/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

simple, he doesn't

>>7103182
because successful japanese artists follow him around calling him loomis sama and kneeling and asking him to sign their copy

Caucasian genes

>>7103204
ah, so capitalist bootlickers?

>>7103182
it's the artists pyramid scheme. "my method is t. best evah"
/beg/s want to believe that there are actual shortcuts to what boils down to hard mental effort.

amazing thread thank you OP for such a poignant point

>>7103211
at least my thread gets engagement, unlike your garbage art

>>7103215
>engagement
typical twittard

>>7103182
That’s the thing, you shouldn’t look towards the best artists for advice. Not as a /beg/, anyways. The last time they were at your skill level, they were in 4th grade. The only people they teach are people that already know what they’re doing. The mindset of a beginner is alien to them.

>>7103215
i was not sarcastic

>>7103182
>his method works
The book works, it's not his fault that you are a pathetic nigger or a dumb blond bitch
>>7103218
t.permaprebeg
>>7103224
Me neither you dumbfuck

>>7103218
True

>>7103182
He was an art teacher, and he saw his techniques worked for his students.
You guys whine about Loomis too much, pick another book to bitch about.

ffs just draw already

>>7103244
His students were already competent he just made them moreso. He didn't help anyone that was at zero.

>>7103250
i'd argue half the people on this board do a better job of teaching art than loomist ever did. his books are basically for tradfags

>>7103218
I don't even look for advice anymore, /ic/ and even normie sites are shit at giving advice.

the only shit that has somehow helped me was watching proko's vids and maybe vilppu. nigga i just wanted to draw funny cartoons and now im questioning why life is the way it is

>>7103257
tradfags??? but he teaches you to draw cartoons

I'm convinced you need to be thoroughly white to learn how to draw in a western fashion. Its circles and squares. If you struggle to follow even the basic steps laid out by Loomis, your blood is probably too tainted or your too foreign to learn it in the first place.

>>7103182
He unironically copied Bridgman twice. not memeing. the real Bridgman was his teacher lol

>>7103720
huh, i guess copying Bridgman really does work. Guess i'll do that instead of loomis.

>>7103238
>doesnt know what poignant means

watch hes gonna triple down

No wonder you people gt filtered by basic shapes.

>>7104301
It's pretty funny to watch

>>7103182
because he taught people and then noticed what was workign and what wasnt and made a book on everything he learned. he also didnt kill AI and manga shit posts on 4chan with garbage retard posts instead of drawing.

why doesn't ai use construction?

>>7104384
His students weren't total beginners, they were intermediate at least, so his teaching being marketed towards beginners is stupid, it's too difficult and esoteric

>>7103182
I have never in my lifetime opened a Loomis book, just by seeing select pages being posted here I just know this guy's art style is gay af.

>>7104709
>it's too difficult
I'm afraid it's an IQ problem, typical for americans and central/eastern europeans.

>>7104722
nah he mogs all of /ic/

>>7104727
crab

>>7104722
>He literally doesn't know
Kek you are gay, Loomis fucks

>>7103182
It does work. Just not for total beginners, because as >>7103218 so insightfully pointed out, pretty much every artist forgets exactly how they got to their level of skill after they have attained it because it is such a gradual process of searching, practicing, and throwing things at the wall until they stick.
This is true for every kind of skill that requires training the mind and the body to do it. So Loomis, like every artist before him, had to think "How exactly do I do what I do? What was the path that I took to get to this point?" and try to work backwards, picking up the pieces to try and fit them into a cohesive whole to teach a new generation to reach the height that he had attained.
This is simply the process of how knowledge and skills are developed and handed down through the passage of time. We stand on the shoulders of giants in every field of knowledge, each science, philosophy, trade and art, and each successor adds yet another piece to the puzzle in our perpetual quest to find the whole and perfect truth, to make sense of the whole mess.

Do you see it? Do you understand? How small yet integral we all are in the grand machination of time, ticking to its inevitable end?

