/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Don't forget to practice drawing fat old balding men

Pls someone help me understand hair shadows. From here I can see there's a light source coming from the right but why are there different shades of shadow?

>>7032567
Pretty sure the base color is just a gradient

>>7032567
the light is above, that's why the down planes of the floof on both sides are shaded. the streaks darker streaks are modelling tone to add some more floofiness.

>>7032627
What is modeling tone

>>7032567
that's basic gradient shit, pic related is what you should try to learn

>>7032651
>basic gradient shit
This "basic" gradient is something I don't understand. How do I learn your pic when I don't even have the basics down?

>>7032653
that's what you get for skipping your fundies, and being a fucking retard for not spotting baby tier painting methods.

>>7032651
>>7032663
>basic gradient shit
>fundies
>painting methods
You're not helpful and you're only spouting buzzwords you can't even deconstruct and understand yourself.

>>7032567
it's really not that hard, lasso tool and airbrush is enough to get you that, the different shades is just a stylization of what hair "depth" would look like. like gaps or whatever

>>7032651
>>7032663
stop being a retard and explain something for once

>>7032663
Pyw, dunning krugo

>explain how to use the spray tool, dunning
chudder!

the absolute state of brainlets, jesus fuck i have said millions of times, /beg/ shouldn't be allowed here and it shoudl be in the OP that stylizing requires to have an iq above chimp

>>7032673
That's not what the initial anon asked you fucking dumbass.

>>7032675
neither what the other crabs are bitching about

>>7032668
You are failing at the basic observation level. If you identify a gradient, soft edge, hard edge or lost edge, when you see it, then you are failing at a level where a random 4chan posters can't help you.

Its like asking someone what the plus sign means in math. Or asking what G-sharp minor sounds like. You need to get back to super basics. Its not worth anyone's time to type out this shit for some random guy on 4chan.

>Bullied out of /beg/ for posting "tranime"
>Bulied out of /asg/ because too beg
>tfw

How do I lrn 2 paint, my only experience with rendering is anime style basic 1 color + 1 shadow.

>le self pity headpat baiting greentext

>>7032697
Because self pity = self acceptance, deal with it :)

>>7032653
>>7032663
>>7032668
>>7032670
>>7032673
>>7032671
>>7032675
>>7032679
>>7032694
>>7032697
>>7032699
/HAM/ solves this

>i will have the last word teehee, look at my randoseru emotes ;D!!!
>drawing? fuck that, this is more important

And this is how you spot a zoomer and of course a perma/beg/

>>7032703
> conme to /ham/beast general
>what we do different?
>we just copy like /asg/ buuuuuuuuuut, it will be on /ham/ rather than /asg/, check. mate.

Don't care about what's being argued but all that greentext rambling and meme posting makes you sound super fragile.

>>7032703
stfu and fuck off

>Nice a new threa-
What the fuck is happening here

>>7032715
quintisential /asg/
>retard asks retarded question
>gets btfo
>morons defending him but not arguing about the question itself

>>7032719
More like
>retard asks retarded question
>retarded dunning kruger appears, post a completely different style and doesn't elaborate

>>7032722
>purposely leaves out that the reply was advicing to learn something better >>7032651
not that he will teach you while holding you by the cunt like a good /beg/ would need- oh wait.
>strawmaning, and dragging the shitposting further

Gee i wonder who could it be. Anyways im going back at drawing, so dont't wait for my reply crabtard-kun

>>7032704
>>7032707
>>7032709
>>7032719
>>7032722
pyw faggots

>>7032645
don't worry about it

Why does learning to draw cute anime girls bring out the most unhinged anti-social behaviour?

Off to a great start, I see.

>>7032730
Retarded advice fitting for a retarded dunning kruger.

>>7032735
>bring out the most unhinged anti-social behaviour
More like attracts the most metally ill and stupid people and the few people that aren't have to put on with them. There should be a filter of sorts to gate keep those niggas from here.

>>7032735
Look up cute aggression

>>7032772
>not anime style
>unironic bad anatomy
ngmi

>>7032735
Newsflash anon!
we are depraved human beings.

>>7032772
Can someone redline this?

>>7032772
This is what happens when you don't listen to good advice like >>7032493

REMEMBER
they all studied abroad for some time
Yoneyama Mai (Europe)
Mika Pikazo (South America/Brazil)
Mochizuki Kei (Europe)
taiki (USA)
Ookuma Panda (Europe)
They all have a different style.

You dont want to become a generic japanese artist n*155652

>40+ posts
>0, nada, nothing, zero, cero, nica,ゼロ works posted

note: pyw doesnt SOLVE THIS

>>7032857
you gotta love the Prokonister, you just GOTTA

>>7032855
>you'll never draw like Japanese people because you are not Japanese
>remember that you need to go to other countries than Japan to expand your visual library
You're an absolute mongoloid.

