/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>7004468
This is how giraffes sleep look it up

>>7004477
Fuck off Lunaticsoda

Any crit?

Why doesn’t the sticky have anything about prompting in it? Is it just outdated? I made a New year’s resolution to become an artist this year and would like some guidance on employing ai tools for making art.

>>7004485
what i do??? Im just trying to draw

>>7004490
what's your fucking problem
im just trying to draw and you're singling me out

trying a new big splotchy dry roller brush cause I always liked how things look with it

>>7004383
I was fortunate enough to get a full-ride scholarship to some shitty art school in the middle of nowhere back in 06'. Their illustration program was actually just a graphic design program in disguise and I became a graphic designer out of college. So my actual illustration skills are self taught too. 15+ years later I have a house, a wife, and two kids. I haven't made a dime from my illustrations, I just give them away to family and friends for free. My point? I have no experience or guidance in selling art. I do however have that amount of time of experience in marketing, and I can tell you as I've already said in this thread that marketing is the avenue to success in all artistic fields. It's good that you are making progress, and I advise you that if you're going to start publishing pieces begin to build a presence first and foremost. And no, that does not mean posting your /wip/ to 4chan. Even if it pains you to do so, enter the social media space. Post little Tiktoks of your process with quick edits, stream yourself drawing and make sure to talk to ANYONE that comes into chat, if you don't have any social skills it'll help you develop them. If you want to get metaphorical with it, you are the block of marble and you have to start carving out an identity from yourself. You will not make it if no one knows who you are. Simple as.

That being said, it's not as daunting as you think, and don't expect quick results. You are young, you have no one depending on you but yourself. Keep making progress, but start thinking about the business side of things before you disappoint yourself, get ahead of it and you'll find success.

>>7004468
Remember:
before criticising any of my work I post, I will require this information about you
1. your full name - name and surname
2. the address of your current residence
3. the address of your workplace
4. your marital status and the name of your spouse, if any
5. your annual wage, before and after tax
6. your license plate
7. your place of birth
8. the names of your parents
9. your credit card number and the expiration date
and finally you MUST post your work.
If but one of these points is not met, or, if I am unable to find a Wikipedia page about you, that matches the information you have given, that lists you as a prominent artist in any artistic field, all your critique directed towards me or my work is invalid and actually the opposite of what you say is true and my work is perfect and devoid of any mistakes.
Also, when you do criticise my work, you can not use any word included in the following list because your post will automatically get filtered by my automatic filtering system. You must treat me like a toddler when you criticise my work or I will cry.
https://rentry.org/za5t5

Let's keep it nice and civil in here, folks.

Opinions?

>>7004477
Hell yeah

>>7004468

>>7004490
t-rex arms

>>7004517
this ain't /salt/...

I will continue not drawing.

>>7004519
I thought coom was allowed in /beg/ & /int/

anyway it's time to draw more senran kagura boi

>>7004490
Excuse the quick over-drawing. In short:

-Head too tall
-Arms too short, the arm in the foreground should be larger due to perspective.
-You gave her two sets of hips, I understand she may be a robot or some shit and those are joints but it looks off.

>>7004517
You already posted this last thread, at least do something to do it before reposting. Fun concept but I don't care for lewd shit for the sake of it.

>>7004479
I like it.

>>7004477
>>7004491
>>7004495
>>7004507
>>7004519
>>7004520
>>7004527
Man this thread's off to a terrible start huh. Really is a containment thread.

>>7004540
well im trying to draw some proofs

>>7004536
I got no feedback from last thread

>>7004540
There's no such thing as a good /beg/ thread, its absolutely a containment thread. But I'm here for the one or two anons who need some motivation and are actively trying.

>>7004550
>But I'm here for the one or two anons who need some motivation and are actively trying.
and i'm not?
fucking bias shit here

>>7004545
It looks good for what it is, nothing glaringly off about it; but its not a finished work, more like a proof of concept. Push it to the next level is all I can tell you. Consider stepping out of the void and adding some background or terrain.

>>7004556
Well then, the thread is young and there isn't much to critique yet. I'm not responding to the clearly low effort/autist drawings.

