/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

If I die having painted a painting like this, I'll die peacefully. I'll give up my lifespan if I drew even a single painting like this and then immediately keeled over.

>>7113813
buy paint. go outside. look at the world. mix paint to match the colors of the world, put colors onto your canvas in the same relative place as you see them in the world. you will suck, then you try 5000 more times, with each analysis your mistakes, asking others what is off if you can't tell yourself.

>>7113844
Surely oldies didn't do this approach? There must've been some more efficient means than reinventing the wheel 10000 times

>>7113850
Bierstadt was mostly self taught apparently(starting with crayon), but he did study under Emanuel Leutze at one point. Your best option is to get a mentorship, many painters offer online courses for this sort of painting.
(just random google links, do your own searching)
https://thelandscapeatelier.com/
https://www.mastrius.com/choose-your-master-artist/

>>7113868
*oh shit, actual master here
https://www.mastrius.com/product/bring-life-to-clothed-figure-painting-tca0128engp/
this guy is legit

>>7113850
NTA, but Bierstadt (the image in OP) did this. He went on expeditions with his painting box, did huge paintings with his sketches and had really big shows and dramatic painting reveals because no one saw the lands he painted.

I think the knowledge is mostly preserved, look at St. Petersburg academy, it's the same program since over 200 years. Problem is we have a lot more distractions. The hours those people clocked in focused painting and drawing is hard to match and you will have actice discouragement in today's world (modern art retards will crab you everytime they see you paint). One other factos is I think media deprivation. To see exiting shit, they couldn't just go on the internet and most people didn't even had access to prints or art exhibitions. To see nice shit you had to draw it.

youre not going to do it so it doesnt matter

if youre serious then you can start with colliers painting manual but no one here cares about classical knowledge anymore. if you really wanted to actually know how to paint like them youd autistically search for old information like me, everyone that cared about this shit left already

>>7113813
>>7113820
if you actually felt this way you would've tried shit on your own already and done some of your own research
prove me wrong

>>7113813
It's too late for you, we learn the best when we're young and that's why we're put into indoctrination camps where we learn nothing but how to be a slave. The masters already spent 10 years practicing when they reached the age of 21, just give up. You will never make it.

>>7114009
I have. I'm currently doing the Russian course from NMA. I'll post a work tomorrow. But when I searched online, some said Ateliers teach you that, while others say to not atelierfag on 4chinz. So I'm confused.

>>7113820
If you get good enough to paint like that you'll have found another level beyond you've yet to reach that you'll be bargaining for a few extra years of life to reach.

>>7113813
Get a (good) teacher, that's the most efficient approach.

If you've got cash and are in the US, I think Watts is one of the rare guy out there who has a really good understanding of the field. Ateliers are more random and narrowed focus. They can teach you good stuff, but you'll have to fill the gaps.

If you can't, then master studies and intense, thoughtful practice.

>>7113850
look up what jonathan hardesty did

>>7113813
find a current day master and ask to become an apprentice, there is no other way to do this without having one in million talent

>>7114455
>there is no other way to do this without having one in million talent
You can get quite far with the Internet, wit and discipline. On the other hand, even with a master, lack of creativity, wit or discipline will severely hinder you.

A master simply makes things faster.

>>7114469
>You can get quite far with the Internet, wit and discipline
not as far as op wants

>>7114489
Like the Count of Monte Cristo, I too, have money, time, and the will to go through with it. The only thing that will stop me is death.

>>7114714
then you can surely as a modern day master for apprenticeship right?

>>7114714
if you had all that, you wouldn't need /ic/, you'd just find a painter and get him to teach you, larper

>>7115067
I actually am ready to do that. I know Steven Zapata does apprenticeships. But who else is there? Any suggestions?

>>7115098
I'll do it for $400