>>7032855
nah thanks, i will rather like my jpanese cartoon drawfags that never moved from their basement

>>7032857
LEAVE ME ALONE!!!
let me watch 3 hours minecraft documentaries in peace!!!

>>7032866
why are you mad? get a life dude

Test

>>7032895
Your post made no sense bro.

Does anybody else get extremely stressed out like me thinking that they can't draw for shit? Then force themselves to draw from imagination to prove a fake point. Also I feel like a cheater for using gradient maps on certain pictures. So I don't color my pictures that much in fear of turd polishing.

>>7032916
no reason to be mad

Another drawing I did. I need to take the time out to memorize the anatomy of arms and legs.

>>7032926
I meant to say hands, stupid cellphone auto correct.

>>7032919
Sorry if I appeared as such. Just, as a basis I think non-Japanese artists already have what you were referring to, so logically speaking there really is no way for us to become generic Japanese artists because our heritage will always show through.

>>7032917
Is this my brother snow snow?
Getting better and better nice nice!
I think you're epic and I support you!

Shouldn't her breasts specifically Ms. Ryza's left breast shouldn't it be slightly droopier to the side? It doesn't bother me though.

>>7032935
I didn't think that my style would be that recognizable yet.
Yeah, I think (her left breasts) could be fatter because I didn't draw the thin guideline correctly.

>>7032947
No, I think her left breast is slightly too 'stiff' but it's not like I'm the titty expert of the town.

Anyway, just keep up the good fight! I support you.

>>7032955
? Alright thanks. ? I think I might know who this is? Can you unblock me on twizzler? My other accounts are dead.

Ive drew everyday minimum 40minutes - 2 hours for an entire year、varying in original works、studies、meme ic books、youtube guides etc、but i feel ive improved not at all. Not howie posting but inironically what is the best thing to do here、the only thing I havent done yet is buy a course or go to art uni(i wont do the latter kek kys).

What should I do? I literally just want to draw sexy anime girls in varying perspectives (Ive been through all of perspective made easy) Yet it feels ive just moved sideways since I started.

Literally feel like the ASG pawell except i only sometimes post my studies

>>7033030
Show me some of your work and I'll give you my earnest opinion. It's hard to say anything interesting just based on words.

>>7033030
tldr things that never happen

>>7033030
In my opinion, if you can draw a cowboy hat, you can draw anything.

I started out copying but i never learned anything by just copying. Art comes from understanding from what and how we see things. pick up a game like Nier Automata and swing that camera. There's even a wireframe cheat code that you can use to study. you need to be able to visualize things in your head like that wireframe.

Don't go from left -> to right.

>>7033030
I feel the same way for myself although I am way too dense to do much studies.
Meme ic books and youtube guides I can't even scrape enough commitment together to bother with those because I just don't care in some odd way.
Really stubborn.
I also like drawing sexy anime girls in coolgangster perspectives.
My conviction was/is that studying Japanese animation would get me the results I desired but it always feels like I fall short of the majority pack.

But I just bought my first screen tablet I hope it will help but I am very doubtful it's the key.

I don't know either with regards on what to do but I will carry on regardless like I pretty much have since I started with the animehomo endeavour.

>Literally feel like the ASG pawell except i only sometimes post my studies
Same, but I don't think he's bad but it just doesn't look like 'art' or 'illustrations' but in his defense they are *studies* and that's all pawell does and he's not shy about it either.
But there's indeed something that I feel like I'm not getting.
I feel like I'm making massive oversights in the way I approach the endeavour of drawing.

Pic related is Mr. Pawell's most recent work.

>>7033142
>Don't go from left -> to right.
What do you mean with this? I don't understand.

>>7033207
ummmm sweetie you are lost, /beg/ is 2 blocks down

>>7033223
I'm not Mr. Pawell if that was your conviction.

>>7032963
Oh, really?
Yes, right away!

LIKE A SOLDIER!!!!!

>>7033236
>I'm not Mr. Pawell

>>7033248
OK OK OK OK SORRY SORRY SORRY MISTER!!!!

>>7033030
>what should I do
give it like 5 more years.

>>7033244
It won't let me msg u tho mr. snow snow I think u have da dms closed.

Well, regardless for who this was and what you think of me I still support you because I like supporting for the sake of supporting.

Keep up the good fight!!!

>>7033208
just don't give up.

