/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Rough idea for next bunny

>>7068666
I like it.
Are you the anon who drew that pokemon (don't remember if it was actual Pokemon™ or similar) artwork the other day?
Very cute style.

I think artistotle's head was a bit too long in mine

new and dont know where to start, how can improve the fastest?

>>7068737
copy your favorite art on twitter, then redraw from memory

>>7068737

>>7068706
You've gotta look with your eyes mate

>>7068848
what DOES THAT MEAN

>>7068851
YOU'RE NOT LOOKING AT THE REFERENCES YOU'RE JUST MAKING UP THE ANGLE/ PROPORTIONS/ FACIAL FEATURES, YOU MAY WANT TO TRY SOME LOOMIS BALL MATE

>>7068857
OK loomis time

>>7068737
doing more life drawing is key, I think

I won’t draw for this thread.

>>7068875
Do it pussy nodraws

>>7068606
hi
I desperately need external feedback on the perspective I've been working on this for so long
does she look natural to you ? She's supposed to be seen from above, slighly curvilinear
also anatomy fucked ?

How long will it take for Pawel to reach /int/ at his pace?

I drew a goblin. I tried an exercise where I sit down, use no references, and draw something in under 60 minutes just from imagination. I am very happy with what I got done. I still have a long way to go and a lot more to improve but I overcame the one thing that kind of blocked me from wanting to draw and that was how slow my workflow and drawing was.

So I want to ask if anyone has any references or videos on any artists' drawing/painting process who have a fast workflow. I'm looking for where they start with a completely empty canvas or space and describe or show their thoughts and drawing process. I have been watching people like Ryan Benjamin, Bob Ross, Glen Kean's masterclass, and a bit of the automatic drawing technique. The few people I listed have really helped me noticeably improve the past week by copying and learning some of their work, techniques, and thought process. My workflow is more confident and roughly 2 to 3 times faster than it was before. I have found more references besides the one I listed but I am having trouble finding more that articulate or convey their process as well as the ones I listed. I don't know if this is the thread to ask this but any help would be appreciated.

Its an edit of that yor and anya hug image.

Please remember to Never, EVER, reply or engage with MarielX.
Spoonfeeding you for your own good.

>>7068884
Looks "fine" from the waist up, but what's up with her left leg? It looks like the knee goes inward, but the heel is straight back

>>7068938
Dont freehand your text.

>>7068882
PYW

>>7068944
yeah knee fucked
I tried to draw that heel inward so many times but I went referenceless like a retard

>>7068737
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtG4P3lq8RHHMNwxuVk0IcGRtPGHi4vN9

>>7068949
No I'm shit I admit

>>7068922
Anthony Jones (robotpencil) has a lot of stuff like that. very fast speed paints, drawing from imagination, paid and free instructional videos and livestreams explaining his process.

>>7068948
Theres no text tools where im drawing, cant do anything about it unless i add the text on another program.

>>7068954
Then you’re just a worthless nigger.

>>7068983
Then work on your penmanship tripfag. Even MSpaint has text

heads are hard

>>7068613
awesome stuff

>>7068737
why the long face?

>>7068938
Which website is this? I vaguely remember these screentone brushes

>>7068922
It looks pretty nice anon, very good for no reference. From what I've seen though, the kind of workflows you're describing only work that way because the artists have spent a long time drawing from life, and as such have internalized lots of different landscapes. It's easier for them to draw fast since they already have a pretty detailed idea of their final piece. Balance drawing both from life and from imagination, as well as the studies of other artists you're doing now, and you'll get faster in no time. If you want another artist, I'd recommend James Gurney. Lots of informational videos as well as videos of his process.

>>7069017
oops. >>7068737 was meant for >>7068706

>>7069017
Its called garyc.me, the screentones are from alternate clients, you can see which client did what drawing if you click the drawing on the gallery, shows on the bottom left part of the drawing.
One of my favorite drawings.

>>7068606

>>7069054
what does your practice / study schedule look like, to be able to draw this well??

>>7068848
is this better?

>>7069060

>>7068891
He will reach chris-chan status, never /int/

>want to loosen up so the figures don't look stiff
>but also want them to be anatomically accurate

>>7069054
Is this supposed to be an improvement over OP image? You destroyed any sense of depth.

>>7069122
nope just practicing

>>7068706
>>7069079
Block out the form of the portrait in simple to digest shapes. It looks like you're overwhelming yourself with all those details. You can also measure the reference image out if you're having trouble eyeballing it. Don't be afraid to iterate on each portrait, drawing it multiple times to understand it.

Whoever recommended Proko's videos on figure drawing, thanks

That stuff is really useful. I'm only on the bean torso but even that helps a ton.

>>7069224
THIS NIGGA DRAWIN' BEANS

Tips on drawing necks and connecting head to torso?
Strangely this is my weak area

The more I draw the more I realise the "just draw" fags are right.

Got back into drawing like 2 weeks ago, mostly focusing on fundies. Made this in class today (+reference)
Just tryna get better overall really

Some feedback?

Also I love hime cut so much but I can never draw it properly.
The ultimate pain.

>>7069401
she has a giant cranium

>>7069405
That's anime for you

>>7068891
Never, most likely. He's wheel-spinning, like chris chan or Andrew Dobson

I feel like you guys only ever respond to the shitty art

>>7069437
I mean yeah, giving feedback to shitty art is easier when you can see the obvious flaws but when you see mid to high ints most of the feedback is blatanty wrong or just nitpicks.

>>7069437
Well, we post our shitty art to ask for help.
Its easier to give tips to someone who is doing wrongly than someone who is doing well.

Do you really study Drawing Comics the Marvel Way or is it just a meme for people who are just starting?

>>7069441
Do you want to draw comics the marvel way?

