/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>7107258

I hate drama faggots. Cant you keep your shit in the tranny discord you came from? Mods are worthless nodraws as well.

Book/video recommendations on rendering or materials? Also any comment are appreciated, haven't drawn in a while

>>7107527
>my KtD project got in the op
t-thanks
any crit would be cool. I only now noticed the tip of the spiral was slightly off.
>>7107503

what are some reference books that are worth getting? I feel like it's easiere to study physical references with pencil/paper

>>7107556
were you the KtD anon who did the Rembrandt copy the other day?
I need that guy posting daily so I'll be encouraged to follow along with him, I was at the same point in the book

>7107533
Verification not required.

https://noahdoesart.newgrounds.com/art
How much would it theorically take for a beginner to reach this exact level of skill and draftmanship? Especially his more detailed B&W pieces full how hatching and detailing and approach to anatomy, volume and perspective. He nails a more traditional hatching style digitally really well and has solid fundamentals to boot.
It's not quite at the level of actual pro manga artists like my actual influences, but it is a good point of comparison in regards to how skillful I want my art to look like before I start tackling comics full time (almost no one in /mmg/ is good enough art-wise).

Also, are there any other people striving for high detail line focused manga-like art styles as well? All I see posted here is cartoonier, simplier or render-based art styles, not much stuff that actually implements complex detailing.

>>7107576
are you using ai to color these?

>>7107579
>How much would it theorically take for
285 years.
Gabe fuck off
>>7107580
I'm something of an ai myself

>>7107579
years
i can't believe you don't see complex detailing in the beg thread anon it seems like the perfect place for it

visualazing the man I want to become

>>7107579
the time it takes goes up by 1 year everytime you ask that question

>>7107531
that's not me, but i ended up mindlessly watching will weston + doodling other things (picrel). he's a really good artist but he's so messy and disjointed that it's tough to sit through his lectures, i wish they weren't all an hour long

>>7107521
cool couch...

>>7105446
Im late

>>7107570
nah, i was the other one who mentioned doing the copy and not feeling like i was using someone else's hand

good morning /beg/
today is tomfox leg day

>>7107542
You made this with vectors?

working on this one

>>7107612
this looks cool to me.
how long have you been drawing? and what's your studying process look like

I drew Hanako-san. What do I need to work on most in general?

repost
>>7107220

>>7107252
Thank you so much!

first time trying drapery... the towels hanging off my door.
it was neat drawing from life for once instead of copying from books but man is it more time-consuming and worse-looking

>>7107629
>how long have you been drawing?
on and off since march 2021 (with a very long break in 2022)
for something like this is mostly about copying the drawings (not necessarily 1:1, sometimes it's fun to turn the forms in space as a challenge, but keeping their proportion)

>>7107620
No, it's Krita, made using the airbrush, eraser and ruler for the details like the chrome horizon

What does I need the most work on?

>>7107664
Your taste

>>7107664
needs a futa cock

>>7107667
we've got a comedian in the thread! and he's trying new material

>>7107667
Am I a master now?

>>7107665
She tastes like cardamom and sage

>>7107576
Why is it censored?

>>7107606
Damn. Very nice.
How did you learn figure drawing?

wasn't sure what to do for a background so I just stuck an ai image and applied a ton of filters

>>7107693
wow, she's massive

>>7107693
do you honestly think that looks good

>>7107698
obviously not

>>7107627
I finished it I guess

>>7107701
I would

>>7107701
kind of thicc for jalter

>>7107701
the perspective / form of her right arm and hand are off

Today practices, trying to learn torso and shoulders anatomy.

>keep seeing this shilled on /ic/.
I did the first few exercises already, but I'm not sure how long I should really spend on each exercise. I drew a few pages of spheres

What do I do when I finish this?

>>7107710
>not sure how long I should really spend on each exercise
as long as you need to get a decent result
>What do I do when I finish this?
going through hampton or morpho would be a logical next step

>>7107710
This course, along with every other thing that teaches you how to draw, is to help you draw from imagination with better understanding.

>What do I do when I finish this?

How do you decide on what to study? Do you have some roadmap or just pick whatever seems useful

>>7107701
you made her blush too big, it looks more like a darker skin tone on her face than a blush

I think this one is a bit better, maybe I should just leave her in the void

>>7107724
Just move on to something else. Draw lots of poses, work out perspective, then you can try to polish something you drew

>>7107724
weird outfit, where did you get it from?

>>7107729
I didn't get it from anywhere

>>7107724
void is anime girl's natural habitat

>>7107579
you should kill yourself coom nigger

>>7107733
it shows, that design makes no sense

>>7105698# Yes sir oorah

>>7107728
As long as they don't obsess over a piece, finishing artwork between studies is a healthy habit.

i wanna replicate the "early 2000s anime" art style, am i getting there?

>>7107704
I redrawn the hand

I screwed up the pose but i learned something about what not to do with the legs in the future.

>>7107757
2 left hands

I’ll continue not drawing this weekend.

>getting filtered by a shaded sphere
how the fuck do I make it look like a shadow and not a goddamn voltorb

i'm getting bored by studies but i can't afford to suck at values for much longer

>>7107757
nice

>>7107773
build up the tone slowly methinks

Digital sketching is too frustrating for me. Might die

>>7107785
she looks tense

>>7107778
simplify your shapes, they are too messy. Don't try to copy every little detail from the reference

>>7107778
philtrum/lips are disconnected

>>7107724
If you want it to look like she's lit by the sun, especially the setting sun, then you need to redo the lighting with that in mind, including the direction the light is coming from. Make the shadows darker, and put them down more thoughtfully.

