/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>7111986
this op is so good, i hope the comic anon makes another installment of IC Higschool Art Club :D

I won’t contribute to this thread, either.

>>7111997
stfu faggot i love you
*sucks your dick*
There, now are you happy? post those dang ol drawings in the dang ol thread right now or im gonna have to pull an ol' yeller on ya

If you haven’t drawn at least 10,000 boxes, I will personally come to your house and fuck your mother

>>7112001
I deleted them and I haven’t drawn in 6 months and I won’t draw ever again. Also you’re a disgusting faggot.

if you draw nothing but boxes, you are clinically insane

>>7112006
That's quitter talk anon. You can still be a winner as long as you keep drawing, the moment you quit is when you immediately become a loser and fall into despair.

BOOM

First drawing of the thread. Kneel to my immense artistic power. Even though I couldn’t get the cone quite right

I can't I can't I can't stand doing lineart
Ist es over fur mich?
Nobody cares about your art if it's not inked

>>7112010
thats a comfy pyramid. but where can we see your sexy women drawings anon???? :(

>>7112011
learn to paint then

>>7112008
at least use your boxes to draw figures

>>7112012
>>7112018
BOOM.

>>7112023
KEK

Top notch OP image again

Any tips on rendering curly/wavy hair? Whenever I try to use hatching it becomes a mess.

>>7112023
Here is my figure

I'm not sure how the torso should look here, can I get some help?

postit doodle

>>7112009
Definitely a faggot. Jesus will make sure you burn in hell.

week 2 of everything i draw being worse than the last thing, got to the point where i can barely open a sketchbook/krita and when i do i don't even want to try

>>7112082
If you want to draw stuff you won't hate, try the easy bargue plates.

I tried drawing shapes in perspective rotating only to realize I couldn't so I've been using blender shapes as reference and been trying to recreate it

>>7112087
i'll give it a shot thanks, i already have some books i'm using though, i think it's just boredom with copying refs in general + being ill combining to put me in a shit mood for creativity

Okay wow not gonna draw the ugly ones for real this time, the blockhead face gave me psychic damage.

>>7112082
But you do try, anon, and if the last thread is anything to go by, that literally, instantly makes you better than 80% of the people here. Keep it up!

If I may offer one piece of advice, it would be to focus on one "thing" per study session. Be it figures, abstract shapes, a specific body part, whatever. Don't just drift aimlessly. Do a few in a row with the same focus, really pay attention to what you're looking at, and then try to draw whatever you studied from imagination. Just once if you like. It should help deepen your understanding Good luck.

How much time a day should in spending drawing?
I will LITERALLY apply myself and do the exact minimum you tell me to, i just need to know what's the number.
4? 6?

>>7112126
25

>>7112095
Does it show you the perspective grid? If so I would draw that too so you can get more of a feel for how different angles can be created by different grids and where the VPs and horizons are.

>>7112027
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0Qh4Cu5ecM&t
Try this
>>7112126
until you learn something

>>7112128
That's more than there's in a day.
I won't take responses higher than 15 under consideration because it's just insane

>>7112134
Minimum 1
15 if you can really do it.

>>7112138
How did you get so good wtf.
>>7112136
Can i settle for 3? That seems doable.

>>7112134
Your question was kind of insane. How much time you "should" spend drawing is how much time you want and can afford to spend drawing. Unless you have a specific goal in mind, which you didn't share with us. Furthermore, there's more to it than just time spent. An hour of smart practice can have better results than 6 hours of ingraining bad habits.

>>7111986
Whoever makes these OP pics, please never stop.

>>7112138
>>7112139
>is off like 50%
>good

>>7112126
evriything takes time but it not about of hours/ You need to do stuff and it need to produce desired change. not spend hours.

>>7112138
>actually copying Loomis
Respect.

I wish I had my tablet so I could give feedback easier but point #1, this line should connect, or at least line up, since the upper lip is all one form. I think you got thrown off by the weird way he shaded it. Point #2, don't forget this deep, rounded bit at the corner of the mouth. It's very important for a charming result!

>>7112126
Start with 2 per day, then increase to 3 per day next month, then 4, etc.
What is your studying plan?
Mine:
1 hour watching Vilppu's course, drawing along and doing exercise
30 mins watching Olson's perspective course, drawing along
30 - 45 mins copying from real life
30 mins practice shading
1 - 2 hours copying artists that I like, drawing for fun.
I only draw for 1 hour on Wesnesday and Sunday. It's very important to take break.