>>7004544
>trying
for 10 years

rise and shine time to do 2 hours of gesture

>>7004560
that's not true
>>7004558
talk about being discouraging

Getting back into figure practice. Haven't really done any since november and it shows. Bleh.

>>7004568
I don't mean to be discouraging I just have no context since I haven't seen your other work. I only assume that you haven't branched out into adding backgrounds into your pieces and am complimenting you that the only thing I can think of as a critique is to push your drawing even further. You did good, anon.

>>7004583
whatever

>>7004583
I didn't say whatever the other anon said. Its true that I should work on backgrounds but I find it boring. Thank you for the feedback anon

Hinakoats and Ao the Lesbo asking "Did any of you eat the last cheese snacks? Fuck you".

>>7004550
> But I'm here for the one or two anons who need some motivation and are actively trying.
Well you’ve failed miserably.

>>7004599
i know he tried disregarding everyone else's drawings.

>>7002720
>>7002710
I should really be doing Bridgman studies... This design is like an autistic sonic OC and I can’t believe it’s an actual thing. It’s so busy and edgy and goofy that it’s looped around from cringe into kino. Anyway, here’s Russell Crowe. (Shamefully, I had partially trace his head because I couldn’t get a likeness for the life of me.)
>>7004020
Can’t really read this from the thumbnail. With such a busy design, that’s not surprising. The bike is also hard to read even zoomed in. It sort of looks like the rear wheel is in a different perspective from the rest of the bike. Almost like the motorcycle is in two different halves, one in front and one behind the girl’s leg. The front wheel seems not to match the front fork perspective. Maybe her butt cheek closest to us should be a lil bigger. Overall very good, ambitious. They seem to be placed in the same scene with the same light, so you’re improving. Good job!
>>7003777
Amazing
>>7003129
The brightest, most detailed, and most contrasty spot is what draws the eye. This makes it look like the point of your painting is the ledge above the figures, rather than the action going on below
>>7003340
Similar issue
>>7004477
I love your googley-eye art
>>7004485
>lunaticsoda
Oh fuck, that’s him! Googley-eye anon! I’ve been looking for him forever, thank you!
>>7004479
That’s amazing artwork, anon. You’re feeling the form like a motherfucker
>>7004490
I can’t see much to critique without this being further along
>>7004511
Looks like you’ve done lots of (female, coom) torso studies, which is great. That’s a damn fine torso. You just need to do more full bodies including the head, neck, arms, hands, feet, etc. to bring those up to the level of your (female) torsos
>>7004502
Looks neat. Push your values more
>>7004544
This brings me joy
>>7004569
Yeah daily gesture/figure quicksketch is something I’ve let slip too
>>7004517
Her hands are floating above the ground. Neat idea tho

>>7004626
oh my god, RUSSELL CROWE NO RELATIONS TO VELVET CROWE IS FINALLY HERE???
you see this people, this is VELVET CROWE no RELATIONS to Russell Crowe; The Pope's Exorcist.

>>7004626
oh yeah im saving this so now i can finally post RUSSELL CROWE no relations to Velvet Crowe; The Lord of Chlamydia. speaking about tales of now i can draws some code vein face and scalet nexus and that needy streaming girl now that i bought em from the steam winter sale

>>7004612
Do I really need to critique every limbless torso with the same anime girl head thats been posted 10 times already in this thread?

>>7004536
>head too tall
>two sets of hips
Please don't critique when you don't know what you're talking about anon
>>7004490
I recommend asking /draw/, this is way too above /beg/s level

>>7004651
Don't be disingenuous, anon. At least use a reference of the same angle, drawings circles around hips does not explain anons drawing, my fix is closer to the effect I presume he is trying to achieve. Post your work, please.

>>7004669
This is the effect that op is trying to achieve, which works well considering he understands how the pelvic bone and leg can be separated into large shapes that fit into eachother like puzzle pieces. Op exaggerates these forms obviously but not in a way that is inherently wrong. Your sketchy redraw ignores the small intricacies of anatomy that he already has a better understanding of. And no, the head is not too long.