Also for that dress, I feel like it shouldn't be draped over her leg, that bottom corner would have slid off when she assumed her pose. It should be hanging loose behind her. Unless she draped it over herself by hand after she stuck her leg out. Might be worth redesigning the outfit altogether, if you're really committed to this drawing. Look up cool references, but you don't have to copy them 1:1, just get inspiration.

>>7107780
How can I do that with cross hatching?

>>7107798
more dense+harder hatching = darker, less + more spaced out = lighter. start with lighter then work to darker

>>7107797
I already moved on to something else

Any critique on arms?
Just to know so to try and fix them digitally if i'm gonna do final lineart digitally

>>7107570
hey that's me I'll be doing the next project soon I'm taking out my nan to the theaters

>>7107542
No idea. Nice graphical feel but its odd that the subject is desaturated and the background getting all color attentiln

>>7107576
Oh no

>>7107586
Try varying the line weight

>>7107606
Better late than never, gmi

>>7107650
Learning without books is multilevel gains, you metatrain yourself to become better at learning/understanding. Sorry im a brainlet, I cant explain it well but that confusion you feel, explore that

>>7107664
Time to color, no further work needed

>>7107693
Jesus christ

>>7107708
Gmi, keep it up

>>7107724
Star a new drawing, quit yak shaving

>>7107756
I recommend using paper intended for drawing. For comics, try bristol board

>>7107762
All kinds of messed up but soul

>>7107778
Nice

>>7107796
Thighs are different size (where they attach in the hip)

>>7107808
Draw bigger and on real paper, this will propell you forward

Also, would you buy this postcard?

WIP. Trying to do some random shit from imagination. Even with all it's flaws I'm starting to like how it turns out. Probably going to change things up as I go, but I decided that I want to draw a girl sitting on grass under a tree

>>7107813
day 41 of drawing btw, I realized while drawing that gojo drawing that lines are really important and aren't random strokes

>>7107836

how bad is to take long breaks ?, i just pick up my pen after 3 months

>>7107858
I'd say 1 week

>>7107754
SOUL
>>7107856
Soul, but cover the maiden with a proper tunic and gambeson, lecher. Her groin should not be exposed so.

>>7107801
Thanks, I’ll keep practicing it

>>7107836
Dang i keep hearing to draw on real paper and bigger
I don't mind since i filled the pages of this book to the whole but other than drawing bigger which i get why does lined suck?
Just curious
I just had this one because it has a lot of pages and i assumed that the way to use it best was to fill in one page as many small drawings as possible
Probably it's me who is wrong

>>7107612
a few more

>>7107879
I'm only asking because i kept asking other times for advice elsewhere and they haven't mentioned anything about usage of lined
I mean one did tell me that i studying digitally is bad for begs and that i can't be good if i draw on phone so i do it on paper.

>>7107888
Lined paper is for writing, obviously the lines obscure and obstruct your drawing. As for drawing bigger its just easier especially as beg. You are more acurate if an eye off by 1mm doesnt fetal alcohol syndrome your anime girl immediately

>>7107527
Thanks for the feature OP!
>>7107851
based
>>7107836
man, that looks like a cake: sweet and delicious. wanna lick that thing off the paper
>>7107778
suggestions
>blur the crap out of the tree lines in the background, make that shit mysterious
>add highlights with white
>make more defined shadow shapes. Im all for ambigious paintings usually, but here they make a rather dirty feel, see the big strokes on the collars, or the seemingly dirty look of the face
>>7107762
do you have deviantart?
>>7107759
based
>>7107757
great drawing!
>>7107754
do you have a "master plan" with these? Like putting them in a comic/manga or something?
>>7107740
okay, cool, now next step is draw in the shadow shapes and do some light fill to get an end result
>>7107724
/beg/-s0VL. As others said, move on to the next drawing, you tried your best.
>>7107647
i am not really for counting the days.
>>7107638
attempt rendering the hair and draw some basic background, so anons can see your skill level (i am not good at animu)
>>7107533
its good. add backgroun

>>7107896
Thanks
Do you recommend just getting those A4 papers or do i get myself sketchbook too?
This was the size i got from my last one

NTA but I say but yourself a sketchbook to try it but also draw on printer paper too, personally I prefer loose paper because its better for me to store art like that but its also good to flip through a sketchbook (though 80% of the drawings in mine are scribbles or shit sketches)

>>7107813
if you try the Matisse, you might want the biggest paper you have. easier to draw from the elbow/shoulder to get those long lines.
wish I used a full 18x24 for her

>>7107638
Faces, and line quality.

>>7107904
>i am not really for counting the days.
wydm?

>>7107533
Something that would bring this to the next level is practicing adding more of a sense of weight. Is she supposed to be balancing on the balls of her feet or in the middle of standing up? She looks more like she’s lying on her side rather than upright since there’s no feeling of weight in the vertical direction. If you try doing the same pose yourself you’ll feel which parts have the most weight on them and can try showing that by adding more squish and stretch in the right places or changing the angles of some parts.

oop didn't realize there was a new thread
>>7107400
whoa that's way more off than i thought lmao, i should try doing transparent overlays before i finish something, i'm just worried that one day i'll get lazy and start tracing to fix mistakes... that would all be on me tho so no point worrying about it if i won't do it now. and maaaan i redrew the arm like five times cause it was too long but i completely missed the torso. my visual measuring is all wacky
tyty for the resources! i really appreciate it and i'm gonna see what i can do to start implementing the advice they offer!
>>7107528
yoshikazu is an absolute nut. when he goes all out for a panel you can really tell. i also love the way he works with scenes and movement. i def gotta reread from the start and pick out all the pages and panels i like

>>7107904
Holy shit i fucked up shading again even after watching shading tutorial
I'm starting to think i have to go and learn to shade more than anatomy

>>7107759
Today I also colored an old drawing of mine

>>7107904
Im not an artist yet so i dont have a gallery.

