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7014537 No.7014537 [Reply] [Original]

What are things that will make you quit art?
Where will you draw the line and put down the pen?

>> No.7014539

You made this thread already

>> No.7014571

Man im glad that I dont and never will do Art for a living

>> No.7014574

>>7014537
An injury.

>> No.7014596

These 'artists' have no individuality or soul, they only imitate popular rules, which is why they are terrified by the rise of AI: they are the 'master of soulless generality'.

>> No.7014597

Here we go again

>> No.7014600

I'm going to quit singing in the shower. The rise of autotune was the last straw.

>> No.7014613

>>7014537
what a fucking dramatic baby

>> No.7014616

>>7014537
When that retard telling I’m a beg will stop, probably never so

>> No.7014651

>>7014537
They're only quitting digital art.
They're becoming a traditional artist now (based).
Is what I wish I could say, everybody knows she'll stop posting for a week or two then go back making the genuine trash slop they're spamming.

>> No.7014657

>>7014651
This exactly. Do these people ever get tired of whoring for attention, or is it like oxygen for them?

“So broken” from absolutely nothing at all.

>> No.7014662 [DELETED] 

>>7014539
>>7014571
>>7014574
>>7014596
>>7014597
>>7014600
>>7014613
>>7014616
>>7014651
>>7014657
built 4 bbc

>> No.7014671
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7014671

People still care about AI art?

I will assume that this is just some nigger whoring for attention

>> No.7014680

>>7014662
yep, Big Brush (and) Canvas

>> No.7014712

>>7014537
how are you so fragile lmao just draw

>> No.7014753

>>7014712
pyw

>> No.7014756
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>>7014753

>> No.7014765
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>>7014537
I don't sympathize with fat roasties

>> No.7014771

>>7014537
I will quit art when I live in a world shaped by my image. If everywhere I go is me. I have nothing to more create.

>> No.7014808

>>7014537
kill yourself poojeet pooinda

>> No.7014810

>>7014537
Maybe if they didn't have an artstyle that looks like bland ai work they would be less demoralized.
Also, it says digital art, not all art, they probably got other artforms to work on.

>> No.7014812
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7014812

I did for a few years,when this went away.

Covid ate my finances, and I lost both hosting and the domain name, and that wound up cyber-squatted by China,buying it for no other reason than ransom. I was doing a long form story,and was at #180 when stuff went kablooee.

But after stewung in gaming for a few years,I stumbled upon a bag of marijuana at the workplace, and I was able to draw or at least want to draw again.

>> No.7014815
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7014815

>>7014765
Why burger people like pizzas that burnt cheese, never saw pics like this from the green goes I talked before

>> No.7014837

>>7014537
if my studies in religion and philosophy unveil a method to make anime real i will stop drawing girls in voids

>> No.7015196

>>7014537
Nothing
and as long as your answer is "Nothing," no one has any power over you.

>> No.7015201

>>7014537
>other people do things unrelated to me
>I will now destroy my own life
I don't get why people do this

>> No.7015209
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>>7015201
Only a no-draw would say the two are unrelated

>> No.7015218

>>7014537
When I lose my mind and play Minecraft irl.

>> No.7015221

>>7014815
how about you go fuck yourself you god damn piece of shit i wish your mom had aborted you

>> No.7015226

>>7015209
reddit moment

>> No.7015235

>>7015201
it’s not unrelated, you’re a shoe cobbler at the start of automated shoe manufacturing
your shoes are better, but the shoe labels will flood the market with cheaper shoes and everyone will get used to shittier shoes and start seeing yours as a luxury
then most cobblers can no longer sustain themselves from their work and like 99% move on
picture making is moving back from an industrial component to a rare art form, and once things come along, so will photography
get ready to see ai 24/7, lean manufacturing is everything in economics

>> No.7015242

these are the same people who shit on you for being too focused on le numbers
>"you need to stop caring about how many likes and followers you have!"
>"I don't care about if my tweets get a lot of likes or not, I just like to draw! :)"
>AI comes in
>"why do I even try? AI has destroyed my motivation... there's no reason to keep going!!! waahh waahhh wahhh"

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7015246

>>7015242

>> No.7015263

>>7014812
How do you color it like that? I like this. It reminds me of the youth and when computer age just started

>> No.7015268
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7015268

>>7014537
I'll quit too if I'm a self-high five narcissist nutjob like that.

>> No.7015373

>>7015263
Everything was colored in Photoshop, assembled from bits and forged into that. It was around from 2011 to 2020,and I made the website using some drag n drop program from the late 90s.

I keep hearing how the strips are hard to read and cramped, but I displayed them nearly full screen to offset that. Perhaps people forgot how to zoom

>> No.7015378

>>7014537
Genuine question, why did you make this thread? Like you obviously made it to post this AI demoralization picture, but why did you do that? Are you artist who is afraid of AI and who seeks some second-hand coping arguments? Are you AI forcer who, for some reason, only active within community of actual artists and not in AI threads on other boards? Are you just a schizo and you don't really understand why yourself?

>> No.7015398

>>7015373
Fullscreen doesn't fix the paneling problem you have, and sentences look too long for the amount of characters on screen that it becomes cluttered with words.

>> No.7015400

>imma quit art because le ai
>She just has those 3 drawings and a bunch of doodles
>rest is just selfies, food or her dog
>you just know
Doesn't it translate into
>"pls i've tried but still not making le big moneeh pls subscribe am girl btw"
?

i though it was baboon ass lips guy at first

>> No.7015431

>>7014651
the smelly bitch in the op has never posted a single one of his traditional artworks

>> No.7015433

>>7015221
She did im a ghost you monkey

>> No.7015523

>>7014815
It's called caramelization retard, burnt = black and cooked = golden brown. Melted goo is just Pizza Hut tier trash.

>> No.7015525 [DELETED] 

>>7015523
He’s a shit skin, he doesn’t know the difference

>> No.7015626

>>7015523
you don’t cook cheese, retard

>> No.7015628

>>7015431
You didn't even read what I said

>> No.7015630

>>7015626
Nta but cope.

>> No.7015679
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7015679

>>7015626

>> No.7016178

>>7015209
faggot
>>7015235
ai is slop and only going to replace slop artists. Being afraid of it is basically admitting that all you make is slop

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7016209

reminder that the people making AI threads are like the ones in picrel, sad psychotic individuals that believe shitposting on 4chan has some kind of greater purpose

>> No.7016211
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>>7015626
>he doesnt know the wonders of frying cheese in a pan
I pity your pathetic existence.

>> No.7016216

>>7016209
kek, also no one comes here to get reviews about videogames or anything, all the people are in youtube where they just watch a guy elaborate his point.
Truly retarded people.
Same with "socialmedia artists" that are desilusional because of ai, most of them normalfags that only draw for the socialmedia interaction and nothing more, then you have stupid people that want to follow the same path, and later all the normal people that care little to zero about ia because there is an already years, decades, centuries, old work system in traditional media private and commercial to work.
Real artists are gonna be creating shit with a stick and shit that has color like the cavemen, to using eggs and shit that give you cancer, to pasing hours to make a box take a picture, to film shit, to futuristic computational nanoshit of the future, the rest are just faggots.

>> No.7016218

>>7015268
woah i take back all my anger i want to have sex with her mouth

>> No.7016224

I’ll never quit art because it’s fun and makes me happy. Its cool seeing when you get better. AI can never take that away from me.

>> No.7016225

>>7015242
These two thoughts have 0 connection to eachother. You're making up random people to be mad at and projecting it onto this person who's the main character today. Lmao what a weird freak you are. Get a diary.

