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How do hentai artist draw so well? What do they study/practice?
They all seem to have a similar style and high skills.

>> No.7027716
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7027716

>>7027713
triangles in lineart.
thank me later

>> No.7027719

>>7027713
They sacrifice their will and organic self-understanding to obtain rapid generic perfection. It's something cultural.

>> No.7027720

>>7027716
Can you put me an example, master?

>> No.7027722

>>7027713

A lot of them just ex animators in their mid 40s.

>> No.7027726

>>7027713
...Are we really going to jerk off the sexually repressed Japanese ?
If you want such level of sexual art from the west, apply the same level of class repression as the Asians.

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>>7027720
i just highlighted some of them but you can see the author had a "Simple" lineart, then added triangles where they looked good pretty much
If lineart is key of manga art, triangle placement is key of lineart

>> No.7027729

They keep drawing when westerners give up.

>> No.7027730
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7027730

in this example i simply added a bunch of triangles and suddenly the lineart looks way more refined

>> No.7027732

Who cares about the line art? What about composing the rest of the comic?

>> No.7027734

>>7027730
>>7027716
>add triangles in lineart
>because you normally don't use triangle shaped stuff, you have to willingly add them
This is some deep autism. None of you fucks are ever going to learn to fucking draw goddamn

>> No.7027735

>>7027732
anon... It's hentai comics. How much where you expecting from the story

>> No.7027736

>>7027734
hes right tbdesu

>> No.7027739
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7027739

picrel

>> No.7027741

>>7027730
wow adding detail makes something look more refined what a revelation

>> No.7027744

>>7027730
>>7027727
Naruhodo

>> No.7027746

they draw, there is no secret, it is quite interesting to see how someone learns how to get good at drawing by his past doujins

>> No.7027751

>>7027732
It's hentai. I read it for the art, if I want to fap I'd see a threesome of street fighter female cosplayers.

>> No.7027763

>>7027713
>>7027727
>>7027730
your not fucking around、first time I noticed this only just now. Please impart some more knowledge literally taking notes as I look the hentai I like with this added worldview

>> No.7027779

>>7027713
>>7027716
>>7027720
>>7027727
>>7027730
This might be the most retarded /ic/ moment yet

>> No.7027780

>>7027779
>>7027741
>>7027734
>Xitter artists trying to hide their secrets
This thread needs to live

>> No.7027782

>>7027780
nta but I realized the triangles lineart thing by myself, it's not really an obscure secret

>> No.7027788
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7027788

>>7027763
another thing i noticed is that most skilled mangaka seem to have a "Repertoire" of lines, ost noticeable one that comes to mind is chainsaw man, you find these line shapes in every clothing he draws
You pretty much need to engrave into your brain specific line shapes and where to use them, not many, but like, a bunch of "Go to" lines
I won't attempt to replicate this because line is a very personal thing and i can't do it manga style

>> No.7027789
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7027789

color wive

>> No.7027791

>>7027788
fujimoto is fucking terrible at art, he made a whole manga about how he has never been good and he has said multiple times he doesn't like drawing and would rather direct movies

terrible example

>> No.7027793

>>7027791
He always wanted to make art, he said it in his short stories compilations. He started doing oil paintings, you fucking retarded.

>> No.7027798

>>7027793
No you are, he already said he wishes someone else would draw the manga while he writes the scripts, he doesn't enjoy drawing at all and it shows in the latest chapters that look like abosolute shit

>> No.7027802
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7027802

i really hate how lineart is literally the only fundie where you get it when you get it. I've tried "studying" linearts from the weeb shit I read, but it's all so random. sure they sometimes follow the guide of closer = thicker or thicker on focuse lines, bust most of the time it makes no sense, like why is the fucking SHOULDER THINNER THAN THE FUCKING ELBOW WHY IS THERE JUST NO LINE THER EIN THE PART OF THE ARM AND WHY DOES IT LOOK GOOD fucking bullshit man

>> No.7027831

>>7027730
>added a bunch of triangles
You mean fucking shadows ?
Why the fuck are you calling it "triangles" how autistic are you
Is this a joke ?