>>7107954
squinting while lookin at the shadows helps break them down into shapes you can shade with

What are some good books for hair? I realized I spent so much time on anatomy and figures and I can't draw hair at all.

>>7107925
Thanks! ill keep that in mind.

Am I going crazy or most women drawn here are drawn by p***philes?

>>7107988
we are all paedophiles here bro.

okay so I need a roadmap set out
I'll complete KTD, then what else?

trying to figure out how my perspective rectangles look- i feel like i struggle with imagining different perspectives in my head

Gonna skip out on memory drawings for this page because they are low res and ugly.

>>7107527
Just a quick help, guys
I fix this guy's art a little >>>/a/264493213
But I forgot that I am currently banned on /a/ (off topic)

Please just kindly pass it on to him
The lack of neck just bothered me

>>7108040
I'm on Day 41 of drawing and I haven't studied perspective but you're getting there I can see it, youre line quality however is lacking (sorry if I'm too hard) but you should try drawing with your shoulder and ghosting your lines.

Also if you wanna learn how to draw boxes from imagination I learned this in Unity, this is what boxes are made up of, notice how they kinda have a distorted "Y" shape? Try doing that and imagine if as the top view, edge, or down view of a box

>>7108048
as you can tell Engrish isn't my first language apologies for that ಥಥ

>>7108048
yeah, my lines still aren't very good lmao, but thanks for the advice- the y shape thing has already helped a ton with changing the perspective a bit

>>7107586

>>7108053
no problem, first they'll start out bad and it'll get better in the long run GMI!

Do your friends and family know you post on this website? if people in public knew you posted here, would that be a point of pride or embarrassment for you?:

>>7108060
neither, 4chan helped me a lot especially with how I view my life now, back then, (like 3 days ago) I realize the true road to progress is trial and error and to keep going. Just draw, just code, just write. etc.

And if you want to get better at it, study the things people recommend you. It sounds gay I know but I appreciate this board and the amateur game development bored

>>7108060
I tell people all the time that I always share my art on anonymous forums for critique, I don't have any feelings about this. I don't say "4chan" because they would not care, they would not know. For those who know it, they would probably associate you with something bad I think, like racists or incels (because le hacker called 4chan)

Recently I've been thinking about the risks of 4chan, and desu Twitter is regarded as a mainstream social media but extremists, bullies, schizos and antisocial people, so theres that too.

>>7107954
further suggestions
>do not bring yourself down, does not help you
>its ok to take time to learn things, failing and bad drawings are to be expected
>I see your doing these face drawings and thats cool but you might want to follow Keys to Drawing as well.
>experiment with laying down multiple layers of graphite so you get dark values.

>>7108048
>Day 41 of drawing
how do you know all of this at day 41.

I still feel confused on whether or not to continue learning to draw. I keep feeling like I want to, but my struggle at even improving a little is deterring me.

>>7108096
ENTER

little progress each day leads up to big results less thinking more drawing.
>>7108085
im retarded and I observe a lot of things around me and don't think when I draw sometimes. Working out helped me a lot especially swimming

>>7108096
I improved the most by not drawing. After every month long break, I come back much better at drawing.

Now, I only draw once a month, and am already better than 99% of /ic/. The key is to not miss your one day of drawing, though.

>>7108112
nigga what

>>7108031
honestly, planning doesn't help for shit. it's so easy to spend time planning instead of drawing.
complete the book first, then come ask what to do.

Shoutouts to >>7107740 anon took his low res ref and made this shitty painting, lots of free-transform was used and still fucked it up.

beg bros....
2 Weeks ago the painting on the right was the best i could do..
Im getting better every day and its crazy

>>7107782
>>7107790
I'd read a full webcomic in this artstyle

study from your masters they said

you'll get better they said.... right?
Day 41 of drawing
>>7108128
alright bet
>>7108135
GMI

>>7108147
>forgot to attach the image

Sup beg, i though i would be done today, but i got absolutely stumped with the colors. i heavily underestimated how trivial picking colors for the job will be. I will have to sleep on this and hopefully tomorrow find solution which works. As it is now, the bright lines looks the best on dark background and vice versa for dark ones. But i need both? It is NOT OVER yet!