Jesus died for you. Draw something from the bible instead of coom. Draw epic stories. The AI demon controlls coom now so depart from that degeneracy and accept SOVL.

Still confused btw

>>7112156
>What is your studying plan?
None.
I have the entire Vilpp course pirated but i'm too much of a beg for that.
I'll try to get through Loomis figure book but idk either. Probably some manga-copying afterwards.
I currently draw 0 hours a day

>>7112159
I only started drawing because I want to make a manga I'm gonna be honest

>>7112141
My goal is to get good at drawing humans. As for the time i just need a hardset amount of tine to plan around

>>7111668
>Looking at the lines really closely and drawing them to the best of your ability on a separate paper
Thanks anon, I decided to copy some panels this way.

Anyone have any advice? I think things got a little out of line on the right side of the page.

>>7112172
nice! you can also try memory drawings to help internalize certain designs/proportions/etc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xj0lSGVgH3w

It's still a work in progress, I need to finish the background, but I'll take any advice I can get. This is only a hobby for me.

I give my drawings to my family if I think they're good, or I throw them out, this is actually going to be a card for my little sister.

>>7111915
>>7111999
There is no cliffhanger intended for >>7111910, I meant to show as an end that even he joins the drama out of frustrating and so all hope is lost for art discussion

cat grl wip

I just had a thought (inspired by >>7112159). Let's say that I am going to make religious art and also do naked figure drawings. It would look pretty stupid to post the two on one website, like 1% of people may understand that it's a non-sexual appreciation, the 99% of people would think you're hypocritical or wrong or stg, despite the fact that probably all artists, even religious ones also draw naked figures.

>>7112138

>>7112168
How about starting today with 30 mins per day for a month? It will help you build up drawing habbit.
Start with something easy like small animals, and move to harder subjectss like cars, people when you are ready.

>>7112009
I don't wanna be a loser :(
But I also don't know if I wanna continue drawing though

Copied one of the heads of “how to draw comics the marvel way”

>>7112261
Looks good! Next time, try drawing it at a larger scale. Like 5x or 10x the size of that one.
>>7112220
We got the bad ending.

I redid the face, is this an improvement?

Did a Falin portrait from reference.

what does it mean when the art looks like it was from someone who doesn’t like art

>>7112211
Maybe this is partly due to the quality of the photo, but your lineart is barely noticeable in the colored areas, which in turn makes most of the flowers (especially the roses) appear quite blurry.

Once you fill up the rest of the piece, you should delineate the whole drawing with a thin black sharpie (alternatively, you could also use dark color markers or pens).

how do you keep from selecting the wrong thing in procreate

>>7112314

Thank you, I'll definitely do that. I'll post the finished piece when it's done.

Working through Bridgman.These two turned out ok, and then things quickly went downhill today. I'm struggling with getting the size of things right before I draw.

>>7112335
those are not very good copies imo.

Draw the newest meme outfit.

>>7112357

>
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>>7112372
Sexy AF I love the coloring it's a nice skin tone and palette

>>7112372
She has loop-sized boobs. The left-handed one is a little higher than the one in the right.

>>7112379
kind of like this I guess :D

>>7112390
Based

>>7112390
Yup.

>>7112168
The Vilppu course is easier to understand than Loomis though
>>7112301
2 has cuter proportions

>>7112301
You don't have to draw every individual eyelash.
>>7112338
I don't know what's going on but it's cute.
>>7112416
She is precious. I want to eat her like Ozzy Osbourne ate that bat.

Shitty self indulgent doodle for tonight.
I feel like this one isn't too bad.

>>7112085
moar

Made a self portrait, any crits?

>>7112335
You're gonna have the best bang for buck from bridgeman if you worked through perspective and know and can work with box forms really well

What the fuck I just miss?

>>7112484
Ref

>>7112463
>this person will tell you to copy Bridgman x 2

>>7112484
look at the torso box, the lines aren't converging at all

>>7112484
You used construction, you fell for and you drew a bad figure, happens to the best of us, don't use construction next time

>>7112463
dick too small.

>the construction bad mongoloid is STILL shitposting
Sad!

How the fuck do you construct this?

>>7112390
How is she doing that

>>7112574
>Shitty constructed drawings are STILL being posted
Lol I have literally an endless supply of evidence against construction, more and more people are agreeing with me because there's just too much shitty constructed drawings being posted constantly

When does the line between copying and referencing end?

>>7112590
That's so cool man! Do you draw?

