/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

how the fuck can i draw horse/monster girls

Lol, I knew if I posted in the last one I'd catch the end of the thread. No matter. It wasn't a bad good post.

>>7044008
How do I escape compulsively drawing? I've done it since I was a kid and want to move on. I overthink everything yet have no actual ideas of what I want to make, Im just scribbling away my time

What are some good exercises for crosshatching?

>>7044022
l_ _ _ _ s

>>7044027
Alphonso dunn books have a lot of exercise.

>>7044029
Ive done plenty of that. This page is just an example of how mindless I get at drawing. Even figure studies, Ill try to have some thought process behind it and eventually it turns into mindless repetition. Its good to be like that sometimes but I am done with that and need to be more deliberate with what Im doing.

>>7044013
Learn to draw a horse, learn to draw a girl. Now put them together.

>>7044022
I always just add on to my sketches, nothing is ever planned. I drew this dog. Hmm, well dog needs a bed, duh. Oh yeah, and some water and food bowls...and a doggie door, and and owner etc etc.
It helps me fill sketch books

>>7044034
WELL THEN YOU ARE LOST

>>7044027
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8yw1ov3hjI

i demand crit

>>7044036
Do you ever do anything with those though? I can easily fill up a sketchbook. Ill go through and find some "character" and try to redraw them at different angles/emotions just to practice consistency

>>7044037
Honestly I feel lost. Ive always loved drawing and now I want to pursue it as a career and am realizing that I have zero structure

>>7044022
I have the same problem, generally writing my ideas down and then boiling it down to a project where I outline what I want out of it helps.
For example writing about the character and his story, it can be short and simple, no writing skills required, then you actually try to imagine what the world where the character lives in looks like, you're free to do some sketching here with what you already know or assume about characters and objects, when it's clear you don't understand something, you look for various ref while thinking about the scene you want to create, think about it as
>inb4 cooking analogy
a recipe where you're getting your necessary ingredients for cooking it.
Then it's a back and forth between assumptions/memorization, looking at ref again, what you've learned from ref, your style and design, inspo from other artist or what have you.
You don't need to be autistic about every drawing, sometimes just thinking about the subject, imagining it for a bit and then locking it in with some solid ref will be enough to get you started, you're free to expand or dedicate as much investigation, planning or prepping as you feel necessary, if it's something personal, there's no real limit to this, and there's no deadline, just make sure to stick to the project, if it's getting too hard, make it simpler, if you have more ideas, expand on it, that sort of thing.

>>7044008
I can't into basic construction, it's over

>>7044008
I'm unhappy with this and not because of my lack of technical skill I just feel something missing internally idk..

>>7044058
it's missing that jelly rendering

>>7044061
wasn't really going for that

I want to draw something tomorrow but i probably won't because i haven't the last 50 times i had gotten around to it.
Fml i just want to be able to do these bullshit fundies i don't even get good i just want to do better.

>>7044058
random dot on face kill me more. How do I realise after

>>7044058
I'm not sure what you're asking for. Her chest looks like she stuffs her bra, the body shape doesn't align with her top. The hands are obviously rough too. Other than that, I dunno it looks like a fine sketch anon

>>7044032
>>7044038
Thanks omw to become the second coming of Franklin Booth

>>7044058
Ok bro firstly, if you cant draw hands well, dont emphasize them with thick black lineart because the attention will go there first. Second, you need to grasp the idea of line consistency. Look at her left arm and how thick and scribbly the lines are, then look at how thin the lineart is on her hair. the green on her pants is messing with me too, and the other colors you used arent bad, just that green is weird. be careful with your line composition and understand you need some kind of harmony. lastly, someone pointed out rightfully so that it looks like she stuffs her bra, its partially because the lack of general shading to convey the form properly, but you put a shadow waaaay in the wrong place on one of the spagetti straps, it makes it look like she has a completely flat chest and a stuffed bra. I teach art

>>7044040
Sexy and goof, blog?

>>7044008
Why did you put my monstrosity in the OP...She looks like she has down syndrome.

>>7044109
>anime girls with down syndrome
I never thought about that

>>7044058
Maybe an outline/shadow to make her pop out?

>>7044040
didn't you posted something really similar a few months ago? I think it looks the same, but good work.

>>7044156
ya but i fixed the face a little, i'll get to line art and actually make it look different, also idk how the hell u remembered that mister photographic memory anon

Give me tips on how to get back into the mix as a lazy bum.
I don't need to do 14 hours of solid grind i just want to actually start drawing.
How do i go about it?

Copying random stuff from ToTK artbook to learn digital painting, should i keep going or stop? I want something like loomis but for digital painting.

>>7044160
Think about the thing you like and draw it.