>> No.7027841

The reason you retards can't do "lineart" is first of all, because your knowledge of art is so pathetic and anime focused that you actually call it "lineart" instead of DRAWING
You dont need to learn how to lineart
You need to learn HOW TO DRAW

>you find these line shapes in every clothing he draws

Its called cross contours. Are you fucking serious right now.
Those lines explain the topology of a surface, separately from how light and shade can also help explain the topology and lighting.
You dont have to memorize them, you invent them on the fly based on what you want to communicate about the topology of the surface

Is the level of actual art education on this board really so low that people dont even know basic drawing terminology ?

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7027856

I'm sure there's some kind of organized crabbing from a discord server or something, there's a bunch of weirdly retarded and homogenous replies in the thread after i merely stated some (not so obvious) stuff about lineart. Feelsbad.
I'd ask you fags to pyw but i mean, no way you're going to post it lmao

>>7027841
why so angry? Pyw and i'll respond seriously

>> No.7027861

>>7027719
go back to tumblr tranny

>> No.7027873

>>7027713
Looks like absolute shit to me. I hate how porn artists feel the need to emphasize private parts in every panel, like nipples heavily protruding through a top or a camel toe being extremely visible.

Maybe this stuff pleases low IQ porn addicts, but for me, subtlety and restraint can create a far more alluring picture.

>> No.7027894

>>7027798
Bullshit
First, you have no proof
Second, if he wanted, knowing how big Chainsawman is, he would have easily found somebody willing to do it.
Third, you are retarded.
Fourth, he went to an art college. Was he expecting anything else than drawing the rest of his career?

>> No.7027898

>>7027873
It's not because of the porn, I actually find disgusting how graphic they can be. It is more for the quality if the art (which needless to say, much better than anything you have ever done). But hey, if you want to keep sucking Picasso 's dick or whatever faggot snob artist you like to fap at, do it, not my fucking business.

>> No.7027899

>>7027873
>[OPINION]
Very compelling post

>> No.7027901

>>7027856
Retarded than think everything needs to work for everyone.
Not organized, just brain rot 4chan users.

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7027904

>>7027730
Flapjack kinda applied this idea. It gave it kind of a woodcut look or something that I liked.

>> No.7027905

>>7027894


>you have no proof

During a recent interview with Japanese publisher Shueisha, Chainsaw Man creator Tatsuki Fujimoto revealed that he wouldn’t mind it if he stopped drawing his mega-popular shonen series entirely, so he could focus solely on penning its off-the-rails story.

While discussing how the iconic Studio Ghibli director Hayao Miyazaki halted his retirement to get his final film How Do You Live (aka The Boy and the Heron) across the finish line, the Chainsaw Man creator was asked if he thinks manga and anime creators ever truly retire. Fujimoto responded by saying he would like to follow in the footsteps of Kaguya-Sama: Love Is War creator Aka Akasaka, who is no longer illustrating his own sequel series, Oshi No Ko.

“I thought that was good. ‘I want to do that too!’ Yes. I definitely think it’s more fun that way,” Fujimoto told Shueisha. “Of course, there’s the joy of balancing the story with the art, and I think there’s also the joy of just the story, but if it’s just the art, I think I’ll end up in a narrow world when I deliver it to everyone.”

>> No.7027909

>>7027905
He just said that he prefered it in case he isn't at the level, not that he doesn't want to do it or that he hates drawing.

>> No.7027911
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>>7027713
Japs just save up some pocket money and take a manga course. That's why even the work of the worst artists looks 'correct'

>> No.7027914

>>7027831
>>7027779
Sincerely I'm fucking baffled
I had to read four-five times the whole exchange because my brain couldn't accept they aren't speaking ironically
I'm kinda done with /ic/. I can't accept this stupidity anymore

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>>7027909
have you read Look Back? You don't have to have two neurons to understand that the whole thing is he venting about how frustrating drawing is for him

>> No.7027930

>>7027901
i'm sure m8. too homogenous and too retarded. 100% organized

>> No.7027976
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7027976

im starting to get more precise with my construction and making shits parallel feels nice

>> No.7027987

>>7027713
Because they draw a lot everyday as a living. There are a few Japanese artist I follow and sometimes they post some of their studies. Studies including anatomy, perspective, and composition.