>>7069441
It's a book made to trick kids into learning fundamentals when drawing superheroes. It will teach you fundies but its not the only way to learn them

>>7069083
thanks anon. so you really are just a "just draw" chad

>>7069441
It's branded as a kid's book but when you ask around different professionals they all say they learned everything from this book

https://youtu.be/nZHU91rRkFQ

>>7069405
well that is intentional.
anything about the gesture or other anatomy issues though? I can tell there are issues but not what they are

>>7069441
I feel like I read this thing as a child and used it whenever I doodled but never actually improved.

>>7069441
This looks like a clever blend of simple gesture and very basic anatomy. Seems like a beginner could benefit, would pair with Vilppu or Nickolaides.

>>7069476
>Nicolaides
this book is either extremely based, or pure mid-wittery, but I can't decide which it is

After few days of practicing eyes and nose i decided to try and draw face. How is it going so far? I can change if i get it wrong

>>7069477
It's old school based, people don't like it because it makes you work your ass off, it's not fun like Loomis or Vilppu

>>7069476
some of the pages look "draw the owl" tier but that's a doohinkus straight out of FWAP, although fwap recommends just using ovals to build flesh over the stick limbs

>>7069483
>>7069483
Fuck just comparing right now in picture i see how much eyes are tilted. I think face needs to be slimmer and longer but not sure.

>>7068884
dont approach drawing figures in perspective if you do not know how to draw simple objects, like a box in that perspective + how to cut the box in half, add other simple forms to it, etc.

>>7068922
Look up some resources on atmospheric perspective. Set a keybind to switch to greyscale so you can check values as you paint.

>>7069017
I like this, good job anon.

>>7069383
You are not measuring angles correctly in the reference. Draw a plum lines as necessary to compare, it will help you.

>>7069483
Honestly dont hate this. You kinda got most things wrong, but the face still looks cute. keep it up.

>>7068666
solid except for the viewer left hand on the viewer left figure. Also think the ear looks bad, try lowering it to make it look cuter. Fix that and you're golden. Probably my favourite post in the thread.

>>7069483
This reminds me of Ed Benes' art style.

>>7069499
>plum lines
It's plumb, anon. Comes from latin word for lead.

>>7069511
Thank you for the spelling correction

>>7069499
Oh i aprecciate that, will keep that in mind . Although i wasnt going for a direct copy. But i will def use plumb lines for future projects!

How do I FEEL the form.

>>7069483
flip your drawings horizontally with the help of your phone my dude

Last thread everybody was talking about how [insert book of your choice] is a beg trap.
So tell me /int/, what's something that isn't a beg trap?

>>7069532
If you can rotate the object you're drawing around in your head, at least that's how I interpret it.

>>7069538
just drawing

>>7069538
Scott Robertson books are good, but they require you to not be an absolute beginner and are quite technical.

James Gurney too.

>>7069546
I hate "Just draw"fags
I'm with the "Just don't draw" gang.

wanna redraw it digitally and maybe color idk

>>7068282
Decided to polish it a bit more

How's this?
Any words?

>>7069459
hope this helps

>>7069564
holy giraffe

Any feedback? What looks wrong?

Feeling a little more confident with this drawing, but still feel like I should have more of a grasp on this stuff after 7 months.

>>7069562
lips look very lipsticky (is that a word?).
lose that dark line on the lower lip

>>7069546
That’s also a trap. I just drawed but never rose about stagnated permaprebeg.

>>7069593
Her hips are parallel, but her left one is 1.5x longer. Also legs are bit too short.

>>7069563
Well, that's a start, but you really need to work on arms, these sticks won't do

>>7069599
The /beg/ trap is inside of you, don't blame the tools

>>7068613
Ngmi, digital westoid. Some talent but not near enough
>>7068666
Gmi.
>>7068677
Ngmi, schizo lines clear sign of not having it.
>>7068706
Ngmi, digital while /permabeg/
>>7068737
Trad so you might have a chance
>>7068884
Ngmi, digital while /beg/
>>7068922
Ngmi, digital while /permabeg/
>>7069017
Switch to trad for a while and you could be gmi
>>7069054
Ngmi, digital
>>7069232
Gmi
>>7069383
Has potential but you're doing digital so hard to say.
>>7069401
Gmi
>>7069483
Gmi
>>7069553
Gmi
>>7069563
Ngmi, schizo lines
>>7069593
Ngmi, 7 months in and still shading as a crutch

>>7069614
You forgot to post your work to validate such bold claims

>>7069631
I don't draw I'm more of a curator you see.

>>7069634
Thanks for letting us know, make sure to preface that next time.

>>7069614
>Ngmi, schizo lines clear sign of not having it.

fuck off, schizo lines are the purest and the most unfiltered way of expressing ideas asap.

>>7069637
No worries mate, happy to share my eyes.

>>7069614
Schizo lines is how you draw without reference

>>7069662
There’s this retarded notion on /ic/ that a sketch should be indistinguishable from inked lineart.

>>7069662
>>7069638
>unable to differentiate between searching lines and schizo lines
Many such cases of ngmi.

You guys aren't seriously engaging with the nodraw bait, are you?

study wip of an image i saw on discord.

>>7069674
I’ll engage your ass with my dick, faggot!

>>7069383
I'd ask for source but know the gender will disappoint me.

This is a preliminary thing for a very cheap commission I am doing for someone (Don't worry, it's super cheap and is just more or less so I can get experience for doing client work, I won't be doing any further ones until I get more confident/improve), but man I struggle with the hands, and I struggled with her legs and making the hips look right.

It's Menat from Street Fighter if anyone is wondering, critiques are welcome as I am gonna make some further adjustments to it tomorrow, so any critiques on how to improve the face and hands would be appreciated.

drain wallets for all they have if u have the opportunity. If people want to buy from you who cares if ur not at the level u want ur art to be.

>>7069697
bro just use reference
commission = work = job = get shit done as best as possible
dont "practise" while doing comms

>>7069700
>>7069697
meant to reply to u

>>7069697
Symbol drawing and linework are your biggest issues not really something you can fix overnight. Just need a lot of mileage and an above average iq.

