/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>7093527
draw what u like :-)

i hate replying to this post but its a great example of something i like to point out to many a beginner
this is what happens when you have no patience and rush everything. look at the haphazard hatching and ask yourself if OP actually slowed down and tried to think while working. now use OP as an example and slow the fuck down so you can actually make gains.

>The artistically challenged couldn't do it so it must not work for anyone.

>>7093527
It's not a Bridgman or Loomis problem. Both Bridgman and Loomis were great artists in their own right and great teachers, both widely recommended by pretty much every artist who has ever made it.
You on the other hand are some faggot on an imageboard afllicted by the Dunning-Kruger effect.

Jesus fucking christ did you really need another thread just to cry about some other anon? Go fucking draw already.

>>7093634
He's not complaining about Pawell he's using Pawell as "evidence" that Bridgman and Loomis are useless. Pawell isn't the target, he's the weapon.

>>7093634
CAN'T YOU SEE IM TRYING TO FUCKING DRAW

>>7093634
>>7093638
it's the Pawell Boys versus the Cris Boys.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxE6wEuLHQ0

>>7093638
>He's not complaining about Pawell
not only is it possible for someone to make a thread with ulterior motives, not actually caring about the direct topic, but on /ic/ it's pretty clear that those sort of threads are made regularly. I would not assume OP is pure of heart. though maybe they are and simply ignorant (as >>7093584 points out).

>>7093527
Dudes a fucking autist and his autismo brain can't process the drawing process they teach why are people so obsessed over this?

>>7093662
Chances are good that it's a certain anti-construction schizo who believes that the only TRUE way to learn to draw the form is to be a heckin' ingenue and reinvent the wheel by himself and anyone who uses construction is a hack. Also hates anything that isn't MUH REALISM and looks down his snoot at countless artists who are without a doubt much better than he is. Also never, ever posts his work to show how he measures up to his idealistic standards (naturally).
Hasn't been christened yet AFAIK, but I've run into this fag more than once.

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>>7093672
soda i like you but you're really not capturing the pawell energy with these

>>7093670
anon you type like that 1 guy who had a meltdown about fwap being an awful book who argued with everyone to bump limit

>>7093678
this is it, im feeling the lumpy kino. Just need to add some aimless hatching

>>7093679
The last bump-limit-argument I had was weeks ago, wiith ONE obsessed autist, on an entirely different board. I additionally have absolutely nothing against FWAP or Loomis. You got the wrong anon, anon.

ok i have question what are you even trying to make? do you have a story to tell?

Can googly eyes anon actually draw?

Imma go eat & sleep now. I'm tired.

There are 2 threads active rn about this guy. I honestly don't understand how you can't have the self awareness to notice you are doing something wrong since there hasn't been any changes

>>7093709
nice forms

>practicing digitally
What the fuck is your problem? Is it so bad to take a sheet of paper and a pencil? Do you really think that being a beginner you will achieve the subtlety of the strokes that the Bridgeman technique requires? The lines in your drawing appear to be made with a marker.

Stop being a faggot and get your hands dirty with some graphite.

>saving someone elses drawings just to shitpost

>>7093844
Thanks mate!
>>7093865
OP is a faggot. More at 11'

>>7093917
Why not just post proof these books work when they clearly dont? OP showed an example of someone who has studied these books twice over, copying every single figure at least 3x

>>7093715
About as well as Pawell.

>>7094010
>copying=studying
lol

>>7094010
>OP showed an example of someone who has studied these books twice over, copying every single figure at least 3x
Pawell hasn't done that. At most, he makes shitty copies of a few figures every few pages, then calls the book "done"

What the fuck are we even arguing about here? Everyone knows pawell doesn't even use the books the way the authors suggest. No one's saying the books are a magic pill to mastery. They give you information, present methods to experiment with, and clarify some common issues, but it's up to you to replicate the life drawing experience.

