/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

How do I draw men if I don't like looking at dicks all day?

>>7038595
castrate them

>>7038595
feel the form (of the dick)

>>7038587

>>7038595
Stop being sexist and draw more women.

Blueliners or redliners, i need some help

>>7038609
I'm not good enough to redline but the first thing that jumped out to me was the fact the nipples aren't symmetrical.

>>7038609
I think the breasts should flatten and flop to the sides. I also gave her more curves, in case that's the look you were going for.

I drew myself a banner and avatar. I wanna try my hand at this artist twitter shit; I have no idea how to actually market myself though.

>>7038631
>スクリーンショット
You running your OS in fucking moon runes?

>>7038633
I am an ajatter

>>7038635
The fuck you doing here then Matthew? Go to 2ch or something.

>>7038636
I don't have a good comeback to this. time to immerse more

When I was in high school, sites like DeviantArt and Tumblr had thriving communities of teenage geeks, weebs, and furrys drawing and sharing crappy but deeply sincere art. Usually fanart and OCs
Do places like this still exist? Everywhere I look seems filled with competents and professionals

why is it when I draw with my mouse+paint my drawings come out way better, but when I swap to my intuos and use photoshop my skills turn to shit?

>>7038640
pixiv

>>7038649
This is an image board, you're allowed to post images of what you're talking about instead of trying to make us guess.

Here is one of my figure drawings from today. Any tips? I'll post a few more.

>>7038655

>>7038655
>>7038656

>>7038655
>>7038656
>>7038658

tell me what to draw next

>>7038667
Captain Falcon
>Why
I played him today and it was cool

>>7038655
could be worse.
i'm sure her build didn't do you any favors, but this sort of thing where a dozen different curves get blended together and smoothed out into a one vague wet noodle is something that tends to plague /beg/ drawings.

One more for the day

>>7038667
just draw or draw to learn. But if you need to be prompted like NPC, here is one, draw a 4 dimensional apple with 2 dimensional medium.

think I figured out the palette thing, not difficult at all. can quickly check in grayscale to check value too
my hunch says that mixing secondary colors like orange and purple is a bad idea, but if it looks good in terms of value and was made from a palette method then fuck it

>>7038699
gmi

>>7038709
You mean it or did you forget the n?

>>7038712
I mean it.

>>7038715
Aw shucks :3

>>7038723
Now better don't disappoint me!

>>7038694
Do you have any tips for ditching that?

As a /beg/ I've made myself a plan. While I practice and take in lessons, I'm going to make a finished piece once a week.
Plus, I'll sketch at least once a day.

>>7038730
Define finished piece

>>7038730
what does your practice look like?

>>7038704
smart usage of a thumbnail. give a try to RGB sliders to darken and lighten your colors too, it may help you get more "organic" transitions. color quantization may an interesting subject for you to learn from.

>>7038733
A composition, one with linework and ink at least. Or just linework.

>>7038741
Exercise from a book or copying a drawing in a book.

>>7038667
draw the same again, but better

god i hate anime

>>7038765
god i hate you

>>7038765
based
>>7038767
troon

>>7038767
you're working hard to have art that looks like 99% of other online animes lol

heres todays slop, not a whole lot of thoughts on this one besides it took too long for what was achieved and maybe that i shouldnt be trying to focus on pencil rendering when end goals would be digital or watercolor/gouache/oils

>>7038769
>hating anime on an anime website
nigga where do you think we are

i love drawing anime

>>7038776
Blog? Where can I masturbate to more of your work

>>7038776
Luna fag, do you have a blog?

Some 2.5 minute gesture/croqui

I won’t draw for this thread, either.

Chaos

Does anyone notice any glaring issues with this lineart?

>>7038599
I like the colors! (Even if it is just an underpainting, it looks good)
>>7038603
Super cool!

>>7038831
I think you should look up a reference or take a picture of yourself wearing a similar garment, because the drapery looks flat and losing the impression of the figure as a result, most notably with both arms and the legs

no drawings today long day at work, but a little of digital compositing but I fucked the interpolation. gmic is stupid powerful with a little more polish and better mesh tools krita can seriously own opentoonz.

>>7038792
bottom right is really good, exaggerate it more!

nite nite guys

>>7038831
Arm is long as fuck

>>7038587
So what is this "fundies" you all keep saying? Just turning things into cubes and cylinders?

>>7038859
Accuracy
Construction
Form
Perspective
Anatomy
Lighting
Drapery
Colour
Composition

I went on quickposes and spent a minute on each face. Yeah they look like shit, but I actually had fun instead of being afraid to do anything.

>>7038875
good work anon. quickposes was how I learned to draw. If I didn't have that gamified session every day to look foward to, I would've never had the consistency to make any gains

I was gonna ask WHAT the fuck this was but I forgot women's hip bones go higher than men's

>>7038877
Why don't you come up with your own characters and stories? That's always a great impetus to draw.

>>7038899
I do that too, but you need to study to improve

How does /int/ and /beg/ feel about cross posting between /ic/ and /vt/? That is, for vtuber art and concepts, that kind of thing.

>>7038905
As long as it's your work and not being dragged here to shit on someone else.