>>7069697
hope you dont mind me asking, but where did you find comms? never thought people would be willing to pay for beg art

>>7069704
Symbol drawing as in the eyes? Could you point out other symbols?
If you accuse something of being symbol mind pointing out what those are?

I am better with more cartoony/anime like eyes, but not realistic ones at the moment. But I was thinking of redoing the eyes. Anything else?
>>7069700
Fuck no.
>>7069701
Hence why this is gonna be a one off until I actually get better.

>>7069499
>dont approach drawing figures in perspective if you do not know how to draw simple objects, like a box in that perspective + how to cut the box in half, add other simple forms to it, etc.
I can draw a cube from that perspective do you mean she doesn't look right

>>7069716
>Could you point out other symbols
The head(eyes, nose, mouth, eyebrows, hair, that thing in the hair), hands and torso.

Reposting /here/. Opinions?

>>7069716
nta but do you know what symbol drawing is? Cause it's not just the eyes, its your fingers and mouth as well, sys8a

Only a small study today because I'm exhausted from work
And this TRASH paper fucked it all up when I tried to apply some marker colors
Never buying Daler Rowney again, fuck this company and their shit products

>>7069720
What do you think?

You're ngmi desu

>>7069725
Hold the fuck up, I agree with you on the eyes, mouth and how flat the band looks, but the TORSO is a symbol? Can you explain how it is? No offense but you seem to NOT be explain WHY something is a symbol and are just throwing it around without yourself even realising it, almost sounds like you are assuming that if something looks slightly off that makes it a "symbol". Hell I could even buy the hand being a "symbol" but that clearly doesn't help at all.

>>7069729
It's when you are drawing something that looks "flat" with no dimension or depth or any sense of form. What you think you are seeing rather than what you are actually seeing.

It's very difficult to draw lips for me I do attempt to give them a sense of depth/form but it's very difficult.

>>7069758
she looks alright to me but I probably gaslighted myself, that's why i'm asking you anon

>>7069447
Is there anything worst than trying to learn fundies after years and years of relying on style?

Is there anything worst than trying to learn fundies after years and years of relying on style?

>>7069767
fundies is style, and style is fundies. They're the same thing, really. Don't believe the atelier fag's lies that style is something different from fundamentals.

It's all shape and visual library, at the end of the day. Either you can draw those shapes accurately, or not.

>>7069759
>hand
Yes it's symbol drawing, her right hand is even the wrong way around
>torso
Same issue as with the hands, it lacks anatomy, perspective and form. To me it just looks like guesswork to me that is symbol drawing, maybe you would define it in a different way. Doesn't really matter.

>>7069781
>looks like guesswork to me that is symbol drawing

...that's just shoddy anatomy then, not symbol. Your definition is clearly "If it looks wrong, it's symbol".

Can you explain WHY the torso lacks Anatomy, Perspective (?) and form?

Also regarding her right hand, it's twisted around hence why the thumb is on the right side. Is it because due to the lack of detail it looks like it's the wrong way around? I actually do see that issue.

But for real, don't sum up all issues as "symbol", because that's VERY confusing and I'm actually here to get critiques so I can improve and learn from her (especially when I do some final tweaks to her tomorrow), just saying "Oh, that's symbol (wrong, bad etc.)" is not helpful.

Can't you like, since I assume you are good at drawing, red line it so I know what I need to do? Would be very helpful.

>>7069708
Not the same anon as one you asked but i thought you'd be interested
You can actually go to newgrounds and commission easily. I'm a beg and did commission for someone for like 7 bucks (5 originally because i think that was fair price) but they liked it so gave extra 2.

>>7069791
Okay I'll respond one last time
>right hand
The right hand can't twist that way with the backside of the hand towards the viewer the thumb will be on the opposite side
>torso
The left side of her torso is closer to the viewer but the right side appears bigger. Her boobs are misaligned with the perspective of her torso. Her head is too far back and to the left(fixed by shrinking her rightside and pushing the head forwards in perspective a bit) she has no neck, no clavicle, no visible form of muscles there are so many more issues. Idk what you want anon it's a mess and to me it's symbol drawing. But whatever keep on arguing about how your shit drawing isn't shit. Maybe channel that energy into improving instead unless that is a lost cause like this discussion is.

>>7069683
>>7069727
These are good

>>7069814
Thanks for explaining. That wasn't so hard was it, unless you were just hoping for me to get annoyed or something.

Also I know the drawing is shit. So nice putting words in my mouth. I can't improve if I don't know how to, just a shame you couldn't have said all that stuff to begin with.

>>7069727
Hell yes i love kaijus

>>7069842
Alright dude, we get it. Either take the critique or ignore it, you gonna argue for 30min everytime you get a critique you disagree with when a simple fuck off is sufficient? Seems like a massive waste of time.

Learning through "drawing on the right side of brain"
I'm at the drawing upside down chapter and the book is acting like I should be super satisfied for managing to trace this but I think it looks like shit. It's kinda upsetting.

>>7069871
You don't have to do that shit, it's just an exercise for retards who say "How can I start drawing when I can't even draw a straight line" if you're past that stage then just start drawing instead of doing that book.

>>7069871
It's not supposed to be good. It's an exercise meant to force you into actually observing what you have in front of you instead of relying on simbol drawing. Genuinely the most important first step in your journey and something that you need to hammer down before anything else. I see far too many beginners jump into construction when they are unable to see what they have in front of them.

>>7069856
Not if the issue isn’t properly explained.

I wasn’t even drawing this evening btw.

>>7068677
looks like shit, kill yourself ugly

>>7069697
Please use references, there's a LOT of anatomy errors and explaining each one would be too many corrections to explain ex. her back leg being turned almost 180 degrees. I don't think you're quite there yet to be doing poses from memory. But the effort is there, keep that up!

