/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>7105387

>>7105406
It looks way too messy. It took me a minute to even see the book because of how many lines you drew.

>>7105411
its a first attempt at gesture drawing. yeah the book was just a line thrown there at the very end.

>>7105408
have you tried doing more than just half assed sketches?

I tried to draw OC

But then decided to draw fanart, because I suck at design

>>7105369
POSE ANON PLEASE COME BACK I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DRAW WITHOUT YOU

>>7105429
Based red/blue pencil sketch enjoyer

I want to clone myself and rape myself

The OP images are the only reason I come to these threads

>just draw

I have a new pose

>>7105446
God I want to lick hear armpits clean

>>7105428
>>7105429
Looks great anon, def gmi

>>7105267
Not symbol drawing, but could use some work on structure. I'd like to think of the eyes as balls covered by a top lid and bottom lid. Kind of like this. Hope my scribbles make sense. Keep going with more heads!

>>7105406
Not sure what you want us to say about this. Clean it up maybe? What are you trying to say with the pose? Would be cool to see a more refined sketch of the pose to understand the purpose more.

>>7105406

>>7105427
I have, but I like sketching more

>>7105428
>>7105429
sorry, was giving you hard time with the pose earlier. Looks great, would like to see an inked piece from you. Keep feeeling the form!

>>7105441
Same

>if you keep pumping out slop you'll eventually be good at art
is this true?

>>7105479
if you keep pumping out slop you'll eventually be good at pumping out slop

Sorry for repost
Really feel like it's going well and that i'm finally understanding how to draw proper head
Or maybe it's just me?

>>7105479
I mean, do you expect to pump out something good right off the bat? It's all going to look like slop for a while, but you improve.
If you aren't improving, you're doing something wrong

>>7105495
>If you aren't improving, you're doing something wrong
Or maybe you're just naturally shit like me

Rough sketch. It's prebegover...
But even if it's shit I just feel that I have to draw it. At least I'll have something for comparisons after I get good.
The shoulders are too wide, probably, among other things. Tomorow I'll look at it with fresh eyes, but now sleep.

>>7105495
Don't engage with bait, anon.
Draw a cutie instead

>>7105479
Yes and no. You have to try your best, despite it looking like slop at first. Aim high, and brace for failure. But if you get complacent with pumping out slop, then it will remain slop no matter how long you do it.

Am I understanding figure drawing right?

>>7105467
I just wanted to know if it looked like a female figure holding a book up. and yeah, I agree its very rough and dirty, taking baby steps into figure drawing.

>>7105446
she looks greasy

>>7104676
They call me 007
0 works
0 effort
7 gorillion pointless scribbles

>>7105517
Thicker buttocks
Knee fold reaches much highee on the leg
Lower legs are less thick
Feet joint is a mess
More perspective on the chest and breasts. You are making them bigger since you think "big breasts look like this" and are not looking correctly at the picture.

Flip the canvas and the pic to see if you notice things you didn't before. I believe in you. Also stealing that pic to study since it's top tier sexo.

>>7105538
https://twitter.com/Makachan_02/media
this one is the cosplayer i took these from.
but they arent very dynamic.

>>7105542
it's pretty normal to exaggerate in when doing gestures + figs
+ if you think the ref is shit and boring just don't use it

From Paul Murry's story THE LAST RESORT which begins one of his Disney Masters books. Mickey and Goofy are driving out to a location listed in a guide, but Goofy didn't realise that this particular resort listing was dated to 1902.

It's pretty interesting to be reminded that these guys drew large, often on 20x30" sheets of bristol paper, and usually began with a col-erase sketch just like a lot of animators. Carl Barks went on record talking about his working methods and I'm sure Murry was the same way.

at your earliest convenience, please attempt this Cham Fau in your style

>>7105446
this is so difficult

>>7105582
this takes me back

>>7105446
I don't know why but I can't help drawing always a bit out of frame.

>>7105597
Since you are digital have you tried to blob the figure? A lot of my personal issues with figure drawing was managing chaos and blobbing helped me a ton managing proportions and direction. It gave me a solid base to work shapes on.

>>7105622
what do you exactly mean by blobbin? using the liquify tool?

>>7105597
Before you start drawing, put two little markers for top of the head and one of the feet, you'll never leave the canvas anymore

>>7105627
hey, thats pretty good! ill try it out, thank you for the suggestion.

>>7105623
Like using a very thick brush and almost like silhouetting the figure but roughly.

I decided to try and record my shading and lighting tricks. A friend of mine showed me how to set the gradiant layer to give a more colorful tone.

>>7105446

>>7105636
haven't tried that. but I will

>>7105646
tip for my fellow gigabeg
if you finish your gesture and/or boxing, overlay it on the ref, and you're not even close
there's no point line-arting it before you fix it

god I fucking hate that I only draw 30-60 minutes a day
I'm a fucking neet I should at least do one thing productive in my life and grind for 4hrs+ or some shit

>>7105597
>>7105517
>>7105518
Don't know if you're the same anon, but your gestures aren't that bad. I would work on simplifying the shapes and accentuating one or two "ideas" of the figure.