>>7112590
I'd tell you to pyw but I've already seen your shitty anime scribbles multiple times so I'm just gonna laugh at you instead
LOL
LMAO

What does it look like to you?

I still haven’t drawn and you’ll never make me.

>>7112636
we know. but can you at least stop spamming threads about it?

Hello! Do you have some advice for my rendering?

>>7112611
A car.

Is this a PC-98 program? I really like the style.

>>7112641
No.

>>7112642
Your problem is not rendering.

>>7112653
What is it?

>>7112654
Drawing anything but a frontal facing head probably.

>>7112046
sticky notes are honestly a great way to get drawing quickly. its easier than drawing on a big sheet despite the doodles being the same size (and its fun to stick them on my desktop)

>>7112636
I still don't know if I should even try drawing

>>7112669
You shouldn't. What you should do is leave here and never come back.

>>7112657
>:(

>>7112671
I'm trying but I can't :(
I'm not the only one who feels confused on whenever drawing is right for them, right?

>>7112678
I'm telling you straight now - if you're "confused," it's not for you. If it was for you, you would've just been drawing.

>>7112671
It's the same troll that's been here for literal months, just ignore, you're inflating the thread.

>>7112681
>you're inflating the thread
Good, that's my fetish.

>>7112659
They're horrible to save.

>>7112425
How much cuter?
>>7112440
Her official art has more detailed eyelashes which I wanted to emulate

>>7112682
I bet you’re in support of our representatives and politicians devaluing the dollar through INFLATION too, Anon.

>>7112680
But I don't wanna quit though, I wanna see through it.

>>7112606
Fact: no one who has ever argued with me posted their work

>>7112688
Oh god YES. Tell me how much more groceries cost now. I’m gooning so hard.

>>7112691
I posted my work, so fuck you, nigger.

>>7112691
Why would they?
You're a clown, preaching shit while clearly not knowing what you're even doing, why would anybody take you serious?

>>7112695
where?

>>7112704
see >>7112463

>>7112705
construction fags, this is what you're bringing? lol, the stack of evidence is getting taller
I think this is some kind of humiliation ritual for you guys

>>7112710
Post your shizo anticonstruction mood board.

>>7112691
this you?

>>7112685
thats true lol. i always try scanning them before they shred themselves apart

I did this a few days ago
it's a request for a drawthread

>>7112724
The cleaveage "Y" bugs me.

My current rendering strategy is to totally spam the watercolor brush. I feel this may be developing a bad habit, but I have a very hard time being intentional about my strokes when there's so much work to do... any suggestions?

>>7112737
You are penciling in the features. Look at your model again. Their eyes are not outlined like a cartoon. I would suggest stepping back from figure drawing and doing grayscale studies, in pencil (or digital) of simple objects like fruits, vases, boxes, etc.

>>7112737

>>7112724
When are you going to draw something that's not cowtits

>>7112724
You know, on any other board you'd be given thumbs up, some praise, and even some helpful critique. And the pre/beg/ Loomis/Bridgeman chickenscratch copies with no sense of form or proportion would be ignored, maybe given some advice. But it's the inverse here. This gets nitpicked while Pawell-tier work is positively received, much of the time from other permanent studyfags.

>>7112737
Boil your values/color down to like a few. Look for big shapes to make. And dont paint on white. Here's some exersises for inspiration https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnK-rqKFmUY

>>7112724
Goddamn great. I feel like your anatomy has become a lot more organic since I started posting here a year ago.
Tits look fat and heavy, deform well.
Nice job. Stealing it for reference.
Do you only visit the /v/ drawthreads?

>>7112748
Because everyone knows pawell is a lost cause and trying to give him advice is fruitless.

>>7112753
The post was not about Pawell. It referred to Pawell-tier artwork.

I think its pretty alright for a beginner.

>>7112740
>>7112743
>>7112748
Thanks anons. I'll come back with something in grayscale / monotone.

>>7112723
this looks like ancient manuscript
unironically kino as fuck

>>7112751
thanks bro
I just post here and occasionally do some requests from the v drawthread

Bro I feel like crying. I'm trying my best, I really am. But fuck, I don't think I can do this.
I tried Keys again, but I can't draw my hand no matter what. I'm even struggling with Robertson I think. I knew it wouldn't be easy, but this feels impossible
I don't know what to do.

>>7112778
post your hand, anon. how long did it take you?

>>7112781
What are you going to say to him if he posts a photo of a brown or black hand?

>>7111986
Copied another Shinobu panel

>>7112796
...nothing different than if he posted a photo of a white or asian hand?

