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I'm trying to get through this book but fuck there is so much worthless text that doesn't help me with anything

>> No.7076924
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>>7076923
>he didn't get the workbook edition

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>>7076923
the exercises are what's important
the info can be condensed in a single pic, same as keys to drawing

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>>7076930
>Squint your eyes
This whole time I thought this was a meme to make fun of Asians to paint like them?

>> No.7076938

>>7076930
anyone got a source for those glasses? aliexpress doesn't have them. You guys use these?

>> No.7076948

>>7076923
The reason why so many here recommend it is clear - nobody has actually read it

>> No.7076961

>>7076923
because it is worthless, just get fundie books and draw what you like, refer to fun dies when you get stuck. rinse, repeat
or just draw whatever you want, you eventually get better if you stick at it while drawing more things and trying to do more than you did last time, that's how i learned as as kid, and how the "artistic kids" in skill got good

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The book is good, but the theory part is really a bit boring and could have been shortened. Anyway, in chapter four the exercises begin (at least that's where I remember). It is relatively quick and definitely helps a beginner develop careful visualization. The ones in chapter six, when you draw without looking at the paper, are the most important.

>b-but Keys to Drawing...
>b-but The Natural Way to Draw
The book the OP posted will teach 70%~80% of their content in weeks, not months. I think it pays off.

And to be honest: I've never seen anyone say "I learned to draw with the book Keys to Drawing". And I see people training in the Bargue method or looking for the Russian method but I have never seen anyone who studied using Kimon Nicolaides' book. Curious, isn't it?

It's aimed at those who want to draw in a "classic" way, with a reference in front of them. Great for portraits and still life. I imagine that most of the criticism comes from those who want to draw little girls with giant eyes.

If you know of a method that makes someone progress from the first drawing to the second in four days, I would like to know.

>> No.7076973

>>7076967
Agreed
DotRSotB gets maligned because of the pseudoscience and the yappin, but the actual method is golden. Once you can do simple Krenz copies at about 80% accuracy hop on the David Finch method and go nuts

>> No.7077002

>>7076967
Can you please help me understand the "modified countour drawing" part of the book?
The instructions feel really unintelligible, mostly because I don't have any of the optional items and I only use a pen and a paper. Should I just draw my hand that's pointed towards my face as it is?

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>>7077002
Pic for reference

>> No.7077037

>>7077002
>>7077005
I learned from the first edition, I didn't have this exercise. Frankly, I think later editions added more to justify an update that may not have been necessary.

The exercise in question appears to be a variant of grid drawing, but to teach the eye to see in planes through marking on the plastic sheet. It seems useful but I'm not sure if it's essential for the program. You have to build a grid to do this.

For your reference, the original edition (my translation) contains the following relevant chapters:
>4: upside down drawing
>6: blind drawing (drawing things very slowly, without looking)
>7: negative space
>8: perspective
>9: proportion
>10: portraits
>11: light and shadow

I think the next edition included a chapter on color. Anyway, I think you can skip this exercise without major harm to the method. All the chapters I mentioned are important, but in my opinion the "key" is in 6 and 7.

>> No.7077567

>>7077037
Oh, alright. For some reason, I can't find the original edition which says you only need a pen and papers.
Thanks for the help.

>> No.7077884

>>7076923
Women are great at wasting men's time.

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>>7076923
Get the workbook instead and ignore all the text.

>> No.7078308

>>7076967
>I've never seen anyone say "I learned to draw with the book Keys to Drawing".
I learned to draw with the book Keys to Drawing.

>> No.7078328

The proportion tool they sell on their website is unironically one of the best btw.