>>7038905
We'll take anything, ANYTHING, as long as it's not more godawful AI spam those niggers just won't stop with the nAIgger spam every god damn day AI this and AI that

PLEASE

>>7038906
Oh, absolutely not. I'm trying to develop myself as an artist, so I wouldn't put anyone down. I might offer advice, but seeing as how I'm new at all this stuff, it may not be worth anything or even accurate.
>>7038907
Not a fan of the AI shit, myself. Both bot posting and generated art, that is.
In any case, I'm glad to hear it! I'll probably be around relatively soon, when I've got the time. I appreciate the perspective.

Another quickposes sketch

Here's a fanart i did a while ago. I was really enjoying the process and got quite happy with the base drawing.
But at some point things got off the rails and it just ended up unappealing but my stupid monkey brain can't put the pieces together.
Keeping the face simples to preserve the anime style is something I at least learned coming out of this one and have been keeping an eye on since then
Please critique and let me know what are the key points I missed here that i should work on asap
Thanks in advance

>>7038931
Where the fuck is the light source anon?

>>7038931
The end piece is very busy and there's no strong focal point. Step back from the colors for a moment, turn the picture into a grayscale and see how the lights in the background steal the focus away from the subject.

>>7038631
>The hips
Made me lol
Neither of these are correct foreshortening but this redline makes it far more jarring.

>>7038631
That clearly wasn't what he was going for. Stay on model.

>>7038976
Did you flip your canvas?

>>7038753
holy APPEAL

Painted over an old study

>>7038587
thanks for the feedback from last thread guys

I worked on a side profile view for Ozai

I think I'll go back into a front and then a 3/4 view again, I need to work on it.

>>7038994
his sister is so cute

I have the feeling that heads are going to filter me.

Is it bad practice to use a straightedge on your graphics tablet to help draw a straight line?

critiques and advice needed and very much appreciated!

>>7038587
So alongside some fundamentals I'm dipping my toes on character design, what do you anons think?

>>7038635
gmi

>>7039084
>Dipping toes
>No toes drawn
Booooooo

But yeah it looks fine for a design. What's the colour scheme though, cause that can change the look a lot?

She has no tits

>>7039097
>>7039097
If I had some good coloring tools I would give her light brown hair, black rock T-shirt bold white letters, blue jeans oh also green eyes and for the left girl, I actually based her outlook on withur from my singing monsters lol. She just has a school uniform

>>7039111
I also drew her independently

>>7039115
her legs look a bit long

>>7039127
Yeah I'm still working on my anatomy, been drawing some figures but I've been working real hard on faces, really wanna create my own characters one day or be good enough to make fan art

>>7039134
>Posts character with only one eye
>"Yeah I'm still working on my anatomy"
Oh we can tell

>>7039134
It's like she's staring into my soul...
>>7039158
I hope anon realizes you're making a light joke and doesn't take it the wrong way

>>7039163
Dw I'm not that autistic, I can still sense sarcasm and irony, lol

>>7038599

con't. will need to study these hands much closer later.

>>7038655
>>7038656
>>7038658
>>7038660

if I squint, the contours of you figure are fine, but all the details in the interior of the forms are lost and muddy. I'll recommend a short video from Kenzo / Love Life Drawing about the body. he makes a good point about viewing the body as an ant rather than slug. slugs are blobby/amorphous, where as ants have lots of different points articulation. you're missing some key surface landmarks that help your forms pop - namely the collar bones.

https://youtu.be/AYKwcnTR6zQ?t=30

>>7038994

one of the best works I've seen from you, well done

>>7039004

play with the line weight a little. the darker/thicker a line is, the more it 'comes forward' to our eyes. so you can slightly thicken the line of his jaw since it overlaps his neck and some of his hair, for example.

>>7039066

head and arm+hand holding the phone are out of proportion. flip your canvas and really look before moving onto coloring/inking for mistakes like that. I hope you are using reference

>>7039074

the good is that you have some sense of surface anatomy on the torso. I also think the hand holding syringes (?) looks good. a couple things to work on: feet. If you're have a hard time constructing them, block in some simple shapes and make a note to study from reference in the future, then keep it moving. the legs are out of proportion with the rest of the body - they should be longer from what I can see. the posing of the figure is awkward. if you tried standing like that, you'd probably strain your back or fall over. lastly, the head seems like an afterthought as it just stick straight up off the figure instead of leaning with the pose.

>>7039062

when it comes to tools, it all comes down to what the intent is. do you need a perfectly straight line for perspective or something? then use a ruler.

I changed the color

>>7038595
I use classical statues as male references.

>>7039186
Actual useful advice, thanks anon

i am great at stylized human anatomy but whenever i try to draw real human anatomy i fall head over ass and it looks like shit

what do your opinions on this slab i've been making?

>>7038728
pay more attention.

just some random poses and some figs from imagination

Thoughts on colors?

>>7039255
How this is pretty good anon, even without any shading it looks great

>>7039255
lol her thighs look deflated, that hand in the left needs some serious redo, the boobs angle/perspective is different from the torso it looks like the right tit is way lower or sliding from the ribcage

Good morning. I won’t draw today.

>>7039262
now tell me something new

>>7039255
I want to have sex with her.

What are some other quickposes like websites? Is there anything available where I can upload my own photos?