There's some serious name fagging going on in here. Remember to keep discord drama to a minimum on /ASG/

>>7019267

Is there a way to shade that makes it so I can paint over everything to do the shadows without having to switch to a different colour and make it darker. Is this possible with CSP?

>>7032887
nice strokes, anon

>>7019267
>>7033316

>>7033030
People are literally not exaggerating when they say it takes 10 years to learn to draw. You only have baby numbers, anon

>>7033342
could you post the grid you used for that? or any grids in general you use

>>7033353
its nothing special
just a bunch of random straight lines made with the perspective ruler in csp

>>7033089
>>7033142
>>7033207
>>7033253
>>7033351
heres my best work by far、I dont even want to fap over my work、i just want it to be arousing for myself as thatll be my indicator it is for (some) viewers of my pieces.

>>7033107
they do im living proof、im not incompetant at other areas of life but art I literally feel 1 step forward 3 steps back over and over. Phone posting at the moment but i can flood here with studies and practice on end when im at my pc

>>7033426
oh and even though this was my best work it got (2) likes on twitter 0 retweets、other stuff i simply retweet usually gets 4+ likes through visibility of me.

>inb4 dont judge based on social media
i know

>>7033426
you're doing great for just 1 year. Keep trucking.

>>7033426
You said you've studied a bunch of stuff but none of this matters if it doesn't contribute to your present-day art process. Look at the neck, collarbone and shoulders. There are tons of issues there you could've fixed by pulling anatomy references (whether technical stuff or just artworks you like as a way to compare).
Like I can tell you're trying hard, but that's the thing, you also really need to make things easier for yourself.

Anyway I don't think you're a lost cause at all, I expected worse based on what you typed. 1 year is nothing. You can learn a lot from this attempt and make your next piece better. Just keep at it.

>>7032463
i don't understand how to anime eyes

>>7033426

>>7032673
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>>7033530
Well memed sir. I hope to reach your level someday.

Is there any point starting to try and go pro if I'm a 34yo nodraw

>>7033374
My art is lifeless cause I've never used lines

I posted on the last thread without noticing this one was up lol. Anyway, as i said in the last one, drawing anime sure is fun.

>>7033426
>>7033429
Dude, you need to have some anatomy studies pulled up on a different tab. Trying to draw from imagination is not recommended for beginners. Also my art only gets 10 likes at best on xshitter so don't stress it. But that's also my own fault as well. In your case it would be beneficial to live stream draw with a better artist or ask for a red-line.

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>>7033603
>>7033530
thanks for the advice, I have started studying anatomy pieces and memorizing visual locations. Perhaps I'm just expecting too much early on. The challenge I gave myself last year (everyday even when sick / when busy (to extent I did some at 3am on workday)) busted me quite a bit as it felt like torture at times not because I dislike art but because it was just filled with many downs with occasional ups with no breaks.

Will keep going.

Frieren wip

>>7034106
stark looking like a twink

>>7034008
Yeah, this one is looking better with that pose indeed. Give her some big sagging tits an hard nipples.

>>7034106
is not terrible but the head looks off to me, what shes trying to do with her hand? finger gun pointing at something or doing the silence sign? the dude looks very femenine unless that was on purpose

>>7034109
I like drawing cute boys. Looks like the only real thing is the hand , 1st one looks off to me, might do the second one using my own hand. Top of the head edit seems subtle enough to fix pretty easily

>>7032567
go download artists' you like psd files, go through the hair layers and figure out how they do it.

>>7034132
ty, tried to make some changes, gonna move to rendering after dis, ill keep stark as a twink

Do you use grids when drawing?

>>7019267
Drawing fast is difficult. I keep getting lost in details instead of quickly finishing the thing and moving on to the next.

>>7034526
Hey this one turned out nice. Good job.

>>7034526
How fast are you trying to draw? Personally it takes me quite a while when I decide I want to copy a settei drawing. I should probably stop just immediately putting pen to paper without pencil

IDK WHAT STYLE I WANT TO COPY/MAKE MY OWN

>>7034928
I have this problem as well, I keep jumping between different artists and never make progress. Sometimes I feel like I just need to buckle down and learn a workflow regardless about how I feel about the style.

>>7034928
How about you copy my style?

>>7019267
>>7034526
Tried to draw it again from memory without reference and erasing too much.
Took about 30 minutes, setting a stopwatch helps to try and remind me to not slow down too much.

>>7034537
Thanks.

>>7034793
It's just a feelings thing for me, I get exponentionally slower the closer I get to finishing the drawing which is no good for practicing I feel like.

aight i made some progress

>>7033223
kek

>>7033030
define improved, define better, what does improving mean to you? what does a better drawing mean to you?