>>7069079
Doing drawings of guys with full beards like that might be difficult because you're making yourself estimate where their chins are under all of that.
More practically it looks like you've given his head a downward tilt that it didn't have in the painting

>>7069727
Fucking awesome. What markers/pens do you use?

starting a 30 day challenge with fwap. it's been fun so far.

what should i focus on studying/practicing if i want to draw more stuff like the blame or cyberpunk aesthetics where the focus is more on the tecnology/landscape than on drawing people?

>>7069932
Here's a crazy idea anon, what if you focus on stuff like the blame or cyberpunk aesthetics where the focus is more on the technology/landscape than on drawing people.

>>7069932
try drawing body horror

My favorite piece so far, done in prismacolors. I wanted the legs too look messed up, but I think i messed them up a little too much. Not the worst color saturation. How do yall feel?

>>7069932
Perspective and product design. Scott Roberston's How to Draw is a great book for what you're trying to do. Then look for some cool references and apply what you learned.
If I remember correctly Nihei was an architect before getting into manga.

My favorite piece so far, done in prismacolors. I know the legs are wobbly, but I think the colors are okay. Need to get better at backgrounds

>>7069946
if i saw an album with this cover i'd probably check it out /10

>>7069914
You're baiting anons to respond to your drawing aren't you? I'll bite.
>>7068677
I think it's really nice and I like the looseness, but it sacrifices some readability for example the chest area. What's that going down her cleavage? If it's a tie, it's not sitting on her chest properly making the upper chest area look like one large lump.

>>7068606
some oil paintings i did, any advice would b v helpful :))

TIME TO LEARN THE HAND

how about y'all put down the sissy porn for a couple minutes and do some actual drawing?

>>7069922
Thanks. You’re right I was trying so hard to do anatomy from memory but yeah I’m clearly not ready.

I just got confrontational with that other guy because he wasn’t fully explaining my issues, which annoys me a lot. But regardless I’ll go back to doing anatomy studies and such after I’m done with this thing.

>>7069964
Very cool! Love the colors and the dynamic use of movement in your composition.

day 2 of drawing every day. I used a pic I took in ffxiv as reference obviously. I suck without a reference I guess.
Tell me how I'll never make it

getting back into drawing recently. I wanted to draw a comic about power rangers being in an isekai world and started on a few action poses. Got a good idea about the helmet designs but I'm not sure what to do for the actual suit design.

>>7070024 (me) my phone betrayed me... I thought the image was upright sorry bros

>>7070028
Crop and resize image and it should upload right

>>7070024 2nd time's the charm

>>7069758
sorry if I piss you off but is this one better
I swear I thought the first one was ok at least perspective wise, you make me feel like my eyes are shit

>>7070041
forgot pic..

>>7070007
I dig it! Definitely can see effort in the anatomy and pose. I think you're off to a good start, but maybe try some more dynamic poses next to push yourself more. They are hard to get right, but it is a very good exercise.
You have great potential, keep going!

>>7070047
I'm pretty sure I'm only a good mimic though, the only thing drawing this taught me today was that I'm not completely retarded with colors.

>>7069683
why did you give her a hole in the nose lol

still been doing random still lifes each day to help train observation

>>7068681
>>7069499
Thank you for your comments!

> Are you the anon who drew that pokemon (don't remember if it was actual Pokemon™ or similar) artwork the other day?
Yes. I come and go around these parts, though not consistently.

> solid except for the viewer left hand on the viewer left figure. Also think the ear looks bad, try lowering it to make it look cuter. Fix that and you're golden.
I'll definitely keep this in mind, hands are still a weak spot for me and it's clear I'm not sure what to do with ears either.

>>7070007
You've barely started, using reference is fine, man. Besides getting to a point where you can draw without reference takes time, a lot of time. Also based for playing the correct Au'Ra subrace, if I still had 14 installed I'd draw my girl so you'd feel less alone about your skill.

>>7069926
Thanks you!
>What markers/pens do you use?
Micron ink pens and these things someone gave me.

couldn't figure out the gestures today, can someone with a higher IQ redline the mistakes

>>7070058
No one can draw from their head at first unless they are a prodigy or autistic. References are good, and even great artists use them. As you get better at drawing from memory, you can then create your own ideas from imagination, but you'll have the skill to confidently execute them. I drew a lot of dogs and scissors from memory before I drew this thing. It's not great, but it's a start.
>>7069946

>>7069122
It is better though? The form is less stiff, and it has better appeal than OP's weird anime face on a body that doesn't belong.

>>7070047
>>7070076
>>7070086
thank you for the encouragement. I appreciate it.

The Proko figure drawing guide gave good advice on breaking things up into shapes

However I find the heads of more unusual creatures a bit hard to break into shapes. For the entelodont I kind of just did a bunch of straight lines that sort of followed the contours of it's head, the bear I tried to make into cylinders, spheres, or other stuff but it looked weird.

>>7070145
Just like with humans knowing the shape of the skull and skeleton helps a lot with consutrction.

>>7070171
I think grizzly bears got a lot of muscle and fat over their skull, cause it definitely doesn't have that wide back like the living bear does

I wonder if the method of just roughly drawing lines that follow the shape of the head and then turning those into shapes works well with other stuff.

>character I wanna draw has a lot of accessories that I find hard to draw
>go to csp material store
>there's a material for literally every piece of jewelry I have trouble drawing
i'm gonna go down a dark path, my bruddas

does /beg/ think i'm improving? can't really tell
tried redrawing something very old and ehh

>>7070274
also: a collage of my studying today (doesn't include some 45 sec gesture studies). anatomy is hell

>>7070274
There's little difference

How do I improve the coloring and lineart?