>>7094035
step aside, it's time to draw

>>7094010
>when they clearly dont?
see >>7093584

yor forger

>>7094089
Well What can I do to get on the right track?
I WISH THEY'D TAKE SOME OF THESE KNIVES OUT MY BACK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcAt3le3oas

>>7093857
>Do you really think that being a beginner you will achieve the subtlety of the strokes that the Bridgeman technique requires? The lines in your drawing appear to be made with a marker.
most of the bridgman drawings were made with a piece of charcoal on a six foot long stick drawn on a canvas above his head while he was drunk off his ass. there is no subtlety of stroke you fucking midwit

>>7094108
>I believe everything I watch on youtube
Ron Lemen is a dirty scam liar. Bridgman books were printed from his sketchbook. Those giant classroom drawings have the same diagrams, but are not the same ones in his book. Bridgman simply memorized the same diagrams and repeated them over and over again, throughout his teaching career. Also, for some reason people believe that lie that Bridgman didn't write his own books. Again, another Ron Lemen lie.

>>7093646
>>7093645
clean af

>7094114
Well its a good thing (you) know the truth

>>7094182
I apologize for my dramatic post, but I also just want to remind you that I lost all but 15 seconds typing that out. everything here on /ic/ is just for fun anyhoo

>>7093527
FACT: Every minute spent in a Pawell thread causes you to LOSE GAINS.

Take back what's been stolen from you, complete your studies for the day. Every drawing counts.

I like pawell, he's a fun guy. I just post here to take a beak from doodling :3

>>7094035
are you upset???

>>7093527
>So what is the actual way to improve?
Observe. Drawing is just looking at things real good until you understand them.

>>7094531
I guess

>>7094495
I'm always at the maximum state of upset.

>>7094201
TEN studies?
are you high that would take me like 2 months

>>7094754
Holy soda is actually making it.

Maybe the key is not wasting your time in any of the shit crab books like pawell and actually just drawing what you want to

>>7094830
>Maybe the key is not wasting your time in any of the shit crab books like pawell and actually just drawing what you want to
this was always the key. There's a reason why artists drew nude figures for most of history

>>7094833
Where does drawing wrinkly old atrophied men, and potato with tumors "heads" fit into this?

>>7093534
B-but anon I'm getting close to my 30s I don't want to become a mage before master the craft of drawing my waifu.

>>7095038
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>>7095017
stop bullying pawell, these are human figures. Where is the demonic chunky blobs with no light source hatching

>>7095090
I just want him to rethink his learning approach. I am tired, I'll grab some grub and hit the hay.

But seriously, is there anything that can save Pawell?

>>7095112
Maybe if he does Bret Eviston's figure drawing course. He was better when he went through Art and Science of Drawing

>>7093527
this Pawell1234 is the reason why I kept arguing on here over and over again that /beg/ should keep their '''''fucking''''' hands off of Loomis and drawabox in the very beginning and first build an understanding of their own but noooooooo-

wtf did I get memed into copying Bridgman twice?
should my /beg/ ass give up and do something else?

>>7095159
>https://youtu.be/FupeKX4NQsQ?si=ao6y3uxUUltrRHBt
Bridgman is for /int/ if you are a beginner, don't bother.

>>7095157
>first build an understanding of their own
Why would I try to reinvent the wheel when people much smarter and more experienced than I am can explain all this shit to me instead in a fraction of the time and without any risk of me coming to any wrong conclusions?

>>7095159
The whole purpose of copying Bridgman is learning his aesthetic, not learning anatomy. People who study Bridgman are already good at drawing. Fun fact. Frazetta studied Bridgman.

>>7095165
because your style will be a mere copy of their shit
because there is a high chance to go full Pawell and stay there forever
because using crutches right away without understanding the most basic ideas of what you are trying to do is t. worst process imaginable.

drawabox, Loomis, Bridgeman ... all this shit is made for one purpose and this one purpose alone: "get popular and sell as many books as you can." it's literally a product of the liberalization of art prodution to the masses (hobbyfication you might say), capitalist greed and dick measuring. who's got the longest dick? Loomis, Proko, Bridgeman?

DaVinci did fucking anatomy studies. art academies used to regularly go to hospital auditoriums to study bodies during autopsies. too edgy for this day and age ofc.
drawabox is the warm, farting enema of aspiring art production. it's the dragon dildo of /beg/ art that you guys readily sit on with your lubed up stretched assholes.

>>7095181
Nice shitpost, man, appreciate the effort.

>>7095157
>>7095165
2 things to consider
1. Pawell is a dumb, stuborn, talentless autist.
2. He will never change.
why waste your breath on such stupid subject?

>>7095181
If that is your work, then you should stfu.

