/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>7006732

Here's your (you) anon. Thank you for posting something pleasing to look at in that cursed thread.

>>7007037
who's the original artist?

>>7007042
Lurk on h draw threads and ask him, pretty good anon.

>>7007037
Anon, make solid borders

tried doing something like billy schenck but its kinda sloppy lol
not sure how to continue so im done with this

>>7007059
Composition doesn't make sense unless you add something of interest on the right side of the river

>>7007056
>>7007037
you should try to draw the original illustration accurately

>>7007031
cute!

Been dicking around on /i/ lately.

I wish I could make the hands stand out a bit more prominent

can I get crit on the body? The head totally sucks but if I'm being honest I was really focused on everything else and the head was an afterthought which is something I shouldn't do.

>>7007073
Keep it up anon, oekaki is a good way of getting mileage

>>7007084
You could try to draw them better.

>>7007084

>>7007084

>set a timer on phone camera
>lean it against something
>pose or do different variation of the pose

now you have the perfect ref to guide you.

>>7007091
This was done without a ref right? her left arm is a bit short, everything is slightly off in terms of proportion/perspective. I tried drawing the same idea in a quick sketch for your but my anatomy and perspective is also most likely pretty off. I'de recommend practicing figure drawing

>>7007017
Here's to another year of no progress whatsoever!

>>7007084
Based choso poster, I would extend the hands forward making them large in perspective, piercing blood can also have a small red line in the middle to lead the viewer's eye to the middle of the pose

>>7007084
Just a rough idea of what you could do

>>7007113
Thanks. I'm feeling somewhat inspired recently and I hope I can keep up the momentum.

>>7007144
He's supposed to be praying not doin the piercing blood gesture...

>>7007017
thank you for noticing me senpai

>>7006732
I think you made a great picture. I could say of course that you did not follow the original picture and that values are not as dark but you obviously intentionally did it that way and know.

>>7007059
agree with >>7007060, right side seems unnaturally empty.

>>7007037
>>7007056
I told you a million times. It does not make it look better that you leave the sketch lines inside the picture. The fact that you have to resort to this is exactly where is your problem....

>>7007031
extremely sweet lick-my-monitor appeal

>>7007127
Is this your original work? What is the story behind these characters?

>>7007130
it's not supposed to be piercing blood ahahaha, he's like praying that's why I gave him an halo of blood

>>7007128
yeah you're right. I need to spend more time in construction and do less figuring out in sketching

>>7007144
thanks for the high effort help tho very bice

>>7007017
i finally got the OP again but there is still much more to be done

>>7007161
You mean I should lose the sketch lines eventually?
Makes sense

>>7007159
>>7007162
ooh oops my bad then, in that case try making the canvas larger so that the praying gesture is in the middle of the canvas, that should help it stand out. Really like you drawing.

>>7007127
I think he could use leaning on her a bit more to emphasize how much taller he is and make it more dynamic.
That's how I usually rape women myself.

>>7007170
you should disable it already, it should not be part of the finished post. The viewer should be able to see what you painted without sketch lines. For us, it is distracting.

As for the drawing you posted, you went waaay overboard with that dark brown brush (for example her belly). These dark lines should be thin and subtle. Pick a color next to that one and use it to cut those parts to thin lines. Thats what im thinking.

>>7007182
Highly debatable and you shouldn't be preaching it like it's some rule. I like the sketchlines and I think anon should decide for himself whether he wants to keep them or not

Is someone available to redline?

>>7007196
Some anon once advised me that if I wanted to keep the sketch I should at the very least give it some more thought and make proper lineart, either that or the sketch should just be like training wheels to set up your main color masses.
Still thank you, for the kind words

How do I start? Please don't say just draw, I'm literally retarded.

I feel like if I try to learn gesture and anatomy then I don't have form down, if I try to learn form I don't have construction down, construction is held back by perspective, perspective by composition and composition by construction and form.

It feels like I'm trying to learn five things at once, I've read the guide and none of it seems to stick. Am I just fucked?

Pic related, gave up half way through a bob ross paint by numbers and threw my red bull at the wall.

>>7007213
>It feels like I'm trying to learn five things at once
you're supposed to

>>7007213
>If I practice thing A I will not be good at thing B
>Pic related, gave up half way through a bob ross paint by numbers and threw my red bull at the wall.
>Painting is better than what most people in the world can do
Do you realize how retarded you sound?

>>7007213

Start by copying. I think you already have some of the basic down if you can follow bob ross that much. Do a lot of live drawing but don't mindless copy. Write notes on things you don't understand and seek answer from an experienced artist or just ask on forum somewhere reddit or even this god forsaken place. As you copy, just like how you feel you actually are learning multiple things at once.

Also learning art is not linear. You'll be hitting walls and sometimes the only thing to break that wall is to go back to basic. There will be things you missed along the way that's just how human brain works. Good luck with your art journey anon. Well, more like good luck to all of us. We all fucking need it.

>>7007213
>construction is held back by perspective, perspective by composition and composition by construction and form.
LOL, nonsense. You don't have to know jackshit about composition to draw a box. Just learn the very basics of perspective, basic forms if you want to learn "academically".

But I have no idea how all this is related to a paint by numbers thing. Just have more patience, you retard. And post an actual drawing so people can judge your abilities.

>>7007218

Bob ross was created by the CIA to keep bored housewives locked up at home painting, it's the tiktok of art even though his paintings are very good, he makes it foolproof.