>>7044172
Keep going but if you truly want to practiceMAXX you could make a copy, then try to make something similar to the copy but done by yourself using what you learned from it. Copying and applying is way way better for learning than just copying

I've been practicing drawing boxes but they almost always come out looking 2d. Any advice? If you want examples you'll have to wait for tomorrow.

Hated drawing this fuck, but I think I did alright.

>>7044175
Alright ill keep at it then, thanks.
I don't have a hard time copying but memory drawing exactly or in a different pose is exhausting and i tend to forget a lot of details, I guess it'll get better with time.

>>7044191
did u do this in free time or in an art class?
asking for fren...

>>7044208
Free time.

>>7044209
oh ok :[

Still kind of figuring out my rendering process. Gonna study more tummies. Next bunny its gonna be fanart.

>>7044235
>filename
latam nigger detected

But nice work it's been really cool to see your whole process and I think it turned out really appealing. I like your colours and lighting, where did you learn to render like that?

>>7044235

I'm not gonna pretend it's the best thing ever but I'm proud of how this thing turned out.

>>7044266
amongus

>>7044258
> where did you learn to render like that?
Marc Brunnet on the beginning but I gotta admit rendering in black and white is kind of unfun overall. I also learned some stuff by watching this dude: https://www.youtube.com/@u_u_zan

I need to do more rendering studies. My proccess is kind of a mess.

I’m looking forward to not drawing this weekend. How about you?

>>7044074
booth didn't crosshatch

>>7044266
that vase kinda sus

Why God, why God do I gotta suffer?
Pain in my heart carry burdens full of struggle
Why God, why God do I gotta bleed?
Every stone thrown at you restin' at my feet
Why God, why God do I gotta suffer?
Earth is no more, won't you burn this muh'fucka?

>>7044266
would fuck

>>7044266

>when you do a good drawing and cant stop smiling

>>7044350
>When you see it the next day and the shotgun shell under the stove starts speaking again.

Starting the hand grind, I'll fill our the page tomorrow.

>>7044316
Cute!


I will post some old draws, lately i dont draw that much because its very hot here... cant concentrate...

Jeanne

>>7044022
nice scribbles THOUGH

how many chnages csn tou makwmto drawing before it’sni longer thesame drawing and if you”ve come to the point where it’s been redrawn soesn’t thst mean you wated time wirh the original?

>>7044500
are you ok? are you having a stroke?

I fucked up the study. I think I'll remake it. I'm not pleased with how it turned out. Plus, I don't know anatomy lul or rendering. FML senpai. It sucks having started now at 28.

>>7044506
i9m fifne

Took advice from last thread, zoomed out and made the canvas size a lot bigger

I think my 3/4 rotated head view still looks a little bit off. I'm not sure what it is though.

>>7044512
Size of the eyes
Position of eyes
Shape of eyes

Size of eyebrows
Size of nose

Position of basically everything

You are basically drawing from your head instead of copying. And what's inside your head right now is the wrong answer to the problem.

>>7044508
That looks fucking terrifying, like Hogger from WoW if he was turned into an undead abomination by the Scourge

>>7044512
Also line weight and head shape too. Line weight is super important for good looking anime.

>>7044512
You need to do some actual portraits of real people and learn construction of the head, afterwards drawing animu heads comes easy.

>>7044022
Draw to learn.

>>7044008
>My gesture drawing question made it to the top
>No one gave a real answer
It was a genuine question. The only ones I can find are full of roasties with the legs wide open and fat neckbeards posing like swimsuit models.

is it worth drawing near bed time?

>>7044517
The thing is I'm using the Loomis method (the sphere with the sides cut off) and I found that the proportions of Loomis heads are usually at odds with anime heads

>>7044526
So I should stick to realistic stuff for now instead of anime?

>>7044520
What's with the line weight that needs fixing?

>>7044531
I do my best stuff when i should be sleeping. See?

>>7044532
>I found that the proportions of Loomis heads are usually at odds with anime heads
You're just discovering that anime characters have massive heads and weird facial proportions?

>>7044555
I'm just wondering which is better to do now, the proportions of anime or the proportions of more realistic faces/heads

>>7044559
If you're long term goal is "draw a character in any pose, in any perspective from imagination" then start with real heads