>>7108135
>>7108129
is the "just paint" advice real?
>>7108114
the way how you drew the bra suggests she managed to turn her spine full 90 degrees. you either need to show less (foreshorten) of right booba, or less of her ass. you cannot have both
>>7108096
less thinking, more drawing
>>7108057
>>7107966
>>7107851
BOOBA
>>7108045
your fwap grind mogs me so hard i feel like i didnt do it. feels very beg
>>7108031
>>7107718
when i started, there were only 2 stickies. both recc same book: KtD. After i finished it i made up a simple plan of observation>perspective>figures. Make your own plan AFTER you finish the KtD
>>7107968
>he doesnt have blog with every single doodle he ever made
NGMI
>>7107009
thanks for the rare helpful crit!
>>7107016
i did the book, i am not watching 999 hours of vilppu

>>7107757
>>7107759
>>7107778
>>7107966
>>7108046
>>7108114
>>7108129
Stupid attention whores, you are already /pro/ and aware of it, and purposely post these to demoralize permaprebegs to quit drawing.
If you can draw already stick your drawings to your ass, this thread is for people who can't draw.
Petulant, self-righteous, psychopathic,mentally unstable, corrupted, vile, vicious, vomitive, dimwitted,barbaric,grumpy, disenfranchised, disgruntled, megalomaniac trannies

>>7108158
ty i tweaked it a bit

>>7108169
>Petulant, self-righteous, psychopathic,mentally unstable, corrupted, vile, vicious, vomitive, dimwitted,barbaric,grumpy, disenfranchised, disgruntled, megalomaniac trannies
Did you describe your own mental illnesses by accident?

>>7108114
are you studing houtengeki? the face really reminds me of his style
but there is something weird between the perspective of the chest and the rest of the body

>>7108169
>/pro/
Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
>>7108158
I can't put to words how ugly that drawing is. God helps you pal.

>>7108206
flip your canvas

>>7108135
That is righteous as fuck. Keep aiming high, king!

>>7108158
I have all my drawings saved, i just havent posted because they dont have the quality to be posted in a gallery.

One day for sure.

This sounds like a stupid question, but what is the preferred method for drawing things you're bad at that aren't "fundementals"? I'm trying to copy an image, and have no clue how jean shorts work. Do I find 50 images that have jean shorts and just study those? Find tutorials on pintrest/youbube???

>>7108234
how will you study something if you can't copy it? observe better

>>7108169
> wasn't called barbaric tranny
it's over

Can someone please help me on the neck and clavicle area? I swear the proportions on the neck area in general are driving me crazy. Especially on the trapezius muscle.

>>7107701
>Jalter
You have amazing taste anon, and as well as a good drawing. How'd you learn to render?

>>7107904
>Like putting them in a comic/manga or something?
I would like it

>>7108234
if you are just copying an image you don't really need anything other than accurate observation
but if you want to use the information in your reference in another way, there are specific studies you can try
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MgDIgNlo0s

Learning anime proportions for the first time tonight, got carried away drawing that silly elf lol
I figure a more basic anime style is best to learn first because I tried going right into figuring out Toriyama's style and it is WAY too stylized for me to understand at the moment

when I'm done from the movies I'm gonna challenge myself and draw a photo of my backyard
>okay and?
with crosshatching... aka the shit that I avoided for months especially with manga art l

Last time OP said I would never finish my drawing and I never did, hopefully I finish this one

I didn’t draw today. What’s the longest you’ve gone without drawing? i’m at about 180 days, now.

>>7108353
don't draw photos to learn hatching, draw from masters / manga / existing drawings

>>7108343
based Frieren poster. Pay attention to the size of the forehead however

>>7108252
I see your art a lot anon, I like it.

>>7108158
I believe in you Pawell!

>>7108343
your face is too big, so it makes the head looks small.

>>7108388
Yeah I can kind of see what you're saying, I think I just put the hairline a bit too high up

>>7107527
What does it look like?

>>7108403
max caufield

practiced heads today via a loose version of the loomis method, realized i was bad at drawing actual features, and ended up scribbling this instead. i hope i eventually reach a point where i don't draw pecs as tits

>>7108413
snippets of the heads in question. i guess i need to study skulls/the features standalone

>>7108169
Easy there mr. /beg/let. Most of the people you listed are mid, high /beg/ Maybe you just need to get better.

>>7107796
>>7107856
I liked the first face better desu. More interesting.

>>7108413
Nice bulge bro!

>>7107701
>>7107627
please start doing ntr, love your style

>>7108413
fucking faggot

>>7108415
>features too big?
Remember to leave room for the side of the head. I think the skull structure and positioning of parts is the most important thing rather than the features themselves. If you learn the skull well enough the features will look better immediately, so at least practice features on top of a skull structure

How can I improve

>>7107778
Your halftone is too dark remember halftone is in the light family. Also your lightest lights are too dark. Look at the reference again and squint ignore the detail just draw the shapes. Block in your darkest darks.

>>7108449
Meant to say block in shapes starting from darkest dark ie under her nose, eye sockets ect. https://youtu.be/bAcWM6rnnlA?si=TnCvei1OWg0OMmpo He kinda sucks but you get the idea

>>7108169
chill the fuck out. none of those pieces are pro-level. (mine is the Anya Taylor Joy portrait in case someone wants me to post my work)

re all the feedback i got in this thread: thanks peeps, i guess i know what to focus on next. that is, a cleaner and more harmonious brushwork

is it me or do horse heads feel strange in a front facing view?

I felt uncanny even doing a quick lineart

>>7108507
Too symmetrical. The og has a slight till toward the left. You also have some proportional problems. Finally, horses are hard too draw in general. How about drawing frogs. They are easy too draw.

>>7108516
I was actually trying to draw a symmetrical horse, i.e. a symmetrical version of the horse.