>> No.7028025

>>7027856
>i'll respond seriously
Respond seriously to what ?
Im not asking you anything
Im pointing out that you are literally retarded
I dont need a "serious response"
I dont think you are capable of actual intelligent thought

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7028042

>>7028025
so no work?

>> No.7028053

>>7027713
Most hentai artists aren’t very good. You just have poor standards

>> No.7028069

>>7027713
how are there so many random doujins with god tier art uploaded to exhentai every single day? Are these artists all random nobidies in japan? Or is it confirmation bias?

>> No.7028076

>>7027779
This. Misunderstanding ambient occlusion this badly is hilarious.

>> No.7028092

>>7027730
you didnt add triangles, you added basic occlusion you dumbass
what no fundies does to a mfer, they begin making shit up just to avoid admiting fundies > random doodling

>> No.7028099

So tutorials/resources on how to draw ambient occlusion? not painting i just care about lineart

>> No.7028124

>>7028099
Do you actually understand the concept of a shadow ?

>> No.7028132

>>7027713
they are horny
if you dick isn't hard when you draw means that you are weak, you skill is weak and you family blood is weak

>> No.7028149

>>7028069
>>7028076
>>7028092
organized brainrot

>> No.7028202

>>7028124
no, talk to me more about this shadow things sounds interesting.

>> No.7028218

>>7027730
>He just found out lineweights
Begs are truly amusing

>> No.7028285

>>7028132
“Because all jocks think about is sports. All nerds think about is sex.”

>> No.7028397

>>7027734
>>7027730
>>7027727
>triangles
it's called ambient occlusion you stupid fucks

>> No.7028440

>>7027713
if you developed an insane, all-consuming obsession with a fetish, you too would actually draw something instead of bitching on 4chan

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7028463

>op is the only one who posted his work. i'm inclined to listen to him more desu

>> No.7028466

fuck you faggots i want to learn more about triangles and occlusion isnt even a real word

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7028775

>>7027713
>>7028466
>>7028202
>>7028099

these "triangles" are just ambient occlusion. Think of any two intersecting lines and make a hard shadow (or "triangle" as people here are calling it) where they meet. For whatever reason, hentai artists always use it.

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7028777

>>7028775
heres another example

>> No.7028785

>>7028777
where are the triangles?

>> No.7028788

>>7028785
Are you blind? They're in between your balls.

>> No.7028789

>>7028777
Ah, yes, I can see those balls on the right look much more erotic, thanks. I'm serious.
>>7028785
>two [or more] intersecting lines... where they meet.
in the middle of them, where they stack. You can see it forms a hard shadow. If you still don't get it you don't deserve to be spoonfed

>> No.7028804

>>7028149
Are you seriously unaware that line-art is just stylized ambient occlusion?
Seriously?

>> No.7028830
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7028830

I can't believe this board can be so retarded. yes, it's called ambient occlusion, wow, did you learn that from a fucking youtube tutorial? what a bunch of niggers.
triangles are one of the most used shapes in "Standard artstyle" manga to depict AO and for me, it's the most intuitive way to think about it.
these fucking /beg/s man. so many of them.

>> No.7028848

>>7027802
I think its because its such a mix of style+rules. The closer = thicker and thicker on focused lines is true, also outside lines being thicker over inside lines... then you add lines in shadow are thicker than lines that are in the light, then you layer on top personal preference. So you have multiple filters that dictate the line weight, and its all fucky until it clicks.

>> No.7028853

>>7028830
Your idea that this is limited to triangles, or that this particular shape is preferred by artists is simply ridiculous, that's all.