And now something completely different
>>7044013
Learn to draw monsters/animals, learn to draw girls, and VERY IMPORTANTLY study monster girl art. That’s something I think I’m gonna do, too, at some point. Love me some monster girls.
>>7044022
Just compulsively/mindlessly draw from anatomy refs or mecha or something. IIRC, Will Weston will just randomly draw from anatomy books as his mindless doodle time. Obviously, pay attention when you do your copies, but it’s mentally less demanding than trying to dream up something wholesale, and it’s more productive than random scribbles. But there’s nothing wrong with random scribbles.
>>7044035
Giggity
>>7044040
Oh, hey, I remember you! Long time no see. I;d say study hands and feet. The rest is basically decent. I think his knee/thigh closest to us should be a lil bigger than the far thigh
>>7044055
Have you done basic observation first? If not, do that. If yes, try the first couple lessons of DrawABox.
>>7044191
Yeah, great job, anon
>>7044235
Looks good. I agree with others about the thighs being a bit flaccid, and the bent wrist/hand needing work. Not overall very nice, anon.
>>7044266
>I'm not gonna pretend it's the best thing ever
No need to pretend
>>7044316
Cute, dead eyes tho
>>7044350
I don’t think I’ve ever had this feel
>>7044353
Thankfully I’ve never had this feel either. Just a determination to improve
>>7044408
Based
>>7044455
Oh, I like this a lot. Very charming
>>7044458
Keep going, anon. I can see you’re thinking and struggling and fighting to grow. Keep doing more and you’re GMI. I can feel it.
>>7044508
Nightmare fuel, good job! Very gestural, good atmosphere and mood
>>7044539
Oh, very nice. I like the colors.

>>7044562
well I guess it's good that I enjoy the mathematical approach to the Loomis method

How do I fix this?

Snake scythe

>>7044578
Like I said before, skin color

>>7044578
with more gesture/figure drawing practice
and use ref for the drapery

>>7044580
Shut up racist. She just needs a big fried chicken leg in her left fist

>>7044585
The big creatures face looks like burger andy

>>7044588
>>7044585

>>7044455
very cute and really like all the details you put in

>>7044273
Cross hatch is a form of hatching, and Dunn's book has a lot of hatching exercises including cross hatch. Read the fucking book before trying to correct me bro!

Is there some secret how to connect the fucking line?!?!

>>7044608
Yes. Watch the entire section on drawing circles and ellipses.
https://youtu.be/wgDNDOKnArk?feature=shared&t=878

I'm sick of all my drawings being in black and white, but color is like the last thing listed in the wiki. Surely there are some resources on color my simple /beg/ mind could comprehend, right?

>>7044640
thanks!

>>7044555
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>>7044517
I tried sticking truer to real life proportions using Loomis, think this is better?

I think I got the eyes a bit fucky in distance cause of the slightly rotated view

>>7044718
It sucks. Actually learn your fundies. Start grinding heads, you keep posting the same shit and asking if it's better each time.

People like this are why Loomis gets a bad rep here

Study i did from a discord image

>>7044731
It's frustrating to see people on here who don't know shit about drawing call books that have helped so many people a meme or whatever when in reality the problem is low IQ begs who can't self critique

>>7044730
your feedback could have some more information and less insulting but I did look up other videos on the matter

>>7044755
I don't jack off with the whole hand like that. Is my dick small?

>>7044760
>>7044755
I'm more concerned with the grip, the way the back of the hand is facing up looks like he's torquing his dick

>>7044765
I'm concerned the looming existential threat of having a tiny penis.
Although i have to agree, the grip does look odd

>>7044760
Yes.

>>7044755
Did you do a loomis for those penises? Nice landscapes btw

>>7044696
blog?

>>7044760
Depends on the size of your hand. My hands are small(smaller than some girl hands) but pp is above average so I can barely hold it with both.

>>7044765
I got that one from /hm/,I fucked up the perspective but I think he's actually clamping on it and pulling up to make the tip look wider.

>>7044780
he's doing that claw grip thing to make it look bigger than it actually is. do you have any more pictures of this guy's penis from different angles?

>>7044780
That perspective looks more natural. I think in the pic the tip of the dick looks likes it's facing too forward and not up enough, so it has a weird look to it like it's being bent

>>7044769
FUCK
How's that possible? I measured it and it seemed fine. Maybe i inflated the size somehow.
>>7044777
What's a good check for hand size?
I've never thought of them as big but yea maybe(hopefully)


Also what are the artistic implications of having a tiny clit. Does that make you NGMI?

I am a bot.

>>7044731
I wonder how many people just itch at the chance to bitch at someone else here

Reilly rhythms
Need it or keep it?

>>7044789
I mean he got a detailed list of all the things that went wrong and instead of making an effort and correcting them he went "No i am doing this right since I'm following this guy" and posted another attempt with the same mistakes. You want us to praise him or what? He needs to go draw more.

>>7044795
who are you talking about?

>>7044795
>"No i am doing this right since I'm following this guy"
That's not what I even said.

>>7044718
>I tried sticking truer to real life proportions using Loomis, think this is better?
I said I tried sticking to better proportions I didn't say it was fucking right. I even thought it looked a bit fucked even the second attempt.

>You want us to praise him or what?
For someone who critiqued drawing in the head instead of copying you sure respond to what's in your head instead of what people actually said.

>>7044784
>How's that possible? I measured it and it seemed fine
Could just be you got really wide hands. Are you measuring it from the top of the dick to the base of the pelvis?

Also what do you even jack off with? Just first finger and thumb or some shit?

