/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

what's the point of posting here?

Can someone explain why ASG hates >>7011444

ive never seen more blatant crabbing as responses in any thread even a i ones

guides/resources on drawing boxes? im starting to realize that i actually dont know how to do it and assumed i could already

>>7015538
>draw the eyes
>i like them
>notice a small mistake
>erase and re-do
>drawing looks nothing like before
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>7015551
you need the same angles bro. y'feel me?

>>7015548
fuck off permabeg, stop splitting generals

>>7015546
You'll get an honest response of your art from strangers and if you make any mistakes they'll be sure to point it out and make fun of you lol but it's good feedback

>>7015548
I think it's because there were already a bunch of different generals so people were sick of going to different spots even though the board itself is so slow

>>7015551
You're doing fine just look up images of cardboard boxes and 1 2 and 3 point perspective. Here's something to get you started https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5orI-eYOPys&list=PLMXbAPr21di8DjTKCE3EoS4KFtNZ-FDnP&index=1

>>7015564
Keep it up, lean into friction

>>7015538
i don't know if getting featured in the god-forsaken op images should be taken as a compliment or as an insult

>>7015551
get a cube like object IRL, pose it, draw it as accurate as you can, repeat. Learn how to use blender for simple primitive too. This is for you to internalize the feeling of a cube. But perspective basic knowledge will help you greatly too as >>7015571 recommended.

Also here are some cubes refs.
https://idlecanvas-wagmi.web.app/?mode=3d

>>7015538

some basic head structure practice

made this yesterday
critique please

also, how do you guys study from a book? do you guys go step by step, lesson by lesson or how do you do it?

I’ve been drawing for a couple of months now, I think I’ve improved a bit. Still, please give me some harsh critique.

new grill
what dya think

>>7015637
solid work depending on how consistent and fast you are this could be /pro/ work

>>7015634
Sorry bro but these colors are not appealing at all. They seem bright and unnatural to me, too saturated. The background was perfectly executed in comparison. Also hate how all the pants, the bag and the scarf are all matchy matchy, AND the brown thing at the bottom.
>>7015564
>erase
that would be like admitting that youre wrong. I dont do that shit
>>7015621
I wish I could be supportive...but how the fuck do you jerk off to this stuff lmao. these are fucking aliens.

>>7015637

>>7015621
That's a big asshole

>>7015654
>I dont do that shit
then how do you correct your mistakes?

>>7015650
damn, thnx
>>7015656
I don get it

>>7015686
He's got your nose.

>>7015656
Hey, give it back!

>>7015637
Love her
Please give her a nose!

>>7015637
Don't listen to the other guy, I don't think he nose what he's talking about

>>7015664
You can only make mistakes if you draw

>>7015621
>621
This is a sign to catbox this and put it on /fag/
>>7015571
I like the line variety, make sure to flip the canvas to check her right eye

Still figuring out a painting workflow

>>7015266
>>7015278
>>7015294
Thanks a lot for the comments. I think i'll stick to Keys to Drawing and will do the first three lessions of Draw a Box to get confident with my pen.
I will come back in like 3 months.

>>7015637
mouth breather

MS paint attemp

>>7015637
would impregnate despite not having a nose

>>7015770
any reason you're limiting yourself to paint?

I CAN'T INTO LINE ART FOR SHIIIIIIT

>>7015637
Someone stole her nose

>>7015637
cool but where nose?

>>7015637
Tips for learning/practicing line art plez

Hello beg. The more i draw the more i realize how gesture IS the most important thing ever. The nicolaides was correct: you wont understand it until you draw million figures. Now all i need is to figure out how to stop being so BEG

>>7015738
>3 months
silly anon, you must PYW daily your daily progress
>>7015634
value range, insufficient shading lacking hard edges
>>7015599
kPRO like usual
>>7015571
looks like you cracked the secret of appeal. i kneel
>>7015551
https://archive.org/details/PerspectiveMadeEasy/page/n59
>>7015546
we are the containment general sir

shoutouts to the nigga that posted proko's noob course now maybe I can stop doomwatching random youtube videos that are way over my head.
first time trying to draw shit that even remotely resembles something realistic and also I hate shading.

hands botters me a little but Im working on the clothes now...

>>7015711
Does the eye look better now?

>>7015815
thanks powie

I won’t be drawing for this thread, either. I have w perfect streak of not drawing so far this year! Wish me luck to keep it going.

>>7015815
instead of just annotating what's wrong why not go back and fix it? what is the method to this madness pawell?

trying to learn how to do some rendering on torsos, here's my second attempt

>>7015815
>you must PYW daily your daily progress
B-b-but Pawell-Senpai what can i draw?
(should i post the excersises?, would scanning the paper suffice? I have a copyscanner and like 500 24lb paper sheets but i am really cheap so idk if i should bulk buy another type of paper)

>>7015775
>any reason you're limiting yourself to paint?
No

oh i made it to the OP again? Nice

Hello thread, I drew today! Some studies and doodles.

>>7015843
Good boxes, but you gotta pay attention to the proportions, the whole midsections of the body is way too short, extend that ribcage and stomach down!

