/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>7103265
I forgot it rotates images depending on the angle your phone is at, I fucking hate these little gay devices.

You imbeciles have the IQ of tapeworms, are you really sure you aren't niggers or blond females?
Because it seems so.
TLDR JUST DRAW FOR FUCKS SAKEA

>>7103265
I forgot it rotates images depending on the angle your phone is at, I fucking hate these little gay devices.

>>7103271
4 out of 5 of those look good.
One looks like it has fetal alcohol syndrome

>>7103274
Drawing is like gacha, isn't it?

>>7103264
>squats, oats and gomad
so you shouldn't follow those books then, unless you want to go t-rex mode?

>>7103264
>>7103286
right, and pic related is 100 chins + dips

I feel like my shading an lighting are whack. Any way I can improve it?

>>7103303
You can hang yourself to improve our overall wellbeing

>>7103303
have you tried actually studying lighting from life / photos / masters? You learn it the same you way you learn anything else, by observing it and memorizing patterns

>>7103308
A few times. Though the results can be hit or miss. But I usually just slam things together and see what sticks. Trial and error.

>>7101502
tried to rush it before my drawing time was over. could be better, could be worse I guess

We're not gonna make it
No, we ain't gonna make it
We're not gonna make it anymore

We've got the right to draw, and
There ain't no way we'll learn it
This is our 'shop, this is our style
We'll fight the Loomies that be, just
Don't pick on our skills, 'cause
You don't know us, you don't belong

We're not gonna make it
No, we ain't gonna make it
We're not gonna make it anymore

Oh, you're so condescending
Your critique is never ending
We don't want nothin', not a thing from you
Your art is trite and jaded
Boring and confiscated
If that's your best, your best won't do

>>7103314
>A few times.
>few
there's your problem

>>7103328
Something tells me I should make it a habit. Though, I have...lets say barriers that intimidate me from making a proper habit out of it.

>>7103321
jank boteko

>>7103311
I’m prescribing you 12 hours of penis studies. You aren’t allowed to leave until you can draw sweaty cocks like a professional.

>>7103348
You can't do this to me

study
focused mostly on values with this

>>7103351
Artist of this piece here - >>7103303

Tell me more.

>>7103033
Are you sure? Because I'm really not enjoying it,.

>>7103327
lel

Only 2 bunnies left

idk, not a fan of how i did this guy's arms but the character in question had twigs for arms/legs so eh
>>7103303
study from life or artists you like
(i need to work on my lighting at some point too desu fampai)
>>7103351
i love the light reflection on her hip + leg
>>7103365
qt bun

>>7103365
It''s not fair...

Any help? I don't get much how to make a muscular body from the side and the references I've found aren't of much help.
Also a general overview would help a lot too

>>7103303
>>7103353
I would say to practice basic shapes in different lighting setups (back lit, above, below, head on, ect) then apply that to bodies since they're made up of mostly circles and cylinders
also think about what areas will catch more light. edges and anything that raised or protruding will catch more light. do the opposite for shadows

In yr drawing the lighting on the breasts doesn't fit with the rest of the drawing. They look like they're being lit from the top rather than the side

>>7103367
thanks

>>7103389
>Boob lighting lit from the sides.

Hmm...that may be the center problem I have been having. I will see if i can fix it. Thanks. Though is it possible you can red line where the shading should be for the boobs propper? I am trying to impress my commissioner.

>>7103303
The shadows are dark and the highlights are white but the light doesn’t look very light so increase the contrast on the midtones (make them lighter). Play around with tone curves and see what looks good.

>>7103392
I think this would make more sense
I just quickly grabbed a baseball and shined a light on it to check

>>7103420
Makes a lot more sense. Thanks a bunch, fempai

>>7103427
np

>~<

>>7103382

>>7103439
You know. I wanted to try something like that. Add more depths to shading like I used to do before my rock bottoms. The other is that I...don't have steady hands.
Still, I will see what I can do with my shading method. I use brightness and contrast while the overlay blankets over the shading layers.
On another note, the shading you done...I am saving that as a reference since I am gonna use the file as a test file.

>>7103397
>Tone curves
My God! This slaps! I want to kiss you right now, fampai!! Thanks!

>>7103439
Thank you!

A quick goblin sketch I did in 5 minutes. The goblin doesn't matter, I just don't like posting something without posting work along with it.

I have been reading Hogarth's Dynamic Anatomy. I think it's pretty interesting but I would like to know what other's think about his books and if I should bother reading his other books like "drawing dynamic hands" or "dynamic wrinkles and drapery."

I have also recently heard about gesture drawing but with plants. Is this an actual thing or am I being rused? I know about gesture drawing with humans and animals but I couldn't find much about with plants.

>>7103447
Thanks a lot anon! This helps to see the form a lot

>>7103365
wide ass face looking like a shovel

Proko's basics: 'master' study.
This is the sketch—it took me 6 hours. I really struggled with proportions and the relationships between different lines; I think you study bargue for that or something. I still plan to do a final line art layer to study the line weight.

Thoughts?

>>7103496
what thumb doing

>>7103499
wish I knew

>>7103502
kek

>>7103502
i don't think this was a good image to study

>>7103506
yeah, I eenie meenie miney moeed it cause I'm indecisive. I thought it didn't matter that much since I would be doing a lot of studies from now on

>>7103303
study artists that specialize in shading and lighting, impressionists and post-impressionists maybe, shit like Monet an be tough on steroids but I can't think of anyone better at lighting

thicc thighs

>>7103513
Sounds like an idea. I mean Monet has some good quality paint. Studying them would mean to broaden and simplify them. But its a start. Surely better than winging it.

Also, I decided to make this the final draft for the com.

Thanks for all the help everyone. It feels like I am breaking new grounds, even if its not exactly the grounds I wanted to break. But its a learning experience.

thanks again.

