/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>7102833
Some western / indie publishers of Manga:

Saturday AM ( https://www.saturday-am.com/ )
> Digital indie magazine, seems to be on the up-and-up
> Open submissions for long-form series; also distributes series currently being published elsewhere.
> Regularly publishes one-shots, making it a good potential outlet for already-finished work.

Oni Press ( https://onipress.com/ )
> Technically indie, but at this point large enough by comic standards to be mentioned in the same breath as other publishers.

Antarctic Press ( https://antarctic-press.myshopify.com/ )
> Longtime large-indie publisher of OEL / manga-esque books.
> Seemingly taking submissions at present if http://www.antarctic-press.com/html/submissions.php is anything to go on.

Yen Press ( https://yenpress.com/ )
> Started out as a small indie publisher of original / Korean material, and has grown reasonably popular since.
> As of 2016, it is also one of the western arms of the Kadokawa Corporation, with Kadokawa owning a 51% stake.
> Editorial inquiries can apparently be sent to yenpress@yenpress.com, however, they apparently are not open to new submissions at this time.

Viz Media / Viz Originals ( https://www.viz.com/originals )
> *The* western manga publisher.
> Currently in the exploratory stages of setting up an English label.
> Submissions are open and several books have been announced. However, progress on the label seems to be moving very slowly.
> Still might be worth a shot anyway.

Shrine Comics ( https://shrinecomics.com/ )
> Small indie manga publisher
> Seemingly attempting to make the transition to physical volumes
> Allows crossposting to other sites

Iconic Comics (https://www.iconiccomics.com/))
>A bit like Oni Press and Antarctic Press
>A small publisher with a focus on indie works with manga inspiration

>>7102835
Other open comic publishers:

Dark Horse ( https://www.darkhorse.com )
>Dark Horse still welcomes your submissions, and all submissions will still be reviewed, just as they always have been.
>All unsolicited story/series proposals must have a full creative team on board. Writer-only proposals will not be reviewed.

Image comics ( https://imagecomics.com/ )
>Image Comics only publishes creator-owned material. They do not contract creators; they’re only interested in publishing original content for which you would retain all rights.
>Image Comics publishes creator-owned/creator-generated properties and THEY DON’T PAY PAGE RATES. Image takes a small flat fee off the books published, and it will be the responsibility of the creators to determine the division of the remaining pay between their creative team members.

Drawn and quarterly ( https://drawnandquarterly.com/ )
>Please email a low resolution PDF with at least 20 pages of comics and cover letter to submissions. Do not send dropbox links, scripts, or proposals. Please read our submissions FAQ.

Fantagraphics ( https://www.fantagraphics.com/ )
>submission page: https://www.fantagraphics.com/pages/faq

Top Shelf Productions ( https://www.topshelfcomix.com/ )
>Regarding submissions, we're easy. Just email us a download link of what you'd like us to review. NOTE: We cannot accept cover letters, plot synopses, or scripts unless they are accompanied by a minimum of 10-20 completed pages (i.e., fully inked and lettered comic book pages).

Additional publisher lists:
> https://jasonthibault.com/definitive-list-comic-publisher-submission-guidelines/
> https://writingtipsoasis.com/best-independent-comic-book-publishers/

>>7102838
Current Contests:

Zenon Magazine:
https://comic-zenon.com/article/entry/2023/05/09/132801

Magic international manga contest: https://www.shibuya-productions.com/en/magic/magic-international-manga-contest.html,73

4-koma Contest:
https://kitakyushu-mangataisho.com/en/

Mangano:
https://manga-no.com/mangano_award_1st#rules

/mmg/'s very own anon-led anthology: /ic/onography
https://discord.gg/QYnFBves7V
https://forms.gle/d3a2Cwwd44sJYyqv9

Additional community added Resources:
Mangafonts: https://mangafonts.carrd.co/
Hiro Mashima YT: https://www.youtube.com/@mashimaCh/videos

How (You) can help /mmg/:

> Know about a contest or a publishing opportunity? TAG THE OP and post a link.
> Have a new resource? TAG THE OP and link / mention it for inclusion.
> Have a link / DL for a mentioned resource? TAG THE OP and mention what you're supplying a link for.
> SCREENSHOT / PASTEBIN effortposts that help you for posterity.

how do you get this end result screentone texture
it looks amazing on online can someone replicate it

>>7102859
Are you trying to make this a meme?
>>7102875
Reminds me of Oi

Are 20 pages chapters every 4 months just to practice basic panelling and flow worth doing if I'm primarly trying to get good (as in, pro/advanced level) at art first and then starting making comics full time later?
Also working on writing in general as well, I hope to be able to make more ambitious projects by 2027/2028.

>>7102833
Is there anywhere I can find the manga in the OP? I really like the art style

>>7102859
I don't know my Modeseven even bothered using a screentone in this image, it's so highres yet the image itself is inherently low res, it makes no sense, it just looks like a digital grey

>>7102907
It's literally named in the last line of the OP's post as well as in the filename. C'mon dude.

>>7102907
looks like it's on the internet archive, just 4 issues
it's Adam Warren's Bubblegum Crisis run, the same guy who did the american Dirty Pair comics and Empowered

>test to see how much you browse /pol/

>>7102903
when are you gonna be finished that one-shot you said was almost done?

Can battle mangas be posted on sites like webtoons / tapas? I could of sworn there was some TOS rule about no violence or something? But can’t seem to find it now.

I feel like these threads hit bump limit faster than the beg threads now.

>>7102926
The only real mention is that of "graphic" or "gratuitous" violence, but they leave that intentionally vague so they can pick and choose what they want. It also depends on the genre your manga is - they seem to grant more leeway if it's a genre that violence is to be expected (as opposed to say, a regular BL/GL story). Blood seems fine regardless.

I straight up drew a dude getting obliterated and no site has ever cared, only nudity.

>>7102922
Another 2 weeks and it should be done, had to study for a job interview those last few days.

>>7102926
Wings of Darea, Rococo, Aecast all have battles and violence in them, and all those anons post them. I have violence as well, and I asked the same question, but it seems like violence isnt an issue
Its the sexual stuff that will get you. Unless it's man or tranny love

>>7102928
Not close to beg threads, but yeah much faster. I'm fine with it, they still last almost a week

>>7102934
Alriight, good luck. I'm excitedly waiting

>>7102928
>>7102942
I just take it as /mmg/ coming together as a community. Given how slow /ic/ and especially /mmg/ has been in the past, it's a little like walking into a comfy bar for a break.

>>7102926
My comic has death, child sacrifice, impalement, murder and violent battles with blood. The only thing webtoon got mad at me for is boobs and butts.

>Human Body Bad
>Destroying Human Body Good

Satanic

>>7103008
Gooks have weird morals. Koreans are like Japs from 600 years ago, but with way more homosexuality

>>7103021
How is that possible? Before the Meiji era, Japan was the most openly gay culture in human history

>>7103067
you misspelled Greece

>>7103078
Their biggest warriors were the cross dressing homo Achilles and the bisexual rapust Herakles. Greeks claim they'd only fuck boys between their thighs, but condemned actual sodomy. Nips openly sexualized and celebrated young boys and sodomy was considered acceptable and manly. You are right, I'd say Greeks are as gay as the Nippons.

>>7103067
I said "more homosexuality". I'm no jap expert, but you're telling me ancient Japan was gayer than this?
And there is a difference between openly gay, and this faggy ass shit

>>7103085
Where are the old balding men?

>>7103085
>but you're telling me ancient Japan was gayer than this?
Yes
https://youtu.be/bzG4UOaGy7M?feature=shared

why is everything either romance or porn

>>7103090
No matter if it's in Asia, the Med, or Europe, all of this faggotry has always been pretty much exclusive to the ruling class. Strange they all have the same ancestry.