It's literally just copy pasting what bob said and the use of a blender brush because I can't mix colours, and yes I already said I was retarded.

>>7007219

Thanks anon, I just feel so hopeless, I'm 23 and have wanted to do art since I was like 10, but every time I try then I get annoyed and despair and quit.

I'll try doing more copying and stuff.

>>7007220

Not really a drawing but here you go, I don't save my drawings as even thinking about them can cause me to not want to draw.

I'll try drawing more boxes too.

>>7007171
thank you so much, your help is really appreciated. I will make the canvas bigger

True art comes from god, not from this world (porn) this is why if you are motivated by the coom, you will never get good.

>>7007213
Draw photo references and from memory the things you find difficult until they become not difficult. Depending on your sense for whatever topic you pick it'll take anywhere from 1000-5000 pieces before it becomes second nature.

>>7007226
>and yes I already said I was retarded.
no no anon you're not retarded because there's something actually wrong with you you're retarded for letting your emotions create retarded logic that doesn't actually line up with reality.
Your problem is your emotions and how you think about yourself. Nothing really to do with art.

>>7007237

Yeah, I know, it's just so frustrating to see something so clearly in my head or on my screen that I want to draw and then just being unable to put the lines to paper in the correct way.

Thanks for the advice anons.

>>7007229
>>7007166
Happy to help

>>7007165
good luck, I think 1 or 2, 15 minute photo ref redraws should be good to get you going. Keep that up and try to draw what you see rather than what you think should be there. If you start from realism and get a feel for the forms and then go from memory you'll build up mileage and create your own shortcuts and stylizations

>randomly start drawing random shit from my head
>looks beautiful
>decide to sit down and try to draw something beautiful with or without reference
>ugly as sin
why the fuck does this happen I know I'm not the only one

drew this for the oc thread. it took me like 5 hours and i enjoyed myself the whole time. crazy shit.

>>7007371
>everything i've ever learned about drawing leaving my body as soon as i have to actually think about what i'm drawing

I come with a mighty need, i want to learn how to draw amazonians, big bitches that break trees like twigs.
Im talking tall mighty ladies, huge ladies!

>>7007384
Some real life refs of tall ladies can be found on this DA account: zaratustraelsabio
No link, 4chan doesn't accept it

>>7007384
you need help

getting there

I love drawing and learning, it's fun! It's a very slow process though, and most of our brains are now instant gratification machines that can't grasp the concept of delayed gratification and small steps. If you mastered learning to draw, I think you can do anything in life.

tried to make some sort of dystopian city. I feel I fucked up. I don't know how but it just ended up pretty bad. Tried to salvage it but ended up with too much paint on the brush, I'm really struggling with painting opaquely and in black and white, my values are way off and I can't control my brush and I end up losing a lot of details that the sketch had. How should I approach painting in opaque? I think I did things in the wrong order, should I do a wash first to kill the whites, then do the big shapes and work my way down in size?

And the perspective is messed up too.

Any advice?

>>7007399
https://www.deviantart.com/zaratustraelsabio

bruh these refs are terrible also you can post links observe

>>7007421
holy shit deviantart is unusable now AI garbage everywhere and the audacity that some of them even want money for that lmaooo

>>7007413
hey anon dont be like that, he wants to draw big strong ladies, i want to draw big strong ladies, everyone wins.

>>7007444
you didnt know? when you enter deviantart there is a 70% chance that someone might be selling an adoptable made with AI

>>7007161
>What is the story behind these characters?
Unless anon is Gooseworx, no the characters aren't original. They're from TADC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwAPLk_sQ3w

>>7006769
I tried to help but Ah, it became my own picture.

>>7007420
>I can't control my brush
what kind of godhand prodigy do you think you are to expect to freehand straight lines with a brush like that? everybody uses a bridge or ruler or mahl stick or [that japanese grooved ruler+rod thing] or with some things you can take advantage of a flat.
but you're trying to do some insane shit there m8.

Sup beg, today i did some cylinders.

>>7007379
the shading on her belly is confusing. but i like it overall
>>7007371
>looks beautiful
PYW so crabs can cure your optimism
>>7007232
why did god make us horny though?
>>7007213
keys to drawing
>>7007127
anon you already posted that + got featured in OP. you have to draw new thing to post in new thread. imagine the shit show if people kept reposting their old stuff lmao
>>7007056
booba

How do I start learning to color

>>7007523
https://color.adobe.com/create/color-wheel
select complementary color. Keep using it until it gives you an idea what looks good or not

Roast the fuck out of me.

>>7007129
Still no drawing done today. I win.

Quick doodle cause I wanna draw but haven't had ideas in like a year. I can't draw these characters at all lmao

>>7007523
just practice. dont skip colouring (im being a hypocrite here but i dont have my tablet rn)

>>7007091
moderndayjames has a good vid on perspective you could benefit from

>>7007507
disagree, perfectly straight lines dont look as good as hand drawn ones. you can draw one with a ruler in pencil as a guide to make it easier but just practice using your whole arm in one fluid motion and you'll get the hang of it. I'm useless with paints though so no advice there

>>7007017
Going through the Alphonso Dunn pen and ink book. Any other inking advice for a pre-beg inker?

does anyone know how peope get that colorish glare on the more /less saturated areas on linearts often with browns or blues and it ends up for avery lcealn look and I've manually tried it twice with nohope, pls help

>>7007563
post example

>>7007564
dont have any examples on hand but i tried to draw what it looks like,

>>7007567
chromatic aberration?