>>7112781
Anon I said I couldn't draw it no matter what

>>7112540
>>7112574
>>7112590
>>7112606
I just wanted a critique :^(

>>7112504
Figure out the perspective is hard to me.

>>7112802
Then you're an outlier on this website. Remember this.

>>7112811
touch grass

>>7112812
You are an outlier.

How do I get better at drawing? I can't ever bring myself to try drawing because all the methods look too complicated, complex and exhausting to learn. I don't know what else to do.

>>7112830
I'm giving myself an aneurysm trying to learn and this what you're fucking arguing about

left is old drawing right is new
>>7112724
I always enjoy your drawings anon
some airbrush for the blush would be nice too

>>7112419
as promised here you go
but man yesterday sucked and I still feel like shit from yesterday as well. Everything fucking sucked. I had a good day as well, I drew and I felt fine, but the main issue was that I was trying to program a game. But this game was too hard to code so I didn't know what to do and burnt out and played dead space out of frustration. But less talking more drawing here you go

>>7112867
Phonefag? Apparently phones rotate pictures for no reason. I usually e-mail the picture to myself and post from PC

>>7112867
You'd be better off tossing that shitty Keys book in the trash, all it's gonna do is drain your will.

>>7112872
it didn't drain my will what did was the fucking godot engine haha, I was trying to code a game right and I just couldn't for some reason I just stood there in confusion.
>>7112870
Yeah I use a phone but I have a PC but I just don't use it because it's mainly for work and stuff

>>7112876
>it didn't drain my will
Yet

>>7112880
I hope it doesn't it taught me a lot especially with drawing

https://www.supercartoons.net/cartoon/hyde-and-hare/

>>7112796
>>7112811
>>7112830
i love the stench of a r*ddit NIGGER in the evening
what a NIGGER am I rite my fellow 4chinners

>>7112888
Bugs is off-model but whatevs

>>7112884
It teaches jackshit except the most effective way to get an aneurysm

>>7112892
>filtered by the most retard-proof book on the market

>>7112890
What the fuck are you on about?

>>7112892
it's literally recommended in the sticky I can't tell if you're baiting or not

>>7112902
The sticky is bullshit.

>>7112902
>Hmm am I being baited?
t. guy that got baited

>>7112907
>baited

>>7112907
No I'm speaking from the heart, that fucking book hasn't helped me at all. The only thing it's done is convince me that this all worthless and I should quit

I've also gotten filtered by Keys but moreso by my inability to keep up a routine rather than a solid skill block.

None of the rules for copying in it helped me at all though. They just made the process infinitely harser

I don't understand gesture drawing. I've been practicing for hours and days, but the energy and limbs in my drawings look weird. There's something wrong with my work, but I can't figure it out.

A teacher was supposed to help me today, but he couldn't make it to my house so I'm just watching tutorials

>>7112946
>the process
describe the process in detail

>>7112959
It takes time and it gets easier as there's only a limited number of poses and angles thr body can make. You'll start seeing the same things over and over. You will get it if you put the hours in.

>>7111986
Working on an album cover for a friend and would like thoughts. It’s supposed to be a trippy vibe. I’m feeling ambivalence towards the coconut tree because I really don’t like how flat it is but the shapes are so expressive. Plus, maybe flatness may be better in this case? I don’t really know, but I’d appreciate some thoughts on how it looks so far

>>7112835
all the methods are complicated, complex, and exhausting to learn
it's probably not the hobby for you

>>7112998
You could add some depth by coloring the receding fronds darker or lighter than those closest to the viewer.

>>7112835
if the methods look too complicated, try to break them down into bite-sized chunks

>>7112946
>my inability to keep up a routine
Yeah, same for me. I seriously don't understand how you guys do it. I may manage to keep it up for a while, then skip a day for some reason, then it turns into two days, three, a week, a month, a year.

>>7112960
Kegs tells you to
>Draw the outline first
>Fill in the biggest shapes
>Look for shapes within the shapes
>Look for intersecting points or areas where the lenght of one part can be roughly estimated by the other
Vs my "method" which is just
>Copy lines until they turn into a drawing

I realize that the method described in Keys is the right one but i could not fet the hang of it and ended up with results much worse than my bruteforce attempts.

>get to a new bridgman chapter
>realise i have no idea what i'm doing
>find proko's "how to study bridgman"
>bridgman isn't for beginners
>that'd be a complete waste of time
i got fucking meme'd

Any critique before I go render?