>>7102833
Okay I need to know, does anyone know where to get a grain filter texture like in the OP for Krita? I've tried the basic filters and some others online but none have that look of mildly worn newsprint paper, and all the tutorials or texture packs I've found are for Photoshop or Procreate. Pic related is the closest I can get but it looks too inauthentic to me.

>>7103087
Catamites are more of a western thing
>>7103090
>japs having lady boys during the edo period was gayer than weimar Korea
Agree to disagree. I would argue that the Romans were gayer, with their eunuchs and hedonistic degeneracy
Either way, this is getting off topic.
>>7103122
Well put

>>7103131
Japs considered every young boy of a certain age as a "lady boy" and they were considered the peak of sexual attractiveness. How was weimar Korea gayer? It makes sense how bishi men are still so popular in both countries

starting out on a new comic

>>7103153
Wait, what happened to the old comic? Is it finished? Been busy drawing.

>>7102952
Speaking of community, how many regulars and newcomers do we have?
>Cowboy/Porn anon
>Oi
>Rococo
>Altarusia
>Aocast
>Wings of Daera
>Indras Net (art only)

I've also seen :
>Shadow Division Files
>The Hotel That Stole Time Away
(But they seem to only post webtoons, and are in that new general mainly.)

I know there are some people working on their first mangas, like that dragon killer one, and broken hand anon.
Oh and that anon who posted that food one shot for medibang
Feel free to chime in anyone if I've missed you, or you got something on the horizon

>>7103153
>>7103164
Crap I forget to mention you. Yeah your little worker dudes and the giant eye/hand overlords

>>7103153
Were you the guy who was doing that "doctor" and that tower coming out that dudes head?

>>7103157
I think it's done for now, if I come up with an idea for an additional chapter I'll come back to it of course.
>>7103169
that's me!

2 pages lefts
1 hard panel and 4 easy ones in the 1st one left, and 2 hard panels and 3 easybin the next one, if i'm lucky i coud post the lineart later today or just maybe tomorrow

>>7103254
2 pages here as well anon. 1 page has 20 characters to draw, the other has 1.

>>7103164
I have a comic, but it's not a manga so I just browse instead of posting.

>>7103320
>The general thread for Manga / manga-styled comic-making,
>manga-style illustration
>and related comic work.
>That said, everyone is welcome here.
Post a page

>>7103121
That's just the trend right now. You can make any theme you want.

>>7103164
Me. Though I normally lurk than post. I got some inking done today for the new chapters. I post on a ton of different sites, but mangadex seems to have a positive response. Oswald The Overman.

>>7103326
You got me

>>7103320
Pyw- uh I mean post a page, anon, lol. Would like to see.

>>7103358
This is what you were worried about? Anon you're fine.

>>7103121
Because the world is currently under a concerted psy-op attack against forming healthy relationships and bonds in real life, and the unkillable human need for it is using media as a surrogate

>>7103356
The beginning reminds me a lot of Grim Fandango. I like it
>>7103358
Looks manga enough. Dont be afraid to post more often, looks good

Not being able to keep a fucking schedule is actually killing my chances of success. It's the one and only problem I'm having and it's the one thing corporations value most. I don't know how to weaponize my autism and just do the fucking work at the same time every day.

>>7103405
Unfortunately, the answer is always going to be just doing it. Maybe try coming up with a mantra to chant to motivate yourself like Kamehameha? You have more power over yourself than you think.

My comic called the search. What do you think?

>>7103416
I chuckled at the joke. Other than that? You have good handwriting. Maybe practice on drawing though

>>7103415
>You have more power over yourself than you think.
Really needed to hear this. Thanks

>>7103426
Thanks I will.

>>7103429
Yeah no problem, that's actually what I chant to myself when I need it but I felt Kamehameha might be more fitting of the thread lol.

>>7103125
That looks like a canvas texture, no? What you're looking for is a paper texture, since comics are drawn on paper.

>>7103164
>Cowboy/Porn anon
>Indras Net (art only)
That's the same person.

>>7103458
>That's the same person.
Really? I didn't see the similarity. Guess I learned something

>>7103471
Yep, really.
https://twitter.com/octagone_comics/media

>>7103458
Oh wait I'm dumb lol, the example used the wrong texture. This is the actual paper texture I intended on using, but doesn't it still look incorrect? These are the only textures for Krita that actually work the intended way a texture should which is why I'm struggling to get something that works. Everything else I can find online is just a basic image overlay with no change in the texture of the page with most changing the color of the page.

>>7103483
That seems way too strong.
Anyway, sorry, can't help you. I've never messed with textures and I don't use Krita.

>>7103164
don't see how it matters
a lot of new anons seem more focused on connections rather than the work
not saying it's one or the other, but cataloging every artist in the thread seems obsessive

>>7103494
Maybe he's banking on someone getting big so he can say he's got connections

>>7103483
The texture is coming off a bit strong, not going to lie mate. It's actually distracting me from Yusuke himself.

>>7103494
That's what the zoomer how to be social media influencer guides tells them to do. Network alot and start beef with larger influencers in your field to get noticed. They don't realize that being a social media influencer and being a comic artist are two incompatible things. They also don't know how to work hard and are constantly seeking shortcuts for everything.

>>7103164
Right now I'm working with an indie publisher to get my first book out.
>>7103405
Everyone's process is going to be different. If you're feeling unmotivated then change things up.

>>7103536
That's some nice linework, anon. Respect.

>>7103535
>Network alot and start beef with larger influencers in your field
ISHYGDDT

>>7103535
>start beef with larger influencers in your field to get noticed
It's all so tiresome.

>>7103546
>>7103556
It's the reason everyone hates Betz the Apocalypse Knight guy, but maybe he got smart and toned down his beef starting. One can only hope.

Just this page and two more aaaa lets goo

>>7103494
>>7103535
>>7103517
I just like reading mangas. I've read all of stuff posted. I've been drinking though, so I can see that comes off a little strong.

>>7103536
Im excited for yours, Im pretty sure you posted that dude doing summersaults down some dragon

>>7103630
Will altarusia girl get a new outfit at some point?

>>7103656
Yep. Probably in the 3 arc.

>>7103630
They have section 8 in hueland?

>>7103164
newcomer, I mostly lurk. All I have is some sketches, character designs, and my plot outlined for my first one shot try, need to actually write the script, but this isn't the only project I have on the go

>>7103633
well it is the manga MAKING general, not the manga reading general
I'm sure some anons appreciate your enthusiasm, especially the ones living off their work, but I want to avoid /mmg/ developing the sort of personality circlejerk some other communities have
otherwise welcome, enjoy the manga, share your thoughts or critiques if you have them
and if you're the guy making new OPs early, knock it off, the board is slow, it can take days to get to page 10

>>7103729
>and if you're the guy making new OPs early
No, I thought we just had 1 guy making these threads.

>>7103734
there's been a lot of OPs
sometimes more than one at the same time

>>7103734
Not the anon you're responding to but I was the OP of threads for a while. A couple months(?) ago someone starting making new threads early. I agree with that anon you're responding to, they don't need to be made so early -- it's basic board etiquette to avoid clogging the catalog up with copies of a thread for long, but it doesn't matter that much and OP drama is a particular kind of gay general shit that I don't want to perpetuate so I never brought it up.

>>7103729
>but I want to avoid /mmg/ developing the sort of personality circlejerk some other communities have

I don't think this will happen (at least not with the regular anons); we just share our work and love for making comics and manga here without any expectation of fame, money, or whatever from this place.

While the other communities were killing each other over drama, deluding themselves with dreams of fame, and closing themselves into discord groups so they can scheme against the other discord group or target someone they simply didn't like, we just kept drawing.

/mmg/ has helped me a lot to improve, and I like this place because anons will read your work without any bias or commitment (well, almost at least). I swear, there are some places where it doesn't matter how good you are; they will treat you like trash and will only dare to read and say something good about it if you suck their balls. Anyway, the artistic environment has always been full of those people, but I didn't expect the comic niche to be insane like this.

