/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>7061152

done. I'm not in the stage of my study where color, light, and shadow are regular things I attempt, but it was fun to do. learned quite a bit about layer settings.

>>7061288
i drew cor

>>7061343
lovely

I won’t be drawing in this thread, either.

Is B the best allrounder pencil grade if I could only carry one around with me all the time?

>>7061364
it's my favorite as well, either b or 2B

>>7061364
2B i feel is best unless you are one of those people who presses really hard, then B ye, would be better
make it a 2mm lead holder for extra versitility

I made a fakemon for /vp/.

Where should I go for figure drawing references of people who wear underwear? I am kind of sick of seeing penis.

is "talent" just not being a silly goose and continually drawing?

>>7061387
that's a coon alright

>>7061400
That's just my namefag signature. The mon's name is either Shamgecko or Gexorcist. Or whatever

Tricky madness combat
Not really super proud of this one but i will post still in hopes i can see how exactly to avoid the problems with this one, mainly anatomy

>>7061407
Shit i didn't attach

>>7061408
Did you use bucket to fill in the base color? I can see colored pixels bleeding into the lines

>>7061017
R-red blob senpai? That you?

>>7061412
Yes. My dumbass just used bucket to fill in and this piece was one i went back and fourth trying to make colours pop because i thought it was boring. Idk if i did work

What should i draw to get back into the habit after a long while?
I can't do humans well so its gotta be an object or a non-complex animal of sorts.

>>7061424
anime

>>7061424
insects
they are pretty cool and more challenging than rocks or trees

>>7061427
Freud was onto something.
>>7061428
Good idea. Honestly i'd prolly have more trouble with rocks and trees desu.
Will check in shortly with an ant or somesuch.

What is the deal with red pencil for sketches?
It looks cool when /int/s, advanced and pro artists use it, but is there a specific reason to pick it?

>>7061431
back in the good ol' days, those kinds of pencils were used, red and blue, because they did not appear in the scanned versions, only the black inks

other than that, its just a different color that will not shock and cause confusion when drawing over it with a harsher and darker color
easier to draw over a light red or blue than black on grey

in painting it adds cool subtle undertones

anon commission from /v/idya drawthread

>>7061377
>>7061379
Thanks friends

>>7061432
Is it just me that feels more confident with red pencil than black one?

>>7061435
put some shading, highlights and clean the lineart, dont do dirty on your bros

>>7061443
maybe psychological effect where in your mind non-black drawing == sketch, so the pressure is off and you can just draw without stressing

>>7061435
You gave her two left hands. Her right hand (on our right) was drawn as a left hand and thus has the thumb on the wrong side of the palm. An easy mistake because of the angle and shot from behind, but you should fix it. Regardless, good job. The hands actually look decent otherwise.

>Sticky has dead link
Figure this would be the best place to pose the question:
Getting a birthday present for a girl that likes painting, though she mostly uses other medias. She's fond of impressionist work, so I figured I'll make her a glass palette and buy an oil paint set. I don't know a thing about painting. Any recommendations for brands or sets?

another /v/idya request.

>>7061464

I get where you're coming from, but nah. I'm working on my basic workflow right now. if I can churn these out sub 30 minutes I'll move onto that.

>>7061473

funny thing is I even thought about it. Posed my arms as such and I still missed it. ah well. thanks for the feedback.

>>7061443
red pencil has a lower contrast than regular graphite so it is easier to be more subtle, sketchy.

>>7061499
reminds me of Mr. Doodle, noice

>>7061364
Am I at 1st or 2nd level? Sometimes I feel like I'm still at stage 0. People keep telling me I'm improving and I can tell that I'm improving but I'm agonizing over certain things. The head mostly, but pretty much everything needs improving.

drawabox is appealing as someone who is completely starting from zero. anyone know if this is a good course for the fundamentals?

>>7061523
I'd say you are between Level 1 and Level 2

>>7061530
It absolutely is if you're starting from 0, ignore the shitposters. At the very least lesson 1 will teach you how to start thinking in 3D and importantly how to actually use your body to draw. However, I wouldn't recommend just drawabox though. I would do another course along with it that you can use pencil

>>7061530

drawabox will teach you line control, perspective basics, and forms. I encourage you to try it out. the exercises are always good warm-ups. don't get wrapped up in the homework too much, and don't get stuck on drawabox. I was done with it after lesson 2 personally.

>>7061523
after trying to draw over it for a couple minutes i wouldn't say this is bad
the problem is the unpolished lines and lack of indication of volumes. Try to make more things overlap like i did here, and use different line variations, also faces faces faces, the face is the most important part

>>7061540
>The face is the most important part
I KNOW
I have been ANGUISHING over the head and face the last few days, it's been an extremely roadblock for me.

>>7061538
Nice expressions!
Where is this from?

>>7061537
I agree, it's completely lacking in other really fundamental areas like accuracy/observational drawing, gesture, etc

>>7061540
copy faces, pinpoint errors, repeat repeat

>>7061559
meant 4 >>7061543

>>7061552

a webcomic called "Morgana & Oz" by Miyuli

a cute story about warring witches and vampires. there two main characters have an 'enemies to lovers' thing going on. as you can imagine, one is a witch and the other is a vampire.

I got tired of this guy but it was good practice, on to next.

Hello beg, figures are mad hard.

>>7061578
very cool
>>7061530
it is great way how to make yourself hate drawing and abandon it completely
>>7061499
looks like ancient Aztec murals. good job
>>7061490
instead of buying her a drawing tool which will for 99.9% not suitable for her, give her something more universal like Encyclopedia of Mythology, which might be of use for her when she will seek inspiration
>>7061431
normal lead pencil produces ugly gray/black lines which are shiny. colored pencils are very often oil based and their value range produces rather broad nice range of values with slightly shifting hue. and they are matte. i first noticed this when i was doing evistons book. to put it simply they offer better output than cheap pencils
>>7061408
bad value range
>>7061060
>what the fuck are you doing now?
trying to breach into /INT: learning how to draw human figure from memory/imagination. yes it is going poorly, but i was expecting nothing less from the hardest subject ever to depict

last work for today I think. damn, I've been drawing since 6am.

