/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

thanks! can you improve this

>>7034668
Here you go anon. My advice for you is to rethink your artistic direction. You will soon lose your soul if you continue drawing beastiality.

>>7034668
This can't be improved.

>>7034712
ah i wanted to do this one.. out-flanked

halp...

>>7034652
>When they needed him most, he returned

>>7034712
i kneeel

>>7034712
thanks to you, i was able to upgrade my art

just finished this guy, wat do

>>7035238
the hand's angle is slightly off and it kinda throws off the gesture

>>7035276
You would only be able to see the index and the ring finger, the perspective is what's wrong

>>7035285
The middle finger, my bad. You get what I mean just do the pose

I struggled here for a while and leaved it like this. I would like some help to see how it had to be done for it to be well done.

>>7035285
damn that's embarassing lel
pretty much same shape but like this anon said

>>7034971
Give her more life! What’s the story moment??? Push the pose!!!

>>7034955
Early bird gets the worm!

>>7035238
There are no excuses for boring poses!!!

>>7035182
AMAZING!!!

>>7035296
Mostly, you just need to be working on technical skills like figure drawing fundamentals. If you haven’t seen it yet, I recommend you check out the David Finch roadmap to drawing. It’s on his website under ‘blogs’

Please help

>>7036170
Your picture has so much charm and style I had a hard time preserving what was good about it in my redline. I think, the only thing of worth in my drawing is the sense of form. I made sure that each article of clothing ‘wrapped’ around the solid form of the body, using ellipses in my construction to aid the sense of perspective. I think, if you just keep finding the artists you love and keep copying their work, using construction of course, you will eventually sort that out. The technical side of drawing is very straightfoward. Just make sure you don’t lose your soul in the process.

>>7035182
wtf, why is the pink panther fucking asuka in Evangelion???

Correct this

>>7034652
Okay my turn :>

>>7036261
Maybe something like this would be better?

>>7036269
Y-you drew that?

>>7036303
>Y-you drew that?
no unless you believe he's https://hluoart.com/illustrations who worked for pixar
don't be so gullible

>>7036303
>>7036183
>>7036136
>>7036120
i remember you redlining a few months back, you improved tremendously

>>7036307
>gullible
I just choose to have faith in anons here. I’m sure he’s not lying that he drew that ;)

>>7036310
>I’m sure he’s not lying that he drew that ;)
yes and he posted it in 663x371, worse resolution than you can find on the internet

>>7036309
Thank you, that means so much to me actually. I was just scrolling through my ipad photos and cringing at all my old art

Still feel beg after 2 years. Please help, anon, sir.

>>7036313
Were you the guy that made the Bridgman study threads and drew through Bridgman twice? You did just one pass purely copying and then another pass purely memory, right? I’ve been doing Bridgman by doing a copy and then a memory drawing and repeating it until I’m happy with the memory version, one drawing at a time. I’m not sure if that’s the best bang for the buck compared to a pure copying pass and a pure memory pass. If you’re the same anon, got any advice on that? Since you did Bridgman and then whatever you did to git so much gudder since then, like >>7036309 said, I was wondering if you could give some advice on studying. Thanks senpai

>>7036170
>soul
>sexy gesture
>>7036183
>stiff upright pose but clothes go whoosh

I hate you niggers so much it's unreal

>>7036346
You're a retard, it's ok

>>7036120
>There are no excuses for boring poses!!!
There's also no excuses for broken poses.
You aren't good enough to pull off this kind of perspective, sorry anon.

>>7036351
No, he's right. This redliner is completely chaning what OPs tried to convey. These redlines are useless.

>>7036120
Why are you thrusting the foot in my face? There is no reason for this. I don't care about an ordinary limb so why is it taking all the focus in the composition? Don't just do things

Dont draw thing like you want, draw thing like I want:the thread. Seriously whats the point of these red lining fag circle jerking threads? I leave for x months and this place is still the same crab infested shit hole it was when I left.

You people are pathetic. In b4 PYW, no I wont just share my hard earned art gains with the likes of you.

>>7036315
not OP but it's a gesture issue mainly, if you were going for the tough guy pushing through the hardships of war
My drawings could def be improved upon tho

>>7036387
There's your way of doing things, and there's the objectively right way of doing things. Everyone who comes here posts after concluding that their way is flawed and want the latter. But seethe and mald like a child if you must

>>7036359
>>7036377
>>7036346
tbdesu if you ask for redlines you should tell the redliner what you'd like to change and what you want to keep

example: i like the stiffness of this pose and angle but i feel like anatomy and proportions are off

Guy throwing papers at someone on the ground, while holding a baby etc

I think i fucked up the shoulders, perspective might be off

>>7036377
>>7036359
>>7036355
>>7036346
red line it or shut the fuck up

>>7036411
forearms are a bit long, and pectoral muscles should be attached near the top of the humerus, so they would have a stretched out look in this position.
Keeping the hand/forearm rotated like that I feel the shoulder would rotate forward. Do his pose and feel your muscles.

>>7036315
Find a picture by an artist you want to be as good as
Copy it
It will be shit. That's ok
Copy it again
Find some aspect that annoys you (your inability to copy the face/hand/etc) and hyperfocus on that, fill 15 sketchbook pages with attempts and practice for all I care
If you run into a wall with this pic a second and switch to that, too much focus on one target causes that target to basically become impossible to understand, like when you say a word over and over again and it decodes into random noise and sounds stupid

>>7036136
Thanks anon
>If you haven’t seen it yet
I haven't, but I checked it out and needed some books. So I'll check other stuff.

>>7034668
The pink panter fucks Asuka, wtf?????

>>7036346
Specificy what you want or fuck off

>>7036390
good redline anon

>>7036183
Thank you! I, too, hope I don’t lose my passion

>>7036460
thanks, very useful!!!!
i'm wipping this rn

>>7036390
Thank you, anon. I need to practice gestures much more in that case.

Aight fix my shit 4 free, thnx

>>7036261
Tightrope walkers place their toes first, or sometimes the whole foot at once. Never heel first.

>>7036811
np
try just spending more time on the sketch and making more thumbnails, it helped me a lot

>>7036836
i feel like it lacks a clear source of the light shining behind the charactrers. A reddish or even greenish gradient from the bottom to the top would make it pop more
basically airbrush a bunch of colors on it

>>7037001
example (done in 2 mins with mouse)

>>7034668
btw i drew this in 2018

>>7037004
You were a pro in 2018.

>>7037002
lol and it certainly looks like it

>>7036303
yes but i thought you were supposed to keep images below 1000 pixels >:C
>>7036307
>he
im not a dude hehe

>>7037061
niggerfaggot, explain what you mean

ok i mean, i can see it my redline is cheesy as fuck, but i mean wasn't the original drawing cheesy as fuck too???