>>7103754
hope you're right
the drama carryover from other boards has me paranoid

>>7103761
Remember that one week or so when some guy tried to split the general into webcomics and "real manga" or whatever? It was a big ol' drama until people got sick of it and just stopped responding to the guy, he eventually fucked off and everything went back to normal.
Drama feeds on people replying. Even when retards try to hijack shit, if you just ignore them they eventually lose interest. The key isn't to argue with them and ride their shit, it's to tell them to fuck off and then ignore them after that. The more you push against them, the more they push back, the more the drama grows.

>>7103754
>>7103761
as long as you don't let betz gain a foothold, the general will be fine

>>7103763
some people have nothing better to do than engage in bullshit, it's those people I'm worried about
not saying that one guy would do that, but you can see what I mean

>>7103763
Yep. When he created his own general I created the "oficial" one with a green blood panel and we let him fuck off with his own thread where he ended up talking to himself. I remember we calling him fred.

>>7103754
Thanks for saying this, I actually like this board, and mmg in general. I guess most of the drama was from /co/ which I've never been to, and from the sound of it I'm not missing much.
>>7103764
The guy who was complaining about him was so much more annoying imo. betz(i assume is the AK author) had like 3 posts between 3 threads. I dont doubt for a second he's a gigantic faggot, but the autism about him was off the charts. I think everyone has been warned, hopefully we can drop it

>>7103773
>betz(i assume is the AK author) had like 3 posts between 3 threads
He spent two years in a one sided shitpost feud with another anon from hyw. The anon he spent two years shitposting against was coincidentally SWATted on New Years day. Betz is genuinely deranged, and always looking for new anons to feud against. Don't say you weren't warned.

I'm worried that my character design philosophy (spiky and circular shapes, varied and elaborate costume designs, old JRPGs/classic mecha/western fantasy influences, slighty more manlier male characters than what you usually see in modern japanese entertainment but still not Hokuto No Ken/Capeshit level) could be perceived as "outdated" and "wannabe old anime" by the young people who are more used to the more minimalistic, uniform, "grounded" and less polished character designs in series like Chainsawman, JJK or AOT.

As someone who is mostly influenced by mid 90s to early 2000s art styles but also digs good modern art styles like Made In Abyss or, from what I've seen, Gachiakuta, are there any actual noticeable differences in character design philosophy between current and older manga, or is it more related to the overall setting and tone of the story out of all things?

>>7103491
>>7103529
Right, my monitor must be weak because I tested on my phone now and yeah it's definitely way too strong at 60-70%.
I've set it at 30% which is probably the closest I'll be able to get for now. I'll try experimenting more myself so I don't clog up the thread with a million iterations of the same drawing. Thanks though!

>>7103913
I'm gonna need to see an example from your own art.

>>7103913
I'm far more inspired by 80s and 90s anime and manga too. There's definitely people who are into it.

>>7103913
There definitely is a noticeable shift in overall character design now then there was in older manga. That said, I don't think anyone will criticize you or call your work "outdated" for wanting to look like a particular style. If it's style that YOU like and works for your manga, that's all that matters. Go for it, and don't budge for anyone.

I think one of the easiest ways to have your work look generic and fall under the radar would be to do what you just described and tailor your designs to a more "modern" audience. Not to mention, it would be an extremely obvious way to have your work look outdated in a couple years. (Which is all the more reason to go with the style that you want, since everything is going to be outdated eventually anyways)

>>7103358
Jiie! I'm glad to see you around these parts. Hope you stick around.

How do I go about designing outfits for a magical/fantasy setting? Or in general just really fantastical outfits that aren't too grounded in reality

What sources of fashion should I look to? To reference and mix and match together to come up with interesting outfit designs.

For example how would one design this outfit? Where would one source reference material?

>>7103970
It's literally just history + whatever shit you made up. That costume is a good example. It's just archaic japanese garb + a weird belt/spikey pauldron thing. Look at almost any fantasy costume design and you'll see it yourself, it's all just history + a bit of spice. If you can get more creative than that, go right ahead.

>>7103970
A lot of outfits like those are legitimately just a sort of fantasy spin on historical Japanese clothing. Especially since Inuyasha is a bit of a fantasy period piece to begin with.

Just look at world history and historical outfits from different regions, and add your own embellishments to them.

>>7103164
I'm also here, but I just don't post much

>>7103763
almost drove me off, I thought it was like that all the time

>>7103394
Thanks, I've never played it, but I've heard it's a great game. Skeleton game right? The current arc I'm working on is kind of yugioh~esque.

>>7104187
Great game, but it's more the plot. Once you die, you need to cross the land of the dead to get to the after life. It's a 4 year journey.

Depending on how good a person in life you were determines on how you get there. You can afford a sports car, an cruise, or a special train ticket.
But if you suck, you get a walking cane, a compass and a "good luck"
>>7104180
Link?

>>7103546
>>7103556
That's the Betz mo and reason he is hated in every general and discord he joins. Don't expect a leopard to change its spots.
>>7103358
This is nice art. What's the comic called?

I know many of us probably wonder what an actual anime adaptation of our works would look like, but do any of you sometimes wonder how a videogame adaptation would work? What genre would it be?

>>7104251
I've got a few comic ideas bouncing around in my head, but I probably see two of them more solidly as games than manga, but one would be a JRPG, and another would be a side-scrolling Metroidvania.

>>7104256
Which anon are you if you don't mind me asking? So I can try to imagine the characters in an alternate setting.

>>7104251
God Hand remake, with romance options

>>7104251
I would actually prefer a game over a show.

>>7104265
>>7104269
Anons which mangas are you lol.

>>7104271
I dont have anything released yet, I'm 12 (inked and toned) out of 14 pages for my debut
>>7095583

Chapter 4 is out. This one is more action based so there is no mucho texto.
https://tapas.io/episode/3131005

>>7104275
Nice action scene altarusia anon, as well as the reveal at the end!

>>7104275
Finally

>don't even post in the thread
>still get brought up
Absolutely rent free, thanks Fred (the guy who wants to start drama here).

>>7104282
Fuck off with your drama you dumb faggot. This is the only attention I will give you. DO NOT fuck up this thread like you fuck up everywhere else you post. You are a writer-only and are not going to gain fans by shilling AK here. Go away.

>>7104285
>do not fuck up the thread
Buddy, I didn't even post here until a minute ago, and you know that I do draw, however I don't share it here as it's cartoons. Go be a faggot somewhere else and don't ruin the thread.

To everyone else, sorry that this faggot has latched on here, but I think he was already here before I got here.

>>7104288
Just ignore it, dumbass. Stop shitting up this thread with your personal vendetta. holy shit these anons were right, you are insufferable. Glad we were warned I'm advance.

>>7104288 #
Just ignore it, you autistic dumbass. Stop shitting up this thread with your personal vendetta. holy shit these anons were right, you are insufferable. Glad we were warned in advance.

>>7104285
>>7104294
>Glad we were warned in advance.
I really want to leave this drama between you two, but this is some obvious samefagging bro

>>7104299
Fuck off Betz

>>7104279
Thanks! I Can't wait to start the next chapter

>>7104275
I would try and push some of your poses and stuff a little bit. Seem a touch ridged. I like some of the visuals, like the swirling thing (attack?), and maybe make some of your speed lines a lot more bold, because they're a little soft. Also that last line;

>Wanna a bite?

Still, I like it. Main girl a cute.

>>7104316
Thanks for the feedback.Oh yeah let me fix the last line

>>7104275
Attacking the ghosts and whatnot here reminds me of the graveyard with the Poes in Ocarina of Time.

>>7104251
Given the "strategy" aspect of how the girls are assigned, probably something either in the vein of Fire Emblem/Unicorn Overlord or XCOM. Hell, even a metroidvania could work too.

>>7104251
I'd want the Oi game to be some kind of hybrid of multiplayer party brawler like super smash and rhythm action games like guitar hero or DDR where special moves are executed by hitting rhtyhm patterns on specific beats. Maybe each map would have a different beat as the background music and you can fight your opponents and execute stronger moves by hitting long combos on beat.