>>7113053
too fridge like

>>7113053
breast tissue doesn't connect to the collarbone, right upper arm is way too short

>>7112897
>DUDE JUST DRAW ONE OF THE HARDEST THINGS TO DRAW AS YOUR SECOND LEASON
Sure anon, I'm the retard here

How much drawing should I do before I try to make my own characters?

>>7113073
character design isn't really a drawing skill

>>7113072
still waiting on you to post your hand

>>7113073
You people come up with the most insane questions, I love it.

>>7112030
Boxy Brown IN THE CARDBOARD

>>7113059
I appreciate the criticism, I didn't even notice how the breast did not connect to the collarbone. I suck ass at foreshortening so the right arm still looks wonky.

>>7113080
Fine here my shitty fucking hand, told ya a trillion times I couldn't fucking do it

>>7113072
Did it tell you to draw it perfectly, you absolute fucking baboon?

>>7113089
>I didn't even notice how the breast did not connect to the collarbone
for what it's worth I mean it looks like it does here, that's fine on her left arm since it's fully raised but on her right side it just kinda looks like it starts too high up
i ignored that it was anime before though, if you're not going for realism it actually doesn't matter at all anyway

Not feeling this one, aka its garbage
One of those days I suppose

>>7112372
>>7112390
we need more of lysithea being a cock slut.

>>7113099
>Literally tells you do it again if it looks like shit
So yes, yes it fucking does

>>7113077
Surely it requires some sort of understanding of art, no?
>>7113083
I tried to make my own character and it looked like shit and nothing like how I imagined him

>>7113080
nta
I'm left handed but I decided to post a pic of my right hand

>>7113114
It *literally* just tells you to make it look like a hand. If you took away from that, that you have to make it perfect, you're even more retarded than previously anticipated.
Guess no such thing as retardproof with you around.

>>7113120
also decided to take a break today I drew a little bit but I'm just stressed right now I'm probably gonna go swim for 1 hour and go to bed

>>7113053
Like this probably.

>>7113093
Don't stress brother, this is what learning art looks like. The big thing KtD teaches is observation, which is an incredibly important skill not just for drawing, but IMPROVING at drawing.

The hand you drew looks completely wrong (no worries), so hold up your hand in the same position and compare the two. Try to discern WHY it looks wrong, which lines you put in the wrong places, which parts you drew too wide or two thin, and then draw it again. That one will probably look bad too, but if it looks even a little bit better that's a good sign. Good luck.

>>7113120
IS THAT A FUCKING COKE NAIL HAHA YOURE GMI

>>7113124
>If it looks a lot like a hand...you have missed the conflict-the seeing vs. the knowing-and should try it again
Yep thats sure what you said

just slurped a fat cock

Why should I bother drawing knowing that I will never improve and that if I wanted generic anime grill slop #38572948 I would just prompt it?
Is everyone in here still stuck in 2019?

>>7113143
it's fun
there's the only (you) you deserve, fuck off and rope now

I was on bus so it tried this one on phone
Any feedback?

>>7113159
the features are too big, try doing some internal measurements against the outer contour
for example the left-right plane change on the ref's brow is at ~1/2 the total width of the head
silhouette seems ok

>>7112888
https://www.kevinmccorrytv.ca/hyde2.html

>>7113173
>Warren Foster (24 October 1904 - 13 December 1971) was an American screenwriter. He worked under the units of Robert Clampett, Frank Tashlin, Robert McKimson, and Friz Freleng, in chronological order. Friz Freleng has apparently said that Foster was the best story man he had ever worked with.
https://looneytunes.fandom.com/wiki/Warren_Foster

>>7113112
kill yourself

>>7113212
No . And I'll do it again too <3

>>7113145
It's not fun when the end result is dogshit though.

>>7113116
Let's see him. Tell us what parts you're disappointed about.

>>7112847
that's not how right hands work, anon
try to strike the same pose, look at your hand

>>7113127
Trust me, I've held my hand in the position so many times. And everytime I try to draw it it ends up looking like that. WhennI try and make it look more accurate I end up fucking it up even more.
I'm sorry but this book is probably going to be of no help for me.

>make decent looking sketch
>proceed to lineart
>looks like shit
what do?