>>7015822
very nice anon, no notes I can give you, but do post the final result when you're done please

>>7015637
blog? lots of appeal in this image

>>7015538
/Beg/inner here
What's the most basic of basic things to draw?
I just want to pick up drawing for fun and self improvement
Eventually I'd like to be able to actually draw human characters but Im not confident I'd get there
But that doesn't matter as this is for fun, as I just want to learn and draw

>>7015919
Start doing figure drawing + anything else you wish to learn. Figure drawing is king when drawing people

really quick sketch so i draw today

>>7015919
boxes and spheres in perspective
then start combining them, making new shapes like you're 3d modeling but on paper
then figure drawing

>>7015919
try to draw what you see

>>7015919
Show me what you can draw now and i will tell you, pyw.

>>7015634
I sentence you to drawing boxes and cylinders in perspective.

Once you understand how to draw them, it's shocking how easily you can simplify the body into managable shapes. You have a good understanding of proportions, so once you master the shapes your art will improve drastically.

I tried to show how you could simplify your character into basic shapes. Good work anon I believe in you

>>7015925
I like it a lot

>>7015924
Thank you but I think I need something more basic before I move on to there

>>7015928
Thank you, and are you a mind reader? I've done some 3d modeling before and your example just clicked in my head for where to start

>>7015933
This is a sketch of a figure's head I have on my shelf that I did the other day
I'm expecting to get laughed at, I had no idea what I was doing and that's why I'm here asking as I do not want to give myself bad habits
Apologies for the low quality

>>7015949
thank you, i appreciate the kind words anon.

>>7015634
Outside of what >>7015948 said - which was solid advice - start focusing on adding more detail to your sketch/drawing before actually painting it. All of the details are really undefined, such as the cloak on the upper body (i dont understand how it works, is it look a hoody thats been cut? a Poncho? Is there trim on it? Does it lace up at the neck, or button maybe?), add details to the belt, the shirt, the pants. If you're unsure about it, iterate on the sketch like pic related until you have a design idea you like. Realistically, id go into more detail for a character i wanna draw. just for posterity sake im posting this. I think it will go a long way.

If you're unsure about any parts of a pose, set a timer on your phone and take a pic of yourself doing it.

Finally - learn better colour theory and stop airbrushing everything

i think i might be autistic i just wear a drawing glove all the time when im at home now

Last two weeks sketchpile.
What do you think?
Any character you prefer?

>>7015979
Seems you are, no offense.

I am too lazy and tired to attach my drawing. Imagine a low-beg drawing.

>>7015843
What is your endgame with these? What kind of art do you want to create?
>>7015869
MS Paint pencil is the digital equialent of a pencil for me. It doesnt have line variation I know but it just makes me go loose and sketch
>>7015858
Are you the guy who paints over pictures but only an object and also uses the color picker to choose colors?
>>7015981
BASED and SAVED. I love the girl with the bob haircut, but that's just cause she is totally my type.
>>7015849
Im beg but I think the line below the boobs on the middle would imply a noticeable recession on her body. it should be lighter. Otherwise nice work
>>7015820
Anon, this is good work! To improve, next time closely stick to your reference: the apple shows symbol drawing, like the cast shadow for example. And choose good reference, the strawberry drawing does not correspond to the reference.
As for the shading I think you should just try it in trad. The way proko tells you shading is very straightforward. (I remember the video.)
You use a tiny ass shit brush for shading, Its no wonder it was hard to execute.
>>7015815
Keep going Pawell, I wish I was only as determined as you to draw daily.
>>7015711
Basu!

We make fun of these drawings, but one day we will look like these people.

>>7016063
yeah the middle was a bit too concave

>>7015949

>>7015656
You can keep it.

>searching for painting tutorials on youtube
>video title "YOU COULD PAINT LIKE THIS!!!"
>thumbnail looks like shit
i think i'm just gonna do black and white drawings until i die

>>7016103
thx for drawing a portrait of my wife, she said she liked it very much

>>7015538
Has anyone done the VanOrdenArt Course? Is it worth the 50 bucks or should I just stick to what's suggested in the sticky?

Reference: >>7001021

I think my hands and feet are getting better, but I still struggle a lot with hair.

does this look too bright somehow

>>7016196
my take on it, also tried to make her look white so hope that helps

>>7016087
Wait I will turn into a pipe smoking cartoon character? Based

>>7016229
now make her black

>>7016232
EWWWWWWWWW

Is it just me or does krita have poor ergonomics on android, I feel like I wasted far more time than usual on this one

>>7016229
hey I like it! thanks :D

>>7016235
all apps that just reuse the desktop UI feel cramped on android

how color, how structure

>>7016241
imo dont think of colour until you have a better understanding of light + shadow. pick out simple shapes from your reference, look for groups of shadow and light as a way to tighten up on accuracy. Get the simple things down before you try to render or paint/blend.

another lil sketch

>>7016266
love these sketchs anon the shading makes it pop
amazing
i really like the sketchyness of it

Should I be using my screenless tablet tilted at an angle or is that more just for screen tablets/paper?

hard light or no hard light?

>>7016289
idk what those words mean but the left one is better

>>7016280
yeah it is better for your wrist

>>7016294
why's the vagina blurry when it's the dick that's moving

>>7016294
me on the right

>>7016295
I'm new to lewd art, ig it felt right atm. I'll unblurr it tomorrow

>>7016294
you should just die horny bastard

>>7016307
:^)

>>7016294
Downright repulsive.