Alright, i'm about to post the next pages of what i'm doing

Now ib4 i just wanna say that i like my sense of humor, but i don't consider myself a funny guy, but even with that, when i'm speaking people start laughing, but when i try to make a joke people look me weird and in silence so please take that in consideration, because i wanted to make the next pages funny

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>>7104410
And last, i have done 17 pages like this since march 10th, is that a good enought time?
As i said last thread i would like to fully finish this between the first half of april or by may 2nd

>>7104410
>I'll give you $20
Kek

>>7104251
horror rpg or platform

>>7104422
>actual spritework
Oh sweet. How long did it take for you to make this?

I really need to get better at drawing men. It's painfully obvious how much I prefer to draw cute girls I think, not that I'm exactly an expert on that either.

>>7104425
Less than one hour I guess. I just wanted to toy with the concept.

>>7104427
Boy do I have a thread for you.

>>7104405
cool dragon
>>7104427
do a comic/manga about cute girls

>>7104403
Well, it was awkward funny, and that pretty much matches the description you gave yourself. Being able to tell how you are perceived is an important trait that many people dont have.
>the park allegations
I liked that.

>>7104427
I'm exactly the same.

>>7104274
I could see yours being a side-scroller beat 'em up in the vein of Double Dragon. Something about your artstyle just screams that genre.

>>7104358
>Given the "strategy" aspect of how the girls are assigned
I'm assuming you are Aecast anon?

>>7104422
Ever since that one anon from a previous thread attributed your comic to Touhou, I can't help but imagine it as a danmaku shoot 'em up

>>7104478
>I'm assuming you are Aecast anon?
Yeah, that's me. Maybe I'll draw a mockup of a potential game adaptation one day for fun.

>>7104427
>It's painfully obvious how much I prefer to draw cute girls
Yes haha YES
>>7104478
>Ever since that one anon from a previous thread attributed your comic to Touhou
Really? I don't remember that anon, but anyway, I was heavily inspired by it. I thought about what a western reimu would be like, and I created Madalena. I gave gesche the same dress as Rumia.

>>7104478

>>7104427
You can always draw femboys, isn't?

>>7104251
/mmg/ crossover fighting game.

>>7104581
>character select screen is done globe style like Marvel vs Capcom 2 or grid style like Capcom vs SNK 2
>most characters are blacked out to encourage you to unlock them
>this is true love we're making/take you for a ride intensifies x 100
>oh boy oh boy here we go, I'll start off by playing as the Oi! bardic cat for funsies
>earn enough "panel points" to unlock a new character
>it's a character from Oi!, Roccoco, or Aecast
>do another run, unlock a new character
>it's just another Oi!, Roccoco, or Aecast character since they have larger casts

CAPCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

>>7104227
https://demonsfunnyburger.cfw.me/

C'mon anons, please tell me how i did in the matter of time, 17 pages in 10 days is a good time or not?
At this rate how long it could take me to finish it, there's 54 pages in total

>>7104443
Is not so much of a dragon, that's mostly a helmet for a monster

>>7104446
>I liked that
That came from a time when people thought that my buddy and i were a couple, just because we were sitting in a park bench

>>7104618
did you like it? if you did then that's what really matters. if you don't like it all that much then it'll be harder to convince yourself to keep going, and others telling you it's good isn't going to be enough to keep you moving in the long run.

on my end, i think 17 pages in 10 days is definitely great for anyone practicing art, so don't feel as if you can't spend a bit more time on clean up and refinements. your lines are fairly messy which isn't an issue if that's the style you're going for, but i think it would be worth it to try putting more focus on using the lines to make clear forms and then letting the mess be a flair in addition to that, because based on the pages you posted the lines tend to get mixed into the characters.

still though, if you can do 17 pages at all i'm sure you'll have the motivation to continue and keep growing, so nice job making anything at all! don't push yourself to keep up this pace, though. don't procrastinate, but don't focus on how fast you work if nobody's paying you to do so.

gotta get myself together, pick up the pace
7-8 pages left

>>7104618
17 pages in 10 days sounds pretty good
keep up that pace, say 2 pages a day, you could finish the rest of the pages in 17 days about

>>7104589
Dana's cat is way too OP to be a player character, it would work well as Dana's ultimate SMASH attack though. There's an anon named Admiral Pizza who made a hyw comic crossover fighting game. Dana, Aideen and Starseal as well as several other HYW characters appear.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xotD1wLrgM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBHjPPBGcsQ

>>7104618
In theory, yes anon.
17 pages in 10 days a great accomplishment, it just I think we have a difference in definition of "finished page".
This in the 2nd page of my prologue, and I haven't added sound effects yet, so its still not done, and it took about 2 days.
So if that's really all there is to your pages, nothing but a while void, then I would say 17 pages isn't too amazing, but I still think it's a very good work ethic.

>>7104618
I deleted my response because it felt like I was comparing myself to you, and that is exactly the opposite of what I want to do here.
So I will ask this, these pages are 100% done? No backgrounds or screen tones?

I decided I would try to do an inverted panel
but then I started to realize I have no great idea how to handle it
the two white pens I have aren't exactly the best
guess whiteout will have to help a lot
but this is a start

>>7104869
inverted and upside down. A bold decision!

>>7104873
I don't know why it went through upside-down
let's see if this goes through correct

>>7104881
4chan wipes the exif data on photos so people don't inadvertently dox themselves.

>>7104881
Don't use your image viewer's rotate function, open it in Photoshop then rotate it and re-save it.

>>7104892
>>7104895
understood for future reference

What you think of his work
>>7101058
Is he GMI

>>7104935
It's solid for a first attempt. There's readability problems, but overall it's far from bad. If he keeps making stuff and getting practice he could probably make some pretty nice stuff eventually.

>>7104935
I kind of have to echo pretty much what's already been said. Positives is that there's some potential and promise there. And getting a little one shot completed always earns extra points. Negatives are that the art is pretty mediocre, and that and the somewhat confusing paneling means it is a bit difficult to infer the narrative.

>>7104232
Thank you, I'm glad you like it! The comic is called Mister Man-Eater.

I have a website for it but I would recommend reading it on Comic Fury for now until I can get the site to be more polished.
https://mistermaneater.thecomicseries.com/

>>7105154
Hey maneater anon, I just clicked through your comic (well, as well as I could, anyway). Cute characters, but why do you hate drawing backgrounds lol.

>>7105158
Sad but true tale of just wanting to draw character interaction. I'm currently working on chapter 4 and there's a lot more than usual, I promise lol. Doing more backgrounds was my New Year's resolution.
I've toyed with the idea of making those SketchUp backgrounds to reference from, but 3D modeling and I don't get along.

>>7105165
I also just noticed that you sort of started making your own merch. Out of curiosity, what store/vendor did you partner up with? Was the process difficult and/or expensive?

>>7104403
>when i'm speaking people start laughing, but when i try to make a joke people look me weird and in silence
iktf
kinda hard to tell what's happening in some pages, will probably be more clear with backgrounds

>>7104881
love the hatching, cars need work but your faces are very expressive
negative panel looks cool
what kind of pens do you use?

>>7105194
I used Vograce for the keychain. It wasn't so bad in terms of price (like $1/product I think), but that's also because I goofed and ordered the decorative part only, no chain. I ended up putting everything together myself while watching some TV, so it wasn't that bad. If you're looking to save extra money, it's handy to do it yourself.