I don't really know what tools to use or what process to follow to start drawings in photoshop

I’ve been studying figure drawing for a while, but I’ve got to wondering: is it better to focus all my efforts and time on just figure drawing, or should I distribute my time and effort among various different things like studying clothes, portraits, and landscapes?
On one hand, the former will lead to faster improvement, though I risk burning out, whereas the latter leads to more variety (and fun, maybe), but will slow my improvement and risks making me into someone who does a lot but is shit at everything.
I’ve been doing figures for maybe 6 months now, probably a bit more. All I ever do is follow Vilppu lectures and practice poses. I’m not interested in making proper drawings because I don’t feel I have a “full toolbox” so to speak. I plan on working on figures until I’m done with all the lectures and am happy with their quality, then moving on to portraits so I can learn to draw faces. Then go clothes, yada yada. I have a feeling this is too inefficient of a progression, though. With this plan, it’ll take me years until I can actually do anything. Any suggestions or advice?

>>7069614
Why did you call me ngmi when I'm doing digital

>>7069931
noice blooks

>>7070300
pain
i guess i should keep studying anatomy? maybe do more figures? and color/shading, of course...the road to improvement is long

>>7070311
do you even know what kind of things you want to draw?

i am so sick of FDFAIW
please recommend a fun course i feel so bogged down

>>7070326
The one in the left is way better because it's more obviously a child, and the pose is much more expressive for the character. The one on the right is also not following her center of gravity and should fall over or stumble

>>7070326
I assume you took a break. that doesn't look like five years of progress (no offense)

>>7070399
>break
yes, see >>7070274. i’ve studied pretty consistently this year, though

>>7069401
Who is she?

bit of portrait practice

I've decided to give up drawing for good, but I was going through some of my art for nostalgia's sake. Anyone mind if I dump?

Alright how shit is this?

fwap

any thoughts?

personally i really like how this raw render looks, but maybe i should avoid to stick to hard round brush

>>7070517
Hands are wonky, but overall looks soulful.

>>7069674

>>7069449
just make sure to push yourself to draw a little better than yesterday or challenge yourself to try new things, you'll make

>>7070558
based

still beg after all these years. can't really complain since i had a two year ragequit between 2021 and 2023 but it's still embarrassing. thought that since 2018 was mentioned i would find a comparison image from that time period to publicly humiliate myself with. i think these are the same character i really cant remember but i drew this mid/early 2018 and it depicts a guy around the same age as the one i'm drawing currently. still have to fix the tie and other things around the neck area like the collar part of the robe to make it look less flat but feel free to point out anything else you see

>>7070569
i like the clothing details/folds and hair on this

>>7070618
You definitely improved a lot, the hand holding the suitcase is kinda weak but other than that I think this could pass if you were aiming for a rough/simple style.

>>7070517
i really like this. only thing i can see is that the fingers on the hand facing away are a bit longer than the fingers on the other hand but i really like this colouring style
>>7070623
yeah i have a hard time with the back of fists i kept trying to use mine as reference but my hands are kinda fucked. i'll figure it out eventualy

>>7070488
kinda shit
but that's normal, just keep at it (and use ref)

I’m still not drawing.

>>7070634
I wanna draw but I got calluses now so I'm breaking for now

what's good posture for drawing digitally?
my arm hurts after like an hour

>>7070657
graphic tablet parallel to your monitor
not rotating the canvas at all
no zooming in / zooming out for brush strokes
thats what works for me

How do you know what to draw?

I did another exercise from keys to drawing after 1-2 months break (of "just draw"). I'm not enjoying building up values with a pencil and I might even be doing it wrong because it doesn't look appealing.

Also, I'm not sure how I got some really weird smudges on my paper. The sphere (orange) I mostly did with HB pencil only and it looks better than the other two shapes I did with 2B, as that makes the slight texture of the paper too visible.

I think I pretty much nailed the proportions though. Maybe next time I will do it with black paint or ink instead with a brush (after sketching in the shapes).

>>7070670
for me what works if i don't know what to draw at the moment is to look back on what i used to want to draw ages ago and do that. even if its outdated in terms of my interests it's nice to finally get to it years later. but i also have a larger project that i can work on cgs for if i don't have any other ideas. which is what i'm doing right now. i still have an awful time with coming up with things to draw it's hard to come up with a solution for it that works for more than one person

>>7070670
I default to old famous niggas

How the fuck do I do this. I thought hands were the hardest to draw how is someone who can barely draw supposed to do it.

>>7070690
you don't draw a hand, you just draw what's in front of you

Been practicing figure drawing for about a month and a half with Brent Eviston, this time i'm practicing on how to connect the legs to the torso, these drawings are my recent ones.
I plan on drawing more complex and dynamic poses in the future.

I think i've gone too long without any criticism, so any bit of it would be helpful, thanks in advance.

>>7070670
How do you know what to love? It's all up to you my autistic friend.

Do you guys ever get hard while you're drawing something?

>>7070731
No. But that’s because I’m a woman now.

i need to do portrait practice sometime, never looks like him

>>7070731
yeah it's usually when i'm drawing men too which sucks

>>7070333
I love character design, so I would mostly want to do that, which is why I'm learning figure drawing. I would also like to do landscapes. My favorite kind of art is romanticism, my favorite artist being Rembrandt, and others being John William Waterhouse (who I don't believe was romantic) and Caspar David Friedrich. I don't necessarily want my art to look exactly like theirs, though. I want to find my own style and atmosphere, but I'm not that far along yet.

>>7070313
Because he's full of shit.

>>7070670
When i don't know what to draw i doodle flag of my country

>>7070670
What do you want to draw?
And if you don't know - WHY do you want to draw?

What's the easiest way to make money, basically starting from zero and zero followers?

>>7070809
>>7054428

>>7070809

>>7070743
because your proportions are fucked
overlay just your sketch of the head onto the reference and see wat cums about m8

>>7070809
Try getting a job
:)

>>7070696
Yeah but the examples still look like hands, mine doesn't

>>7070846
post your honest best attempt at the exercise so we can tell you where you're messing up

>>7069697
And I tweaked her a tad.

I won't do any further work on her but I feel I at least got a way of drawing more convincing (but still crooked looking) hands now and I got her looking slightly less "symbol".