>> No.7028863

>>7028853
still no work posted itt kek
embarassing

>> No.7028865

this thread is amazing
fucking triangles, lmao

>> No.7028887

this triangle shit is peak /ic/ permabeg dunning kruger brainrot

here, ill throw ya a hand
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fLV5ezO64w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gmt6wtU9tUQ

>> No.7028890

>>7028804
>ambient occlusion
stop making up terms

>> No.7028891

>>7027727
>not drawing a bermuda triangle from the nips to the cameltoe
ngmi

>> No.7028897

>>7028890
>thinking ambient occlusion doesnt exist
I bet you don't even reticulate your splines, baka.

>> No.7028898

>>7028397
>>7028466
>>7028775
>>7028777
>>7028785
>>7028788
>>7028804
>>7028853
>>7028865
>>7028887
UMMMMMHGHHHHH ACKTUALLY /IC/ ITS CALLED AMBHALENT OCCCCLOOOOJHOON, U HEAE THAT? AMBOOOOONT OKKKKOLLLOIUUUUUSION

this is why you were, and deserved to be, bullied in highschool. Nobody gives a fuck that you memorized some faggot latin words.


Now thats of the way can OP please continue im actually learning in this thread

>> No.7028899

>>7028897
it's the electrical infetterance getting to him

>> No.7028901

>>7028897
Probably doesn’t even scrimp the folly assets. But in all honesty, foreshooning the 5th wall requires /pro/ skills.

>> No.7028905

>>7028891
>>7028897
>>7028899
>>7028901
stop samefagging, none of your posts are funny

>> No.7028916

>>7028898
chill, it's just a funny way of putting it. besides, it's a pretty basic technical term, do you call a pencil "a little scribbly guy" too?

>> No.7028924

>>7028916
no retard I call it a pencil, I dont memorize latin terms in my free time

>> No.7028928

>>7028924
Just because a word ultimately has its traceable parentsge back to Latin doesnt mean that its now a Latin term. Do you just not speak English at all, then? Do you have any idea how many words are sourced directly from Latin? If unfamiliar words are scary to you just say so.

>> No.7028931

>>7028928
>let me go into the history of latin words
nobody cares

>> No.7028933

>>7028916
Ambient occlusion is not an art term. It has nothing to do with art. It's a computer graphics term. People were drawing light and shadows just fine before computer graphics existed

>> No.7028935

>>7028931
That's not what that anon said, but ok.

>> No.7028936

>>7028935
>>7028928
>let me pretend to be a different person

>>7028933
hey look another latin nerd


Can one of you get back on topic and show how these triangles can be applied for drawing attractive anime girls or are you going to keep trying to teach this thread latin

>> No.7028944

>>7028936
>how these triangles can be applied
and this is how you know ic is full of retards
inb4 triangles becomes the new retard bait meme

>> No.7028945

>>7028936
This.

>>7027716 anon started to share some of the secrets of creating appealing lineart, helping myself and others understand. And then the gatekeepers came in to try to shut it down. Are you afraid others will learn to draw well? Is that threatening to you? wtf If you were really secure in your own art production, you you wouldn’t fear other people learning about these apparent “trade secrets.” Not sure why it has to be so secret. I’m sure there’s much more he could teach us, but he probably got abducted by the /ic/ police for daring to attempt to enlighten us mere mortals. Fuck you gatekeepers for derailing the thread with occult Latin nonsense. I want to learn to draw. Apparently these triangles really are a great tool and you gatekeeping nerds don’t want us to learn of your other little secret art weapons.

>> No.7028946

>>7028944
>subhumans masturbating over how they memorized words from a dead language
le heckin based!

>someone asks for how to use an interesting technique for their art
NOOO IC IS BAD NOW


shut the fuck up crab

>> No.7028956
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7028956

holy shit you are right guys, I have transcended

>> No.7028960

>>7028956
You can go deeper than THAT, anon. Transcend the human form. Embrace the Three Side Truth fully.