>>7103467
it is not about complexity or stability. its about form, space and light logic. I do not know how it supposed to looks like or beauty I'm just trying to apply light logic based on my limited understanding of form of this and what is going on.

>>7103526
>its about form, space and light logic.

Oh shoot. I misunderstood.

The idea is the character is dressed as a sword dancer. Simple posing for the audience. But its more of an experimental piece I wanted to try alongside the com. The other is that I wanted to make it special for the commissioner, who is a friend and a really talented artist.

All and all, I feel that I should have add a bit more thought to the context instead of just thinking about a pose and a theme involving contrasting light and dark with Egyptian themes.

I still appreciate the visual feedbacks. I will still try and paint like you have just shown. Its going to take a lot of trial and error. But I still appreciate it.

>>7103473
Hogarth is a good artist, and sometimes his figures are fun to look at. If you like the aesthetics of his art, then feel free to study it.

I personally like Bridgman a lot more though. I recommend going through the David Finch roadmap, exactly as written. Get all the way through the "Copy Bridgman Twice" thing, including the memory drawings, and you'll come out a dramatically better artist. You can also study Hogarth in this way.

https://davidfinchart.com/where-to-start-and-where-to-go-from-there-a-roadmap-to-professional-quality-art/

Drawing plants is good for you. Lots of fiber ;)

copy bridgman at least 4 or 5 times is the updated way
https://youtu.be/5sUbnpserx0?t=1618

>>7103568
you only copied bridgman 2 times? i told you 3 times wasn't enough, you should've done it at least 4 times what do you mean you couldn't even copy bridgman 5 times it's child's play to copy him just 6 times, come on if you really wanna take this seriously the bare minimum is 7 times what charlatan grifter told you 8 times would be enough?

Can't wait for Pawel to give everyone advice while posting the worst drawings this thread has to offer

>>7103264
What happened here did they do this on purpose ? He looks like he have face like a stick.

>>7103581
he's been ignoring mine lately

How do I give her clothes? I only know how to draw naked anime women.

>>7103592
is that yayoi

>>7103598
Perhaps...

>>7103264
I followed a guide for drawing explosions a while back but added my own flair of dents and blurs

However looking back at it I'm finding some faults

Do you guys think the dark orange outer part of the explosion is too large? Should I shrink it to be closer to the bright orange and yellow center?

Sup beg, yes i am still permabeg

>>7103519
>>7103365
solid coom as usual
>>7103496
>6 hours
i hope you wont die anon. it looks okay
>>7103473
hogarth is on my definitive "todo" books, his drawings are very cool
>gesture in plants
one of the art books said gesture is in literally EVERYTHING and i believe it
>>7103351
the head feels too small compared to the rest of the body. like check how many times does her head fit into her arm or leg. is she supposed to be like 2.5 meters tall?
>>7103327
post the original song please
>>7103271
nice
>>7102113
>do art daily
if you mean /dad on ic then no thanks, that general has like 3 drawers and 99 shitposters. or you mean something else?
>>7103145
>your copies were orders of magnitude better
COPIES. yes. i am done with mindless copying. i want to level up beyond copies. i want to climb out of beg pit! and i will do it with figure drawing or i shall die trying. figures are nonnegotiable
>>7103592
hit yandex, type in: woman gorgeous night robe and steal i mean use photo as reference
>>7103607
kek, i shall call you explosionAnon. this explosion is very nice, it could be used like this in anime or comic. but why dont you draw whole scene with car exploding and sending bricks flying? why just the explosions?

>>7103611
at some point you should take time to study face construction as well. your bodies are stronger than your head drawing. /asg/ unironically has a good sticky, better than most of the generals on /ic/

>>7103611
Oh I was just drawing explosions as a sort of experimenting with different methods. Some of them I liked and some I didn't.

>>7103611
>head feels too small
shit yr right
this better? I think the head was a bit small in the artwork I was studying as well

>>7103611
You are not permabeg, Pawell, you are actively sabotaging yourself. You literally used to draw better than this. Set gesture aside until you have a better grasp on the basics, please.

>>7103611
>>7103611
You need to spend time actually copying accurately, it's like you've got a different book from the one I copied

>>7103611
STOP
GIVING
ADVICE
!!!!!!!

i won’t contribute to this thread either since i don’t draw no more

Bridgman

>>7103649
did you skip perspective and go straight to bridgeman? shits looking a bit wonky

>>7103611
Fuck you, you god damn cock sucking nigger faggot! I wish your mother aborted you!

>>7103592
im thinking like this ?

>>7103592
use ref

>>7103662
I haven't been following an order for what I learn, I just study what I seem to be struggling with until I feel more confident in it

could you elaborate on what looks wonky? I know some of the proportions are wrong but I think that's because I'm used to drawing in pencil or digital where I can fix them after I get the whole body blocked in rather than having them set in stone right off the bat w pen

As for perspective I think I understand the basics of 1 2 and 3 point but it's been a while since I studied it

>>7103362
Well, every good artist has felt the compulsion to draw even when it’s painful. It sounds like you won’t be able to quit even if you try, so you have that same compulsion and can use that to become good.

>>7103592
how about this?

Anyone else here ruin their life over art?

>>7103674
no, what did you do?

>>7103674
Not yet but I'm working on it

>>7103674
No, I ruined my art over life.

>>7103674
I did
I live a double life from my family, keeping them happy thinking that I'm pursuing something that in actuality I'm half-assing, while secretly pouring my efforts into art. The worst part is that they're actual pro artists, but they constantly tease me for not having talent like them.

>>7103678
I don't like that they tease you, you don't deserve that.