>>7007521
yeah i usually dont shade like that so i was kind of experimenting. im glad you like it though.

>>7007568
no its like black and one other color, sometimes blue, sometimes red, or brown, but never more than one color

>>7007567
not sure exactly what you mean but maybe you mean changing the lineart colour with a mask or opacity lock or duplicating a coloured lineart layer and blurring it then setting it to multiply or something???

>>7007567
ngl this is the worst moaihead I've seen

>>7007567
bruh what

todays mess. random stuff + decided to sit down and actually learn how to draw lips and noses so i'm not just guessing. tomorrow i tackle eyes

rehabilitation doodles after almost a month without drawing

>>7007581
How long does this take you? Looks very good and I respect the grind.

>>7007584
hard to measure since my adhd distracts the fuck out of me, but maybe around 4/5 hours? i'm also a pretty slow artist so it's prolly even longer kek

>>7007571
Idk what these words mean

>>7007567
Can you show us a real attempt? This may get us closer to the answer.

>>7007598
here’s a better attempt at it, I can’t find any examples,

>>7007601
clip layer?

>>7007552
>disagree, perfectly straight lines dont look as good as hand drawn ones.
Lmao, fuck off you moronic crab. Consider the medium and the subject, to say nothing of the user's skill level.
There is zero danger of lines becoming "perfect", there's a big demand for precision, and even max level pros use tools for painting this kind of thing.

>>7007639
they look out of place where all other lines are drawn without a ruler

How am I supposed to learn to draw and undo decades of failure?

>>7007644
You're an idiot.

>>7007646
Clean slate and an open mind.

i posted this at the end of last thread but I'm posting again to hopefully get a critique

>>7007654
I've heard this line literally every year.

>>7007656
Draw the feet, don't run away from your these HANDS. lol obvious stuff out of the way I would recommend trying to create folds that follow the contour of the body, even loose big shirts hand off and fold in certain ways around the arms/waist area. Also is this the mona lisa? where are her eyebrows anon?

>>7007507
>>7007639
>>7007651
pyw

>>7007659
Well are you doing it? What have you tried? Are you actually the didn't-draw-today-schizo and I'm being baited? Oh man.

>>7007665
I'm posting on /ic/ and talking with you

I don't know what to do about the gril
>>7007552
Cool, sonic

overhand grip fucking sucks and none of my animu animators use it, i'm not going to use it, fuck it.

>>7007669
you will die alone and no further than when you started and everyone will be happy

>>7007581
Pure GMI energy

Yo, I made this in about an hour to check my progress from may. I'd like to know if there's any outstanding/noticeable issues with it and what I could do to fix em. Thanks jn advance

>>7007384
snu-snu

>>7007691
Will they? Because I'm the one saying I can't learn it because I have no talent. If I die without unlocking the magic ability to draw, you'll cry that it was unrealized.

>>7007625
no its like blending in with the lineart layer not sitting on it

>>7006569

>>7007734
did she get run over by a four wheeler?

>>7007734
>that face
i respect the grind i respect the hustle, but what the fuck.

>>7007746
>>7007749
This one didn't

>>7007563
>>7007567
>>7007570
pls help

>>7007755
No

>I started drinking again after promising god to stop 7 days ago

>god

It's over

>>7007756

Don't feel like finishing this study but I'm happy with how the hair turned out. Any critiques?
>>7007656
Cute. Forearm is bending unnaturally and the upper arm is too short. Knees appear squished together. Keep grinding fundies.

>>7007570
A highlight?

Try painting over the lines with colour.

Or try duplicating you lines on a lower layer, moving them up and to the right and changing them to whatever gay colour you want idk what you're looking for.

>>7007765
>>7007755
no clue what you are even trying to do man

>>7007708
oh. duplicate your lines, recolour and then take a light eraser to the black ig, IDK.

>>7007786
>>7007788
>>7007789
no its like when its normal black lineart with a brush thats like kinda see thru at times due to limne like hardness or smthing like when u press on screen hard or soft u knwo? and it shwos up more when there es less black showing so it looks skety but its filled in with the color instead of just blanks

>>7007793
source* my bad, typo

>>7007545
I mean all right but this is gonna take a while

>>7007793
like this??

>>7007782
the face looks a bit flat. you should also think more about the planes of the body and how hard/soft to make each edge. clean up the edges of the body too, it'll improve the final product a ton. whats your reference?

>>7007835
close but no quite its like based soley on the lineart, nothing to to with lighting or anyting but more like line weight

>>7007835
i found an art image from google that actually shows the effect im talking about,

>>7007852
sorry its kind of small, just zoom alittle

>>7007852
Here's a normal file if this isn't bait

>>7007852
HUHH??????

>>7007852
boy i swear

>>7007854
yes exactly, you forgot whree i circled the specific parts in red wof the oarts im talking about but thanks anon

>>7007862
?????

>>7007864
what

>>7007854
duplicate the lineart layer
blur it to your hearts content
change the layer effect to multiply or someshit whatever floats your boat

>>7007867
what the hell is multiply do

Hi /beg/mates! Finally applied the boxes into an actual drawing. It's still hard to create consistent and confident lines though.