>>7113051
tried the first 1 + 1/10th hand drawings before realising i shouldn't be studying hand anatomy at all yet
the poses just... idk, they're so fucking bad today they're back to the same level i was at before i even started learning to draw, my new plan from tomorrow is to try doing a handful of hampton gestures at most without timing myself, rather than trying to do 10-20x 60/90s gestures and hoping i pick up on good habits along the way

>>7113171
Thanks, i realized that lips and nose especially are big and that's a flaw i do in every attempt
Now for the measurements i'll try even if does sound bit complicated to me

>fucked the proportions but kept going
what percent of a prebeglet's drawing time should be dedicated to copying a reference? And what percents should be dedicated to other things?

>>7113277
Stop detailing your sketches. That's not what it is for.

If you've already made a nice sketch and want to finish it, use it as reference while you redo it from scratch with proper steps of construction, linework, shading, and color.

>>7113286
>what percent of a prebeglet's drawing time should be dedicated to copying a reference?
100%

>>7113286
Based dbz drawer
Nothin much i can give thoughts other than just saying i today saw the dragon ball visual history book in my library. Maybe will buy and share

>>7113112
she was nospecific cat in my head :]
why cock is brown, looks like poop :/

>>7113298
sorry i dont draw black people enough :)

>>7113275
Why does it end up like that every time? Why aren't you correcting it? It's not something that "happens," it's something you "do."

crit?

>>7113305
Temples look too short. They're supposed to be as long at the face is wide.

Why is this fucking Igor sketch exercise so fucking hard I hate this ugly piece of shit

Something is wrong with middle ones face and I can't really figure it out

>>7113275
Try to introspect. How long do you take for the drawing? Do you focus on every single contour/wrinkle, or just the general lines?

>>7113316
cause you're training something that normally you haven't touched before. Though I do agree he looks rather... eh.

>>7113330
Might be the right eye. Seems too far away from the nose. cute girls though.

>>7113330

>>7113331
I think I'm being too impatient maybe
Cause when I draw anime shit I can seem to be better and notice mistakes and fix them easily

Proportions are wrong and values too light

>>7113298
the cute loli and wife from fire emblem three houses

It takes forever just to draw a decent cube
am I doing this right?
I can't quite wrap my head around shapes yet

>>7112959
The way it’s described in the FORCE books somehow helped me a lot.

>>7113330
its dangerous to go alone anon, take this

>>7113330
its anime. its supposed to look janky

>
ok I gave up :D

Thoughts

>>7113364
would

>>7113053

>>7113378
penis

>>7113376
I prefer liqufied athletic over tryhrd fatass.
not author btw :]

>>7113376
not critique

>>7113376
good crit

>>7113301
I told you, everytime I try to draw it accurately it ends up even more fucked up.
I'm pretty sure this is literally the best I can do.
>>7113331
Okay admittedly I do take less time then what the book recommends. I also don't focus on the wrinkles and stuff but thats mostly because I wanna do more stylised, anime/cartoon stuff. I'm guessing it's bleeding in to this even though the book expects realism.

>>7113354
>>7113350
>>7113331

tried to fix it. Not super happy but I'll continue tomorrow

>>7113420
the wrist's lateral range of motion is very limited
in your picture it appears broken

>>7113429
Not that anon but I can bend mine that far… doesn’t feel natural though.

>>7113408
>Gets book on how to draw
>"Here is how to draw, step by step"
>"Erm, I wanna draw anime instead!"
>"Wtf it looks like shit, the book doesn't work!"

>>7113429
least midwitted pseud nonadvice on /ic/

>>7113420
Looks a lot better! In addition to the wrist issue, the girl on the left's crotch (and bellybutton) is too high, the redliner misled you, you would not be able to see her vulva from this angle. Also the beer can tangents with her shoulder. I thought she was an amputee with a fucked up prosthetic at first.

>>7113439
lmao the amputee thing bothered me so bad I had to get out of bed to fix it.

>>7113408
>the book expects realism.
Anon, to get good at anime, you have to be good at realism
Anime is a parody of realism

The book isn't teaching you how to draw anime, it's teaching you to draw everything

>>7112724
do you draw ntr? like your work anon

>>7113444
Looks great! You can sleep easy now lol.

After seeing some photos from Shota Ashida and Makoto Shinkai I wanted to give it a try, learned tons about color correction, color spaces and digital compositing. For the amount of hate GIMP gets, I'm impressed by how powerful it can be.

ATTENTION ALL SOCIAL REJECTS, LOSERS, UNMOTIVATED FAILURES!

Big HAPPENING!

I am PROUDLY announcing PermaBEG magazine!!

>What is this?
I would like to make a small magazine of /beg/ and /int/ artworks from the anons that post here, because I like this format and I want to try it out.
It is an obvious copy of the idea of WEIRDO magazine from the great R Crumb. Post your work that you wish to be included.