>>7016326
nta
lmao what
pyw crab

I did a quick sketch of a starship. I messed up the centerline but just went with it.

I drew today

>>7016420

I can't draw. I am legit too stupid to draw faces.
Can't even copy a face from reference right...

>>7016424
>i can’t draw
>literally posts something they drew.. by drawing..

>>7016429
I can't draw (anything worth fucking shit)

>>7016431
anon I've seen shit that's much much worse stop putting yourself down

>>7016434
You shouldn't look in the mirror so much
HA GOT EM

>>7015815
I don't want to end up like this
I don't want to end up like this
I don't want to end up like this
I don't want to end up like this
I don't want to end up like this

>>7016434
Its still shit. Knowing it could be way way worse won't make me feel any better.

>>7016443
It's not really shit though. Seriously stop putting yourself down. You'll live a better life

drunk posting

>>7016266
cute, I think I have seen your work in previous threads, you always make the eyes pop

>>7016289
left, it would look awesome in a HDR scene

>>7016294
I don't feel the force behind the thrust, the honiness is there but it lacks the gesture.

>>7016196
quick tip warmer colors for shades and cooler highlights, also simplier shapes as >>7016229
did

>>7016164
books > video courses
but if you have the money and thinks will make you draw then go for it.

>>7015815
since your lommis your work looks low effort and doing mindlessly, nikolaides would not approve and would send you to make more right angle studies.

>>7015770
nice

>>7015711
the thumbnail doesn't read as good

>>7016443
After a month of drawing you'll see how much better you've gotten
After a month of feeling bad about yourself and not drawing you'll be at the same level
Which one do you want to do?

where do I collect my million dollar checks?

>>7015815
While I'm not any good myself I think you need to be abit more asymmetrical with your lines. Some of the redlines to correct the asymmetry in some of your figures actually makes them feel more stiff and unnatural. Hampton talks about this in the first part of his book.

>>7015820
Still got a link to that?
I could probably use it.

you people suck

>>7016476
Yeah that's the point of the thread bucko.

I copy reference pretty closely but I'm not good at making it into it's own thing. I feel like I may as well just trace it if I copy it so closely or like I'm just a good photo copier rather than an artist. Whenever I try to draw it not as closely it just looks like shit and whenever I don't use a reference 9/10 it looks bad. I don't know what to do

>>7016447
I acn keep trying and be realistic with my utter dogshit level all the same.
>>7016444
No. I don't like lying to myself.

>>7016424
need help.........................

>>7016437
Then keep drawing

>>7016437
Unfortunately, you just have to push through it.

Given Pawell's output, he's only drawing 30 minutes a day.

with 30 minutes a day, it'll take you 10 years before you become anywhere near decent.

Push towards 2 hours a day at least, if not 3. The more, the better.

In a single study session, I'll produces pages and pages of drawings, not jus the single page that Pawell posts

>>7016497
i think he draws for over 3 hours each day...

>>7016498
bros gmi

>>7016063
>endgame
No endgame, it never ends.

>>7016482
Learn how to control forms in perspective and get into the habit of breaking down references/studies using geometric forms. Having good spatial awareness skills and thinking three-dimensionally on the page are important abilities to have if you want to draw from imagination and rely less on reference.

random junk from today.

Just finished this, critique please

>>7016424
i like ur art style anon, the main things i'd focus on however is line art (line weight specifically) and taking ur time also dont be afraid to overlap different things happening in ur drawing like her shirt ruffles.

>>7016466
Usually from New York's Jewish community

I can't bring myself to keep drawing when I violently hate what I shit out on the screen, it's like staring at my own inadequacy and incompetence as it laughs at me, knowing that it will take possibly years to go away, I hate it

>>7016571
Alright after flushing my thoughts down the drain I've decided that I'm a big baby and need to keep pushing. I think I have to stop trying to nail down a style though when my lines are fucking atrocious.

So I'm working on drawing characters at an angled view

I'm wondering if there's any good references for drawing an open laughing mouth at this angle, or if you guys have any advice.

>>7016576
Is this also your work? I saved it from December 3rd, 2022.

As someone who has not tried to draw for maybe 10-15 years, sell me on a drawing tablet.

>>7016590
nope, this is what my work looked like early dec 2022

>>7016592
I just bought a Huion H1060P after years of not drawing. It was cheap but works well.

>>7016592
pros: it's not that expensive assuming you are employed
cons: paper+pencil is easier to build confidence on and cheaper

>>7016587
Draw skulls, you have a very bad understanding of head shapes

Fwap

>>7016575
keep picking yourself up after getting knocked down, king

>>7016595
>>7016515

Ah, it was worth a shot. Nice progress though.

Imagination rendering

>>7016602
This better?

I saw some guides online that used drawing a circle first and I found that certainly makes somethings a lot easier like the top of the skull

>>7016520
thanks anon, I'll keep your advice in mind for my next drawing

>>7016602
>>7016628
oh yeah does the expression look better? You had a good point on the skull shape, I like it a lot more now.

>>7016576
Very nice, I like top left

I am happy to report that I successfully did not draw yesterday.

