/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

first for femboys

>>7021112
>>7021060
so any advice while I wait for the tablet to come in the mail?

do lefties get shafted?

also I'm watching videos- pressing on the tablet doesn't just start where your mouse currently is, but just starts at a spot on the screen corresponding to a similar spot on the tablet?

>>7021112
Remember:
before criticising any of my work I post, I will require this information about you
1. your full name - name and surname
2. the address of your current residence
3. the address of your workplace
4. your marital status and the name of your spouse, if any
5. your annual wage, before and after tax
6. your license plate
7. your place of birth
8. the names of your parents
9. your credit card number and the expiration date
and finally you MUST post your work.
If but one of these points is not met, or, if I am unable to find a Wikipedia page about you, that matches the information you have given, that lists you as a prominent artist in any artistic field, all your critique directed towards me or my work is invalid and actually the opposite of what you say is true and my work is perfect and devoid of any mistakes.
Also, when you do criticise my work, you can not use any word included in the following list because your post will automatically get filtered by my automatic filtering system. You must treat me like a toddler when you criticise my work or I will cry.
https://rentry.org/za5t5

Let's keep it nice and civil in here, folks.

>>7021128
SHAROTTO!!!

Is Fun With a Pencil really as useless as some posters make it out to be? I'm still focusing on learning observation skills but am wondering if that's a good next step. Free /beg/ art cuz I like you guys

>>7021112
Are you really gonna pretend you're not obsessed with likes, I know most of you faggots desperately try to get a social media following.

>>7021140
no, it has solid info and exercises, just don't get hung up on blook heads and actually make your way through the book.

Do you guys think something like overlaying construction on a reference then trying to copy the ref after is a good practice for someone struggling with simplified mannequins/construction?

>>7021119
I don't see how does being leftie make any difference with a tablet

>>7021152
it is. doing that with muscles and bones is also good. pull up ref of muscle and bones and try to apply them to the other flesh covered ref.

>>7021142
I do care about how many likes my art gets but I feel like I'd be better off if I didn't. I think it gets in the way of my confidence towards drawing too much if I focus too much on how well my pieces do

>>7021142
I don't have a twitter so.. yes? but ok

>>7021152
Industry standards are to trace over, photobash, and add value. None of the art nowadays is purely made from constructions, if you are doing constructions, you are doing either fine arts or doing it to teach howies.

Ignoring the subject matter, would any kind anon be able to redline where the horizon is for this?

How does someone even begin to plan a scene for this without just completely winging the perspective?

how to transport ur traditional sketches onto digital? ive seen people use filters/ overlays (?) to make the dark parts of the trad art into instant line art on digital so you can then color it but idk if i did it right, its only working on the lighter areas (neck region and mouth)

>>7021171
would help if you had better resolution. but it's essentially a gradient map type of problem

>>7021168
This.
Tracing is a tool.
Copying is a tool.
Prompting is a tool.
Prompt Imagineering will be the mainstream industry standard soon.

At work I had some downtime so i used blue pen, my phones camera and a B&W filter. And cropped the image.

Im practicing drawing things and people in perspective (and how to avoid breaking perspective by NOT placing things too far out).
Is the charater/car drawn in accordance to vanishingpoints and THE DrAw 1000 000 000 cUbEs SEXcercise,
Are there any perspective mistakes, major, minor ecc like headposition, angle of the body shoulder placement, proportions being off (not distorted by perspective, just OFF). ,
where did (YOU) Learn your perspectives,

>>7021185
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5orI-eYOPys&list=PLMXbAPr21di8DjTKCE3EoS4KFtNZ-FDnP&index=2

>>7021169
>Ignoring the subject matter
well memed
You will know how to do this after reading basically on book or website on perspective or watching any course on it. So that would be where you start.

doodle to wake up

>>7021191
I like the nose

>>7021191
Try the loomis method for constructing the head, it will make the eye placement easyer

>>7021200
It was a very quick sketch but you are right the eye placement is whaf is off. I couldn't put my finger on it.

Not every sketch will be a banger, was 50/50 on even posting it haha. Thank you for the advice.

are bodies easier to draw than arms and hands? I get praised regularly for how I draw bodies but a common complaint is that I draw the arms and hands like shit

>>7021142
I treat social media fame as one of the metrics of my skill level, I know it's retarded but it's still fun, you can look at the view count going up and all.

Sometimes it goes over 100, that's cool.

>>7021230
nothin wrong with that, I think it's good to compete and have some kinda metric to measure with, just don't let the numbers effect your own creativity or output

>>7021230
one of my drawings on deviantart got 10k views for some fucking reason but it only has 70 likes, I got kinda bummed out after that cause it's apparently a bad ratio

>>7021236
DA doesn't have likes only favorites the ratios there are totally different, don't worry about numbers too much

>>7021189
>>7021169
I've been through all of Perspectitve Made Easy, but the building technique doesnt seem to work here. Is this 4 point perspective instead?

>>7021241
dunno what the problem is

>>7021244
this looks good anon but im feeling filtered, yours looks like 2? point perspective

and >>7021169
looks like 4? if you include the ones receeding at the bottom
is that correct? I still dont know where to play the horizon line and have burned over an hour now just fucking around connecting lines

>>7021230
As long as you know what exactly it measures it's fine.
I've recently done something that puts entirety of my art profile a whole tier below and I find it especially appealing in comparison. It's got 15 times less everything, views, faves, etc. Literally worse performing than when I was posting my beginner sketches.
It's the first time I actually would have liked it if I saw it as made by someone else quality-and-appeal-wise.

>>7021248
it's 3, this is the exact textbook use case for 3 point.

>>7021169
horizon line is meme, you don't neeed it. All you need is feeling how things get smaller when they are further away. On this pic horizon i way under image so you don't see it. It's 3 point perspective with camera looking up. Third vanishing point is more important here. I would start planning this like normal scene and imagine that she laying on floor.

>>7021169
horizon is surface plane. because you do not see ground horizon is not on the picture.

>>7021154
I guess that's fair. Might be easier now that I think of it because you can use the mouse with the other hand.

Is there anything I should do to practice while the tablet is shipping?

le pinterest poses
thoughts?