>>7007869
changes how the colour interacts with the layers below it

>>7007880
how to make itlook sketchy like tho? like charcole but with digital, its a mix of coloring and texture im looking for but seems like no one on this board seems to understand what im looking for :,[

>>7007882
add a texture filter to the brush or the layer. or you can just add a layer that's got the texture of a piece of paper or whatever, set it to super low opacity on multiply. image you sent looks like it has a noise filter

>>7007884
THESE TWO TOGETHER BUT IN DIGITAL APPS!!!!!! HOWW!!! IDK HOW MUCH MORE CLEAR I CAN GET WHY IS EVERYONE SO STUPID

>>7007886
just do both? fuck around with the things i mentioned till you get what youre after. i cant tell you how to get exactly what you're after theres a lot of options. you can move the duplicated layer around, apply textures to only one layer, change how much blur and what layer effect you use, etc

I redid her position like 10 times

>>7007889
her?

>>7007890
дa

>>7007888
but it doesn’t require any blur or this multiple thing ppl keep saying, its like a singlebrush ive seen ppl use yet its impossible to find, am i just retarded?

>>7007889
her?

>>7007895
bitch you can't even draw. go study instead of messing with this gimmick shit

>>7007895
you can use the airbrush with texture if you want it just in a few areas but that doesnt seem to be what the image you show has

>>7006477
Because I like them.
>>7007031
Cute! Great indication of texture
>>7007213
If you’re really retarded like I am, do Betty Edwards’s book, then the first couple lessons of DrawABox, and then do Proko’s beg course.
>>7007281
Excellent. Interesting how you changed the costumes
>>7007379
Good job, anon. You’re good enough now that anatomy study would make sense. Good atmosphere here
>>7007384
Learn anatomy, then copy the amazons you wanna draw. I recommend Oga from Elf-san wa something something
>>7007417
These look great! Good job! Solid construction but still lively
>>7007420
Cities require perspective skills to draw well. Good effort, trad chad
>>7007521
Don’t just copy drawings from the book. Try to do your own from photo refs. Good forms though
>>7007545
I quite like this. Got a bigger version? Might use it as wallpaper
>>7007552
Looks awesome tho
>>7007582
Oh yay! I missed you, fren. These look lovely as usual. You maintained your hand drawing gains!
>>7007581
I kneel. Lovely Bridgmen and Bridgwomen
>>7007670
Very Greco-Roman, kinda neat. The two figures are very different sizes tho
>>7007889
Little better, good job. Doesn’t seem like they’re sitting on the same ground plane though. Figure on the right seems to be floating a little, or maybe it’s just the knee. Based imagination drawer
>>7007695
Perspective and feeling the form are the two biggest issues. The thing on/over his head looks like a flat 2d cutout. Try rotating forms and doing the organic form exercise from DAB or Dynamic Sketching
>>7007734
>>7007752
I’d postpone learning to render for now, and focus on improving your figure drawing and 3d forms. Once you have a stronger grasp of formt, learn about simplifying values, and hard vs soft edges and cast vs form shadows. (Aka shadow mapping.) Your lines and hatching are very impressive, you’ll probably become an incredible inker
>>7007782
What the other guy said. Work on your edges. Breddy gud, anon
>>7007874
Not bad, fren

>>7007897
??????

>>7007900
you heard me. get back on the grind, bitch

>>7007899
>Doesn’t seem like they’re sitting on the same ground plane though
Yeah I'm trying to get there. Your studies are awesome they make me wanna do bridgeman.

>>7007899
oh yeah, now that's some form feeling. very nice

>>7007901
i do draw you tard, im trying to do this textured/ colored way of doing lineart that so many pros use but no one can fucking tellme how no matter how hard i try

>>7007886

so you want to paint in two colors but with a textured brush?

Is this what you want? You can use any brush with this method. But only for PS though. I don't know what app you're using.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTyOgbq3vG0

>>7007907
NO!!! one black one any other color!!! someone already tried the glitch effect thing to recommend me but it wasnt what i wanted, its like the grainy almost worn out look that lineart has sometimes

>>7007905
bitch this is what you posted as an example >>7007567
go grind bitch

>>7007910
it was afucking example i did in 6 seconds in ms paint u idiot retard retardr

>>7007909

this video show one example but with that method you can use any amount of color and any color of your choice. you can also replace the brush with any textured brush of your choice.

if that's not it either I guess no one can help you unless you provide a good example. Not something your scribbled.

>>7007913
likee this but the lighter grey would be a blue or rich brown color, pls understand, i can’t specifify anymore bro

>>7007916
the part thats pitch black would stay black if that helps

>>7007916
>>7007917

???

>>7007917
Do a brush tip similar to one used for pencil under a grey scale template. Use with black, grey, and white, then save that as registered material. Duplicate a good pencil brush, go under the tools settings, customize it how you want with pressure and all. Change the sub color to a color you want, main as black or dark gray. See if that works.

>>7007734

>>7007916
>>7007922

This is how I do it. Just regular gradient map layer set to Color mode. Just draw on a layer under it. Color can be change anytime.

If this is not it then sorry I can't help you.

>>7007886
like these?

>>7007916
Ya gotta be fucking kidding bro. Post your real work, I get the feeling we're all wasting our time trying to help you.