>>7037186
>painted with a mouse in 2 minutes
Yeah, I can tell. It looks like shit

correct this

>>7037251
No

>>7036429
that baby is gonna fall and crack his head

>>7037285

>>7037194
are you retarded

>>7034652
blog?

>>7036346
pyw or fuck off

>>7037073
post a wip / your drawing software interface with all the layers

>>7036269
yo can you redline this >>7034668
>>7037018
true and valid, i miss those days

I have a feeling that the face looks a bit wonky from this angle and the breasts might be asymmetrical. Are my fears correct?

>>7037251
Why do you want someone to correct that? That's great.

>>7037724
lol nah, the other guy is retarded

>>7036429
You draw well, anon, but if this is for a comic or storyboard, you could try to think of a more interesting camera angle.

>>7038213
I would recommend simply more figure drawing and master copies at this stage, for you. The muscles are unnaturally balloony, and doing more observational drawing will help you get a more natural sense of shape

>>7038454
I see... I just thought i'd be up to scratch

>>7038213
Duplicating the eye closest to the viewer and flipping it then making it smaller is not how eyes work

>>7038519
I understand, the curve of the eyeball would hide the lashes

>>7038514
we artists study for the rest of our lives, anon. don't be too down

I was pretty happy with this, but improvement is always good.

>>7034652
these threads without fail are low /int/s farming (Yous) from /begs/ and impressing them with landmarks and excessive mark making

OP can you redline this anon's pic>>7038846

>>7038850
fine and then ill redline his dogshit redline so you can see the difference between a clout chaser and someone who knows how to draw

>>7038851
sure give it a shot
more drawings in this thread the better

would really appreciate it someone could help me fix her neck and Jaw or the head position in general

>>7038846
Maybe. A pro might lift a beg right up to the roof to see the view, but an int helping an anon up the next step or two of the ladder is ok too.

>>7034668
Lost hard

>>7038842
The structure is not quite right underneath. When doing studies, spend a bit more time looking at proportions and measurements more carefully. Proportions are just one of those never ending problems artists have to deal with. My own work is still filled with proportion errors, it just gets less and less over time. I did too many quick gestures in the beginning, and not enough long studies, so my proportions were worse than most artists until very recently

>>7039334
Your work is great, I don’t want to redline it lol. Someone else can do it, if they have the confidence to. Theonly thing I will say, is that the hand seems a bit too small compared to hte arm, and her left arm is a bit small overall

>>7040539
Thank you!
And yeah, I mostly do gesture ;v;)

Is anything weird or is there anything I can do to get better in general

Is there anything weird or that I can improve in general

>>7040575
no problem!

>>7040619
you're amazing anon, nothing to correct

>>7040622
Ack thank you!

>>7038846
cringe no draw crabbing faggyfuck
pyw

What should I work on, and what can I improve?

Help me out brother.

>>7039334
Personally I would do something more like this. Gives a bit more 3D structure around the chin/jaw

>>7041003
Bro, the original is way better than your redline, you're gonna impede someone's progress with that. Please stop.

>>7036315
I think the way you colour/render also has a big impact, I see you’re way too reliant on special brushes which isn’t good if you’re starting out.
That one random red building demands way too much attention, are you trying to get me to look at the gun or the buildiny?

>>7040827
Her body feels disjointed, specially her hips feel disconnected from her torso

>>7040619
Dragon Flat Zeta

>>7041013
retard

Someone told me the head looks too big, and I can kind of see it, but I'd greatly appreciate a more detailed and thorough analysis. Thanks in advance.

>>7038438
Here's one I did for Inktober last year. Feedback I got at the time was to work on the anatomy and making the pose more dynamic (but didn't get anything more specific). Any takers on how I could push the pose or where to improve the anatomy?

correct this

>>7045507
Pick a better image to trace

>>7045511
traced??? Don't make me laugh, I knew some crab would say something like that.

>>7045511
I also trace this, according to you, right??? ignorant

>>7045507
>>7045514
I’m not that Anon and I don’t necessarily think you traced, but the unappealing face and lack of detail in her hair does give that impression.

>>7045519
It was a /h request, people ask for these kinds of things, I don't even know what the characters' names are

>>7045515
I look at this and all I can think is "penile fracture"

>>7040664
Hi anon, this is an extremely charming drawing. I love Braum and this is making me want to pick up league again.

The only thing I have to point out is the foreshortening, I think you went a bit too severe with it. It almost looks like the lower body is separated from the upper body

>>7040827
I think you did a great job with this one, the proportions are all good and the pose is interesting. I was watching a lecture by an animator today, and I learned something that really blew my mind, but in retrospect was really obvious. The reason why you use CSI lines is so that you preserve the energy of the gesture in the final drawing. When you clean up a sketch, things always get stiffer, and the way to combat that is to push simple shape dynamics further. This concept applies no matter how realistic you’re drawing. If you look at Rubens or Michelangelo drawings, they’re fully of life and movement, despite being very finished. I think, working with this in mind, could be a useful thing for you to think about.

That, plus all the usual stuff of making master copies, being mindful about proportions and form, and overall fundies. Good work, anon

>>7045655
>>7045671
redline anon, I'm not either of those two but wanted to let you know you're corrections/suggestions singlehandly carry this thread lol thank you

>>7042732
Good composition, anon. Head seems fine, but I would spend some time studying the facial features and the way shadows fall on someone’s face. I learned how to do this by copying Mike Mignola, doing exact copies, then putting away the reference and redrawing it from memory. Shadow shapes can be memorized and applied like anything else in your visual library.

Pick your favorite artists to study. Our tastes will differ, so you may not agree with everything I did in this redline (which is fine!)

>>7045673
Thanks bro <3

>>7045491
There are of course dozens of compositions you could choose based on the story point, but a basic trick is to use foreshortening, and to make objects go back in space. Your composition is quite flat, everything is seen from the side, and that’s okay if that’s the effect you’re going for, but things could be more dynamic, like you said.

For anatomy, the problem isn’t really anatomy, but being able to draw something accurately, aka proportions and observation. Do more figure drawings, each 20-30 minutes. Measure carefully and correct your mistakes. Do master copies in the same way. You’ll improve very quickly if you focus on drawing accurately.

>>7045693
Excellent! Appreciate the feedback and advice

>>7045507
I think you get caught up too much in the detail and forget the basic forms and shape. As a result, you have too many lines in the wrong places, and something sexy is lost.

>>7045701
No problem!