I won’t be drawing for this thread, either.

>>7021370
i think they look nice but why are you afraid of drawing legs?

any tutorials to render tummies like this?

>>7021398
Reilly method

>thumb starting to get numb
it's fucking over isn't it

Fwap, kinda gave up today cuz of pain

>>7021203
>i suck haha yeah man i wasn’t even gonna post ahaha.. ha..
anon stop being suck a pussy ass bitch.

>>7021426
in this cursed era we don't have OPs reminding people to do their stretches https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUyMNyrOHJQ

>>7021398
This picture is the tutorial
Look at it and then go do the same thing
See, replicate, repeat until sufficient accuracy is attained

>>7021426
I fap every night and never had any carpal problems

>>7021511
I use mouse at least 8 hours a day, fap once or twice a day, draw several hours (use a lot of wrist for hatching) and never had carpal or blister problems. Shrimple as that.

>>7021112
I want to be on the green side, i really do.

>>7021398
just use the airbrush and eraser tool

>>7021350
No, just be aware that drawing on a tablet and on paper is very different
Also use pen stabilization

>>7021244
This is an exageretarateded femur look
>Pic elated
Me thinks the angle of the femur on your (hopefully a femboy) friend is the problem

>>7021169
I'm not good at perspective so i probabbly fc a bit but I tried, most stuff is outside of con of visions so it's getting really distorded.
you will not see such pov with your eyes. as planing smth like this i would use only one vanishing point and call it even.
just imagine that she laying on bed or smth.

done
lots of mistakes, lots of lessons learned
next will be better

>>7021599
legs look way too short
post the reference

>>7021616
Now I see that I got left leg angle wrong

>>7021172

>>7021551
>No, just be aware that drawing on a tablet and on paper is very different
What's the biggest difference?

I am buying a tablet that has no screen on it, I got both Krita (for specifically the tablet) and Paint.NET (which I used before). I know there's pressure sensitivity but I can't really practice that without a tablet I guess.

I assume a pretty big difference is that you look at the screen while you draw with the hand?

>Also use pen stabilization
Shit, I read that Paint.NET doesn't have that.

Hello again /ic/, hopefully this is my last WiP before finishing, would appreciate any feedback.

shiiiiet. trying to put into the practice the stuff i've been learning from the courses i've been watching. while I do see that i'm getting better, It's hard as shit to make my stuff actually look "anime".

>>7021673
PDN is a fine multimedia tool but not ideal for drawing. Learn to use Krita. I use it and it's fantastic. Only major weakness is that the built-in FX are a bit lacking, but it comes with the open-source G'MIC Qt which has pretty much every FX or filter plugin under the sun anyways.

>>7021679
honestly bangin design, very clean

>>7021112
Is this acceptable for an indie rpg with VN-style sprite dialogues?
P.S.: it's still wip, but I doubt it will improve significatively more at this point

>>7021370
do you sketch and then clean? or whats your process for making these? how long does it usually take?

>>7021685
Is it better to leave antialiasing on?

I found with paint.net it made filling in the lines with colour harder cause you'd end up with the lines being partially overtaken by the fill

>>7021689
>I doubt it will improve
Not with that attitude

>>7021693
Firstly, you should keep your lines and color separate. Color on a layer beneath the lines. Secondly, aliasing can be a stylistic decision. Sometimes I draw without anti-aliasing because I want to. If you color beneath lines instead of on them, then your problem will be solved, so you can just do whichever you want.

>>7021703
I actually used to use a weird technique of copying the line layer and filling that one in

Since that would result in the color overflowing the lines but there's the original line layer over so it looks fine

Do you have any pics of with/without anti aliasing?

>>7021608
this is ai

I should start following a rendering tutorial

>>7021712
No, not with AND without. I've never done one drawing both ways, since I usually know which I want to do going into it.

>>7021722
Ah fair enough. Well do you have some pics that are antialiased and some that are not? I kind of just want to see the differences even if they're not the exact same.

>>7021719
I think you should focus more on faces and hand studies using timed photoref, you can render all you want but if the base lines aren't solid it'll be a waste

https://quickposes.com/en/gestures/timed
https://www.quickposes.com/en
http://reference.sketchdaily.net/en

>>7021266
pyw

>>7021266
>All you need is feeling how things get smaller when they are further away
Next time just say 'just draw' and save us the retardedness

>>7021185
Cool shit

>>7021244
Berserk_prologue_guts_see_phemto

>>7021719
Same here. Currently trying to draw like a painter

>>7021112
Good OP Pic
>>7021118
As usual for your stuff, lovely
>>7021128
based
>>7021140
I recommend Keys to drawing. It's good that you are drawing from life (I hope so!), KtD is from life and it's much more fun than FWAP. In my opinion.....
>>7021511
>>7021426
I use my computer all the time. Ironically, the only time I get serious hand pain (constant, dull ache) is when I spend too much time on my phone.
>>7021708
basu

Posting from old thread
>Ask Client to try designing his character
>Crank two design out making them more animation friendly (He wants an animation too)
>Says he doesn't like em
>Oh well

Here they are for your view pleasure.

>>7021862

>>7021862
>>7021863
Here's the original design comparisons btw.

>>7021871
https://litter.catbox.moe/kh2u69.png

test

What should I do to improve my figures?

>>7021901
try adding shadows to define the forms

Hello beg, i skipped 1 day and it is so over. I have SO MANY bad habits when drawing figures it is crazy. And it is not like i drew too many in the past, so from where are these bad habits coming from?