Think about what you're trying to tell or jot down with the gesture you're drawing. Sometimes, it's as simple as "I like the hips, I'll focus on them" or "she's reading a book, I'll accentuate her character". For the latter, is she nerdy? Is she bored? Is she super into the book? Is she just posing the book, looking like a pinup?

All these questions will naturally guide you to the right gesture. And all gesture is, is an idea. You're essentially getting down something quick to build on later on.

Sorry for the long post, hope it helps. Feel free to ask if you have more questions.

>>7105446
If I want to draw a pose like this, how do I do that/what do I look at that will tell me how to do that?

>>7105646
dios mio el ogro de las america

>>7105661
brent eviston gesture course

I didn't want to make a thread for this and I'm beg. What are good values for these settings, and what's a good brush size to use? (I know they vary but lets just say a standard pen) Just for pumping out practice or maybe an illustration. A lot of artists I'm a fan of have massive image sizes

>>7105675
For what purpose? If I'm going in without a plan, I usually do 4k dimensions

>>7103960
completed illustration

>>7105446
more attempts, 0p perspective actually isnt that bad

>>7105658
Im indeed that same anon, Thanks for the insight.
I just started reading figure drawing today.

>>7105675
Just stick to A4 and 300 dpi.

>>7105486
Stop using lined paper. Then we'll talk to you.

>>7105446
first time trying one of these
can I get some advice?

>>7105704
draw bigger niggy
like a full page for a drawing

>>7105649
what about now

Yo what's a good app for drawing stupid shit on my cell phone with my finger while I'm sitting at the bar and don't have access to my tablet with a pressure sensitive pen?

>>7105711
idk i'm a gigabeg and i personally found boxes and cylinders usually made me worse, if you overlay it and it actually fits the reference this time then go for it

>>7105716
ballpen

>>7105446
Tips for a prebeg?

>>7105741
>>7105706

no zappa in stwive.... this is baka as fuck

>>7105446
What is it about this pose that inspired so many begs

>>7105369
>my KtD lamenting got in the OP
kek. I managed to get through it, I just need a photo of a figure with a strong cast shadow for the next project.

>>7105369
No problem, right guys?
I'm going to do the hair now

>>7105486
You are anon, keep at it
don't allow yourself to get crabbed

>>7105759
it's lacking in structure/anatomy
but it's very ambitious, I like that

>>7105759
too many f*males

>>7105752
It is the beg thread

Finished doodling with this one, I think I'll doodle some more before doing an actual piece with composition and stuff

>>7105553
I like this one a lot, feels very loose. Good choice on leaving her face mostly simple. But I dunno what's that thing she's holding, looks like cheerleading sticks or something

>>7105408
Gotta hide the bottom of her butt behind that chair, otherwise it looks like she's slipping. I think her right foot is inverted too lol but I do like the drawing, just gotta work more on the pose of the girl and perspective of the chair

>>7105428
bottom left looks really good, so does the pose

>>7105446
I played around with setting up the model with the pose for different angles.

>>7105777
why did she gain 100lbs

>>7105777
lmao

>>7105779
Uuh....she drank a potion of bear's endurance? LOL

>>7105446
need tomboy gf

>>7105790
I kneel

>>7105790
Fuuck the line work, the expression, the minimum amount of shading required to represent the forms in 3d space
i kneel
how long have you been drawing for out of curiosity?

>>7105794
4-5 years I guess

>>7105675
i use 5360x4020 for sketching, lets me zoom around the page and do big and small drawings without having to create new files

>>7105737
I can't find an app that goes by that exact name, I swear to fucking God if you're telling me to draw on a napkin I'm going to snap all your fingers and toes in half

Day 39 of drawing
having fun desu doing ktd emulating a masters handwriting I'm gonna redo this not because I think it looks like trash it's because I didn't have the mindset. I didn't know you're supposed feel like you were working with someone else's hand, I misread so I have to restart it.

The one above is the copy the one below is a memory drawing

>>7105790
REEEEEEEEEEEE PROS OUT

>>7105815
interestingly enough i did that too and I didn't feel like I was working with someone else's hand, rather that I felt like I was trying to follow someone elses' strokes. Maybe I should redo it?

>>7105818
yeah I'm gonna redo it as well, I didn't have the right mindset on the chapter 2 self critique of your projects page on the left page it says

>"Through the act of becoming another person, you will find yourself doing surprisingly fresh and interesting work" so yeah we both might have to redo it LOL

Any tips on drawing fabrics?

>>7105817
I'm mid int at best
pros could do better and faster
I had some difficulty

>>7105446
Thanks for the ref.

>>7105815
tried doing the mindset eh, I'd say there's slight improvement... Going for day 1000

does this look alright

>>7105853
lol are you doing rinotuna?

>>7105858
what is rinotuna

Doodled this yesterday. Anything about it that looks too terrible?

>>7105790
>>7105832
What brush are you using? Also nice job anon, do you have any drawing webms of your process on making stuff?

>>7105860
The Korean version of Michael Hampton who can competently paint anime girls and has a book translated into Japanese, which has found popularity among mangaka and other such illustrators

>>7105873
oh, no I'm just experimenting with different construction methods lately

https://youtu.be/5Z0SSOwIIbA?list=RDMM


Draw a redneck

>>7105869
hard round brush for sketching
defaut csp mapping pen for inking
I have this old webm of a sketch but I stopped recording because the file size became 10x larger

>>7105885
were you working from a reference or is that from imagination?