What's the point of using this thread if you guys are just going to talk about dicks?

how to line control

>>7044903
pressure. it won't fix your drawing though

>>7044819
I measure it from where its usable. I did do press the ruler into the skin a bit but that could only sway it 0.2 inches max.

I jack off with all my fingers except the pinky, i just don't grip my fist around it. I put the pressure on in a specific location and then move it around as opposed to envelpoing my dick in the handpussy.

This might not even be caused by wide hands tbhh. I just have a very specific and odd way of griping and manipualting objects(which is in huge part why i suck at arts)

God i hope my cock isn't small

Can I get some feedback please?

>>7044823
having a fat cock is one of the prerequestites to making it, how would you convince twinks to pose naked for you if not by promising them a brutal dicking when you're done.

Why do you think all women draw without references, they don't have access to the resources we do

how come when I copy my stuff looks good, but when I draw from imagination it looks like shit? How much do I need to copy until it's burned into my mind?

>>7044907
what will fix my drawing, then?

>>7044937
perspective on the face seems off, colorbones look weird, no sternocleidomastoid muscle showing, shoulders are fucked up, line weight all over the place

>>7044985
drawing from ref and knowing how to draw from observation is the easiest way to fix it

>>7044981
When you are drawing from imagination, fundies become even more important than when you're just copying. Copying can definitely teach you a lot and can help you with drawing in certain styles, but you need some understanding of anatomy, perspective and construction and shit if you want to draw from scratch

tell me what to draw next

>>7044512
I appreciate your attempt at filomena but you need to work basically everything, line weight, proportions, construction.
Feels like you approaching this the wrong way.

>>7045019
Kamen Rider striking a pose.

On a scale of how many peens

>>7044532
>proportions of Loomis heads are usually at odds with anime heads
there's no set proportions for the loomis head

>>7045111
not in FWAP but in DTHAH yes

>>7044981
Perhaps you need to do more construction.

tja, isso

lately I'm finding easier to draw hands than anything else

>>7045176
good job. keep it up.

>>7045176
https://youtu.be/_Q--tYvb8eE?t=114
watch how rino goes slowly and thinks about each line, erasing and making minute changes, varying his line weight as he draws
also notice how he mostly uses straight lines to properly define angles and shapes, they are easier to control and to see if something is off

>>7045073
amazing work

kill yourself attention whore.
Nobody likes your art.
Nobody reply or give any attention to this individual.

>>7045218
i like it, who's this supposed to be? btw do you have any advice on how to make your lines nice cuz i struggle with that

stop replying to yourself.
nobody likes you

>>7045247
Yer pissin me off.

Who?

>>7045218
do more full bodies please (in the same 3/4) I like your stuff

attention whore "artist" who keeps replying to himself.
Always posting the same shit.

How do you into backgrounds/landscapes?

>>7045261
not him, seethe, I like his art. And you dont draw either so quiet down

>>7045261
You sound a bit angry, anon. Did he overshadow your drawing with (You)s?

i wish i could just create fanart without thinking about crap like fundies or 250 torsos

>>7044928
>I jack off with all my fingers except the pinky
SpongeBobmaxxing

>>7045247
Googly eyes?
He mogs 90+% of /beg/ AND is having fun drawing

Copying porno comics. First time trying a 6B pencil after a lifetime of Hb. Yes I'm retarded how did you know

>>7045278
So he should post on /draw/

>>7045282
I'd prefer he posts here, are you going to PYW so we can praise that instead or shall I continue with his

>>7045284
I'm on /lsg/

>>7045285
more like your on LSD, if you're not going to PYW then relax and take your vendetta elsewhere

>>7045286
>>7044150

Go back to your hugbox general.

He is literally replying to himself
this thread was nice until this faggot showed up asking for "Advice" and self loathing his art, yet he makes no efforts to improve or anything.
He is literally just an attention whore.

>>7045298
> this thread was nice
There’s no need to lie, anon

>>7045177
thanks, I'll try
>>7045183
Yeah, I was trying to work on the way I draw lines. I was using the exercises at DrawaBox ch 1 as a warmup before drawing because some anon recommended it. He also talked about thinking before putting the line down, and they seem to be geared towards that. not noticing much so far, but I've only been making these warmups for 2-3 weeks

What part of this thread was nice?

>>7045292
Damn bro seems like you can't take critique on your critique

>>7045305
The work being posted, critiques and encouragement

>>7045308
lol

>>7045305
The lack of yesmen and circlejerks.
>7045307
Sidemouths are never going to look correct no matter how many times you say it's your style. The only exception to sidemouths is that they look passable in animation under a budget. With that said, fuck off back to your asspat general.