>>7045704
ok thanks, here other

>>7045704
>>7036332
Anon pls

>>7045714
sorry for missing your post. I did go through Bridgman twice, the way Finch recommended, but I didn't post it on /ic/. That was back in February of 2022, and I did it all in one month. I think, because i crammed it all, I didn't get that much out of it at the time, but as I kept drawing, the Bridgman information started spewing out from the back of my mind, influencing every figure I did afterwards. If you look at this one >>7045693 I feel like the girl has so much Bridgman-ness to it, along with all my other figures, and it's amazing I can still remember those patterns even after 2 years. It just keeps stewing in your subconscious and continually improving your art, even if you never touch Bridgman again.

I did all the copies in a week, then all the memory drawings in the following 3 weeks, separately. I think this way is more difficult, but you get more out of it, because if you try to do a memory drawing of it without drawing it beforehand, you're forcing yourself to draw it in your head over and over and really grind it into your neurons.

As for overall study advice, I still don't know the best way to study. There are 2 competing systems for study in my head atm, the David Finch study stream way, and the Rad Sechrist project city way. The way Rad recommends you draw is by drawing the same reference image 100-200 times, continually copying it, dragging your drawing over the reference, noticing where you're off, then redrawing it, trying to correct your mistakes. I've done this type of thing now on and off for the last few months, and I feel like my art got 100x better just because of it. I highly recommend you sign up for one month of project city, just to get to that one video, titled the "head shapes" lecture, and watch it. It might change your life. Ethan Becker also has a video on it, but it's not as good.

>>7045740
Hm. I see, thanks senpai. Never heard of the Sechrest thing before. What I’ve been doing is kind of a weird version of Jason Brubaker’s “cognitive drawing” idea. He talks about it here:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S9Cx4pIjSvA

I think there’s definitely something to the lag time between when you do the copy and then when you do the drawing from memory: forcing that retrieval to come from “deeper storage” tells your brain it’s more important to hang on to. But the test and feedback thing like Brubaker and apparently Sechrest talk about is a huge deal too.

Maybe it would be best to do a separate copy pass, then do the separate memory pass and somehow combine it with the “comparison test” feedback mechanism that Sechrest and Brubaker use. That’ll be a shitload of work though lol

Also
>drew through bridgman twice in a month
Gawd damn, son. Well, it obviously worked. That girl’s arms in particular are the spitting image of Bridgman’s drawings. Again, thank you very much for the wisdom, anon. I really appreciate you taking the time to effortpost.

>>7045778
>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S9Cx4pIjSvA
holy shit, this is great. I was always put off by the branding of his "system" but this is exactly the same thing Finch and Sechrist talks about. Drawing really is all about shapes and memory of shapes

>>7040619
It's you! You actually helped me with clothing, something I've been struggling with for a while.
I liked your sharp lines, and I wanted to see how it would look with my style
The design obviously isn't similar, but your line work and shadows helped me alot, thank you anon

I tried to make the belly a bit chubby, but not too much.

Need help with Jonee boy. I feel like I messed up his legs.

>>7045655
Thanks for feedback anon. I hope you'll enjoy league, if you pick it up again.

>>7045671
Based, thank you! Good work to yourself as well, keep it up.

>>7034652
Please.

Something about this feels off... esp in the lower torso. I wanted to fix it before I start cleaning up the lines.

>>7045951
Put some clothes on her!

>>7046886
Thanks. The reason i quit is because i lost 30 games in a row and my teammates told me to uninstall the game. Traumatic experience

>>7047034
<3

>>7047495
thanks but she's allergic to clothes

>>7045708
This one was difficult.

>>7047500
She needs to see a doctor, asap

>>7045979
Try to use shapes that are simple as possible. Go so far as to draw only with straight lines. When doing your studies, do the same thing, make them with only straight lines, rectangles, trapezoids, etc. It’ll help you capture proportion more accurately, and that’ll transfer over into your imaginative work. Simple shapes, accurate observation, and memory of those simple shapes is what makes up most of the important stuff in drawing

>>7047120
This is nice, anon. Just by working more, you’ll eventually gain more control over your lines and proportions, and all the problems you’re facing now will solve themselves.

If you aren’t already, I also recommend a regular diet of master copies. Doing master copies, alongside drawing from life, will give you a multiplier effect, in terms of gains, because master copies teach you design in a way that drawing from life can’t.

I also think you should regularly do memory drawings, where after you copy a reference, you put away the reference and redraw it immediately, from memory. That’ll help enforce the shape language of human anatomy really well.

>>7047468
Definitely, pay more attention to proportions. For your studies, do very long poses, at least 30 minutes per figure. Use the measuring techniques Loomis lays out in “figure drawing for all it’s worth”. Do long studies from anatomy books too. You just need to train your eye as to what correct and incorrect shape is, at this moment

>>7047562
Thanks! I try to do figure studies every day, but, alas, I am still a beginner... I will pick up Loomis-san's tome though...

>>7047565
No problem! And don’t fret, drawing takes a while to learn. I found the ones who improve the quickest are always the one who focused on accurately observing things from the outset. Observation isn’t mutually exclusive to 3d construction, by the way. They work in tandem.(I feel like I have to say that over and over again because people think they’re mutually exclusive)

which masters did you copy redliner kun

hello friend can you fix my drawing

Shit art from a shit artist

>>7048024
subhuman

Shit art by a shitty artist

Take 2

>>7048026
Sorry, it did let me post the image

Another piece if you can fix

>>7047525
Thanks. I think I should just do more studies and get back to it since it's still not really the exact pose I was thinking of.

Hellow Anon, can you give me a feedback? My main problem, I think, is that when I draw face features, they come out dead, without any emotion. I think part of the problem is that I rely on drawing structure to much, and forget about gesture, if that's make sence. And I can't yet draw more loose, but still structurally sound faces.

>>7047515
bro I got ur replies mixed up that was a bad look lmfao

>>7048403
proportion, nose's angle is off, missing forms on the eyebrow bone and cheekbone, but mostly proportion

this looks so boring and bland but i dont see anything particularly wrong with it, why does it look like day 1 beg work?

>>7048584
Im no artist, but you can only achieve a certain level of art with such a simple design I'd say.

>>7048584
if you're not shading you'll need at least to have good linework

>>7048604
what would you change about it?

redliner here. i didn't draw all day today. (I'm a lazy fuck) im going to bed too, so i won't get to your work today. if someone else wants to redline, they can. If nobody does, I'll draw tomorrow. oyasuminasai

>>7047643
copy who you love. The first person I became obsessed with was Kamome Shirahama. Then, I heavily copied Takeshi Obata and Tsukasa Hojo, and then some Kim Jung Gi. Recently, I've been studying feet from the TACO anatomy books, which are amazing and i recommend for everyone.

>>7041757
Your redline is retarded, don't be offended by the truth.

>>7041003
You fucked up the anatomy of the neck even further. It was necessary to fix the broken line in between the chin and the angle of the jaw in order to make it clear that the jaw was in front of the neck, which you did, but I would have left it at that if I were you.

i feel like this has something that's off in the volumes but can't tell what specifically (i know anatomy is fucked but muh style)

anyways what's with this bunch of niggers shitting on OP? Are these bots?