>> No.7028964
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7028964

where them triangles at

>> No.7028965

sex with polygons

>> No.7028966

>>7028964
Her eyelashes, anon. So many triangles. That's where the secret sauce is, the secret programming that makes sure you subconsciously like the picture! You stare at her eyes, but her triangles stare back at you!

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>>7028966
Nice try but I know you're gate keeping the ovals from me. Now tell me how to apply ovals to my art before I call you names

>> No.7028969

>>7028968
You don't have the security clearance to know about the ovals. You already know too much simply knowing that triangles exist in the first place.

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7028979

>>7028898
The point is not what the lineart emulates. The point is that it has nothing to do with triangle shapes specifically.
>>7028863
Pic attached.

>> No.7028980
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7028980

Triangles are one of the most important shapes when drawing and i'd like to see the work of these niggers calling it obvious or dumb.
No wonder that they keep talking about ambient occlusion, it's a prevalent term in those retarded clickbaity youtube tutorials that you guys watch instead of drawing lmao. Never once heard of it in my academy, while triangles were everywhere.
Obviously, it's not like every shape you add must be a triangle, but rather, good shapes are based on triangles.
It's an easier way to think about it, try to look for the triangle, then for other interesting shapes. In picrel, i was thinking about triangles during each of these different "Linearts"

>>7028964
even with its softer shadows it has plenty of them, you just can't look at a drawing

>> No.7028985

>>7028980
ah, an atelierfag here now to complete the NPC copyturd collection.
no wonder 0 things of value was ever shat out from your circle jerk.

>> No.7028986

>>7028980
okay but can you explain the ovals

>> No.7028990

Why does /ic/ hate art so much?

>> No.7028991

And the shapetards are coming here thinking they're ever welcome. Remember that their crazed babblings, schizophrenic simplifications are what inevitably leads to the insanity of 'muh style' abstract 'expressionism'.
These retards killed art.

>> No.7028993

>>7028990
The rule on 4chan is that every single board hates the subject it is named after. /v/ hates video games, /ic/ hates doing art, etc. etc. etc.

>> No.7028997

>>7028990
the triangle is the symbol that lets the malevolent spirits across.

>> No.7029019
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7029019

I’ve hacked the government database and obtained secret knowledge.
Triangles.

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7029020

I'm done with this board. This is really too much to handle for my sanity

>> No.7029021

>>7029020
/ic/ - Paranormal

>> No.7029025

>>7029020
See you tomorrow.

>> No.7029028

>>7027713
>ugly fat breasts
>ugly fat pussy
ok coomer

>> No.7029031

>>7028968
>ovals
fucking hell back to square one

>> No.7029036

>>7028956
>>7028960
>>7028964
>>7028968
>>7028969
>>7028979
>>7028985
>>7028986
>>7028991
>>7028997
>>7029019
>>7029031
why do crabs try so hard to be funny, most people here can do it effortlessly but crabs always have to go over the top to try and fit in, and still fail miserably

Let the triangle anon preach, hes clearly got something of value and even posted his work for the thread, but the latin and other spammers have contributed nothing but empty messages and ""jokes""

>> No.7029044

>>7029036
>Let the triangle anon preach, hes clearly got something of value and even posted his work for the thread
t.triangle man
would you listen to >>7028979 or the guy who drew a literal pile of shit

>> No.7029063

>>7029044
Id listen to the triangle guy because he actually fucking posted his work you no draw retard. What level of retard must you be on to think posting a random artists lineart is some le epic own

>> No.7029066
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7029066

currently applying triangles

>> No.7029068

>>7029036
taking everything so seriously is the real crab

>> No.7029070

>>7029068
repeating oval and ambient dickhole over and over isnt funny retard, id say u need to be over 18 but I have a strong feeling the many crabs here are just jaded 30+s who gave up

>> No.7029071

>>7029066
le hecking funny dude! up pooted!