Swear to God I'm losing my mind trying to do this

Tried to break down a horse. Terrible!

short time lurker, first time poster
working my way through proko starting from pretty much zero, this is my second day trying 5-10 min gesture sketches
generally still dogshit but it's nice to occasionally see a small bit of something that I don't totally hate

>>7061696
axes converge towards the same vanishing point, in 1pp only the depth (z) axis converges while x and y remain parallel, in 2pp both z and y converge but separately to their own vanishing points and x always remains parallel, in 3pp all 3 axes converge towards their own separate vanishing points

bros how come you didn't tell me that faber castell makes kneadable erasers in other colours besides grey

if you want to draw anime or video game stuff where do you get references?
is official art tag on boorus a good way

>>7061540
You actually made the face worse, the original was way more appealingly stylized and expressive.

today's practice

My valentines day drawings from the past 4 years

>>7061914
>just draw

>>7061920
He's improved pretty significantly from 2021 to 2024, not sure what you're roping for.

How do I draw things with a lot of detail? When I try to draw things from reference that have a lot of detail like a person I just don't know where to start. Any tips?

>>7061924
hmmm, maybe im just too /beg/, but the only thing i see that quite has changed is the lineart being darker everything else looks the same, 22 clothing and 24 are pretty much the same, hands problems are still the same in every year,same problems in anatomy and composition. body is floating in 2024, knees are just bulges, legs too close each other, 22 looks the best out of the bunch imo.

>>7061931
2022 is traced t. op

>>7061931
How about this one i also drew recently

>>7061940

Hello! Any critical mistakes before I proceed with lines, colors, everything else?

I have some dobuts about the hands personally I'll probably look at them more carefully tomorrow

>>7061945
it looks referenced, the painting it's pretty sloppy, specially in the torso the shading and lighting are in the worng place in some areas, this looks more like a sketch than a polished/finished piece.

>>7061956
What are you tracing over, show ref.

>>7061967
Hmmm that's a hard question because it was just a lot of trial and error while looking at references that I was finding through boorus

Nothing was traced though, but the thing I copied the most closely to the source reference was this panel from Futanari no Elf. In fact it's the same torso and nightgown.

>>7061971
Come on man, you are tracing, I can tell, especially the face. It is okay, tracing is a tool.

>>7061972
Bruh I literally told you the answer. In fact the face is what I referenced the least. And its the thing that went through the most iterations. You flip, cut with lasso, flip again, redo, move the pieces, etc. Over and over. Until it ends up looking beautiful.

>>7061930
>How do I draw (blank)?
>When I do it I just kinda sit there and not actually do anything
>Any tips?
This is why just draw exists

>>7061619
>learning how to draw human figure from memory/imagination
Don't. You don't have required visual library yet. As I said, draw simpler figures from references and then study anatomy in depth to burn human figure into your memory. You are wasting time, trying to guess anatomy you don't know and fuck up every single time. You are drawing sausages instead of people again. You don't know even the most basic piece of anatomy - placement of the ribcage and pelvis. They are like 1 meter apart in your pictures. If you want to waste time - continue to headbutt the wall, hoping you will conjure up knowledge of figure drawing from thin air. But if you want to get good, spend at least 2 months only drawing gestures and figures from references. There are thousands of references on /ic/ torrent and many books and courses on figure drawing.
You are simply delusional if you think keeping whatever you are doing will make you progress.

>>7061956
needs more coomis

I drew a Chillet for a friend of mine, however, I haven't drawn many animals/animalistic thingies, nor have I drawn snow before, any advice for next time or in general?

bros, which perspective course should I watch if I really don't give a fuck about cars and houses and and all that claptrap. i just want to draw humans all rotated up and shiet. but all these endless line diagrams courses bore the crap out of meee

>>7061901

>>7061619
>trying to breach into /INT
You are at pre/beg/ pal. That's 10 years from now.

>>7062013
this
it's good that you have a general understanding of what muscles go where but you need to understand proportions and basic volumes, simplify more then come back to muscles in a month or so. Use only reference

About to render soon. Any apparent flaws that need to be addressed?

>>7061619
>>7061619
I've been avoiding value but i can't keep ignoring it. Do you or does anyone have video for me to start learning more about values?

i can't fucking draw loomis skulls

Not very happy with this but I needed to get back into the groove, not drawing for a few days feels awful

>>7062046
Main thing seems to be her arm is too long and shoulders are too wide for a woman

boobs hips are also uneven but the arm on the right is the main offender.

>>7062019
Thank you Coomis sama I will finally read your book after this

>>7062021
Search for references and some books on life/animals/plants drawing

>>7061288
bump

>>7061288
Total /beg/ here with a question
So, should I keep grinding whatever book I chose no matter how shit the drawings came out at first? I'm afraid of stagnation

>>7061288
So, should I keep grinding whatever book I chose no matter how shit the drawings come out at first? I'm afraid of stagnation

>>7061288
Total /beg/ here with a question
Total /beg/ here with a question
So, should I keep grinding whatever book I chose no matter how shit the drawings come out at first? I'm worried about stagnating

>>7061288
Total /beg/ here with a question
So, should I keep grinding whatever book I chose no matter how shit the drawings come out at first? I'm worried about stagnating

>>7062303
>>7062307
>>7062311
>>7062312
that depends on what book you're copying from and what mistakes you're making, examples would be nice

>>7062312
You won't know unless you actually start drawing retard.

>>7062046
neeeeeeds more ***tomy

>>7061619
i love pawell but its going to be a decade of suffering before tiny results are had. fuck~!

>>7061565
Ok thanks man!
I'll check it out.