>> No.7016249

>>7015246
>monumental seethe

>> No.7016381

>>7016224
>>7014596
>>7014671
People are retards and seeing the AI as competition, when you should see it as yet another tool on your digital arsenal along PS/SAI/CSP/Krita itself. I've been drawing for 15 years and I use my art skill to great effect when generating art, I make a quick doodle then img2img it to see how it would look finished, I take the best gen, upscale it and manually add the final details, make corrections, add extra effects in PS and that's that, what would have taken me days before now takes an hour at best and I have all the fun of drawing without any of the frustration.
The average /beg/ and proompter peasants will never match me.

>> No.7016412

>>7016381
good for you

>> No.7016470

>>7015268
Lmao she draws her characters similar to her especially the lips.

>> No.7016481

>>7014537
Look
Basically I'm just not gonna stop it (drawing)
I know.. UGH I know..
IM SORRY!
It's just that I'm not stopping it is all
Hahahaha

>> No.7016484

>>7014537
does she only draw princess peach? wtf? why does almost everyone draw her

>> No.7016491

>>7016481
based

>> No.7016500

>>7016381
I tried it
But nah.
It's completely inapplicable asa tool. Not even reference as I would rather trace actual photos

>> No.7016541

>>7016211
>t. deep fried butter on a stick enjoyer

>> No.7016563

>>7014537
He just said digital art, probably because Wacom are backstabbers and using AI. There's no alternative to Wacom (no matter how much they shill Huion here) so he's just saying he's going back to traditional.
I'm doing that too because fuck this lawless, data harvesting landscape. I don't want to wind up in someone's AI database having to fight the law to get my art out that I did not consent to have in it to begin with. It's just a better age to be a trad artist right now and it might ironically make a traditional artist uprising.

>> No.7016620
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7016620

you can still do art, draw a sketch and use it as input for AI, fix hands in AI drawings, stuff like that,

>> No.7017846

>>7016620
That would require people who use AI knowing how to draw. (they don't that's why they started using it).

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7017977

>>7017846
Do you really believe what you just said?
Do you also believe photographers use a camera because they can not draw?

>> No.7018018

>>7017977
You want to show us a photographer who draws?

>> No.7018029

>>7017977
>Do you also believe photographers use a camera because they can not draw?
Yes? Because one is a photographer and the ohter is a artist that draws
Photography /= drawer. Aislopper /= drawer, they don't overlap.

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7018071

>>7016541
>deep fried butter on a stick
I looked that up, shit looks painfully unhealthy lmao.
Picrel is what I meant. This thing is godly.

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>>7014537
these faggots are like 18yo white whores looking for attention
sickening.
>I decided to quit digital art wahh wahhh
they talk like they could do anything decent with an actual pencil or brush
stfu nigger faggot

>> No.7018140

>>7018018
>>7018029
of course every professional photographer is fixing pictures with Photoshop and doing at least basic drawing and graphic design, it's part of the job

You guys can not really believe pictures come out flawless of a camera? magically

>> No.7018143

>>7018086
Sauce? What medium is this?

>> No.7018146

>>7014537
It's definitely over for everybody "drawing" this kind of anime (soft) porn crap. AI can shit out loads of this in no time, just have a look at

>>>/h/hdg
>>>/e/sdg
>>>/d/ddg
>>>/b/degen
>>>/vt/vtai
>>>/aco/sdg
>>>/trash/sdg
>>>/soc/ai+nude

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>> No.7018259

>>7018149
イラスト最速上達法【完全版】
1.理想の自分の絵を探す
B是界分罗拿想不品老描<
3.自分の絵とお手本を
見比べる
1..Findyouridealillustration14.その一点に絞って練習
?aDrawanorfolnalwortwith5.練習した事を反映して
that person's pattern
3... Compare your illustration with the model
2に戻る

>> No.7018261
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7018261

『イラスト最速上達法 -解-』ダウンロード版

>> No.7018264
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7018264

<パーツについての考察)
全体の間にニ
全体にではなくて個々のパーツ 正確ではない。 礙的 盛パースを
アイレベルの意識
+をある程度意識するで ダイナミックな横になる気がする。
奥行きの意識として地上 記愛されるパーツを意識すると良いのかもしれない。 (手でなく涙に向クパーツ)
239
画面に対して平行な国をへらず 事も、より立体的にモチーフを見せる ことにつながる.
「空間にゆるやかなろをかる
・立体空間に記している そのためのポーズ。工
大きめに。 印象的なパノロ
手前、行きの
パーツの大きな橋をわかりやすく
スケール
反り返りを使うことによって、パーツの単調さを 回避する効果がある気がする。
238

>> No.7018288

>>7018140
>photo editing is drawing
>gd is drawing
lol retard
ywnbaa

>> No.7018440
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7018440

>>7018143
probably my favorite illustrator atm, discovered him this past year. Jun Suemi. His good works are all oil on canvas(might have used acrylics here and there)

>> No.7018492

>>7018071
Im the anon that caused the derailing about the pizza, yeah that thing you posted looks really good but this >>7014765 still a crime against nature.

>> No.7018505

>>7018146
plenty of these people were already basically tracing over model poses and adding an anime head before coloring. It's over for pinup artists but the moment you need to draw people interacting with objects or each other AI starts shitting the bed. Literally all the OP has to do is have Peach getting fucked by Bowser or something instead of just lying on a bunch of mushrooms. Hell, the OP's images look AI generated anyway

>> No.7018522

The only thing that will make me give up on art is if I die, I enjoy the process and think about it every time I don't need to focus on putting effort into anything else

>> No.7018604

>>7018071
Gross

>> No.7018688

>>7016381
>yeah dude I hire another artist to make stuff I call my art, just a tool dude.

>> No.7018865

>just had a wave of jealousy, envy, and regret hit me
>Everyone around me is just faster, better, pumps out sketches that can pass as finished things, moving on to bigger projects, drawing with other draw friends probably having fun, being successful and I'm still at what feels like level one for 10+ years
>have to unironically redo how I draw heads holy fucking shit I hate my art
Thinking of quitting so I can stop myself from having these shitty person thoughts

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7018904

>>7014537
>What are things that will make you quit art?
>Where will you draw the line and put down the pen?
There's really nothing that would make me quit art. What a stupid question. Why would you even ask it?

>> No.7018908

I've been a permabeg for so long I've grown to resent people who can draw well. It's affected my enjoyment of comics and animation. I feel the need to reach a level where I will no longer be envious, even if realistically I'll never get there. So yeah, nothing can make me quit

>> No.7019034

>>7014537
>>7015268
what a beautiful fuck mouth, hope she'll do onlyfools soon

>> No.7019054

>>7014537
When/If I break my hand/become blind.
I WILL draw big titty furry girls until the day that I die.

>> No.7019077

>>7019054
Hell, breaking my hand wouldn't completely stop me. I'd either try to get it to heal or challenge myself by using my other hand even if it's shit.
That said if I ever go blind I'm roping

>> No.7019190

>>7018288
it IS drawing, just like painting your nails IS painting

>> No.7019328
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>>7014537
imagine all the whining of the fag artists quiting art in 1822 with first photography lmao

>> No.7019346

>>7019328

> As the photographic industry was the refuge of every would-be painter, every painter too ill-endowed or too lazy to complete his studies, this universal infatuation bore not only the mark of a blindness, an imbecility, but had also the air of a vengeance. I do not believe, or at least I do not wish to believe, in the absolute success of such a brutish conspiracy, in which, as in all others, one finds both fools and knaves; but I am convinced that the ill-applied developments of photography, like all other purely material developments of progress, have contributed much to the impoverishment of the French artistic genius, which is already so scarce. It is nonetheless obvious that this industry, by invading the territories of art, has become art’s most mortal enemy, and that the confusion of their several functions prevents any of them from being properly fulfilled.