>>7035291
Are those all not the same question?
I want to draw even somewhat similar to the artists I like, or even a fraction as appealing the pictures I've saved in my "appeal" folder

Improved would be any step away from my current ability, and a better drawing is literally just closer to the art I already like (and less like the beg slop I always make)

Rate my CSI game.

Btw am i retarded for feeling the need to come up with my own "unique" poses instead of referencing good poses from photos like a lot of people seem to do?

>>7035307
Are you actually using your brain while drawing?

>>7035337
I've already listed the things I do, if you simply wanted a reply so you could get your insult off then try someone else

is there an app or something that allows me to draw a straight line in csp by just holding shift, like in photoshop? it not having it just boggles my mind

>>7035341
I'm serious. Are you actually thinkin about the lines you're drawing or just going autopilot.

>>7035354
if you could hear my inner dialogue when I draw you'd think its schizophrenia. Have you got any actual advice

>>7035358
Take your meds and actually think about the lines you're drawing conciously.
If you've been drawing daily for a year how are the shoulders and neck just straight lines that connect in a 90 degree angle.

>>7035363
can you pyw b4 we continue, its a very low bar to mog but I've noticed something

>>7035364
You don't need to see my work to consider my advice and try to improve.

>>7035375
excellent, thanks. the pattern is the most aggressive "helper" anons always dont actually draw.

>>7035376
>aggressive
How new?

>>7035375
Why are you afraid of posting your work? Anon has pretty much exposed himself fully in the past days, why can't you?

>>7035388
no(draw)

>>7035389
Because my drawings aren't subject to petty argument.
Take the advice or leave it.

>>7035396
>enters thread
>spergs out
>if you dont like it I'll leave!
ok

>>7035396
If you don't want people to ask you to pyw then make an effort when handing critiques. "use your brain" and "think" are not helpful if told to someone who isn't even wired to be analytical. That doesn't make them a lesser person though even if you'd like to believe so, since it's likely they surpass you in other areas.

>>7035398
I get the schizo part now. Sorry and good luck.

>>7035401
>im not aggressive
top kek

>>7035311
Her spine could be broken but otherwise it's a really cool pose. I think this could be really cool.

>>7035401
you got btfod hard retard

>>7035401
>>7035363
>anon makes a joke using the word schizo at his own expense
>socially inept autist cant comprehend this, takes it literally and repeats it

and no work was posted, ic at its finest

>>7035540
Not him but there's other Anon's in here you know. just draw.

How's this looking so far? What should I work on most in general?

>>7035635
Spot check what lines up with what vertically as you go. And extend out diagonals to see where they hit too, the pose got wrecked because her back is so much more straight and upright

>>7035660
Thanks!

>>7035570
>just draw
This guy did exactly that
>>7034008
>>7033426
And what did he got? All that effort for... ?

>>7035350
10x better than photoshop
https://twitter.com/heytaroh/status/1624239043985944576

>>7035692
what have you got? PYW

Trying to make an original piece. How is it going? The girl looks awkward... What should I be fixing here?

>>7035761
cute mankee

notext

>>7035832
gmi

Focusing on trying to convincingly put hair around the head. Like locks of hair going in front of or behind other locks.

How my art is being used for crabbing is interresting.

Can any anons recommend me some japanese artist courses? Dont care for price, can even share it here after if anons are interested. Strong preference for japanese not KR/CN drawing in anime style.

>>7035955
what part of drawing do you want to learn?
i guess to list the obvious saito naoki and hide ch

>>7035959
Draftsmanship, composition, planning

rendering can last i just want good looking lineart

>>7035989
>planning
?
What does that mean?

>>7036007
"planning" a scene of what your drawing, through thumbnailing etc

>>7035955
https://coloso.global/zh-TW/products/Illustrator-Takashi-us
https://coloso.global/en/products/illustrator-marumoru-us

>>7035955
https://coloso.global/en/products/Illustrator-Takashi-us
https://coloso.global/en/products/illustrator-marumoru-us

welp

>>7036073
These look good, although is there one for basic character design, and asking again, are they already available here (would you have a link) or should I buy it and share it with you here?

>>7035396
>>7035401
>Take the advice or leave it
I left it

>>7036252
>are they already available here (would you have a link)
>https://coloso.global/en/products/Illustrator-Takashi-us
yes, but only video, no subs or materials
She have some videos on yt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezQ2nfu0vUA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KucWhw0xIqw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx0LTOon3Ns
>https://coloso.global/en/products/illustrator-marumoru-us
no
he stream sometimes but never archive
https://www.youtube.com/@marumoru8192
>should I buy it and share it with you here?
be the hero anon...
>is there one for basic character design
rn, the rinotuna(korean) is the best basic course about character design(sadly), you can find online for free

>>7036343
Thanks anon these are all high quality

I'm having a read on Coloso and working out if its even possible to share, so far all anons I'm seeing have gone through great pains to not much result because of their standalone video player.