I'm pretty doomerpilled about AI so I've lost a lot of motivation to draw. But I'm going to dump a lot of my old art out of nostalgia.

>>7070876

>>7070876
>>7070879

>>7070849
This after a couple of tries, ignore the one on the left I just drew that to familiarize myself.

>>7070876

>>7070876
One of my favs.

>>7070876
>>7070879
>>7070881
>>7070888
>>7070890
What are you worried about? No offense but on one's going to scalp your drawings for their ai.
And save the whining for your pastor, no one's going to give you pity praise because you're crying.

>>7070887
You're drawing what you think you know about hands and not what you're looking at. Slow down and take your time. First off the exercise is to hold your hand up with the fingers pointing directly at you so it's completely unusual and you can't fail back on your assumptions about hands. Take your time and draw slowly spending 90% of the time looking at your hand and not your drawing. Stop and think about what you're drawing. Did you just draw that angle right? Is the index finger the correct size compared to the thumb? Are you really seeing that much of the fingernail?

>>7068606
Animes

>>7070876
Lol I love front facing cartoon characters.

Also homie unless you want to make a living out of art you shouldn't worry about ai. Hopefully you didn't put all your eggs in the art basket (like me I want to fucking kill myself).
Get a normal job draw on your free time. Art is fun and one of the greatest things humans can do. Just enjoy your journey keep at it have fun and let it rip. Don't rob yourself of one of life's greatest pleasure just because some sillicon valley fags and indians are trying everything in their power to strip us of our humanity. Will things get worse now that Ai is getting bigger and bigger? Who knows? But no machine will take your ability to draw.

Having a real howie moment trying to draw in perspective.

Any advice on how to successfully draw environments in 2-pt perspective (including bedrooms/rooms/etc.)? Or recommendations for exercises to better improve my ability to draw 2-pt environments?

Picrel is my attempt (very off).

>>7070910
is it the problem that you don't understand the rules or that you can't freehand the lines?

>>7070917
I understand how to draw boxes/box-like shapes on a grid (or at least I think I do. I use a ruler + trad to do 2-pt perspective drills), but once I try to apply it to an actual sketch/environment my drawing starts to look messed up.

IDK why there's such a disconnect but maybe the answer is just failing more to build up to actually doing it right.

>>7069483
Hello again
I wasn't today in mood to draw heads but i did some doodle of my fav character from webcomic i like. I like trad more but digital is fine ig.

>>7070062
It's just where the highlight is. I like how it looks drawing them idk

Thank you for the feedback, it is appreciated. I will work on making stuff not look like holes in future work

>>7070876
>>7070879
You're not a professional artist why do you care about ai?

>>7068606
so I am trying to design some characters, waht do you anons think? I am aware their hands and legs can use some work, what else do you think I should work on?

study based on an anon's advice to memory draw. left half are from reference right are from memory.

having real problems drawing smooth straight lines in digital. it just doesnt seem like there's any 'friction' to help guide the stylus

>>7070910
You're not actually applying 2 point in your drawing. All green lines and red lines should be converging to their respective point. Instead of trying to draw that sun shade cover as is, turn it into a large box first. THEN put the complicated shape inside of said box so the perspective is right. No shame in using the line tool to map it out first then freehanding over the whole thing, try it.

starting to incorporate 2-3 minute gesture drawings into my daily drills, anyone see anything off about my approach here?

>>7070969
>it just doesnt seem like there's any 'friction' to help guide the stylus
>not having a piece of paper taped over your tablet
you really had to actively avoid this lifehack right?

Spent a good 4 hours on this one. The more you look at a body the more you notice little details and bumps and shadows. I probably could have worked on this for twice as long and still found little things that I hadn't noticed but suddenly seem essential once you know they're there. Pretty happy with how it turned out.

>>7070987
Damn phoneposting

>>7070899
Well I tried what you said. I'm seeing no improvement.
Seriously isn't there any other /beg/ book to work with

>>7070932
Aight done

>>7070045
As I said, you do not understand perspective well enough to do this.

Go back to basics, draw a grid and draw simple objects in the perspective you're trying. Simply put, what you drew is a mess.

I don't mean to be nasty. You're just rushing ahead without a foundation to build from.

>>7071004
bless you homosucker

Why do i think about drawing daily but almost never do it.
Do i actually care for it or is it just some weird frustration or what?

>>7071007
Only you know the answer. Pull the blinds, sit on your bed, close your eyes and think for an hour. You'll find it

>>7071008
I'm scared of what i might uncover.
What if i don't actually care for it at all. What if there isn't a creative bone in my body and i was built to be a worker drone who just assembles tin cans at the tin can factory and pays taxes and then retires and dies.
What if i do have a creative bone but will never utilize it well because i'm simply too lazy.

bait, oh well

>>7071013
Sorry you're right. that's offtopic i'll stop now.
Back to actual drawing talk.

>>7070973
Okay, yeah I see what you mean.
I think I messed up the initial sketch overlaying the first grid and then that ended up affecting the rest from that point.

I'll keep grinding those scenes!!!
Thanks for the help, anon!!!

>>7071001
If it's not clicking just move on to the next exercise. If you've done all the exercises and none of them clicked start over again. If you don't wanna do that then just start copying literally anything. Anything in real life, any photo, picture, any drawing you like. Focus, measure, try to get it right to the best of your abilities. Spend as much or as little time on a piece as you want, just try to catch mistakes as you make them and correct them.
If you're dissatisfied with a drawing and you can't fix it or can't see where the issue lies, just abandon it and start something else. Or post it here if you want advice. Eventually you'll pick up on the fundies naturally, you just have to actually put in the effort each time and not draw brainlessly.

With respect to digital art, to rotate and zoom, or not to rotate and zoom, that is the question.

>>7070969
Have you tried just adjusting the stabilisation settings, most artists I see doing art streams or online classes have them fairly high.