― Charles Baudelaire, On Photography, from The Salon of 1859

>> No.7019357
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>>7019346
Lel, this anon in pic rel is probably that guy reincarnated.

>> No.7019396

>>7014537
digital cartoons aren't art in the first place so who cares

>> No.7019416

>>7019328
Well desu lots of portrait and landscape artists quit art when cameras were invented hence why surrealism and abstract art got popular

>> No.7019427

>>7019328
>being sad about your career and passion being ruined is whining
Honestly art only got more and more faggy after photography

>> No.7019440

>>7016470
Nigga please

>> No.7019452
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7019452

>>7019427
>>7019416
it went creative overdrive even in terms of landscape / portrait figurative art

>> No.7019466

>>7014537
I'm going to be 100% unironic about this, but the amount of sexual harassment and rape I have seen in art school and ateliers is astounding. "b-but wome-" I've met both female and male victims. Hell, I've met three different dudes who never met each other tell me they have been harassed by a famous (male) atelier owner in my city.

It is incredible the insane number of victims an excellent artist can make and still be protected by his/her community.

I took a real two-year hiatus from art after a real proved by police and ended in conviction/imprisonment case that happened close to me.

I love art and find real joy in it, but the chance that someone who got good at it is a freak is HIGH.

These days I'm close to finishing my degree in art education and next year I want to pursue a master's researching how the fuck someone can successfully study drawing/painting without having to suck someone's cock (figuratively and literally)

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7019593

>>7018904
Based Kazuki Takahashi enjoyer

>> No.7019617

>>7016381
Ew

>> No.7019635

I've been using AI to make art for the last 2 weeks after giving up on drawing.
AMA

>> No.7019642

>>7019635
Define giving up.
I don't truly think anyone gives up a skill they've learned. You can go back to drawing at anytime you want to. Unless you're talking about posting and farming clout on social media

>> No.7019647

>>7016381
"it's just another tool" fag strikes again

>> No.7019648 [DELETED] 

>>7019642
"Giving up" as in
>Probably never going to spend time drawing ever again

I got pretty okay at drawing, but what's the point. It would take me a few more years to get REALLY good at drawing, and just imagine what AI generators can do then...
After messing around with SD1.5 and SDXL for a bit, I can 100% with full certainty say that AI art is the future.
If models nowadays are already as sophisticated as they are, I simply don't see a future where human art has a place in the commercial art world.
Ofcourse people will still draw for fun, but I'm not one of those people. To me, art was always just a means to an end. I want to create my own series, my own comics, my own animations.
Now that AI basically allows anyone to do that with absolutely 0 skill required, I simply don't see the point anymore to learn how to draw.
Soon even animation will be AI generated.
Everyone will be able to make episodes of anime with a few words and the click of a button.
Humans simply can't compete.

>> No.7019686

>>7019635
I've been using AI as reference xd

>> No.7019694

>>7014537
>ART IS DEAD ART IS DEAD ART IS DEA-
Kys

>> No.7019701

>>7014537
never. if i stop drawing, i lose purpose. if i stop drawing, what is the point? there is no point to my person; im better off killing myself.
if i had no choice, or if my arms were blown off somehow, i would kill myself. there is no lie there.

>> No.7019906

>>7019701
It’s a thin line between love and hate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2oc1ynfIwk

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7020296

lol haha

3rd worlders will continue to underprice commissions meanwhile companies move towards AI more and more

>> No.7020325

>>7019466
Not shocked at all

>> No.7020352

>>7020296
You do realize eventually it'll all come crumbling down not for the small guy, but companies like Squeenix, right? The day 1 man can make an entire feature film solo with the assistance of these tools is when it's over (for them).

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>>7014537
honestly i dunno what i'll do if i were to give up, like this guy said >>7019701 drawing is the only thing that gives me purpose, that gives me something to do. without it im nothing and to take my ability away will be soul crushing however there have been people who manage to do things without limbs like Shiro Kotobuki the character designer of Rumble Roses who got in a car accident and was paralyzed but still managed to draw before he died
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDLoleIfAro
however i don't think i'll have the will to draw like he did
and instead probably flay myself like Zombie Spider-Man did when he failed to cure himself with the mystical stone tablet and instead caused the zombie outbreak to start all over again in a different dimension and because of this failure he decided he will be Peter Parker no more and instead be Zombie Spider-Man so I too will rip my own skin off and throw it away in a nearby alley where now i will walk the street as nothing but muscle and sinew while the blood drips from my exposed flesh until i collapse from being unable to bear the anguish of failure, suffering and pain

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>>7014537
>What are things that will make you quit art?
Getting my head blown off or being eaten by a tiger
>Where will you draw the line and put down the pen?
I'm always drawing lines but I put down the pen when I get tired of drawing all day and go to sleep so I can do it the next day
>b-b-but what about A B C D E F or G?
imagine caring

>> No.7021198

>>7020352
2 more weeks sirs

>> No.7021199

>>7020296
SE also tried to pass NFTs and other tech scams on their products. They will say whatever it needs to be said to make investors happy.
They are also using midjourney shit for this, which is hilarious considering this a pathetic attempt to steal Splatoon's crowd.

>> No.7021256

>>7016381
I won't legitimize generative AI in any way, shape or form.

>> No.7021268

>>7020296
>companies move towards AI more and more
this is just logical, companies make money by selling products, artists or employees of any kind are just a cost factor

>> No.7021317
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>>7015398
The rambling story that encompasses 180+ strips was never meant to be "product",because I had launched a different story and I gearing up for a weekly update to generate steady traffic. But...I got a girlfriend, and stupid white knight that I am,I was forced to give gentlemanly support to her in various waiting rooms. So I brought a new sketchbook, drew a random demon head,then decided to explain its existence. And suddenly the story galloped away. So these were posted instead,whatever I thought up half asleep and composed then and there. I acknowledge its flaws as a Product, and would not charge money for them as is,but as a whole.

What would DreamWorks make of this? These are notes for a Director, to realize it as a scene in the Show,whatever form it takes. I was fascinated by the story,and hinted at dark mysteries and over years saw them realized. A participant more than its creator,I was more concerned about putting enough Stuff in each episode, and I had 3 storylines going simultaneously with different characters doing their part in the drama,introducing some that I drew as a kid,but with revised back stories. It had pain,comedy,revelation and raw emotions on display. I want to continue it someday,but now I have very limited time to draw. But also consider that I started this in 2011,and smart phones were still science fiction, and my target market was someone who will see the website full screen,making the flaws more forgivable.

This is what I am doing now,another spur of the moment strip,but I am time lapse videoing myself drawing it. The world will see the story unfold before their eyes.

Flaws and all.

>> No.7021330

>>7014596
this
soulposters winning big time

>> No.7021455

>>7014537
I haven't been stopped by unpopularity, poverty, my best content being unspeakable and kept private, getting cancelled, or lack of skill. If anything can be said about me is that I'm an artist for life because I just love it.

>> No.7021525

>>7014537
Never.

>> No.7022373

>>7014574
This is literally my biggest fear, like what the fuck do I do if i lose my eyes or my right hand?

>> No.7022743

>>7022373
Years ago at work,I impaled my drawing hand with a broken jar of tomato sauce. I was worried about the same thing,but I could still draw using the line tool in Photoshop with my trackball mouse. A far longer process, and annoying, but what I managed to make was in my style.