Very much appreciate the japanese artist refs, I'm avoid KR/CN as I can generally understand JP and english subs generally differ greatly in meaning even if the translation is correct (not related to art)

>>7036343
may i ask what the standard brush set is? i feel like my brushes here aren't the right kind for anime illustrations, thoughts? opinions?

When i compare my art to others i see that they always say hard round or soft round. but i honestly have no idea what those are since I'm not a traditional artist and i don't change the settings. thanks.

>>7036367
>hard round, soft round
You can use mili brush and mili brush with pressure-density turned on.
I think a lot of people use the normal g-pen for line-based things. You can also get redjuice's brushes from the store for free, I like his flat brush.

>>7036385
milli pen, I mean

>>7036385
thanks a bunch anon!

>>7036367
>>7036394
I forgot to add, the thin gouache brush is a nice chalky brush that you can use to work "soft" lines, give that a try too.

>>7032463
>Why You Should Copy Anime:
>https://i.imgur.com/zNDsyF0.jpg
why is this retarded /ic/slop post in the op? if you honestly follow advice of some retard from here who doesnt even phw then you should rope because you will never make it

>>7036694
t. retard that did not post his work

does someone has that hair shading tutorial image that gets posted from time to time?
similar to this

>>7036694
>>7036708
The more time you spend digging up old posts from 2017, the less time your actually improving.

Tldr Also westerners just don't watch idolm@ster so they don't draw weaboo anime.

>>7035713
what's that

It's so mad that all those good artists can like do a squiqqle in 10 seconds and you can tell everything from it.

>>7036814
post squiqqle example or you are just another permabeg blowing things out of proportions

I didn't say that with hostile intent.

>>7035955
>>7036354
Neg has a course (it's on sale atm):
https://coloso.jp/products/illustrator-neg-jp
You can watch this video here to take a look at his process to see what it's like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kC8TQfYcuDI
I have some other courses on my backlog but I need to re-find them.

I know Japanese (it's my job) so same as you I'm really only interested in Japanese courses. If you need an art friend you can relate with feel free to hit me up.

>>7019267
How the hell do you make a hand look more anime?

>>7036950
look up anime hands and copy how they do it? depending on the artist, anime hands are just hands lol

>>7036354
>its even possible to share, so far all anons I'm seeing have gone through great pains to not much result because of their standalone video player.
its posible, ask in the video thread

>>7036354
Coloso is one of the more difficult sites to rip videos from.
Chinese don't give a fuck and have accomplished it, but it's not an easy feat.

day 145. been training hard lately. I predict I will master Anime within the end of the month.

>>7037171
That's the spirit.

>>7036950
By having asian jeans

>>7036252
>basic character design
not a course but
https://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B0CDBQ3674
https://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B09KC4DJLQ
https://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B0C6JMCLY3

>>7037259
Thanks anon i will check these out as well、I havent decided on a coloso course yet

>>7036723

anyone?

>>7037296
this?

Know artists that draw more interesting, elaborate bangs and hair?

anyone know of an artist that draws real good feet or shoes? shits be fuckin me up

>>7037328
WanJin Gim

>>7037328
mignon

>>7037302
yoneyama mai
mika pikazo
POKImari

>>7037301
not really, it was a red or pink haired girl

>>7037358
english text?

>>7037358
God I'm in love with this picture

>>7037361
i dont think so, it doesnt matter. Pretty sure someone will post it for any reason in the future

Is it normal to struggle with rendering? Just curious.
My rendering is lacking.

>>7037358

>>7037373
thanks, but i fucking finally found it.

>>7037389
Thanks for sharing, I wish this one was in english. Drawing rendering hair well is a talent.

>>7037406
i don't think so, its more importantto know how to use the tools imo, for example how to use different layer modes, effects etc...

>>7032463

>>7032463

good night /asg/

I don't think I'm going to make it.

>>7035713
>>7036806
:(

>>7037859
Looks cute. THat's all that matters.

>>7036950

>>7038019
This is nice、also easier to do. Do you have one for feet?

>>7038022
feet and hands are the same thing

>>7038049
Glad to see other clearly human posters on this board.

>>7038022
lmao. you seriously could only learn from basic bitch youtube shorts??

>>7019267
Got myself mechanical pencil. There's no going back.

>7038056
>7038049
(you)

>>7038252
Cool. I love how people made fun of your first attempts and now you're mogging all these nodraws with your studies.

>>7037722
source on these artists?