>>7070978
i didn't know whether you were kidding -- so i went ahead and tried this. it felt like fingernails on chalk haha. i see some screen protectors that emulate paper feeling so i'll look more into that.
>>7071043
ah mine is at 24, will give 90-100 a try

>>7071048
i wasn't kidding. i always have a piece of paper on my wacom. there's smooth copy paper out there that doesn't have that "chalky scratch" to it as you say. it basically feels like drawing on paper with a pencil and gives you just the right friction and controll. plus it protects the surface.
the trick is to tape it tightly onto the tablet and leaving no gap. i'm only changing the paper once in a while. works like a charm.

>>7071048
I can't have stabilization on 1 because it throws me off, 24 seems like a complete nightmare to draw with

>>7070064
I didn't know how to draw the select and start button 3D from life

>>7071004
Before i go i want to ask if it's wrong that i worry if my piece is interesting or has soul as a beg? I don't mind that i put my effort and drew this, but i think something is missing and feels more bland. Maybe i expect too much out of every piece

Sup beg, yesterday i failed to draw. It is over

>>7071043
art
>>7071041
zoom makes you draw details nobody will ever see. kinda whatever. rotation will save your wrist from exploding when you are hatching
>>7071007
lack of work habits. blame your parents or school system, then realize you are too old at age of 30 to shift blame and then just do it
>>7071004
that cape needs diff color than skirt + more drapery folds
>>7070989
the legs are too cylinder and probably too long
>>7070975
gesture is not outline
>>7070966
when head is in 3/4 view, the eye further away needs to have smaller + different shape due to foreshortening
>>7070910
archive.org/details/PerspectiveMadeEasy/page/n115
>>7070881
i kneel lmao
>>7070671
invest into your hobby and buy white chalk and black charcoal for like 2$. it will BOOST your ability to render like crazy. with that you will draw shades like a pro
>>7070657
i rest my elbow on table, screenless tablet is flat on the table
>>7070558
nice creamcat
>>7070510
pro
>>7070488
basic anime, but coomable
>>7070306
Hikaru Hayashi How To Draw Manga
>>7069964
why are all the colors so desaturated? is it just the photo?
>>7069931
mogs all my loomis heads combined, damn
>>7069593
sharpen your pencil when doing final outline, consider using erased as "white pencil" for highlights

>>7071069
>lack of work habits. blame your parents or school system, then realize you are too old at age of 30 to shift blame and then just do it
That's over a decade from now, i don't want to wait that long.

>>7071001
there are plenty

>sit down to draw
>complete and utter failure
AAAAAAAAAAAAAA

another day of not drawing. God please let me do it tomorrow aaaa

>>7068666 you have a really cute style and you're pretty good at form , though i noticed some small mistakes . i hope you don't mind the critique, overall it's still a lovely drawing

Tried to draw from memory
any tips on the foot/leg anatomy in perspective or a reference for this would be much appreciated

>>7070893
>>7070907
>>7070954
I don't want any pity. I know I'm just a hobbyist, and I am fine because I'm working on getting a cushy government job, but I'm still bummed out.

I don't want art to be replaced by a deluge of AI generated slop. And I know a lot of artists are just not going to be able to support themselves and make content under the weight of AI. Even as just a hobbyist with no following I like sharing my art with people. Now AI is going to smother even hobby shit. My stuff isn't good, and my lovely hood isn't threatened, but the whole situation bums me out. Sorry for coming across as a whiny loser though, but I promise I'm not looking for sympathy points.

>>7071096

>>7071026
Okay, I'll try that later on, my brains fried right now and I need a break.
Also here's my second attempt.

looking for critique, redlining appreciated. what can i do to make it more appealing? feel free to be rude lol

>>7071117
You literally drew the same thing. I can tell you're not drawing what you see either: you didn't draw the knuckles because your brain wasn't able to wrap around making up what that looks like. Look at the examples, recreate the pose LIKE YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO, pointing the fingers at you, and draw WHAT YOU SEE DIRECTLY, STOP DRAWING NOODLES FOR FINGERS AND A RECTANGLE FOR THE PALM BECAUSE THAT'S HOW YOU DREW THEM AS A KID.
And don't give up again after one attempt, the book's not to blame for your shortcomings.

I don't understand how you're supposed to make appealing cast shadow shapes for drawabox lesson 2

Starting the head grind, going to start pumping 5min heads, but before that I need better symbols for the features and the hair.

Can anyone recommend artists that draw awesome hair (not photorealistic) Right now I have raffaele, kim jim and glen keane. I would love some kind of 90's anime style.

>>7071118
small fingers, the palm fingers ratio is about 1:1 +-0.2 should fit the face comfortably.

The face is flat, paraphrasing Steve Houston: the middle third of the face is where most of the work should be focused, as it contains the eyes (main focal point), the nose (one of the best 3d descriptors) and the ears (helps defining the head orientation to the viewer),

Nice gloves

>>7071097
Here you go

circles are hard, and way harder when they are not in a flat surface

>>7071171
nice ref she qt

>>7071183
I'm struggling with ellipses too, nice escafandra

>>7071099
It is a sad state of affairs. I do feel where you're coming from. All of this stuff just seems fucking sad.

>>7071227
The entire AI situation is rotten not just the art part of it, it's disheartening no matter how you look at it.
Everyone is still thinking it'll automate shitty jobs or even automate enough jobs to force widespread change in the workforce but all it'll do is replace some comfy jobs so companies can reallocate those people into shittier more soul crushing jobs the AI can't do.

No I'm gonna blame the fucking dumbass who recommended me this shit when I can barely draw a box.
How the fuck am I supposed to draw a hand with knuckles WHEN I CAN FUCKING DO THAT? Or am I supposed to to just stare at my hand like a retard for hours on end until I can

Would really appreciate some pointers
I feel like i need to do hundreds of studies to improve this at all.
pass 1 and redo, equally shit i think.
Supposed to have lower, brighter light, and higher, duller ambient (moon) light.