>>7061071
Hey anon, your planes are super cool. I agree the front one looks a bit off, here's two things i noticed that would maybe help (as much as someone who doesn't draw planes can try and chip in). The back plane looks superb though. Keep it up!

finally drew something on pc after being to tired from work to do anything other than trad

>>7062037
cool lines, nice and clean! the waistband of the skirt looks like it's in the wrong perspective, though that could just be the design

>>7061364
imo h/2h is better since you can just use the sharp bit to make clear lines or line it later. if you're only carrying around a single pencil then I can't imagine you're carrying high quality paper around

>>7061435
>>7061491
>>7061636
you gotta work on your faces and arms but otherwise looks pretty good, esp if you're spitting out multiple a day

>>7061523
dw you'll get there anon :) try varying the brush size a bit (eg thicker on the edge/outline of an object) and making longer more confident lines. keep in mind that the face is way more complicated than the rest of the body so don't expect yourself to get it immediately

>>7061913
what are you using for reference?

>>7061914
are you tracing a 3d model?

>>7062100
left looks a bit barrel chested, especially in comparison to the legs. I like the stylisation on the right!

O shit i fucked up really bad everything with this one

AI can make movies and animations now, it's over.

>>7062451
What's over?

>>7062454
it

>>7062451
based, about damn time
oilchads stay winning

>>7062428
I tried again

>>7062455
I hope it's okay

I gave up drawing for Lent.

>>7062457
you need to check proportions more: e.g.: bottom left of the nose is not below the left eye, and the left pupil is not perfectly round, ther latter is a big beg mistake.
Regardless, I would say just fix a little then move on to a bit of shading, put some contrast in that.

>>7061945
I cant give you critique but that is some good shit, I saved it, nice taste anon.

>>7062037
very interesting!

>>7062021
cool shit, be more detailed next time i would advise

>>7061499
interesting i liek

>>7061491
line on chin is too distracting and does not fit...imo.

>>7061343
S0vvvl

>>7062457
i am in a good mood, so here is a guide.

>>7062496
bruh

>>7062496
Alright, i'll try now with guide thanks

>>7062509
go at it bro. if you use your tools well, its only a matter of time to get them down right.

fwap

>>7062530
Hopefully this looks better. May have made nose smaller than eyes because of how much i spent on eyes

trying to copy krekkov but im not sure how i'm supposed to salvage this boring pose without having to redo everything with a reference image. what do i do with the arms?

>>7062530
Hopefully now it looks better

>>7062552
I don't know but thats a small head and thats even with the hair on, meaning its even tinier.

>>7062562
true, the neck looks especially massive compared to the tiny head

Hey I made the OP again lol

>>7062552
there's nothing wrong with starting over
https://youtu.be/nV_qJ-3qNZM?t=3139

>>7062576
damn, guess i'm starting over from scratch

>>7062581
sketch over it, art is an iterative process

>>7061721
Yeah that I know.
The problem is I can't get the lines to match up with the second square

>>7062594
You draw the orthogonal lines first so you can just place a square at any depth and it'll be in perspective with the first. Use a ruler for the orthogonal lines so you know they're right. If your first square is crooked it still works, but your back square needs to be the same kind of crooked square.

drawing on ipad sucks bc my hand makes random marks but its so easy to set up unlike my pc tablet

>>7062609
>my hand makes random marks
bro your glove?

Hey bros, /beg/ here learning shading. Tried hatching and linework with a dip pen over a pencil sketch. Hatching was interesting, but linework with the pen felt very uncomfortable and my lines were shaky, not sticking to the pencil marks. I feel like dip pens only work properly on downward-facing motions so I have to twist my hand into uncomfortable angles a lot for any curve. Also often cant see where it's going because it gets in between my eyes and the pencil lines. As you can see theres plenty of line mistakes. I guess its just not as forgiving of shaky hands as a pencil is. Maybe I should switch to my Wacom and use the stabilizer?

Any advice?

Are there any book/online course that handholds you and treats you like you can't do anything right in life?

Figure Drawing for All it's Worth by Loomis kind of just assumes you'll draw the body right, same with How to Draw Comics the Marvel Way by Stan Lee.

>>7062613
dont got one

>>7062620
Just have fun with a pencil like me, anon. Soon you’ll be drawing like this!

>>7062621
order one (or 10) from aliexpress then they're like a dollar each
or cut up a knitted glove if you don't wanna wait

>>7062609
if yr using procreate you can turn off painting w yr finger in gesture controls

>try to practice painting again
>think that I finally understand how to do it
>use a filter to change the colors a bit just to see what it would look like
>"hey cool"
>change back
>it looks flat as fuck

Every time I pick colors I think to myself 'nah, that's too saturated' or 'that's too different.'

requesting aid with my brontosaurus drawings. i am pretty happy with the male, but the female is completely fucked and im not sure how to approach it differently

>>7062623
>>7062627
thank u <3

>>7062621

Where are those refs from? Thanks!

>>7062621
https://www.posespace.com/

>>7062639
https://www.posespace.com/

Any serious anatomical issues?

First ever attempt at a coloured scene w character

>>7062620
i would really appreciate an answer to this as well pls

>>7062620
>>7062667
Fun with a Pencil, Drawabox, Proko basics course, Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain, Keys to Drawing.

>>7062655

yea..

>>7062655
the right foot is drawn as a left foot
and the left foot is drawn as a right foot

the perspective of that sword makes no sense it looks like it is scrapping on a wall rather than the ground

the left leg is a tad too big for the perspective and the below the knee part is misaligned with the thigh part

if you told me this is AI generated, I'd believe you

>>7062695
>if you told me this is AI generated, I'd believe you
brutal

Man i feel so bad for not having drawn today yet.
I'll do a little something in a bit but i jeed to get my shit together finally

>>7062620
>>7062667

>>7062695
how's it now?