>>7007903
oh, thank you. Bridgman is hard to decipher unless you already have anatomy knowledge and combine it with either a strong sense of form or good observational accuracy. Give it a shot! Your anatomy looks pretty good to me. If copying Bridgman feels like dragging your brain across a chalkboard, just try again after some more study.
>>7007904
Thanks, fren! That’s very motivating to hear, I appreciate it.
>>7007916
I think you need to find specific examples of actual drawings showcasing the exact effect you’re talking about. And if you can’t find any, it’s probably a sign. I wouldn’t worry about brushes or effects or anything like that until you’re already pretty good. Also, I’m pretty retarded so I’m personally guilty of a LOT of “procrastination by preparation” and I rarely notice it unless someone points it out to me. Is it possible you’re subconsciously focusing on this to put off drawing? In any case, if you can’t figure it out, I wouldn’t sweat it.
>>7007932
Have you done anything to specifically train observational drawing skills? Like Drawing On The Right Side Of The Brain, or Eviston’s course, or Dorian Iten, or Krenz or something? I think doing a little more of that would help you a lot.

>>7007922
YES FINALLY, SPECIFICALLY THESE ONES, HOW DID U DO THAT

Fwap

>>7007939

This
>>7007933

Just pick different color

>>7007942
no i mean how do i do this one my own drawing app thing, idk what that guy is using in the image, honestly looks liks ome sort of space shit

>>7007939
>>7007942

Oh I didn't read properly. Well those are just me layering my stylus pressure. Brush lighter then get harder and harder.

>>7007660
oh yeah I forgot about the brows
feet and hands scare me..
>>7007782
>Forearm is bending unnaturally and the upper arm is too short.
her left arm, right?
>Knees appear squished together
i was trying to have the knees together at the top, and the lower leg kicked out a little, like externally rotated, but it came out awkward
>Keep grinding fundies.
i still don't understand what this means desu, I'm just gonna copy more anime

>>7007940
I hate this method. Distinguishing facial features are largely based on bone, not fat, so emphasis should be on the jaw, cheekbones, brow, etc. Instead it just looks like they're puffing out their cheeks with air, it feels unrelated to being human.

I like to be a schizo poster and pretend to be 3 people at the same time, and people never figure it out, it's fun.

>>7007950
same

>>7007950
r u talking abt me???

Would really appreciate any kind of advice. I think I was a bit too ambitious with my pose. I think parts of it don't quite make sense. Trying stuff I have never tried before seems like a good way to get better though.

>>7007956
I really like this. I think you didn't plan for the shoulders, the chest and arms and neck all just kinda cascade.

>>7007952
>7007952
>>7007953
>>7007950
This was all me.

>>7007958
no it wasnt, post your fucking work

>>7007958
lieing is a sin

>>7007964
We are all sinners.

>>7007957
Yeah. That was very difficult to do and I am not really sure how to do it better. It might take more than I have to pull off a pose at an angle like this. Maybe I should have turned him around just a bit more to the side so his left arm extends out to the side a little further than it does. Putting more thought into the pose isn't a bad idea.

>>7007937
I have spent so much time drawing on the same exact tablet that it unfortunately has now become very scratched and difficult to see through (in this one very specific spot), but I cannot deviate from this position when I am drawing without experiencing a lot of pain.

(My setup is specific to my overuse injuries)

Thus, I have no choice but to draw with this gigantic blurry spot right in the middle of the screen which greatly hampers my ability to copy things accurately, so I have to compensate by drawing even more than I would have otherwise.

And I can’t afford shit, so this is my only shot at making it.

If I’m still alive by then, I’ll post better copies on a better tablet.

(And hell even trad irritates the shit out of my forearms because of the friction of the pencil ‒ my hands / arms are ruined from drawing, but digital is the only one where I can still somewhat crank shit out on a daily basis without too much pain)

Probably also why everything I draw looks so schizophrenic

I can probably also look forward to being blind later in life, but I try to just focus on drawing (which I can’t though, because of the blurry spot, hahaha)

I promise I’ll make /ic/ proud one day.

>>7007969
From imagination

>>7007956

i feel like my boxes are getting significantly worse which is very ironic.
how do i draw literally anything else?
like furry porn.

>>7007971
I really like the texture that you added to the shading in certain areas. The hair as well is pretty neat. I feel like incorporating stuff like that could really make a huge difference. I have a lot to work on.

>>7007975
>5k x 5k
>No sense of space
>It's one box
>It's not even right
Oh how it tickles me so

>>7007984
sorry i made him a furfag, i thought it'd tick u off kek, anyways cool pixel art, keep it up anon

>>7007985
>>5k x 5k
Did i upload the fucking 5k version oh my god i'm getting sloppy
The rest seems par for the course though, how do you propose I fix that, Anon? What does any of it even mean?

>>7007989
Naw its cool. It actually works pretty well haha. The texture on the tail is really neat.

>>7007990
Drawing boxes only helps you to make straight lines and establish space. You'd be better off reading/watching material for perspective, and draw various boxes at different angles in a perspective grid. But really, you should always branch out and do something creative. Your boxes are getting worse because you have no direction, you're just drawing lines without meaning to make a "box" as you spiral into madness. There is literally no reason to draw 100 boxes unless each box relates to another, and just drawing one box is equally pointless.

>>7007975
I can't help with furry porn, but I can help with your box
Verification not required.

>>7008007

i havent been able to work on it much but the linearts almost done

>>7007842
Here's the reference.

I love drawing sexy women.