>>7103624
shitty cartoons, maybe
it's not quite proko tier, but still a completely retarded person to look to for cartooning

>>7104729
>sameface rendermonkey
yawn
>inb4 it's muh style
>inb4 n-no they're supposed to have sameface because uhhh muh lore
cope

>>7104786
They're quintuplets nigga wtf do you think quintuplets look like

>>7104791
like clockwork

>>7104786
why is this board so scared of rendering

>>7104807
because it takes talent and skill, unlike doodlefaggotry

>>7104759
yet you can watch streams of jim lee, murata or other big name artists and they all use loomis. crazy how that works.

>>7104818
>they all \no they don't all use, you disingenuous faggot
besides which, that post literally says "it works", so,not sure what your retarded gotcha was meant to accomplish

>>7104818
>they all
no they don't all use it, you disingenuous faggot
besides which, that post literally says "it works", so not sure what your retarded gotcha was meant to accomplish

>>7104786
"Dionne Quintuplets – School Days, painting by Andrew Loomis, 1938"

>>7104998
relax pink

>>7103210
>AI nigger is a crab
figures

>>7103182
lol day 1 coming to /ic/, having never drawn but wanting to learn, this was the first thing I downloaded after seeing it recommended.
I hated it so much I quit the next day and spent months just copying manga characters instead of even attempting to look at another textbook

>>7105000
its not disingenuous you fucking retard. its fact. actual artists use loomis. they dont do every single step. theyve mastered a lot of teh basics and can skip a lot of steps or do without parts of the construction, but you can literally see them fucking on youtube right now with the loomis heads and bodies for construction. literally go fuck yourself faggot.

>>7105258
saying "all big name artists use loomis" is patently disingenuous, you illiterate fucking nigger

>>7105231
hows your progress?

>>7103182
he knew it worked because he studied under Bridgman and 90% of his books are basically simplified Bridgman cliffnotes

>>7107023
completely and utterly retarded
loomis wrote about EVERYTHING, composition perspective landscapes design while (((bridgman))) only farted out out hasty anatomy sketches - nothing more
both vilppu and hogarth were right when they shat on bridgmans stiff dead poses

>>7107023
so Bridgman is better than loomis for a beg?

>>7107023
>Bridgman cliffnotes
>Repeat stupid muttoid deco art faces for 100 times until you can draw a perfect circle
Lack of pussy also severely damages your cognitive skills

>>7104807
rendering is not drawing. Its like posting a picture of cereal and asking how to cook.

>>7108131
leyendecker was gay tho and look where that got him

>>7108450
>rendering is not drawing
The state of ice permaprebegletcels

>>7103182
>>7103204
>>7103207
>>7103215
you guys are genuinely dumb. thats the issue you have so much trouble with art, you genuinely cant think through things.

This is absolute 95 iq retard normie discourse, just babble

>>7108477
Leyendecker had zero imagination and sadly reached his peak when he doodled cigarette ads

>>7109067
pyw then smartass.

>>7109239
this is like saying picasso stole from da vinci because he also drew a guy sitting
it wouldn't even be bad if this WERE copied, but it's literally just another depiction of a horse rearing u schizo retard

>>7109239
Different breed of horse, different lighting, complete lack of muscle detail in the right pic, how did he draw that?
Leyendecker did not peak with cigarette ads, you know nothing apparently. Just Google him, I'm not going to spoon feed you.

yewchewb grifters trying to sell their courses have better resources for learning art than /ic/

>>7110652
>but it's literally just another depiction of a horse
ah yeah, forgot to mention he fucked up the hind leg muscle even though he had this reference

>>7110652
>>7110661
literally nothing worth mentioning shows up when searching Leyendickhead. the dude didn't even know his materials, all his white backgrounds have faded and yellowed drastically. you fags are admiring a dude who didn't even care if his works last more than 40 years.

>>7109239
i hate layondicker, and his painting is far better than the right
>but hurr durr you can't paint a horse rearing

>>7110696
>>7111728 here, his paintings were made for reproduction, nobody used lightfast materials for that shit, frazetta painted with literal mickey mouse branded supplies
the industry went out of its way to use fugitive pigment to drive costs down

>>7109067
so is IQ posting spam

>>7109067
pyw retard

>>7109239
Who makes these fucking pictures?