>>7105885
>webm
Thanks for showing your process anon, it helps me understand much easier on how to approach stuff.

Since the webm is old, do you essentially still use the same process when drawing more recent stuff?

>>7105886
the webm is referenced, the rest is from imagination

>>7105887
for the most part yes, but now I'm practicing doing linework more

does the body look okay?

>>7105901
posted on older thread whoops.

>>7105790
>>7105817
There are no /pro/ on /ic/
This is a high /int/ study >>7082485
This is a low, mid /int/ animu drawing >>7105832

YOU RETARDED /BEG/S SHOULD STFU!!!

>>7105908
lmao at the insecurity here

drew this

>>7105908
the only reason that's not /pro/ is because it's not rendered btw

>>7105914
Your standards are awfully low. LOL. NGMI material.

>>7105918
is this the fabled boomer hentai?

>>7105918
yikes

>>7105921
>>7105922
Have another. Look at the bird on that bitch's leg. More soul than your average animu coom.

tomfox pelvis day

>>7105908
>There are no /pro/ on /ic/
there are. /pro/ doesn't mean legendary mangaka or something, it just means professional, they can still have obvious weaknesses.

>>7105923
yikes who gave their gramps the retirement home wifi password

>>7105923
now I know I'm being baited

>>7105925
>>7105929
>>7105932
Again there are no pros on /ic/ You bitches should stop complaining and chase all the /int/ away

>>7105924
Blog?

>>7105925
>>7105929
>>7105932
Again there are no pros on /ic/ You bitches should stop complaining and chasing all the /int/ away. Who are gonna give you advices? Who do you trust more this guy >>7105790 or Pawell?

Found a Twitter filled to the brim with bunnysuit references.
Gonna draw my attempt at pic related
https://twitter.com/98IFaT2z5faYwC0

>>7105948
I'd sooner trust the anime coomer than Blobwell

>>7105832
CULO
>>7105861
Too fucking good for a """doodle""". Everything reads great. If anything I would say that the ribbon on the top of her head feels a bit flat.
>>7105885
Thanks for the recording. Always love seeing those.
>>7105924
Damn, those are great. Everything in them feels 3d and stuff.
How have those tomfox studies helped you?

>>7105815
whoa
that was the exact page of KtD I read today too

hehehe. ;_:

>>7105958
this was the reference

>>7105960
EWWWW nasty muscle humanoid ewwww

>>7105948
>stop complaining and chasing all the /int/ away
stop pretending to be retarded. Simon is back giving advice >>7098891
you think he's /int/?

>>7105965
>cute animu girl face
>awoooga
high /int/ at best. You have low standards.

>>7105947
I don't have a blog for studies
>>7105952
>How have those tomfox studies helped you?
I think they're great to train perspective/form, and really show where one's weaknesses are
I struggled with some of the more complex pelvis shapes, when the iliac planes start to flare outward and tilt

>>7105969
>You have low standards.
It's not my standards, it's the industry. He's better then a large amount of working pros. If the only pros you know are the famous ones, obviously your perspective will be skewed.

>>7105970
How much time does it take you to fill a page?

>>7105974
>skewed
You really should broaden your horizon!

Not sure i learned much by doing these, it is the next step of turning these into figures where i suck. Still better safe than sorry

>>7105957
>>7105815
based begs, soon you will draw better than me, keep it up
>>7105903
part of learning digital is trying out EVERY single brush which comes with the app and then realizing all of them suck ass (super true for CSP) and learning how to make your own. The only adv i can give you is to try setting brush size to 1000 and then trying out krita and realizing how flawed CSP is in the only thing which matters. your scribble is very good btw
>>7105900
stiff
>>7105861
coomable
>>7105750
i like it, very soulful
>>7105741
keys to drawing
>>7105572
did you draw this or are you miss-using beg?
>>7105479
that is my current strategy, suggested to me by multiple different art books. not sure if its working though
>>7105428
nice
>>7104943
i would never take any advice from tube seriously. i know modern schools do everything in their power to discourage kids from reading books, but books are the king in learning stuff: that is if its author didnt sniff his farts while making it like some university people love to do. what tube video needs 3 hours for, book manages in 2 pages.
>>7104784
you are right, i fucked up. its over

>>7105979
You should stop pretending to be retarded

>>7105982
you're using the least dynamic looking brushes ever dude

>>7105978
started with this one march 10
I don't do studies every day though, it may take another week or so

I did it I drew today

>>7105960
:_:

>>7105982
you're improving!

>>7105983
I see that you are not ready to see the truth YET! One day, when you finally git gud and unfollow 90% of your coomer artists, you'll truly understand what I meant. The hardest thing an artist can do is breaking from /int/ to /pro/.

>>7105997
is that piss

>>7106001
piss is what separates /int/s from /pro/s

>>7105369
i want to get good at the thing i draw but im so disgustingly bad at it i should really just end my whole fucking life, there had never been an artist that's worse than me

>>7106005
>don't compare yourself to others
>compare myself to myself 1 year ago
>close to virtually zero progress despite studies that should've made me at least a pre/beg/

>>7106003
You will never be /pro/ because you have low standards and big ego.