>>7021862
the dangers of drawing: when the guy with money doesnt like it. i already know that feel very well despite being stuck in beg
>>7021708
booba
>>7021689
that looks tragic to be honest. unless there are people who are able to buy game without seeing its screenshots, expect 0 sales with such art
>wat do
keys to drawing and then steal i mean reference some existing artwork from different game and change it up so people cannot tell what you used as ref
>>7021684
disregard anime, do it your own way
>>7021679
you should abuse perspective tricks like blurry / less strong contrast for distant parts so the overlaps are way more obvious. like his hand behind a shield, there is ZERO indication the hand is behind the shield. Lighting should reflect that. same goes for everything else
>>7021643
belly, coom
>>7021608
very nice
>>7021454
i kneel
>>7021370
INT
>>7021220
there are whole art books dedicated just for drawing hands alone. hands (and feet) are incredibly complex and asresult very hard to draw, meanwhile body is like 3 or 4 boxes connected together
>>7021185
archive.org/details/PerspectiveMadeEasy/
>>7021171
plebs just use camera on their phone and then basic filter which you find in GIMP or KRITA for it. pros use scanner, modern scanners have built-in scan modes just for lineart
>>7021169
https://archive.org/details/PerspectiveMadeEasy/page/n195
>>7021142
having e-cred is nice to have for me, but far from MUST have
>>7021128
another INT
>>7021115
>draw a girl
>call it boy

>>7021673
Theres nothing really that can prepare for the feel unless you have a tablet/phone with a stylus
Dont worry you get the hang of it easily, even without a screen

My plan for this year is to use heavypaint to get better at painting with shapes but shit’s hard as fuck

>>7021692
I start with something like the drawing on the right, keeping in mind what's on the left... first I ask myself what angles the upper body (ribcage) and pelvis are at, and then I often start by drawing the upper body, but it can depend. for the arms I often start with just one or two lines, for general placement, then I draw above and erase. In more dynamic poses than those already posted, I'd start with a loose gesture for the whole body... btw I'm a confused beginner who's come out of a year of studying anatomy in the worst way, so now I'm experimenting with simpler and more direct methods as you can see lol, I don't have much experience
20 min by pose more or less

>>7021933
>from where are these bad habits coming from?
Mental illness?

>>7021933
I feel like you should focus on drawing one really good/accurate figure, you clearly have enough mileage

>>7021933
>where are these bad habits coming from?
If you're not practicing good habits, you're practicing bad habits. Pawell, you gotta slow down, fix mistakes as they come up, and get it right (at least to the best of your ability) before moving on. Just rushing through for mileage is just going to reinforce those bad habits.

>>7021971
Nah, mileage is the only thing he DOES have, he just doesn't seem to think about what he's drawing at all

How do y'all approach drawing arms? I'm stuck drawing arms then they look like they're broken or they look like stickers put on a torso.
Guess its back to drawing cilinders with perspective until the end of times :^(

Dunno what to put her arm resting on. I had it on a lenin statue head but it doesnt make sense cause she'd be 15 feet up in the air

>>7021979
Make it just the head, as if it was torn off from the statue. It's what you should do to lenin statues anyway.

>>7021981
its supposed to be a pro soviet pin-up

>>7021933
How many time does the drawings you post take on average? so how many minutes per pic

>>7021933
>>draw a girl
>>call it boy
you're right nigga pawell, i'll have to draw more male bodies

>>7021719

>>7022011

>>7022091
I guess it's sideways coz I didn't resize it.

>>7021933
>you should abuse perspective tricks like blurry / less strong contrast for distant parts

I'm not sure what that means or how to do it but I'll look into it thanks.

Using blue lead has made my drawings less messy and helps with planning, idk why I haven't bothered with them earlier. Same with alcohol markers for some quick shading. Need practice with blending/strokes
original: https://twitter.com/samipekoe/status/1745490937353011466/photo/1

>>7021643

difficult.

>>7022127
You know, I never noticed how truly small beccas tits were until you drew them lol

>>7022140
aint even tits just straight up big nips

>>7022140
learning to draw is learning to see

I did not draw today. And nothing any of you say or do will get me to draw again!

>>7021038
aight im done

>>7021933
smol and medium booba

>>7022197
good but its like it was drawn by 3 different ppl with 3 different styles, one drew background, one drew bike, and one drew the girl.

>>7022197
head kinda small or neck kinda long? idk but looks rad nonetheless

>>7022202
nah it looks good to me
>>7022201
aight, ill keep it in mind, if it was a personal work then id fuck with it more but i dont wanna work on it too much more

Tried to emulate (more or less) some more subtle anime style figures in pixel art that I have seen recently. I tried going much more subtle with the shading than I normally do. I think the anatomy of her left arm came out a bit strange.

Overall I am pretty happy with the results even if it comes out looking pretty simple. On the plus side this simplistic shading is so much faster to do.

>>7022207
Looks great, anon.

>>7022207
lmao at you nigga

>>7022207
Curses. Forgot the file.

>>7022210
why are her hands tentacles at the end?

>>7022212
Yeah, that part came out looking kind of weird didnt it. I think I ended up over emphasizing the heart shape from the hands, prioritizing that over having proper anatomy and just not having a whole lot pixels to work with for it. Hands are really hard.

sketch for tonight.

>>7022229
need to grind hands bro

>>7022210
It's a good start, it just need more definition.
Here's a 48x48 portrait from a game. That's far fewer pixels than in your example, yet the character's details are able to be seen much more clearly and she's a lot more defined.
The lower resolution you go, the more that contrast and value matter, because you have to impart as much detail as possible with as little space as possible. It requires a different working mindset.

>>7022232
Hands Tomorrow brother.

>>7021115
where's the dick?

tried to really focus on volume w these. I don't think I'll do the hatching on all my figures (too time consuming) but maybe I should add a couple rings here and there when I do figures going forwards

>>7021112
i re-drew this shit trying to apply the advices i been given, does it look better?
The lower body looks weird now that i see it on my computer screen

i didn't feel like watching weston today (he's getting into anatomy and it's confusing me -- does anyone have a good cheat sheet for anatomy that they like, by the way, one that would appeal to ultra begs) so i just tried drawing from imagination...

tomorrow i'll study hands, feet, and the shoulder area. construction's still proving tough kek (how long does construction normally take people)

I need criticism please

>>7021941
How tf do people make such effortlessly beautiful art on this app? I have newfound respect for them

>>7021979
tank I guess

fuck you

>>7022410
looks like you're kind of pussyfooting around using darker values
need to push those values harder

>>7022430
Oh this permabeg is still here?

>>7022197
looks good anon, visit /HAM/ or /ASG/ more!