>>7041003
>>7039334

I have not drawn her hat yet

>>7049727
needs more ass and hips
(not a meme)

Can you redline this?

>>7049729
Feels kinda off now

>>7049668
Fucked up the face even further.

>>7049727
is it mariel drawing this? its cute

>>7049746
I sincerely do not know what or who that is but it's a drawing of Chen from touhou.

>>7049668
I actually disagree, main problem was the jaw and the neck really. There was also things I disagreed with with the torso being too longs as well as the hands/arms

>>7049740

>>7049754
i think its better how it was before, it makes her seem young. (not the same anon)

>>7049760
so you're a loli fag eh

>>7049754
It's certainly a lot more detailed. I didn't really do much detail on the body because it was mostly to help me visualize the clothing and to help with the folds on the fabric later. I see the critique on the legs and hips and I can work on that. Thank you

>>7049760
No I really do see it now. They're just too narrow.

>>7049762
to be fair, its literally touhou

>>7047562
draw me like one of your french girls :)

Updated this. I think I'm happy with it.

>>7049770
Come on don't lump me in with the loli people because I like touhou

>>7049791
:(
still liked it better before. plain can be nice too, easy on the eyes y'know?

>>7049825
Ultimately it actually doesn't look much different because of the heavy clothes. I also have no intention to draw her nude or without the cute dress

>>7047815
remember that a human being is made out of lego shapes. learning to draw these lego shapes and putting them together with the right proportion is the most difficult thing in the world, but once you can do that, you've got the whole world as your oyster.

My suggestion to learn how to do this is to watch this video: https://youtu.be/RXb-Y_kz2aU

Do this on every single part of the body. Learn to draw heads, then learn to draw torsos, hands, legs, arms, etc. Draw a reference image multiple times, not just once, correcting your mistakes as far as possible. Then do it from memory and try to draw it accurately.

>>7049784
this is super cute, thank you anon <3

>>7047643
copy who you love

>>7048029
don't be so down. watch the ethan becker video in my previous post, and do that! Drawing is all about shape and learning to memorize shapes.

>>7048035
I wish I knew better tips to help people improve, besides just drawing a lot. If you keep drawing, you WILL improve, don't be so harsh on yourself.

Do lots of master copies, lots of memory drawings, lots of dragging your drawing over the reference, and lots of drawing from imagination, and you'll improve fast

>>7050534
>>7050543
>>7050559
looking back on these, i can tell i am on a bad drawing streak. these aren't very good, but it's too late to delete them. oh well

>>7048403
i think the structure should look more like this, but idk. I'm the worst person to ask about for portraits though.

>>7048584
>>7048608
these look great, anon

>>7050559
There's no exercise for good taste

>>7049545
your shapes and proportions are amazing anon. In the rest of my replies in this thread, I was telling anons to work on their shape and proportions, but at your stage you're way past that. Now, I think it's time to really hammer in your human anatomy and finding the corners and cross contours of form. Doing something like copying through Bridgman twice would be a tremendous learning experience for you, I think, or even booting up Vilppu courses and working through his anatomy. Great work

>>7049727
i feel like you're actually a really really good artist who's just making an intentionally wonky drawing.

>>7049733
i would say to pay more attention to the structure of the head, but it can feel a bit weird to say that an anime face has a structure. It's true though, the Loomis head will help a lot with stylized faces, even stuff like anime heads. Take the Loomis method, and apply it to lots of master copies and memory drawings of artists who you want to imitate.

>>7050577
sorry you're a homo

>>7050534
holy shit tysm!

>>7034652
thanks and
can you tell how do you make you poses less stiff? what kind of practice or resources would you recommend for that

and do you give crits on paintings as well?

>>7050586
thanks boss! i tried bridgmaning a bunch of times but couldn't really make it stick to my brain. Maybe memorizing some actual medical anatomy stuff before attempting again will help

>>7050543
>>7050559
Artist that posted the original images.

Thank you for your help. I had tried drawing for fun of it reignite my passion for drawing again, but I still think that Im an inferior artist, due to drawing and studying intensly last two years and still making unappealing shitty drawings. I had been trying to get feedback and advice on how to improve but now Im only more scared to draw as the voice keep telling me how every aspect of the drawing is wrong.

Help?

>>7045671
Not everything is supposed to be a whooshing. It's what you like but it doesn't fit everything. Their drawing is fine as is.

Your wooshing makes things seem less static, sure, but static grounds stuff in reality and can make or break the tone and feel. On the one hand we have a serious-looking Victorian era piece that makes me understand this is grounded and gritty and then you come along and turn it into a pinup for X, or worse, convince people it should be.

Hello there again, how would you say this looks?

>>7051017
It's always very difficult getting 2 characters interacting like this. I wish I had more advice other than just work on your fundies, but it really just does come down to knowing form well, having dexterity, and being able to draw proper proportions. It's an ever ending process of improvement that we have to go through, and I am not done with that journey myself.

If I had to give you a cheat code to improve faster than other people though, it would have to be memory drawings. They're a pain in the ass to do, and they make your brain foggy and tired, but they'll improve your work faster than your peers, I promise you ;)

>>7051004
>>7051332
<3

>>7051828
very true. that redline was more like, "hey this art is already very good, what other suggestions could I make?" but probably I shouldn't be doing that too much.

>>7051805
I can tell you're getting better anon. how are your studies going? anatomy is really important if you want to draw lewd scenes. hammering them in with memory drawings is the best way to do it

I was a bit unsure with the way to draw the second girl, you might have a better idea of what you want there

>>7051084
these studies look great anon.

>>7051877
I think you did a good job. There's nothing wildly off. Bringing in a bit more anatomical nuance to your lines might help a lot. I got a lot of my anatomy from Bridgman. It carries over surprisingly well to drawing women, and then you can just notice and refine those bridgman landmarks during your life drawing studies. Bridgman might be a bit much, though, if all you want to draw is women. There was anon in the beg thread (who draws really well) who recommended copying doujins, and I think that's a great idea.

>>7051936
The second girl is leaning forward.
She's the one i needed help the most, bro

This is my main ref

>>7034652
I struggle to imagine what it is to ride the lighting. Please help Redline.

>>7051920
>very true. that redline was more like, "hey this art is already very good, what other suggestions could I make?" but probably I shouldn't be doing that too much.
I didn't mean for my post to read so harsh sorry about that.