>>7045305
it was generally relaxed and laid back before this faggot showed up posting his shitty doodles for no real reason
>doesnt critique
>doesnt provide anything of quality
>doesn't ask for advice, the only advice that was given to him was promptly ignored to post more doodles
>does the same shitty thing every single time.
>keeps posting shit doodles that add nothing to the thread

>>7045298
woah bro, you don't like schizo spammers? that's a little problematic I'm gonna need to see your government issued ID.

>>7045311
They helped me improve

>>7045308
...Critiques? Where?

>>7045322
Here

It’s dumb shit like this that makes me glad I don’t draw.

>>7045325
It has nothing to do with drawing tho, this is just autism not being kept in check
this faggot could easily fuck off to twitter or anywhere else to post his garbage doodles.

>>7045321
These assholes? People improve despite them, not because of them.

>>7045327
They were pretty kind to me half a year ago and you can always look someone's work and see what others are recommending him to work on and see if that applies to you

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>>7045331
I like his works

>>7045318
aa far as i can tell the guy you are hate circlejerking over only posted one drawing in this thread >>7045218
i admit im out of the loop but to someone who doesn't come here often it was surprising to see several people go rabid over a harmless doodle.

>>7045326
Maybe. But you’d still be an asshole.

>>7045218
can you draw asuna from SAO

>>7045336
Its not about the doodle itself
its about posting the same shit everytime and providing nothing, yet expecting praise.
This guy already posted before saying he was not good enough and he couldn't make money out of art because "it looked like this", people tell him it wasnt that bad and now he is hooked on attention whoring for praise.
He is making no efforts in improving.

And she's done.

Pretty proud of this one mainly because I have the older version from 2021 to compare it to, and this study looks leagues better.

Still feel insecure though about the fact it's a study, so I dunno how much I really gained from finishing this.

Can I get some critique on this hand?
I can't get it looking right.

>>7045353
If you try doing that you most likely will have the indicator slightly out compared to the other fingers

>>7045346
Don't know how long you've been here for but he's been drawing like that on purpose for several years now and I've seen how he actually draws. Don't ask me why he's still continuing his charade of being a doodling beglet I suppose he gets off from people like you who get pissed off.

>>7045357
actually most finger seems too long now that i look at it.

>>7045361
Good eye

Does anyone have that image/ tumblr page about an exercise that is said to help build your visual library.
They used shrimp as an example of how to do it

>>7045353
First off, great attempt! I love the expression you've given to the hand, although the gesture of the palm and fingers could be juuuust a little better! Second, try making the same pose in the mirror to get the anatomy right! You'll notice that your hand doesn't abduct, or move away from your body, that much in that given pose, right??? Right now it's, like, a liiiiiittle hard to make out the orientation of the arm and wrist! Try to define the position of the arm and the wrist, use a box form for the wrist and one for the metacarpals too in order to define the perspective, sweetums! <3 Sending lots of love <33 your way!! Mwah!

Sorry for another offtopic cockpost but i just finished having a wank and i don't think its small.

What does that mean in regards to art? Does having a small wang make you more or less ngmi? What's the correlation here?

>>7045366 (me)
Ok, just found it
https://chickahdee.tumblr.com/post/32743819937/shrimp-method

>>7045375
less testosterone, smaller penis size, more connections between certain areas of the prefrontal cortex dealing with logic and out of bounds thinking, also more likely to have increases visuospatial awareness. GMI. how big are you

Does anyone have that comic where a guy wants to pet a dog but doesn't know how? To mock howies
I can't find it

Leave Howie alone.

>>7045381
The specific measurments are my future wife's property, but i am slightly above the average.

>>7045369
Thanks for the advice.
I tried fixing it a bit, But ill try redrawing it with the box.

Does being a chode help with shading?

>>7045353
pinkie looks a little bit long compared to the index finger

>>7045402
this one looks better

however the point where it bends at the top of the wrist looks like it's a little bit too far forward. I think it would look better if it was moved a bit to the left cause right now it looks like the end of the forearm bone is curved

>>7045201
Thanks anon :)

>>7045422
Thanks for the feedback.

Didn't knew there's a general for this so i clogged the 'log
>>7045440
I wanted to draw someone with interesting appearance, but after i finished shading his skin i realized the face turned out completely different. I suppose i'll learn more if finish it but i already know i won't be satisfied with the result
Also critique please

I already know i fucked up the most basic step with the eyes

>>7045482
Don't worry about color for a month, focus on learning about observation drawing first

>>7045482
>I already know i fucked up the most basic step with the eyes
so why dont you fix it? figure out what the issue is and fix it, are u retarded?

Literally I hate lighting and shadow so much. Such a huge part of my brain is taken over by perspective and anatomy and now you're telling me light and shadow wants the other half? fuck

>>7045504
that's why you draw first, render later and not at the same time when learning

>>7045504
If you’re already good at drawing 3D forms in perspective, placing shadows follows naturally from that understanding. No comment on color. Fuck color.