I didn’t draw today.

>>7105950
Nice bro I was just going to draw a bunny

>7106000
I said stop, oh, you weren't pretending. no more (you)s

>>7105993
you did good anon, you're gmi

>7106016
Aww baby get angery :)
Eat shit too often and you'll start to enjoy it!!!!

>>7106030
barking up the wrong tree. projecting perhaps. I couldn't name 3 coomer atists. I only know 2 because bigsexyrobutts and sakimi get named here often.

>>7106009
i can't bear always being the worst artist in the thread... kneel to the turbobegs that can actually post

>>7106033
>CSR
>Shakimichan
high /int/

>>7106045
I would say Sakimi was pro 10 years ago before coom(used to see her work on cghub) but she regressed.

>>7106048
I heavily dislike her rendering style.

>>7105832
You can't just drop this and not your blog, anon

Christ died for your sins. Stop drawing coom, start drawing love.

https://youtu.be/nZ5n4RVZWsE

>>7106062
>worship this jew demon, goy!! You are cattle, don't question things!

are there any beginner exercises to help understand perspective other than just drawing boxes?

Drawing is for the birds

>>7106075
You're falling for some simple ass bait, and I find it hilarious
>>7106065
I like your stuff anon, I just hate tripfags, so this will be the last time I give a (you)

>>7105918
>>7105923
This looks like shit you retard

>>7105982
Tell me, Pawell, why aren't you applying anything you learn? You just finished Vilppu, why won't you sit down and draw 100 figures, applying his methods? There are thousands of refs in ref thread and on ic torrent, why won't you study and draw figures if your goal is to draw figures? Why are you just rushing through yet another book, doing another page of zero effort copies?
>>7105998
>you're improving!
Kek what are you talking about, he literally regressed, he is worse now than year ago. He looks prebeg now.

>>7106116
wtf, Pawell drew that???

>>7106117
NTA but YES, that's what I've been trying to say, Pawell doesn't have to be a permabeg. He has the drive and the ability to improve. But he's sabotaging himself by laser-focusing on grinding low-effort gestures for "mileage," rather than carefully building up his foundations. He needs to diversify his exercises, or he's just gonna keep spinning his wheels. I hate to see it because I KNOW for a FACT that he's capable of so much more.

>>7106125
>he's sabotaging himself by laser-focusing on grinding low-effort gestures
Lol, he is not even doing that. He is just copying current book's illustrations. Had he been doing 100s of gestures from figure drawing ref, applying methods he learned, he'd actually improve. He is just doing pointless copies of books and doesn't retain any information said in these books and never applies it. Copy one book -> go to the next -> repeat. That's literally all he is doing.

>>7106116
Honestly Pawell needs to start posting finished pieces where he applies what he's learned to shut people up and prove that he's actually an int and his grind works, that or stop name fagging or else people will keep arguing

>>7106134
Pawell isn't name fagging, newfag

>>7106174
NTA, but you refer to him by his name and say he is not a namefag, are you retarded or what?

eww~

>>7106174
>Pawell signature on his post
>posts have a specific format that can be easily identified
>Not a namefag
What a fucking retard you are.
>/int/
Ahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

>>7105982
>coomable
Thank you. I like those mannequins. I should practice from Xiaos book more

>>7105952
>Too fucking good for a """doodle""". Everything reads great. If anything I would say that the ribbon on the top of her head feels a bit flat.
Sorry, I said doodle because it's very unfinished but it did take me like 3 hours with references. Thanks for the kind words.

>>7106174
Hey pal, you just blow in from stupid town?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyx3n3RWFLs

Any tips on making this background for my story better bros???

>using airbrush is considered extremely generic and ugly
>but no other shading method looks better
Huh

>>7106223
post example?

If I read and copy all these, will I be good at anatomy?

Which one should I read twice?

>>7106236
you unlikely but some one maybe

>>7106179
Being recongisable doesn't make you a namefag, newfag, lurk 4 more years before posting

>>7106236
>Which one should I read twice?
you read vilppu 0.5 times
morpho 1.75 times
hampton 5 times
and loomis 69 times

>>7106236
Bro just fucking pick one and draw, it's that easy

>>7105982
>did you draw this or are you miss-using beg?
yeah you can seethe ink ran out in the pentel pocket brush pen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwY30Q96HwU

what is captain caveman?

Shane Glines talks about how stiff the Filmation models were, this is like drawing gore

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AM4BTcznvH8

never adjusted the fingers

>>7106259
that W always reminds me of Chapelle's Show skit Wack Arnolds

>>7106174
>>7106240
>Not namefagging
What a dumb bitch. Cope more faggot.

>>7106240
And how about posting with every post signed with his name, which is the direct cause of you recognising him and referring to him by name, you inbred mongoloid?

>>7106240
>>7106174
>actual retardation
You're literally calling pawell by his name, how do you know it's him? I don't know could it be the fucking NAME writing at the bottom of every post? Why are you arguing about this? I need you to rub all 4 of those neurons together or what's left of them in that chasm you call a skull and get some static electricity going holy shit

>>7106248
Brenda looks like she could use a backrub

>>7105641
Is this a troll?