Do NOT post the work here, post it in the PermaBEG thread: >>7113450 >>7113450 >>7113450

>when is it going to be finished
Likely never if the jenny puts my posts regarding this in /r/. But if not, then I would take time to receive a good enough amount of work then take little time and some creativity to stitch it together. so up too your contributions


"PermaBEG: the art exhibition where only the losers can make it"

Can I get good at drawing if I "Just draw"?
Theory bores me and makes me lose the motivation to draw.

>>7113376
Amazing work anon, also do you have any advice on drawing the clavicle area? Mainly on proportions on the muscles and clavicle.

>>7113475
you'll prolly improve, but maybe not as much as you would had you did some studies here and there
t. did the same thing on and off for 3-4 years and only started taking shit seriously last month

>>7113475
Everything in drawing is downstream from observation, if you know how to observe you'll be able to intuit everything else just by doing it enough.

>>7113475
To some extent yes but you will stagnate eventually and might get frustrated if your drawings don’t turn out how you imagined and the only way past that is to study. If you never experience that frustration then you’ll be high begkino and can do what you want. There are a lot of popular artists like that who have sovl so it doesn’t matter that their skills suck. But studying is actually really fun if you’re at the point where you can learn something from it and see your art improve based on what you learned. So you might change your mind in the future.

>>7113434
>>7113445
I fucking know that, did I say I expected me to teach that shit? No, I'm saying I keep drawing stylized because when I try to draw realistic I keep fucking up.
Maybe if you actually gave me advice to fix that I'd fucking improve.

Remember: we are ALL going to make it.

>>7113510
Lmao whatever you say, apparently I'm too retarded for this shit. Guess I'll just be a talentless hack for the rest of my fucking life

>>7113502
The advice IS to fix it. Look at your hand and look at your drawing. Whatever you're doing wrong that makes your drawing look different from your real hand, do it not wrong. Correct the angles of the lines and the distances between them. You do this by looking closely and drawing thoughtfully, and actually measuring things if/when you need to. That's as much as anyone here or anywhere else will be able to hold your hand. There's no special trick to it, no secret technique that we're all conspiring to hide from you, you're just unskilled, you're not drawing carefully enough, and that's why you're practicing in the first place.

At a certain point, you have to just pet the dog, anon.

>>7113515
Haha nope, I'm too retarded remember? Guess I'll just quit.
And I'll advise everyone wanting to start to do so too. It's all fucking worthless.

/beg/ + /int/ = /bent/

>>7113519
This is devastating news, but I will find a way to live.

>>7113510
>the pizzatower pepperman in 1C
peak

>>7113475
repost cus retarded but if you just draw and by drawing copying what you see yah but I don't wanna do that I wanna draw big booty cow latinas with hot anime milkies and draw scary shit as well

so it depends how u wanna draw if u wanna everything just so observation like I said I wanna draw big booty snowbunnies yes im Jamaican also please conthine to draw goodnight

>>7113510
based ktd artist

>60% of posts are half-naked animu gals
The coomer mentality and lack of creativity is astounding.

>>7113521
Haha good to know, hope you're not wasting learning a useless fucking skill.

>>7113529
ok fine mom

Who has the best/most comprehensive/practical hand drawing tutorials out of ModernDayJames, Michael Hampton, Morpho and Proko? Have all 4 downloading but curious where to start. I posted work so you have to help me now :)

I didn’t draw today.

>>7112590
>there's just too much shitty constructed drawings being posted constantly
he says in the beginner artist thread

>>7113529
show me your today creativity :]

>>7113525
I also wanna draw realism and anime and scary shit but I'll ask you guys for advice when I'm done davincimaxxing I'm left handed and not showing the drawings I despise but goodnight fr this time I'm taking my melatonin

>it's a regression week

frentds

düdl

>>7113564
>>7113563
very cute drawings anon

friendly reminder you don't need skill to make it.

>>7113561
You feel it too huh? I had what I've done was made progress and broke a plateau but it opened the door to all sorts of little nasty shortfalls that had formed due to not fully studying fundies.
Lost a year of perceived progress all in a few weeks.
>>7113563
>>7113564
How are you getting color out of the pencil?

>>7113547
Hampton has a good construction method but not nearly enough of the book is dedicated to practicing the hand, I suggest doing Hampton's hands and then practicing more from Morpho or life

>>7113510
This looks like it was drawn by someone who knows how to draw but is intentionally trying to stylize it like a beg so I can’t tell if you’re just a really good beg or what. There’s a sense of cohesion that most beg drawings don’t have.