>> No.7022748

>>7022743
It’s worse when your primary hand is damaged beyond repair

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>> No.7022859

>>7014537
I'm glad I never got into digital art. It must be demoralizing to deal with being fleeced by subscription plans, having the software change and become unstable with updates over which you have no control, and getting spat on by the corporations that make your tools when they use AI in their advertising rather than hire an artist, and further integrate AI into their software. Trad is forever based. Pixel art is also good because you can do it without getting into the corpo-fleecing rat race.

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>>7016381
Another retard that got lobotomized by the AI. Now kys

>> No.7024259

I hope more people like this quit art forever

>> No.7024283

when i die lol

>> No.7024287

>>7014596
They derive the value of their art by the likes and validation they receive from it. Their art is as vapid and prone to flattery as their souls.

Also it's never the person who uses AI that asserts it real art, just the person who's art looks just as plain as the former.

>> No.7024920

>>7014574
based, never quit

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7024936

>>7024287
AI user here, can confirm this.

>> No.7026204

1995-2021
Companies underpay artists and writers to come up with real methodical, predictable products cutting out 99.8% of prospective artists and writers.
>...

2022+
Companies use an AI tool to come up with real methodical, predictable products cutting out a max of the last last .2% of prospective artists.
>"THIS IS GOING TO END MY CAREER

Tiresome.

>> No.7026240

>>7026204
>the last last .2%
are you stupid?

>> No.7026245

>>7016381
I use SD's control net plus 3d models for poses, compositions, and to actually generate the various depth and line maps, its ironically more useful than the actual prompt genning that its meant to do and I can use them as bases as I want them.

>> No.7026247

>>7016563
>There's no alternative to Wacom (no matter how much they shill Huion here)

My Huion screen suits me fine, what does wacom do that I'm missing out on, other than an emptier wallet?

>> No.7026256

>>7014815
j try it once
both taste good
>>7022373
same tho
honestly if i lost all ability to do what i love i'd probably just end it right there
like no point in living a meaningless life just for the sake of being alive
"what if they can fix it in the future"
ya but what if they can't
etc

>> No.7026258

>>7014537
I've redirected and changed my art to personal ideas instead of physical creations.

I'm hoping to bring those back in line with output when it feels right, but im with you there.

>> No.7026310

>>7026245
SD's text gen sucks ass, only DALL-E 3 and NAI's proprietary SDXL model have good textgen that actually delivers what you ask for.

>> No.7026311

>>7026247
You're replying to a resident schizo, anon

>> No.7026312

>>7019427
>Honestly art only got more and more faggy after photography

lmao that's a good point, painting became all about making things that photography wasn't able to do. So art will be all about what the AI can't do.

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>>7014537
Drawing pinup fanart like an algorithm then rejecting ai is so ironic it's funny. It can make their uncreative lives easier if they just train a model with their art, touch it up with their own talents, and profit off of it. But they're uncreatives. Using what they hate as a tool to improve their lifestyle does not register in their minds. Their own backwards morality is clouding their success.

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>>7026312
>painting became all about making things that photography wasn't able to do. So art will be all about what the AI can't do.

this did not stop photography and it will certainly not work any better for AI

>> No.7026486

>>7026310
NAI's text isn't any better than SDXL's. It's probably worse actually.

>> No.7026493

>>7026328
Nothing can stop #1 superpower India sirs

>> No.7026579

>check on boorus
>there are 'artist' tags that name whomever prompted the AI
But I thought AIbros HATED artists because they wanted recognition for their art?????? What the fuck??????

>> No.7026652

>>7026579
They should credit the ai model instead

>> No.7027563

if you quite because of AI you have never been an artist anyway

>> No.7027581

>>7014537
fk ai

>> No.7027602

>>7020296
I don't get why it's a big deal that rock.jpg texture in a game is AI generated, I'm pretty sure most artists didn't sign up to texture rocks. There's tons of creative drudgery that nobody enjoys.

>> No.7027670

>>7014537
Don't know about you guys. But if someone likes my art enough to train an ai model, that's a sign to me that my art has more value than i originally thought it's worth, and an excuse to raise prices on commissions. not cry about it and quit.

>> No.7027677

>>7014537
2024 and people are acting like mentally retarded.
Oh no AI is going rampant we gonna get replaced im quitting.

Ill do it for my personal enjoyment and if somebody pays me for it only good for me other then that i don't personally give a damn i don't quit because drawing is a chill for me i take it seriously i learn but also it's relaxation im not in for money people are crying like mentally retarded and being afraid of everything i would had to have both hands cut to stop.

>> No.7027678

>>7014537
when i stop enjoying it

>> No.7027681

>>7018146
I tested AI and i quit after some time it lacks personality even with good prompting it's basically still don't have any artistic expression in it. You can train it on style of somebody and it can do the style well but again characters don't have same expression. So unless AI will learn think for it self and fix those things it's like yeah whatever.

>> No.7027960

>>7027681
you do it wrong, as someone with drawing skills you should use Image-to-Image with one of your sketches

>> No.7028055

>>7014537
>i'm broken
begone poser

>> No.7028352

>>7014537
I only picked up art out of boredom. Didn't watch tv, didn't have a pc powerful enough to play most modern games, only form of entertainment was youtube and drawing. When the first wave of stimulus checks came in I used it to finally buy a decent pc and found out video games were just far more entertaining and rewarding then art. Ever since then I haven't rely bothered with art, hell I never plugged back in my tablet from when I rearranged my room over a year ago.

>> No.7028405

>>7027681
Companies don't give a fuck about artistic expression, they want art done quickly and as cheap as possible.

>> No.7028420

>>7027960
t. shadiversity

>> No.7028472

>>7020352
companies will still have better products if only because of tribal story-telling knowledge. many, many people over the years have published fanfic and every single one is a fever dream, no matter the author no matter the ip. studios will stay relevant because as shit as their stories might be, it won't be brainrot on par with schizos who have enough free time to merge gundam and star wars.

>> No.7028485

>>7014537
I think if my mental health declines enough I'll stop drawing. As it is, depression has removed all inspiration. I only draw as practice to develop skill in the hope that someday the fog will lift and I get my vision back and will be able to create art i'm proud of.

>> No.7028509

>>7016178
It's already replacing industry jobs. Ofc the highest talent isn't going anywhere but they will now be forced to supervise the ai slop and turn it into somewhat functional story boards/character design/game assets etc. it's almost certainly going to destroy patreon art and comms if it hasn't been affecting it already with all the recent lora spam.

I mean whatever all that work has sucked for at least a decade

>> No.7028523

>>7018505
Scenes are still garbage which is ironic because Netflix wants to use it for story board. But I've seen passable gay sex scenes lately on Twitter - I truly don't know if they are img2img mistakes (which would make sense) or just spend hours proompting until they get something passable (very sad). I think everyone competent is using there own loras too rather than what's publicly available on sea ai or another nsfw service. animation is still completely fucked with ai and shows little signs of improvement

>> No.7028564

>>7014537
Losing both my arms.

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>>7014537
cool story OP but no one who's actually good at art or enjoys it is going to quit because of ai, the kind of people who would, not only don't actually like the craft but would never have made it regardless

>> No.7028893

>>7016381
go whore yourself . that would be a billion times better, retard

>> No.7028919

>>7016178
>ai is slop and only going to replace slop artists. Being afraid of it is basically admitting that all you make is slop
>fuck starting artists, they only make slop
you couldn't have a more brainlet take if you tried.