>>7105219
a sakura PN and 03 for character and background lining respectively
detailing is done with a ballpoint pen and Tombow fudenosuke
the panels and speech bubbles are Kuretake Zigs
then, depending on the size of the area, the fudenosuke and zigs also take care of the blacking work
normally I'd use a sharpie for big areas like that panel, but the paper is too thin to do that, knowing I'll be drawing on the other side
the detailing for the inverted panel is a Sakura gelly roll pen and the whiteout is a pentel presto, the best whiteout I've ever found

>>7105240
>pentel presto
the whiteout to get shit done
I've tried gelly rolls on ink but it never worked well for me, even if I let the ink dry it would smudge and turn out grey

>>7105260
I think this is the exact video where I found it
I saw how Fujita and Takahashi Tsutomu would use it and thought "I need that"
then I bought some crappy ones, then knew I had to get the sane exact one and went hunting for a set of three of these guys.
I never wanna live a life now without them
I know what you mean with the gelly rolls too
I have that and then this other pen, it's supposed to be like a white permanent marker was gonna use it for the outlines of these cars
but I tested them to see if they'd even show on the ink
the gellyroll was kinda light but I figured I have no other choice so we'll see how it goes
the other pen was just smearing the ink, so it was just making grey
so the whiteout had to take it's place
did about as good a job as I expected too, but damn is it smooth anyway

>>7105260
I love those whiteout pens, that brand specifically. Once I tried them for the first time I never touched regular whiteout brushes again. An absolute upgrade.

>>7104892
No kidding? I remember when people on /b/ used to rip through that stuff back in the day. Glad 4chan did something about that

>tfw you look over the pages you "completed" and see how much of it feels flat compared to professional work
Just finish and do better next time, just finish and do better next time

>>7105465
Yeah I wont dare compare my stuff to anything professional, I just compare it to my earlier pages, and make sure I don't make the same mistakes again

>>7105465
Comparing yourself to a pro needs to be done in moderation. It's great to see what they did for XYZ portrayal, but too much and you start having unnecessary stress. You're comparing yourself to somebody who has done this for untold years and likely has 2-6 assistants... whereas we're all over here doing fly-by-night solo operations and posting on a Tajikistani goat herding forum. Remember to be kind to yourself and your work.

>>7104581
/mmg/ version of Poker Night at the Inventory.

bad crop job on my part, but just wanted to show the proper scanned version

>>7105691

>>7105691
Getting some Wangan Midnight vibes here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FT_wba0GUsE

There's something really special about seeing your fully realized page next to your initial sketch / rough draft. Even though my finished pages are far from top tier, the difference is just so stark.

>>7105740
I love wangan midnight's style, especially the art and presentation of Maximum Tune
there's an arcade near me that has MT5DX+, I love playing it especially
I'm just generally looking through Initial D and Wangan for inspiration here, plus as a bit of bolstering the number
it just feels a little bullshit that there's like 3 big racing manga and two of them are by the same guy
I wish I knew how Shigeno and Kusunoki got into drawing cars, I just can't imagine how you go about practicing them like that

Last panel of 2nd to last page!

Finally on the home stretch

Last panel of 2nd to last page!
Finally in the home stretch

>>7105819
your art is really fun. Cant wait to see what story you are cooking

>>7105822
Thank you! It will be violent!

>>7105744
Having a finished page turn out well is honestly the biggest motivator.

>83 pages of nearly non-stop violence storyboarded
>still have to storyboard the resolution to the chapter

I know I made a commitment to myself to wrap this plot arc up for good with this chapter but oh my goooooooooooooooood.

>>7105893
Are you remaking the final fight in SW Episode 3 anon? Jesus

Been drawing for about two years now, and I think I've made a huge improvement from when I started. Currently working on my series "Onslaught" and I've just started inking the first page. Any thoughts?

>>7106044
Not bad! A few things I would do would be to add some shadow under the chin, and some light caressing the body on the right.
Here is my terrible edit.

>>7106073
Wow, there are some things that you don't realize until you acutally visuallize it.... Thank you for taking time to edit it! I'll work on it right now. I appreciate your help!

>>7106080

I finally figure out how to use to this particular ruler, but I'll note that in 2.3 or 2.4 range that this ruler was actually broken, and wasn't fixed until update 2.7. The difference was that the exterior vanishing points cannot be scaled, or disengaged once you moved one of them snap to it for some reason. Although it is possible that there were some sort of setting that I broke on my copy at some point that causes it.

>>7106085
That's a ruler? Jesus I am getting old.

>>7106097
what do you mean? perspective ruler its been a thing for over 15 years, it force the input to conform to various vanish points. that particular type of ruler have fisheye feature which uses redial curves that extended towards opposite vanishing point instead of straight lines.

>>7106112
I've only been digital for a year, I had no idea they had things like that. That's actually amazing to me.
But I will ask this, if it wasn't working for X amount of updates, why not just learn vanishing points?

>>7106115
I do, but rulers just a convenience feature for me and I am mostly a "eyeballing it" school of perspective.

>>7106118
Oh its' you!
Forgive me, I gave up on perspective and vanishing lines a long time ago.

>>7106120
well, looks like we are in the same school of perspective anyway.

>>7106123
Exactly. The school of "well this looks good to me" dagnabit
Are you in aussie timezone btw?

>>7106127
nah, west coast, I just work overnight.

>>7106118
fuck you're awesome. fuck fuck fuck. FUCK. I want to draw as well as you

>>7106132
Haha, no kidding? Im California, but I've been drinking and was going to bed and looked up timezones and figured you were a kiwi or something. Love your work mate, we've talked plenty on this anon board. Hope to get some criticism from you when I release something this month! Take care,

When I did my outline sketches/writing, I didn't realize until after I finished how whiny I made the MC. I feel like I've gotta rewrite and redraw everything in the middle, which is a pain. I've already finished pretty much every other page I won't have to change. Need to plan better next time.

>>7105913
Had a lot of tough bad guys, lol.

>>7106132
more examples of your work?

Something I'm working on

>>7106366
Looks pretty good for the most part. Especially the hair and the detailing on the second panel. Only two things I can say are to try and make the word balloon stand out a little more--its so small that it really gets lost. Part of that is because it creates some tangents with her hair, I think. Second is...her face looks very flat with very little emotion in it. The eyes need more volume to them, or something. As it stands, it sort looks like it came straight out of a "How to draw anime" book from from like 2004.

>>7105194
Not that anon, but I might end up using this site when I end up making some keychains and stuff. I've seen some other people use it, and the results seem pretty good.

https://melodycharms.com/

>>7106373
It's supposed to be a "..."
>tangents with her hair
I'll outline it post, good call.
>The face lacks emotion
I mean, what else do you want from it? It's a slight worried look with a hint of sadness. It's not meant be extremely exaggerated.
>The eyes need volume
Fair point, I think it's because of the straight lines used.
>"How to draw anime"
It's supposed to me reminiscent of Clamp's art style, specifically Chobits. Which is an extremely early 2000's looking series. I usually don't draw in this style. This is what my normal artwork looks like.

>>7106133
Which anon are you if you don't mind me asking?

>>7106366
>>7106399
you should make the bottom third of the cat-eared girls face a little shorter proportionally. it looks a little too long there dont you think?

>>7104489
I would love to see that

>>7104506
>I don't remember that anon, but anyway, I was heavily inspired by it
Ahh, maybe my memory's bad and I was thinking that someone compared it to Touhou, when you said you were inspired by it

>>7106366
Looks very good! Gives heavy Keito Koume vibes. I'm assuming that small word bubble is going to be a mutter or other small phrase so it's fine being that small. Once you get to it, I would recommend choosing a good font for it to make it clear that it's different from a normal dialogue bubble. The linework and detailing also look very good. The only thing I would suggest is that the shading on her eyes seems off. Usually on anime eyes, the darker part is toward the top while the lighter parts towards the bottom, but you have it reversed. If it's lighting that's causing this, it would seem redundant to have an accent light on top of the already lighter part. I suppose it could depend on eye color, but in monochrome it looks kind of weird.

>>7106454
The eye thing is stylistic for the character, it being from the bottom was meant to make her have a unique look. 2nd shine is just a weird quirk. It does look a bit weird now that you say it.