>>7095171
>The whole purpose of copying Bridgman is learning his aesthetic, not learning anatomy
hahaHAHAHAHAHA

>>7095190
it is the typical result of drawabox to make a point my dude

>>7095186
>i don't like it, it hurts my feefees
>must be a shitpost

>>7095193
See >>7095163
watch the series before making comment.

>>7093703
BUNDA

>>7095159
I don't think pawell actually did the Bridgman grind yet. Maybe bridgman's more solid and square figures will actually help pawell because he clearly is incapable of analyzing Villpu's more organic figures.

How much would you pay for limited, signed Pawell prints?

>>7095254
>actually he needs to do bridgeman 3x
when will you crabs give it up that it very clearly doesnt work
>>7095159

>>7095181
this anon gets it

top fucking kek at crabs contradicting themselves
>>7095171
>le point of copying crabman twice is to...
>copy him twice!

>>7095265
Pawell clearly just does what he wants with no self-reflection. It's just amusing to speculate where his death march will take him next.

Pawell is literally the worst thing to happen to humanity since Jews.

I love our new /pg/ (Pawell general)

>>7095171
well I definitely don't want to learn his aesthetic, I want to draw cute anime girls.
but I want something structured to work through that's not just copying more anime girls.
therefore I was told to do a double bridge man to get good.

>only studies
>no drawings for fun
sad

>>7095311
>doesn't find studies fun
sad

>>7095241
go through bridgman yourself before parroting others

According to his blog he is drawing for almost 2 full years. How do you draw something like this after 2 years of studies and not think you are doing something wrong?

>>7095181
As much as I've seen you post this crap about not being a TWOO FWEAKIN AWTIST if you don't go out, grab a boulder, and reinvent the wheel from scratch, I don't believe that I have even one time seen you post work. Go on. Post your sketchbooks. Your studies of cadavers stolen in the night and dissected feverishly in your basement with scalpel in one hand and pencil in the other. Display your ravenous hunger for knowledge, your Byronic passion as deep as the swelling ocean. Come on. We're waiting to see how you measure up to your own standards. Please. Surely you can do this. Wouldn't it be so easy for you to PYW and humble this whole thread, right now? You *can* do that, right?

>>7095405
Sometimes it feels like he's pretending to be retarded. He's shown better work, he can copy kind of accurate, but so often the drawings are all half assed. Maybe he is kind of coping, like if it looks bad it doesn't matter, because he isn't putting in 100% anyway, so critique falls on deaf ears because pawell thinks, "well, it's not my best work... I didn't really try on that one..."
Pawell, if this is an accurate reading, it's introspection time for you.

>>7095451
He was on a good track before he started figure drawing. His construction was good, his environments were charming, he even drew decent mechanical stuff. I don't know what's going on.

his problem is that he's a christcuck

>>7095457
This is the guy who tells you your perspective is off.

>>7095459
Half the best painters in history were christcucks

>>7095481
perspective aside and this might be just me, but this has that early 2000s shitty realism SOVL. He should start doing silly doodles in between studies, would love to see what he draws

>>7095535
Unfortunately he has no imagination of his own

The only resource Pawell studied was Keys to Drawing, then his autistic obsession took over and he never learned anything new.
Now imagine if he had started with Scott Robertson instead of KtD. Imagine the autistic plan projections of Loomis blooks.

>>7093527
>So what is the actual way to improve?
1) Get a lot of references of the thing you want to learn how to draw.
2) Start by tracing the construction over references, e.g. if you’re learning heads you would trace the ball and jaw construction over the reference. The reference needs to TEACH you how it’s constructed, you can’t just make shit up.
3) Do freehand studies of references, using the construction process you figured out in step 2, and after each study overlay your drawing onto the reference. Analyze what mistakes you made and why. A bunch of quick studies where you don’t check your work will teach you NOTHING. You have to overlay your drawing onto the reference to see exactly WHERE and HOW you went wrong.
4) Do drawings from imagination using the construction method you practiced in steps 2 and 3. When something looks wrong, think critically about how your drawing is differing from the references. If you can’t figure out what’s wrong, look for references that are similar to what you’re trying to draw and do studies of them.
Repeat until satisfactory results are achieved.

>>7095581
Steps 2-3 sound like a pain in the ass in trad, if possible at all.

>>70954447
i post my work in /trad/. it's funny to me how offended some people get when you call bullshit on those "painting by numbers" gurus.