>>7039255
try higher saturation on the accent color?

>>7039174
>when it comes to tools, it all comes down to what the intent is. do you need a perfectly straight line for perspective or something? then use a ruler.
Not perspective just a part of the piece I'm copying has a section of perfectly straight hair

Today I painted Leviathan, one of the Prince of Hell. How are you guys feeling? Are you drawing? Are you happy?
>>7039255
Skin tone can be more readable, add some red and improve saturation to separate. The leg armor and skin tone is blending in.

>>7039004
Billions must burn

>>7039354
Looks like some of those old photo shoots of rock stars, I wonder why

>>7039358
I was hoping to capture the skin-on-lotion vibe. However, some people say it is gay, some say it is sexual, and only 3 people say it is scary/predatory.

>>7038877
Thanks. It felt good not to worry too much about making them "right" and just move onto the next one as soon as I had to.
A side note, before this, I never quite understood why some instructors would say that you need to focus more on your subject than your drawing. Until I had to do exactly that just to keep up. So that was a nice lesson to internalize.

>>7038877
What a crab
>>7039409
Don't listen to him, work on getting everything right first even if it takes much longer (get your proportions right, learn to simplify the face into simple forms), then work on making it consistently right and from consistency you'll naturally start to be faster, only then you start doing quick poses all while still maintaining the quality you worked your ass off to acquire at the start. Practice makes it permanent, don't repeatedly practice what you said yourself to look like shit. To start find one face and spend an entire week on it, you'll learn a lot more about a face's feature this way and learn how to simplify, don't just copy the face

>>7039424
Your vain efforts to save a beg’s art career is no match for my overwhelming crabbing mwahahahahaha

>>7039209
Wonderful

>>7039182
Very nice. Now draw his sister

>>7038838
Ah! You're right!
>>7038834
True, thank you. I do need to practice clothes more.

Can anyone help break this upper body down into boxes? i can't figure these planes out

>>7039563

>>7039563
you're looking at it perfectly on the side, you'll only see one plane of the box

>>7039571
ty!

>>7039572
I'm not sure about that? Thats how I originally sketched it out but after studying for a while it looks to me like you can see the front of the chest, tops of the shoulders, and sides of the ribs.

Its hard to tell though because of the extreme pose and rags

>>7038587
any crit on this

>>7039580
hair and ears doesnt mesh well with the style and their forms doesnt read well

this feels kinda unfinished
ideas?

>>7039580
what the FUCK are those collars?

>>7039585
>>7039354
>>7039255
Whats with all the kino today

>>7039255
>hand
Hmmmmmmmm sussy

>>7039604
it just lacked some red in the sky to complement the beak
isn't it kinda american with this palette and the huge bird?

>>7039580
the nose is so thinn but the nostrils are too big or high that it looks live the nose of burn victims or bneing shewed by pitbulls, the left ears is sqashed/tiny or something, the hair strands look more live clothes drappery

Hey guys, as a hobby drawer I draw ballpen drawings on big canvasses, and although i'm purely doing this for fun, a little voice inside of me says I should try to get better. Can you guys maybe tell me what I should try and learn to do better and do you have some useful resources for me?

>>7039614
your technique is weak
the drawing is very flat because there's poor understanding of perspective and form
there's clearly areas you just got lazy on

full illustrations are a hard thing. take a step back and try to properly render something like a skull well

Am I doing it right?

hi.
i was requested to draw a footjob. not a foot guy so it was difficult. do you guys think this rough is ok? need 2 know before i go to lineart and coloring (i got fantastic feedback on how to colour better recently from here so i thought itd be good to post again)

>>7039623
Cheers for the feedback buddy :) So basically I should take a step back by making smaller drawings where I focus more on less in order to learn myself to do perspective and forms better (because of increased repetition i presume?)

>>7039614
yooooo, this is great
I like the grand scale

>>7039625
What guide led you to this point?

>>7039653
None. I tried simplifying a nude figure into cubes and winged it from there.

>>7039614
this is great anon, you have a good sense of composition and it's a good take on the bosch vibe
rather than going back to smaller drawings, you could just use more reference and try it out before putting it in your comp, for example if you looked at some coffin pictures and sketched a couple of coffins before drawing that one at the bottom it would have come out better, and you would know how to draw good looking coffins
have you tried oil/acrylic painting?
>>7039604
THAKNS

>>7039430
Oh...
>>7039424
Well, I knew I wasn't going to get things right on the first go and that it was going to look bad. The struggle to make things "perfect" was what paralyzed me and kept me from taking the next step. Obviously I need to work on facial proportions and consistency, but I need to get that arm moving in the first place.
Anyway thanks, both of you.

>>7039659
Pick up a book and study for real

>>7039659
Do you know how to draw from observation?

>>7039625
reconsider your proportions.

>>7039666
I got that morpho simplified anatomy PDF. I just started reading it, but between what little I read last night and other random pics of sketches starting as cubes, I took a swing at it. And clearly failed. lol
>>7039674
I assume you mean freehand it? If so, I'm trying. If you mean something else, then no.
>>7039675
I'll keep it in mind for next time. Thanks.

>>7039660
>>7039649

Thanks guys, that means a lot! Funny that you mention "Bosch vibe", thats what my friends and kin have been telling me aswell. I didnt know bosch until after I finished this one, but was rather inspired by similar paintings from my early memories.