>>7105918
Halftone too dark

hehe

>>7105885
Gyat damn

>>7106272
Retard

>>7106379
cope https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8MZBUoQt68

>>7106379
KYS fag. Your fucking ego is humungus. Take the L and dip.

>>7106380
Yep, reeks of a newfag
First or second year?

>>7106390
absolutely seething, get mogged

>>7106224
No. It's just my experience when I tried shading

>>7106401
>>7106390
>>7106389
>>7106380
>>7106379
>>7106272
>>7106240
>>7106262
>>7106263
>>7106240
>>7106179
>>7106174
>>7106134
My brothers in moai, we need to argue less, and draw more

>Book has the head tilted at angles with line thing
>Only has the head at maybe 3 angles
Man, I hate it when they do this shit. There aren't even enough examples to extrapolate others, a lot of the time, a diagonally right-up tilted head isn't gonna give me an idea of how a downwardly tilted diagonally head would look.

anyone got any photos of figures with interesting cast shadows?

>>7106424
does anyone have a good range?

>>7106424

>>7106424
> gonna give me an idea of how
https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/bald-girl-head-pbr-cc00d96e48d145388787164ea8c4c1be

>>7105815
Expect project 3 to come out soon, gonna draw rn tho

>>7106450
>>7105982
thanks!
>>7105957
hell yeah brotha

>>7105950
>>7106442

I want to draw like this

>>7105948
do you know the artist behind these? all I can find is the game pages when I search for it
guy's style reminds me of the artist who got me interested in char design in the first place

Studied Frieren's twintails last night

Doodles from today. So sorry if I gave the impression that I was any good.

>>7105369
This was my first attempt at digital painting. Kept a lot of things simple: flat colors, no folds on fabric, painted figures over reference image to keep proportions accurate, and color picked from the reference. I also made the brush simple: anti-aliasing and opacity fading around the cursor, and solid color with a circle shape with no texture. I want to modify the brush later so the strokes are visible in the painting.

>>7106464

Bridgman first study. I really suck at trying to reproduce the drawings from memory and I don't even know if it helps with anything but yeah.
I did the 6 times drawing method, ref>then memory, and then i tried applying some of the shapes by drawing the thread pose twice. I guess it's a start for now.
I won't be doing this daily as this is really tiring and i still want to work on my own illustrations but i'll try to keep at it at least 2 or 3 times a week. I'm also thinking of skipping the head chapters since i don't see people talk about that a lot, and i've done loomis and the planes of the faces before.

>>7106506
Kek

>>7106509
nice :)

>>7106511
Holy hell, he's doing it. Good luck anon.

>>7106511
good stuff

Pose for next bunny

>>7106506
anon, just out of curiosity. Are you black?

>>7106506
This is the most grotesque thing I've seen all day

>>7106506
you're finished

>>7106506

>>7106236
This nigga doesn't rename his files to be more readable.
I... I think I'm going to vomit.

>>7106511
Good work bro

>day 1 of 30 day exercise
>draw a circle
it's fucking over I can't draw a circle

>>7106565
try again

>>7106531

>>7106401
And wrongly using terms, first year it is

>>7106469
Study impressionism artists. Specifically Monet, Morisot. Check out Richard Schmidt and learn to exaggerate lighting and color.
Also make sure you FEEEEL THE FORM.

>Really want to draw for days/weeks
>Finally get stuff together to draw and have time to sit down and do so
>Sit down
>Don't want to anymore
How do I fix this bwos...

>>7106565
wait... people struggled with drawing circles? I'm on day 40 of drawing and ever since I started I think I drew circles pretty find. I never had any issues with it

truth is keep going, you'll start like shit but one day You're gonna look back and say "what a retarded overthinker I was"

>>7106590
>implying that you are an overthinker
no, I'm not but usually beginners me included art retarded, and think too much. Sometimes we just need to shut the fuck up and draw. It's like going to a gym for a month and expecting to be jacked as your uncle who has 2 girlfriends and 5 sports cars.

You're gonna see gainz, but don't expect to be like the biggest GAINS ever.

>>7105982
pawell, wtf are you even doing, you dont even utilize knowledge from previous books

>>7106587
Don't put so much pressure on yourself anon.

You like music? Put on some shit you enjoy and just vibe through some sketches first. Gotta get the crap out before you get into the flow.

Don't worry, it's just drawing.

>>7106601
Mmm, I think the problem is that I'm not sure what to sketch. I'm very /beg/, and I'm still in the "just recreate a bunch of shit you like" stage, but I've recently gotten this doubt in my mind about the quality of WHAT I'm recreating/that I'm picking the correct things to recreate.

I think I may just be in the hole of worrying about picking up bad habits. I think your advice IS good, though, even if it's for someone who's already drawing. Maybe I'll just stop worrying and recreate SOMETHING.

>>7106612
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLqWX7onVmU

Did this quickly today, due to some shoulder pain I only gave myself a few minutes to do this...originally was gonna be an attempt at accuracy but I just kinda gave up on that quickly. I think it's more interesting how it looks different/worse in ways.