>>7095444
this is for (You) -> >>7095708

>>7095713
Not sure

>>7095641
Yeah steps 2 and 3 require a tablet ideally. I guess you could use tracing paper if you wanted to go all trad.
I prefer trad drawing and I mostly do my original drawings with pencil when I can but the value of a tablet for learning is immeasurable.

if you aren't deliberately reading the words and understanding bridgman's process, and THEN drawing 3x from life, you prolly aren't going to improve. pawell does not draw from life, and probably does not understand why he;s drawing that way.

which book teaches you how to draw interesting things with soul?

>>7095487
I like this drawing, did you do this anon? I would like a source/blog

>>7096334
Just pick up a an artbook of a twitter artist you like and copy it 3 times
You only learn style by copying others and figuring it out

>>7096356
I don't like looking at good art. Why would I look at someone being more successful than me? Fuck them.

>>7096360
I want to think you're making a joke but chances are you aren't. This is a very concerning development.

>>7096360
How the fuck is a book going to teach you to draw with "soul" without having soulful drawings in it?

>>7095444
and, as usual, the little shit stfu after i post work. always the same

>>7096360
Yeah, I went through the same phase.

That feeling never fully goes away. Just learn to channel your spite into productive action. Look at good art, leave a mean comment on the artist's page telling them to kill themselves, then do a master study of it while seething and shitting. Gains every time.

>>7093527
>So what is the actual way to improve?
Life drawing over and over again for years, but since I don't have acess to naked people irl then I just draw over and from 3d models.
It's better than nothing but not that effective.

>>7097141
please be bait

>>7095708
So to trace you need to have asian jeans, why is this shit so gatekeeping,
And also this looks like what an AI would have made in a heartbeat

>>7098444
>what an AI would have made in a heartbeat
too bad it's ink on paper. this shit sells really well, esp when i'm hanging out in bars and drawing random people. they love it and it also gets me followers everytime. too bad wacom faggots can't take their 4K screens and a printer outside of their basements and do the same. welp
stay mad bro

>>7098444
>So to trace you need to have asian jeans, why is this shit so gatekeeping
i'm not even asian and i dunno wtf you are on about. I've got +10 years of exp, never in my life have i resorted to snake oil sellers like Loomis (picrel) and learned it the hard way, which is the best way. no one except microplastics in my brain can take that skillset away from me and i waste zero time on drawing spheres and boxes. the best diet for any artist is life drawing, urban sketching, getting good in trad.
literally the entire dogma of /ic/ faggots is based on snake oil sellers like Proko, Loomis, Bridgeman; downloading endless GB of video tutorials and becoming a basement dweller. lack of social skills that inevitably comes with this process is basically poison to any aspirations of making it in art related fields, as connections with real human beings, fellow artists and art handlers is the key to developement and a decent career.
/ic/ dogma is creating basement dwelling chronic masturbators that will spend all time of the day in front of their screens, spending thousands of dollars on worthless materials and pro software because they believe it will improve their skills.

>>7098588
uhm actually, you can avoid becoming pawell by copying bridgeman twice just like pawell. Oh and you need loomis daily just like pawell does so you can have pic related. Buy my course.

>>7093527
how did you copy bridgman twice and end up with no straight lines in your drawings?

>>7098595
Pawell doesn't understand what he does and just half asses his copies without even trying to make something good.
It doesn't mean that Loomis/Vilppu/Bridgman are bad, it means you can't teach someone who doesn't want to think.

he took my wallet

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>>7099313
why are you posting your work in this thread? Are you a friend or foe of Pawell's? What's your aim?

>>7099340
see
>>7095092

if you cant learn from bridgman you are actually retarded, its the simplest breakdown of forms and anatomy there is

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>>7099496
what do you learn from? Watching YGMI in real time. Never seen u do much figures but your making pawell feel bad hes been doing gestures for years

>>7099340
I thought that was Pawell’s work.

>>7099606
I am taking Vilpuu's course (both his old and ew one for more extra exercises) from /ic/ study torrent and about to wrap up the spherical forms section.

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>>7099726
We should draw more cartoon :^)

>>7099738
like High Guardian Spice

>>7099738
was original goal but now we must aim for broader appeal

and like in scary movie 3 NO SEX
https://youtu.be/R0tfeJuG7Y0?feature=shared&t=145

WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DRAW MORE NIKE

Hampton and Huston

>>7093527
Taco and Xiao weichun

John Ruskin and Bammes

>>7093527
you need to learn how to draw accurately or draw original work
drawing a bunch of figures regularly is invaluable but if you only do it you're gonna plateau

>>7095708
>>7096955
I never consneeded, I was just taking my time.