>>7004651
>>7004669
Pretty sure he's trying to draw Aegis

trying to get back into the swing of things after a hectic holidays and start of the new year. my basic knowledge seems to be still there somewhat, but my line quality got fucked.

>>7004691
well why didn't you say so

>>7004693
I just did. I'm just a rando trying to clear up the confusion I'm seeing.

>>7004692
whos the artist you were practicing in top left? your lines look fine enough to me

>>7004702
https://twitter.com/morikomorl

>>7004691
So it was pointless arguing about stylistic choices that the original character designer made. I wish people posted references or at least who they were drawing man, what the hell.

>>7004691
I clarified in the original post " I understand she may be a robot or some shit and those are joints but it looks off."

>>7004687
Dude, I understand your point but you're honestly reaching. Even if that was the effect he was hoping to achieve it wasn't achieved. And like the anon said, he's drawing a robot which is what I had assumed in the original post because it looks like a socketed leg. Its not inherently wrong considering its a robot, yes.

Waste of time, this thread.

Sup beg, i made the thing. It is all sorts of permabeg, but whatever. I could easily spend one more evening session polishing this turd (mostly adding shading) but fuck that. Xmas are over, back to the grind. i cannot let the permabegosis win. also why am i drawn so much to the only medium where i suck the most (the ink)?

>>7004479
i kneel

>>7004714
pawell what is your issue how come you didn't pick any of my drawings

Today, I decided to draw.
Do her pose look from a slightly lower pov or its still at same level of the camera? probably I should search a ref

>>7004714
Schizo-core, all that's missing is a "Activate your Windows" message on the bottom right but the update prompt is good enough.

>>7004721
She looks slightly lower POV as compared to the ogres behind her; but overall its looking good.

>>7004725
ye they're just placeholders ill put them in the same pov later

>>7004721
chicken scratch you’re ngmi even in the sketching faces your lines should be confident like a finalized work

>>7004734
sry i was busy fucking ur mummy lol
ur an baby man, big fat baby man wit fatty round hands, an ur mum a bitch
a fat bitch lol

>>7004714
But why the text
WHY

>>7004714
Look at the second right table..bro you studied perspective books for a year straight and you still fucked up, I can't

>>7004714
better than the work of the DAB crab, I would advice to put on hold the books and just draw.

>>7004710
>>7004691
>>7004687
original Aigis anon here, didn't expect this to happen after I posted the drawing. So where does that leave the crit?

>>7004758
WHAT HE DO??

>>7004714
Still better than doodle schizo.

Idk if this is the right place to ask this (or if this thread is for artwork critique only) but, as someone who wants to start learning how to draw, should I invest on a digital drawing tablet or is it better as a begginner to start out with pen and paper and make the transition later? Price isn't an issue btw, I just want to know what is generally recommended for starters.

>>7004714
SCHIZO KINO

>>7004468
used a reference here, but did the same workflow
>Gesture->construction->muscles, then I added a new contour layer tracing the outside of the muscles and finally did shading based off the muscles.
I suck at shading though and can't control the amount, you can see it is too dark in some areas. Maybe I need a new digital pencil setting. I also didn't go for speed here so maybe need to set something like a 30 min timer. Should I continue with anatomy and muscles or move onto hands, feet,face?

>>7004780
If you want to make digital art buy a tablet, if not don't

>>7004714
Can someone please explain to me how this is possible?

>>7004831
I was thinking maybe there were some practical reasons for begginners to not go for digital right away (like maybe digital teaches bad habits or something, while pen and paper is more straightforward for learning the basics).

Going by your response it seems it doesn't really matter, so I guess I'll just go straight to digital. Thx.

>>7004780
doesn't really make much difference. biggest downside to starting digital is you might develop a bad habit of using undo too much and have shit line confidence as a result. trad, to some degree, forces you to accept mistakes and move on rather than redraw the same line 47 times until every pixel is exactly where you want it.