>>7106399
nta but I like your normal style better, but I get it, mangas are japanese

I was humbled seeing a woman artist who draws immaculate men, and a woman she drew is technically well drawn but woof lol. It's not different from guys who struggle with drawing men. I wonder if bisexuals get better range drawing both genders.

>>7106120

A friend recommended that I switch from Medibang to Clipstudio. Is it better?

>>7106607
yeah, but don't pay for it, they don't deserve any money after they jewed out

alternatively use krita

>>7106615
>yeah, but don't pay for it
Dont worry my friend got the pirate version

>>7104427
I started my comic just to have an excuse to draw cute girls

>>7106654
I started several comics just to draw cute girls.

>>7106133
I am flatter you think so, but if you are writing a comic, don't wait until you feel your art is good enough, because storytelling is a different skill set than illustrating it, and you need to develop that skill by telling many different stories. your art skill itself just need to be effective enough to communicate it, you can learn what you need when you found out what you lack. I often feel like i realize it too late and stubbornly stuck on my magnum opus, and before I know it, baggage from my soiled life had weight me down making it difficult to walk when I needed to run.

>>7106137
looking forward to it, although I don't know if I'll have anything useful to say when the time comes, I will give it some thought.

>>7106270
what type of examples?

>>7106615
>>7106618
Is it easy to pirate from torrents? Any good portables available?

>>7106693
how fucking retarded are people these days?imgine not knowing any pirate sites, imagine paying for digital products that you can easily steal

I was gonna make this a spread, but then I put down the panels on one side and realized it just wouldn't be one

>>7106730
oh for the love of god it was a vertical picture!

>>7106721
People keep telling me to buy it but if it's easily piratable I'll just use a torrent. I assumed it was like modern Adobe products and needs to be constantly connected to the internet with your subscription user name to work. Which version of CSP is best to pirate?

>>7106749
everything is easily piratable all adobe products are piratable, how fucking new are you to the internet bro

>>7106693
>>7106721
While this guy sounds like a total faggot, he's right. You need to work on your piracy skills

new panel!

>>7106749
I wasn't trying to say that you HAD to buy CSP, just that if you or anyone else were too lazy to torrent and somehow had money to burn, that CSP went on sale 2-4 times a year or so. That's all.

>>7106817
If the newest version of CSP is available on the high seas I'll go with the torrent version. Thanks!

Yesterday i took a break since i did the last page that i posted in one sit, so my hand took the toll for that

Today i did this, so i will need 2 advices
1 screentone for make him look redhead, like deep red, almost crimson
And 2, as some anon said, hands aren't my specialty, so if anybody knows how to use that thing from csp that makes 3d models of hands, would give me any tips?


Also i saw some replays, but as i said i took the day off

>>7106607
Use whatever you want if you're just fucking around or doing this as a hobby. If you want to do this professionally and/or with others then yes, CSP is the industry standard for comics nowadays. Which is saying a lot because that means it had to surpass Photoshop's Adobe money.

>>7106887
use this for your screentone

>>7106887
>1 screentone for make him look redhead, like deep red, almost crimson
The problem with your question is that there's all types of redheads. Even something like "dark red" is going to have variation, and that's just talking about natural redheads and not including people who dye their hair. Besides, if you're doing everything in monochrome then what you're really asking is for a darker grey. So just pick something that'll help you get to that color.

>>7106887
>>7106918
or this

>>7106922
I mean this kind of red


>>7106918
>>7106923
I don't know how to put them into csp, could you tell me the settings (the point form, the angle, the % and the line) so i can do it on my own?

some cheering fools

>>7107011
In the area in front of the cars on the road, why is there what looks like "explosion" or some kind of visual effect lines? Is that supposed to be water on the road getting splashed around, or the after effect of another car, or...?

>>7107017
yeah I thought it would look a bit weird, but I couldn't help but wanna keep it
it's the back of the main guys' scion, like the camera is just off its trunk getting the effect
and in turn why the copilot is looking up rather than over his shoulder, like he's looking through the rearview mirror as the sierra falls back

>>7107019
Oh ok that makes way more sense in context.

>>7107019
>look a bit weird, but I couldn't help but wanna keep it
This imo is an important thing to do in art in general. Same reason I kept >>7106550

Do your thing anon

>>7106120
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZzLzeoju-c

>>7107069
Big hands! Big Feet! It's the life I chose!

>>7107055
I'd just rather make a couple small blunders and make the greater work progress than just get held up thinking of what I'll decide is an inferior fix

>>7107076
is he jerking off?

>>7107093
Yes.
Yes he is

>>7107103
I didn't understand, he masturbates looking at dressed women???

>>7107113
no, he has a fetish for wooden fences

>>7107113
He is a horny brat

>>7107113
Well this page isn't finished yet, but it should kind fill in some blanks

>>7107113
Dont we all?!!?

>>7106721
>>7106749
>>7106752
>>7106832
Keep in mind that these softwares very likely have malware. Pretty much most torrented software does.

>>7107164
I bought CSP when it was on sale. It was like $20-25 and now I have it forever, across any computer. No viruses and full support, plus everything is in English. I refuse to pay a monthly fee for shit like Adobe, but paying once for something I use literally every day isn't bad at all.

>>7103008
It's been like this for thousands of years
Wanna talk "satanic" as if catholics in the dark ages weren't drawing people being mutilated, but would burn your house down for drawing anything sexual

>>7102833
In case anyone's wondering about the font being used in most of Adam Warren's Dark Horse run comics (sans Empowered), there's a Blambot font called Out Of Line Pro that matches OP work.

>>7107484
>catholics
>not satanic

>>7106432
Not complaining, but what does a candid photo of Chloe Moretz have to do with this?

>>7107103
Oh shit, it's you. If I remember correctly, you wanted to know if showing that naked guy would get your comic taken down from Webtoons? Now that I know the context of him jerking it to a bunch of girls in bikinis, I would say yes.

>>7107567
Haha yeah there is zero chance I could post this on webtoons. (It's also the most lewd my comic ever goes)
I have edits for this into, putting his shorts back on, and imply he's only a peeping tom. Hopefully that will get by, but who knows. Worst comes to worst, I will just have to cut this prologue from certain sites, and just keep the full uncensored thing on pixiv.
irrc some anons mentioned they linked their uncensored versions in their webtoons post

>>7107596
>irrc some anons mentioned they linked their uncensored versions in their webtoons post
Webtoons outright encourages you to do this sort of thing in their guidelines. Payment processor rules, App store requirements, and S. Korean laws when mixed together make for the weirdest puritanical cocktail.

>>7107484
???
now this is just willfully being retarded,what chatolics painted was mostly stories from the bible and interpreting that as drawing people being mutilated is retarded, adam and eve were always painted nude because they were nude in the story, they just werent usually displaying their private parts because there was no reason to depict that
>but would burn your house down for drawing anything sexual
you are talking as if there was a large ammount of people who could afford to do art at that time
im not even chsristian but faggots like you who are so anti religion they just make up stupid bullshit to hate on christianity are retarded, go shove your Menorah up your ass jew

>>7107626
>Webtoons outright encourages you to do this sort of thing in their guidelines.
Good to know thank you!

>>7107484
>burn your house down
It was her

>>7107632
Sorry, I forgot to mention that your instructions to get it elsewhere should be slightly vague. Outright saying "go to this competitor webtoon site" is gonna get in hot water. It's all so stupid but it's the game you have to play with any comic host that's Korean-based.

>>7104251
Mine would definitely be one of those fighting arena games that's essentially ninja storm but reskinned

>>7107117

Do you guys find that taking a break actually hurts productivity? Like, the longer I go without one the more autistically driven I become but as soon as I touch a video game it gets completely reset.