>>7051962
will do it tomorrow

>>7052044
don't worry, not hurt <3

>>7051017
forgot to reply to your painting question. To be honest, I don't really paint, from the beginning, I wanted to be a comic artist / storyboard artist, so it's always been line. I have done some painting, but it's always value.

you can still post a painting, because someone else can do a paintover. lots of good artists on this board, much better than me

Some help if someone is up to it. The left arm feels fucked

>>7034652 (OP)
Oshiete Kudasai sensei sama dono :)

Any advice on this?

>>7051942
Alright, I'll keep those in mind

>>7034652
Requesting crits
Originals:
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/nomoreheroes/images/e/ef/BadGirl.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20080408012453
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/nomoreheroes/images/a/af/HollySummers.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20080506040900

>>7051962
i would say, find another composition, if you wanted the second girl to be an important part of the composition. Otherwise, I think what I did before was fine. I'm not an expert at porn poses, so go do your own research

>>7051963
I think reference is going to be your best friend, when studying gesture. Mine is kinda lame, so i recommend you go on youtube and look up your own reference

>>7052162
this one was quite difficult for me, I had to redraw it several times. For something like this, just focusing more on the basic forms, using simpler lines, and taking the time to fiddle and just things is most important. The thing that sticks out to me the most is how the face is constructed, I don't think it's quite solid enough yet. Her right cheek should be more visible, I think.

>>7052335
your sketch is very umai! these are just suggestions on how to jyoutatsu the pose. More lively action, and turning things a bit so they aren't perfectly from the side, can make a big difference.

>>7052495
I recommend following this guide as exactly as possible:

https://davidfinchart.com/where-to-start-and-where-to-go-from-there-a-roadmap-to-professional-quality-art/

Bridgman will make you so good at drawing i promise

>>7052758
very glad you're doing master copies. Look more carefully at the proportions. Draw and redraw a drawing when you're not satisfied with what you did. when you feel like you are accurate enough, redraw from memory. It's a gradual process of building your observational abilities, your dexterity, and your visual library of shapes and forms, so it just takes thousands of drawings to get better. You're on the right track

>>7051805
>>7051936
Hey mate
Can you check me out?
I "think" I found out what's wrong. Boob squeeze was missing

>>7053006
Thanks mate. Good to know I'm on the right rack. I'll definitely try to re-do these ones.

>>7052976
Absolute legend. That arm was driving my crazy. I guess I wasn't really pushing it enough. Thanks dood

How does she look?

>>7052989
Lol I wasnt expecting another nihongo jouzu lad. I might try that, was more of a meme doujin redraw I did in a few hours. I got another sketch for a piece ill dump a lot more time into you wanna take a stab at that as well

>>7051920
>>7051936
good advice

>>7051877
>>7051942
i think it comes down to knowing the little things. Its not enough to know how to draw boob "correctly", you need to find the specific way of drawing them that looks appealing and lewd. Its not so easy and can take a lot of searching, and im not talking about polishing an individual drawing, I mean finding the ways that do tend to work, getting rid of the ways that don't. For me I can always count on some favorite shapes i like, i've already sorted through enough to know ways that work.


the biggest difference between yours and his is above, plus you can see his visual library in it, (like you can see the idea of the "real" in his work.) I think that tends to show more in people who draw sketches from memory, it always gives off a very different vibe than a reference or construction based line-art drawing. I don't see the "idea" in yours, not in the whole drawing, nor the individual parts. Once you've refined your methods, its really not so strange for it to come out with the subtle details he has though.

Anatomy is more like a tool to help solve hard problems, it doesn't teach you form (even though everyone always talks like it does, they misspeak, its like saying to use sledgehammers to pound nails.) Simply studying and drawing a figure normally is the best way to learn a form, anatomy is just for the confusing bits you have trouble with. Try studying a buff gym woman, its way easier than looking underneath the skin. Getting lost in anatomy minutia is dumb, remembering how each of the major puzzle pieces interlock is good is "probably" the only basic anatomy you really need. Maybe im exaggerating saying that, but im not so wrong. Style, charm, good methods, basic form - and the ability to do it all from memory, this is far more important.

>>7053157
I would do it like this.

>>7053038
>>7053091
Glad i could help

>>7053518
Yes it is ;)

>>7053551
Everything here is right

>>7053157
You’re a good artist, I don’t know why I”m drawing over your work desu.

>>7054219
Meant for >>7053012

>>7053316
my nihongo is very 下手, but I recently discovered djt and have been reading vns to boost my comprehension. I'm on my fifth VN and 3rd LN, and I've gotten so much better recently. I finally feel like my Japanese mangaka dreams can come true.

as for the redline, your drawing is very good, there's nothing wrong with the drawing. I guess I would just make some slightly different design choices, but these are just opinions. There is nothing wrong with your drawing

>>7036120
>There are no excuses for boring poses!!!
yours is not dynamic either, it's just messed up

>>7054243
私は理解している。でも、すぐにイラストを完成させなければならないので、こんな感じです。

>>7054316
まあ、好きにしろ

>>7054316
すみません。俺の言葉がまずい。この絵が美しい。本当に。

Oh my god I'm so bad at Japanese

下手くそ

>>7054219
Damn it, I am already doing the bg.
Oh well, at least I'm not yet outlining

Thanks, yo

Redliner anon I have two crit requests please. First on this copy.
Og: https://wikimon.net/images/archive/7/78/20230624073555%21Dcg-BT14-102.jpg

>>7054962
Then I tried to redo it from memory the next day on another notebook to not cheat. Is that good practice?

Loincloth’s lack of flow bothers me. Got any ways to fix it doc?

I'm doing one crit right now, then some more in an hour

>>7054962
this is a very ambitious copy anon, kudos to you. I would say, as you are learning to draw the human figure, try to limit your copy to just the human figure. In other words, you're okay leaving out the clothing and wings and props and stuff for now. Just focus on getting good at depicting the form and anatomy of the body.

another tip is to only focus on a single body part, if you are having trouble. Take just the arm, and maybe draw it 6x. 3x from reference, 3x from memory, back and forth. (in other words, do from ref, then from memory, then reference again, then memory, etc.) This way you can really drill in the shapes into your muscle memory.

Also, take some time to just do full figures that are simple cylinder figures. Much like how I drew the leg, learning to draw the simple forms of the body in proper proportion is a good skill. You can go on quickposes.com and do 5 minute poses to learn this.

>>7055006
The idea of doing a memory drawing the day after is good, that's what Kim Jung Gi recommended. I never did it though, because I couldn't keep organized enough to do it. I'd do several dozens of studies a day, and by the next day, I'd get mixed up over what i drew today, yesterday, the day before, etc. I think doing memory drawings right after you just drew it is good enough, desu. But if you can keep organized enough to do it, I encourage it.

something to pay attention to is the solidity of the body, the rigid box forms that the ribs, pelvis, and head make, and basically, just structural integrity overall. Make your drawings in multiple layers, using a kneaded eraser to lighten your sketch lines. I would go so far as to ink your studies, at least with a ball point pen. You want clean lines so you can judge if what you're doing is accurate or not.