Reminder that anyone can draw it just matters if you suck or naht

>>7103678
You should kill them.

some tomfox hands

>>7103611
you're one weird guy

taking advice from anons from the last thread :D

>>7103622
How can I improve my accuracy?

first sketch

>>7103709
>Big ears
Goku's ears really are big and wide

>>7103674
yeah. I have no doubt I would've ruined my life regardless but art certainly helped accelerate it

>>7103611
>Xiao's Human Anatomy
>2/10
>Pawell probably
He's on his way to ruin people reputation again.

this is the first ever study I've ever made in my entire life
ref is
>danbooru 5611938

>>7103716
I think I put that there because the ears were overlapping the hair.
Also good sketch

>>7103711
Observe the proportions, angles, and positions of things properly. How big is A compared to B? What angle is that from vertical? What shape do those parts make? Does C overlap D? These are the sort of questions you should be asking yourself when you're copying. Make sure the sketch is correct before proceeding. and if it's wrong, redo it, otherwise you won't learn.

Did a Leyendecker study. Man, how do people come up with such nice shapes for shadows and lights

>>7103709
here's what I learned

try redrawing it 1-3 times, try taking notes on what you did wrong, try applying shapes to your drawing

I prefer contour desu since I'm doing KTD, but honestly I don't mind. This is kinda my first time doing Construction and I think it went okay. I can draw anime heads easily, since I used to copy manga xd.

But overall I'm glad it went okay better than yesterday

for reference here's yesterday

>>7103669
These 3d shapes don't quite make sense. You really need to be able to draw basic shapes in perspective or else you will absolutely struggle with drawing more complex shapes.

This video will start to give you an idea of how it applies to figures.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5gKA7hu7Fc

>>7103748
>people
He's kind of on a different level than "people"

>>7103748
>draw good looking buff men
be gay. There is your answer.

>>7103611
keep it up Pawell sensei

>>7103674
I endured tons of shit in my life and now I have a mediocre but comfortable and well paying codemonkey job that allows me to draw as a hobby.
I give thanks to GOD that I have a job, a roof, a stocked fridge and a healthy but injured body.
My biggest worry right now is being a mediocre boxer and a dogshit artist. Thanks GOD.
>>7103702
Lol. Lmao
>>7103706
As someone who really struggles to make anything but flat horrid shit, I really like those. Is this the secret to 3D? Just boxes?
>>7103709
Getting there nigga.


Posting self-indulgent fetish doodle.

>want to keep drawling
>hand hurts
>>7103674
I'm about to

Can someone please tell me how to fix the hand? Also how do I avoid chicken scratch on parts with many small bumps, do you just have to practice for years?

When should I try drawing my own characters?

I feel like I can draw from reference pretty well now although there's always room for improvement

>>7103664
>>7103671
very cute

>>7103269
Torso too long and legs too short friend

>>7103271
Very good. Id want to see you draw something with confident lines, one mark per intention. I think you could do it anon!

>>7103303
Oh no

>>7103351
Since youre focussing on value: too much mid tone, extend the darker and lighter zones a bit. Focus on maybe 3 or 4 distinct values first

>>7103367
Right shoulder looks disconnected, the arms themselves are fine. The lines on the coat are hilariously bad compared to the rest, keep going anon!

>>7103382
Doesnt read as muscular, you got a bit of michelin man effect there. Try to balance curves and straights instead of doing all curves

>>7103592
Oh no

>>7103611
Nice, keep up the grind. Ever tried trad?

>>7103709
>>7103716
Respect! Nice progress

>>7103748
Did he really do it from imagination?

Im trying out a new watercolor brand. Trad is busy discussing other important stuff, any watercolorists here?

>>7103810
That yours? Looks very pretty and it reads great even if it is super messy.

>>7103671
Wow I actually just noticed they have the same color palette, but I was actually going to make her dress like a dragon ball character.

>>7103817
Yes, thanks anon

>>7103592
:]

>>7103439
>>7103840
>:( stop flexing on me. You punk.

They say to copy artists you like
Did try to copy this one db artist i like
Their gohan drawing but on paper
I fucking struggled hard with the z head mainly the eyes

>>7103840
>>7103840
Is that a reference?

Also how do you paint so fast?

>>7103806
Break the shapes down into bite size pieces.
I like her hair.

>>7103806
Derp
>>7103855

I dont know what it is about rendering but I just cant its unbelievable. Drawing is fine, done it all my life. But give me a paintbrush and I pretty much crumble. I dread starting with the basics all over again desu.

>>7103863
looks good though, a bit messy around the hands but good

>>7103864
really? i dunno. It felt like I was still stuck drawing with a brush and not painting the real way. yeah, the hands could do with some more work next time for sure

>>7103857
>realistic but anime face
scary

>>7103863
But what does it mean

color:)

>>7103857
How do I learn to draw lines how you draw lines?

>>7103365
Do coomers get 50% art skills boost
Why the fuck are coomers usually more skilled

>>7103892
Idk but drawing chicks makes me incredibly happy

>>7103893
Do you have fav coom artist
I wanna try and copy one of their works

>>7103882
Damn this one is real nice.

>>7103611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xmckWVPRaI

>>7103896
I'm not even a coomer I just like drawing cute things, including boys

>>7103264
me irl

>>7103873
I like 90s anime style
>>7103885
By deathgripping the stylus like an animal

>>7103711
Look at your ref more than your paper

>>7103264
Maybe colouring doesn't have to be so painful

>>7103803
pirate a course and take it slow. Something observation heavy like Eviston's course will do you some good. do the course you've chosen with somebody who can check if your doing the exercises properly. Also be sure to take your time when drawing, slowing down is the easiest way to make better looking work. learn to make proportional observations. While doing the course, apply what you learn to artist's you're studying and into your own work.

accumulate skills starting from accurate observation as your foundation. I recommend sticking to a video course since you can then see how the exercises are performed.

>>7103803
Holy shit i just started doing boxing and coding 2 months ago
Bless you brother

>>7103716
second draft
>>7103810
different anons

learning to paint with shapes not lines

At what stage should one buy a tablet?

>>7103963
I can see hair lines there. Wot a fooking waker.

