>art editor: You can't draw fantasy, sci-fi, anime girls, superheroes, any of that nerd shit
>Toppi: No problem

>>7114217
Did he use a knife for the white lines?

>>7116484
It's not good to be drunk all the time, anon

>>7117625
pretty sure it's just left blank

>>7117625
See >>7116465 >>7116928

>>7116564
THIS. My ink looks shit digitally; shaky, inauthentic looking, bad line-weight... I could definitely improve with practice but traditional is just so much easier.

>>7117872
I know it's ink. Some artist's cut the paper to get white lines.

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>>7114172
dublicate reply

>>7114172
TITS

>>7114172
ASS

>>7114172
I really wish I had 4chin premium.

Frank Miller in his prime.

Joe Madureira and Tom McWeeney.

Here’s a dead horse in a ditch in the desert. I think its leg got caught in some roots. Great shadows in the midday sun.

>>7118703
Rock by the edge of a meadow with a few different species of trees

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>>7114636
He is amazing in black and white and I made a few copies of his work to study the techniques and was blown away with his details. Here’s a copy I did of his wizard and messed up the face unfortunately.

EXTREMELY high quality thread

Which pens should I buy so I can into this? All I have are regular old ballpoints.
Lefty btw if that matters

>>7119835
fineliners, dip pens, fountain pens, brush pens, rollerball, they all work

back to post rick griffin my beloved

>>7121306
typographical enrichment

>>7118692
Travis Charest belongs in this thread.

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>>7121310
Damn, that's good!

>>7121320
Shame we never got an artist's edition of this stuff, or even just a black and white book. I do like the colors a lot but I wish I could see this art in its purest form.

Jim Lee

Kentaro Miura

Frank Cho
1/4

2/4

3/4

4/4

>>7122273
Coomer Jungle shit
>>7122275
Capeshit of shit
>>7122278
Coomer generic shit
>>7122280
Coomer mexican shit

>>7122691
This thread is for posting art, not dumping your shitty opinions.

>>7123487
Man, I need to read some Dredd
It inhabits a magical space

>>7122691
THERE'S A SKULL A DRAGON A HOT CHICK IT'S GOOD ANON TF IS WRONG WITH U

t. 13

>>7122278
this dude's book is such worthless shit it's insane

>>7126254
oof that fish bowl
also not two tone

>>7126254
Ngl I thought this was digital.
Good stuff

>>7124064
this but unironically

Roy G Krenkel

So what are our thoughts on digital vs traditional inking? My initial thoughts on looking at these images are that obviously traditional is the superior medium, and that digital is just convenient for me and what I do.
That said, I do think it's possible to make digital look really good on its own. I believe studying traditional artists should really serve as a guide for digital artists. So instead of trying to emulate their methods or practices one-to-one, we should apply their knowledge to our medium in a way that is uniquely digital - enhancing the digital look - without sacrificing quality.

Pic related is from @henazin on Twitter.

Something I should also mention for digital artists. I think the quote: "Comparison is the thief of joy" really applies here. I may never develop inking skills as incredible as Frank Booth for instance because of my choice of medium, but I can get good enough to be better than the average weeb artist that lazily distances themself from lineart because it's "boring."

>>7126293
Fuck, you're right

>>7127080
Digital is an analog, it makes you feel that it looks closer to traditional than it really does. I can tell immediately if something was inked digitally, only exception was Jason Pearson that did digital inks (and used 3D models for a car) in one of his books, I couldn't tell at all.

>>7114172

We live in the digital age. It takes the same amount of time to color something as to hatch it. Stop making excuses. Arguably hatching actually takes more time than blending.

>>7128277
it takes a long time to color properly. the problem is its automated and takes little to no skill to let the program make all the decisions on your gradient auto fill digital sludge these days. almost all colored art looks like dogshit because its so half assed and easily done. majority of "professionals" have no clue how actual light sources work, how light reflects, how the color of the room can affect the mood and coloring of every object in it and so on. they dont even consider it when doing any work. light it up in blender, move it around until they get something generic they recognize and then add the colors to the greyscale objects they just made. its retarded seeing how bad every fucking piec eof shit looks.

its not a comic book thread, but modern digital colorists have destroyed that industry moreso than any other group. the older generation were actual artists that just did coloring for work. modern ones are below minimum wage outsourced to brazil, but all fucking trash. get it done as fast as possible type of shit. actively destroy the art they color at every turn. just add lens flares and other digital shit on top and done. its rather infuriating to see. theyd sell more comics if they just did black and white versions. you can see quick comparisons when they do updated old covers for reprints. stuf flike amazing fantasy 15 for spiderman first appearance redone in digital coloring etc. looks hideous in comparison.

>>7128277
>it takes as much if not longer to hatch than color
>stop making excuses
Then what’s the supposed ‘excuse’? Maybe it’s a preference.

>>7128277
Color can make things look worse.
I prefer them colorless.

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>>7114964
It was a trick question, wasn't it?

>>7118952
amazing work

>>7128277
Yeah, good thing I can do both.

My appreciation for inked art has gone up so much since I have been going to Heritage Auctions. So much original inked comic, fantasy and sci-fi art on there, so much good stuff.

>>7134593
same here, heritage is the shit. my friend is one of their online catalogers and i’m forever envious when i see the things coming in

The first Sam and Max comics had wonderful monochrome art with gags in the background of a lot of panels. Unfortunately, I can't find pictures of pages online so you will have to take my world for it.
>>7122098
Witch Hat Atelier is another fantasy manga that has beautiful art. Hopefully this one has it's story finished before the mangaka dies.

>>7114187
kek

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>>7114617
Frazetta's inks are so good. I wish he drew more cool knights and shit instead of just half naked barbarians and bimbos.

>>7143179
Also someone needs to release a book with with his ink work (that doesn't cost an arm and a leg).

>>7114172
>How do I achieve the mythical good ink-and-pen artist status?
Definitely by taking some magic pill. You don't need to practice ink and pen for years at all.

Bampu

I wish I can draw in this B&W style, it's mind boggling why it seems harder to do it this way compared to full color painting. I can paint presentably just fine but in B&W I can't make the values work to a passable level.

>>7145556
>I can paint presentably just fine but in B&W I can't make the values work to a passable level.
big X to doubt

>>7145556
Black and white shows the flaws of your work in the most stark fashion. Color can hide and obscure, but black and white can only reveal.

Made as a portfolio piece to demonstrate that I could make typesetter friendly paperback book interior illustrations. I did a color female dragon in a kimono,but red and gold,subtlety revealing that she isca geisha.

>>7145661
garbage advice and slop picrel
>big place small guy, so cool! so dramatic!
i really hope this stuff is not impressive to you, otherwise you're lost in the water

Is there any info about Frazetta's inking process?

>>7146802
The process is using a brush with diluted ink.

>>7146357
I hope you continue to improve rather than posting here.