>>7021607
Thank you for the analysis! Will have to study more but you putting the lines directly connecting to the images building helps me visualize it a lot better so thank you for that. I've never considered thinking of viewing her as 'lying down' in order to get the giant perspective

>>7022384
I think the main issue is that you have the shoulders and head drawn at a different scale compared to the lower half of the image. It kinda looks like you unconsciously separated the image into two halves and worked on them separately, resulting in half of your drawing being disjointed. Rather than separating the torso between the breast and the abdomen, try identifying how the ribcage would fit on your subject and imagining the bottom portion where she would be able to fold her body into it. Of course, the front of the ribcage is shorter than the back, but the bottom front of the ribcage is also the part of the body where you first see body folds. How accurately you place your subject's limbs in a 3D space is largely dependent on how well you can imagine the torso twisting and maneuvering around the body, since they both can't occupy the same space. Also her hands are uneven (one's too large and connected weirdly to her wrist).

TL;DR the main issue is how you're imagining the torso.

>>7022424
who?

>>7022197
It's so good anon lovely work but the color mixing on her outfit feels off, try to use tones that fit with the lighting, she's a bit too saturated which is fine but it would probably fit better if the shading colors were dimmer I think.

>>7022405
You just need more practice drawing realistic heads, keep it up. Try to draw what you see to the best of your ability.

Doing a slightly different angle from what im used to do has proven to be quite difficult.

if you're using a reference that has different clothing on than the character you're trying to draw, are you just supposed to imagine what it's supposed to look like without it? I found a ref with a pose I wanted to use, it's just that she's wearing a scarf and I have no idea how her neck should look

>>7021684
legit good study/work here buy chill on the genitals my dude. Man is obsessed.

>>7022117

Filename (it's not 2014)

>>7022405
face proportions look a little funky. Nose goes down a little too much, mouth is a little too far down

also that haircut is awful looking and reminds me of Season 1 Zuko but I assume it's intentionally part of the design

>>7022410
red square maybe

at what point is a beg considered int?

>>7022508

>>7022527
When is red purple?
but generally, if it looks like you could get work at a studio in at least a junior position you are probably int.

>>7022511
needs harder lines/edges shapes are too fizzy or light

>>7022218
Since it's a study and I assume you have a photoref try using a thinner brush to start with, or a larger canvas size think 4000/4000

Just realized it's only really over if you quit

>>7022579
looks like the house is on fire with that huge dark blob

>>7022568
might be because I draw very zoomed out. I'll give it a go though thanks for the tip

been trying to draw more stuff from imagination even though my anatomy study is still incomplete (legs/feet/hands)

>>7022583
I tried using my phone to get the picture, it added a lot of weird shadows and stuff

Beg here; idk what to focus on. I'm.having fun but I'd like to do it with more direction

More sample

Just getting back to drawing after a long absence due to depression/art block. So rip me a new one to get angry into drawing back better.

>>7022454
thanks Anon! i will try to fix the torso

what sup /ic/, how you guys doing, going to do more paintings.

>>7022405
I don't know anything about figure drawing so it might sound like nitpicking but the shoulder armor thickness transitions into a flat curved plane and the pyramids are aligned on the surface incorrectly. The overall drawing looks like it was drawn with a flat/symbolic mindset and guessed through using chicken scratching without any actual thought put into 3D forms or construction. I think you would benefit from studying perspective and observational drawing.

My depression is back and I havent draw in days. Zero motivation I'm gonna kill myself nothing ever helps FUUUUUUCKKREIRHUIBAUHSJDNIASDN

>>7022670
Just draw, if you need help, just imagine your favorite place, imagine being there. Even in the coldest winter, your mind can be summertime bliss.

Arms day/week for me. Didn't get nearly as many as I wanted to today because I was watching stuff with my BFFs but I think I got a solid start.

>>7022546
Strictly speaking, pure red and pure blue does not make purple. It makes magenta.

>>7022546
red is never purple. otherwise it would be purple.

>>7022745

Any good exercises I should prepare to do when my graphics tablet comes in?

I saw an interesting one on a video online that recommended drawing a circle in each corner of the canvas, then another circle around that

I also saw another video of a guy playing a rhythm game using the pen and tablet, is that actually helpful?

>>7022579
No. It’s over once you’ve been deemed NGMI.

>>7022437
PYW

>>7022745
purple, light pink, pink
dark pink, purple, pink
purple, even lighter pink, purple

>>7022792
trace pictures. and there is a dot method, where you draw 2 dots apart from eachother, and try to join them in one smooth stroke. and then you make more dots and connect those, 3 dots and make a smooth curve through them all. stuff like that helps.

Here's some line practice I did the other day. I found that holding the pencil differently, made it much better.

>>7021933
Do you ever fix your drawings? lmao probably getting worst every minute you spend here on /beg/

>>7022808
>trace
I thought tracing was a bad drawing practice

>take 3 day weekend
>spend most of it practicing
>making good progress, getting more confident
>go back to work for one (1) day
>can't draw at all, completely forgot what space and form is
I gotta get out of this fucking circus, I can't take it anymore

Do you like this book? I was thinking of copying it twice but I'm afraid of commitment so I'm looking for encouragement here

>>7022817
Tracing is an amazing practice to learn imo. But only when you trace construction, then copy your trace, and draw the picture over the construction

What is this book called?

>>7022824
Alright see ya

>>7022837
>But only when you trace construction, then copy your trace, and draw the picture over the construction
So basically:

1: Find pic you like
2: Trace the basic shapes of it
3: Copy that
4: Draw over the copy you made

That does sound interesting. I think I'll try that.

>>7022824
yeah work sucks

>>7022840
bridgman but in chink

>>7022579
didn't know michael j fox browsed /ic/

>>7022840
compretu gaido tsu duraling flom rife

>>7022792
>Any good exercises I should prepare to do when my graphics tablet comes in?
How you grip your stylus doesn't really change a whole lot since drawing on a tablet's different from drawing on paper. I'd familiarize myself with my drawing program of choice and know how to blend colors and manipulate layers and shit, at the very least.

Admittedly I am quite proud of how this one came out, even if it clearly isn't that great. The main reason is I was able to get more of a handle on the perspective, as previously I had this major issue with having my perspectives being unintentionally warped, so it was really rewarding to finally get one that feels more right.