Also drew this, accidentally posted it on the old thread.
>>7106568
I think I did a good enough job, still have terrible looking lines and I struggled with her left breast (as in her left).

>>7105446

Thoughts?
Pls ignore the theme.
https://files.catbox.moe/kplolr.jpg

>>7106684
well i think you should be drawn and quartered but that's just my opinion (˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶)

I know it's no good to shirk practicing or starting, but if I'm at a point mentally today where even looking at anything to try and start drawing is putting me on the edge of a mental breakdown, it's okay to just stop for the day, right?

>>7106554
I stopped caring about "readability" the moment I installed this, https://www.voidtools.com/support/everything/

basically indexes your hard drive and immediately pulls up what you search, I use to actively not use the search function on windows because of how shitty they made it but this is amazing

>>7106669
improving rapidly!

>>7106711
I'm not satisfied yet, but I am getting more used to the process of things.

I still need to relay on references though.

I fixed the body a bit but the face still looks fucked

>>7106708
Sick. Downloaded, thanks.

>>7106736
Move the mouth up. In the future I would recommend using real humans as reference, she is not even holding that sword brother.

>>7106759

>>7106764
Better! The crease under her lip needs to come with it though.

>>7106769

I see, I see. Fat women may have been the answer for shading all along.

Not sure what I am doing here.

what does KtD 4-e mean by an interesting cast shadow, like some shadow laying over another object?

>>7106770

not sure what to do with the strap on the back arm

>>7106788

I have no motivation to draw any more. AI is getting better and better and soon will completely replace the need to know how to draw, all you need is to doodle a bit and have a vision and you will be able to create anything with AI.

How do you guys cope with that? Everytime I pick up the pencil these days I just think that it isn't worth my time and effort anymore.

>>7106799
you replaced too many of his own lines
My original idea was to not draw a single new line, just erase his own lines

>>7106809
Why make music when AI can do it?
Why code when AI is learning how to?
Why do anything creative when AI can do it?
It's simple: To express oneself and one's taste, or even just for enjoyment.

>>7106809
I just draw for the coom
no money
no likes
and for me it doesn't make any difference if AI is capable of doing better
I just like to draw big titty anime girls as a hobby

>>7106809
I draw for fun, why would I give a shit if AI can do it better

>>7106816
>>7106821
>>7106823
total cucks, but sasuga beg thread

>>7106809
I will destroy AI with my bare hands, so you can keep on drawing and having fun!

>>7106809
I've used AI on my own drawings and plan to use it in the future when my skills are up to snuff.
Here are the issues with AI.
1.Legal it may be illegal to make money with existing models in the near future through expanding copyright laws
2.The way to circumvent this is to create you're own model based of your work
3. AI lacks consistency even if trained on a specific character. So things like comics and animation are impossible for a one man operation unless you have the skills to correct the image or it maybe possible to use 3d models with low noise in the model to get the desired animation looking effect.
4. These video models from open ai like sora will never be released to the public and will be used exclusively by large corporations to pump out slop.
5. AI can only realistically be used for concept art for now and the next 10 years in the public market.

what kind of armour would work best

>>7106853
Why does she look like she has AIDS

>>7106821
If that's yours that's quite nice Anon, good job!

>>7106865
thanks bro!

>>7106864
why do you?

I read chainsaw man recently

Do you guys usually draw faces after the body?

I found when drawing a figure that drawing the face is always tricky

>>7105517
>>7105658
I dont understand this fucking pose and its pissing me off, im fucking retarded
why is she supporting herself when she's leaning FORWARD? Why is that arm there? Why is the arm not on her leg? I'm gonna kill someone im so angry

>>7106612
Don’t worry about it at this point, even if you pick up other artists’ bad habits you’ll realize it when you study fundies.
>>7106686
Yes. Don’t know if this is relevant to your situation but it might help https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsSpeGvJwLM

It izzz what it izzz

>>7106883
Did you learn anything from tracing that?

>>7106890
I'm not tracing it anon

>>7106892
save yourself the effort and just trace it then

>>7106893
No thanks

>>7106892
>Superhuman uberpro sense of proportion and measuring
>Garbage at literally everything else
Usually tracers are like this but I guess you're the sole exception!

>>7106886
She’s supporting herself with the arm that isn’t visible and her upper body is upright in space. It’s coming forward relative to the lower body but since she’s leaning back on the other arm it’s upright.

>>7106528
gonna sleep on this one, maybe I will find something odd with once I when I wake up

>>7106892
You really think someone would do that? Just go on the internet and tell lies?

this was a bad month for improvement desu. didn't study color as much as i said i would. that finished piece attempt will have to wait until april i guess

going from sketch to lines is also very hard, lines always look shitty

>>7106883
Here, I redlined some of your anatomy mistakes

>draw a (for me who's been drawing for a week) really nice Android 18 face with pencil
>scared to go over it with the pen to make it look clean
How do I beat this mental block? I did some pen work yesterday and my lord it's so wobbly and clearly scared. Should I just ditch the pencil for a bit until I feel confident with the pen in my hand?

>>7106909
Have you heard about our lord and saviour, CSI?