You really think you're all that special just because you can copy what you see?
I've hardly ever copied anything at all, I'm an ADHDtarded doodlemaxxing boxdrawing loomis-loving faggot all the way, and I just now learned to do so to a level pretty similar to yours within less than 24 hours of practice. The first one took a lot of iterating to finally get my hand-eye coordination to click, then on the last attempt I nailed it to about 90% accuracy on the first take. The second one I banged out in 20 minutes or so in a single take. I also decided to neither undo nor erase while working on it. For all of it I forced myself to do it all freehand with no guidelines.

The last image is demonstrating why we loomis and boxes, so that we can do more than just copy, we can interpret and internalize reference and then freely manipulate it. My perspective is pretty shit and completely off the cuff but you get the gist of it.

Honestly it's really retarded to just completely dismiss a whole entire aspect of drawing just so you can reinvent the wheel and be "unique". Reminder that Kim Jung Gi was a constructoid working off the same principles as Bridgman and Loomis and all the rest, and he could not just draw from life but internalize extremely complex structures, anatomy of animals and humans, motorcycles, engines, cars, you name it. Honestly any accomplished constructoid is well able to draw from life or reference even better than you can and more than that actually memorize what they draw in a way that allows them to freely manipulate it as they wish with their imagination. It's not a tool to close yourself off from the world, what it truly is is a structure that allows you to understand it and internalize it in a way far deeper than just copying.

>>7100325
dude, this ms paint squiggly line stuff is the best you can do?

> t's really retarded to just completely dismiss a whole entire aspect of drawing just so you can reinvent the wheel and be "unique".
it depends on what you want and where you want to be. i for myself don't want to be another copy of a certain style that can be tought and resort to crutches like loomis. or try to be like Proko. i'm doing it the hard way and apparently it works out, as my stuff actually gets me grants, artists residencies, funds. i have external affirmation in that sense. i do understand most of /ic/ wants to be in advertisement and concept art, which is mostly for people who love to stare at screens, push pixels around and have a corner in their room trashed with pizza boxes and large Soda bottles.

>freely manipulate it as they wish with their imagination. It's not a tool to close yourself off from the world, what it truly is is a structure that allows you to understand it and internalize it in a way far deeper than just copying.
yep, that is a (t.) goal worth achieving. from what i saw, all the artists shilled on /ic/ have that strong "construction" vibe to their works and to be honest, it sucks. it seems stiff and cold. just my two cents, my dude.

show a work of yours that isn't squiggly pixel lines please, something finished where you would say "that turned out alright". it's not like your picrel has no flaws and chicken scratches allover.

>>7095092
What brush do you use for this transparency? I'm just starting to use digital and I'm completely lost.

Why do boxes filter 90% of /ic/

>>7100343
And there are plenty of artists far, far better than you using the principles of construction and perspective who also make money off their art, and are more successful besides.
>>7084603
Starting here in this thread is a whole list of incredible artists. All with unique styles, none of them "stiff" or "cold", nor are they your silly hikkikomori stereotype.

>show a work of yours that isn't squiggly pixel lines please
You're going to get my sweet-ass ballpoint doodles, and you're going to like it.

>>7100378
I like the aggressively grinning one and the head looking upwards with the large chin. the rest, not so much. i moved away from comics entirely, did that in my school years plenty. it's boring to me now and not worth persuing.

yeah there's a lot of great stuff in the thread you linked, i give you that. it's besides the point though. i'm saying YOUR mental work and understanding of form, anatomy, shapes etc is far more important than learning by heart that a body measures 7 heads top to bottom and how to shizzle a cartoon head with potato cheeks out of a sphere using Loomis. would you deny that?

>>7100378
>And there are plenty of artists far, far better than you using the principles of construction and perspective who also make money off their art, and are more successful besides.
weak statement my dude. there are people more successful and more skilled? well, duh. there's ALWAYS people out there better than you.
i can apply my skills and realize whatever project i have in mind. here's a little (200x180cm) something i'm working on atm.