>>7008005
>establish space
Where the fuck was that in the DaB lesson. He just said 'make box' and so i did and now it's all I can do.
>just drawing one box is equally pointless.
Yes I know but would you rather me post an empty canvas because that seems more pointless.
>>7008007
Fucking kek

>>7008020
just draw nigger
I got good by drawing a fuckton of porn cause I was horny and you can too. dab is a supplement

>>7008040
This, for 99% of human history we've been drawing without needing dab. just draw what you like while learning the fundamentals along the way

>>7008011
try blocking in areas of shadow first. then start to render. you'll have a better time if you pick a reference photo with more distinct areas of light and dark and work your way up to stuff that's more vague. don't be afraid to lose detail in areas of shadow, a lot of problems seem to come from trying to give the same amount of rendering attention to dark areas as light areas. let them be vague

>>7007420

>>7008040
thank you for the revolutionary advice anon i will be back next thread with an even shittier box as that's all i can do.

>>7008014
When are you gonna start?

Stopping for tonight
I feel the limits of my abilities

>>7008060
this is appealing as fuck

Kind of a weird ask, but are there any artists who have done highly detailed renderings of sand waves? I'm trying to figure out how it would even look to draw and render an oceanlike wave of fine particulates, I'm not sure what the balance between form and detail should be (plus I'm really bad at drawing waves)

>>7008065
Sorry slight correction
I just realized that sand waves was a phrase in my mind because those do exist
But I was thinking more of waves that curl in on themselves and break, etc

>>7007664

weee

>>7008117
dont think the pole would be infront of her feet in that pose

trying to colour directly without blend modes. Did end up using a multiply layer to help push the values a bit more but I'll try to avoid that next time....

>>7008120
you right, thanks

>>7007017
Does anyone have some good chubby <-> fat female anatomy/pose reference sources? I already have morpho's pdf and it's quite solid. I just need more irl references. Online chub artists tend to smooth out the skin a lot and simplify the fat into spheres.

>>7008134

>>7008124
>>7008134
>>7008117
>>7008080
>>7008014
>>7007971
>>7007956
these are very nice good job anons

>>7008065
>>7008076
andman (marvel) art may help.

>>7008124
looks really nice, can only nitpick. the white strokes in the center of her hair look a bit sloppy. and finish the eye. and maybe darken the ear

>>7007939
Paint over or under it.

Trying watercolor without penciling in first

>>7007823
Not that kind of roasting (LOL) :DDD
>>7007899
>I quite like this. Got a bigger version? Might use it as wallpaper
Thanks, here you go. This is the biggest version I have

>>7008240

>>7008241

Critique please :)

>>7008020
>he fell for the dab permabeg trap

is japanese jazz fusion objectively the best music for drawing?

>>7008396
maybe. whatever works for you :)
if you're on a jazz fusion kick check out space dandy boobies wonderland album

I need critique too, the pose is killing me but I think it's going fine

>>7008240
>>7008241
>>7008242
nice 2hus!!. Whenever I try traditional it ends up so messy but yours looks quite nice to me. I would get one of those tombow pencil erasers and try to make it look a bit cleaner, those things were a game changer to me and were like 5 bucks. Makes you be able to deliver way more precise lines and delete graphite stains without touching much else

>>7008258
Make her look at something. If she's not looking at anything make her look at the viewer. Looks way way better than looking at the void.
Both legs need more work. Regarding the lifted leg, the upper part of the leg needs to end closer to the knee. Also that shape needs a bit of work overall. I get it since you don't look at knees on the regular, but look up some pose with the leg in that same position

I would also make her hips wider, the ribcage a bit more noticeable, and exaggerate the pose a bit, but thats just me,

>>7008435
Thanks. I think your Meiling's pose is good as it is.

>>7008435
Looks good but a bit stiff. Try making it more dynamic or look up references, it looks fine but maybe look into adding a line of action as you redraw to create a stronger pose

fuck lineart, I'm done with it (for now)

>>7008496
My mind keeps saying "something isn't right" and you know what I think it's the gru nose and not the eyes

>>7008496
consider drawing slower and flipping the canvas

>>7008496
Nose is fucked, head too big, neck cuts off. Minor adjustments and it's good

painted a spanish luna moth, first time trying watercolors

I did not draw today.

>>7008267
pyw

something done extremely fast
critique required

i heard that you must try to make drawings very fast in order to increase your speed, is that true?

>>7007899
Good gesture practice
>>7008241
V cute

>>7008258
Get rid of sketch lines?

>>7008577 it’s never going to hurt knowing how to draw fast and it’s not good to get attached to a single piece
Not feeling v inspired today

>>7008577
critique done extremely fast: ew no

>>7008577
Slow is smooth, smooth is fast but yes practice using less lines to depict more and you'll get speed

Im liking how this is turning out so far

>Pirate entirety of Vilppu
>Download all of Loomis in pdf form
>Download Right Side of the Brain, Drawing for an absolute and utter beginner, and many others
>Have not actually sat down to draw for practice or fun in a quarter of a year now
Man i wish i wasn't such a retarded cunt goddamn

>>7008733
Did you read any of it at least?

>>7008734
Not in entirety. I usually make it through 1/4th of the book and then get filtered.
I've done little bits and pieces of Loomis, Betty, Vilpp, Brent Evinston and whoever wrote KTD.
Despite skimming through the total amount of hours i've put into drawing is probably below 100 which is just shameful beyond belief.
I've got tons of free time too i just never use it for anything worth doing.
I kinda like the process of drawing but the dopamine that gets me pales in comparison with porn or factorio or even just thinking about the stuff that i'd like to draw

>>7008665
>using less lines to depict more
i never thought about it that way, thanks anon!

>>7008738
I usually get stunlocked with daydreaming the plans out then never crank anything out unless there’s that spark.
Can you schedule a time to do practice or something you actually want to draw?