Anyway about your feedback, sounds like a good tip. I have a sketchbook somewhere, so I can definitely take up on your advice. Thank you very much.

And no, I have never tried oil/acrylic (I don't even know what either of those are), but i'm committed to using a balpen because it reminds me of having fun scribbling in the classroom while pretending to be interested in school.

>>7039687
First search result, c'mon /beg/ do better
https://drawingfundamentals.com/what-does-observational-drawing-mean-in-art/

>>7039585
Honestly, I would hang this up on my wall. Its eerie as fuck. Feels unfinished? What do you think its missing? I think its rather captivating and would think twice about muddying up the composition with more entities.

Took an anon's advice and went to the library to do some masters studies.

>>7039706
proportion

>>7039660
Honestly, I think the added red makes the overal color spectrum less cohesive. Is it reversible (computer generated?)

>>7039707
yeah you're right i made his legs too big

>>7039692
well, it's painting m8, it pairs really well with stuff that takes 30 hours to make
kinda expensive to start though, a good set of materials costs about 150 euros where i live (to all anons considering painting don't ever get the cheap stuff)
>>7039708
thanks!!!!!!!! yes it's reversible, and i have doubts too, i feel like the beak being the only red thing kinda made it stand out too much. I'll sleep over it and see what to do tomorrow morning

is proportion just either something you have or you dont? ive found i get this really weird and bad 'tunnel vision' especially on larger drawings so when i look back at the whole drawing all the proportions are fine in isolation but awful put together. am i just fucked, or is there a way to surmount that?

>>7039627
The perspective on the dude is off, he looks like he's awkwardly leaning to the right.

>>7039732
shit youre completely right LMAO thanks

>>7039730
Measure body parts either literally with a ruler or against other body parts. There's no reason to keep guessing each time.

I'm too impatient to copy things accurately. Hopefully the add meds will make me less retarded

>>7039730
this is why everybody suggests that you work general to specific and start your drawings by marking the big areas.
The two steps on how to draw an owl is literally the most important drawing tutorial in existence.

>>7038875

>>7038875
Thanks for the drawing

>>7039354
This is really nice, I like it a lot, very theatrical, reminds me of dracula the musical, I think you should definitely watch more theater if you don't already and study how they do lighting, they use tons of green lighting and to make the face the center of focus they usually use a very bright cyan over it. I made this edit to show what I meant, my execution is poor (sorry) but I hope it makes things clearer. Also, I think theatrical lighting is the closest we can get to studying how additive lighting works artistically IRL besides digital art.

I left the abdomen green because sometimes they have a supporting light beneath...

https://dramatics.org/color-and-light/

>>7039585
"Completion (of a drawing) does not depend on material representation. The work is done when that special thing has been said". - Robert Henri

So what do want to say anon?

can i share a sketch i made of samus for critic?

>>7039831
Only when you start capitalizing your sentences like a civilized being.

>>7039831
can i Share A Sketch i Made Of Samus For Critic?

>>7039833
geez...fine
May I share a sketch I made of Samus for critic?

>>7039838
Why are you asking for permission? Just post em.

>>7039840
He is an ex convict

chicken scribbles I know, can you give me any advice to make it better or generally not suck ass at art?

>>7039838
Which critic? Are you asking for a specific person?

>>7039846
1. draw bigger
2. focus on big shapes first
3. less details at your level will yield better results

>>7039854
got it, any advice on perspective?

>>7039856
yeah stop asking permission to post things.

>>7039856
for figure drawing, dont overthink it, if you can draw a cylinder in perspective you can draw a figure

>>7039862
got it thanks man, what do you think of this space marine?

>>7039846
use a 2H for sketching as you can erase it twenty times unlike a HB and draw larger, Assuming Samus is the focus of the piece I shouldn't be able to see the paper's texture on this photo

>>7039866
The paper's texture has nothing to do with anything what are you talking about

>>7039893
nta but i'm pretty sure the implication was that if you can discern the texture you're drawing too small

>>7039897
the other guy isnt me by the way, and yeah i got it

>>7039900
I'm not this guy or the third guy but I disagree with the second guy

>>7039897
Gotcha, I see what he means now, I'm dumb.

>>7039625
No

How do you learn to draw when your starting point is worse than the average 7 year olds?

I have a dumb question, Is it a bad habit to be a little bit of a perfectionist? Should I just move on to the next drawing if the drawing takes too long?

Pic related took me quite a bit of time to do trying to fix my errors as best as possible, it took me about 2 hours at least

TL;DR would I benefit more for moving on to more drawings instead of focusing on one for too long?

I have a dumb question, Is it a bad habit to be a little bit of a perfectionist? Should I just move on to the next drawing if the drawing takes too long?

Pic related took me quite a bit of time to do trying to fix my errors as best as possible, it took me about 2 hours at least

TL;DR would I benefit more for moving on to more drawings instead of focusing on one for too long? or should I just follow the "crawl before you walk"?