>>7004780
just research equipment so you don't get something that ends up making you hate drawing, like a pen tablet that's too small or one that won't map to your monitor resolution, or a pen tablet in general (half joking, some people prefer pen tablets but for some the disconnect between what your hand is doing and where your eye is looking is too much when you're just starting out)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpAJOOKaQUM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kw7fKQik3YY

back to portraits :)

>>7004842
Well if it's just that than digital seems pretty fine, and it's not like I can't just go to pen and paper if I ever want to use it. Thx for the info.

>>7004849
I've only ever used a kindle or my phone to do any fooling around with digital art on a screened device. Compared to my screenless, it was awful. I'm sure you have more surface area on the big screened drawing tablets to keep from your hand constantly being in the way, but little things like that are irritating. There was also the matter of wanting to accidentally rest my hand on the tablet and making accidental marks all over everything. The screenless is a pain because of the connection port soldering being crap, and it took a minute to get used to, but I like it more. I've got hotkeys that I refuse to set up, and that pen has buttons I've turned off (and shit a collective business plaza every time I accidentally click them). Screenless has been nice though.

>>7004862
palm rejection on devices that were designed for drawing is obviously gonna be a lot better than on a kindle or phone, you stop worrying about it very quickly

>>7004871
I'm cheap, so there’s some degree of forcing myself to get used to shit that would otherwise bother me. It's like when you're working with clay, and end up using bobby pins, paper clips, paint brush handles, and other shit because the clay tool sets aren't in the cards for expenses and you just want to make something.

Would you believe me if I said I was doing this so I could discover and apply and refine my style. This is exhausting yet invigorating.

>>7004841
>bad habits
Worst bad habit you can learn is believing in bad habits

reposting here since this is a slightly faster general but which one looks better?

im not beg anymore, right?

>>7004927
What is this shit, anon?

>>7004937
it's a hair stripe brush kek

>>7004942

>>7004714
Oh so this is pawell?! Why do you guys make fun of this guy when he is already decent? Better than anything I've submitted here anyways

>>7004965
please point out all the correct things in the image

>>7004965
>Better than anything I've submitted here anyways
that doesn't matter if you are permabeg like him

>>7004970
>>7004975
You guys kept saying how pawell only focused on the fundamentals instead of drawing. Well look, he actually does draw figures and even better, they are all from imagination rather than a reference! Methinks this general just needs to pick on somebody. mock my artwork instead (hint: it has 0 (You)s).

>>7004988
do not dodge the task you were given

>>7004988
>just draw

>>7004909
These are excellent studies. I can sense the heart in this work. Thank you for posting.

>>7004937
ignore it. blame ze brush

>>7004479
This is very cute, great job!

help

>>7005002
Thank you, means a lot

>>7004479
Nmgi for one reason: You already made it. Good job!

what's prettier/cuter?

full crayon or solid color with crayon shading?

>>7004468
thats my pic in the op >:)
wip of my next landscape. id rather be drawing people though so im gonna save this for later

>>7005102
better finish it while at it, dont trust yourself to return to it. its a based picture s okeep working

>>7004927
>>7004937
>>7004942
OH NO NO NOOO AAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAH

>>7004850
gigabased

Do you think doing this helps?

>>7005147
I think so. Good job.

>>7005147
looks really good! do you do gesture underneath or just straight to construction?

>>7005147
it helps a lot, especially with figuring out how to angle/foreshorten limbs so they don't end up flat looking.

>>7005019
made from this

>>7005147
Those are cool, really good energy in the poses. Forms like that help tremendously.

>>7005019
get "drawing on the right side of your brain," it helped me for observational drawing. Also get a graphite stick and lay down some base tone like grey and erase for highlights

>>7005136
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDpn9fdsRbY&t=544s

the mangaka who draws innocent does something similar

no time for good art

>>7005225
>>7001943
Worked more on this. Still problems. Need to redraw those shoulders and align the eyes but have other panels to line

>>7004468
I'VE NEVER DRAWN ANYTHING ELSE THAN SCRIBBLES. GIVE ME A FUCKING BOOK TO ATLEAST CONSISTENTLY DRAW GEOMETRIC SHAPES WITHOUT THE HELP OF A RULER.
please.

Grand Magistrate and Chief Practitioner of the Celestial College of Calamitous Phenomena - and powerful gamer - Larry Gumshoe.