>>7103966
n-no please I didnt mean to! those lines dont count OKAY?!?

>>7103810
>Torso too long and legs too short friend
You saved my life.

>>7103965
use a pencil

>>7103965
as soon as possible. first, to see if even like digital and second, to get over the learning curve of digital as quickly as possible. if you are still a beginner you can kill two birds with one stone and practice your hand eye coordination skills while you still have low expectations.

on one hand it only add distractions and do not solve any underling problems but on the other it have lot of advantages. if its for fun can start with it, if serious face maybe it makes sense to stick to paper for like a year or something

>>7103365
Luv your work jona.
>>7103447
COOM
>>7103938
Oh wow anon your redraw looks so much better. The figure is all humanlike and shit, the very wide hips look insane and the leotard doesn't look painted on. Everything is so much better.
>Start with observation courses like Eviston
Lmao. Am I really that much of a permabeg? In fact I started with Eviston after being SCAMMED by the DAB fag and liked how methodical his stuff was. I learnt many things from him but it seems I am too retarded to actually get better from them.
Thanks anon. Guess I will start copying from his course. Again.
Do you have a blog? I really liked your redraw.
>>7103939
Do your cardio for boxing and dont fall into retarded shit like leetcode. Get yourself a goal (Making a simple CMS or something) and start googling how to do stuff from a blank source file. Fucking up will teach you vast more.

I'm no stranger to humiliation

>>7103892
>Why the fuck are coomers usually more skilled
Their unending sex drive is their main source of inspiration. That's why on average draw more, they dont suffer from "lack of inspiration" phases.

>>7103264
working on this thing, it is not finished yet, i wanted to know if I'm going in the right direction here

>>7104039
is that a skirt? seems superfluous, image looks good, crotch looks weird

>>7104040
crotch looks weird?

i want to draw "for myself" or "for fun" more because only doing the course exercises gets boring and exhausting but i get really discouraged since my skill is still far from what is needed to translate the images in my head onto paper, how do i power through the "everything i do is shit" phase?

>>7104042
crotch-hip area in general, maybe quads, reminds me of a man, unless you were going for the tranny look, then good job

>>7104043
drawn from photos reverences, if you want fun then do cosplayers and hollywood actors till you get a hang of anatomy, then train line art

>>7104044
i don't get it

>>7104045
nta but she has massive fucking roider quads, they're literally the widest part of her entire body

>>7104045
maybe this, you made the stomach part get thinner, but the hip area still looks boxy rather than rounded

>>7104040
is the crotch better now?

>>7104046
i like thick thights

>>7103501

>>7103496
>Study
>Massive, massive milkers
>6 hours total
>5.5 spent drawing and detailing the intricacies of those absolute bazookas.
Coom artists are really something else.

>>7102270
I wish I could use AI slop as ref but the anatomy is always somewhat fucked

>>7103981
I'm not going to keep folders of physical fetish drawings

>>7104016
Thanks
I'll do more cardio
For now i'm also trying to punch correctly because i keep fucking up my hand

Alright so I did three studies on the female figure...well two detailed ones with the third one being an attempt at a bean torso method...looks so messy.

I tried my best to keep the position of the feet accurate.

>>7104073
>folders of physical fetish drawings
Unfathomably based.

>>7103782
I'll give the vid a watch, thanks man

>>7103810
>too much mid tone
>Focus on maybe 3 or 4 distinct values first
thanks for the feedback
I usually start with the darkest tone then go to for the highlights and then put in the mid tones

Big Billy

fucked up the hands and the values around the arms, but it's pretty OK overall

>>7104144
Earth's World vibes

So there's this image...but what happens if you extend the upper body while leaving the left arm where it is...

>>7104116
Who is the blonde?

I guess today is a draw from imaginoo day for me

>>7103670
No I'm pretty sure I'm just stubborn, I'm gonna try and keep as far away from drawing as possible.

>>7103810
>>7104138
Think this is better?

>>7104179
she was from the IC reference pack. I dunno her name.

Anons i have a question, say i have about 6 hours to draw and i'm interested in three different things to study, should i be splitting them into 2 hour chunks or focus on a single thing per day brosplits style?

>>7103620
>Set gesture aside until you have a better grasp on the basics
gesture is basics you fucking crab, stop dragging him down the bucket

>>7104064
I'm not even an artist yet, and I don't plan to be a coom one. I just like the original 'piece.'

added one more character, looking for feedback.

>>7104286
pyw

Tried drawing body from imagination

>>7104322
I'll dump few other drawings
Here's finally wip i decided to make again full piece of some monster i made up
Still a sketch i'll have to refine the arm anatomy and fix it

>>7104332
And yea just a question
Does tracing help begs or should i just try and eyeball reference

>>7104312
pyw you retard, you're the one crabbing him

Wow this board is all of the opposite of helpful, it's like the version of being unhelpful but with malice and with hopes you don't succeed, like giving anti-advice.
And the "criticism" is too I'll intentioned, as if it was made by females with their period.

did pose anon give up? He was an unsung hero

>>7103519
thicc ass more like

done, more or less

accidentally took a 5 day break from doing gestures and think i forgot the little progress i had made on them in the meantime

>>7104043
You remind yourself that every good artist went through that phase and didn’t give up, so it’s necessary to power through it. Think of bad art as an opportunity to improve because just by looking at it and identifying the aspects that suck you have a list of what the most important things you need to practice are. And list out the good parts too to encourage yourself + continue including those in later pieces. Don’t be someone who studies forever and never does original work.

>>7104264
Smaller chunks daily are better for retention than one thing for several hours.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributed_practice

>>7103264
How do you study? I don't really know what to do when I learn something. They say apply it to reference but I don't really understand

>>7104491
you need to feel the form

>>7104181

>>7104491
well, I don't know since I'm a 37 day beginner into drawing. But I recently heard about cognitive drawing, if you wanna learn anatomy you just copy and draw it from memory

another way of studying is just observation, look at colors and how a picture is framed or a scene plays out.