>> No.7029034

>>7014537
>>7014671
>>7016381
i just saw an AI asuka images when i was looking for a refere- i mean looking for something i can masturbate and hoard
so i checked that dude on x and sub star and seems like AI doesn't sell so good
perhaps bacause you can see that something is wrong with that image, they lack the soul

>> No.7029064

>>7014537
If you make art, you litteraly can't quit. You can take a side job maybe, use a different medium, make a pause...but quitting is not for artists.

>> No.7029275

>>7026320
Sir please do the needful and send gift card

>> No.7029280

>>7028574
Was wondering when someone was going to post this.
/ic/ gets bent out of shape over nothing, as usual.

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>>7014537

>> No.7029477

>>7014537
>What are things that will make you quit art?
the fact you need to whore yourself out on social media to have anyone look at what you're doing
even if you just want your work to be seen on a basic level you are supposed to trendhop and spew hot takes on twitter
and draw porn of course because the public only cares about porn
I always just wanted to make drawings and post them
doing things for myself is fun but if you wanna tell a story there's always a missing piece and this is a very demoralizing state of things

>> No.7029980

>>7029477
Whoring yourself out on social media, doesn't make sense now that insta's algorithm has been modified and verified accounts get more views than the rest. Tik Tok for art? Um no. Twitter? Nope.
Social media is good to have but there needs to be a real base, you need to know people in your town first and show your art around, not just on facebook or instagram.

>> No.7031286

>>7027602
>I don't get why it's a big deal that rock.jpg texture in a game is AI generated, I'm pretty sure most artists didn't sign up to texture rocks.
This mentality only makes sense if you're a subhuman that worships realistic slop games.
Any game with a unique art style doesn't need AIslop and is the only games that used to be the standard for real gamers. Now it's realism slop, which AI is used for, which is why you defend it. of course no one wants to texture what a camera could do. Art creates information that doesn't exist in the real world.

>> No.7031299

>>7031286
you got no clue, most gamers are kids and nerds and don't care about "art"
the most popular game on Steam is a blatant copy of Pokemon

>> No.7031300

>>7014537
>What are things that will make you quit art?
ADHD. It happened before for two years. Then I picked it back up. And I'll pick it back up again.
>Where will you draw the line and put down the pen?
kek

>> No.7031303

>>7027960
You act like doing a sketch to feed into it for img2img is somehow far removed from someone just prompting it lol there's no wrong when it's that simple

>> No.7031306

>>7024287
You're joking right, every single AI thread on twitter has someone in the comments saying their art is just as valid from prompting and that i'ts just as real. If we're gonna call artists who receive validation from the likes vapid then I sure as hell hope you think the same of these people who want to be recognized for doing the equivalent of nothing and expecting a job from a triple A studio.

>> No.7031327

>>7014537
just announce it to your twitter
attention whore nigger

>> No.7031489

>>7014671
Of course they are, especially now that it gets even better, there's been that one post of Toki from Blue Archive that hit like 130k likes on twitter and people were mass crying about it, not to mention people selling their AI generations on patreon

>> No.7031523

>>7031303
if you say so

>> No.7031867

>>7031523
Enlighten me why you think doing a sketch and feeding it in for a touch up is somehow more right than just prompting it. Stop acting like you’re better than all the nodraws out there retard

>> No.7032570

What other profession to learn instead of drawing now that can benefit or is untouched by AI? Drawing, programming, CGI, motion design, etc. it's all fucked now and not worth to learn.

>> No.7032576

>>7032570
unironically HR type jobs or therapist, or any government job or government grant related job that is high on the social work aspect. It's a huge lawsuit to AI them away so you'll be solid.

>> No.7032578

>>7032576
before some retard tries to post the many failed attempts at AI therapists that companies have tested the waters with just think about what happens when you can conclusively show an AI engine told a major depressive that they should kill themselves or life isnt worth living (which will happen gpt 4 is retarded)

>> No.7032582

>>7032576
2nding therapist. Imagine how many depressive people there'll be thanks to the new AI world

>> No.7032619
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this artstyle already looks like AI

>> No.7032623

>>7015268
why are women so self centered

>> No.7032765
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7032765

>>7029034
>they lack the soul

>> No.7032781
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>>7032765
This Image ironically proves nothing. The soul comes from knowing that a person made it. The second you reveal that it was Ai generated it loses its soul.

soul=man hours and skill

Are you impressed when a mountain lion gets hit by a car and dies? Nope. But what if a man fought a mountain lion with his bare hands and won? Now that's fucking awesome.

>> No.7032795

>>7032781
>This Image ironically proves nothing. The soul comes from knowing that a person made it.
That phase makes absoluely no sense but okay.
If we do a "Blind Test" and you have to guess if a pic is genuine or AI, and you can't tell, then how can you ell if it has "soul" or not?

Either there is soul or there isn't.
If you can't tell if Human or AI made, then the "soul" doesn't exist.

Is a Monochrome painting "Soul" just because it was made by a human?

You're aware that the AI specifically recreates ar made by Humans?
If you give a Musical AI the entire works or Bach or Mozart, they can create new/original pieces of music as if it wee made by the original artist.
And in the case of music AIs, you really can't tell the difference. It literally sounds like Mozart composed it.

>The second you reveal that it was Ai generated it loses its soul.
>soul=man hours and skill
So "Soul" is a meaningless and arbitrary term.
Gotcha.

>Are you impressed when a mountain lion gets hit by a car and dies? Nope.
>But what if a man fought a mountain lion with his bare hands and won? Now that's fucking awesome.
Okay, if it's a Dog, that kills the mountain lion, then it's not Impressive?
What if an elephant paints a nice painting, ids that Impressive?
Does an Elephant painting has More or Less "Soul" because an made it instead of a human?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiZGFh4_BAE

And so then onto Artificial Intelligence.
Is Artificial Intellignce not impressive in and of itself?
Being able to copy the geatest human painters who ever lived?
Create what would be considered a masterpiece, in less tha a minute, with only a word prompt as basis ?
That's not impressive to you?
Okay lmao.

What about when the AI beome sentient?
What if you put a sentient AI into a robot, creaing and Android, what if the android pains perfectly? Still not impressive then?

Where do you daw the line?

>> No.7032804

>>7032781
>>7032795
Also, you forgot something important : "Impressive" is subjective.
What is impressive to me, might not be impressive to you and vice versa.

How is a Human Drawing "impressive" exactly?
A lot of humans can draw.
What's impressive about drawing?
Is a child drawing considered "impressive"?
What about primitive human art? Like Cave-paintaings? Appart from hsorc and archeological value, are they artistically impressive?

Your post and definition of "Soul" is bad, and pretty much useless.
You're protecting your passion from advancing technology, and that's admirable, but you're basically Coping and Seething.

Imagine a guy telling me "Cars are not impressive, you should ride a horse, like a real man".
That's you right now.
Riding horses is a hobby, a sport, a pleasurable thing. But i's no a superior mode of transportation when compared to a car.
You're basically arguing "Cars are soulless".
Do you understand?

>> No.7032807

>>7032781
Anon you're retarded. That's literally just contrarianism.

>> No.7032809

>>7032807
>Anon you're retarded. That's literally just contrarianism.
Thank you.
I don't mean to shit on human art, but his/her defintion of "Soul" is retarded.

>> No.7032839

>>7032795
>>7032804
Yeah, sorry you had to type all of that just to still be wrong. But I made it perfectly clear for you already. You may be suffering from cognitive dissonance.

soul=man hours and skill

the moment you reveal that there was no skill or effort that went into the creation of something, then it loses it's soul and ability to be impressive.

>> No.7032841

>>7032809
>it's retarded because i disagree.
You're just coping because you know I am correct.