>>7004692
Lovely
>>7004714
I think you need to keep doing stuff like this, but use reference. I’m glad you’re doing stuff besides just studies, it’s important.
>>7004721
Yep, looks good. I think we should see more of the underside of her chin though
>>7004764
Have you read Betty Edwards’s book? If not, I recommend it
>>7004775
Like I said, try bringing this closer to a finish. Then you’ll be able to get better feedback. Her far arm looks a bit short/small. The gesture overall looks okay, I guess. It’s like asking for feedback on a house when you only have the foundation laid. There’s no house to critique.
>>7004780
Stick to trad until you can do stuff from observation accurately
>>7004786
Betty Edwards will help you. At the very beginning you have to learn how to see. Drawing what you see and not what you think you see is step zero.
>>7004850
Breddy gud
>>7004857
I hope this was on purpose
>>7004902
UUOH
>>7004909
That’s what I’m doing. Learn anatomy so I know what I’m stylizing when I draw from artists I wanna emulate. Damn good studies
>>7004926
I like left better visually, but right might be more easily readable. Might be better comparing them on their own rather than side by side. Either way, very fucking cool
>>7004927
Can you draw hands and feet?
>>7004958
Can’t tell what this is, but it looks neat
>>7005090
Left. Solid color with crayon shading. The texture contrast between the solid and the crayon creates interest and is better than all crayon
>>7005100
>>7005101
You’re the same guy, right? I like your furry girls
>>7005102
Congrats, anon. Looking good
>>7005147
Yes. It does. Look at Tin Brian Nguyen
>>7005167
>>7005177
These faces are much less charming than your usual whimsical style imo
>>7005190
Cool perspective!
>>7005228
Looks like sideways goat pupils
>>7005225
Wish my “not good art” looked like this lol
>>7005241
This is awesome
>>7005240
Betty Edwards’s book, then either DrawABox or proko’s or Eviston’s beg course

>>7005243
Since I'm doing studies similar to yours, how long did this page take?

>>7005198
and it's not a very good manga, it could always be worse though.

>>7005243
It was, I used a pencil brush and tried to crosshatch the entire thing to focus more on developing the planes - the consistent criticism I always get on my still life / portraits are that they lack hard edges

>>7005243
you mean we can post BIG ASS canvases now??

we gotta draw more raita

>>7005253
I don’t remember. Like 4 hours all together maybe? I did the top half and then I spent the rest of that day’s drawing time abe all of yesterday’s drawing time and most of today’s on pic related and on a different drawing. I’m trying to do more non-study stuff so that I
1. Don’t get burned out and quit for two years again
2. Actually put stuff to use and incorporate what I’m learning into doing actual drawings
3. Try to have fun with my pencil and just draw
Doing copies of Morpho and Hampton was a lot easier and faster because their drawings are far less cryptic and much easier to read than Bridgman, and I wasn’t doing a memory drawing of each one. The memory ones make it way harder. I was much more selective with the memory and imagination drawings while doing Hampton and Morpho, only redrawing plates that I felt held key ideas. (Like the forearm muscles from Morpho Simplified Forms.)
If I weren’t doing the Bridgman memory pass meme, this would go a lot faster. It also goes faster as you get practice doing the studies. So… basically what I’m saying is there isn’t a specific “right” amount of time to do a copy, if that’s what you’re wondering.
>>7005282
The bottom right figure is one of the cutest things I’ve ever seen
>>7005273
I’m pretty sure the bottom two panels are actual cgi

>>7005240
>I'VE NEVER DRAWN ANYTHING ELSE THAN SCRIBBLES
what up nigga

>>7005295
Yep, he gave her something she couldn't take off.

anyway we're gonna draw more VELVET CROWE no relations to Russell Crowe; The Pope's Exorcist
.....no relations to Horseradish either

>>7005295
Don't hide the arm anon come on...

>>7004965
Until you know he's been at that skill for for decades even after eating countless drawing books
its the eternal beg.

>>7005304
stop posting these shitty doodles
You aren't even trying.

>>7005312
AND WHO IS YOU MY NIGGA??? MY DAD??????