What is a good way to get better results from imagination drawings? Is it just try to do an idea, run into a wall, search for solution, apply, repeat?

>>7015538

>>7016718
Read basic figure drawing by Vilpou and keep reading it and drawing everyday for about two years

>>7016662
You should draw porn desu
I like how you draw faces and it would be a shame and a waste not to have full fledged coom art with your style at its peak

>>7016733
>I’M GROOOOOOOOOOMING

>>7016745
Ur mom groomed me last night christcuck

>jews out of nowhere

>>7016745
groom a rope around your neck poltard

>>7016745
Good post.

>>7016773
>poltard
rent free

We should all collectively give up drawing to send a strong message about AI and capitalism.

>>7016840
I though about it once but I realised that AI already mogs me so doing so would only mean AI improved the global quality of art.
Instead I just tag all my work as AI art on pixiv to shit up the machine's average score. It also used to divide my views by 5 but these days it barely does, I think normies are starting to accept it as legitimate.

>>7016565
>Lineart
Well it was a messy draft I tried to clean up with horrible results but I will try to refine it
>overlap different things happening in ur drawing like her shirt ruffles.
I don't understand.
Do yhou mind if I use your redraw as reference to try to finish it?

>>7016883
cute

I NEED a course on rendering, anons, PLEASE. I am seething so badly when I see pieces with borked anatomy, proportions etc saved because the artist pulls off generic anime rendering so well.
PLEASE, ANON

the powerful Reilly method

hampton heads done, i can already see anatomy is gonna be a shitshow

First layer of oil, will continue tomorrow. I'm looking for artist that have some form of crossover of anime and oil (nsfw preferred)

>>7016657
>new wojak just dropped
Technically better, but it'll benefit you to do extensive studies on anatomy. You're still just symbol drawing body parts.

Just hair and I can proceed to outline

Lads help me out here. There is this figure reference site that lets you pose a 3d model the way you want your reference, and shows you images closest to how you posed the model. Anyone know what I'm talking about? I can't remember the site's name and forgot to bookmark it.

>>7015836
I think so
>>7016445
Is it the low contrast in the dark values or the shapes?

>>7016549
Give ‘em a base value

Crits on pose and eyes? Looks off somehow. I'm going for the look of art by jonsun/jonsunillust

I need critique, I don't think it came out sexy and warm as I wanted

>>7017105
Needs veiny tits and aerola peek.

>>7017059
>You're still just symbol drawing body parts.
What does that mean? Like using a circle for the upper skull or a trapezoid for the torso?

>>7017110
Still lacks volume, like the muscle or skull masses.
It's just the shape.

>>7017096
she's missing a stomach.

This one took me a few hours to do, and honestly I tried my best but it still looks pretty bad.

Her torso is too darn wide, and I need more experience with faces.

>>7017105
>sexy and warm
Try putting blush on the sexy and warm parts. The eyes also look a little dead with that lone highlight on the bottom of the pupil. I messed with the expression too but you don't have to.

>>7017190
you worked on it for hours. That's success on it's own. Good work! Reward yourself!

>>7017195
I did another drawing after that but it wasn't a from life drawing.

IT is nice to be able to actually draw what's in my head more easily, but I am not satisfied yet...though I feel my art has more charm than some other artists who just stagnate and never improve.

Not to sound egotistical, I still want to improve and am not satisfied quite yet.

>>7016265
thanks anon yeah the grayscale helped a ton and allowed me to focus more on what i wanted

>>7017196
Well, nothing wrong with confidence if you back it up with work.

I can give you a good tip tho, however. There is a more important issue in the drawing that seems like you did not notice

Check the length between her feet and her torso on the reference (using pic rel method), then between her torso and top of her head. Now compare this to your drawing.

>>7017067
Someone please answer this guy.
If such a site exists, it should be part of theOP

>>7017200
god she's pretty. need me a mongolian chieftain wife

>>7017067
https://x6ud.github.io/female-anatomy-for-artist-search-helper/#/

>>7017220
That's the one. Thanks man.

>>7017214
I will admit also I didn't mention, but her neck is DEFINITELY too long and was something I probably should have fixed more but decided not to.

It is an issue I still suffer from, where I don't quite get the measurements right still with my from life drawings.

any renderfags that can give some crit? particularly on torso?

>>7017122
This better?

Got frustated with human anatomy, so I retreated to drawing cartoons.

And a skull. Also, while trying to figure out digital drawing, it ocurred to me that my lines suffered because I wasn't rotating the canvas. When I did it was disorienting as hell. Does it get better with time, or should I try to stop relying on diagonals as much?

>>7017114
ah yeah, it's just an outline atm

I usually draw long enough hair which hides the skull-neck connection but you got a point, I should practice that

>>7017243
yeah i rotate constantly for comfortable stroke directions on digital
i do it in pencil, too, there are some stroke angles that are just impossible for me

I will start drawing more consistently again. Trying to get started after a month of inactivity fucking SUCKS.

ignore the contents of the pic please
how does one get their lineart to look like this?

>>7017297
>ignore the contents of the pic please
that's a lot to fucking ask man

Sup beg, 3 hours hit so i post despite the section still having like 20 gestures left. Feels beg.