But yeah seeing the eyes especially there's some offness in the proportions. Looks a bit more like a donkey

>>7108507
god damn
it might help to observe/draw from real horse photographs

>>7108523
unfortunately when i google "front facing horse" almost all pictures have their head down like this, I wanted to specifically draw it with it's mouth kind of up and pointed at the camera

I wanted to kill myself while drawing this but it actually turned out fine though
There's a general lack of cohesion and sharpness though... I gotta make some changes in my process and maybe abandon the soft brushes
>>7108507
that is because it's not the "front" this is the horse actually tilting it's head up, it's more like the bottom
>>7108527
this IS a front facing horse

>>7108528
Cute girl

>>7108528
huh adding the tilted up worked a bit

although most pictures where the head is tilted up are kind of goofy funny ones

>>7108530
bro DAMN dont you understand the horse's neutral/default position is angling it's mouth downwards? thats how they're built, if it's tilting its head up it IS doing something silly/unnatural. Have you never seen a horse irl?

>>7108507
>>7108527
fuck i can’t look at a front facing horse without thinking of “how hungry”

>>7108531
When did I ever say that it wasn't their natural position?

I want to draw horse's heads from that tilted up view.

>>7108534
then its GONNA look goofy, horses dont do that unless theyre being goofy

>>7108535
I want to draw a monster horse biting something like the bottom right of this pic, however there's not very many references of real life horses that aren't in strange or goofy poses

Most of the ones are 3D models you can rotate around or other stuff, very few in a pose like this

>>7108529
>girl

>>7108480
I liek this

>>7108537
wait so you got the perfect reference of what you want to draw and you're looking for somethine else because...?

>>7108540
I want other references too, mostly cause I can't really see the bottom jaw and I wanted one where it's more tilted up (the pic is tilted a little too down)

>>7108129
Can you post ref?

>>7108507
I am fucking dead

>>7108553
there's no cock like horsecock, mr. hands

What is the drawing equivalent of YandereDev's coding?

>>7108570
Obvious joke tweet

Fuck hands

>>7108583
Fuck the dentist

>>7108583
>>7108585
yeah those teeth are uh, pretty horrifying

>>7108570
Symbol drawing, or someone following a hyper-specific tutorial.

>>7107527
Reading the loomis book. Whaddaya think?

>Thought I was improving
>it was all software updates

I hate the industrial revolution so much it's unreal

>>7108650
durrr

>>7108650
read a different book

>>7108654
left arm pose seems awkward, gun angle/perspective doesn't seem to match the hand
right hand is too narrow / doesn't match the right

>>7108677
*match the left

What is my ass missing from the ref ass?

>>7108681
darker shadow values, some thicker lines and a bit more round ass cheek line
Also push her lower back in a bit more
and look at the brush strokes that go over her ass cheek, they follow the form better.

>>7108681
Brush strokes on the ass cheek go the wrong way, making it flat. Compare with ref

>>7108685
>darker shadow
My shadows are literally darker

>>7108687
Not just the ass cheek, ref lines go around the forms much better overall.

>>7108688
they are a bit darker on the reference right next to the ass crack, but it's more that you lost the shadow edge on her left butt cheek that gave me the impression they were lighter

>>7108583
hey retard with the ugly ass style
look at the back of your hand and make sure to notice that bit of skin between your fingers

>>7108507
They can be kinda goofy depending on the angle you catch em at

>>7108541
Horses look stupid as hell from this angle

>>7108528
would

>>7108445
thanks x

I think the head feels a bit long?

>>7108785
Shift the left eye to the right

>>7108785
better or worse?

>>7108799

>>7108809
I love this board so much

>>7108413
the big guy bent over (?) looks really weird but i can't place why.

>>7107693
That is actually cool, though her scale to the rest of the picture looks off.

>>7108809
The perspective on the eyes are wrong. They should be roughly on the same plane. The right eye is good, but the left eye isn't. You need to rotate the left eye counter clockwise about the Z axis, if that makes sense.

>>7108158
>Pawell actually got bullied by /beg/ into finally attempting to draw an actual work instead of endless studies
Not gonna lie, looks a bit above your skill level right now, but you won't improve if you always stay in comfort zone. Good luck with the drawing.

>>7108831
???

>>7108809

>>7108809
Anon.

>>7107527
Hi Anons, I can't draw. I just want to learn it for hobby purposes. I want to see if I actually can draw some stuff that doesn't look utter dogshit someday.
I have an apple ipad pro 2nd gen and the pencil. My only question is can I start with freeform to do basic training like forms, lines and so on?

>>7108854
it's perfect, don't listen to the others, it's just your style

I got back into drawing after like 5 years of pause, I never got out of /beg/, why is this also /int/?
anyway, is the torso to hips too long? I always fuck the length up and I'm trying to focus on fixing it
and, is there a tutorial on making a good clean lines in CPS, I was never able to pass from rough because my cleans always look terrible

>>7108861
keep going, anon. im on the edge of my seat watching where this goes

>>7108101
>>7108158
>less thinking more drawing
...But I'm saying I don't know if I want to. Why would I keep doing it if I don't even know if I'm enjoying it?

>>7108861
Anon pls, look at references in 3/4 view

>>7108726
Huh found this tutorial

Will see it when I get the chance

>>7108878
i can't not laugh at illustrations of horses looking straight at you
HOW HUNGRY?