>>7038342
https://twitter.com/MorryEvans
https://twitter.com/erugotto
https://twitter.com/fkey123

How can I implement something like pic related into my process?

Did this artist learn to sculpt his models in blender just to setup his scenes?

>>7038554
>Did this artist learn to sculpt his models
heh

>>7038554
>Did this artist learn to sculpt his models in blender just to setup his scenes?
If he did he would be making a lot more money doing 3d instead, go to cgpeers and download shit

>>7038577
>3d
>money

lol I can literally sculpt that good tell me where I can go for money

>>7038586
America

>>7038586
why are you larping,
go on post something you've "sculpted"

>>7038554
check out はらけんし's video on yt but unfortunately most of his video are locked into memberships only but most of his workflow utilized blender and even clipstudio's 3d models

>>7037722
what's your advice on drawing eyes?
should i straight up study stylized or realistic first?

>>7035311
Not sure if this anon is still here, but what is this triangle method for mapping the face called? It looks useful

>>7039000
i still don't really know, hence the study
i think it helps if you are aware of the parts/forms of real eyes so you know what certain stylized marks are trying to represent, i don't think the basic structure is too complicated

>>7039040
thanks, anon
was randomly practicing eyes lately
it doesnt help that im not yet used to screenless tablets

>>7032463
can someone pls help me find pic related's videos?
I think he was called "ksk" or "qsq"

>>7039057
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-Jr7aYlF7I

>>7038554
Oh, so that's why all his art looks so lifeless

>>7038554
Valid way to do things but realize you're never gonna grow as a drasftman having such a process.

hows' my first attempt at coping goiing

>>7039125

>>7039125
>>7039145
I can see you're being mindful with your CSI strokes, so good job with that. The facial features look horrible though. Use more guidelines.

>>7039157
>The facial features look horrible though.
is there a way to fix them now or should I do better next time?

>>7039208
Of course you can fix them now, most drawings are never done in one go. Post the original.

>>7038308
thats his copy, when he isnt copyinf¡ his drawing are worst then a toddler

>>7039240
and? do you think all art is made from imagination?
>then
learn English, subhuman

>>7039250
>learn English
никoгдa

>>7039254
>>7039240
>>7039250
nta but
>learn English
>決して

>>7039125
>>7039145
>>7039208
SEEEEEEEEEEEEEX

>>7032463
just lol
guy can't even stand himself because he's so insufferable

the new guy is just as dense
enjoy your great wall of suffering lol

>>7039453
so /asg/ is run by discordtroons too? like dad i will guess that they can't draw for shit too

>>7039471
I posted that and I can't draw a stick figure

We're all trannies here who are into anime I'm wearing thigh high socks and a cute skirt rn uwu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnu4It9RNHc

LOUD NOISE!

>>7039471
That has nothing to do with /asg/, this is a screenshot about some popular art server (Violet Clovers). I have no idea why anon is bringing this here.

>>7039494
because magic man is soooo insufferable that he has to take a break perpetually from himself and go back to staring at his white wall.
and people drink the kool-aid too it's pretentious and intolerable.
it's too funny I had to post it.
the jokes really do write themselves.

lot of Krenz studies here that I haven't seen elsewhere pretty useful
facebook com/KrenzArtwork/photos_albums

What is it about /asg/ that gets people so angry?
At least anons here draw

>>7039595
You leak and start giving bad advice everywhere else

>>7039597
>Taking literally any advice from this board
You only have yourself to blame. Jannies can't even be assed to replace the broken sticky

>>7039598
/beg/ doesn't know any better so the blame really doesn't fall on them unless they've been lurking /ic/ for months before posting their first work, which I doubt they do

>>7039598
The fact some youtuber made more progress in a few months compared to the vast majority of this general’s residents is embarrassing. You’re a containment thread for a reason

>>7039478
>>7039499
>>>/trash/

Why do you guys want to copy somene else's style rather than make your own? Not judging just curious.

>>7039779
False premise? No one is trying to become someone else's clone here.
By studying art you like you get to consciously affect the look of your art, so in essence /asg/ residents do make their own style. This isn't unique to this general either, most artists do that whether they recognize it or not.

>>7039849
>/asg/ residents do make their own style
press x to doubt

>>7019267
I should really think more about the details of what I'm drawing before starting more.
This would have turned out way better if I just visualized a tighter grip, of course it looks bad like this.

>>7019267
It's so over.

>>7039869
You need gesture, your drawings are too stiff. You don't need to commit to final lines so quick, especially traditionally.

>>7039882
I've always hated that stiffness about the way I draw. Gonna try and tackle that issue.