>>7039925
You start by thinking about drawing from time to time but never actually do it for the next few years

>>7039939
That's what I've already beeb doing but I recently bought a drawing tablet and I actually really enjoy using it, I'd just like to get better though because I'm absolutely terrible at it

>>7039925
I read Hampton's figure drawing book while copying half the diagrams, did some gesture every now and then, and tried to copy random stuff I saw on Twitter or 4chan.

I wouldn't say I'm that good after four years of plagiarism and shitposting but at least I get mogged by older children now.

fwap

>>7039604
People who aren't hopeless permabegs decided to post in this thread.

>>7039932
>perfectionist
>looks like uber /beg/

at your level just draw a lot to internalize the anime style, but use a fuck tons of ref how ever do not fall into brainless copying.
In 2 hours you could have learned the whole arm anatomy.

I found a worrying lack of Fallout 2 coom so I used it as an excuse to practice.
I call this piece, The PowerFisting (if you played it you would get the reference.)
No it is not my poorly disguised fetish.
Is the chair and 2 characters in perspective?
I fudged the colouring,

>>7039961
I didn't say I was above /beg/ at all, I just tried my best to draw something from imagination with my current understanding, which is nothing or little.

>at your level just draw a lot to internalize the anime style, but use a fuck tons of ref how ever do not fall into brainless copying.
What would you say your method to internalize it? instead of copying?

>In 2 hours you could have learned the whole arm anatomy.
But how would I remember that into long term? I'm new to anatomy learning as well, it's pretty overwhelming.

>>7039969
I hope you know that super mutants don't have dicks

>>7039984
Any loremasters know why there were no females? I know they're supposed to be a master race but it seemed like it was a massive oversight.

>>7039984
Check the Chair. To the right.

>>7039990
>arm
I think the fev was supposed to help umies survive biological warfare among other things. Either they done goofed and the bombs fell before it was finished or it mutated heavily due to time and radiation

>>7039706
what was the advice about the library? studying from the Masters in books or something?

Weird results but an attempt was made.

>>7040048
Yes! I've also gotten similar advice from classmates.

Haven't drawn since the weekend. Knocked this out waiting at work. It's kinda shit, but I leaned something. I made it look a little better with some shading and outlining.
I wish I knew how long I ended up waiting, I'd have taken my time and used more pens.

>>7039932
What part of this took 2 hours?

>>7040078
>What part of this took 2 hours?

The face, mostly the shape of the cheek and the eye placements.
But the face shape like the cheek side is always difficult for me, I can't find a way that can help me consistently get it right.

>>7039932
obsessing and trying to refine stuff is good
cranking out high reps is good

>>7040091
draw skulls

>>7039784
That's the challenge, I had to use green and vermillion, green was challenging to play with, I intended to capture the feeling of envy but I failed.

>>7040091
Something so simple should not be taking more than two hours. You need to realize when you're polishing a turd, stop, find a guide/reference, study, and then try again. Drop the tapered brush and focus on getting the head right first.
Skim this thread
>>>/ic/thread/7013965
for more helpful construction guides, find a book that's right for you (keys to drawing, right side of brain, fwap, etc), and/or find an artist you'd like to emulate.

And don't listen to Mikufag.
>>7040099

>>7039932
Anon, she doesn't have eyebrows. For the 2 hours, was it entirely zoomed in?

>>7039777
>>7039778
Thanks for making something worthwhile out of my grubby chicken scratch.

>>7038587
Anons in /i/ say your are a pussy if you don't post in this board.
I don't want to be a pussy so shit on this please.

>>7040128
Oh hey, I saved some guides from this thread.
I've been watching some of Krenz' videos, like his CSI one that uses simple shapes to construct, I'm not sure if that's good enough, but I'll look through Keys to Drawing, thanks
As for artists, I've kinda been exploring a bunch of different art styles. Is it better to just stick to one artist and stick to their style to be more consistent?

Also by studying, do you mean by just copying it?

>>7040130
For the most part yes, is that a bad habit?

>>7040101
Alright, I will try

>>7040135
you're a good artist anon <3`

>>7040136
>As for artists, I've kinda been exploring a bunch of different art styles. Is it better to just stick to one artist and stick to their style to be more consistent?
You can mix and match whatever you find your favorite artists draw best, you dont have to stick to one. Like study the way artist A draws lips and artist B draws eyes.
>by studying, do you mean by just copying it?
Yeah. Then apply what you've learned. You can take it a step further and measure shit or break down into simpler shapes, whatever helps you internalize.

>>7040139
I got happy even if I know it's not true. That means I'm a pussy.

>>7039984
what evidence of that. in video games no one have dicks. sterile do not mean dickless. in my game they have.

>>7040135
Anons from /i/ are scared of being told they have room to improve.
Your anatomy needs some work and your linework is too busy and inconsistent. Which line is the face of the lower facing side of that hammer?
Find a way to differentiate foreground and background characters, like how manga artists give their characters a white outline/glow, or how characters in the foreground tend to have a darker line weight. I cant tell if that thing behind priestgirl's left shoulder is a part of her or the dude behind her.
Your character design is good.

>>7040136
>For the most part yes, is that a bad habit?
Yeah, you will just be focusing on small stuff that no one is going to notice, while missing the whole picture.

i have a wacom tablet used to play osu before, should i start learning using it or its better to get a pencil and paper

>>7040253
Ah, it wasn't that bad. You kind of confirmed most of the things I didn't like about the drawing and my works in general. I didn't know the lines were that bad though. Now I have to do something about it.
Thanks.
Those aren't my characters btw. I have to work on that too.