>>7108866
>>7108856
>>7108813
you can almost hear these faggot nodraw crabs scuttering

>>7108866

>>7108878
i imagine white women feel the same way drawing these as we dudes do drawing a nice ass or titties

>>7108899
more like when they are drawing dogs

>>7108861
The left eye (our right) should be shifted a little bit to the characters left (our right)

Also I think you should add a line connecting the left eyebrow of the character to the nose

>>7108900
well yes that too

>>7108413
>>7108816
I think it’s because he doesn’t look like he’s being pulled on the leash. He’s kind of just standing there and there happens to be a leash. Needs to be pulled forward more.

why do half the people on this site draw eyes that look like that?
it's always the same fucking eyes man

>>7108901

2nd bridgman study session. I didn't have as much time as i would have wanted to draw today so that's why there are fewer figures. I also only drew the last pose 4 times so i could get in some drawing from reference and try to apply some shapes. I think they came out alright but i'm probably using too many straight lines without balancing them with some curves which may make my figures a bit stiff. Also i need to take an anatomy refreshed, completely forgot the leg muscles.
In the future i may skip the small more gestural bridgman drawings so i could focus on the ones with more structure. Or i may skip ahead to specific body parts chapters and then skip back to the full bodies.

>>7108206
No I haven't

>>7108889
pyw

>>7108169
Classic /ic/

>>7108952
>>7108838
>>7108681
>>7108528

>>7108919
>i may skip ahead to specific body parts chapters and then skip back to the full bodies.
This is good thinking. Good work so far!

>>7108169
one of the guys you reponded to is legitimately near /pro/ but he has been chipping away at this artstyle for half a year and his art still varies in quality, idk why he would just stop posting instantly, other guys you quoted are high /int/ at best but their work is still muddy, one drawing you responded to is comically bad. I think you're just a pre-beg that doesnt even know how tall the mountain to climb is.

>>7108919
Screw you leleack12

>tried to do the igor thing
>ran out of space because I drew shit too big
Do I start over

I think I fucked the perspective on this piece (the horse and the man’s shoulders) but I don’t have the brain power to fix it help

>>7108551
This is highest res i could find from a quick reverse image search

>>7108997
Thanks brethren

>>7108570
Construction and people that use boxes to draw everything

>>7108570
Fuckers who will break down a figure into a gorillion fucking boxes and shit beforehand.

>>7109011
>>7109012
Hey schizo, glad you're alive.

figuring out the Toriyama/Shintani style little by little, I think the main thing that helped me understand it is that the eye area is kind of tilted/pinched in towards the center of the face
Still on the hunt for a good lineart brush I like, these two busts are just a rough sketch though

>>7109011

please gib feedback
also anyone else in the endless retarded cycle where they draw something using reference nice, get cocky and then try to draw a pose from imagination only to fail and burn out

>>7109024
Seems a bit...
*half-assed*

Did an earthsworld tonight, any tips for portraits?

>>7109026

>>7108996
>that time I got reincarnated into the wild west and tried to live a slow life in the countryside with my horse

>>7108135
>”beg”

To draw FROM IMAGINATION YOU MUST FIRST BE ABLE TO CONSTRUCT AKA USE SIMPLE FORMS TO DRAW THE SCAFFOLD FOR HUMAN OR ANYTHING ELSE YOU ARE DRAWING IN A SIMPLE AND PRECISE MANNER
Just a daily reminder drawing is all about forms and BOX is their god

>>7109084
nah

>>7108435
Why are you into ntr?

>>7109077
Copying a photo apparently makes you a pro these days
lmao

>>7109053

does having a computer in front of me prevent me from drawing?

>mangaka and comic artist requires literally everything

bros ...

>>7109173
>Oh no I have to learn and get better

>>7109173
>mfw game dev and I need to learn to be good at art because I want to avoid pixel art slop

>>7109177
no I'm just happy because I didn't know this existed

>>7109185
now yuo see why pixel art is so predominant
but desu just look at old flash games or shit like world of goo, if you develop a cartoonish and easy to produce style it's doable that way

>>7109185
does this count as pixel art

>>7109196
forgot to attach the pic

>>7109199
IMO no, but it would probably be approved on pixeljoint

>>7109199
by definition yes, but something high res like this is made predominantly by traditional art skills rather than low res pixel art ones, so it's more of a stylization at this point

>>7109199
technically yes but nah it's so high res you can just draw it like that anon said

Does anyone have any advice on finding place to advertise commissions? I've done them before and made profit, but that was a while ago and prior to when I went radio silent on the internet for a while.

I wanna back into the game but I feel like I'm entirely out of the meta now.

>>7109263
>finding place to advertise commissions?
public toilets.

>>7109266
Honestly. I'm gonna fucking try that and see if it works.

>3 days nodraw
i'm getting worse, nearly put the pen through the tablet screen half-way through warmup gestures because i was mad at how shit they were

can somebody tell me whats exactly wrong with this?
It looks off. I think its something with the eyes?

>>7109287
One eye is in perspective, the other is flatly facing the viewer. Should be closer to the nose too

I was bored

>>7109263
>draw current popular thing
>get updoots and retweets
>advertise commissions below
People are simple

>>7109014
I think you were referring to me but im nta you're responding to, it's just that my message is spreading

I can't draw on layers
I can't do th sketch>lineart on separate layers, i have to gradually clean up my sketch until it's lineart, that approach "works" but it also makes my drawings look messy and unprofessional
Is there a third way?

>>7109278
Are you trying to construct or do gesture? Watch some draw-a-longs with good artists who are practicing I'm currently watching a few and just copycating every stroke until I can get comfortable.
https://www.youtube.com/@REIQ/streams
https://www.youtube.com/@lovelifedrawing

>>7109173
the easiest way to obtain art, excluding AI, is unironically to do two hours of overtime at the day job and pay some other guy to do it, it's basic economics.
But playing on easy is the third gayest thing you could ever do, after being homosexual and drinking tea containing less than 35% bourbon

>>7109326
my goal for now is just being able to reliably draw figures from ref then imagination
i'll check those channels out ty but the artist whose gestures I really want to be able to replicate atm is Hampton, I love his style over others
i'm sticking to just learning from him + Bridgman for now to avoid course + workflow jumping
lineart like i posted there is just because i don't feel like i've actually drawn if all i've done is gestures

>>7109322
I set the sketch layer at about 10-20% opacity and use another color like light blue so it's easier to ignore.