>>7037859
how much are you drawing

It's crazy but if you think about it 30 drawings a day is 900 drawings a month and 10,800 drawings in a year. If nothing else mileage really adds up.

>>7040166
>30 drawings a day
Had to be /asg/

>>7040176
One random page of Loomis or Taco has like, six figures on the page. You saying you can't copy that five times?

>>7039882
Something about choosing "stiff" as the main critique of that drawing gave me quite the laugh.

>>7040378
let him spend years doing gesture drawing without even knowing the very basics of drawing 3d shapes or worse observation

how am i doing

Practicing my shapes and line weight, still struggling with overall perspective/sense of space and placing feet down


>>7039021
It's basically lining up the angle of the outer eyelid with the chin, projecting a triangle onto the face that follows the line of the brow, so you can line up both eye corners and make the eyes match better, it definitively helped me when i started using it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjHpp3ou3uo

>>7040552
Pretty good!

>>7040726
nice appeeru interestint proportion choice. Left hand looks a little weird like its not actually where it should be looks nice tho

>>7040726
Thanks for the advice and the video! I'm struggling with the head in general atm so this helps

Also you have very good lines and shapes, it looks amazing!
How did you learn and what courses/resources do you recommend if you don't mind me asking?

>>7035713
am i retarded? is this a feature csp has oor

May have already been mentioned this thread but what was that one book that got popular on here a few months ago? It was from a mangaka or someone similar but the approach was pick 3(?) artists and then spend 3 months referencing their work
Would be nice to have to try out, currently a neet with no responsibilities so I wanna see how far I can go before I force myself to get a job

>>7040813
>>7040813
I don't really have any specific resources I could point you to desu, my learning is very sporadic and I think getting better is a culmination of improving at the fundamentals and learning all the little nuances in the head and strategies to help you construct it. Keep looking for good tutorials and study good references that show the shape of the head well like the asaro head, learn why you're using guidelines instead of just copying them blindly, and you'll get better.

critique my wip please

>>7040959
flat pelvis, a few lines indicating the form might help but more likely the silhouette is off too

>>7040961
considering im going to cover it with a skirt and then big side fabric things should i continue to scratch at it or just move on

>>7040962
try drawing a construction box approximating the pelvis even if you put a skirt over it, try to feel where the form turns

>>7040964
ill try that thank you

>>7040966
Can't take her seriously when she has her nips in full view

>>7039219
>Post the original.

>>7040726

>>7040378
>>7040383
Then offer your own critique instead of being snarky. Him getting more conscious of what gesture entails is bound to make him realize more drawing fundamentals.
>or worse observation
You mean what he's been doing with his studies for awhile now?

Hope you realize making comments like these just make you look like wounded begs. Artists who feel good about themselves don't waste their time shitting on others.

>>7039240
pyw nigger lover

>>7041010
The issue with your head on the right is that it's flat and features are drawn as symbols. You should definitely get familar with a basic construction style and practice that on the side.
Also try to exaggerate the split below the ribcage for both figures, especially the one on the right.

>>7040888
yes
https://twitter.com/heytaroh/status/1624241179763277824

https://youtu.be/MJDtQTTAogk
Here's actual evidence for you. If you wanna learn how to draw anime, you draw anime, simple as. Stop copying 3DPD until you burn out, draw what you want to draw, and have fun with it.
And after you get to a certain point with anime girls, THEN you find an anatomy book, and expand to proper figure drawing. Being able to give your figures cute faces will motivate you to try harder.

>>7041014
thank you, but can i hear a reasoning?

>>7041064
holy shit that seems useful as hell. how do I access it? can't read jp

>>7041055
maybe I should start practicing faces since it's my weak spot and leave full body stuff for later?

>>7041098
Depends on how much time you can draw daily. If you only do heads you might fall into some sort of floating heads comfort zone. I'd still try to practice drawing the figure as well.

>>7041098
Notice how in your ref, the head is at a slight upward angle.
Here's an idea - overlay your sample (maybe scale it a bit so it fits the outline of your drawing) and trace it on a separate layer. You will instantly see all the issues, and that will help you internalize them.

>>7041017
not my problem if he doesn't work on learning what he has no clue about, you don't do observation in 30 seconds, that is gesture and they focus on different things. but let him keep practicing bad habits from doing gestures without any figure knowledge and reinforcing that instead, i bet it will do wonders for him in a week compared to taking the time to learning how to simplify a figure, take the time to measure and learn proportions, check the eye level, pay attention to how muscles turn and twist, after all we are in the rush rush century and who has time to spend more than one hour on a drawing anyway, doing a few crap gesture drawings with no fundamentals backing it will net you the same accumulated knowledge at the end of the day anyway or so i heard from seasoned veterans around here

>>7041143
>you don't do observation in 30 seconds
He's clearly made observational studies that took longer than 30sec though: >>7038252

To convey to someone that they first need to sketch a gesture / construction before committing to final lines is a valid advice as many beginners somehow believe that they need to draw the final result right away, probably inspired by videos of pros they watch. There was literally nothing wrong with this advice and your knee-jerk rambling falls flat.