>>7045504
anyone who tells you that lighitng comes from form is lying. You cannot create lighting based on planes and 3d thinking. It's too complicated.

Lighting comes from copying 2d shapes, the kyousaisenn between light and shadow, and the varying values that come between them. Eventually, you will have painted these 2d shapes so much you can transpose them onto 3d shapes somewhat, but that comes later.

>>7045526
That is why you simplify things https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pP9aJvpCn-s

>>7045346
>>7045359
He SMILE IN YOUR FACE all the time he wanna' take your place the back stabbers, BACK STABBERS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcAt3le3oas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zQGnHsCzzA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPg7tUhAog8

>>7045562
what can i do to get on the right track I WISH THEY'D TAKE
SOME OF THESE KNIVES
OFF MY BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACCCKKKK

>>7045019
I'm the one that asked for that Capt.Falcon. It turned out nice, many thanks. I like the hatching you are trying to implement and I wish you good luck

>>7045504
That doesnt sound fun to you? Use the shadows and highlights as shapes and make them obvious, its like a puzzle. Study facial planes, and utilize your anatomy/perspective skills to help you learn light/shadow.

At what point do I stop being embarrassed about my drawing?

>>7045584
As soon as possible because feeling or at least appearing confident about your art is what you have to be to gmi.

>>7045584
With observation drawing, pretty quick

>>7045584
If the next day you aren't utterly repulsed by it then it's probably okay to post. You'll be able to see mistakes that you weren't seeing before since you were focused

how can I improve from here apart from the hand?

>>7044190
My boxes in question, give it to me straight

>>7045600
learning how to draw from observation first

>>7045590
this is bait, try harder next time lad

>>7045600
Didn't you zoomers have to draw boxes in math classes?

>>7045600
Draw a box lesson 1. Now.

>>7045600
tape your paper to the table with painter's tape in you can. to the left and right of the paper, place two more pieces of tape, so that if connected, they would draw a line that is parallel with the top and bottom of your paper. on the paper, draw a vertical line. anywhere. from the top and bottom of the line, draw lines that stretch back towards each of your off-page points. you should now have two sets of lines that meet at your initial, vertical line. somewhere, anywhere along those two "tracks" of lines, place two more vertical lines, one to the left and one to the right of the first vertical line, intersecting the lines that travel to your off-page points. now, with the leftmost vertical line, connect it at the top and bottom to the off-page point on the right. now, with the rightmost vertical line, connect it from the top and bottom of the line to the off-page point on the left. enjoy your cube and be aware that drawing is essentially doing this over and over, in your head.

I need discipline, drawing should be a priority yet barely drawn this year.

>>7045620
I like your handwriting. Hungarian is a great language

>>7045264
Anyone? I'm really at a loss here.

>>7045628
observation, thumbnail, composition, perspective

>>7045628
>How do you *incredibly open question*

>>7045630
What is that second thing?
>>7045632
I mean, I really don't know where to start. like, I haven't really looked into perspective and or lighting. But I have played with them a bit. I don't even know how to draw grass or bushes. I tried using 3d shapes and working from there with success.

Alright Norling, you slippery son of a bitch. I may not have used references and this city is out of proportion but I kind of understand the perspective. I forgor why I'm learning perspective again but I'm off to copy some anime mecha.

dogshit ass drawing

>>7045639
thumbnailing for composition exploration

>>7045600
check a short video about 1, 2 and 3 vanishing points, then just draw a bunch of cubes, use a reference, here is one https://idlecanvas-wagmi.web.app/?mode=3d

just don't mindlessly copy, check when lines are skewed, parallel or perpendicular. Also try to find the vanishing points of each cube.

>>7045600
What the fuck. You do know boxes traditionally only have straight lines at a minimum?

I will start my ADHD meds next week. Maybe then I'll finally start drawing more.

>>7045686
they’ll make you fat, they serve Big Macs. They serve quarter pounders. They will put pounds on you.

>>7045600
clearly this anon is simply choosing to just draw the 3 back planes as an artistic choice, leaving it to the viewer to envision the frontal edges in your mind's eye. You guys simply aren't on the same level as him.

>>7045699
My mind is blown

>>7045600
>>7045699
Holy fucking shit, you’re right. It’s the same way for every single box he drew.

Ahn! Onii-Chan, m-my knees are b-bending on their own!

>finally maintain believable proportion
>forgor to draw trigger
it's ogre

>>7045697
Based Wesley Willis quoter

>>7045699
that's bullshit, but i believe it

>>7045699
>tfw anon can see the unseen side

>>7044458
good work, anon.

>>7045707
...just add it?

>>7045609
Yes, which makes it more embarrassing :(
>>7045611
>>7045660
>>7045604
Noted
>>7045666
I'm still wondering why my dumbass doesn't use a ruler yet
>>7045699
No anon it's worse, consult the second left and right ones from the top and the second one from the bottom on the right. Thats what they're supposed to look. You should be lucky you aren't on this level

>>7045526
Double digit IQ post

>>7045728
it's ogre, don't you get it?