>>7008749
>Can you schedule a time to do practice or something you actually want to draw?
Yes.
I work but my hours are lax and i have no other responsibilities. I've got like 10+ hours of free time on my hands each day every day.
I usually "schedule" it for afternoon and then decide its too late for drawing and i'm tired and and and etc.
I guess i gotta try it once more and just see it through.

>>7008753
Do it after you take your adderall or coffee. Just for 10 minutes to start. You have to force yourself sometimes, or it'll just end up being put off.

>>7008756
I don't take adderall. I'd be so fucked if i did.
No other way than to just bruteforce it ig.

>>7008733
lack of discipline comes from lack of spiritual integration. you need to face your fears and regrets, then come back to drawing

>>7008759
Coffee. And go to one of the prompt threads. You'll dick around with something you probably haven't drawn before and get a feel. Ready, and go.

>>7008768
I'm not strong enough to face what i fear. Are you sure i can't just power through it?
>>7008774
On it!

>>7008779
you can for a time, but some day it'll crush you man. the secret is you actually do have that power. it's what makes you human.

>>7008738
What really helped me get into drawing better was streaming on twitch. Starting a stream to do art in really forces you to focus on the one project that you are working on for a long period of time. Just kind of listen to music, talk to yourself/chat if there is one. The threat of somebody watching and letting them down in a way really keeps me on task better.

What do I need to improve on for next time?

>>7008789
Your fundies.

>>7008789
you should add shrek as a participant

>>7008782
>you can for a time,
Good enough. I could only face my fears if i were to dissociate and completely disregard the end result, at which point it wouldn't have much sense.
I can't operate otherwise in regards to that, but its good that i don't have to. Bruteforcing for a time seems like a good enough of an option.
>>7008785
I feel like you need a bit of skill first to even get anyone to watch the thing, no?
I do get how that would make you focus more though

>>7008789
I feel nothing positive about this image. You thought about anatomy, you thought about fundamentals, you certainly moved your pen, but what is enjoyable here. A badly drawn animu gril and a political statement? Feels like a black hole covered with below average skill and knowledge.

>>7008799
Do you? I don't. Having someone breathe down my neck when I already feel barely competent at a task sounds like actual hell.

>>7008789
Why does it look so 3d? What is your workflow?

>>7008802
In my experience people give it their best when they're pushed to do it. So i can imagine how that would translate to drawing.
Idk probably a person by person type of a thing.

>>7008789
your soul, kill yourself

>>7008799
>I feel like you need a bit of skill first to even get anyone to watch the thing, no?
Not really. People will filter in and out from time to time even just starting out. But besides, having people watch isn't even really the point right?

>>7008789
put quaquavel hanging from a rope in the background

>>7008801
>>7008813
Did the shoe fit?

>>7008821
I would feel no different about this image if the shirt said "Death to all faggots"
You drew out of bitterness and retardation rather than creativity.

be honest how are my gestures and how can I improve in 2 minute gestures

>>7008824
>try to appeal to alt-right retards
>nobody likes your shit, not even the brainrotten polfags that eat up everything
>the only solace you can take is that maybe your /beg/ shit ended u hurting someone
must be a bad day to you

>>7008848
Wrong person?

>>7008804
I start off by making my reference with a 3d model app, then I draw on top of it while trying not to blatantly trace it. I draw a few rough sketches before I draw the final lines. I work on and off for like two weeks on the same piece (Probably a total of 8 hours), I’m not happy with it, I wanna work quicker. Is there anything in particular that would make it look better?
Also I’m not >>7008821

>>7008851

>>7008856
>Traced
>Can't even do that correctly.
>Fucking 8 hours
Never under any circumstance should you trace.
You should use a reference, you can overlay your work to check yourself, but you should never draw over an image. There is absolutely no benefit to doing this, you aren't training your eye or your muscles and you aren't learning anything.
Learn anatomy, learn perspective, don't shade with black- learn how colors behave in a real environment. Do not take short cuts, keep grinding, and take time to draw for yourself, for fun and personal enjoyment, not to broadcast a message with a poorly made drawing- you made a meme by tracing.

>>7008856
Thank you for your honesty, what I would say is it doesn't look like you're doing much with the medium of 2D that couldn't be achieved with a basic cell-shaded scene using rigged characters in 3D. I would recommend experimenting more with your style

>>7008839
not bad, it's good that you're drawing the entire body with each one. i think you could try to include more interior lines that define the forms or add to the flow/gesture of the figure, like the latissimus dorsi when the arms are raised. playing around with the whole straights v curves concept could help add some more dynamism too, especially when a limb is thrust forward or backward like in this drawing.
it's good that you're including cross contour lines to indicate which direction a limb is going, but the construction still feels a little technical... i would check out the book "Drawn to Life (Vol 1)" by Walt Stanchfield for a more "organic" approach to gesture drawing

>>7008856
>3D models

My brother in Allah you can get this type of reference from the BBC, why do you bother posing a model and risk making the pose even more stiff.

Also at least pick a child sized one, those kids are like 13.

As someone new considering art I don’t even know where to start learning how to draw. YouTube? A book? Would I get better if I just start drawing random things which would improve my craft naturally or do I need lessons and/guidance? I want to be able to paint like pic related

zxc

>>7008891
painting is different from drawing, think of sculpting and drawing, it is the same kind of difference, I have no idea where you start if your objective is just to paint

>>7008891
You should probably set aside your painting goals for now and learn how to draw. When you are atleast high beg switch to painting

>>7008898
Not the guy but my uncle is terrible at drawing but he can paint some pretty landscapes

>>7008896
Eh if you can’t draw then you can’t paint, at least not like in the example. Being able to draw on a basic level is a fundamental step to being able to paint. I don’t doubt Davinci and jmw Turner can do better than stick figures.