>>7041161
So don't tell him to do gestures right away when they can't even draw what they want to to begin with

>>7041098

>>7041164
You're just completely misunderstanding and hung up over what you think gesture means in that context. No one recommended him to spend weeks filling a sketchbook with nothing but useless gestures.

>>7041167
I agree it will be useless without any fundie knowledge independent of him spending a week or a day on it, so why even recommend that at this point, reinforce bad habits?

>>7041171
>reinforce bad habits
... So loosely sketching gestural & structural lines is a bad habit now? Have you ever drawn traditionally before? Do you want him to keep digging his pencil lead deep into the paper right away? Please think for a bit.

>without any fundie knowledge
Anon could indeed learn about basic construction and ingrain basic proportions if his goal is to draw Saber from imagination yes. So why didn't you convey this to him earlier?

>>7041179
Just because you're drawing loosely doesn't mean he won't reinforce wonky proportions and anatomy habits. What would it cost to learn proportions and anatomy then do gesture with them in mind to reinforce those studied proportions and anatomy
>Anon could indeed learn about basic construction and ingrain basic proportions if his goal is to draw Saber from imagination yes. So why didn't you convey this to him earlier?
Why did you tell him to do gesture when he isn't satisfied with his drawing yet, why not say to him to study the stuff he needs to be able to draw and then do gesture? The amount of /beg/s stuck doing gesture for the sake of gesture when they can't even draw anything is astounding, so maybe don't just say someone to do gesture because /beg/s can be clueless and tunnel vision on that and wonder why their figure hasn't improved a month in

>>7041189
I think he's started like a week ago? To me it's good that he focuses on drawing his subject of interest, no matter how good or bad it turns out, he's getting mileage with his tools and his observational skills all while keeping motivation high. These are part of the "fundies" you keep bringing up.
>Just because you're drawing loosely doesn't mean he won't reinforce wonky proportions and anatomy habits.
You frankly sound like someone who's never drawn traditionally before, and more importantly, someone who should not try to teach others. You're acting as if people should start mindlessly drilling anatomy on day 0 before attempting to make any mark on their paper... This kind of idealism is damaging and has caused many people on this board to turn into crabs who do nothing but practice "fundamentals".

I see your point about begs following Proko advices and mindlessly grinding gestures and whatnot and I agree that it's bad, but once again that's not what was conveyed and I highly doubt that's how anon understood it either.
Think back about what you were like 1 week into your drawing journey. You need to stop treating people like they're mentally inept.

>>7041211
>mindless drilling anatomy
Never said that at any point, you don't drill. You learn what you don't know so that you now know and can apply it on your drawing, it's not rocket science, it's basic learning progress of a skill. Where did you even get the idea of drilling

>>7041218
You're not discussing in good faith and seem to enjoy making arguments out of nothing just to stay on top. Back to the initial point: if you have so much energy to waste, then use it to help newcomers instead of being disingenuous.

>>7041223
I'm not the one telling the guy to do gestures when he can't do observation drawings to begin with, I said plenty why this would be a bad idea and you didn't refute any of it because you know better and I know you know better so just don't tell him to do gestures and leave him at that

>>7041228
An underdrawing and gestural lines (aka sketching) are what he needs when doing imagination work and I will maintain this point. If you disagree then so be it.

>>7041211
>You need to stop treating people like they're mentally inept.
People still fall for scam martial art teachers and you can't fully blame the people for believing a guy who is a good talker selling the people what they have no clue about on how to get better at fighting

Some studies

>>7041294
how2gitgud at legs like you

>>7041300
study legs

>>7041300
I don't think I'm qualified to give any advice, but copying your favourite artists and also practising the fundamentals is what I do. Maybe it can work for you too.

>>7041017
No, I will not be offering my own critique because I'm not going to commit to teaching saberanon figure drawing from first principles; he needs loomis and several thousand more hours of practice.
I will however shit on retarded crits being offered. "stiff", lmao.

>>7041064
figured it out with yandex and holy shit this is a game changer for background/perspective. thx bro

New Bread

>>7041462
>>7041462
>>7041462

>>7041073
bottom left: mouth should be more to the right
bottom center-left: mouth should be lower
bottom center-right: mouth should be lower and more to the left

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