>> No.7029072

>>7029070
idk mocking dunning kreugers who don't understand basic concepts is pretty funny

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7029073

i'm learning something new

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7029078

>>7028830
Don't bother. You're trying to communicate with the third most retarded board on 4chan.

>> No.7029096

>>7029072
this

>> No.7029104

>>7027726
Seething westoid

>> No.7029105

>>7027856
You're giving them way too much credit by calling them crabs. They are genuinely retarded, zoomer's brains have a reduced capacity since their conception. Being regarded is their normal state of being

>> No.7029106

>>7027976
>precise
You didn't even get the angle right, permabeg

>> No.7029131

chat how is this thread real

>> No.7029157

bump

>> No.7029208

>>7027716
>>7027727
>>7027730
>>7027739
>>7028775
Holly fuck im actually learning something here without reading the sticky
Why can't more thread be like this?

>> No.7029209

>>7028785
Made me snort kek

>> No.7029351

>>7028898
>>7028924
>>7028931
>>7028936
you will never have a real education you room temperature ESL macaco primate

>> No.7029356

>>7029351
>>7029209
>>7029157
>>7029131
>>7029078
>>7029073
>>7029072
samefag

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7029361

>they don't agree with me?
>heh, must be samefagging

>> No.7029363

>>7029021
At least /x/ has more value.

>> No.7029369

Ambient occlusion is a term for 3D graphics. I guess you could apply it to 2D art. Its also not that esoteric of a term. Bizarre how people itt are getting upset over it.
Also the triangles thing seems like a /beg/ trap. Hentai and manga artists vary their line weight heavily and use it to convey shadows. Where hard lines meet or overlap they tend to thicken. To convey softness such as with cleavage the lines get super thin and even disappear.
Dumbing it all down to "just add triangles" is tiktok tier art advice that may make your art look "better" short term but isn't actually helping you connect what you see to what you draw. Its building a bad habit.

>> No.7029375

>>7029369
To add onto this, any two points create a line. Any three points create a triangle. The reason you see triangles all over art thats been highlighted is because its a very easy shape to find in everything. It's not some hidden technique.

>> No.7029377

This is why /asg/ should never existed. That general is a plague to this board. If that shithole general never existed, board quality would immensely improved

>> No.7029388

>>7028775
>>7027727
>>7027730
so laughable and retarded, you all have no clue

>> No.7029403

>>7029377
This board is fucking dead. The Draw thread and Figure drawing thread are over a month old.
I remember draw threads having an average of 1-3 days before needing to be replaced.

>> No.7029431

>>7029063
The guy said it's his own work tho. What makes you inclined to believe that it's not, is it because it goes against your narrative? Your triangular narrative?

>> No.7029443

>>7029403
But we’ve got beg/int! And generals for furries and pedophiles! This is a lively, degenerate place.

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>>7029369
>>7029375
Ding ding ding, we have a winner. For any confused begs in this thread, this is the only thing you should be reading.
>>7029377
I also concur with this, /asg/ is the biggest beg trap in this board. For all the proposed hypothetical benefits it gives, it will set you back tenfold. And take that from someone who did pic related. Unless you know what you're getting from it, blindly copying something one to one won't help you as much as you think, especially if that's all you do.

>> No.7029465

>ambient occlusion
>shadows
>etc
Yes, yes, but at the end of the day, the flat 2D shapes are what's important. If thinking of things in terms of shape placement yields better results than focusing on how accurately the drawing reflects reality, then you're better off focusing on that. Unless you're going for pure photographic realism, if you're drawing something and noticing a graphic shape or clear curve, you're better off leaning into that and pushing it than worrying if everything is exactly accurate.

>> No.7029472

>>7027727
>>7027730
Lmao

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>>7027791
He's selectively good. Guy has the Japanese curse and is dying from drawing so much, with the latest chapters taking a dive, but his art was really good in certain chapters even in early parts of Act 2, and he utilized his scratchy lineart to make the comic look more horror.
>inb4 but he had assistance
Yukinobu Tatsu did some lightwork for his whole page spreads in Act 1, but if we're going to go down that route then so did fucking Miura, with later pages almost entirely done by his staff.
Fugimoto needs to go on hiatus or rehire some more assistants again.