>>7106913
I am now researching CSI. Annoyingly, all of the videos and resources I'm seeing seem to be either digital or about gestures, which isn't terribly useful for me. Appreciate being steered on the right track though, thanks.

>>7106898
>>7106903
>>7106908
Isn't tracing drawing directly over the figure?

I put a copy of my gestures/construction over the figure and draw over my original gesture/construction

I do architecture, but draw on the side as a result

>>7106931
looking at this makes my head hurt

>>7106931
I wonder if the tile lover anon would fap to that

>>7106931
I really love those ornamental architecture stuff. can you do those?

>>7106926

>>7106931
>center vertical is slightly off
it's over

>>7106931
An engineer somewhere just woke up in a cold sweat

>>7106910
I'm lowkey invested in this. I want to se where it ends. Keep going, anon.

>>7106937
>>7106908
are you the same guy

cause you've made me kek twice

also I guess I probably don't need to draw every line on the face that I can see

>>7106572
I drew an entire page of lumpy potatoes.
Is there a trick to doing this? How do you make an actually perfectly round circle?

>>7106940

>>7106938
Kek

>>7106936
Yeah but takes some serious time. Nothing I can show right now

Here's moar

>>7106951
Moar etc

>>7106910
i redrew it a bit to show what I woul dpersonally do, keep in mind I didn't feel the need to redraweverything.
ganbare anon

>>7106926
wtf are you doing

>>7106958
tracing apparently

>>7106950
You need to color without using only just airbrush... it would improve the drawing immensly if you used some cell shading and then worked in some soft shading as well.

>>7106953

>>7106960
I was using gouche, and airbrush for shading. I don't normally paint in CSP, I use Rebelle mostly

>>7106531
No, did I break the rules or something?

>>7106506
What's the reference pic?

>>7106971
it's mia khalifa porn

>>7106973
Gross

>>7106511
>He actually did it
Now I have to copy Bridgman to deliver on my promise. I hate you.

>>7106528
>>7106901
I feel like you waste Karin not showing off her ass. She is the ass bunny for a reason

Sup beg, my rare post with actual work instead of study. Its WIP.

>>7106951
check
https://archive.org/details/grammarornament00Jone
https://archive.org/details/cu31924020576355
>>7106909
tracing paper
light table
scan and print 2nd version for ink
stop being a pussy
>>7106889
very nice froggies
>>7106780
try
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ac/7b/ee/ac7bee8a6f25f980048cae486b326d9a.jpg
or some scene with forest where trees are projecting shades all around
>>7106587
>>7106005
less thinking, more drawing
>>7106501
cute!
>>7106315
it has weird jagginess and pixel artifacts, probably cause you draw on too low resolution (resize your canvas to be bigger). nice thot and damn that lighting i kneel
>>7106250
man your stuff is so consistent and clean i though you are posting artwork from book or something. i kneel
>>7106076
https://archive.org/details/PerspectiveMadeEasy
>>7106116
to be fair, the vilppu book never said: now go and do 999 figures from photo refs. it only said to draw every single day and to never give up. and i am kinda applying what i learned so far. My older work? that is all 1:1 zero thought copies. Visually impressive, but cannot say it helped me. in hindsight i would work through the beg books differently if i were to do them again. back then i was clueless beg.
>>7106082
nice birbs
>>7106600
i kinda do, but i also respect the new book workflow. thats why i am doing them in the first place: to test out different workflow / mindset and experiment. sometimes i wish there was a sage with better advice than "just draw" and then when i am drawing anons are mad at me yelling: NOO DONT JUST DRAW LIKE THAT, JUST DRAW (differently)

if pawell ignored my stuff am I GMI?

>>7107005
the perspective on that blue tank is fucked

>>7107005
>to be fair, the vilppu book never said: now go and do 999 figures from photo refs
He said it on his Gestures Lecture on New Master Acsdemy course.
To be spercific "We went over hundreds of these poses on our live drawing session"

YOU DID NOT LEARN SHIT FROM HIM. STOP LYING.

>>7107005
Hell yeah, king! That's what we like to see. Mix things up a little.

>>7107005
Dang thanks anon

>>7107003
I dunno what to say to you man, Drawing bunny girls non stop made me appreciate the hips and legs zone. Also I thing I gave her a fair ass.

>>7107031
>made me appreciate the hips and legs zone
based

>>7107041
These read beautifully. Great work.
>>7107031
Oh well I meant the pose. Girl is usually given a ass focus and drawn from behind.
Lovely work anyways. I can't stop looking at the place where the leotard stops and the hip starts (around ribbon)

>tries to draw a simple box from life
>fails miserably even after checking things multiple times
Today is one of those days

Guys, Pawell has finally posted work,prepare your popcorn because the coping, seething and malding will be hilarious

>>7107018
>>7107065
Tell me your art is as shitty as his without telling me so!!!
AhAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
Imagine SIMPING for PAWELL AhAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH

>>7106926
hey I'm on day 40 of drawing but Keys to drawing reccomends you start off with the huge shapes first like the sillohette but you wanna make sure you capture the sillouhette, try and see the curves and idenitfy the lines of CSI

CSI means if I remember its the 3 types of lines in every drawing or drawing in general.