>>7017243
some drawers rotate canvas like crazy, some never do. I am fan of not rotating anything and simply forcing my hand to eventually master lines in ALL directions
>>7017237
i am not a renderfag, but you are on right path. now ensure you are using full value range and make the pink at ~50% opacity or multiply or light mode: so the original skin tone is still "visible" under the light. you probably want to make the outline pink too
>>7016721
interesting way to do gestures. i kneel
>>7016610
>what if loomis was japanese
very cool heads
>>7016532
cute and funny thots
>>7016482
welcome to my world. that is why i picked up figure drawing and atm i am in middle of process bashing my head against wall. the green ones are all from memory (aka imagination)
>>7016468
until now i was instructed to construct my shit using balls, boxes or cylinders. that is why everything is so predictable and symmetric. anons shit on me saying i dont follow the instructions BUT I DO READ and FOLLOW THEM
>>7016424
nice cat thot
>>7016420
batman
>>7016235
that hair mass is unreadable and messes up with whole composition. use some ref for BIG haircuts and play more with highlights and forms. you cannot make the thing being in middle of canvas which is also the biggest so low details. other than that its godlike
>>7016126
good enough to collect patreon bucks from horny furfags. all you miss is color
>>7015891
feels a little stiff, all the curves are too "perfect, not human like". value range is also very poor. still nice and coomable
>>7015839
the redline IS the fix. going back and erasing mistakes is just wasting time, better to draw more figs instead
>>7017297
you can clearly see its brush with opacity+size=pressure and he goes multiple times over same line to make it super thick

>>7017297
it's always "ignore the subject matter" with you niggas

45 Degree Human Skull practice. Im trying to keep up with practice so hopefully I have something cool to draw by the end of January. Im trying to get a new artstyle that isnt toony.

>>7017304
>>7017297 here
can u be more specific?

>>7017325
Anon...
You're supposed to try when you practice. Use loomis ball and FEEL the form.

>>7017325
think less about details, like don't draw any teeth or small bumps in the bone
try to get the big shapes and their proportions correct

>>7017304
Thanks anon, i'll try to fix that

>>7017325
>1 2 3 4 4

?

>>7017353
The order I drew them in

>>7017325
>>7017353
>>7017363
certified trainwreck post

>>7016625

>>7017383
Thumbnail looks very fuckable.

>>7017383
why is she splitting into two different people? did she also get hit by a fourwheeler?

>>7017383
>>7017393

a.i. post

>>7017393

When I focus on proportions and accuracy, my drawings becomes stiff
When I focus on dynamism/gesture, my proportions becomes shit

How do I solve this?

>>7017397
keep going, actively address the issue when it happens, no placeholders, attack the problem part by part, spend as much time needed until you understand the problem and how to fix it, then apply

This one is basically already finished I'm just looking for rendering tips

>>7017399
alright, I'll continue trucking along
thanks

>>7017404
Rendering this would be like trying to polish a turn, focus on line work and anatomy first. For rendering just start with using flat colors, think in terms of a light source and the body as planes or 3d shapes

>got ignored by nigga pawell again
well I'M STILL STANDING
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye9hGotPPVk

Sketch.Wip I did. Might add a background or just ink it later

I feel like I am chipping away at my enclosure. I WILL make my epic saga.

>>7017240
needs more coomis

>>7017105
maybe work on the face more?

how do i draw an alluring flat belly.

>when the average school shooter kid draws better than you
also shading with a digital pencil sucks ASS

>>7017469
Nigga if I were your teacher I would be calling the cops on you.

>>7017481
i love it!

>>7015538
test

>>7017484
a mag and a lighter aren't that edgy.

>>7015621
Why have a blanket hiding her body? Wouldn't it be sexier if we could see both thighs? Removing it will also make the pose clearer in my opinion

>>7017505
How many edgier items do you have in your house citizen?

>>7017469
you are max 14 years old

>>7017509
that's about as edgy as it gets around here

>>7017511
unfortunately i'm like double that. anyway that's enough blogging, back to the grind.

https://files.catbox.moe/ovg82s.jpg

>>7017532
Kill yourself

working on this mimic girl

>>7017532
live yourself

>>7017427
thanks anon this helped a lot

Reference: >>7014353

Is it frowned upon to use the lasso and airbrush stuff as a /beg/? It's pretty easy compared to other shading techniques I've seen

>>7016184

Fwap
wish i was faster
>>7017532
What's vegeta doing there?

Some quicksketch/gestures. Amorphous, doughy chink women are ridiculously hard to draw. It seems like it’s mostly Asian refs that display such accursed formlessness. I wonder if it’s the lighting they use or something.