I struggled with the fingers as I still don't know how to really draw them well unfortunately. Legs I had to redo a tad to make them look more correct considering the unusual style.

Regarding the style...she's from a cancelled animated pitch pilot. I merely used the style as reference hence why her limbs look kinda elongated and such.
https://lilch.ca/hood (You can find her on this page)

My general anatomy experience is still not terribly great but I am telling you, four months ago this drawing would have been impossible for me to draw.

Regardless, critique away.

Where are my (You)s?

Hello beg, the big boy pages are coming up in the vilppu book.

>>7022888
the most beg part are the drapery folds, next time cheat and yandex some photos of t shirts before attempting drapery
>>7022814
the red line is basically the fix. maybe my practice regime is retarded, but sadly there is no better advice than "just draw" so i am just throwing sticks at wall and hoping something will stick while following the books wisdom
>>7022813
please anon, disregard these meme exercises and pick up keys to drawing where you actually get to draw things, it will do you way better than these memes
>>7022792
have you tried drawing (on paper)?
>>7022664
very cool, i kneel. the boat deserves more highlights though. wet boats reflect light like crazy + they have light bulbs + it would improve composition
>>7022649
>art block
just admit you were too lazy. nice drawing
>>7022621
if you want direction, art books are excellent for it
>>7022612
is this achievable natty? very nice
>>7022423
stealth INT
>>7022404
you forgot to draw booba on all of them
>>7022118
nice
>>7022113
>seconds before rape photo
>>7022103
dynamic perspective is the term
https://archive.org/details/Scott_Robertson_How_To_Draw/page/97
>>7022092
cute
>>7021989
on good day i draw 4 hours, on bad day 2 hours. average is around 3. i am slow beg
>>7021977
just learn the muscles on arms and how elbow or wrist looks like to add missing detail to match the rest of the body

>>7021112
Weehoo!
Time for color

>>7022917
It's >>7022888
Yeah I agree the folds weren't great. Though I thought the crappy fingers were the worst thing desu.

>>7022670
Carnivore diet cures depression. High fat red meat only, only drink water. Consult with doctor about possibly needing medications lowered while on the diet.

Mecha

>>7022918
you're allowed to use straight lines too you know.

>>7021112
I need help with this part of female office clothing in yellow.

>>7022997
Post your attempt

>>7023008
I have a general issue with clothes.

>>7023012
this attempt also feels weird

Any idea if there is a way to shade his face with use of hatching? Cell shading sort of clashes with hatching in other places, but hatching normally just makes it too busy and messy.

>>7023123
use a thinner brush
try hatching along the form and try to keep the density even
draw the shape you want to hatch in before you start

>>7023138
>use a thinner brush
Even 1 pixel is too much. That's on me for making drawing so small, tho.
Tried lowering opacity, but didn't look all that look, either.
Other two tips I will try to keep in mind, thanks!

>Taking pawell's advice
Bro he has been drawing loomis for decades and still looks like shit.

Is it good practice to draw a proportional figure with lengths of all the needed parts, then for drawings get the lengths and simply rotate them for whatever it is you need?

>>7023012
Feel the form, my dude

>>7023156
i will look into it tomorrow feelbro thanks

I tried drawing Luffy again using some basic proportion techniques outlined in https://e-hentai.org/g/1585311/e9582faf02/?p=2 and, well, there's still a very long road ahead but i feel i was able to draw him better. The hat is terrible among other problems, but still if the anon that linked me this book yesterday is still here i would like to thank you. I have just started drawing a month ago and so far it has been immensely rewarding

>>7023173
good job anon, keep it up

>>7023173
>key to drawing on a non shitty ass internet archive thing
whew thanks

>>7023194
Or just get on libgen and download a pdf, like us non-retards.

Pretty scuffed, but I can count the number of times I've drawn a female on all 5 appendages; also more than just a head...
Trying to change that.
>b-but you only have fou-
Five appendages.
>the fac-
yea.
>not even a full figu-
yep.
>where are the curves and boo-
Perflat that I have never tried to translate.

Referenced and poorly optimized for personal vision of course; inspired by the referenced image(shan't be besmirching here) for good memories.

Hopefully will be improving and posting more with new priorities.

>>7023198
I don't like pdfs

>>7023202
based schizo

>>7023202
>I <3 THEY BEAT
>Lost smartie the kiddo daes

>>7023214
wouldn't be schizoid Kino if I explained everything.
>>7023209
for real, for real.

I'll get back to drawing, real backlog now.

How am I supposed to get into the habit of drawing? Should I force myself to keep going? I literally can't even do a line exercise for more than a minute or two before giving up, looking at my phone or pacing around my house again. It's not coming to me.

>>7023218
>hurr durr im a schizo

>>7023234
Leave the house

>>7023234
delete everything that's a distraction to you off your phone. Then lock yourself in a room with no distractions

>>7023252
I don't have anywhere to go.
>>7023273
My phone itself is the distraction and I need it for referencing.

>>7023279
You haven't used your phone ONCE to reference, Howie. Keep doodling bro, you should be forcing yourself to draw to get a habit going. Get to it, this week has been the most you've drawn in a year, keep the ball rolling.

>>7023239
I was running with the first post, compadre; Please calm down and Draw the needful Sir.

>>7023279
>I don't have anywhere to go.
bro is on house arrest

>>7023012
>>7022997
>entire genre of jav is dedicated to large breasted women in office shirts
>use some random flat girl as reference
???

Break is over; hopefully have something more high effort on a day off so your eyes suffer less.
Caricatures are tough desu, fun though.
Like obviously exaggerate my nose, eye bags and acne, but then what?
probably bias.
Was just thinking, 'warty witch'.

>>7022541

Arturia Virtuosa with her dokutah

>>7021115
second for
boy butts

##

Do I really have to follow Vilppu's book down to a T? I was skimming throughput it earlier and some of the stuff on the combining 2D & 3D observations chapter really catched my eye, I'm past the absolute beg stage btw

>>7023374
there are NO RULES anon, ONLY TOOLS

>>7021933
I assume you meant light contrast instead of line weight cause I had done that before.