>>7104520
Fucking rude. Piece of shit.

>>7104528
kinda proud of myself as well, I never realized that id draw for 37 days straight, i assumed that I'd give up at day 3-5, sorry if this is like me sucking my own dick or something im just amazed

>>7104491
>How do you study
I copy random shit I find on the internet and try reflecting on why the results suck when I'm done, There's definitely a better way.

same artist of the jackal commission here.

I am trying to play around with tonal curves but I feel that there could be more I could learn and incorporate into how I use light and contrast into my shading. Any tips?

>>7104520
kek'd

>>7104529
I am so sorry, please forgive me

>>7104548
The numbers, in case you are asking. I appologize for the laziness in description. I am having a rough day and I am hard on myself

>>7104528
>>7104539
gmi!

Rewatching Bocchi so decided to draw it even though I don't particularly like the style.
Trying to be accurate and fast, I'm making improvements but I'm still no where near where I need to be :/
Tried not to erase. I struggle with intuitive perspective especially with the body (a high or low angle shot where the pelvis and rib cage overlap each other for example).
I think I will just draw more.

>>7104520
hahaha

>>7104181
Love the bottom one

>>7104144
disgusting - nice!

>>7103264
Should I actually do what I'm told in the videos in the sticky or just understand the theory?

>>7104353
>no work posted

>>7104407
fuuuck it feels so good to finally find a reference set you enjoy

>>7104573
That makes two of us

>>7104548
Do value studies from photos and other artists with good lighting. There are a lot of resources explaining how to do this so just look it up and ask here if you don’t get something.

>>7104407
fuuuck it feels so good to finally find a reference set you enjoy (forgot pic)
i'm curious how an /int/ would handle her left-underarm (our pov's right) in particular on this one with just line art, i couldn't find a way to make it not look totally hopeless

Before i make an actual head tried smaller sketch with loomis

>>7104561
How many fucking times do you need to spam this on /ic/?
>>7104553
>>7104585

Why are you necro bumping page 9 threads with this?

>>7104591
oh, putting me on blast for posting my drawings in other threads????

>>7104592
I'm """putting you on blast""" for spamming. Why are you necro bumping threads that were on page 9 to the front page????

>>7104594
oh i get the drawing is not good
punk ass subu lied about having potential which is why he gets the OP of asg
and me i still have to lay with bitch ass Cris, Pawell and worst of all, gabe the SCHLUB

>>7104594
i show no love
to nodraw thugs
Empty out, reload, and show more drawings
even if we squash the beef i ain't touchin' ya hand
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsSM_YyZ3uU

>>7104520
I take it you liked my pose. I hope I'll keep inspiring you to make more art ;]

>>7104604
You better bust that if you’re gonna pull that….

>>7104578
I think maybe have more space between the body and her (screen right) left leg. You should have more space to get the armpit in there. But I wouldn't worry about it too much, unless you're going for accuracy.

I'd do something like this.

Keep going anon!

>>7104607
ty, very helpful to see it done like that

>>7104591
>>7104594
i see how it is
a- a- a HUMILIATION RITUAL
hey guys let's put me on blast

>>7104615
of the Baskin Roberts Trust Fund Band.

>>7104615
>>7104600
>>7104597
Just make your own general, lunaticsoad

>>7104625
i ain't like bitch ass cris

no pose this thread?

Just started Loomis as a newbie.
These are my first drawings. I think I'm shit at circles, specially on digital

>>7103303
THICC

lost my gouache virginity (and of painting in general) today

>>7104548
I messed aroudn with the tone curves. Turns out using them for lighting combined with the gradiant map slaps!

Would love feedback about structural flaws.
I'm mostly trying to practice constructing the head and placing various parts and not too concerned about looks.

>KtD 4-D
2 hours to do the last 2 of the 3 drawings, holy fuck I am dying.

Sup beg

>>7104647
i heavily recc to first do some beginner book first and foremost before trying to tackle advanced stuff like loomis. Check the OP of the pic, or keys to drawing. welcome to beg
>>7104572
no amount of theory or tools will substitute the need of practice
>>7104571
lmao anime girls counter strike. i kneel
>>7104338
tracing is one thing multiple art books EXPLICITLY warned against: it teaches you nothing. you want to train your eye as much as possible
>>7104304
the clean lineart clashes with pixelated font. the green eyed head isnt properly 3/4 foreshortened. all in all its cute
>>7104181
cute anime thots
>>7104144
i kneel
>>7104043
less thinking, more drawing
>>7103965
on day 1 unless you plan being 100% trad chad, in that case buy 9999stack of printer paper, ideally at least A3, charcoal and drawing easel/horse
>>7103937
if the drawing is solid then its almost impossible to fuck up coloring, it will always only improve it. good job!
>>7103863
>why am i struggling with the thing i never did before?
less whining, more painting
>>7103810
i kneel tradchad
>>7104286
post like these is why i am doing multiple different books on same topic: not just for practice and mileage, but also to check multiple resources to really know whats up. and frankly gesture is one of the topics where is zero overlap: some books say its the most important shit ever, some pretend it doesnt exist at all. I will simply have to keep trying until my figures are no longer so BEG
>>7104661
you didnt have art classes at primary school? we used goache there 24/7

>>7103810
>The lines on the coat are hilariously bad compared to the rest
yeah lineart is my #1 opp next to shading, ty anon

i knew it was shit, i can tell because nigga pawell ignored it

I'd appreciate some thoughts

every time i feel like i understand what gesture is, it becomes even more ephemeral and inscrutable

>>7104681
you got us disqualified 'cause YOU BID LIKE SHIT

>>7104561
is that the dude from devil survivor, based if so

>>7104676
Why do you post if you never take advice?