Btw, anyone got any good hyper angle refs? Ideally nude photos of shredded models with strong dramatic lighting, but… I’ll take anything. Seems especially hard to find refs of this stuff
>>7017241
Very nice!
>>7017279
Good job starting back up again! It’s a lot harder after 2 years lol
>>7017190
I recommend Betty Edwards or Proko or Eviston’s beg course to learn to see accurately. This is not bad for a beginner, good job
>>7017064
Well, you need more practice just like all of us. For example the central figure’s proportions are a bit weird and the build isn’t very feminine. But using different colors and opacities to keep overlapping figures organized is a great idea. I’mma remember that if I ever get ambitious enough to attempt something so audacious. Respect, anon. You inspire me.
>>7017014
That middle one is a good-ass head. You’ll be fine
>>7016971
I’m thinking of tracking down some watts stuff and looking into Reilly some more
>>7016883
Hey, good job. Looks very nice. Was this faster than your usual process?
>>7016721
I love these
>>7016662
>>7016322
So far your only weakness is maybe hands and feet. I always enjoy your work
>>7016384
Keep it up! This is how you develop the arcane power of feeling the form
>>7015978
NTA, but good advice here
>>7015952
Betty Edwards and then Proko’s beg course. Also the first few lessons of DrawABox will give you a good foundation in construction, which is 3d modeling on a 2d surface. But do Betty’s book first. That will teach you to draw what you actually see and not what you think you see
>>7016184
Marc brunet’s (and Vilppu’s) vids on rendering will help you invent shading without a specific light source
>>7015910
Oh, nice armpit! Also Finn & the face are great
>>7017655
Nice job!

I
HATE
OVALS
AAAAAAAAAAA

>>7017554
Huwhoa, looks good. I’ve got a thing for monster girls. I’d probably lighten the crease between her bicep and forearm to make it more subtle and less jarring. I think her left (on our right) hand is perhaps a little small, like maybe there’s not enough palm. Overall very nice though! I’d personally add saliva cuz I’m degenerate like that.
>>7017681
Yeah ellipses can be as hard to draw as flabby Japanese girls in diffuse light

>>7015538
disregard perfection, have fun

>>7015538

>>7017383

>>7016576
I like your work, got any full pieces you wanna share?

Hey, I did a pretty bad drawing of the Heavy's Minigun from TF2.
I'm new to this & don't if this is the right place to post it but here you go.

I'm going to try & draw more from now on but do you guys have any advice for staying motivated to practice when you're bad at it?

>>7017791
>do you guys have any advice for staying motivated to practice when you're bad at it?
Do you like drawing? If you do, no problem. If you don't, it's never going to happen.

trying scribble gesture drawing, this could be much better

>>7017791
Try and make it just a constant habit. Keep something to draw with/on by the toilet. Ban yourself from laying in bed until you've drawn at least a single line that day. Only masturbate while trying to sketch with your free hand.
Basically, your goal is to brain wash yourself so you keep practicing even when your motivation hits negative, which it is guaranteed to do multiple times before you ever git gud.

Did some heels today as I want my next original piece to have them in it

R = ref
i = imagination
t = target for comic panel im going to do

On the fundamentals grind; been on it for while and seeing some growth slowly but surely, but you can always improve the approach.

Do people find it better to scrutinize their practice in the process of practicing, or do people find it better to just practice--places the lines, don't sweat the details--and scrutinize at a later time and make corrections?

An example would be: should I practice rotating boxes and cylinders without getting bogged down in erasing and replacing lines to make the result "perfect," or should I just try to streamline the process, assess the results, and re-attempt?

Is there any risk in associating with this website and being connected with your social media if you don't post anything controversial? Like idk, some autist getting offended on you drawing women and doxxing you, or some bored SJW assuming youre a nazi cause you post on 4chan and trying to ruin you. (Yes Im a paranoid schizo)

>>7017823
I did see people posting their socials which featured their faces and theyre still alive so I guess its not bad

>>7015952
Figure drawing is a basic homie

>>7017776
Kek, fucking based

>>7017902

>>7017823
>Is there any risk in associating with this website and being connected with your social media if you don't post anything controversial?
not really

>>7017903

Drew this purely by sighting without construction, I think it came out okay but drawing fat people and not making them weird is very hard. Do any of the anatomy books focus on more American body types?

>>7017911
Morpho has a booklet about it but it’s mostly morbidly obese people, not the "disgusting but I still would ngl" type

>>7017823
lmao 4chan is nowhere near as edgy as it was pre-2017. at this point we're just a slightly more racist version of reddit

>>7018001
great job anon. minor nitpick, I think her left forearm might be a little bit too small

>>7017655
its my main Fonline Reloaded char, Onan. Not Vegeta. Want to know more?

>>7017557
im doing that. Do you have any comment on my drawing?

>>7018001
pretty cool, i like the ribcage

Frieren copy and some gestures

>>7015538
i gave up on drawabox around L4 (FUCK those bugs) and tried to use what i "learned," fuck man. i guess i'm not starting from absolute zero but i almost wish i was. dongho kim take me away.

>>7018088
That's cool, anon. How much time did it take?
You should probably put more heavy marks in the torso region, it's pretty murky and undefined.

>>7018120
looks great

>>7018124
thank you but i truly have no concept of proportion or anatomy. only boxes and perspective which "helps" but not by a lot. i think for my next waste of time i will try my hardest and do the 250 box thing again, but with body parts, and see what i get. i have a "real" drawing class this semester (i am computer science but one core class was full so i spent money to fill the time with a needless drawing elective) and i am excited to see what i can do there as well. in the meantime my sketchbook will be boxkin people just so pen is touching paper.

>>7018119
>You should probably put more heavy marks in the torso region, it's pretty murky and undefined.
yes im going darker as i go. i feel like i went a bit too dark on the left but i havent used black and white yet so when i put those in it could fix it.
>How much time did it take?
like an hour total but im not done yet

>thread almost done.
First drawing/self portrait of the year let's gooo.