I guess you could also use a pixel art brush with no AA so every sketch pixel is the exact same color, preferably one distant from the color range of your lineart brush, and when you're done with the lineart just select every pixel in your sketch with a color selection tool at 0 tolerance and erase that.

>>7109353
Yes i did the coloring trick with filter layers but it wasn't much help

That pixel brush idea is extremely interesting... Did you come up with that yourself?
Even so I worry it wouldn't be that effective, how much different is it from just using layers? Seems like it's the same except you don't have the leisure of hiding the sketch whenever you want

>>7109173
Why the hell does an architect need “moderate” color theory and values while an animator needs low? Those should be flipped. Hell, you arguably don’t even need to know how to draw to be an architect.

>>7109322
you could use layers,
clean up doesn't need to look messy, do it better.

is me marking down my days of drawing count as namefagging? I don't wanna namefag

Sup beg, its over. Next time i will start with thumbnail to save myself. No thumbnail = big problems. Yes, it is /pol art.

>>7109322
even tradchads have layers (tracing paper, light table, hard or blue pencil + ink)
>>7109287
ear is too close to eye, eyes would look better closer to each other
>>7109278
feeling anger is great, channel the anger into canvas
>>7109263
if you play the social slop games right (twitter, tiktok, facebook, pixiv, DA, furaffinity), then people nag you for comms themselves from what i have heard. you can tell because you see people putting into their profiles: NO COMMISSIONS NO TRADES FUCK OFF!
>>7109219
nice
>>7109185
i like the idea how people think making good pixel art is easy while its more time consuming than just traditional lineart or painting
>>7109035
my tip is patiently wait for it to dry before going for final black lines so they keep nice and sharp, enhancing the face features. alternatively do the linework with ink not soluble in water, then paints over it
>>7109025
its alright
>>7108996
i kneel
>>7108858
looks alright to me. torso is 2~3 heads tall, it really depends on how tall or young the figure is
>>7108843
>>7108650
keys to drawing
>>7108448
look up some better manga and notice how they draw left VS right eye in 3/4 view heads. they do it to imply the head is 3D and foreshortened. also google up how people hold cup of coffee: they dont dip the sleeve into the cup
>>7108234
some people consider drapery as one of the fundies. there are literally art books just about how to draw clothes. anyway if you have good reference, then you dont need to understand anything. just draw what you see

>>7109385
My brain is not wired for it, it's single-threaded, 2 layers at once is for less retarded people with more up to date brain hardware

For how long I've been doing "alla prima" or 1 layer drawings it just doesn't seem like you can achieve the polish that is standard for the industry. Too many micro adjustments, and every micro adjustment tilts it a little outof balance

couldn't enter flowstate today feel like shit

>>7109084
Except the forms from which you are supposed to construct the human body from actually don't translate to the organic human body at all, it's basically a separate skill

Took a break for today from studies. Played a lot of Fear & Hunger 2.
>>7109394
political stuff usually ain't my cup of joe but I love how you rendered the tanks and the background. Keep it up Pawell.
>>7109406
it happens, soon you'll get back into the flow. I believe in you anon.

>>7108234
The path of the jort is not to be taken lightly. You must study 10 years under a jaster jof jthe jraft

>>7108871
Pls gibe answer, I don't wanna waste another month trying to learn only to give up in frustration.

>>7108871
how long have you been learning to draw?

>>7109394
thats cool pawell, it improved a lot. In the previous version I was not sure about the composition, felt really off, but this one I could easily read from the thumbnail and just looks right

Is it bad my main inspiration for drawing is lurking on my private Twitter account and seeing people older than me drawing like toddlers and saying "I could mog them in like 6 years"

>>7109502
it's not my main inspiration but like oh shit if I complain about my art more than I draw then I'm going to end up like them like how I run sometimes, "If I don't reach for the mailbox before this car does my family dies"

>>7109294
>>7109278
>>7109025
>>7108991
>>7108938
>>7108936
>>7108898
just curious, when you guys draw these anime girls in the void, are you copying a photo, or trying to invent a new character?
>>7109502
competitiveness is masculine, we all need rivals.

>>7109519
some are reference photos and other are just trying to draw from imagination

>>7109519
>>7109025 here
I use references for poses. I regularly attempt at drawing them from imagination but they always end up stiff and most of the time I get discouraged before I get it to some semi-finished state
I find drawing poses waaaay more enjoyable when using a good reference photo, and get into the flow much easier
if I'm not doing a study I do a lots of adjustments to proportions and stuff to my liking anyway

by the way does it mean I'm a perma/beg/ if I can only draw using reference?

>>7109519
I just did this one >>7109294

quickly from imagination and it shows, but the more quick poses you draw (2-5 min) the more you remember and can construct them up

>>7109406
Did you draw goebbels?

>Think art looks really good right after I draw it
>looks like a deformed mutant when I view it the next day
What causes this phenomenon

>>7109567
i look like this

>>7109567
kawaii uguu

>>7109561
looks fine to me

>>7109567
OP material.