>>7104686
because he's Chad King.

we're gonna have to draw faster again like nigga Pawell and avoid Bitch Ass Cris

>>7104686
>>7104687
He can do the Chad Dive

>>7103898
Thank you mann :)

>>7104700
Chad Pawell mass reply
vs the Virgin advice single giver

I love them

>>7104676
Stop giving advice when you're posting the most unpleasant drawings this board has seen.

>>7104708
Let Chad Pawell Cook.

How do you guys keep motivated?

>>7104717
power of coom

>>7104717
I do it for fun, so motivation isn't really a problem

>>7104708
>when you're posting the most unpleasant drawings this board has seen.
i thought mine were

>>7104717
Making porn of my waifu and the desire to maim a chilean for life.

>>7104708
really got to step up my game to take that title from him

Daily life draw. My excuse (cope) is that I was short on time.

>>7104676
keep up the good work
>>7104661
gouache might be the best I think, I regret not buying it. my reason
>acrylic: I dont want to flush the microplastic to have it end up in my blood
>watercolor: too random and quirky, I will learn one day cause its legit cool, so no hate but as a beg I want something more certain
>>7104181
>>7104604
youre good man. keep up. whats up with that box cutter tho?
>>7104571
I dig this
>>7104385
S0VL. I think you could have the characters overlap so it gives you a lil more perspective and better composition
>>7103882
I want to be you
>>7103801
I dig this MacPaint-ish dithering style, but to give you some crit, I think you could have worked more onthe shading, because thats the icing of your cake the way I see it. don't like the parts where the shadow shapes are not defined and that same pattern is used too much, I understand its hard tho.

wtf even MARIEL got a response?????
i knew it was bad this whole time

I want to draw..but I can't...

>>7104735
tell me your post number and I will reply to yours. I can't promise crit, but I will say an opinion. I will even pretend I did it without you asking

>>7104385
What the fuck have you done to Lappland

>>7104591
see, thanks for putting me on blast and missing out on the mass replies
asshole

>>7104739

>>7104647
Stop drawing on tablet. Take a pen, take some slightly rougher paper, and spend about one hour drawing. Do not rush. It should take the full hour to draw the face.

is this pose remotely readable

>>7104712
he's been cooking for two years now and he hasnt improved at all

>>7104771
oh you did that on purpose to mock me didn't you
didn't you
now im real fucking mad

>>7104770
the leather club is two blocks down

>>7104775
take your meds

>>7104775
kek Glad you figured it out, dumbass

>>7104776
excellent

>>7104676
Did you really think through that mirrored pose? Can your legs do that?

>>7104779
and who is you??? trying to say we got the anime void head syndrome and shit

>>7104770
Yes but the upper body should be more forward with that pelvis

>>7104787
sorry, i was just going with the flow. dunno who you are

Please give me your advice and Redline (if it's not too much to ask). I know my head was too big and The hands have 0 effort but I am interested in the body's opinion, thank you very much.

>>7104668
Just keep practicing, you're doing great. If I were to nitpick, I'd work on placing the features using guidelines more. Some angles are really good, while others could use a guideline or two.

>>7104806
Why should people give you the effort of a redline when you won't even put the effort in to fix things you know are wrong.

If you're not even willing to fix obvious things, you will be too lazy and undisciplined to fix things that people tell you to fix.

>>7104836
oh, THANK YOU OH LORD FOR THIS, thank you oh lord for this white blind light a city rises from the sea, I had a splitting headache from which the future is made

we're gonna draw some Nikke

i dont really practice portraits but my drawings of them are much better then my scenery/objects drawings. i wonder why this is

>>7103938
What brush is this?

:]

RAPI JUICE

>>7104864
lovely

>>7103264
i fell there is something missing.

been working in this promo all day, but i fell there is something missing.

I made some more eyes

>>7104882
hey you're that one nigga
fuck you

Where can I find a PDF Version of Michael Hampton's Figure drawing book?
I can't afford it.

>>7104888
https://anatomiaartistica.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/michael-hampton-figure-drawing-design-and-invention-1.pdf

>>7104904
Thanks, Anon.

Angles are like super hard i have no idea what im doing.

>>7104774
show his first art piece

>>7104912
nvm found it

I'd say he improved

>>7104286
I am not trying to crab pawell. I would never crab anyone. I'm trying to prevent him from spinning his wheels for years like I did. Gesture is not a basic skill. It's very subtle and relies on a solid foundation of observational skills and, to a lesser extent, anatomical knowledge. Beginners should dip their toes in, but not focus on it completely.
>>7104676
>post like these is why i am doing multiple different books on same topic: not just for practice and mileage, but also to check multiple resources to really know whats up. and frankly gesture is one of the topics where is zero overlap: some books say its the most important shit ever, some pretend it doesnt exist at all. I will simply have to keep trying until my figures are no longer so BEG

Gesture is extremely important. I'm guessing that the reason some books don't mention it is because the authors understand that it isn't something you should throw at someone just starting out. You yourself say that training observation is the most important thing for beginners, and you're right. You should slow down and focus on accuracy for a while, rather than grinding quick gestures. If you don't make sure that what you're putting down looks right, then, well, it's not going to look right. No matter how many times you do it. You're just building bad habits, like I did.

For me personally, I've decided to break down my studies for the next few weeks into focusing on specific parts of the body. The first week is feet, then I'll move up to legs, and so on. Zooming in like this, rather than trying to get every part of the body right at once, helps make things less overwhelming, and I feel like I'm actually getting more information per session.

>>7104676
Those piece of shit youtubers were crabbing me then with tracing shit

>>7104587
HOLY SHIT BEG BROS
I think it's finally clicking for me

>>7104951
Sorry forgot to use a4 paper

>>7104742
Made her bigger and fluffier
>>7104731
Ah, indeed. I suppose I have tendency to try to show as much possible.