Decided to get out of comfort zone with a weird face(was going for a das it mane meme thing), but some subconscious flattering also got in now that I put them side by side.
feels more fucked than usual, but was fun.
Lips gave me the hardest time; mindbroke me.
Will post anime later of course.
>>7017823
Kek.

>>7017781
>>7011132

>>7018134
You may not like it but boxes in perspective are already giving you massive gains, especially towards proportion like in your robot. It's a tried and proven construction method due to how easy boxes are to move around and measure, you just have to build on top of it.

Shill my a simple and effective method of construction. I've been winging it and it's not efficient at all.

>>7018165
stupid sexy boxes.

>>7018001
Blog?
I really like your style

>>7018165
damn they got really abstract with the construction on the rightmost

ill finish it tomorrow

>>7016437

>>7018154
Chad move and drawing, I kneel. You look like Zyzz so I dropped down and did 10 pushups too. WAGMI.

>>7017823
you will never be important enough for this to matter.

>>7018134
>>7018120
That stupid fucking mudslime nigger can't draw anything but a shoebox to save his fucking life.
You already got down how to draw a box in perspective and assemble boxes in perspective? Good. You already got everything useful you will get from that shitpile.
He won't teach you human figures because the bastard can't draw anything but a goddamn box.

>>7016437
You don't want to end up making gains?

>>7015637
Guys critiquing lack of nose are just copeing. Great lineart and gesture

>>7015910
Cute finn, but i dint think the shadow would look like that


>>7015981
Dante dude
>>7017237
Bellow the navel there should some purple light unless she’s some kind of thinspo queen

>>7017669
Cool


First ever attempt at rendering. Any tips on color and render in general!

>>7018250
yeah after growing dissatisfied with l4 i decided to crack on a bit and just do the other lessons for fun, it become obvious that once his knowledge becomes spotty the name of the game is to string people along and get that patreon money... lessons 1-3 and the associated challenges? ok sure, a pretty mechanical way for autists to build up some muscle memory and basics. but for me it became worthwhile to seek instruction elsewhere.

>>7018266
people like you make these threads worth visiting

>>7018269
I hate that fucker with a burning passion.
He used to have a human figure drawing lesson next to the bugs and shit but it was so fucking stupid and mediocre and his figures were so goddamn stiff and fucked and all of them WERE FUCKING BOXY as if they were anthro Legos that he just removed them with a cope "I-it will be refined later, bros."

Done

Sup beg. Gestures!

>>7017822
depends entirely on your current goal. for example if you are on gesture grind like me at the moment, then trying to "correct" the gesture takes longer than drawing new one. but if you are trying to render then correcting mistakes is literally learning how to render
>>7017791
you either want something and then you naturally DO it. or you DONT want it. simple as
>>7017776
i kneel
>>7017606
there are no rules, only tools. some begs misuse air brush thinking they can use it literally everywhere on everything. that is the problem
>>7017522
>>7017502
coomable
>>7017481
he looks like he is asking for it
>>7017469
>>7017325
needs more keys to drawing
>>7017415
i have very convoluted decision making to who i (You). lack of (You) from me doesnt really mean anything concrete. For example if somebody already replied and said what i wanted to say i wont (You) that post
>>7017404
that torso is TOO LONG and i dont think you can turn your head so much backwards without tilting it
>>7017397
many art books said the same thing: you always start with gesture to keep the flow and life of drawing. then you ensure the gesture has acceptable level of accuracy and proportions
>>7017316
booba
>>7017329
not really. even fresh new beg who has painted only for a couple of hours in KRITA will know from that brief description how to adjust brush to do what i just described. Use key F5 to bring up the brush customization menu and simply look for labels SIZE and then TRANSPARENCY
>>7018307
very nice. INT

>>7018307
wow you made something AI can do in 10 seconds

>>7018315
Wait till you hear how much time it took your momma to shit out a gigantic loser like you.

>>7017779

Read part of framed ink and feel like I improved just from doing that. Here's the draws for the day.

>>7018266
yeah I realized the shadow wasn't correct but I wanted to show Fern's outline clearly and for the ring to mimic Finns arms :P

>>7018001
Holy shit anon this is good

>>7018307
good job anon it looks great

>>7018001
NEEDS VEINS ON THE FUCKING TITTTTTIES OMG

>first times drawing and showing
>Can't handle criticism well
>Drawing shit now
>Demand criticism to improve
Is this normal? I feel like I almost enjoy people tearing at my stuff so I can get motivated to draw again and improve the weak areas.

>>7017705
>lighten the crease between her bicep and forearm
how's this?

Also thanks for the saliva idea, it was fun adding it

>>7018309
>booba
Indeed

>>7018336
How does she see?

How does she reproduce? It looks like it'd be hard to spread the legs

>>7018321
Try focusing on proportions. The head should generally be 1/3 the width of the shoulders, from end to end (or viceversa, the full breadth of the shoulders is thrice the width of the head). And elbows tend to be located at the same height as the navel.