Anyways thanks for seeing me through /ic/, I'm very happy with how it turned out

Is it just me or did ic's speed pickup all of a sudden? This thread got made like yesterday and it's already at +200 images

You guys actually took the just draw pill for a day lmao

Pawell will be all old and wrinkly by the time he finishes grinding loomis twice

I did some gestures and last time people were impressed. This time they came about pretty rough lol. There are good and bad days, so you gotta keep going to get to the good days.
>>7021157
Good studies!
>>7021244
Learn to feel form. Legs are flat
>>7021608
8/10 add highlights
>>7021370
Excellent
>>7021412
Hey, nice job. And you drew a background!
>>7021454
Looks great tho
>>7021684
Lacking gesture. The poses are a bit stiff, more like action figures set up in a pose than living bodies. I recommend Vilppu’s approach. You don’t have to draw like him, but try to incorporate how he thinks about gesture.
>>7021799
How are you so good what the fuck. What have you been doing to git so gud at drawing? Master studies?
>>7021862
>>7021863
Idk I kinda like yours better
>>7022197
Good job. The pink to blue transition in her hair seems pretty abrupt. Otherwise great though.
>>7022199
Nice! Trad, right?
>>7022359
Not bad. The girl’s calf nearest us has the wrapping lines going the wrong way. To train this sort of thing, you don’t need many lines. Grind primitives and organic forms a la Dynamic Sketching
>>7022410
Commies suck but tanks are cool, good job. Red square is also cool.
>>7022423
Damn good stuff
>>7022483
Yeah it’s annoying how specific drawing skills are. This doesn’t look bad tho
>>7022610
Lovely
>>7022612
Nice anatomy! What are you doing to study it?
>>7022621
>>7022623
Really good. Maybe do dynamic sketching or an anatomy course
>>7022704
Based friend-haver
>>7022876
Kek
>>7022918
Looking forward to it
>>7022947
Love this
>>7022957
Great faces anon
>>7023149
What?
>>7023167
Kinda getting horror vibes
>>7023327
Aesthetic face, anon
>>7023355
Excellent but the cast shadow of her fingers on her head flattens it. Also no cast shadows from her hair onto her chest
>>7023369
Wew, shiny. I like it. I like painterly stuff like this
>>7023390
Looks pretty good, man. He meant use stuff like atmospheric perspective and focal length.
>>7023391
Nice drop

>>7023436
This is beautiful.

>>7023434
>lines going the wrong way
ahh ye I see what you mean, thanks for point that out

>Grind primitives and organic forms a la Dynamic Sketching
could you expand on that a bit? what's dynamic sketching?
same goes for primitives, never heard of it before

>>7023481
wow nice Ai bro.

>>7023498
You welcome.

>>7023434
vilppu's approach? is there a youtube video on that or somethin

>>7023498
nta but this is the mech girl anon, haven't seen their stuff in a while but can confirm they don't use ai lol

>>7023481
I don't know what it is about bunny girls

>>7023520
Its just the goat custome that stands the test of time

>>7023481
>>7023520
Coom appeal, sex sells.

>>7023520
because its an ideal ,can't be done yet IRL without photoshop, straps or glue.

>>7023458
Here’s a rough example.
The primitive forms are the basic building blocks that you use to construct everything else out of. Basically boxes, balls, and tubes. Draw them a lot and in every which way to be able to draw them in every orientation. I.e. rotate boxes. Organic forms are squishy blobs that you give volume to by using wrapping lines as if they were rubber bands stretched around the volume, or racing stripes painted along the surface, or trails made by ants as they crawl along the surface of the volume. Basically a 3d wireframe. Dynamic Sketching is a course of study taught by various dudes, most notably Peter Han. DrawABox is a free and autistic version of this that’s good for complete begs, at least up until lesson 3 or 4.
>>7023513
In his book Vilppu Drawing Manual, or the courses thread here will have his Renaissance Figure Drawing course. You can find examples and demos of him doing gestures on YouTube, but idk if you can find a full breakdown of his teachings. On YouTube specifically, Michael Hampton’s approach to gesture is essentially the same as Vilppu’s and he does have videos on YouTube like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKi3-fe1GC4
And
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3gV2vniKhA
And
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSzB3ESpfE0
>>7023481
Hands might be slightly big. Gorgeous as always though
>>7023520
It’s kemonomimi lite

>>7023563
gotcha, i'll look into the vids. thanks

>>7023563
ahh I see
I'll check out Peter Han
I gotta work on organic forms for sure, never done those wireframes before

>>7023481
do you have social media

>>7023434
>What?
Like I draw all the lengths of certain parts of the body and rotate them as needed for poses

For example I draw the proportions as lines of what I want like picrel and then rotate those lines

Trying out the things I've learned so far from, "how to see color and paint it" I'm quite happy with the results it was hard but satisfying. I'm still lacking so much but I think I'm getting the hang of it.

Any advice or something I horribly miss?

>>7021297
I think you should find a nice smudging/blending tool, in trad you can use your finger, chamois, brush for softer edges

>>7021684
anime look is just a framework for stylization, I think dong chong goes a little deeper on this.

>>7021719
>>7021799
I'm in no position to give you guys advice but at least I can share the advice given by acquaintance who is an pro artist, paraphrasing, "start with realism, its not the end goal but you will end with tons of problems to solve which later will translate to stylization" something that I was attempting to do with pic related.

>>7022834
just do it

>>7022840
Basics of Body Modeling - Shen Zhaorong - Shanghai Education Press - 1986人体造型基础 (沈兆荣)

>>7023369
I like it

Spent about half the day making this crap for a request on /v/
https://files.catbox.moe/alaj8z.png

>>7023436
10/10

why should i care about colors when every monitors displays it differently

gotta draw more VELVET CROWE no relations to Russell Crowe; The Pope's Exorcist.

I don't understand how to draw the form and volume. I always end up drawing contour when i try to practice. Any way to improve?