>>7104915
>Own work has no gesture
>Tells other person to not study gesture either
This is the most accurate example of a crab ever

It's sort of like a bad surrealist counter-reformation drawing, like if Magritte lived in the 17th Century. Should've used B4 paper.

She's not bad, just drawn that way. There's still an element of squash and stretch to Richard Williams' work.

This is a fun character to write for.

lol

Guys, I installed photoshop 2023 after upgrading from 2017 and literally everything is just easier and works better.

Can't tell if the original is AI

Yo, I'll fuckin', I'll... I'll puke, eat it, and freak you
Battle? I'm too weeded to speak to, The only key that I see to defeat you
Would be for me to remove these two Adidas and beat you
And force feed you 'em both, and on each feet is a cleat shoe
I'll lift you off your feet so fast with a roundhouse
You'll think I pulled the fucking ground out from underneath you
(Bitch!) I ain't no fucking G, I'm a cannibal
I ain't tryin' to shoot you, I'm tryin' to chop you into pieces and eat you

Do observational drawing and 3D construction complement each other?
Trying to wrap my head around why both might be needed.
Observational drawing: getting correct angles and getting correct proportions. Useful when doing master studies.
Construction: simplifying to basic shapes and indicating perspective. Useful when drawing from imagination and can also be used for master studies.

>>7104681
Good start anon. Here's a few points to keep in mind.
The ground will be pushing up against her shoulders in this position. Also use that white space you have to make her come out of frame to reinforce the idea of her leaning forward.

you're jumping the gun into texture prematurely when it's a direct product of light and shadow. You haven't developed the lighting in this image to really establish that. What artist are you trying to study?

>>7104861
pic related with no opacity, and size change. Just get a rectangle and make it respond somewhat like ink would. Get aquainted with the brush customization so you don't have to ask anymore.

>tried to draw this skull
what went wrong?

>>7105047
darken your values

>>7105047
it's fine, you just need to add more shading so it's not just 2 values of ultra-light grey that make it look flat

>>7105027
Literally how iliya mirochnik does it. His course is in the torrent. There's a lot of overlap between concepts. For instance, a lot of people seem to be under the impression that gesture/rhythm is a uniquely linear construct when that's thinking about the concept too small. It's too big to be confined to just line. It affects color and value as well as shapes. How these interconnect is what makes an image feel nice to look at.

Take this Leyendecker for example. The colored line that I made could be referred to as the rhythm of color in this piece, although this is a grossly oversimplified idea of it. It's more apparent with color zones of the face. The proportion of the colors have this timing to them similar to playing music. So there's the proportional rhythm of the colors and then there's also where they fit between each other through the shapes. Marco Bucci makes a good comparison to music here as well as to how color moves:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFoKmX0LfCs&ab_channel=MarcoBucci
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LhcNbFMkTw&t=380s&ab_channel=MarcoBucci

I highly recommend reading Harold Speed's The Science and Practice of Drawing. It won't teach you how to draw, it's more so conveying important concepts about drawing.

My thoughts are a bit all over the place with this spiel. Rhythm is such a massive concept that's it's difficult for me to type about. The more you can compare picture making to not just music, but sports as well the more you might get of my schizo ramble.

tl/dr

Observation/3d construction and everything else will complement each other as you improve and understand drawing/painting more.

kinda want to do the copy bridgman twice routine but i'm afraid my figures will turn out like pawel's...

>>7105067
You need to copy bridgman at least 3 times these days. If you aren’t copying bridgman 4 times minimum you are shooting yourself in the foot. 5 times is just the warmup.

>>7104676
Love that mirrored pose exercise. I'm going to steal that

>>7105067
>https://youtu.be/FupeKX4NQsQ?si=R2N3XoTOtaQ7LBXn
>https://www.youtube.com/live/-bRVlFGNfCA?si=xLFemKLRpFQ9FVZi
Copying Bridgman is not enough, and only /int/ should study Bridgman.
FACTS:
1. You will become Pawell 2.0
2. Nobody on /ic/ copied Bridgman twice. It's a meme.
3. People who told you to copy Bridgman have ever done it themself.

>>7105090
>>7105101
I'm gonna copy bridgman 6 times (copy ref> reproduce from imag x3 times)
thank you

>>7105106
>I'm gonna copy bridgman 6 times (copy ref> reproduce from imag x3 times
You won't :) contradictive faggot.

>>7104770
This pose gives me conniptions.

>>7105110
give me 2-3 days to finish my last drawing and i'll start grinding him daily and post

>>7105112
>finish my last drawing
it will be your last drawing ever if you actually fall for the bridgman trap

>>7105112
I've been here for 5 years and I have never seen someone finished copying Bridgman. You know what. Imma start copying Bridgman and tag my posts to your copies. I will be the last and you will give up before me :) people classify me as a low /int/ btw.

> low /int/ btw

>>7105125
That's low /int/ and you will get envious from looking at my studies :)

>>7105034
How to get as gud as you?

>>7105129
Yes i clearly envy those milkers

>>7105140
I didn't even draw that. You mistook me for Soda? because of the ":)"?

>>7103264
I'm planning how I'm going to apply my studies with these writings I made, absorbing content from other artists who passed on the same information, I wanted to know if there's something wrong with it or if it's suitable

1. Do not divert focus from what you are studying
2. Avoid having an overload of information so that in the end you don’t know where to apply
TIP: focus on studying until you have an understanding of what you are studying
3. Avoid getting stuck just copying. Apply what you understand to a reference figure (look for photos of artists you like, and try to translate and deconstruct them to understand the production process.
4. Avoid practicing all the time (always drawing until exhaustion will not benefit you and will only waste time, even when you do not apply the fundamentals studied ``you are not studying for a test´´). Avoid spending long hours until exhaustion
5. What do you want your figure to convey? (know how to use everything you studied and apply it)
6. not be restricted to the method and execution of a single artist or the method of one artist. This will hinder your progress and you will miss out on essential things that you still have to learn.
7. broaden your view of the world
this over time and practice and study as an artist, will develop over time
8. exercise your motor and muscle memory

live model
observation study ______
Photos


1 week of study: fundamentals of what is being studied structure, volume, line and shapes (repeat). Search for references and study materials. Practice 30 minutes a day.