Have you seen the David Finch roadmap? I learned memory drawing from david finch, and I think the roadmap proves a very good structured learning path that goes from the most basic fundamentals, all the way to being able to utilize memory drawing to it's fullest potential. As much as I like to tell people to just "copy your favorite artists" there's something to be said about learning things in the right order. You will improve either way, as long as you're drawing, but you might be able to keep your sanity longer if you follow some learning path

https://davidfinchart.com/where-to-start-and-where-to-go-from-there-a-roadmap-to-professional-quality-art/

>>7055447
>>7055475
Thank you so much anon, yeah I did try to bite way more than I could chew with that copy. I'll follow your tips of keeping it simple with basic shapes instead of overexerting my brain with complex designs and the memory exercises are good too, I'll start with the torso since I draw it like it's made of jello. I'll checkout David Finch's roadmap too! being self taught feels like going in circles with a blindfold on

>>7055139
Sexy art, bro. I'm no expert on cloth, but I tried a few designs.

For the anatomy, I made some minute adjustments. I made the knees more rounded, the breasts equally sized, and fudged with the arm proportions. What you had before was good though

>>7055498
so glad I could help. Good luck on your drawing journey

I'm aping a famous painting so it's important this pose be bland and symmetrical. Not even sure why I drew a face since it's going to be covered.

>>7054226
Thanks. I only really picked up drawing again recently so it's nice to know I'm still good at it.

>>7055700
Here's a completed sketch. Any critique?

>>7055700
>>7056727
it's good, anon. i don't have any crits for it. Is there a reason why you're drawing on a dark background with neon lines? Also, your lines are very scritchy scratchy, but you're able to control them so well and put them in the right place, I'm hesitant to say you're chicken scratching because you're a beginner. It seems like an intentional choice to me.

anyways, maybe think about using CSI lines for your final line art. that's about it

>>7056937
I have carpal tunnel and bad eyes so the dark background helps a lot. The scratchy lines are just a way I can manage how shaky my hands are these days. It's all ways to cope with failing health.

>>7056942
feel better soon, anon

>>7056942
Get better soon Anon.

This probably my second attempt at drawing two people interacting with each other in perspective. To help me, and to partially mark out a wall, I sketched a box with a grid inside. Making references is rather hard since the angle is difficult to get without a tripod (camera meant to be aimed at right small of back). While I initially kept the most of the hands away from each other or on the walls, the poses proved to be rather awkward. It feels more natural to have them hold each other like this but Anon's left arm is giving me some trouble.

>>7056942
I didn’t get carpal tunnel. But I got commissioned to redraw some hentai for a scanlation project, way overdid it, and fucked up my hands and wrists pretty bad, my RSI was bad enough I couldn’t turn doorknobs or faucets, nevermind type or draw. I had to basically stop using my hands for anything for about a month. I was sleeping with both my wrists in braces overnight. The one big thing that helped me was the Gold Medal Bodies wrist exercise cheat sheet. https://gmb.io/wrists/

That 90% fixed my hands in a couple weeks. Then I started doing resistance exercise — INCLUDING overcoming isometric exercises for finger/hand/wrist extensors. And that got my hands back to 100%.

I actually haven’t needed to do the wrist cheat sheet since the first couple months. That was several years ago now. I do it again on rare occiasions if my wrists start to feel weird. I am able to draw for 2-4 hours a day with no ill effects.

Also, IDK if it’ll help your particular situation, but doing the carnivore diet drastically improved all of my chronic health issues, including fatigue and depression and joint pain. Been doing it 5 years now. Hope you feel better soon, anon.

>>7034652
Can I get a redlne? I've been practicing drawing entirely from imagination but they end up stiff. Also please explain the Bridgeman twice thing

>>7057216
I'll give the exercises a try. It really couldn't hurt anything to try.

>>7057177
>>7056947
Thank you.

>>7057216
I was having some wrist cramps for an hour now but when I used your wrist cheat, it felt like farting a stomachache away.

Shiiiiieeet
Someone need to make this link a sticky
Or least passed around more often

I can still feel the relieved tension on my wrist, yo

Posting this here for anyone who was invested in how it came out.

Tried drawing batman. I tried fixing his legs but gave up i just wasn't skilled enough.

Tried drawing batman. I know i fucked up legs and he is stiff but not sure how should it look if it was correct

>>7056937
do you have a blog or post on DAD?

>>7034652
Help pls redline-san!

>>7057187
the difficulty here is not so much about form or perspective, but more about proportion. if you can sort of learn to just draw forms with the right length and width, and put them together into a sane looking human, you can sort of fake perspective.

maybe that's bad advice lol

>>7060404
you deleted the testosterone out of the picture

>>7060404
The person in front was meant to be a guy, but I appreciate the suggestion.

>>7060405
>>7060433
Now I don't know if the redline has more test or less

>>7057399
basic shapes! simplify the figure into CSI lines and learn to make them proportionately accurate.

Bridgman is a way to memorize those shapes of the body, but it's just one way. TACO anatomy is my new obsession at the moment

>>7058645
are you working through the David Finch roadmap? If not, I recommend doing that. Once you graduate Bridgman, you can start copying all your favorite comic artists, and that should take your work to a very high level. I love Dave's channel all around, and he has great study streams that I think everyone should watch.

>>7060404
>>7060433 me
What would be the best way to practice forms?

>>7059113
your drawing is good! my redline is just more of a suggestion to get more depth in the picture. More overlaps in general, etc.

>>7060459
Master copy + memory drawing.

Watch this whole thing and draw along:
https://youtu.be/ZqJ2h4Jw5nU

>>7060467
>Master copy + memory drawing.
Thank you. I'll use the video too.

>>7060479
no problem. it's a great way to practice that's also a lot of fun. death to box grinding

>>7035182
Barbed

>>7060456
Wow thank you. I got two questions if you don't mind.
1: Is it problem if i eyeball redline in trad? I like to download works from better anons and try to eyeball.
2: I have Michael Hampton, tomscottdraws and Bridgeman the human machine but idk which one is one to prioritize the most? You said Bridgeman so i'm gonna try but idk if i should ditch the rest?
Also yes i love studying David's work and his channel. I was just drawing this joker head for fun but i will check out his roadmap, no issue
Thanks either ways

>>7036120
what the fuck did you do to his right leg? what the fuck is wrong with you? answer: you are a shonen addicted ape

>>7051805
Welp, time for color

>>7060762
>time for color
You are about to see lots of tangents that you did not initially pick up start to appear as soon as you start laying down the flats. Good luck!