>>7062416
ref is random stuff on pinterest

>>7062663
I like how the light of the fire illuminates the stairs

>>7062721
looks better but still wonky
mostly because of perspective

try finding a ref pic that has that exact perspective you want
then draw over the ref a box, and a basic cube + cylinder manequin over the figure
then overlay that box and manequin on your drawing and see whats going wrong with it

>>7062725
Alright, but I will leave that for tomorrow.
Thanks!

>>7062709
the natural way to draw, is underrated
it may not be good or innovative in technical content
but it really helps you loosen up that perfectionist side of you nad keep the creative fun juices flowing

Just a quick question. Been drawing for soon 4 years. I have improved since i started but still am /beg/. Is that a too much time or is it still good because i am improving and learning things?

Is there a way I can do better figures

>>7062741
There's nothing wrong with that. The only thing that matters is that you're getting better. Things are not really as black and white as /beg/ and not /beg/ and there is no clear graduation. At least calling yourself /beg/ shows humility and that you know you still got a lot to work on.

>>7062752
don't let your style distract you from observing properly
you're missing the tilt of the hips, pull back of the shoulder, and the overlap of the leg of the top figure, and the arm overlap with the head for the bottom one

>>7062764
Good point, thank you

How the fuck do you draw fists.

>>7062603
I think the problem is the lines rather than the boxes. I keep drawing them in a way that makes it so that the only way the back can match up is if the lines don't connect the corners. Which isn't how it's supposed to be. I've bolded some of the lines so you can see it better.

>>7062804
Genuinely what the hell are you doing?

>>7062781
maybe simplify like this?

>>7062046
I had fun doing this

>>7062842
I tried that, i cant get the angle right tho, thanks for the redline ill try it again.

What should I do to improve my construction? At the bottom, there are a couple retries.
It's based on this image.
https://media.gettyimages.com/id/50555794/photo/james-gandolfini.jpg?s=1024x1024&w=gi&k=20&c=0lWD0HoSUpLKKIAEjB5k9BYeHClwgadfWCyUFImE5x8=

>>7062844
so good
are you a real H artist already?

>>7062804
>>7062836
You know there's a thread up right now about whether iq effects one's ability to learn drawing and I replied saying it's entirely irrelevant, but now I'm starting to change my mind. Some of you might genuinely be too retarded to learn how to draw. It's amazing you have enough brain function to even pick up a pencil.

Here watch a video instead since you're apparently incapable of reading:
https://youtu.be/BYlW8XC0MlI?si=-XPzZ7hRO99yuQ9L

>>7062852
thanks, I draw some coom and study hentai artists a lot but I'm still far from being a real one

>>7062752
>>7062775
Not op, but I would push the figures even more. You have good refs, I would start playing with exaggeration.
Here's how I'd do it. Kind of rough but I hope you get the idea. I like your shapes though.

Figure drawing practice. Still need work on nailing the general proportions. Face is way off so I definitely need to have one portrait day a week to start getting those a little better. I actually quite like how the foreshortening and shadows on the right arm look even if it's not exactly accurate to the reference.

>>7062654
anyone have a rip of this?

>>7062888
here you go

>>7062108
>>7062346
>>7062844
Thanks for the advice frens. I should've probably used a more slimmer and tone reference plus I'm still shit. I'll try and apply some fixes.

>>7061364
HB and 2B for me. I use 6B for darkest darks.

Good night beg. I think my newly gained knowledge about body is slowly starting to make some sense, but OH MY GOD it is so challenging to apply it all together.

>>7062888
there are threads like book or video course general where float links to mega with hundreds of GBs full of references, try asking there. Also the books are piratable here
>annas-archive.org/search?q=art+models
>>7062877
good practice
>>7062847
construction is like scaffolding. the end goal is to build a house, not the scaffolding itself. literally try to draw the figure on top of it and THEN ask for feedback if you are unsure
>>7062804
keys to drawing
>>7062741
some anons (or crabs) keep telling me i will be permabeg for the next 10 years, so you are well within my range
>>7062614
when hatching ROUND form it is generally good idea to CURVE the lines to suggest the form. also every single artist ROTATES the canvas during hatching. they do this to save their carpal tunnel from exploding cause hatching is very wrist intensive
>>7062561
next time place your drawing towards the source of light, so your casted shadow is behind you instead in front of you on your canvas
>>7062535
since you are pretty far in the book, i have a question: how do you like/hate the book?
>>7062394
the main reason why it looks off is because the vanishing points are too close to each other. explained in perspective made easy, called WARPED perspective
>>7062312
worry about stagnating AFTER you gain some skill, not before. less thinking, more drawing
>>7061956
BOOBA
>>7061913
cute anime thots
>>7062013
that is literally what i am doing: blues are from ref, greens after from memory then redline or outright redo

art gains so far, I think I should break down more forms more and actually finish drawings instead of applying construction adding details and then calling it a day.

Haven’t drawn in a couple days so it sucks
>>7061017
Red Blob Senpai! I just mentioned you the other day. You were a great contributor and I loved your absolutely SUCCULENT figures. I miss you, fren. I’m not the only one, either. Be nice to Pawell tho, he’s friendly and struggles on even despite all the shit he gets, and encourages anons. If nothing else, he’s a great mascot. Anyway, I hope you’re doing good.

t. Anon who did brown sketches of Bridgman and goats and stuff
>>7062037
This is quite nice to look at. Why did you draw her belt line curving in the direction you did?
>>7061956
That’s a nice face, anon.
>>7061913
Very expressive, lots of attitude/mood coming through. Lines could be cleaner/more confident, but they work, so whatever.
>>7061772
they do?
>>7061295
Based, good work
>>7062655
Can’t believe nobody mentioned the head is shaped like a fucking pyramid. Oh, how /ic/ has fallen
>>7062663
Looks comfy, but the perspective and the scale of everything makes it kinda wonky. Charming, though.
>>7062877
>three crayons
Based
>>7062844
You’re breddy gud, anon
>>7062781
From (drawn) reference
>>7062312
It depends. Can’t really advise you without seeing your work and knowing what book you’re working through.
>>7062416
Looks great, dude
>>7062620
>>7062667
Drawing on the right side of the Brain. Do that first. Then do DrawABox until lesson 3 or 4. Those two treat you like a retarded baby and will handhold you from absolutely zero ability, all the way up to having enough skill that you can go on to learn from other resources. They’ll give you the ability to draw what you actually see and not what you think you see (step zero of drawing) and then teach you the basics of holding and using a pen/pencil, drawing with your whole arm, making marks, and construction/feeling the form. So once you can see, draw what you see, and construct, you can learn anything.
>>7062926
Grind 2-5 min figure quicksketches/gestures. You now need MILEAGE. Not studies.