>>7071171
Thank you reference chad

>>7071140
I can't fucking draw a hand normally how the fuck am I supposed to add knuckles.
AND HOW THE FUCK IS ALL OF THIS SUPPOSED TO HELP ME DRAW A FUCKING BOX THIS IS LITERALLY THE ONLY REASON WHY I'M TORTURING MYSELF WITH THIS

>>7071246
what do yo want to say with this illustration? Also you should study anders ZORN I think you can get some ideas from his value management.

>>7070887
>>7071117
Try breaking the hand down into simple shapes.

>>7071249
nta but I would ditch keys to drawing. most pros I know never even used this book... there are many ways to practice observation. and people forcing keys to drawing or drawing on the right side of the brain as the only ones are dumb. there are many pathways to take in drawing. personally, I would recommend you take Brent Eviston's beginner course and do drawabox lesson 1 with it. that will teach you how to execute marks and both courses do teach you how to observe as a beginner (better than keys to drawing will imo)

>>7071249
>I can't fucking draw a hand normally how the fuck am I supposed to add knuckles.
you don't, its an exercise not a finish piece, first observe your subject think about what should be a line and what not, are there darker lines than others? can I do the same with just straight lines?, etc thats what drawing is basically observing -> thinking -> abstracting -> executing.


>AND HOW THE FUCK IS ALL OF THIS SUPPOSED TO HELP ME DRAW A FUCKING BOX
This won't help you to draw a box you draw boxes to get better at drawing boxes, but this will make you more sensible for example think of the fingernails as a single box face.

>>7071257
and this is not the purpose of the exercise, but nice fingernails.

>>7071171
tough pose

>>7071263
>This won't help you to draw a box
So why did an anon recommend me this when they saw my shit ass boxes? They said "Oh this will help with lines and perspective" but all it's doing is pissing me off.

>>7070690
>>7071263
Oh my bad, I didn't see the original exercises, but still breaking things down into shape and thinking of it as 3d can help you draw anything.

>>7070690
gave it a try

>>7071275
why would I know? don't like it? grow up and move on.
keys and right are generalist books that try to teach the basic lingo and thought processes so you can understand better more specialized books.

If you want to draw boxes learn about the basic 1, 2 and 3 vp perspective and then draw boxes all the edges like a wireframe multiple time from multiple views.

>>7071281
not saying is not useful it is, but the exercise is blind drawing (I think) so is not feasible for him at the moment.

>>7071275
The point was to put you in good starting point for drawing in general. There are many ways to do that, ktd is just one of them that was recommended. But if you're being heavy filtered by boxes and the first lesson I don't what to tell you.

>>7071275
I think you should just copy anime or something you like until you get a little more confidence. You're just frustrating yourself right now.

>>7071246
I think you're suffering from wanting to keep all the detail in that you drew, when the lighting you're trying to do would eliminate almost all of it. I'd suggest changing the idea.

>>7071287
I honestly could give less of a shit about the boxes.The only reason why I want to draw boxes is to learn perspective, you know something simple. But no apparently I gotta learn a hundred other things before that.
>>7071296
I'm getting filtered because it's expecting something advance from.a fucking beginner. Seriously how is this a good starting point? I thought starter stuff was supposed to be boxes and stuff, not fucking hands and copying expert artists.

alright anons I need your advice I recently bought keys to drawing by bert Dodson and how to draw by Scott.

I'm currently in drawabox lesson 3 and started drawing consistently like 1 week ago and I've noticed I've been improving despite my drawings coming out bad sometimes.

should I complete lesson 3 and then quit drawabox and copy what those books tell me what to do (not actually copying rather studying)

or should I keep going?

I feel more comfortable with completing lesson 3 first than quitting all of a sudden but I'm not really good when it comes to decisions. What do you guys think?

>>7071324
>I honestly could give less of a shit about the boxes.
x/y problem, grow up and figure out whats your real goal then learn how to ask questions/ seek help.

>>7071324
I've seen all your attempts today and with the boxes the other day.
I'm gonna be the one to break this to you anon, but you're ngmi. Drawing isn't for you. Find another hobby that clicks, because this is not the one.

>>7071069
can you not draw aesthetically ? it's like your make your drawings always so ugly and lumpy on purpose. even in your previous post the feet you drew were the ugliest I've ever seen. and I don't mean technically I've seen way worse skill wise i mean aesthetically. you really are gross.

>>7070510
Glaring issues have now been fixed-ish

Only subtle issues that allude me remain

First one

>>7071459
bump limit reached

Would anyone be interested if I translate this book?
https://e-hentai.org/g/1480605/f4dd496eaa/

>>7071464
I'd give it a download. Have you checked the artbook thread to see if anyone's already done it?

>>7071395
Th head is massive compared to the body
and she's missing her abdomen (should be more space between the chest and pelvis)
and I think you should show less of face on her left side to indicate better perspective

>>7071498
One anon on /artbook/ said nobody learnt to draw from reading a book. I'm starting to think that general is just infested with data hoarders who don't actually read or draw at all.

>>7070888
>MS comic sans signature
Ah, a true professional.

So I drew these today, and for some reason my hand felt a bit unsteady compared to before, I am not sure why my lines/curves still look a bit neater but I struggled to feel comfortable while drawing today.

Do I just need to rest my hand? Also do my cubes look overly wonky? I feel they look nicer than ones I could draw a few months back but I dunno, I can't always tell.

>>7068606
I want to join some online workshops but I'm reading that picrel (not my work) should take 1-2 minutes each and it takes me ages to do anything. how the fuck do I become quicker at drawing? do I need certain prerequisites to start learning anatomy? I'm doing figure drawing courses and they're saying learning anatomy helps speed things up, but then I'm too slow for the anatomy stuff?

How can I stop doodling and start doing my studies again? I think I'm addict.

>>7073654
What even is that?

following proko's 3D heads with perspective.
how's it coming out fellas? i messed up the perspective a bit but that should get better the more I practice