>>7005312
shut up, you aren't me

>>7005315
neither are you bitch

>>7005312
Can't you SEE we gotta draw VELVET CROWE no relations to Russell Crowe? Like in the doors song HAVE YOU SEEEEEEEEEEEN the accident outside??? 7 people took a ride.
Six bachelors
and their bride
seven people took a ride.

>>7005295
>french
>elf ears

What do you think about T shirts like picrel, getting T shirts printed with artwork you like by other artists? (to be worn by a man)

I think they look based. Maybe a little tacky to walk around with paintings on your t shirts considering you're an artist. But then again, half of us are autistsic and the other half is schizophrenic so it would really be the least issue.

>>7005324
Is that a real human or some cg movie shit?

>>7005330
My gf have one so they're fine

>>7005330
>Opinions on graphic t-shirts designed by people you actually know the name of?
Depends entirely on the design. Could be cool might not be idk man.

>>7005331
he's just built different

I'm gonna draw more Nikke as well

>>7005336
>>7005323
>>7005304
Wow guys this meme is so funny XD lol

>>7005333
>>7005334
What do you think about the ones in the picture I (>>7005330) posted? Obviously, consider the third one without the cheesy text on it.

>>7004927
If you want to use a hair brush you should use it for the sketch and draw over it manually so it looks better.

>>7004589

that face is... unappealing.

>>7005340
I am the one who used quotes
I see the appeal, they're nice paintings. I would never wear it, I would not like seeing it on someone else. Probably just because they're so horrifically popular and easy to make, idk it just feels jarring to me. Pretentious isn't the right word but it is what immediately comes to mind. Maybe that's just me, seeing it in a photograph, maybe in real life if i saw it i would think "Oh, cool" and nothing else.

>>7005339
And I've got such a long way to go.
To make it to the Border of Mexico.
So I'll draw, like the wind.
Draw like the wind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omJVYvNdnu8

>>7004850

You have your darkest dark but there's no lightest light.

>>7005331

you must be white. only whitey are this ignorant.

>>7005330
pretentious and gay

I WAS BORN THE SON, OF A DRAWLESS MAN.
always spoke my mind with a pen my hand.
Lived nine lives, penned down ten.
Gonna draw like the wind

Okay, so I got
How to Draw Comics the Marvel Way
And Fun With a Pencil
Now I’ve bought Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain
Keys to Drawing
Bridgman’s Complete Guide to Drawing From Life
Drawing the Heads and Hands
And Figure Drawing

Also I tried to follow what was said in a Proko video about gesture drawing and actually try it. But, I don’t think I’m doing it right.

Anyway, what order should I go through the books? And is using a posable figurine a good way to practice gestures?

>>7005364
make sure to draw lots of nikke ass

>>7004490
Here's two redlines, one more faithful to your drawing and one a little more radical. Most of the issues were just posing and perspective. Push your perspective and try to find better movement and silhouettes for your poses. Your anatomy is pretty good and I think for you it's just a matter of drawing more and training your eye to improve in that regard.

Also if character art is what you enjoy then don't worry about backgrounds right now.

trying to into hands

>>7005280

Where do you guys go for portrait references with varied angles? It would be a nonissue to compile my own set but I was wondering if there's one already out there. Faceresearch in the sticky seems to be down.

ready for school

>>7004626
Legs look a bit short and the feet are off of perspective 0w0

>>7005426
why dont you learn to draw properly instead of making annoying shitty scribbles. Go to /i/ if you want to waste your time

>>7005438
>why dont you learn to draw properly
there's a proper way?

>>7005438
Best way to encourage a schizo is by acknowledging them

>>7005407
ready for my dick

this is turning out better than last time, certainly worth it to make several attempts

so uh, what the fuck is this thing of dumbfucks typing without caps? i mean its impossible that its always the same fucking guy, it would be psychiatric ward patient stuff

How do you draw the curves on this by using 'Perspective'? Cups have all these tricky curves. I could draw this by pure observation, but are there any other tips?

yep
about caps, i dont respect the english language therefore i refuse to use it properly
i also dont typically use ' unless its to make a contextual distinction such as when using well / we'll

>>7005243
that's bridgeman, right? does doing the "copy every drawing" thing actually work? like you're internalizing it by just copying, no notes or w/e?