Everything but the sinkin Kitsch

>>7062910
This looks so stupid. What has humanity come to.

idk wtf im doing. i used to be so talented and ambitious as a kid. now I give up not even 10 minutes into a sketch bc it looks like shit.

>>7062999
ref

complete beginner here, are you supposed to overlay the reference image on the bottom and draw on a new layer? or draw side by side

what are good master works for studying line
doing the proko line master study project

>>7062451
The three-legged horse...

>>7062836
>>7062855
Why the fuck do I even ask you guys for advice if all you do is shit talk me. Maybe if you retards actually helped me I'd improve.

>>7062999
Hey, this looks fine, be nicer to yourself and your work.

I've realized that I'm just never going to be good because I didn't seriously start learning to draw until I was too old and I never spent enough time. I'm 26 now and it's over.

>>7063048
Unironically just draw, and draw for fun. If you have even an iota of artistic mettle you'll improve to the point of competence. But if nothing clicks naturally it's best to not fry the rest of your (and our) brain cells trying to help you learn.

>>7063057
>>7062999
Man shut the fuck up and draw sad bitch, crying for pity isn't going to make you any better

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mx-AfJLI4c8

Required viewing for all dramabegs

Tried < 1min

>>7062999
>>7063002

The problem here is you're doing a Loomis head but you don't understand why you're doing a Loomis head. You're just making lines. Why go through the trouble of measuring something and then just freehanding it anyways? They call them "guidelines" for a reason.

About how long should I be spending on a sketch? I feel like I spend too much time on them, sometimes to the point of never finishing them due to running out of energy

How can I improve? I feel my style isn't that charming.

>>7063078
How long are you spending on each? Post an example.
It doesn't really matter how long it takes as long as you accomplish your vision. You'll get better/faster sketches with time and experience. Just don't spend two hours redrawing the same line.

>>7063088
alter sis...

>>7063057
Or you look at what you've made, figure out what you don't like, look up how to fix those, practice them, and then you do that until you're good. No you're not going to work at Disney, you don't want to work at Disney.

No one is going to show you sympathy, no one is going to give you the perfect roadmap, you draw what you like and you improve it, you study it, you keep drawing it, as much as it hurts, and you don't stop.

We all suck for a long time, I suck, you suck, sucky suckky fuck suck, keep drawing, keep thinking about drawing, read books about drawing. Read the sticky. Don't mope, ask questions, keep drawing. Keep working at it. Keep drawing. Get depressed, get it out of you. Keep drawing.

>>7063048
How about instead of getting assblasted you tell me what you were trying to do and watch the fucking video I linked. Or did you think I was being rhetorical?

>>7063092
Don't judge me!

>>7062961
Some really dynamic stuff there.

>Very expressive, lots of attitude/mood coming through. Lines could be cleaner/more confident, but they work, so whatever.

Glad to hear something is coming through. I've been far too limited in what I draw that I'm just going through a lot of refs to expand my visual library. But yeah for sure my lines are pretty scratchy

>>7063088
you need to branch out your expressions and gesture for more dynamic poses but mainly your expressions

>>7062108
>>7062346
>>7062844
Final lineart.. Well. maybe I culd change expressions but idk.

Started morning with proko course
I tried pear practice. Right my attempt and left with following proko along

>>7063299
Next i'll do some eyes and feet later on
Idk how much is too much topics for a day to study
I have no problem myself as long as i enjoy

>>7062633
The woman's chin is too low. Check the ref, it's not that far away from her mouth

Why there are two threads on the catalog?
Anyway, guys what's the fastest way to get some money by drawing? I mean I know it's coom, but where should I post them?

practicing observation today

>>7061288

>>7063376
Longer

I'm furious that Archie and Sabrina have no good games.

The Archie House of Mystery series is really solid but tracking it down on eBay would be such a pain. I can't wait till the flea markets start back up again.

>>7063392
I'm top of the bellcurve baby!
Pewdiepie's work ethic is inspiring.

>>7063395
Thank you anon, what an amazing specimen

>>7063108
I already fucking told you I can't connect the bottom lines to corners of the back box. Now instead of treating me like a retarded baby tell me how to improve that.

>>7063439
He nose the truth

>>7063453
anon if this is your first time doing this type of exercise try using a ruler, freehanding straight lines takes time to learn

>>7063453
You stop crying on the internet and go draw until your motor skills don't suck so much.

Little kids can't crack eggs without breaking them, or can't write well, because their motor skills are too undeveloped and lack the required finesse. This is the same. Go draw. It will suck ass. But you will grow. No magical advice. Just practice.

>>7061958
>>it looks referenced
not that anon, but cold you elaborate on that? like how do i avoid that because I use refs all the time

>>7063413
I wanna roll away like a Rollerblade
Till my eyes roll back
In my skull for days

>>7061390
So how was your Valentines

>>7061431
Red ochre was used for landscapes...

I'm checking hampton as some anon recommended a thread ago, and holy shit I find it so much easier to 'get' that bridgman.

Does anyone know of any resources to learn how to draw backgrounds? Everytime I need to draw one i consider fucking offing myself

>>7062961
>Can’t believe nobody mentioned the head is shaped like a fucking pyramid. Oh, how /ic/ has fallen
I think it's supposed to be a gender swapped pyramid head from Silent Hill.