Like I said I am a day 40 begineer so i could be wrong

>>7107072
>I fucked up the bottom left line

>>7107068
Even the beggiest of beglets are higher on the foodchain than nodraws, sorry pal.

>>7107072
I haven't read Keys, only watched Proko and read Edwards' book on the right side of the brain.

I might try focusing on the big shapes and silhouette first, thanks. I always started with the head but I think that causes it's own issues.

>>7106188
>>7106315
Fuck you ~zzz~ >:[

normally when i post here i'm told i've made no progress but how about now...
https://files.catbox.moe/6ejwx9.png
surely i'm improving, r-right?

>>7107077
>nodraws
Cope

>>7107100
lol, Iove it

>>7107112
Why are you drawing sexy little girls?

Which ones the new one? I'm not even playing with you.

>>7107125
That's your mic drop? A COPY of half a dude in a white void? Pawell is doing a whole, original scene.

>>7107152
>Nodraw reply
OK no draw Pawell simp. I accept your white flag. That's a 10 mins copy to prove that you are a nodraw, not to dunk on Pawell. SAD no draw beg git his feeling hurt awwww.

>>7107131
it's a boy, does that absolve me?

>>7107158
Anyone can do it. Show me something original.

>>7107166
MOGGED

>>7107166
>Shitty copy
Just as expected from a Pawell simps - /beg/lets that don't know better :)

>>7107166
LMAO. Wait a minute.

>>7107079
trial and error my nigga what makes you comfortable is what matters

also day 40 drawing coming out soon
>Verification not required

>>7107125
>>7107166
>smt original
Here for you. I am working on this sketch. I am not laughing a Pawell. I am laughing at you for simping for Pawell. LMAO. Unlike you, I draw for 3-4 hours a day instead of sucking the local autist.

>>7107187
Hey that looks really cool! But there's nothing wrong with trying to build people up. Pawell is only improving this slowly because of his bad studying habits, I'm trying to help him break out of that. A little positive reinforcement, you know?

>>7107112
the torso area looks less confused and the cow girl has more depth. good job anon, keep going!

>>7107176
top is day 3 of drawing bottom is day 40 of drawing ngl im happy rn

>>7107220
(btw drawing is unfinished my brain is like fried rn so I'm taking a break and then going back to drawing)

>>7107202
I also tried to help him. I am the retard who have been posing as Soda and spamming this thread with Vilpoo figures >>7095092. I want him to stop making half-ass studies and rethink hid learning approaches. It was all in vain. I accept that some people will never change. Ever court need a Jester. Pawell will be the Chris-chan of /ic/. I will always be here laughing at his lack of growth.

>>7107094
Only ever (you)s I get is your seething if any. I need to figure out way to change it :]

>>7107220
the improvement is so extremely easy to notice its actually kind of inspiring, you really are getting better

>>7106809
I don't even post my art, I just draw shit I see in my dreams for better recall and sometimes I draw completely schizophrenic violent acts to sublimate my feelings of anger. I'm never showing that shit to absolutely anyone but anyway my point is why the fuck would I mind AI when those are my reasons for drawing.

>>7106676
I really like your arstyle, the way you draw the face makes her give the vibe of a hot milf and it makes my cock tingle

this is basically a doodle/draft. but can i get critique?

>>7107233
t. doodles the same shitty anime garbage in every single thread looking for attention.
kill yourself.

>>7107259
You first bitch.

>>7107259
Bitches like you do be killing people's drawing vibez.

>>7107262
this stupid autismo shits up every single thread with his same face anime garbage scribbles.

You people should chill out a bit. So what if a guy here doesn't improve? it's not your responsibility to tell people what to do. If you give advice once and shit goes nowhere then calmly stop giving advice to that person and move on with your life.

>>7107264
I will do anything I please bitch.

>>7107266
fuck off back to your discord server and stay there, troon.

>>7107268
I don't have any discord bitch. Fuck your troon as no draw crying bitch face.

>>7107268
I will shit the next thread and your troon discord faggot will seethe.

>>7107268
You are nothing but an IP, a insignificant object in my view. Pawell is more intereting than your crab ass niggerfaggot.

>>7107268
You want some beef with me nigga? Some beef you shall have.

>>7107268
Shut up you cock sucking faggot. Go suck your Pawell's senpai cock.

Troon is seething. lol.
Stay mad, beglet, keep drawing the same anime garbage and crying you can't take commissions.

>>7107275
LOL said the discord troon projecting. LOL

>>7107275
What did I say about sucking your senpai's micro penis troon? Shut up and suck it.

>>7107275
>taking commision
LMAO. Post your commision work bitch.

ugh ok today i start again for real. i got depressed after wacom wiped out all my custom program keybinds but i'll live
i'm gonna take an hour or two to try and copy a reference i like the best i can tonight, then i'm gonna start practicing fundies again. i WILL learn to anatomy, and then i'll learn to anatomy in perspective. i'm gonna do it bros. if i can just do it once, i can do it a million times

>>7107275
t. troon

You guys sound so far gone, holy hell. This is the culmination of 20,000 years of human language development?

Now I'm real fucking mad.

>>7107258
Cute Lanaya

>>7107280
You have a great attitude, that shit does more for you progress that you can even imagine, GMI.

>>7105774
sovl