When we look at martial artists sparring (artists), we can see the soul and feel thrilled when one of them wins in the end. we enjoy their performance.

Now imagine a pickup truck(ai) rolls in and hits the other participant in order to win. Do you think the crowd will cheer? Obviously not. Ai art has no soul.

>> No.7032845

>>7032804
there's nothing impressive about a man driving a car. But it is admirable to see a man who has mastered riding a horse.

You literally just proved yourself wrong. what a retard.

>> No.7032852

>>7032804
You know a more comparable analogy would actually be working out or walking than horses.
It's more a personal thing really but when mental retardation is as high it's ever been I wonder expect to see "improving." Especially T B H when the on going joke for Gen alpha is low attention spans with subway surfers or other stuff playing in the background.
Also by "masterpiece" do you mean the near quadruple amount of porn created, propaganda /pol/ can now make, or new ways to tell people to KYS but the Tech will improve their lives somehow

>> No.7032912

>>7032839
>>the moment you reveal that there was no skill or effort that went into the creation of something, then it loses it's soul and ability to be impressive.
Okay, so according to that logic, Artificial Intelligence is one of the most impressive things in existence considering it's one of he most complex and difficult thing to ver be created.

How many hours you spnd on a good drawing?
10 hours? 20 hours?
And how much time / effort gos into creating an AI?
Months? Years? With huge team of a leadt 100 coders?

Yeah, you see, your argument / logic still sucks.
It's way harder to create an AI than it is to make a drawing.
You just proved youself wrong.

And I'm not eve trying to say that Good Art isn't impressive, I'm simply showing you why your opinion about it is trash.

>> No.7032922

>>7032841
>You're just coping because you know I am correct.
You state like it's a fact whn all you've done is Coping + Seething when I prove that your opinion is trash.

>When we look at martial artists sparring (artists), we can see the soul and feel thrilled when one of them wins in the end. we enjoy their performance.
>Now imagine a pickup truck(ai) rolls in and hits the other participant in order to win. Do you think the crowd will cheer? Obviously not. Ai art has no soul.
You can argue as much as you want about "What is impressive" but AI is one of the most impressive feats humans ever accomplished.
We're literally "Playing God" by creating an artificially intelligent tool that can mimick humans.

You're trying to weasel you way out of the argument using comparisons, but your comparisons are sill trash, bcause they're basd on Subjectivity.

>> No.7032930
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7032930

>>7014812
That...

was replaced by this. And I have no idea what the point of this was. What are they promoting or selling?

>> No.7032936

>>7032845
>there's nothing impressive about a man driving a car. But it is admirable to see a man who has mastered riding a horse.
You really think learning to ride a horse is more complicated than learning to drive a car?
It's not.
Kids can ride on hoses, que easily.
I know because I rode horses when I was young.
I took me much more time and effort as an adult to learn to drive than it took me as a kid to learn to ride a horse.

Riding a Horse is only more impressive in the Physical Effort / Sport sense.
But watching Formula 1, or WRC Rally motorsports is 100 times moe impressive than someone riding on hoseback.
As proof, look up how may people watch motorsports VS pople watching hose riding / horse-related sports.

You lost the argument, again.
And I'm playing nice by using your own allgories against you.
I could be like you and sawman the shit out of this, but instead I take your points sriously and dismantle them easily.

>> No.7032951

>>7032852
>You know a more comparable analogy would actually be working out or walking than horses.
Okay, sure.

>It's more a personal thing really but when mental retardation is as high it's ever been I wonder expect to see "improving." Especially T B H when the on going joke for Gen alpha is low attention spans with subway surfers or other stuff playing in the background.
I read and re-read this part but still don' understand you point.
I don't disagree, I'm just confused about wha you'e trying to tell me.

>Also by "masterpiece" do you mean the near quadruple amount of porn created, propaganda /pol/ can now make, or new ways to tell people to KYS but the Tech will improve their lives somehow
This is mostly a Fallacy.
It's the "New Tool" argument.
A Tool is (usually) neither good or bad, it depends on wha you're using for.
For example : Digital Art / Photoshop.
Computers completely revolutionized Drawing / Art.
(Almost) All of you/us use it.
You can make th same exact argument.
Photoshop allowed coomers to Photoshop th face of their favorite celebrity onto a porn picture.
Just like you said here :
>Also by "masterpiece" do you mean the near quadruple amount of porn created
Photoshop also "quadrupeled" the amount of Coomer/Porn created.
It was what peopl usd when thy wanted to "Deepfake" something, before Deepfake exsted.
Same for the other things you said :
>propaganda /pol/ can now make
Most /pol/ propaganda is made on Photoshop/MS Paint.
Is Photoshop a "Evil Tool"?

But just in General, we were probably oo young then, but what about when Classical Artist were seething about Digitial Art?
Just like wit DJ's in music, you're "Pushing Buttons" hey said.
Same argument about Classic Art having "Soul" while digtal art was "Soulless".
Do you agree?

This is the final proof that you're wrong.
You're complainig about AI Tools, and fail to see that these exact same arguments/points you make about AI also apply to Photoshop, to an extent.

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>>7032930
A wall of text strip,but I still miss it all.

>> No.7032960

>>7029280
Sad but true

>> No.7033031

>>7032951
Is this trip or mikufag

>> No.7033570

>Try to learn drawing
>Too hard
>Give up
>Think abut it a lot even though i haven't done it in over a year
>Try again
>Too hard
>Give up
>Kinda wanna try again a week later or so
>Repeat process from above
I'll probably keep doing this until i'm dead

>> No.7034616

>>7031306
I'm pretty sure most threads requesting art on this site are just made by proompters so they can grab shit to feed into what-the-fuck-it's-called, that program you run on your computer
pretty sure a lot of sketches here are run through AI for color or whatever and used in some gallery
potentially every sketch you post here is feeding into AI, it's just a reality
so when you post art online you get people who look at it, people who tell you "draw her pregnant" and people who use it for AI
occasionally someone spews a ramble about gender issues or whatever
art is fun and I love it but posting it online is a massive net negative right now
unless you draw porn I guess

>> No.7035097

>>7014537
people are already drawing better than me, so AI getting better is irrelevant for me.

i draw because i like to draw shit and i always get shit numbers. these kinds of people are sad because interaction number won't go up fast enough for their "WHAT IF PRINCESS PEACH BUT SEXY"

>> No.7035204

>>7035097
porn faggots always do this shit
>I'm gonna quit art OH NO I AM A POOR ARTIST WOE IS ME
>just kidding teeheee thanks for the attention
hope he spends his cash on chemio

>> No.7035556
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7035556

>>7035204
>buckbroken artlet seething at imagined pornfags dabbing on him
where’s the porn?

>> No.7035582

AI could never achieve any progress in oil, soft pastel, or watercolor only a glib fascimile of it. I am not even remotely scared.

>> No.7035607

>>7035582
if anything I hope AI helps promote a decent market for traditional works

>> No.7035612

>>7035607
lol
lmao

>> No.7035770

>>7035582
traditional handmade art is a totally different market, AI is just an issue for digital artists

>> No.7035824 [DELETED] 

I quit drawing a long time ago. I just come here to shit because I despise artists for convincing me to draw in the first place. When I was a teenager I internalized all this bullshit: "anyone can draw! Talent isn't real! Anyone can succeed if they just try hard enough!" I destroyed my life, my potential, my health, everything, I threw EVERYTHING I had into this stupid, meaningless shitty field. You pieces of shit sold me comforting lies and they all bloomed into mental illness, it's only fair I give back what I got. I now dedicate all of my free time to tormenting and demoralizing artists, especially the young idiots I meet on discord and reddit. I get to know them, act like a friend for a few months, then I wait until they're most vulnerable and turn on them. One guy said he was going to commit suicide because of me, and I fucking hope he did. The idea of some hopeful, wannabe hypersensitive piece of shit necking himself because I shat on his precious self expression fills me with something resembling belief in god. AI is the best weapon I ever could have hoped for. I will never stop preying on you worthless faggots. Unironically, I hope every single person who reads this achieves nothing and dies alone unwanted and unseen. Kill yourselves.