>>7107987
Brakes are mandatory for me, or i will lose my arm again, so in the breaks i do rehab exercises, take a walk, cook, a lot of things, today i also did the laundry

They are not necessary bad unless you use them to avoid keep goin

>>7107987
No breaks, no game, only draw.
My GPU was acting funny, couldn't play anything for months. So I just drew (Adobe still worked)
Got a new card last week, but I don't have any desire to play anymore. Making art progress is more satisfying that ratting in tarkov (barely)

>>7107987
Can't say I relate. At some point I get burnt out and need a break. Or sometimes real life stuff comes up suddenly (family, job emergency, chores, etc.) and it's like a mandatory impromptu break lol. But you do you man, we all work differently.

2 pages left to hit the half of the first chapter... how can i post the full first half if already posted 17 pages?

I know that it may not gather much interest, but i would like to post the full first half and get some opinion on how the story is going, also i hope that the anons that offered some proof reading and correction a long time ago, are still here to help me a little

>>7107997
Are you not able to maybe make an imgur album or some other equivalent and link it here? 17 images or more is a lot.

and with this, I just have to typeset and chapter 1 is done

>>7108017
Never best dead....?

>>7108019
so some arcade machines in japan, including Wangan Midnight Maximum Tune, use cards to store data for more committed players, not like dragon ball heroes or mushiking style, but general cards across certain games
when you register the card you can put a little memo on it
so on mine it's Never Best Dead, and working on this I figured it would be a good little motto for him
his skill is only good for when he's alive, never best dead

unfinished page (no screentone)

>>7108088
Looks good anon! I personally dont like that anime style, but it def has an audience
3rd panel looks the best, 4 panel is also nice,

But the 5 panel is rough. Your Proportions are all over. The shoulders are broad, the hips are thin. The abdomen is very long, the chest/breast is like flat, and huge at the same time. And the neck looks very strange, you need to close that gap between the neck and hair. Also what's in her mouth?

>>7108017
https://medibang.com/mpc/episodes/202403240925348860014487452/
Lights and Any More, Chapter 1

time to kick it up a gear and work on a one shot or two along with chapter 2
but a touch of rest first...

>>7108097
If you're starting a serial why would you split your time amongst that and one-shots? Don't you think you should focus on the series as your priority?

>>7108100
because I'm a lunatic and this has always been the way I choose to torment myself
I've been working on manga for most of the last 5 years and I rarely feel comfortable when I'm not just burying myself in work
I took it too far once, and this is part of my finally breaking out of that horrid slump I threw myself in from there, but 2 or 3 one shots added on to this is hardly anything I couldn't do
I'm also sadly the same kinda person as someone like Tezuka, that being that I think of tons of ideas and unfortunately feel a need to fight the clock of life to do it all
only difference is I don't have a company behind me to help

>>7108107
I've seen your work over the years, and no offense, but I don't think this "work on a million random one-shots at a time" method is leading to improvement. I think dedicating all of this time and energy into a single work would be more beneficial to you right now than continuing to split your attention between 3 different projects. Dedicate all that effort into pushing yourself to make one really good comic at a time, because from what can tell, you've only been pushing yourself to make MORE stuff, rather than BETTER stuff. Sorry for the unsolicited advice.

>>7108042
Japan once again gets all the cool stuff, and we don't get anything like it.
Anyways, I absolutely LOVE that idea behind that motto. That's such a clever and simple way to make that character so uniquely "you". The fact that that motto actually makes sense within the context of the character is an added bonus.

>>7108111
you're fine, I've been told that kinda thing before
but I don't really see what the difference would be
I've tended to believe in the simple idea of getting better by doing, if 1 is good, 50 will be better
I am better than I was, but it is still lacking in places, even I know that
if I focused just on the one thing maybe I'd see way better improvement
but I'm also the kinda person who's sorta, scared... of the idea at this point
I have a way I like my stuff to look, a way I'd like it to look as it goes
but I'm scared that as I move along it'll slip away from what I want to something I don't like
maybe it's like, I dunno, a sorta self sabotage
I'm unfortunately super aware of these types of things normally anyway
it's part of why I'm doing certain stuff in this work, just force myself to try things and see where it goes

>>7108125
the arcade I go to has the cards since they employ a lot of the machines
for my own enjoyment, I've effectively made the persona for wangan of a self villainizing guy who just wants to race the fastest of the fast, so the motto applied well
I really like it so I wanted to apply it here too

>>7108132
>I've tended to believe in the simple idea of getting better by doing, if 1 is good, 50 will be better
That's definitely true to an extent. That extent, I believe, is the point at which you're focusing purely on volume. Focusing on volume too much is bad, focusing on quality too much is bad. You need a balance. The whole point of making a lot of stuff to get good is to practice the thing you want to be good at. Right now, you're only practicing juggling making a bunch of throwaway one-shots at once. I assume that throwaway one-shots are not your end goal here, so I recommend changing up the approach.
>but I'm also the kinda person who's sorta, scared... of the idea at this point
That's a good sign you should probably tackle it then. If you're just comfort-zoning by spamming yourself with one-shots you won't have to feel bad when none of them are really any good. It's scary focus on one thing and make it as good as you can, because it shows your current limit, so you're avoiding it. I get it, but it's a challenge you need to face if you want to improve.
>but I'm scared that as I move along it'll slip away from what I want to something I don't like
And that's another thing: I think you're far too married to aping Tagami's style. What you do now, and what you've been doing for as long as I've seen you work, is make a poor imitation of a much older artist's work. I understand having a style you like, but you're not letting your own style develop. Maybe I'm wrong here and you're not actively trying to stick closely to Tagami's drawing style, but it's clearly where you started and in 4 years you haven't branched out very far at all. I think this is not a good thing.

This is why I recommend focusing on one thing at a time, whether that's a series or still one-shots. It feels like you're avoiding having to come up with your own solutions to the problems one encounters when trying to make something the best it can be. But I say that from the outside looking in.

>>7107987
Breaks are mandatory for productivity, even if those breaks come in the form of just not doing anything for a while or going to get something to eat. Personally, I prefer to read or listen to music in my downtime, but I rarely play videogames anyway. When I do play videogames, it's when I don't intend to draw for a while; they have this habit of engaging all parts of your brain and putting you in "gamer mode", increasing your reflexes and knowledge of crime statistics, but shutting out that part of your mind that's productive in other ways for a little while. I use videogames to wind up in the afternoon expecting to draw in the night, or vice versa, but I never go right from one to the other.

>look over draft
>dialogue is stilted and is clearly trying to push the plot forward
Hmm…

>>7108167
maybe
as far as Tagami goes, I've always juggled the relationship of his work to mine
always something I'd come to terms with as I learned from him
some months, about a year ago maybe, I finally stopped looking so much at his work for the sake of just staring at it
the further issue is that I'm just sorta hardwired to do things the way I learn
so while I'm pushing to do it I find it hard to just break away from what I taught myself
it's my biggest shortcoming as an artist I've come to feel

lets go chapter 5

Is there a Webtoon/Tapas sort of site for comic/manga page format? Seems those two are primarily for vertical web toons

>>7108488
There's pixiv. Although it's a Japanese site. They have a manga / comic layout upload option.

>>7108172
This might sound weird, but I think you improve at drawing if you take breaks from it. Your brain basically cools down from thinking about drawing, which allows you to view your environment a bit more differently. As a artist, I look at thinking and pretty much draw it in my head. But if I stop drawing, I can actually look at my environment a bit differently and appreciate it more, which in the long run, helps with my visual bank.
Simply having a break will help improve your ability to draw imo. You allow your brain to stop processing things a specific way and when you come back to drawing, you are not only more fresh but more expressive.

>>7108702
I find this to be true. Every time I take a long break from drawing (week or two), I come back better than ever.

>>7108702
>>7108719
I'm the opposite. If I take an extended time off It feels like I have to relearn everything. That being said, going outside and doing stuff that isn't drawing is definitely important for writing and creativity. A lot of my character writing is inspired by local wildlife.