>>7063465
>It looks referenced
That's the dumbest nonanswer criticism I've ever heard
>Hmm this looks like you drew something like what it's supposed to look like
Wtf is that supposed to mean

My criticism is too many scritchy scratchy lines especially in the hair. It's supposed to be volumous, you're making it look like tangled hay. Think of hair as locks rather than strands. You don't have to show every thread in the clothes either especially if it's not zoomed in to show that detail.

>>7063589
I forgot to link to the original post
>>7061945

>>7063076
ty, this helps.

I give up on this shit, that fucking video is barely helping. Guess I'm too fucking retarded to draw.

If we draw, we draw.

I want to draw Hector Heathcote.

few "from imagination" scribbles. i've gotten into the bad habit (?) of drawing on one layer...i also really need to study anatomy so i can understand what i'm looking at, i'll do that today since i'm off. in that vein i'm once again asking for a GOOD anatomical figure i can pose with all the muscles and bones labeled...

i feel my dream of drawing cute traps is in sight though (but i need to learn how to draw regular guys too...)

>>7062804
I know I shouldn't make fun, but goddamn this pic makes me howl with laughter.

few "from imagination" scribbles. i've gotten into the bad habit (?) of drawing on one layer...i also really need to study anatomy so i can understand what i'm looking at, i'll do that today since i'm off. in that vein i'm once again asking for a GOOD anatomical figure i can pose with all the muscles and bones labeled...

i feel my dream of drawing cute traps is in sight though (but i need to learn how to draw regular guys too...)

>>7063756
Draw two Powerpuff girls and call us in the morning.

>>7063763
what

>>7063751
Enjoy it, I'm fucking done with this

finished the provided proko figure rhythm sketches, experimenting with different degrees of pushing flow and trying to find middle ground.
gotta find another 76 pose photos so I can do 100, budgeting about an hour a day for these

>>7063775
Then why do you keep coming back?

>>7063453
First of all watch the video I linked. Second of all can you really not draw a line connecting two points? I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt that you're just stupid and don't understand what you're supposed to be doing, but if you really can't draw a line connecting two points then practice doing that or use a ruler.

First few lessons of Drawabox are purely line exercises. Make sure to follow the directions exactly, use your whole arm remember to ghost the lines.

I want you to know I genuinely do not comprehend what your issue is. You draw a square then connect the corners to the vanishing point, how hard is that? I have to assume you're just doing it wrong.

>>7063088
I think your style is very charming, bro. but basically what >>7063160 said

I forgot how to shade skin

>>7062926
>construction is like scaffolding. the end goal is to build a house, not the scaffolding itself. literally try to draw the figure on top of it and THEN ask for feedback if you are unsure
Well, here my attempt. I had a hard time thinking of the angles of the muzzle and the nose.
https://files.catbox.moe/89vl0c.png
https://files.catbox.moe/pdh0gz.png

>>7063766
you heard him
get to it

>>7063845
I can't connect the two damn squares with the lines. The lines and the corners are supposed to connect, but they aren't doing that with the bottom part. I fucking traced the example I posted earlier and they still aren't connecting.
I'm giving up, and so should you.

Drawn mostly from imagination.

>>7063866
why are his balls so saggy

>>7063785
Your drawings have good lines but always remember the major 3 masses of the head, rib cage, and pelvis and their relationship. Looks more like you’re drawing contours Study the skeleton and how the parts move in relativity to one another

>>7062722

>>7063874
You do know you're supposed the corner lines first then the second inner square within those lines right?

>>7063885
I think you're absolutely right because I haven't really gotten to anatomy/form at all yet. This exercise is supposed to be all about finding rhythms to push, but I know that the underlying structure is suffering because of me looking for those rhythms in the contours themselves; even if I'm correctly finding one, it's ultimately a contour-based rhythm and I think that's visible.
thanks for the feedback, lots to learn

0p - the x and y axis are traced to paper, this is a 1:1 reflection of reality, there's no z axis because the 2d plane has only 2 axes
1p - the z axis is added, it's lines converge to a single point
2p - another converging point is added on the x axis, this causes the y axis to be distorted linearly based on it's proximity to the vanishing point. This setup can be rotated, the vanishing point can be placed on the y axis causing the x axis to be distorted
3p - another vanishing point is added causing the other axis to distort
4p - a second vanishing point is added, it's not possible for both the x and y axis converge to 4 vanishing points without one of them distorting spherically (there's one more vanishing point than there are dimensions). This setup can be rotated too
5p - as I understand it the fifth vanishing point is behind the viewer, this causes both the x and y axis to distort spherically
6p - both the 5p and 6p actually have 6 vanishing points, the difference is that the vanishing points placed on the z axis are now displaced (they're not directly in front and behind the viewer) this causes all the planes to distort spherically even the z axis. To put it simply, all 6 cardinal directions have their own vanishing point now (north, south, east, west, up and down)

Note: The lenght of the z dimension actually has nothing to do with the number of vanishing points, it's only correlated to how far apart the vanishing points are placed

>>7063906
i fucked up the 6p, it should be more like this, though this could still be wrong
It's kinda difficult to freehand it bust setting up a graph is even harder

>>7063874
Here's a step by step guide, there's nothing I hate more than "I can't draw". Everyone can draw, it came free with being human. Don't let a little hurdle discourage you from drawing. Genuinely stop being a self defeating fag and actually use the resources I'm providing you with. If your problem is connecting lines do the DAB exercises, if your problem is doing the steps in the wrong order watch the video I linked. Here, this is my last attempt to save you:

Just practiced basic stuff today
Maybe some hand practice later tonight

>>7062926
I like fwap well enough, mainly using it as warmup/experience before i can move onto loomis' actual artbooks.
Don't think i've learned much from it but that's on me for neglecting memory/imagination drawing and i wouldn't say i've come across any "bad" artbooks i hate other than the obviously western "How to draw anime" ones.