>>7113241
(You) mama

>>7103246
but like HOW

>>7105218
the truth always hurts drawabox-niggas
because they've settled for the crutches forever

>>7104818
a guy in a wheelchair can buy a premium bike, too. does that mean it can jumpstart his legs?

>>7113594
buy cheap sketchbooks that you can easily take anywhere and build a habit of sketching anything and everything whenever you are bored.
instead of reaching for your phone, make a sketch. doesn't matter if it's a 30s or 5 min sketch, draw. draw draw draw as much as you can. have fun, experiment, be interested.
waiting for someone at the mall? sitting in a park? draw. challenge yourself, be ready to make mistakes, lose the fear of the blank canvas / white page.

digital painting is loaded with gimmicks and tricks that give the impression that you've made something great. it is way harder to make a pencil sketch look interesting and deep.

forbid yourself to trace or drawabox at least until you feel that 5 out of 10 sketches actually turn out decent.

>>7113760
My fastest, roughest drawings still take me several hours to complete. I would draw a lot more if I could actually doodle something whenever I happened to have free time rather than having to go out of my way to set aside big chunks of time specifically for drawing, but I'm not sure how I could speed up that much without some massive breakthroughs in my understanding and/or process.

>>7113787
I feel like all of /ic/ is so obsessed and focussed on construction and completely ignores the mental exercise that is the most important pillar of your art skills.

can you post one of your fatest, roughest drawings? it sounds like you're talking about sketching something out in detail. what i mean is you have to train your eye to be able to plan a picture before you even make the first lines. if you do some urban sketching, you choose an interesting angle and the first thing ideally is how much you want to be represented on the paper of that particular scene. say, there's a tree, a garbage bin casting a long shadow and an old store front. what do you want to include in your picture of that scene? the tree is to tall, where do you cut it off? how do you set the values? if you don't do these steps before you start drawing, you end up with a messy composition and the essence of the sketch will be unclear. do you focus on the large, dark shadow of the garbage bin? or does the shadow of the tree on the house interest you the most?

I hope I get my point across. drawing skills are not just about getting the anatomy of your anime waifu right or being able to redline /beg/ drawings correctly. can you produce a picture that is interesting to others?

>porn = poison
it is way harder to make an everyday life scene interesting than it is to draw some obnoxious porn pic. porn is ALWAYS interesting, because we are sexual beings. anything showing nudity draws our attention, even if it sucks, even if you are the worst beg of all. so STOP drawing porn and get bluepilled on drawing the mundane, doing your best to put your skills to a test. if you manage to make an urban sketch of a boring street corner interesting, you will improve massively.

you need to read loomis because... because you just do!!!!
nevermind the fact that his art is atrocious
or that he has hardly any finished works
or that he doesn't use his own techniques in the book
or that nobody has ever drawn well using loomis
you still need to read it because.... ITS IN THE STICKY!!

>>7113787
you're just shit at drawing and dressing that fact up
get a fountain pen and draw directly

>>7114561
yeah he/she/it >>7113787 didn't post his fastest, roughest drawings bc apparently he can't do a quick 20sec sketch that looks like something

I'm currently working through head and hands. How do I find the axis? He only uses it on like 1 page and the explanation is kind of vague. I've just been starting with the brow and center lines and guessing the tilt.

>>7115322
To clarify, I'm referring to the nail he puts through the ball.

>>7114553
You are calling this atrocious? Care to explain why?

>>7117254
now post the construction used for that

>>7117254
nta but I'm bored by this dusty ass crap after just a few seconds.
throwing the ball right back at ya.
tell me now, why should this be anywhere else than in front of a pissrail in some shitty pub?

>>7117254
something's off with that neck

>>7118176
redline it then faggot if you're so smart. you got nothing on master loomis.

>>7103182
I think he couldn't draw and this book is a psyop