Left or Right?

>>7109567

>>7109589

f

>>7108878
huh the tutorial does help

I'll need to practice more but I like the results so far

>>7108785
>>7108800
>>7108809
Mogs me

>>7109555
>by the way does it mean I'm a perma/beg/ if I can only draw using reference?
kind of more likely opposite. permabegs usually cant/don't use them, this main sign of permabegness.

>>7109639
NTA, but I keep forgetting to use references. Thanks for reminding me to use em.

>>7109573
I know I'm shit but please help, I keep switching back and forth

>>7109645
forgot to comment gomen
Personally I like right, it feels like it flows more. Not to say that left is wrong per se, just personal preference.
Also, what do you mean you're shit? I love your drapery!

>>7109573
The first one looks more reasonable (my guess is she jumped over something and is landing on the front foot?), second one is more like she's flying/swinging through the air and would only look reasonable if she was swinging on a rope or parachuting or someshit

>>7109648
Thanks, right is the "fixed" version because the balance was bothering me

>>7109649
It supposed to be mid run...

>>7109656
If she's running straight then both are weird
imo you should use the first one but rotate HER right leg to the right so it looks like she's strafing
idk it feels like she's twisting her hips too much for a run but what do I know I'm a /beg/, you should probably just flip a coin and not waste time thinking about this for several hours

>>7109635
Pyw

>>7109665
I think you read my mind, happier with this now
I'll have to fix the dress but at least the legs aren't bothering me now
I was picturing her running straight but turning to the left

>>7109667

>>7109695
Not entirely sure what I'm looking at

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>>7109609
holy shit did you just load his art into AI? That's brutal af, I hope I never get mogged like that

>>7109609
>>7109719
>:[

>>7109719
Thanks, I see now, I still like her twisting to the side though

>>7109671
>>7109731
not that anon, but can you see that her spine is broken? Can you do that pose?

>>7109695
reminds me a bit of the bionicles whiich had cool ass guns in their arms. you could clean that up

>>7109732
Was going by this

>>7109592
>>7109589
schizo anon, I am glad to see you still posting

>>7109737
Your drawing does not look like that at all.

>>7109744
Damn, I thought my construction wasn't that bad

>>7109746
Holy cow, that's bad. You seriously can't see her extremely twisted hip?

>>7109755
I mean, I don't see how >>7109737 is okay but >>7109746 isn't, seems like the same twist

>>7109737
look at the green marking on her pelvis and then the green marking on her belly, they need to fit together, you twisted the doll too much

>
@#@

>>7109777
Nice, boobs to big so I can't see what's going on in the chest though
I guess I just need to go back to drawing more figures, no point trying to do full pieces if it takes me this long and still comes out wrong

>>7109772
Thanks, yeah I see that now

Perma beg doodler here, any good ways of visualising/drawing hair that's more iconographic and simple to flesh out? I have a very basic couple of hairstyles that I draw but I mostly just draw bald people. I often draw hair too cartoon-y but when I try to be more realistic, it's just messy and gross to look at...

I an't draw faces worth fucking shit. A solid fucking hour trying to plap a face there, even fucking sight sizsing it and nothing comes out properly.
I am nothing but a huge disappointment.

>>7109780
Doing full pieces is good motivation to try and make things look right, and aiming high is important for improvement. Just look at how much you learned from this one. Still practice figures, of course, but don't feel like you're in jail or anything. You're doing good!

>>7109806
I feel you fellow sufferbro

>>7109727
85% of it is just his drawing. I sloppely toned it but but all thses lines and buildings are his work. What I did is much more simple because I do not need to draw or invent anything

>>7109609
good shit pawell day 42 of drawing rn

finally embraced that i am worthless talentless subhuman piece of shit and just started to copy shit that i like. what now?

>>7109855
copy and then start from ktd then to another book. Make drawing a habit than study shit and enroll into art classes. I forgot their name but some anon who drew vtubers recommended me that

>>7109856
>inb4 "How do you know this is gonna work"
nigga i don't know, but us humans evolved with trial and error there's new easy way out well except for a mossenberg but you get it

Is it worth helping begs? Do they learn?

>>7109862
if they produce begkino yes
if they talk but no drawing no

I had a bad day drawing today cus I couldn't because of work but instead of talking about it I'm gonna post it

Man. This comic has given me severe brain damage because it made me realize that half the reason I'm scared of doing drawing video courses is because I turn off my music while doing them. I've since resolved myself to just have music on as low background noise to ease my stress, even if I need to replay parts of videos lol

>>7109863
Stand proud, you can cook

>>7109872
imagine needing music to draw hahahaha but seriously might just be me but i can't focus or be mindful at all when listening to music while drawing

>>7109519
>anime
fuck you too anon, that was rude

>>7109881
I spent basically every waking moment during my college years listening to music to escape my errant thoughts/stress and do work so I'm pretty used to it at this point lmao... But I will admit that the type of music you listen to probably affects things as well
I tried my theory out with a short lesson video and got a little distracted by a D12 song but the rest passed by without any incident
It also helps to have it at a really low volume, like mall or supermarket music, not really present unless you pay attention. If words catch your attention too much you can always go for instrumental stuff, etc

I'm not happy with Kitas torso but I'm going to bed now

>>7109853
Look at the file name retard.
>>7109777
>>7109719
>>7109609

>>7109911
wallahi he's fucking finshed nvm

>385 replies
>0 (you)s
that bad huh

How can the hands be made to look better?
Will it look much better once I render the image?