>>7063906
reverse perspective can be achieved by simply tracing out the "back wall" of a regular figure. though the effect is likely not desired, counterintuitively, limiting focal points and limiting the level of distortion will actually make reverse perspective look more natural (as natural as it can even look)

>>7063160
>>7063851
It's a nice surprise to see you guys here, and I get what you mean, most of the time I play safe with the poses and expressions, but right now I'm more worried about the eyes, I always think that I need to make more 'anime looking' eyes to get a higher level of expression in my drawing, but I'm afraid of losing my "uniqueness"

The hands in this took me way too long.

I kept getting the angles wrong and having to redraw the whole finger sometimes just to get it to look right. I gave up on the bottom left hand because it was so tedious to get right.

I wasn't even sure I was learning anything from it.

>>7063954
if it feels hard it means your brain is engaged, which means you're learning
becoming sensitive to angles and proportions is one of the most important skills you can have, so just keep at it

>>7062428

it's better to understand form and perspective a little bit more before going in again. I say practice drawing each feature individually first and understand how to simplify the form first.

This is the best free video on youtube you can learn from. People shit on proko here all the time but the guy is a good portrait artist.

Features : https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtG4P3lq8RHHFhiyjXP4UT-yUo7pC13GQ

Head : https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL39135B8D190B7C97

>>7062725
>>7062728
I didn't do the whole drawing over stuff on the figure, but I got a model on posemy that is in very similar position. Had difficulties faults in perspective besides the goddamn sword.
The more I sit over it the more frustrated I get. I just want to finish linework, color it, post it around and move on.

>>7063266
you have no idea what you're doing with that left arm anatomy, do you
focus on where the pectorialis and deltoids insert into the arm, wrapping around behind it; also figure out what the weird bumps on the arm are: the one closer to her head looks like someone took a bite out of her biceps muscle

don't draw anatomy you don't know without referencing it

>>7063975
>the one closer to her head looks like someone took a bite out of her biceps muscle
I don’t see that.

>>7063942
my attempt at drawing a head in reverse perspective by first drawing a it turned away and then drawing the "other side" on top of it
If i squint hard enough its almost correct

>>7063994
quick redline to show you what i mean

>>7063910
I already told you, I give up. I followed that video and it still looks like shit. I've followed different stuff and it still looks like shit. I'm sure if I did DAB it would still look like shit.
I'm never going to improve.

>>7062844
Used to hate coom, over time i stopped caring but i do respect how many have solid grasp at anatomy and other basics

>>7064008
Whatever see you next week

>>7063975
Yeah this is the first tiem I've drawn the arms up like that. Figured I need to try something new if I'm not showing hands. I'll try to adjust em.

>>7063953
I think you should be more experimental, chibis and more stylized characters like yours, can be great for expressing emotions you usually cant express with more regular characters, so try weird stuff to see what sticks. also, don't be afraid of losing your uniqueness, it will always be there, whenever you want to of back to it, you can, but you can only find new ways to improve by getting out off your comfort zone.
a good way to start is looking at other artists with similar artstyle to yours or artstyles you'd like to emulate, and try to see how do they do it.

>>7063954
I think you are drawing what you think you know about hands, or at least that's what I get from those fingers and wrists. Also it feels that your only tool right now is outlining and this will only give you a hard time, you need to start working in some kind of shading in your toolbox this will make your experience more enjoyable.

for the first part start studying basic proportions of the hand and bones since the hand has a lot of subcutaneous bones. Attached are some notes I made a month ago, but do your own study.

and for the second part, start copying works from other artists you like, watteau did some easy to read hands and are available on common wiki.

Keep going, you are doing great.

>>7063299
Another proko study. I also followed along and i'm quite proud despite flaws. I learned some decent stuff about value and shading alongside breaking figures and stuff down, but i'll try that tomorrow since i got tired.

>>7063880
When drawing the body from imagination it’s good to really get familiar with the skeleton so the muscle connections can look tighter and more emphasized. It’ll make drawing the body from imagination 1000x easier

>>7064066
Scribbling back and forth does not emphasise the muscle but rather makes it look like you have parkinsons. Im guessing you mostly aint rather than work with lines? Maybe work on your line control before getting into redlining.

>>7064042
I'll do exactly that, thanks a lot, aniki.

>>7064134
My line control is fine. Pic rel is a study. I did a lot of this on my finger with an IPad and then transitioned to a stylus so yeah, it does look pretty rough. My goal was to just show the muscle connections via drawing a skeleton first to show how much simpler it is with a better foundation

>>7063881
because its hot in the room

any criticism?

I traced over some models in an attempt to learn how to construct the human form. Is this somewhat correct or am I just scribbling nonsense?

>>7064181
when the poses are foreshortened, you're scribbling nonsense. figure out the perspective of these things first

>>7064176
you're still symbol drawing, but at least it's going somewhere. draw like 500 more

>>7064180
vacuum crotch with disappearing hands, and deformed right foot. use reference for the hands between thights and for the club foot please

>>7064185
The reference I was using for the vacuum crotch had the hands disappearing, that was the effect I wanted from the start, but I'll admit I didn't pull it off as well as the reference. I have no real excuses for the feet besides the fact I didn't want to put enough time into it. Appreciate the criticism though, for real.

>>7064190
>The reference I was using for the vacuum crotch had the hands disappearing
real life reference or animus? post

>>7064192
anime. It was hard to find a good real life reference. I also didn't start using one until I was already somewhat part of the way through, so it doesn't match well, but the one I'm talking about is pic related.

>>7064158
oh that looks much better, you should've done that from the get go. clear and concise.