>>7045731
big issue with these tuts is that these are nearly orthographic. the lines need to be slightly converging for it to be perspective. some of these hit the mark but this is really something that needs to be studied and done over and over.

>>7045735
I'm starting to notice that now, think I'll stop trying to copy of it then and move on to better ones

>>7045520
oh. the boobs aren’t as googly as i expected.

>>7045756
they are ok to start with. take the ortho ones and just bow the lines in slightly and voila. but yes when you want to practice perspective you need to imagine and obey the vanishing points.

>>7044753
cute, keep at it

>>7045652
i look into it
thanks

>>7045600
Learn to copy/observation skills first
https://files.catbox.moe/ir0nup.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/l2guxd.mp4

I've watched another guide on Loomis that said to echo the curve of the ear over the midpoint between the oval and the end of the circle

I think the proportions work better now.

However I feel like the ears are always a bit small.

Also any advice for drawing better mouths? I always had a hard time with them, especially making them expressive

Nodraw here. Tell me what to do to get better and i will proceed to do so this very moment for real no joke.

>>7045805
draw

Can someone explain how these boobs make sense

>>7045811
it's anime, they don't need to make sense

>>7045811
they dont
and coomers don't care

>>7045811
Maybe if she were being fondled by a ghost, or if she were some kind of boob mime, and mimed that her right (on our left) tit was being compressed against an invisible object. Having somewhat antigravity boobs is acceptable. Having tits that are thrust forward as if in a compression bra is… not ideal, but a forgivable sin. This kind of unjustified deformation is just not good at all. It’s almost like they drew her in a pose with her arm somehow cradling, supporting, or compressing her bust, but then changed their mind and decided to have both her arms down instead… only they left the boobs deformed. Look at the wrinkles on her shirt, you can see how they show this phantom compression. Maybe the artist thought that her upper arm would cause some breast deformation in this pose, but they severely miscalculated. At that angle, the arm wouldn’t cause such a disturbance in the force. Anyway, no, those boobs do not make sense.

>>7045808
FUCK
If i could draw i'd draw a Fire Punch meme thing where he says "Just Draw" instead of "Live"

>>7045811
/beg/ has a bad habit of demanding perfection when most people don't notice such details.

>>7045837
My read is that her right arm *is* supposed to be slightly raised, as she's reaching across her lap to her left hip. However, the perspective on the arm isn't portrayed well enough to make that obvious so it just looks like her boobs are floating weirdly.

>>7045854
Someone could post a Rembrandt here and anons would find a way to shit all over it.

>>7045865
So how many replies are usable feedback vs someone just wanting to shit on something else?

>>7045880
>feedback
you must be new

>>7045865
This isn't even an exaggeration. I've literally seen people on /ic/ trash talk people like Kim Jung or Krenz.

>>7045887
All artwork are toilets and everyone's got diarrhea then?

>>7045891
Have you never gone to a bar?

>>7045891
Yeah or even crab Michelangelo by saying his figures look like bags of walnuts

>>7045899
Why would I? I'm some normalfaggot.

>>7045902
Let me tell you that /ic/ and many other boards are a lot like a bar, you'll find all kinds of people and the ones drunk enough may or may not start unwinding their emotions to whoever approaches them. The only difference is that instead of getting drunk you're just anonymous and can talk whatever to whoever

Night night

>>7045891
it's not uncommon to find 'mistakes' in work made by pros
hell, it's even more reasonable since they are working with deadlines or specific constraints
it's silly to demand perfection when failibility is part of what makes art interesting

>>7045911
sticky worthy

In a few hours, the annual Shibuya Rin General will commence. Join me, in drawing lots and lots of SHIBUYA RINs and SHIBOOGIE RINS in celebration of feb 4th 2019, the very first shibuya rin general on /ic/. >>/ic/thread/3796945
i will link to the thread when it is up, make sure to bring your pencils, your papers, erasers and drawing program of choice to draw some SHIBUYA, rin.
be there or be square because we're gonna draw LOTS of fucking pissed off Shibuya Rin.

I've advanced to drawing OCs

>>7045989

went back and redrew my own shit (>>7042869
) with ((structure)) in mind. maybe i can learn how to draw after all

>>7045996
this too...some from imagination doodles. i wish i could find better figure packs, i don't see what i'm supposed to learn from a figure 90% covered in a blanket or twisted in such a way that there's no real body to draw, just a torso and its arms. does anyone have recommendations

i'm honestly stumped on what i should start with to learn how to draw as a digital artist.

>>7046000
apple

>>7046002
so just focus on making a bunch of apples til i feel like i'm good enough to go bigger?