>>7057187
>>7060404
I'll clean this up and start coloring. Thanks again!

good shit OP

I can sort of see some of the mistakes i've made, but help is always welcome. Could some redline this? I'm having a hard time integrating foreshortening for the impression of movemente.
sorry for the camera quality

>>7034668
topkek

I am on vacation, frens, so i may not do anything for the next few days. If someone else wants to redline, feel free to do so. You better be good though >:(

>>7060624
The david finch roadmap should answer all your questions. Bridgman is sort of something you do after you have basic anatomy down’

>>7062085
Bridgman anon???? Hisashiburi desu ne. Great work, you got so good

>>7063019
arigatouuu
yes I've been working on rendermaxxing so I haven't had much to show the msg thread but hopefully that will change soon

Any advice? I winged this pose and was pleasantly surprised. I phoned in the foot and the back, but tne right arm before drawing the hair was looking nice.

>>7063019
Thanks, wish you a good vacation

>>7034652
Got into redlining yesterday. Would like some crits on what I’ve done so far

>>7064973

>>7064975

>>7064973
>>7064975
>>7065582
i have no idea what these are supposed to be redlining. turn off the pressure size and clean up those lines; the point of "red"lines is to correct something and give the other person something READABLE, and not make a mangled mess on top of another drawing

>>7065590
Thanks for the crit. What is turning off the pressure size going to do? As for the readability, do you think the drawing should be darker so the drawing is less noticeable? Also, how’s the anatomy and what not in your opinion? Is it good enough to continue once the aforementioned issues are fixed?

>>7065594
>What is turning off the pressure size going to do?
not clog up the canvas with weird stroke variations since you can't seem to control them
> As for the readability, do you think the drawing should be darker so the drawing is less noticeable?
fix your lines first, they're explaining nothing at a glance. a redline's supposed to be informative
> Also, how’s the anatomy and what not in your opinion?
I genuinely can't tell with some of these. the "boxes" on the 2nd seem to be arbitrarily placed and don't even connect edge to edge right. the anatomy of the skull sucks though, go look at an actual skull more

>>7066401
Okay thanks. I turned off the pressure size and it helped.

>the anatomy of the skull sucks though

Damn shame because I own a skull. Guess I’ll have to study it a lot more.

While I’m at it does anyone know what brush this is? It’s driving me crazy

how do i learn to do those cool dynamic and extreme perspective/foreshortening poses like you redline chads

I'll learn a lot with a radline

>>7045704
Stop doing redlines that are too hard for your skills.
You simply can't draw feet.

>>7066461
>While I’m at it does anyone know what brush this is? It’s driving me crazy
thats my sketch, it's the charcoal tip from ctrl paint's digital sketching set. i basically just use nothing but the three brushes in that set lol it's just a rectangle with a texture and opacity sensitivity, if you can't find it in the brush thread you can either make it or i could upload it myself if i've still got the .abr

>>7066677
Thanks for the response. I use iartbook and I’m new to digital art so navigating all of the settings is foreign to me. What does opacity sensitivity do, and will the .abr (what’s that mean?) help me replicate it?

>>7066800
> What does opacity sensitivity do
press harder = more opacity
> .abr (what’s that mean?)
it's the file format for Photoshop brushes
> and will the .abr (what’s that mean?) help me replicate it?
if your program can't import it, then not really

what are the brush settings there?

>>7066803

>>7066803
Ignore the first gif, this one has more

I feel somethings off but can’t nail it.

>>7066819
haha fuck lmao thats a lot of options, i'll attach you what I've got so you can at least have a reference, but man that's probably much more powerful than I'd even know what to do with it

>>7066831
Thanks a ton. It’s funny that the options are so extensive because this is a free app lmao, and this isn’t even premium

>>7066828
unusually long far foot, no far shoulder (with that kind of muscle on the near shoulder you'd expect the other one to also be meaty), very thin abdomen and back (near to where the arms are) but a lot of muscle elsewhere, and weird near thigh musculature and insertion around the hip joint (why is her ass overlapping the side of her leg?) the near foot also doesn't seem to be on the ground plane and is instead weirdly tilted towards us. get some reference for the knees and calves, you totally forgot all of the musculature below the calf. cute devil, anon

>>7066912
Thanks! I was worried if i showed to much of the other shoulder it wouldn’t look like her hands were behind her back.

fix my stuff 4 free, ty

>>7066950
made some changes, hopefully you can do something with this one Redline Kun

>>7062625
Alita!! This is a difficult pose, anon! Good job so far. I would do some of the proportions differently, and also some suggestions on how to get more movement into the piece. The biggest thing is the face. I like the way she was drawn in the manga, so I'm learning towards that, instead of the realistic face that you've got

>>7064279
this is great, anon. my redline isn't really a correction, but more just suggestions on how to push the pose

>>7066828
I like this character, anon. it's always a bit difficult to redline people whose styles differ so much from my own, so take this with a grain of salt. These are the shapes that I'd personally use, and I learned them from Bridgman, figure drawing, manga artists, etc. You will need to find and refine your own set of preferred shapes for the human body.

>>7064973
>>7064975
>>7065582
you're really a very skilled artist, but it's difficult to see your work over the person you're critiquing. I'd lower the opacity of the original art a bit.

Also, I don't think redlines are really about the redline themselves, but about the advice you can give them to keep studying and learning for themselves, so I always try to write something that might help them.

>>7066476
nothing to correct here sir. great work

>>7066950
>>7067340
this is wonderful anon

>>7066950
>>7067340
okay okay, your work is amazing, but this correction is really small, I don't think the head is constructed quite right. If we're looking up at her, the eyes should be higher up on the head, and we should be seeing the eye at an angle, with the outer end of the eye higher up than the inner end. I would also vary up the hair so that it's not just just a ping pong ball at the top, but I don't know what character you're drawing, so maybe she was really designed that way. Take these suggestions with a grain of salt, as always

redline me pls

>>7034652
>/beg/ faking it 'til I make it.
Tear it apart, please.

>>7068060
I drew and redrew the fist like 10 times but in the end, I couldn't do it. guess I know what to study next...

for the overall anatomy of the body, you've got it down pat, I think. the next part, now is just thousands of hours of drawing, building that dexterity, sensitivity to proportion, shape, flow, and other such things. There's no way around it except to do master copies for several thousand hours. Live in your bookshelf, copy through art books from cover to cover, and do your studies again from memory. watch the david finch study streams, those will teach you everything you need to know about how to study efficiently.

good luck, anon sama

>>7068066
I personally think the most important fundamental in drawing is shape and proportion. If you can get those trapezoid pieces down for the torso, the triangle for the shoulder, the cylinder for the arm, and the round, peculiar anime head shape, you'll be like 90% of the way there towards drawing competently. After that, it's learning anatomy, form, clothing, and everything else.