>>7023563
Ah Thanks

Velvet Crowe, uh no relations to Russell Crowe; The Pope's Exorcist. No relations to Horseradish either.

another quick sketch, couldnt find time to draw yesterday unfortunately. :(

Another quick sketch, couldnt find time to draw yesterday unfortunately. :(

trying out perspective, still not done but it's getting there i think

>>7023608
@nemojona

>>7023799
I kneel.

>>7023481
I drew some bunnygirls the other day yet yours utterly mog mine. I kneel to the center of the earth

>>7023520
when I was a stupid teen I thought it was a dumb outfit but now I realize it's the whole tummy and pelvis area that's king. The tits can be flat or big and it doesn't matters

>>7023796
how do i become you >:(

>>7023842
Reject Loomis, embrace fucking around until it works. Reject drawabox, embrace gesture/scribbling until stuff works.

>>7023847
This unironically. I’m no pro by any means but drawing I felt miserable using boxes. Everything looked stiff. I took the gesture pill eventually. Also use references a like your life depends on it. No matter how “unique” the pose is in your head. Someone already did it for you.

>>7023800
>Another chilean brother drawing 2hus in this hole of a site
I thought I was the only one. My fucking brother from another mother. Wena pana.

>>7023880
Who cresta are you?

>>7023881
Barely post anything in social media so I don't have an account to show, but I drew these the last thread. Do you mind if I dm you? I'd love to talk about weas and tojas. If not I completely understand.

>>7023884
Hagale. Btw those bunny make me feel mogged. I kneel.

>>7023889
No man, I feel your bunny mogged me greatly. Especially the face, hair, head, they are much better. I'm the one who kneels.

Estoy en la pega ahora pero en un rato le hablo

>>7021112
Idk if this is considered good or not

>>7023889
>>7023894
>>>/choroy/
get out

>>7023928
You have a nice idea of clothing and design, however the proportions and form of the figure could use a lot more work. Keep it up anon

>>7023928
Also I forgot to say: STOP HIDING THE HANDS BEHIND THE FIGURE. HIDING THEM IS OBVIOUS AND SHOWS YOU LACK CONFIDENCE

>>7023944
>>7023948
Thanks for the feedback, also i didnt hide the hands, they are those balls at her hips
I just suck at putting the details :(

Day 2 of Arms week. If somebody wants to redline some of the muscles I would deeply appreciate it

>>7023981
well first of all women dont have muscles so the lady on the right is just all wrong

First time drawing/painting an anime girl

>>7023990
Lineart

It's boring, I don't know.

>>7024033
Is that her right hand or her left hand?

Because the position it appears from indicates that's the left hand, but it has the fingers of a right hand

Trying to work on drawing from imagination

>>7024033
The hand looks like it's a rightie attached to the left arm

>>7024045
It was easier to draw it this way so I thought I'd get away with it being the right arm. I guess it would make more sense to be left

Reilly is king.

>>7024166
Coulda fooled me.

>>7024168
what do you mean

Drew it for a commission. I think it came out pretty nice

>>7024166
huh, nice rhythm

>>7024209
turns out the shoulders are too wide, ill have to redo it

>>7024214
should've used reilly

>>7024226
ok nerd

>>7023783
SOUL

>>7023981
Not to shit on you but are you grinding arms to use them later for a more refined illustration or just for the sake of it? I was reading krenz notes the other day and he said to not mindlessly grind but rather do it with purpose (e.g if you are practicing hands you are gonna make an illustration with hands at the main focus and so on)

>>7021112
Total noob here, how much of Drawabox should I do? All of it? What should I move onto after it?

>>7024263
>if you are practicing hands you are gonna make an illustration with hands
most characters have arms and hands so knowledge how they looks like is always useful/used

Where can I see more of your work

>>7024312
Meant to reply to
>>7024033
I feel like I've seen your style before, drop blog

>>7024291
For me it's until you get tired, then draw what you want

Then you draw what you like until you get tired of sucking, so you go back to grinding fundies, and so on.

can someone help me see where im going wrong w the hips here? my figure makes no sense if i take the guidelines out

>>7024332

>>7024033
>>7024312
Yeah I like your stuff too. Blog?

>>7024312
Oh thats rad. I really get lazy and don't think enough about background details,like those.
>I feel like I've seen your style before
Doubt it the style is fairly generic. Blog is mahjongfan1 on Twitter, but I post once in a blue moon there and even less here.

>>7024352
>Sweet, I liked and subscribed
>>7024349
I did the paintover but the original was the other guy. My blog is subuart everywhere, mostly use Twitter

>>7024360
Thanks. Great stuff anon

>>7024263
Iunno, I practice a part then I apply it to a drawing later, like with the chick on the right. Don't know what to tell ya

Do you guys think I will gain a lot of followers with Christian anime art? I want to create scenes with Christian figure and stories and fight against degeneracy and the evil forces of the devil by using anime. Is this a bad Idea?

>>7024410
yeah sounds based, ill follow.
now draw that shit rn faggot

>>7023434
Just drawing desu, most important variable. Studying helps, but if you dont draw you are going nowhere


>>7024033
Cute

>>7023617
>>7023434
like for example this is one for a heroic 9 head tall figure, just some notes and lengths certain parts that I will come back to as notes later

>>7024442
Oh, I think I understand now. I don’t think you need to do that and I don’t think it’ll be very helpful anyway. Doing such rigid measuring and rotating the measurements to position the arm will only really be helpful if you’re doing an Egyptian-style flat symbol figure with literally zero foreshortening. You should have an idea of the general proportions and make sure the elbow would be about at the end of the rib cage and the wrist would be about at the pubic bone if you imagined the figure straightening their arm down their side, (or if the forearm plus fist is as long as shoulder to elbow) but even that kinda goes out the window when the torso is foreshortened. So measurements are good to know, and they’re useful, but they’re there to serve the drawing and not the other way around. For somewhat idealized but still realistic proportions, it’s usually enough to just have it so the legs from pubis to heel look like they’d be about about the same length as the torso plus head (or slightly longer.) But you ultimately want to train your eye and get a feel for decent proportions without having to do a ton of measuring. And never start a pose out by measuring, unless you’re just generally putting “top of head here, bottom of feet here, halfway about here” type marks. You want to start with the gesture, always. Then adjust to make sure it’s proportional.