>> No.7035829
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7035829

>>7035824
what an unbelievable loser you are lmao
get a life shizo

>> No.7035837
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7035837

>>7035824
Seems like you finally succumb to your own failure and depression, now you can finally kys and good riddance.

>> No.7035840

>>7032570
Any government (main government or smaller) that is also union protected. Nearly impossible to kick you out so long as you also aren't grossly fucking up your side of the job.

>> No.7035842
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7035842

I been in coma for a year, how's the lawsuit against AI going lately?

>> No.7035864

>>7035824
Holy fucking based

>> No.7035885

>>7035824
How rude!

>> No.7035890

>>7035824
I wonder...
>t.tripfagu

>> No.7035893

>>7035824
>t.miku-chan

>> No.7036034

>>7032936
>I took me much more time and effort as an adult to learn to drive than it took me as a kid to learn to ride a horse.

Are you retarded. Most people in modern society have no experience with horse riding so of course it's gonna be more interesting. There's no argument here about what is more "impressive" and you schizoposting that somehow because you're a little slow mentally it's more impressive doesn't paint a good picture of what AI is since it's quite literally just trained off of actual skilled artists to cover up the lack of skill from the users who larp it like you

>> No.7036040

>>7034616
More than anything i'm just confused about prompters that try to compare their generations to the skills of an actual trained drawer/painter. Like objectively speaking gen AI is marketed towards anyone to use and produce high quality levels of art because it's solely trained off of the works of actually skilled artists. Larping and trying to say you're just as much of a skilled drawer/painter(artist) as these pros is pure cope. Never understood the art argument from these people

>> No.7036416

>>7036040
they're mostly indians, they think like that

>> No.7037725

Simple.
Its death

>> No.7037743

>>7035842
it isn't.

>> No.7037783

>>7036040
I hate AI but it was the last nail in the coffin. Look at other products that went through automation, nobody buys that shit anymore. Human-made art will also get saturated with works that are valued based on their "humanity" and other stupid shit which will reinforce the idea of paying for the person instead of the art. So it's all gonna double down on supporting oppressed cripple black trannies because they're a minority and the art they make matters because of the person you're supporting. So you're gonna have an even bigger divide between shitty AIslop and shit on a canvas. Most people who complain about this shit have never paid for a drawing that wasn't porn anyway, AI is good enough at drawing porn 'cause it's literally just big ass against the camera and it all looks the same, that's all that matters in today's market. Entertainment industries are so fucking soulless and impersonal in the way they create art it's not really that different from porn or AI as well, you have "character designers" who just "play with shapes" to create lookalike slop that all looks the same. AI can do that. The thing is that the world is largely soulless now, normies are soulless, so AI will fit that market beautifully. Much like articles are all written by bots now. AI doesn't even need to shoulder its own improvement 'cause people are getting more hollow and retarded by the day, so even if the level of AIslop stays the same, it's only a matter of time before people will adapt to an even lower common denominator.
I don't even know why you would try to make art these days, if you make a story and characters from the bottom of your heart you know the only thing people will do is jerk off to them and the porn shit that parasitic 3rd wordlers will shit out.
People address AI as an illness while it's just a symptom of a much bigger metastasis. I say let it all rot.

>> No.7037787
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7037787

>>7014537
Prompterchads won

>> No.7037789

>>7014671
>>7037787
it just started

>> No.7037820
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7037820

can robots have soul?

>> No.7037828

>>7027602
The problem exists that yes, nobody wants to texture rocks, everybody wants to be a character designer. But nobody gets their first job being a character designer, your first job will be texturing those fucking rocks.

Using AI means that those shitty jobs that represented a doorway for aspiring artists just got closed.

>> No.7037836

>>7032936
Kids can drive cars you retard, my friends and I used to drive shitty old cars around an empty farm field when we were 12. We don't let kids drive on the road because they're too stupid to understand the consequences of fucking up.
On a horse, if you fuck up, the consequences are usually not instant death and the death of others. It's going to hurt, but you'll recover.

>But watching Formula 1, or WRC Rally motorsports is 100 times moe impressive than someone riding on hoseback.
No it isn't.
>As proof, look up how may people watch motorsports VS pople watching hose riding / horse-related sports.
That's got nothing to do with the impressive of the skill of driving. Lots of people watch motorsports because they like cars and it's a visually exciting sport not because they find the technical skill of driving more impressive than the technical skill of horse-riding.

You're so chock full of shit.

>> No.7037845

>>7026204
I refuse to go quietly into the night. True, we face the ultimate foe that can adapt to whatever we throw it, but we can’t just give in and let them make a mockery of our craft. We must stand defiant and keep creating for the sake of showing the world we will not sit idly by.
We must dig deep inside ourselves and go even further beyond the AI menace!!!!

>> No.7037858

>>7037820
can you get a life

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7037866

>>7037858
no

>> No.7037941

>>7037828
why would you even want to work in the industry these days? seriously do you look at modern media and think "wow I absolutely need to help create more of this pozzed shit"
I would've understood until say the 2000s, maybe early 2010s but games and movies these days are fucking horrendous. like what are you going to make? design the nigger who cucks the player's character? uglify the 3D face scans of female characters? is this mannish enough, xir??? he most creative prospect in modern media is designing some monster who smashes a wall and goes RAAAAAHRRRGH in the same fuckng way as every other single fucking big monster who smashed through a wall for the past 20 years

>> No.7037947

.

>> No.7037973

>>7028509

>> No.7037982

>>7032936
Why do curries spend this much time trying to convince people

>> No.7037985

>>7027670

>> No.7037998

>>7037941
For me it's validation that my work is good enough. I want to apply to fancy animation schools soley to see if they seem my work worthy. I'd never attend I just want to know if I'm good

>> No.7038016

>>7014537
going to just go ahead and pour my guts out.
i come here and browse images in an art board, and hope one day some image or topic on here will motivate me to pick up pen and pencil...and paper.
i have not made any art for myself to satisfy myself in 20 years. it's always been design shit on digital ever since. i'm drained, don't feel human. machine is what i feared i'd become. and it has.
i lost my love, my humor, my wit, and my passion. i gave it all up to satisfy others that i don't care about. i forgot about myself and neglected myself, and my style, my personality--for others i don't care about or will ever meet--to satisfy and gyp the populous into thinking they need to buy x product because i wanted money and material goods.
the paper and tools over there mock me. wake up, self...

>> No.7038031

>>7027602
Hey, I like drawing rock textures, I think it’s coo’.

>> No.7038032

>>7037941
Why would you want to work in any industry? Why would you want to work? What is this question?

>> No.7038070

>>7035842
Taylor Swift ironically kickstarted the lawsuit.
Thanks to this some of artist name and copyrighted characters are removed from dalle and designer

>> No.7038095

>>7038070
This, all it takes is one rich and large influential person to start things off. The little guys don’t matter and it has always been like that, sadly.