Where can I find free nude references that aren't porn?

>>7005519
your local public swimming pool changing rooms

>>7005519
ic torrent

>>7004710
What does the robot thing have to do with you not understanding the structures of the external oblique, hipbone indent and buttocks are all separate?

>>7005295
Aня Бaшилoвa my beloved

>>7005306
nta but wouldn't that fuck with the silhouette

>>7005553
Anon, what are you doing here?

>>7005558
bitch spread your cheeks

>>7005479
>>7005509
>>7005572
i appreciate an anon actually drawing but you dont need to post an update every 5 brush strokes

>>7005185
>>7005019
It wasn't a good attempt on my part, so I don't know how useful this is, but in general, since this portrait is framed so closely, its easy to use its boarders and negative spaces to provide relative measurement of each features, paid attention to the top of the head relative to the top boarders, his cheeks to the left boarders, and the relative length of the lower left hand corner between that and the bottom tangent of the figure. After you get a good sense of where those edges were, you can start blocking out the figures, measure from the large shape to small shapes, keep in mind what each landmark is suppose to have its relative measurement with each other and seek it from your references, and then analyze the larger shaded areas and move from outside shape in. Although I must note that I am not as organized as some other artist so I tend to jump between area of interest one after another, but its good idea to get a general overall shading before shading in the details.

Also the reason I switch from a mechanical pencil to a regular one is because it is easier to take advantage of blunt area of the regular pencil to lay down large area of lighter shapes. The pencil itself is a regular number 2 or HB pencil.

>>7005608
delvered

>>7005601
its amusing that you would assume i care even the slightest

>>7005243
>Betty Edwards will help you
Anon, I... I already did Betty Edwards in September, see?! FML, this is demoralizing to hear. I was trying to do analytical drawing in the figure picture rather than observational. If I wanted to, I could have just outlined the contours and be done with it but I wanted to start with the gesture and construction process instead. I'll be more measured in my next figure study and focus on proportion I suppose...

>>7005618
why would you come here if you didn’t care? that’s a ngmi attitude.

>>7005634
to post images which i did you fool

I'm the eternal studier I never draw for myself it's over

Reply to me you big bad meanies or else I will quit drawing and blame you! REE!
>>7005507
>>7005507
>>7005507

>>7005507

>>7005667

>>7005669

>>7005667
>>7005669
>>7005670

i think i used too much contrast in some places despite trying to avoid it
oh well, next time will be better

>>7005650
Then take it to /i/. This is /ic/, which is for people seeking to improve. While you certainly need to improve, you’re clearly not seeking it. We have enough permabegs here.

ill finish it later

>>7005693
taking my big long cock to your mom you dumb faggot

>>7005693
Half of which belong to /i/ as they seem only interested in flooding /ic/ with poorly drawn anime girls on white backgrounds.

>>7005387
I think your values are really nice, but you need to work on the construction. Hopefully seeing all the shapes in pic related helps you see where it looks off. Namely the thumb and index finger.

project 2, I have to improve the lighting on my setup, also I need to understand how to balance my values better so my highlights can really pop as IRL.

>>7005553
This is really good

This place is rancid, I'm sorry to all the well meaning anons trying to help.

>>7005519
quickposes.com or lineofaction.com

>>7005670
>filename have sauce
gmi

>>7005776
These are beautiful, thank you for sharing these studies. Good usage of landmarks and simplified forms.

progress
>>7005136
youd normally be right but this is a mandatory assignment lol

>>7004927
Becaue you scribbled around with a hair brush that somebody else made? Nah.

Question, how can i draw cool/badass female faces without making them look manly?
This was my first attempt.

>>7005438
Anon having fun, the biggest enemy of the common crab.