>>7008898
Where should I start? Is practicing alone enough or do I need a book? Did artists back in the day so it natural? I know the important ones went to school and were apprentices

>>7008905
Bob Ross couldn't draw could he? If you want to paint people, sure, you need to learn figure drawing, but I think that if you want to paint landscapes you can do it without knowing how draw, you just need perspective and learn how to stroke the brush to create leaves, grass and so on

>>7008296
gloomy aesthetic + flat chest + toeless legwear hits most of my kinks
I like what you're doing and wish you the best in your art journey
what's your socials if you have it

wip for tonight. Making myself do heads in more angles.

>>7008934
that angle for the head looks nice, good work

Sup beg, now Vilppu wants me to have FUN while drawing!

>>7008891
you could read sticky. or keys to drawing
>>7008869
pro
>>7008851
cute and coomable
>>7008839
i wouldnt call these gestures, but maybe you have different art teachers than i had. just keep drawing
>>7008804
he used the secret drawing technique called consistent shading, he even put cast shade on the floor. and a sprinkle of perspective on the background
>>7008539
hopelessly flat
>>7008496
very nice anime thot
>>7008435
the arms arent properly foreshortened. i still coom though
>>7008296
you want a little more details on genitals as coomer artist
>>7008240
very nice
>>7008222
looks like abstract coom material. thumbs up!
>>7008124
i kneel
>>7008014
you forgot to put the 1 line showing where her spine is and other where her dcapula, turning her back completely flat
>>7008010
coomable fish
>>7007969
cough up 30$ for screenless tablet from xp-pen
>>7007940
your loomis heads mog mine so hard i kneel
>>7007545
you are basically impressionism painter chad

I'm trying to draw the character on the left, but I can't get the face right.
Is the head just inherently fucked up?

First time attempting clothes. I'm also pretty happy with how her hair turned out. I'm gonna try to refine it into a decent lineart next.

>>7008124
what courses did you do to get to that bro? very nice

>>7008946
I'm afraid I thought of that too, the problem is that I have to draw at an incline for my hands / arms to not hurt too much, but if I put a screenless tablet onto the incline, I have to look up at the monitor screen, which ends up destroying my neck after a few minutes

I don't why that combination causes this, but it's possibly from wrestling during my younger days; we would be doing bridges and all types of crazy exercises / maneuvers using our necks

(hence the screen-tablet being on the incline in the picture - my neck in that position hurts less for whatever reason)

I have found the liquify tool

>>7007521
>anon you already posted that + got featured in OP
Huh I didn't notice, neat. I usually repost if something got no attention. There are so many people needing critiques that art gets stepped over a lot.

>>7007180
Based as fuck, thank you for this anon.
>>7007161
>Is this your original work? What is the story behind these characters?
Well I did draw it without references or anything but no the characters are not mine. If you haven't watched the amazing digital circus yet PLEASE do so it will either change your life or at the very least entertain you for 30 minutes.

>>7008913
thanks anon, I got a twitter
https://twitter.com/Jirka309

and pixiv where I'm posting my nsfw https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/102150123

>>7008974
Mostly just drawing from observation, and gradually forming my own internal rules such as eye spacing, nose length etc etc etc. when I was doing my black and white portraits I was gradually also adding rules for where certain values do what. Now I am trying to do that for colour I guess. Hope it makes sense feel free to ask any questions :)

>>7007213
take drawing as a meditation instead of a challenge to be surpassed and you will have a much better time

My masterpiece

>>7009092
ya know what not bad

>>7009092
where to cop that fit?

I switched to a new tablet and program

bleh blah. eyes are hard af, but i had some AH HAH moments. gud day

>>7008789
This is the equialent of some SJW black trans queer shit. I would tell you to draw something else, but you clearly lack any identity and imagination, so the best course is to give up. You are the trash of society.

Happy new year /beg/. Haven't drawn since early december, here's to building a daily drawing habit in 2024

>>7009232
rent free

>>7008958
Use egg shape and follow construction lines, should help a lot.

>>7008963
IDK how to make the wrinkles look good.

Shit in my fucking underwear

>>7009373
I'm not good at folds but usually you want to follow your form with wrinkles. Keep in mind that there are tension points and lose points.
Tension points stretch fabric so it shouldn't make folds that much. Like boobs in your pic.

>>7008577
Yes it is! I was a drawfag for a while and being forced to draw fast made me learn how to properly pace myself. Usually if you spend too long on a single piece you'll start seeing things things that aren't actually wrong and starts fucking it up. Also here's what I'd change.

>>7009422
Thanks for the response. I've been studying tension and folds, but I'm having a hard time applying the principles to my reference. Yours certainly looks more natural, but she's wearing a football kit which is tight in some places and loose in others and kind of lopsided. I think I managed to get something looking okay by combining the reference and the "textbook". I guess me copying the reference might look off if I drew her pose slightly differently, now that I think about it.

>>7009261
I will. Thanks a bunch!

>>7007017

>>7009425
i was told that before, and it happened to me again a few days ago, for some reason i at my best when i let myself flow and stop overthinking stuff

>>7009645
now that's some tasty gesture. good stuff

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