>>7024410
>Do you guys think I will gain a lot of followers with Christian anime art?
I don't know probably won't, but David is basically a shōnen mc so who knows.

difficult

is it normal for your first attempt to be the best? the first drawing I did when I started drawing as an adult was the one that did the best. The rest of my art hasn't been praised nearly as much as my first attempt. Do I just accept it was a fluke?

>>7024546
No it's not, kindly pyw.

>>7024475
Yeah you got a point there.

I think I'll just make some for reference cause I got not much else to do till the tablet comes next week.

>>7024226
gottem

Another request I did on /v/

do drawing gloves ease drawing on a tablet?
does anyone use them here?

>>7024767
sometimes they can help with palm rejection and keep your oily sweaty skin from smudging up the drawing surface

>>7024767
Depends a bit on how you use your stylus. If you hover your hand above the tablet the whole time you don't need one. But if you prefer to draw with your palm resting on the tablet you can slide across the tablet very smoothly if you wear a glove.

Any tips for better line art?
Im trying to draw alluring voluptuous body.

>>7024811
draw with your dick

>>7024753
did you just trace a 3d model

>>7024833
Nah I usually use a pic for reference or one of those online pose-able art mannequins which is probably what you're noticing but I didn't trace it. Maybe that's even worse since you could still tell. Got any pointers for me?

>>7024893
were you trying to go for a low poly 3d aesthetic? because thats what it looks like and why i said it looks traced from a model.
If not then you should seriously work on not just copying what you see from scratch and actually draw laid out 3d shapes.

>>7024908
Thank you for confirming my gut feeling that tells me I gotta get back to grinding construction.. :/
I fucking hate construction.

>>7024540
She could lose some weight i think

>>7024753
the head shape needs work, the features are especially bad, the nose looks like it migrated westwards like a Hungarian person. The neck makes me wonder if this is an intentionally bad AI because it is evident you never saw a neck before.
Also what is her hand doing down there? is she jerking off? you think we wouldnt make fun of your shitty hands if you conveniently cropped them offscreen?
Still made me coom though 10/10

>>7024551
I already posted it on /ic/ a few times so I don't want to keep posting the same drawing over and over. But speaking of which, this drawing actually got chosen as the OP pic for the /beg/ and /int/ thread, while none of my other drawings in the years since have. I think it's just cause I have no self-esteem

>>7024811
You're gonna have to post an example of something you've done if you want any meaningful advice.

>>7025013
I get the feeling but I personally don't mind taking a look at them, this is why I asked. Just because they're past works doesn't mean they should be shelved and never be looked at again. I think there are great insights to gain about yourself from analyzing past works.

Good morning I hate women

>>7024767
I've never felt the need to get one, but I'm on screenless, maybe it's different on screen tablets

>>7025030
https://www.deviantart.com/saintsmithy/gallery

I didn't upload them in the same order I drew them. The portrait drawing of palutena is the first one I did when I started off, which is the drawing that's done better than the rest (it's also the only one that got over 100 likes on twitter). The rest is mostly just /beg/ and /int/ quality

>>7025092
Alright, so just to be straight and reassure you, it shows you've been pushing yourself and I do think you're getting better. The Draenei and bikini girls are a lot better.
The reason the Palu portrait (took off is really just because it's 1) a popular character and 2) a very straightforward thumbnail. You could do this for any popular character and get a similar result really. Same goes for that Peach one.

I also want to convey that on DA people can be content with not much and if you start to depend on the approval of people there it will stunt your growth. Try branching to other platforms and try looking at better artists. I think you have good potential so put some faith in yourself.

>>7025107
>a very straightforward thumbnail
this is always why I figured it did better than the others, just cause a portrait drawing is easier to do well than a complicated body pose. Nice to finally get some confirmation on it I guess

>Try branching to other platforms
I post on pixiv and twitter as well. the only real difference is that I post more coom on those but they're around the same quality as the rest. The coom does a lot better with how many likes it gets but I think it's only cause it's coom

I appreciate the rest of what you said though anon, I'm glad I got some genuine evaluation of all my art. I'll keep in mind what you wrote going forward

Reilly method

Lay it on me

>>7025092
The reason it's more popular is likely because she's the least clothed and a popular character.

still trying to think of an outfit

>>7025358
leeloo fifth element

>>7025327
not the one of her in the bikini, the one of her that's just her head. The full body drawing was a bit later. The portrait drawing of palu got over 100 likes on twitter despite it being the first one I drew, the rest of my art hasn't done nearly as well. which why I why I asked in the first place

>>7021112
I think my issue is the way I use colors to make a texture?

Which one is better for a home office (not working as artist)? The distractionless, ultraminimal empty setup, or a little gallery to remind myself of my achievements? Would a female girl like this?

(I will give feedback later)

>>7025394
Also, I think if I would display my drawings, then blu-tacking to the wall in a collage-ish layout would look a million times better.

>>7025394
The most important thing is getting a wireless mouse.

>>7025399
I have two, the only reason I'm using this, is because they're non-expensive ones, and there is a teeny tiny input lag. This cheapass wired mouse feels instant.

>>7025404
If you're actually able to feel the input lag, your wireless mouse is crap.

>>7025404
you can get a logitech g305 with no input lag for 30 bucks

>>7025326
besides the hands which can be fixed by drawing more hands you need to look at the structure of the face you end up pushing the hair and ears too far away from the face
I hope this helps.

>>7025376
In that case, I'd just chalk it up to catching the winds of the algorithm. I wouldn't put a ton of thought into why one piece of art is more popular than your later works. One of my most popular works on Pixiv has almost 3k likes while my most recent works barely scratch 500. Pretty sure it's because I don't upload entire sets to Pixiv anymore and switched to mosaic censoring, but eh.

is there a way to export something into like a sprite sheet in krita?

>>7025483
>>7025483

>>7025483
>>7025483

>>7025477
search for plugins (on github or krita) I think there is at least one for dragonnones.

>>7025428
Thank you, anonymous. The head seems to receive the vast amount of critique everywhere I’ve posted it. I will work on heads (and hands).