>> No.7029529

>>7027713
>What do they study/practice?
Come on, you know.

>> No.7029539

>>7029072
Same mindset as art teachers and academics who never made it lol
>>7029070
You can tell they only do it out of insecurity and ego, the anons who tried to explain are actually helpful.

>> No.7029606

>>7029377
>>7029403
>>7029461
/HAM/ solves this

>>7029539
Ive learned from the triangle anon, the crabs screaming shitting up the thread i did not

>> No.7029615

>>7028964
are you genuinely fucking stupid? use your eyes retard, they're everywhere. This is why most of /ic/ will stay a permabeg

>> No.7029618

>>7029615
He's being cheeky towards the triangle cultists, dummy

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this entire thread

>> No.7029669

>>7027713
Is there a thing called "weeb fatigue"?
Because that's what I'm feelin' right now.

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7029679

>>7027727
>>7027730
This is called "weighted lines" retard. It's literally the effect of areas with little light, where shapes overlap/fold in onto each other. Line art isn't real in reality, it represent the contour of the forms. Anything that goes "further" around a form is where you place these lines. Many forms that overlap each other adds "weight" to those lines, making them darker and bolder.

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>>7027713
>How do hentai artist draw so well?
some do. but your example is not one of them. this is just another case of you thinking with your dick.
you aren't impressed by the drawings, you're just thinking about her sexual features.

>>7028775
this.
it's not really about triangles. that's a just a very specific way to think about it. it's about AO, but really, it's just about setting emphasis of any kind.

>>7027802
there are no set rules.
in fact there are only things to avoid. basically the goal is to avoid monotone, boring lines.

just like with drawing in general, you have to sell the illusion of the image, this means getting as far away from being perceived as
>a collection of lines
as possible.
this is why setting a few accents or some black fill can already go a long way. see >>7027730.
same if you add even just a single layer of screentone.

if you break it down, these are some of the things you can do:
>varying line strength (advanced)
>accents (like occlusion shadows, or emphasizing specific lines, like outer lines)
>black fill
>tone
>hatching

all of these can help. and it comes down to the style of the artist. but the goal is just to avoid the barebones look of the left side of >>7027730
when the viewer sees the image, they need to believe in whatever it is depicting. beyond just seeing it as a drawing. that's the general goal.

>> No.7029697

For the /beg/s on here
Everytime you see someone on this board talking about a "EXTREMELY SIMPLE TRICK THAT WILL MAKE YOU DRAW GOOD LIKE THOSE HECCKING JAVANESE ARTISTS!!!!¡!!!!" suspect hes full of shit.
Theres no fucking tricks or shortcuts, its just learning how to draw properly.

>> No.7029700

>>7029679
nah man I just see triangles

>> No.7029701

>>7029700
You're wearing triangle tinted glasses

>> No.7029710

>>7029683
tnx

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>>7029701
yeh

>> No.7029744

>>7028905
>>7029036
>>7029070
You could simply not open and read the thread, hide it even.

>> No.7029749

>>7029683
>it's not really about triangles. that's a just a very specific way to think about it

absolutely agreed, the triangles wont suddenly elevate your art but how you use them to emphasize line art will.

>> No.7029808

What I'm wondering is do they add these "triangles" during lineart or is it the final step after everything else?

>> No.7029814

>>7029808
The triangles have been there the entire time, you just have to uncover them

>> No.7029821

>>7029529
Pythagoras? Euclid?

>> No.7029824

>>7029814
Know thyself, thou art acute triangle

>> No.7029877

>>7027713
>They all seem to have a similar style and high skills.

The great ones do. There are plenty that don't. Trust me. It seems the more niche the fetish the worse it can get sometimes.

>> No.7029882

>>7027713
I wish I lived in japan so I could draw cute boys busting loads in sexy women and cute little girls in funny poses and outfits.