>>7046000
>>7046003
https://davidfinchart.com/where-to-start-and-where-to-go-from-there-a-roadmap-to-professional-quality-art/

>>7046000
draw sasha grey

How much precision am I supposed to strive for when doing studies? A lot of artists I've seen like krenz stress the importance of being as precise as i can with my studies but also i've seen actual professional artists post studies and their stuff is very loose.

so what should i strive for when studying?

>>7046039
in studies accuracy doesn't matter at all

>>7046027
should probably brush up on my box training since it's been a decade since i practiced it, and i have no experience doing it digitally.
>>7046034
i can literally not draw anything remotely presentable without tracing anon. that'd be impossible atm.

>>7046003
just draw anything anon. Get used to the act of drawing

>>7046039
It depends on why/what you're studying. Accurate studies are important, but sometimes you just want to work out the vibes of a scene.

>>7046000
Draw some BIG ASS.

>>7046057
just seen a BIG OL' ASS

>>7046045
genuinely ngmi

>>7046051
i might just stick to what i'm familiar with
>>7046057
this actually helped me make something that isn't traced this time and just referenced.

super rough, but i'm actually happy i could make something atleast

>>7046098
Have this as an award

Goddamn, poses from imagination raw and with zero warmup are fucking brutal. These suck, wow. I’m not gonna do that again anytime soon lol
>>7046039
Like 80% accuracy. It depends a lot on what you’re doing. Like if you’re studying the colors or doing a value breakdown or like a compositional study, that’s gonna be different than if you’re trying to learn someone’s hatching style, which will be different from learning someone’s underlying construction techniques. But for just doing copies (which you should be doing lots of) aim for about 80% accuracy.
>>7046000
Start with a basic observational drawing course. Learn to draw what you see and not what you think you see. I like Betty Edwards’s book, but there’s a bunch of em out there. Proko, Eviston, keys to drawing, krenz, whatever jives with you. Once you can see, then you can study whatever. But you gotta be able to see.

Once you can see, try this >>7046027 or maybe dynamic sketching/DrawABox to build your construction muscle.
>>7045996
Looks better now, good job
>>7045911
Sleep tight
>>7045999
Check’d and also for really good refs, read this post and the replies >>7039128

LET THE SHIBUYA RIN COMMENCE
>>7046130
>>7046130
>>7046130

and interchangeably posting SHIBUYA rin while in the other thread.

>>7046103
appreciate the donk anon.
>>7046131
the image i referenced for that drawing actually helped me alot, i think that's something i can keep working on.

Wanted to draw a handsome old man portrait, how is it?

>>7046156
does not look very old. probably because the face is too short

>>7046165
I see, I visioned him as a guy around his late 40s, made his face a bit wide to give it's rougher look. Anything else I need to touch upon?

Cunny warning
So... I am trying to work from the groud up because I have been told that my shit is flat and misshapen and been reading up a bit about fundies so can I told if I am actually using proper construction in this shitty doodle and how to actually make it look 3d?
I have seen artists make sketches look stunningly "alive" while everything I make looks flat and insipid so I would like to know whats the magic trick.
https://files.catbox.moe/9tluud.JPG

>>7046163
lovely art as always

When people say "copy as accurately as possible" in my head that means to spend as many hours as is required to get it perfectly 1:1 because the only limiting factor on accuracy is time. But I feel this isn't right?

>>7046215
Many art academies teach their students to do master studies with the goal being to copy it as accurately as possible. Yes, that can mean spending 100s of hours on a single piece. There are many pros and cons to this method, but overall the time investment isn't worth it and most people aren't suited for such a hardcore method so I wouldn't recommend them unless you are up for the challenge.
Accurately copying everything is just one type of master study. You can focus on one or two aspects you want to study. If you just wanted to study color, you can be a bit looser with the perspective, proportions etc. or skip some steps by tracing or painting over.

This recent video talked about master studies and suggested an alternative method.
https://youtu.be/BhZpjtZoT44?t=63

Anthony Jones also had some good tips in this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kfK46nruKM

What is the point of copying bridgeman? Am I meant to be learning observation/accuracy?

>>7046277
To have fun when you don't know what to draw

>>7046280
Does anyone actually have fun copying bridgeman?

>>7046282
I occasionally copy Junichi Hayama's book and it's fun, idk about Bridgman haven't tried yet

>>7046282
>Does anyone actually have fun drawing?
Eternal ngmi

What makes this place so hostile at times?

I've seen threads on /tg/ be more civil

>>7046285
>if you don't enjoy something that is literally meant to be part endurance test you're NGMI

>>7046296
This is the worst drawing community, but you're here forever

>>7046298
>Worst drawing community
I mean is any subforum on 4chan ever not the worst community of it's respective hobby?

>>7046339
>>7046339
new
>>7046339
>>7046339

>>7046131
>Check’d and also for really good refs, read this post and the replies
thank you!

>>7044929
Really cute.