>>7039977
>What would you say your method to internalize it? instead of copying?
draw as many drawings as you can using refs but when you are drawing try to see the pictures as 3D piece, once you have the hang of it go for a more detailed version, repeat this until it's very close to the refs, once you are good at this understanding the forms underneath of anime styles is going to be easier way easier, at this point all it is left is polishing your style. IE 1 part is just the very basic then it goes more detailed on part 2 and 3 and 4 are just understanding the planes of the face of this ref.
having a basic understanding of the human anatomy would makes some parts very easy to understand like the socokets, nose bridge, cheekbones, jaw forms which then you have to stilyze but you need a very basic knowledge tho.

>>7040284
if you are planing to go digital then just fucking start using the tablet, is not like you are learning to use a pencil for the first time.

>>7040284
use most whatever you plan to be using the most

>>7040299
>is not like you are learning to use a pencil for the first time.
will gen beta even learn to write with pencil anymore

Tried out gouache today first time giving it a real shakedown and boy that was rough, went with a limited palette called like secondary or something. I could NOT for the life of me get this greenish yellow in the apple and most colors were just off.

Spent a lot of time just trying to get a good enough yellow greenish color and gave up at the end but what I've gathered is maybe I should practice just picking a color from something and trying to color match it instead of just straight jumping into a piece.

>>7040318
Apple! That's great. However, I will very much like to see the shadows cast by the apple.

>>7040320
Sorry apple king, couldnt be bothered with that after struggling so much just to get baby puke green instead of what I was going for... Next time I will get the apple kings approval with cast shadows !!!!

>>7039585
The only thing that feels off to me is how the niggas in the front have very visible outlines, while nothing else does.

But don't get me wrong, this is still one of the best things I've ever seen on this board.

>>7039102
This shadow is breaking my brain, is her torso just shaped like that or is it partially obscured by a pitch black shadow?

Aside from that it's cool though, pants looking good

Is there an easier way to draw torso? I specifically have trouble making them too long and I'm trying to phase it out.

>>7039627
if it were me I wouldn't draw the claws on the penis, that might hurt. a little

>>7040365
Yes, with reference and proportion measuring

if a line is straight for too long i feel like i'm doing something wrong

>>7040325
Hehe, apples are lovely. Remember when painting with gouache, it is always shadow before light, which means if you don't want to have muddy colors, during the filling-in process of the shadows, you have to shape out the spots of highlight, leaving some space with a thin layer of shadows for the impression of light. Wait for the paint to fully dry and then add in the highlights. Take into consideration that your pigment may be lifted to the surface, you will have to counterbalance that color by pre-mixing your white pigment with the colors you want, for example, a tint of green. Wait for that layer to dry and then add in pure white. That way it gives the illusion of ambient occlusion. How thick of a layer of paint is up to your style and preference. Good luck!

>>7040363
NTA but it's the inside of the jacket, probably shading it following the jacket's contour would make it more readable >>7039102

Day 2 of getting back into drawing

>>7039115
That guitar case would fall right off her shoulder like that. The skirt is super cute though
>>7039255
The hair is gorgeous but there are some issues. Her right hand needs completely redone and her left hand's index finger looks very silly and out of perspective. Also what's going on in this triangle? It's her shoulder, so it should be the color of her sleeves, not her skintone. Also, from the perspective on her other shoulder, we should be seeing the sleeve puff over the top of her left hand. Also seconding the other anon's critiques on her breasts. It has a lot of appeal though
>>7038976
Come on anon, you know breasts don't attach that high up..
>>7039585
This is so fucking sexy anon. Excellent

>>7040381
Lot of that going over my head but ill try to keep it in mind, i started off just laying the "general" color of areas in almost a watercolor wash. got those colors squinting and then tried to build up from there basically

>>7040440
When you say the right hand needs to be completely redone could you at least be specific what wrong with it? It’s unnatural? Fingers are fucked? It is way too flexed on the wrist? Because honest I can’t see anything fatal with it at quick glance. I will see what can I do on the rest but I seriously need a redline on the right hand.

>>7039932
keep trying anon

>>7040485

>>7040128
>polishing a turd
it's a line drawing, retard.
polishing a turn is trying to render your way out of a bad drawing, not trying to figure out the correct way to draw something.

>>7040369
Like this?

>>7040532
Meant for >>7040371

>>7040520
>floating head and now floating hands

you niggas are killing me

>>7040526
He knows what I mean. Two hours trying to get a single line right on an already bad drawing is in a way the same metaphor.

>>7040537
nigga, anon just wanted to draw a head, i aint gonna draw a whole body for them. No need to crit whats not there, u gotta let anon take baby steps into

>>7040544
look at the top of his head
https://youtu.be/9gyxzFPzcO0?feature=shared&t=9

How are these forms?

>>7040563
nah

>>7040540
Yes, it was clear what you meant, that's why I am again informing you that you're retarded. Figuring out how to fix drawing mistakes at the drawing stage is good and the polar opposite of turd polishing.