>>7108702
>but I think you improve at drawing if you take breaks from it
This is 100% true scientifically prove by me, i could see skips of level on my drawing skill when i used to take long breaks (before starting with manga)

By the way anybody knows when they could update the csp client again?
I hate the new ui and i have been opening from the files, now i wanted to use assets, and they hide it behind a corner button
I could guess why they hide the other, but why hide assets too

>>7108735
Well extended breaks can be bad. I'm thinking of breaks as in a week. But generally not thinking about drawing and going outside helps a ton with your skills.
>>7108797
>>7108719
Yeah, it's a weird feeling. It's like your brain is catching up when you come back after a break.

22 of 54 pages of linearts done, i still don't wanna post it because i wanna see if i could rephrase some few things in a better way

>>7109180
Fair enough, can you share a panel at least?

>>7109180
I'm at 17/40 myself, slow going. And I feel there's a nonzero chance I may readjust some of the ones I feel like I finished.

>>7109368
>chance I may readjust some of the ones I feel like I finished
I end up doing this on my second pass of lineart review for every chapter for a few panels. Don't feel bad about it.

>>7109215
I have posted 17 pages already (18 actually, but the last one i posted without text)

>>7109368
That's exactly why i finish the draft first, i knew what i wanted to say so the panels where the hardest thing to organize, i might get new ideas here and there, but the thing is that if i had to make a drastic change, i would just keep it because i don't wanna change anything in between of the spreads

>>7108433
Is that the ghost loli?

>>7109481
At the time I thought I finished the draft, but when I looked over it, there was a lot of felt I needed to change. The beginning and ending are pretty much fine, it's the middle that's sticky. What I think I actually need to do is knuckle down and write a script in a doc, or something first. For some reason I felt like I had to write as I was drafting.

>>7109541
Yes

>>7109611
I mean, the one from chapter 1

>>7109613
Yeah that's what I was asking about

having another "what the fuck am I drawing" moment
not going to censors myself, I'll stick with my original plan, but I'm wondering if this kind of self-doubt is common for comic writers

didn't really plan to draw much today
then realized I'd be better off practicing the cars a bit
so first attempt at a Palisade for chapter 2, quite a goofy little thing I made it

>>7109636
Yes, of course it is.

>>7109637
You should probably be be using fills more instead of this rough scribbling style of rendering. Scratchiness can still work but most cars are pretty shiny and sleek (even banged up old shitboxes) so what you've got going on just isn't going to convey that. It can still be done pretty simply with some fills + spot hi-lights (which you can create either by not filling them in or with whiteout after the fact).
The general shape is pretty off too, but that can be forgiven with more confidence in the stylization and better rendering. You mgiht want to give just tracing a ref a couple of times then move on to applying that to check-and-draw practice. By my understanding most of the time when it comes to drawing cars, like in Initial D, the authors often just had an assistant trace a photo from a catalog anyway.

>>7109650
I unfortunately don't have catalogs or assistants
the scribbling is just to convey that it's a black car, this is just practice
the shape is the biggest concern, I thought it would be fine but then the inking started, just gotta be more conscious of it when the real thing starts

You ever just forget how to draw a face? In this case, I realized I made the eye itself look too big, which means I actually learned, I didn't try to shrink the eyelid. But then the face structure felt all screwed up, so I had to redraw that anyway

>>7109658
>I unfortunately don't have catalogs or assistants
But you do have the internet, and you just said you had some time to study.
>the scribbling is just to convey that it's a black car, this is just practice
Practice of what? Half-assing a drawing? I'm sorry, I don't understand the purpose of even conveying that it's a black car if you just wanted to practice the shape of the vehicle. And given how you render it will be how you convey that shape, I'd say it's still important to get that rendering right. I read your chapter and you only even bothered to try rendering a car a little bit once, and it was with a similar scratchy hatching look. I think if you should aim a bit higher in the next chapter.

>>7109650
I guess it's easy to assume good writers don't struggle like this
just because I don't see it, doesn't mean it's not there, right?

>>7109636
I love that phase anon, that feeling is the core to live the necessary human experience of the indomitable human spirit, when we go from
>it is what is it
To
>there was a point were we should have stop, but let keep going and see what happens
And finally we get to
>fuck it, we ball

>>7109669
the first part was really a joke
obviously I use the internet for reference
as for why I'd bother doing the scribbling, yes it's just practice for the shape, I could have just left it at that, but I wanted to put the black, it serves no purpose, just my own interest.
as for rendering, as far as I can see in series like Initial D or Wangan Midnight, if a car isn't usually stationary or a giant focal point to a page, they usually have body lines and values removed for the sake of speed in work
I'm having trouble thinking of the way to say this next part without it feeling stupid, but
well, there's the argument that of course actual manga artists will have deadlines that tend to necessitate those subtractions, and no I of course don't, there is the potential expectation that I should take advantage of that to render the cars better all the time, but I don't personally see the need to do so
I like the subtracted look, and I don't have the tones or general car drawing ability of them or their assistants to make it like quite as good and sleek, but I'm figuring it out
this isn't like, "I've been drawing shit cars for most of a year, now let's do something to make them good"
I'm doing this work as "I never really draw cars, but having the ability would be nice, let's do something that'll force me to do it and make it passable as a starting point"
of course I plan to do better with each coming chapter, but I think we might be on slightly different ideas of what better might mean
sorry for being so wordy, I'm not super great at explaining myself really

>>7109748
Nta but it seems like you are just kinda doing this as an exercise or a practice or study, as opposed to actually trying to put something out to be published. Am I reading you wrong? Because I think people are judging you very critically, when it doesn't seem like you are being all that serious

>>7109762
for this work no I'm not being too serious, not like I don't care in general, but more like, the point is not to care
what would be the quickest way to explain...
I used to be a real freak with productivity in manga, like 5 pages a day, with the same quality here, relative to my ability at the time of course
like working 2 or 3 things at a time sometimes
in mid 2022 I even worked on 5 works at once
as pointed out earlier, working like this prolly doesn't make for the best work, I wouldn't even a lot of them were good looking back at them, and I tend to get criticized for my writing over my art as a result
early 2023 I let this insanity get outta hand and tried to work on like, 20 things at once, I tried my damndest to make them all good too, I got them all sketched, like 300 pages in total over the course of about 3 months, even had some lineart inked
then I crash hard, realizing I didn't think a lot of it was valuable, trashed about 240 pages of work, anything else was super short nothing or stuff I wasn't willing to let go of no matter what
ever since I was having trouble working on manga and whatever I did manage to do felt lackluster in comparison
someone elsewhere recently mentioned getting a little sketchbook to just make a comic they didn't have to care too much about, alongside their actual work, and I thought it would be a good idea to go along with, so here I am with this
I had the thought "I'm not good at cars, let's train it by doing a racing story"
so I started into it, and I'm not quite as fast as before, but I am putting in the effort I used to before that crash. it's the first time I don't feel like I wanna drop it cuz it isn't good enough for me
maybe not this itself, but it could be a stepping stone to get me back to making stuff I would happily try to get published

>>7108433
lorem

>>7109770
Gotcha. Yeah it seem like you're talented enough to make things picture perfect if you wanted to. Sorry about your crash, I had 1 and took a few months off, felt 10x better afterwards.

Going to sleep, i hope the new thread is up when i wake up to post something

> Books:
> Understanding Comics
> Making Comics
> Manga in Theory and Practice: The Craft of Creating Manga
> https://mega.nz/folder/Dd4hnZTC#EjMIcTDPLbWXkAJLPHx2Kg
Link is dead.
Also is there a difference between a comic and a manga? They both looks same to me.

>>7109896
"Comic" is often used as an umbrella term that includes "manga". Manga, bande dessine, webtoons and american comics are all types of comic.

>>7103164
ei food anon here, right now I'm just working on a oneshoot I've been procrastinating to much already, getting serious on finishing it this year.
Also probably I will put it on standby (lol) until I finish the next SMA entry (I want to be hurt again). This is a page for my one shoot.

New thread at:

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>>7110032
okay man come on it's not even close to page 10.