Best way to learn that is to get the TACO anatomy books and to do the cognitive drawing method on every single diagram.

Cognitive drawing:
https://youtu.be/s_NuJIJ6wGY
https://youtu.be/G8e2DcN5kAo
https://youtu.be/S9Cx4pIjSvA

This process will probably take you a year, going through the entire book, but you'll come out better than 99.9999999% of /ic/

>>7068201
>peculiar anime head shape
It's funny that you say that because I started using irl nude models (porn actors) instead of anime artists i like. I guess my blind drawing is bleeding through.
>TACO anatomy books
I'll look into them. Someone gave me a bunch of PDFs of the Morpho anatomy books. I haven't looked at them yet, but maybe those will work as well?

>>7068246
yes, morpho will work, but I think taco lends itself towards the anime aesthetic better, at least a little. It's important to study from reference images that you like, because the aesthetic of the reference is what your art will start to resemble. i studied a ton of Bridgman, and I think you can see traces of his michelangelo-ish figures in my sketches too. some anons might not want that

whatever you want to do though, is fine, as long as you're studying and doing memory drawings and memorizing shapes

>>7034652
Did some tracing on this for her body and his head, but went back over and tried to analyze the reference and use association. Ended up elongating the dragon's body, anything else egregious?

Someone recommended the draw box course for smoother more confident lines, working through those exercises between sessions. Still learning my way around the tablet/software.

>>7068016
Very well. Here's my attempt, I raised the breasts slightly as well. Not sure why you drew the ribcage and arm that way, when it doesnt connect to the rest of the drawing. The character is Mori calliope, who has a standard smooth hime cut, so I think it looks good leaving the top of the head as is. Let me know if there is anything else to correct.

>>7067991
Appreciate it, when we work on something we get tunnel vision, I can see you managed to emphasize a lot of the parts I had to hide behind the hair or something else by just moving it slightly, noice.
And adding the 3/4 angle to the legs makes it way less flat, now I just need to be able to draw legs in perspective.
Thank you for your time, will try your suggestions on my next pieces.

While I'm not going to be redoing this one, I do hope to get some tips for future work, even simple ones like this.

>>7057216
Do you have any suggestions for fingers instead of wrists?
I can deal with a sore wrist and just chill, but essentially since 15 years ago I've been able to crack my fingers really loud
Perhaps I just got fucked fingers really early and it just became normal
Like they give a loud audible knack like breaking a bar (food) if I simply clench a fist

>>7068349
I wouldn't spend time tracing things, and I definitely wouldn't spend a lot of time studying weird 3d models like that. It's just no good for learning to draw. Spend more time copying manga and studying taco anatomy, and just draw a lot and have fun. Memory drawings are great for retaining what you learned and transferring your studies to imagination work. I recently have been doing cognitive drawing from jason brubaker, I think it's a great way to study.

Stop doing drawabox, it's time inefficient and not fun. Just do master copies and memory drawings. Line quality will come with time and experience

>>7068350
much better, anon. And about the torso, I felt like the gesture would be stronger if she leaned towards the left, but that's up to you

>>7068429
I'm so glad you could get something out of it. Looking back at my redline, the hand seems really detached, I really did just shit it out and not double check anything. sorry for the low effort sketch. You're a great artist already, so at least you don't need to depend on my advice that much to improve

>>7068432
your drawing is super good, there's nothing wrong with the "fundies" side of this. I just have some design suggestions.

The first is to use more straights vs curves. You don't really want vague, squiggly lines like the ones you did for her sleeves. If possible, match straight lines against curved lines.

The second thing is her face shape, it's a bit weird, that peanut shape. I know western cartoons have that shape a lot, but I'm not a fan of it, and if you're using anime eyes, you might as well match the eyes with the proper face shape. Again, this is just a subject opinion of mine.

Anyways, don't take any of this too harshly. The drawing is great, my only gripes are with stuff that's easy to fix, if you want. You don't have to take these suggestions, of course

>>7068432
Actually I had her leaned more to the left but it made her look like she was falling over, so I had to move the legs to accommodate for it, so that's probably not a good idea.

>>7068580
Oops, I meant to reply to this anon
>>7068563
Anyways, I'll call it good like those changes. It doesnt seem like anybody's complaining about anything anymore

>>7068432
Marshmallow head. Why is she leaning so far to the right?

Hey there, do you think I'm getting better at this?

>>7068653
The head looks too big imo

>>7068007
Thanks red line anon!

>>7068563
Alright, I'll look into. Ty very much.

>>7068653
I think you are! If you haven't already, check out cognitive drawing here: >>7068201

Memory drawings are the fastest way to improve shapes and memorize good shape, and I think cognitive drawing is the best implementation of memory drawing. i've been doing it recently and improving a lot.

>>7068585
>>7068661
>>7068671
np!!!

>>7068789
Why the hair?

>>7068432
The legendary Hapeanut Miku makes a comeback?

Not just shape, but the eyes are way above the first half of the head, usually the top of the eyes sit on the half line division of the head, or even lower for little girls. Eyes at the top make the face longer and more masculine.

>>7068573
Why did you stiffen the pose? Body is way too straight, should always have some bend and contrapposto

>>7069580
yeah, not all my shits are gold desu

>>7069600
They are to me, redline-anon

>>7069616
>>7069600
Most of the time they're wrong but at least hes drawing for anons i guess.

>>7068432
>>7068631
>>7069420
Thank you all for your comments! Please excuse the late response...

> The second thing is her face shape, it's a bit weird, that peanut shape.
> Marshmallow head.
> Not just shape, but the eyes are way above the first half of the head
Yeah I really bungled that one. I was trying to have the character looking up, but that didn't come out right at all. Drawing soft/round/marshmallow-like faces is a habit since I draw those kind of characters like that, but it clearly was a weak point here. I'll have to rethink how I draw faces at certain angles to iron this one out.

>Why is she leaning so far to the right?
To make the figure look confident, like she's pushing out her chest. I have to figure out a way to communicate that more clearly.

>The legendary Hapeanut Miku makes a comeback?
Quick rundown?

Again, thank you all for your time, I really do appreciate it!

>>7069984
Meant to include >>7068573 too.

>>7069984
if u want to make her push out her chest, then arcing the top of the body like I did is probably your best bet. Basically you want a subtle "C" curve in the body, what you had before makes her look like shes leaning and falling over to the right. Also if you push your chest out while turned at this angle, you are going to lean backwards in space as well

>>7068789
>>7068563
Hmm. I might change it the legs and ass a bit more like this so that the perspective is a bit more clear. Lmk if this is better anon

>>7070415
that really subtle flow between the back and hips is really amazing. what a great drawing, anon

>>7060762
>>7053012
>>7051805
Yay i am done.
Gonna post this in pixiv later if no one can point a problem