I just started sketching a falconer elf
the bird is killing me

>>7040586
My original advice still coincides with what you're saying. You're just being pedantic and combative over a figure of speech.

>>7040603
Holy shit. You're too good to post here

Is there anything that looks weird or I can improve in general

January is over. This everything I did. See you next month.

>>7040603
>>7040612
Nah look at her hand and that derpy eagle.
Her leg connection is also weird
mouth is too low too

>>7040621
it's a falconer glove
show me where the legs are weird

>>7040615
You draw some pretty looking dude, fag

Unironically envy your skill level

>>7040628
you're telling me that these parrallel bricks with no arch curve to them is a proper hand in a glove? Aint no way

>>7040633
hope this isn't the seanig from asg otherwise I know I'll be trolling
But do you have any idea how thick these gloves are so they don't get punctured?

>>7040637
It's nor the thickness. the form and the gesture of the fist (the arcing of the knucklers and the bottom of the fingers) is not at all correct. The left part of the crotch line looks weird, especially comparing it to the shape of the bikini

Smalleish doodle for tonight.
I REALLY need to learn how to show volume on clothes, aside from fundies and everything else.
>>7040603
People who draw breasts heavy and sagging will go to Heaven.

>>7040615
Blog?

>>7039255
GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>7039957
Goddamn those are some clean fucking lines on the clothes.

>>7040297
Blog?

>>7040643
I'll be honest with you, the way you put the words didn't give me any idea how to fix it, this here is the sketch I was working on a few seconds ago, feel free to show me how to fix it using lines

>>7040666
hehe balls

>>7040666
lights off then get a candle for an easier light to draw

Today's study using Lemoyne and Taco. I couldn't get the ring finger nail to match the others, but I'm pretty happy with the results.

Step 3: collection of hands worth knowing
Step 4: draw

>>7040603
make her wear the eagle mating pancake hat

>>7040615
I like your draftsmanship, I would love to see more color next month anon.


>>7040666
I can feel the balls anon

>>7040122
oh well that changes everything, but this got me thinking I don't know how would jealousy would look like... your gesture points towards narcissism at least to me.

>>7040077
nice

>>7040679
pointing finger looks swollen at the start and mush at the end. otherwise looks good

>>7040692
I'm the model... T^T

>>7040700
See a doctor

>>7040706
>>7040687
>>7040670
Every time I feel bad about drawing I give thanks to god I at least am not you.

Help me bros before I start rendering.

>>7040723
because you cannot hide your power level?

are tracing reps viable?

>>7040728
Her skin is the wrong color

>>7040735
I would say only trace when you get stuck on copying. If you're really just struggling to understand the lines, trace them, study why they're different to yours, erase them, draw them again

>>7040735
tracing is useless bro

>>7040730
>hide your power level
Post UR best ones bitch!

>>7040661
id change it more like this

>>7039990
There are, it's just that the mutation makes them look exactly the same. Lily and Tabatha in Fnv are female

Hey /int/ & /beg/, I am just getting into all this art stuff, but I went ahead and made an OC anyways. At this point, this is the 4th piece I've completed, and by far the best. Though, I know it is not that good, but it was what I was capable of. At the time, I had not really practiced anything at all, I was just going off of what little I could learn in an afternoon or so of watching basic YouTube video tutorials that explained some basic concepts. I have since done some more practicing, mostly with basic forms and a little bit of perspective. I just kind of stumbled upon /ic/ recently, and subsequently the guide in the OP, which I intend to follow more closely. The curriculum seems a bit better than what I had plotted out for myself. Anyway, if you did, thanks for taking the time to read all that. I appreciate it. If anyone has any advice in any regard, I'll happily consider it.

>>7040752
well i dunno if it counts as best since >>7039071
but here was this recent one practicing rendering
im gonna have to do more full bodied studies again

>>7040765
nice work, anon

>>7040754
I will apply your suggestion
I'll just get some sleep and fix it when I wake up

>>7040776
Thanks! I worked hard, but I had fun doing it.

>>7040793
nigga draw where the upper arm is why are you coloring it now
i remember you doing a much better Kluri drawing before, did you forget how to draw?

>>7040797
I'll fix it tomorrow
I'm very sleepy now

>>7040765
Hello K******e, fancy seeing you here.

finished this today
any advice/crits?
i feel like all my stuff comes out boring/basic looking

>>7040667
heh
>>7040675
The light's harsh when I take a picture, but fine in person. I'll come up with a way to diffuse it next time though.
>>7040679
Thanks?

>>7040829
I'm mega /beg/ so I might be wrong, but her torso feels very long

ff

what are some practices I can do digitally to learn how to draw?

>>7040834
The same ones you'd do traditionally.

>>7040826
Hey, anon! You too. Hope you're having a good day and that your art is progressing well.

>>7040836
I don't even know the traditional ones, I'm ground 0 level beginner.

>>7040842
Did you look at the links in the OP of this thread?

>>7040842
I think you ought to read the guide in the OP, anon. I personally started with drawing intentional, continuous, and somewhat quick lines from one side of the page to the other.

>>7040845
ah, I always ignore op's. I'll check em out.
>>7040847
I did follow the old box/perspective method a decade ago, but nothing came from it.