>>7100352
Just use the standard round brushes with lower opacity (set to pressured), flow; and set the pressure of your tablet to your liking (don't forget to choose apply to Photoshop) You should watch some tutorial and mess around with brushes setting.

>>7100479
Thank you! I thought it was like a watercolor-like brush.

>>7094393
Isnt the meme that this is actually true ?

What did he mean by this?

>>7100325
>this is the guy spamming anti loomis threads on /ic/
Fucking grim.

>>7104586
hey nigga

>>7104586
>guy
That's a leftist white woman. Dumb and opinionated. No hot-blood male would draw such an ugly hippo.

>>7104586
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>>7104691
I make these threads too and im not him. Stop cock gobbling senile boomers

>>7104586
...Is your reading comprehension broken?

>>7100325
>constructoid is well able to draw from life or reference even better than you can and more than that actually memorize what they draw in a way that allows them to freely manipulate it
...and end up drawing 50 hours of shiny armor dragon tiddy kight paintings. gotcha..
construction corrupts the mind. you end up a copy of a copy of a copy concept artist.

only very very rarely are the people like this simpson dude who actually produce good material

>>7093527
Honestly I was kinda against the "copy bridgman twice" thing before but two dudes in /studies/ actually did it and they've improved so much.
But I do think it's less about bridgman2x being some kind of magic gmi pill and more about them just doing the work consistently and as best as they can.
I'm convinced the only real beg trap is if you give up/lack of discipline on going through your chosen resource.

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>>7104745
You're both permabeg retards and should fuck off back to whence you came.

>>7104984
copy it thrice

>>7106660
if necessary, even a quarths or fourths time

>>7106712
oh damn

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>>7107183
if you arent copying it front to back AND some upside down memory drawing, at least 8x you will never make it. Dont you know every japanese artist has done it 8x over?

This board is so fucking funny lol

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>>7098585
These ones look alright though

>>7107831
for your mama

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>>7109081
those were drawn by subus student soda

>>7094830
>Maybe the key is not wasting your time in any of the shit crab books like pawell and actually just drawing what you want to
This works for talented people, because there's countless artists who've been drawing what they want for years with little to no improvement.

>>7111229
now I'll prolly die anonymous die with promises
prolly die walkin' back home from the candy house

>>7094393
>>7101459
Santa wasn't real and my parents promised and I even saw him at the mall and I heard him at night and he ate the milk and cookies every year bro I can't believe Santa's not real.

>>7095708
Hey anon. Keep trying. If I could give you any advice about drawing women's faces though, id say something like this: every line you add to their face ages them by a decade.

Less is more. I tried inking a babies face once and it just turned into a goblin.

>>7093527
you haven't even tried copying bridgeman twice. just do 2 pages a day next to your other drawing projects. You do have other drawing projects right?

>>7101459
no, the meme is that it's not true. It's blown way out of proportion. Just draw anime if you want to get good at anime.

>>7095149
>Eviston
The second time I see this name. Who the fuck is this

If i was a permabeg like Pawell I’d chop off my dick and then kill myself.

>>7112632
where do you put the dick?

we'd have to draw with markers

>>7112733
In my cum jar.

>>7112790
>mom discovers an hero
>discovers cum jar
>mixed pickles actually
legit

>>7112632
That's where Pawell's true power lies, his indomitable spirit. It may take him 20 years to become "good," but he will make it there, he will not give up. Other people make one bad drawing and piss themselves over it.

The amount of rage from loomfags is like people who got scammed by a phonecall pretending it was learning experience

>>7114105
YGMI

>>7114805
>it was learning experience
it was a RUN-BY FRUITING

>>7114105
soda's actually getting better holy shit

>>7114807
Did you not tip them?

>>7114838
it's a guy pretending to be him

>>7115512
No, hes posted that drawing in other discords and I can tell its soda by the opacity brush he's using. I just can't believe that his art is starting to look genuinely great now

>>7115407
I'll get them, sir. Don't worry.

>>7114807
FRUIT ‘EM

>>7114838
Sodas actually going to make it


Senile boomer worshippers, not even once

>>7112552
Copy him Bryce

>>7100101
For me its the Hogarth

>>7093857
>subtlety of the strokes that the Bridgeman technique requires
good one

>>7094108
>>7094114
Yeah, there are a few online original Bridgman drawings, and they are graphite on paper. Dunno about lies, more of a myth told over and over.