>>7018338
>How does she see?
uhhh magic ig. How do regular mimics see?
maybe I should add some eyes somewhere

>It looks like it'd be hard to spread the legs
her legs extend into the chest so there should be enough room
or u could just bend her over

>>7018321
Use proportions

Google some online resources

Put the properly proportioned image to the side and try to draw the lines of it as best you can

It'll suck ass at first but you can't get better if you don't try it

>>7018001
it's been 5 years, time to draw a background kurwa

>>7018357
>all these colored bars
>doesn't have the single best measurement
One simple to find measurement covers everything including arms, works on kids/animu just as well as adults because the torso+head the stays same relative to limbs.
Cubits are king.

Do you guys erase your line work until they look good? I don't mean Ctrl+z I mean like using the eraser tool to fix it(someone here called it "line sculpting" one time).

anyone know of a good planner? i've been all over the place lately and need to make a learning schedule or some shid

looks like sycra's channel got hacked or he sold it
shame, I remember looking at his boobs tutorial ages ago

>>7018393
yeah even if the line is accurate i'll erase/lighten/restate it until i like how it looks

>>7017304
>good enough to collect patreon bucks from horny furfags. all you miss is color
Good tips, thanks

>>7018437
your stuff looks really appealing. Just a shame to waste it on degen porn.

I have no idea how the fuck eyebrows work and I can't find a single tutorial to help me
I got so pissed at this hyper specific roadblock I have that I didn't draw for 2 months and am now trying to get past it again to no avail

>>7018381
It was just a quick Google example for him

But I might try cubits, working with heads and proportions has its limitations

>>7018447
>I can't find a single tutorial to help me
its because no tutorial or info about how to draw and understand them exists, brows are the ultimate filter, nobody is going to teach you about them, you are pretty much stuck here at this point

>>7018454
Ok good the mandatory unhelpful faggot replied so that's out of the way early

>>7018448
yeh, heads are okay for setting the total height but then it goes off a cliff when you decide the height is 6.5 heads or something.

good ways to get down 3 point perspective? been drawing a bunch of cubes which has been pretty cool. should I just force myself to try and get down basic human bodies in 3point? since characters in perspective is my goal

>>7018477
If you're happy with your cubes, use them to represent parts of the body. I strongly recommend the first few videos of the Marshall Vandruff Bridgman course for that.
It's Marshall so they're wordy and overlong, but it's good shit. Get to when he talks about the three masses and grind that shit first

>>7018447
they just sit on top of the brow line? if you can find the brow line you can draw eyebrows

>>7018477
>>7018481
The entire course is on Youtube, by the way.

>>7018447
Try draw two rectangles in perspective. And shape them in to eyebrow shape. Just remember, depending on the angle part of the eyebrow will disappear as it wraps around the side of the face/head

I did a Misato, feedback?

>>7018519
Looks good

Lines are a bit rough and jagged though, personally I like them smoother.

>>7018504
>>7018481
can i just skip to when he talks about the masses so I can grind it? or do you actually recommend to watch him till he gets to that point

>>7018531
For your purposes I'd say skip, but the course is worth watching

>>7017425
It's looking good, anonymoose

>>7018113
Does this particualr style of construction have a name? It looks more useful than what I do

>>7015538
Would absolutely love it if someone found the horizon line for this picture because I’ve been trying but just haven’t been successful. I think it’s at the very top but it causes so much distortion when I try to do it from there . If anyone could map out where the station point is as well I’d love that.

sketch

>>7018693
why use a horizon line if you don't need one? it's like using a hammer to eat, tools are in service of the painter not the other way around

>>7018693
there's slight rotations on the dif books, and the other one has a different set of vps, but you get the point.

>>7018694

>>7018713
The chibi you made is so cute. I wish I could draw chibi without I looking cursed.

>>7018309
>he
pawell-san...

>>7018703
Very helpful, thank you.

>>7018698
How do you make sense of 2 point perspective if there’s no horizon line? I thought you always needed one

>>7017074
The shapes both sides are way to complex try having one side really simple pretty straight and the opposite complex. But yes I don't understand what I'm seeing, just an open hand and some kind of male with headphones, or just a stripper.

>>7018761
>>7018698
Horizon line is the viewers eye line
It's always there, yes you always need one.

>>7018761
You should disregard the posts of obvious lunatics.

I downloaded a shitload of these and I still can't even draw an anime/manga face. Does anyone have a good detailed guide?

>>7018868
keys to drawing + your favorite manga.

>>7018868
anime is several genres. What specific style do you want to emulate? I would say the key thing you want to focus on is proportions of the face, where the eyes fall, how large they are, where the nose is. What I wish I had learned first when I started drawings was paying attention to these things.

Try grabbing stuff from your favourite series and breaking down the proportions to figure out how they do it. Spend time actively think about this while you draw.

fwap, having trouble deciphering details in loomis' old folks heads drawings.

>>7019045
if you are following along with fwap it's because these are cartoons. don't worry about details, because he isn't.

I didn’t draw for this thread. I won’t draw for the next.

And one day you'll find someone who cares.

>>7019067
>>7019067
>>7019067
>>7019067

>>7018605
It's from hide-channel on youtube, a japanese art teacher. Just google "easy croquis level1" o

Got my character here; on the fence about which leg style to use, especially since I'm trying to draw him standing front-facing

(Reposting this here because furry art thread didn't respond)