>>7113281
This gave me a throbbing erection fwiw

>>7113584
thanks for the advice, glad to hear because I actually enjoy Hampton's courses the most out of everyone. His methods are easy enough to understand, but still complex enough to be rewarding to practice and produce good results

>>7113568
who is this person and why are they getting so much traction? inb4 child of celebrity

how broken out of ten ? :}

good night beg
>>7113510
nice

>>7113595
>draw coomer shit
>"how is them getting so popular?"

Really fucked up. BIG TIME.

Attempt at shading on ms paint based on reference from an epic anon in another thread

>>7113661
It's like you are blind or smt. Can't even copy shit right.

>>7112484
Well . . .

>>7113728
well?

>>7113728
The pelvis box for women is wider than the ribcage, tilt the boxes more to make the pose more dynamic and draw the shoulders closer
you kind of got it in your drawing underneath the ref but you didn't tilt the ribcage forward. also one side of her tummy is stretched while the other one squishes a bit

>>7112810
I mean perspective is hard to begin with, and (I'm assuming some stuff here) while you can't even draw a box right, or rather notice it is off, you try to learn it on a horribly difficult subject that is the human body. If you want to get better at it do drawings of simple objects, like furniture or lamps or whatever, while clearly breaking them down into simple forms. And be meticulous about it, it takes time and kinda makes you feel dumb, but you'll stand a good chance on actually improving construction. Though I'm a permabeg myself so honestly you should probably just ignore my post cause I don't know what I'm talking about

>>7113568
>He can draw his hands shit and get away with it
HahahahaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

>>7113728
You gotta do what you gotta do find you're own way about things take processes from different artists personally I found pillows to be most effective way to visualize the human form. Proko calls it a human bean but calling it that makes me violent. I find pillows to give more gesture than hard points like boxes.

>>7113887
a real human bean

>>7112611
what program is that?

>>7112648
>>7113943
Multi-paint system for PC-98. I've managed to make it usable than just an image viewer.

Don't know if I like it or not.

>>7113587
I am new to drawing, so thanks for the compliment? What do you mean by a sense of "cohesion"?

>>7113954
It means that all the parts of the image work together to create a cohesive whole whereas most begs lose the forest for the trees since they get overly focused on or overwhelmed by detail and can’t think of how the image looks as a whole. But you have good balance between the parts in your drawings so I think you’ll have an easier time than most at learning things like proportions, measurements, composition, gesture, etc. Good job, keep it up!

>>7113479
My explanations are doodoo but I'll try
The muscles that attach to the clavicle are the pectorals, deltoids and trapezius muscles.
Trapezius and deltoid each occupy 1/3 of the clavicle
The neck muscle, sternocleidomastoid, is divided into two heads, one attached to the clavicle and the other to the manubrium
The clavicle as well as the scapula will not move much until you raise your arm above 90 degrees, from then on its inclination is very noticeable

>>7113479
also, check this page

>>7113965
I love you.
You should upload all this study and sketching you post here to Twitter. Guaranteed growth.

Trying to sketch at the office.
How do I make my drawings actually look 3d? All my shit is flat as fucking shit.

>>7111986
I don't know what I've been doing for the past few days. This is the best thing I drew during this period. Tell me, does this look attractive? What do you think needs to change to make this better?

>>7114007
It's flat because you're drawing little girls.

>>7114025
The right eye bugs me.

>>7113475
If you're smart, then you will naturally see something is wrong and you will start looking for answer yourself.

>>7113397
>>7113402
The duality of man.

>>7113569
How do you lose a year of progress due to short falls?

So the progress you made was illusionary?

I have some days where I am just really bad, but other days where I seem to draw pretty well. It's weird.

>>7114059
>>7114059
>>7114059

>>7113965
I am op who drew the girl you critiqued, pls make art book or twitter account

>>7111986
I got some advice on how to learn to digitally paint better by copying the reference image rather than tracing it.

I did copy the outlines of the figures in the reference image using a grid, but I don't understand why copying the inner details and clothing of the figures would help me.

I was told to not use the outlines I copied and instead just focus on filling up space on the canvas with the colors selected using the color picker. I know copying the reference image is similar to painting from life, but I don't think this is necessary when I am painting digitally.

What's the purpose of not using outlines and not tracing the different colored areas on the figures?

>>7113999
Nah, he'd have to fix his shitty proportions and flat forms/perspective first.