>> No.7029891

>>7029824
Aw geez, thanks anon. I consider myself more of an equilateral triangle tho because I only look good at the right angle.

>> No.7029896

you guys are morons

>> No.7029918

>>7028945
anon, the point of learning new words is so that you have access to more information. now that you know what the term for the 'triangles' are you can now look into new ways of learning how to shade, a few of those posts even had links to videos about ambient occlusion. how is that gatekeeping, exactly?

>> No.7029923

where did i talk about hidden secret tricks thoughie desuka? it's just a way to think about it kek

>> No.7029968

None of us are making it...

>> No.7029975

>>7028945
How can you be this fucking dumb?
Please, tell me you are just trolling.

>> No.7029983

this thread made me realize that this board is fucking done

>> No.7030006

>>7027716
>>7027720
>>7027763
This is the most blatant samefagging I've ever seen on this board holy kek.

>> No.7030063

>>7027713
they love drawing sexy things so they draw a lot instead of posting on social media and 4chan
if you loved drawing as much as they did you wouldn't even have time to ask this question

>> No.7030066

>>7027915
goal oriented faggots will literally never be happy

>> No.7030067

>>7030066
Unless they set reasonably achievable goals. "Draw 5 hours today." Draw 5 hours and game for the rest, guilt-free.

>> No.7030105

>>7028933
>computer graphics isnt art
alright

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>79 posters
>179 replies

>> No.7030133

>>7029606
Fuck off no draw

>> No.7030145

>>7029983
There's nowhere else. The entire english speaking internet is like this

>> No.7030250

Where the FUCK can I get a course like this online? Idc if it is in Japanese or not...

>> No.7030262

>>7027727
LOOOOOOL

>> No.7030267

>>7027730
You know a brush from ibis paint to do a lineart like a G-pen lineart?

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>>7030250
Here you go

>> No.7030471

>>7027716
This is useful but I don’t think you actually understand why

>> No.7030480

>>7027911
People really under estimate just how much jap artists study and how much access they have to good resources
They aren’t “just drawing”

>> No.7030482

>>7027713
they trace you literal retard. load clip paint, import model, position, convert to lineart, add bug eyes.

>> No.7030531

>>7028053
This is the truth. Yet here you will be ridiculed and mocked for that kind of comment. By the same anons that bought into the triangle bullshit above.

The only way to get good at construction is to draw from life and apply what you learned in your drawings from imagination.
It doesn't matter how you go about doing this. Wether you spend a day a week dedicated to studies or you do hours here and there. What matters is consistency. You will face many challenges but if you perservere you won't ask any more stupid questions about "how they do it?" Or make claims that "they're just innately more talented".
You'd understand what I'm talking about.

Don't listen to the fools in here. Study and apply your studies.
This takes YEARS but if you can stick to it you'll see results. If you're looking for an easy solution to "git gud fast" you might aswell just give up and find something else to do.

>> No.7030555

>>7028830
Ambient occlusion is just the term for something that does not have any direct light source. It can take any fucking shape you could imagine because all it is is an unlit area. Cracks, folds and whatever else that light won't easily penetrate.
And yes these are BASIC terms you should understand if your goal is to become a good artist.
This board truly is flooded with idiots.
To any anon who truly wants to improve; leave this place.

>> No.7031137

>>7029461
what did you do? I wanted to draw anime and avoided /asg/ figuring that blindly copying using a single method wouldn't help.

>> No.7031147

>>7027713
Source?

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>>7031137
Do you mind posting your work? I'd like to see what level you're at to see what best suits you. But basically don't forsake your fundies and you should really only study others' art if you want to emulate their specific style.
I really only did pic related to practice their inking style and face.

>> No.7031160

>>7031149
I'm a complete beg, just telling me the logic behind copying and reminding me to practice fundies is enough. Thanks.

>> No.7031161

>>7031149
nta but lookin good. if it were me i wouldnt managed to draw that foot