Hi beg, today i almost died, hence only 4 figures. it is overbeg

>>7064181
instead of tracing go draw these from observation. tracing is waste of time in terms of practice
>>7064176
its beg. in case you arent following any course or book i recommend keys to drawing
>>7063932
>actual artbooks
lmao. i love how you diplomatically called that book as utter trash so bad it is in its own category
>>7063866
>draw a girl with no tits and with a cock
coomers
>>7063734
>>7063413
certified western comic/cartoon for children drawer. loomis would approve
>>7063499
Marcos Mateu-Mestre Framed Perspective volume 1
>>7063451
very cool
>>7063088
easiest advice is to find art you find most charming and then steal i mean study why it is so charming and borrow it on your canvas
>>7063078
as much time as it needs. turbo begs will spend 4 hours polishing turd, pros draw appealing doodle under a minute
>>7063057
>26
>too old
lmao
>>7063040
overlaying the reference is called tracing and you want to avoid this as beg in order to practice/learn. you do side by side
>>7062959
>draws goku on day1
>draws toilet on day7
>art gains
kek. keep drawing
>>7063869
it is very BEG at places, but nothing inherently wrong. keep drawing!
>>7062961
>You now need MILEAGE. Not studies.
You are the first anon ever who doesn't think studies == mileage

>>7064235
hello abanian, nice to run into you

>>7064235
>>7064185
Well I read keys of drawing like 1 year ago, keys of drawings is alright when you try tomake portraits but I am not doing that, I'm making ocs to make comics, and I trying really hard to how to draw noses, mouths, ears and eyes.

I love bees

>>7061364
ive see this image years ago and it still kinda grinds my gears. it realistically only shows 2 so called "masteries", first 2 being isometric projections/flat and other 5 being same skill level but with just verying degree of complexity. really bad refference point for seeing how good one is at constructing the human body

>>7064240
still, use references at least somewhat, and draw more faces, or study facial features directly

>>7064236
>>7064245
fucking retard remove your sage

>>7064242
Not to mention the actual drawings get visibly worse the higher the 'mastery,' because the original artist really has no idea how to draw what he's purporting to be a master of. The perspective on the 5th image is terrible and the details he's choosing to highlight in the final image make her look very unappealingly like a segmented insect.

Should I only stick to one body measurement type for good gains? Sorry for bad sketch lines.

>>7064249
yk what, you're right, i forgot 4chan remembers the option now
>>7064252
learn to measure bodies in general and how to draw them proportionally. vary it up a bit so you don't get stuck knowing how to draw only one bodytype ever

>>7064254
Thanks for the advice. Proportions are tricky but I know it'll get easier.

>>7064251
yeah when they increase the complexety, subsequently they also show more mistakes. realistically they would want to draw same pose at the same angle. though on the 5th one its the forms that are off not the perspective it self.

>>7064235
what are you thinking as you draw, real question

does anyone have ref for a completely bent leg? i can only find it at a 90 degree angle and i'm losing my mind!!

Why would you to the construction on the right when the construction on the left takes less effort and is easier to do + arleady looks more like the finished product

>>7064302
Going from left construction to the top drawing is not easier to do without experience, many newer artists would need to construct the right drawing first in order to visualize how to go from left to top.

>>7064021
Yeah then you guys can mock ms again

>>7064302
Yeah anon I'm sure you can do all three

>>7064305
I literally had to go from left to right to make the stupid skeleton, it's straight up harder than just drawing 5 lines until it looks right
>>7064333
That's literally my drawing anon, reverse image search

>>7063880
>>7064233
Went ahead and gave it another shot. Hope this helps

>>7064302
the left one does not give you definite information on the tilts/angles/orientation of the main masses
it's too vague imo

>>7064342
>That's literally my drawing anon, reverse image search
I don't get your question then. If you can do it without the boxes then do it, no one's forcing you to. There's no one way to do things.

>>7064351
No but why teach people a method that's worse in every single regard?

>>7064355
Again that's just you. You sound like you'd make fun of someone for measuring something with a ruler.
>You can't perfectly visualize 7.34 inches bro lmao

>>7064362
They can't draw BECAUSE they are using a dumb construction method
99% of people that can draw don't use it. It's not that they don't use it because they are good, they are good because they don't use it. They don't do it to save time, if they were putting in their absolute best they still wouldn't use it. Look at mangaka sketches, digital artist timelapses, whatever you want

>>7064004
Well I made some changes about that among others.

>>7064366
You're trolling. Stop putting stupid ideas into begs' heads, they don't know better.

ATTENTION
DO NOT MAKE A NEW THREAD, THERE'S ALREADY ONE THAT WAS MADE AT THE SAME TIME AS THIS ONE THAT HASN'T REACHED BUMP LIMIT
>>7061289
DO NOT MAKE A NEW THREAD, THERE'S ALREADY ONE THAT WAS MADE AT THE SAME TIME AS THIS ONE THAT HASN'T REACHED BUMP LIMIT
>>7061289

>>7064047
Thanks for the study sheet.

You are right I was mainly outlining the hands, though also constructing certain fingers as cylinders hence the contour lines you could sometimes see.

I feel the bottom right and top left were the best hands I was able to draw in terms of accuracy, but they were all awkward as hell to draw and I need more experience with it.

Also I am not focusing on shading much at the moment, focusing on sketching, I am 27 and only started properly drawing back in September after all so I want to focus on being able to actually construct sketch things at the moment.

>>7063160
How do you get such vast variation in your line width? Upper right is a good example of what I mean- I feel like my lines dont vary much despite having pen pressure enabled.

Kinda getting a bit bored of some of the drawing exercises I do.

Anyone got any suggestions for good ones? Preferably ones that'll help with straight line confidence or construction?

>>7064414
>poverty flag
huh

>>7064795
Not op, but having a flat brush helps. Also make use of the stylus tilt feature. I use a mix of both and sometimes have to manually rotate my brush to get the desired lines.

how do I draw backgrounds and interiors from life proportionally accurate? like, I never have enough space on the page, or even sure how much I am supposed to crop from my vision. why is there no resource on this topic?

Started drawing because i wanted to draw fighting. How far away am i from being good at that?