Why have I been featured in every /beg/ OP since I started browsing 6 days ago

>>7104407
How long have you been drawing for?

Your lines look very similar to mine, and I've only been drawing for 6 months.

>>7105151
Ty, yesterday when I posted that was day 34, maybe worth mentioning that the bunny girl in particular was my first time deliberately trying a new thing (for me) with straight lines and some shading to see how it'd look

>>7104744
Fucking retard.

My art did not get any replies. This is okay, I can appreciate my own effort, maybe they will reply to the next one.

What's a subject that is still easy enough to draw for a complete nodraw prebeg without looking like complete shit no matter what you do (like what happens when drawing humans now) but is still fun enough to dilute the boring chore of drawing boxes and spheres and cylinders and whatnot?

>>7105202
food can be pretty good

>>7105146
kek

>>7105067
Pawell never did Bridgman

>>7104992
those feet look pretty gestural to me. sounds like you're just seething desu

>>7105212
maybe he should get to it then

god digital art is so fucking ugly

>>7105216
pyw

>>7105221
I have no illusions about my shitty /beg/ studies
except the conviction that they'd look twice as bad if they were drawn on an ipad instead of a sheet of paper

>>7105226
Just like we all knew you wouldn't.

>>7105216
okay, then don't make digital art retard

>>7105027
They are two sides of the same coin. One is thinking in 2D and one is thinking in 3D. You need to be able to think in 3D to draw from imagination and to think in 2D to translate that into appealing shapes on your canvas. All fundies are connected and build off of each other.

>>7105228
I'd never stoop so low.
but I just opened a promising course I found recommended here
and it starts with a screen recording of a hideous fucking semi-transparent blackgrey brush on a blank photoshop document with a reference image pasted exactly to scale next to it.
am I supposed to learn from that or start vomiting into my lap while mashing altf4?
fuck

>>7105236
pyw

>>7104992
>Can't read
>Doesn't draw
Thank you for your input.

I learned this very late, im on day 38 of drawing and I realized that to gain a new skill is just trial and error there is not perfect path, pick up a book even if its shit you'll still learn something.

I recently watched a video about coding on how people just don't do it you know what I mean? People get trapped in this mindset where "OKAY I HAVE TO DRAW LIKE THIS GO TO DRAWABOX, AND CRIPPLE MY PASSION, THIS WILL MAKE ME BE LIKE THE NEXT KIM JUNG GI" you have to get comfortable with being uncomfortable, start small, and it'll lead to big results.

you learn than practice not learn than more learn. You learn by losing, it isn't technically losing since you gain something.
>>7104568
thanks!

>>7105237
lol lil' digibitch spamming the same posts like he spams ctrl+z to draw all his lines

>>7105242
also here's the video if you wanna know
https://youtu.be/QMbx0dTWJIQ?si=C4qkHsndHyiabBSt

>>7105162
Shoot, I need to up my game lol.

On that note. Is this a symbol drawing? This was done very quickly as I barely slept but wanted to do a little practice.

>>7105247
True! Most /ic/ goers spend more time finding the optimal matetials/teachers to learn from without putting in the work - drawing.

>>7105307
I'd rather do that than be me currently
I pick up paper and scribble and it looks horrible but i can't stop it. I make one doodle and i go with 10 others even if they all suck
I can't look at objects without turning them into some bad guy abominatioms
I was bored and started at calculator and turned it into some form of bad guy's hat and his abs are like type letters from calculator since he can't speak and appear on his eyes and the way he types is flexing his abs
Is this what just draw does to ones brain?

>>7105213
>those feet look pretty gestural to me
youre a fucking retard

>>7105197
naw that means it was bad
we must strive to keep drawing
like in atlanta show
naw that boy gay as hell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9r_xPa_Nsxw

studying figure drawing feels pretty comfy.

what does this look like?

>>7105267
wagmi anon
i'm obviously not the best to respond but it doesn't look like symbol drawing to me, i can see the form in the eyes

>>7105369
>>7105369

>>7105369

>>7105242
You actually realized it very early compared to most people.

>>7105388
Exactly.

But sometimes when I do drawings from a certain angle it looks flat and weird, it feels like 30% of the time I'll get it, but 70% I don't, but maybe that'll change soonish in the future with enough practice.

>>7105387
a woman in a dress reading a book

>>7104676
I'm doing fun with a pencil, other anons recommended it to me to start with
>>7104748
So the fundies are better learned in paper?

>>7105528
ignore that, drawing is a >= 99% mental skill, why would it matter if you use a pencil or anything else to do it

>>7104448
Thanks, i'll follow your advice.

7th scribble drawing I've done since starting drawing and getting my xp pen deco last week. I need to ease up on the pressure, it gets hard to draw more details later on.
What's a good charcoal pencil/stick for digital, I'm using a random anime pencil from clip studio assets, but I want something with better tilt.

sketchu

>>7103264
Anyone know where to get leftmost book in OP picrel

>>7103264
This was my first attempt at digital painting. Kept a lot of things simple: flat colors, no folds on fabric, painted figures over reference image to keep proportions accurate, and color picked from the reference. I also made the brush simple: anti-aliasing and opacity fading around the cursor, and solid color with a circle shape with no texture. I want to modify the brush later so the strokes are visible in the painting.

Another study, I struggled to get her left breast just right. Am however getting the hang of drawing the front facing angle breast better compared to before.

Feels like I am gradually getting more accurate but it's still awkward. My line work still looks bad...maybe I need a better brush.