>>7040855
What I >>7040847 was saying was much more basic than that. I'm talking just lines in C, S, and I shapes that are roughly the same length. The idea is to build control and line confidence. Pretty much everything builds off of this and it's important to break any bad habits early. Once you can do that reasonably well, I'd start tracing stuff with the same kinds of lines.

>>7040842
main tasks towards learning to draw:

1. perfect construction of the human figure in all poses, from imagination
2. rules of linear perspective.

In those 2 goals, all fundies are encapsulated, at least for line drawing. Proportion, form, perspective, anatomy, gesture, etc.

Worry about that first, then you can start worrying about value and color for painting

>>7040871
>learn to draw an anatomically perfect figure from imagination in any pose and any perspective only then and only then are you allowed to pick up a coloured pencil

This is what is called a /beg/ trap.

damn nigga i must be insufferable to get ignored that bad

>>7040878
Instead of being a vague faggot, tell us which post is yours

>>7040831
This is cool. I like how well you did the metal texture.

>>7040859
I might already have the basics of that as well, I spent the better part of a few months working on all kinds of lines and squiggles in my teenage years.
>>7040871
anatomy is far far away from what I'm capable of learning atm.

>>7040686
Thank you

how does one draw long gentle sloping lines?

I can't do it no matter how hard I try. It's getting frustrating enough to make me want to throw the stylus across the room

Guidelines sound and feel like fake bullshit
>duhhhh draw a circle
>then uhhhhh just draw over it

>>7040902
To clarify I am trying to draw this pic

I am left handed and I can freaking draw a somewhat smooth long curve on the right side

but no matter how hard I try to draw the left side it's shaky and jagged

>>7040917
stabilizer, zoom out, rotate, use a vector line and tweak it

>>7040917
Ugly ass troon netflix castlevania trash arstyle.

>>7040926
it's making me want to just use the curved line tool to do that one curve to be honest

is that a bad habit?

>>7040931
the feeling of the line tool lines is a bit different, kind of sterile, if you use it just be aware
honestly the real answer is that if the deviations are small enough people won't even notice, try leaving that line as-is and finishing the piece and see if you're actually aware of it at first glance.

>>7040829

>>7040917
your line quality is very strangely uniform. If you hadn't said anything I'd have thought you were already using the line tool. try to loosen up a bit and also you must be drawing very small because i can see the anti aliasing on your lines

>>7039585
I'd make the lower white planes into a different colour honestly, swallows up that one guys halo too much.

>>7040963
I really appreciate this so much thank you anon

Originally I had heavily referenced from animu sketch.
I need to practive anatomy and clothes dynamics. I really like how you readjusted the compisition, the background was very last minute so it wasnt just another white void.

>>7040967
I'm actually not using the antialiasing tool, I just shrunk the image down before I uploaded.

The two straight lines next to the head I did use a ruler for, but other stuff I did not.

>>7040986
I suspect you are drawing too slow. Are you on a tablet or using mouse? As you can see in the original picture the line weight is varying like the end of the thin ends of the eyelash compared to the base at the eye or the neck. Just using one line of equal thickness for everything will give a very stiff look most of the time. Very digital on/off kind of feel to your lines. Personally I wouldn't be afraid to break up my lines or use multiple lines. For line weight you can go over things with the same brush multiple times or increase/decrease the size.

>>7040991
I turned off pressure sensitivity because I asked for advice here and someone said to try with it off because it'd be another thing to learn as I wanted to focus on drawing smooth lines.

I'm on a Tablet, a pretty big one. Should I turn the pressure sensitivity on or just try as you said and go over lines multiple times?

>>7041002
just go over it multiple times and cut into it with the eraser to get sharp edges.

Fucking circles fucking suck I hate circles fuck

>>7040135
Blog anon? Very soulful.

>>7040917
Why are you jumping straight into line art. Your proportions are gonna look like shit. Learn to draw the shape of the head and the proportions of the face first.

Complete beg, currently enjoying trying to learn how to just paint stuff with textures and shit

>>7040909
Retard

Today's study.

new

>>7041231
>>7041231

>>7041231
>>7041231

NEW THREAD
>>7041234
>>7041234
>>7041234

>>7041235
I'll use this one because less shit stirring.

>>7038825
thats cool.I like the concept just need the skills now

>>7041119
I drew the pic of Firelord Ozai earlier this thread, I have been using the Loomis method for proportions. However this time I based the proportions off of the Castlevania Carmilla pic and they seem a bit more stylized than the typical thirds of Loomis.

>>7040611
Actually I'm combative over being called mikufag; no jury would hold me responsible for choking the life out of you.

And I didn't agree with the original advice. Troubleshooting your own drawings is basically Job One for a self teacher. And if he can see a specific part that he thinks is off, then he's at the level to sweat it out for a bit and try to fix it and it'll be productive practice.
Nobody should feel obligated to fuck off and do something else when he sees a specific thing he wants to try or fix in a drawing.

>>7038834
>>7038838
>>7038831
Applied the critique I got here + the red line thread on my piece.
It's been a while since I've done any serious study, so I should probably get to that next ;v;

>>7040831
love the highlights
love the grass
keep it up you're better than i

>>7039174
Thanks for the advice! went and tried to go for feet though I don't think I fully got it yet. Advice and critique welcome and very much appreciated!