>>7116774
HOEgarth??

which book will give me the mental energy to draw instead of lie in bed scrolling all day?

>>7117222
atomic habits

>>7093534
You're assuming an awful lot. For all anybody knows he spent a lot of time erasing and correcting each drawing and that's what he came up with. I know a lot of people find comfort in the "well he's not getting better because he's doing it wrong" belief, but sometimes people just reach their skill plateau that's at a level below what most people deem to be good, just like some people reach a good skill far far far faster than other artists, even when they're "just drawing"

It is insane.
Copying Bridgman isn't a meme, I can almost feel my zenkai boost. Shit is insane, I tell you what.

>>7094607
probably more like 3-5 hours. draw or get fucked

>>7117640
needs more

>>7117430
Crazy that no one has ever posted their before or after work when wasting their time copying that grifter

>>7119026
did you not tip them?

>>7119026
what do you think grifter means

>>7119026
>grifter
Bridgman has been dead for 81 years.

>>7093527
The only person I know who actually draws well says to just draw what you like for fun and work in regular figure studies/exercises and you'll improve the most of of anything else.

>>7119067
wut

>>7119026
This. kek.
in fact, the only ones that do, are those that has drawn for literal years, and thus has sheer mileage from so many sources, and still falsely claim to learn from just a single source.
either that, or they drew ugly tranny-faced aberrations, because that's what bridgturd does.

>>7120375
Can't start a fire without a spark
this pen's for hire
even we're drawing in the dark
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCFTL4IO6t4

>>7114105
>>7115512
That one is actually his :)

>>7120615
you trollin'??

>>7120615
boy u trollin

>>7120615
naw nigga you trollin'

>>7120615
well if that's the case then Drawing, WILL NEVER BE THE SAME
i'll draw alone, try so hard to rise above.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2rg1EBn8aI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czDwguPTgMI

>>7120615
naw that boy be trollin'

>>7120615
naw he trollin

>>7120615
blud is trolling

>>7120615
quit trollin'

>>7123555
sex

>>7122641
well i draw alone, hide myselff behind my shame

>>7120615
you just trollin’

>>7093527
>Studying bridgeman twice and loomis daily leads to this. So what is the actual way to improve?
Studying Bridgman twice and Loomis daily, but not being retarded.

>>7120615
troll

>>7123861
A CADILLAC DOME???

>>7123861
>>7123866
Cadillac Brome

>>7123861
>>7123878
we just need life beyond thunderdome

>>7123861
we just gotta keep drawing

>>7124466
Aw shit

>>7093527
Mr Paveleer

>>7126241
hi

>>7123861
did you study him Thrice.

>>7093527
Draw actual real people instead of the dumbed down anatomy of some ancient permabegs

>>7128024
wut

Copying bridge man makes you better at copying bridge man

>necro bumping dead threads

>>7128864
so close!

>>7128864
jannies hate us

>>7128802
Draw from actual photo references or real life instead of using another’s drawing as your reference.

>>7128901
like this?

>>7093527
Bridgman taught Rockwell.
Can't go wrong with him.

>>7128934
sam rockwell?
aw shit what up?

studying bridgman and loomis gave me this

we just need to take the initiative

>>7128934
rice

>>7128968
good

>>7128968
Soul
If you refine it a little bit more this could unironically pass as sprites for a vidya game

>>7093527
By not comparing yourself to a literal schizophrenic person like OP

>>7093527
But what if you study pawell twice instead?

>>7128901
Modern artists>real life>ancient artists for begs

>>7131738
which ones

>>7131649
Then uh

>>7128904
no…

>>7128024

>>7128024

>>7131649
Now let him do it thrice

Whats with the retarded poses no one ever uses

>>7133004

>>7133004
Which pose

>>7133096
the giant ass

>>7123861
it must not be working

>>7128904

>>7117858
or even more

>>7120615
then i guess drawing will, NEVER BE THE SAME, i'll draw alone, hide myself behind my tears. drawing will NEVER BE THE SAME
i'll draw alone, try so hard to rise above.

>>7120305
> Step one: Just draw whatever you want
> Step two: do regular figure studies and figure drawing exercises

You'll get the most improvement from just doing that over and over. Once you get to a point where you're like: "Ok, I'm pretty good now." You can study other areas where you can tell you might need improvement or to "level up" but Steps 1 & 2 are the best formula to go from zero to hero.