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7038230

>>7037787
>toronto A.K.A. new delhi
that's pretty hilarious, i sense some poo-on-poo violence here, that is unless they're actually looking for a super indian of 4 seasons who can redeem the best

>> No.7038333

>>7032936
>watching motorsports
do you at all watch NASCAR than anon...or any motorsports in general than

>> No.7038405

>>7017977
Photography isn't trying to replicate paintings.
AI art is.
If anything, you could say it's the other way around, painting exists because painters couldn't take photos, and then it evolved into its own thing.
Photography has been around for centuries now, and people still enjoy the act of drawing so that may never go away, who knows.
But then it's hard to kill a habit that's been part of human culture since the cavemen days.

>> No.7038410

>>7038095
>all it takes is one rich and large influential person
Isn't Taylor Swift basically a cult leader at this point?
I'm too much of an autist to be into mainstream culture, but from what i gather, she's almost at Beatles level of fan obsession and devotion.
Possibly more, given the modern nature of Social Media.

My point being: She's a very special case, not just any influential or rich person.

>> No.7038411

>>7038410
Do you not know celebrity culture my nigga...
Obsessive fanbases are quite the norm to see.
>I could ask if you ever played undertale

>> No.7038412

>>7038411
I never played Undertale, but my point was that Swift's fanbase is extraordinarily rabid and obsessive.

>> No.7038415

>>7014537
AImade me stop drawing publiclly

you can say i dont have a soul all you want but when an AI can literally make what takes you weeks or months to make in a few seconds theres no point anymore

and its not like anyone gives a shit so why should i? i miss the days before AI when human art was actually valued

>> No.7039036

>>7038415
>I miss the days before AI when human art was actually valued
It still is, subhumans aren't people and you are one of them since you never cared about other artists and actual humans that value creation if you clearly care more about bugmen thoughts
Good riddance.

>> No.7039061

>>7038415
AI made me value human made MORE. I was foolish not to value it as highly before.

>> No.7039091

>>7038405
>Photography isn't trying to replicate paintings.
>AI art is.

Actually quite some early photographers got inspiration from famous paintings and used the new tool to replicate settings, scenes and mood
But they learned quickly to go far beyond this and soon painters started to replicate photographs. So now for a while many painters are copyists.
AI and people using AI (I could say AI artists but I am still not ready to use it in an unironic way)
obviously draw inspiration from paintings, comics, visual art, photography, computer games sculpture, movies, etc. But who knows what future will bring? Me might indeed see traditional artists copying AI art.

>> No.7039112

>>7038415
AI made me stop drawing publicly because I don't want to share space with indian niggers who flood platforms with that shit and aggregate everything you post
it's like going to a restaurant and there's a stinking faggot shitting in the corner, if they won't kick that faggot out of the place I'm leaving

>> No.7039117

>>7014537
When I stop recieving attention for it. I only draw because brain tickles funny when people say my art is nice, I'm a monkey, I'm a pavlovian dog

>> No.7039872
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7039872

>>7014537
Now have Peach drawn by a proper flesh and blood human. Down with the AI menace.

>> No.7039876

>>7039036
kill yourself bitch

>> No.7040587
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7040587

Weebs made me quit art, calling everything I did stupid, horrible, ugly and disgusting.

Haven't drawn since mid 2022

>> No.7040593

>>7014537
When my country decides lgs art doing naughty stuff is illegal, yeah I'll for real stop drawing it and definitely never use VPN to post it on a forum anyway. Definitely quitting, definitely

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7040601

>>7040587
showing cartoon stuff to weebs
>they say its stupid, horrible, ugly and disgusting.
plus you post loli porn fag
>"how could they"
>pic related

>> No.7040610

>>7040587
your pedo bait is not as welcomed in more places than it may seem nigga

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7040623

>>7040601
>west shit
>loli

>> No.7040632

>>7040623
would you rather it be called lolita or pedo than or the more scientific names cut up by age groups

>> No.7040716

>>7040632
it's just flat, abstract geometric jewslop.
cartoon porn, parody porn, etc is more true to what it is.

>> No.7040721

>>7014574
I fractured my right hand last year and couldn't play guitar or draw for awhile. I was worried it was permanently fucked but after some physio it's back to normal.

>> No.7040815
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7040815

>>7040716

>> No.7042651

>>7040815
The funny thing is that the west usually does not gives ages to their characters they are just ambiguously children and they look super tiny compared to adults. Could be any age between 4 and 12

>> No.7042668

>>7015378
>>7014537
These types of threads are posted by AI shills because they’re talentless fags that want you to sign up for their services. These threads should be banned. I get the feeling mods are being paid off.

>> No.7042707

>>7042668
Jannies are fags
Though I wonder if it has something to do with AInigs actually buying ads for 4chan

>> No.7042712

>>7040610

>> No.7042714

>>7035890
I wonder If trip VPNing when his vendetta post got deleted

>> No.7042727

>>7035829
It be like that

>> No.7042761

>>7039876

>> No.7042853

>>7016381
Post your work I want to see how good of an "ai artist" you really are. Alot say the same but no one can seem to back it up.

>> No.7042868

>>7042853
Prob just tripfag anon

>> No.7042873

>>7040587

>> No.7042877

>>7037783

>> No.7042899
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>>7042853
nta but pros work with AI too, picrel is working from an AI reference.

>> No.7042906

>>7037787
Wow now studios can hire one singular Indian instead of hundreds

>> No.7042909

>>7042899
>reference
Hardly shit changes that it looks more like you put a quick filter up

>> No.7042911

>>7039117

>> No.7042918

>>7040587

>> No.7042921

>>7042909
Crabs gonna crab I guess.

>> No.7042923

>>7042921
I could say whomst t b h I believe your average YouTuber is more known than them

>> No.7042927

>>7042921
Far I could tell this could just be tripfag, or by "Pro" your just mentioning yourself as an ex.

>> No.7042930

>>7040632

>> No.7042932

>>7038411

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7042933

>>7042923
>>7042927
The point is this is pro level work, you know it's better than you and it's using AI. Make of that what you will.

>> No.7042934

>>7042933
>but whomst
I've seen pros make stick figures look better honestly that is still random woman in backdrop shit your showing

>> No.7042938

>>7038410

>> No.7042940

>>7042933
>this is pro level work
not really. mid int at best

>> No.7042941

>>7042933
put your trip back on fag

>> No.7042951

>>7038032

>> No.7042952

>>7042933
Why is everything jump cutting like your just having the AI do everything

>> No.7042960

>>7042933
Nigga why does the final thing change so abruptly from the sketch and other parts like you overlaid the "reference" at the end

>> No.7042962

>>7042952
It's part of the larp

>> No.7042963

>>7014671

>> No.7042969

>>7042962
Figure though honestly I'm pretty sure it's just tripfag for how adamant the nigga gets

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7042974

>>7042952
>>7042962
Because those are the finished layers, isn't it obvious?
>>7042960
Because the last layer has all that detail, isn't it obvious?

I guess it's true when they say nobody on /ic/ actually draws.

>> No.7042989

>>7042974
>finished layers
What shit are you making up this time to sound like your not a retarded monkey

>> No.7042992

>>7042974
so you are calling your own shit "pro" fagget

>> No.7043634

>>7042921
What was improved?

>> No.7043780

>>7043634
It's a study, you improve yourself.

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7043865

>>7042974
they will make up anything to keep up their delusion. it's kinda funny at this point.
>nope nope nope!
>no you didn't draw/paint that!
>nope, no way no sir! absolutely not!
>you're lying! everything you say is a lie! you're trying to sell me shit!
just lol.

but pic not related.
it's a mood board i made for helping me flesh out a library setting for a personal project. literally every gen i made for it is laid out here in consecutive order as i made and changed them.
and they actually helped me a lot in imagining the setting. i decided on some crucial details while being inspired by these.