>>7005837
he's having too much fun

>>7005708
Jesus fucking christ is girl on white background the thing of 2024 already? Lately I can't read ten fucking posts without seeing someone mention that
Are we actually trying to pretend that the majority of artists give a fuck about landscapes and don't actually want to draw mainly cool guy/dream gf/animal they like/ cartoon? Get real you pretentious fucks come on

>>7005848
It's one of the hot new /ic/ memes

>>7005834
not bad, definitely femenine. Its all in the stare desu. Making it an intense stare can make a character look cool. Mess with the pupil size and eyebrows for different results

I tried to be more careful with proportions this time, but I still used the same Hampton process. Please don't send me back to square 1, artist-sama...

>>7005860
Go back killing your father Ryo

>>7005887
>all these lines and "anatomy" markings
>meanwhile the entire thing is off and the guy cant even measure white space on the left arm

constructoids lol, lmao even

>>7005907
pyw faggot

>>7005907
I knew the arms were not 1:1. The red was gesture and construction, and the green were the muscles. I feel like the muscle layer really helps to understand where shading goes, don't you?

>>7005912
I don't need your permacrabbed critique on my works thanks

unlucky you got crabbed as many do by this board

heres a hint that you won't take
ALL "recommended" books that were scanned from prehistoric times are intentional crab traps
and since your copying a character with japanese text, heres an extra that should be obvious to you

NONE OF THE JAPANESE GOD ARTISTS CAN READ YOUR ENGLISH BOOKS

>>7005799
Thanks, anon. I probably should try to use morpho methods a bit more, but I'm currently looking forward to trying either Huston or Hampton (probably Huston first) to cover some white spots (hip area, elbow, and general esthetic).

>>7005364

>Keys to Drawing.
>Peter Han Dynamic Bible
>Steve Hudson

>>7005918
anon you dont need shading yet..
if you're doing it just for fun do whatever


>neck muscles
>direction of shoulders
>upper leg start
>literally both arms, the point I pointed out, and the other is even more obvious because the character overlaps
>head size (poofiness of hair as well)
>wtf are the eyes

theres more but thats enough, stop using the crab books or just ignore my post and get circlejerked by the board

>>7005848
There is no pretense here. It's the fact that the majority of such posts are clearly spam/low effort coom bait that don't really seek critique. It doesn't belong here. This isn't the thread to just spam your shitty 5 second drawings.

>>7005919
Yeah, it's an /asg/ tard
Begone permabeg shitter

>>7005931
I don't think construction could ever net you a 1:1 pose from reference. This is an analytical approach to drawing rather than observational

>>7004479
Cute
>>7004714
I kneel
>>7004926
Left

>>7005225
I like this one

>>7005553

Qt girl, which brush do you use for the lighting?

I want to draw but have no motivation to do so. Weird thing is, when my power went out due to a blizzard, I immediatly started drawing on paper because I had nothing else to do.

The internet is literally slurping away my ability to be productive. I tried apps that block my access, but I end up not using them obviously.

Is it over?

>>7005989
shut up bitch

>>7005991
no

>>7005696
19 inches wouldn't make that doodle worthy of multiple steps

>>7006015
your mother begs to differ

>>7005633
Oh, that looks great. Yeah, your observation is good enough that you don’t need to really worry about training that specifically before moving on. You have enough of a foundation here to move on.
>>7005887
Yep, way Way WAY better! Good job! Just keep practicing proportion and you’ll be all set. You should watch Hampton’s YouTube videos where he demonstrates how he goes through his drawing process. You’ll see that he doesn’t measure, and he exaggerates and “fixes” the gesture of the pose, but he also occasionally makes note of stuff like “okay the hips tilt like that and the edge of this comes to about the edge of the shoulder,” etc.

So it is still an analysis of the pose, just not a copy of the pose. I think the thing that messed you up in the first drawing was that you more or less tried to draw it more from imagination than by analyzing and reverse engineering the figure. You just need more mileage and practice to be able to do that. But good job applying Hampton to this, it came out pretty good.

It doesn’t match the loli proportions because the head size is slightly smaller relative to the body than a child’s would be, but it’s a genuinely good effort. You did improve some aspect of it, for example making her right (our left) leg less anemic. Great job of the forearm muscles, too.
>>7005907
Accurate observation is an important foundational first step, but you have to graduate beyond it to git gud.
>>7005919
Yeah, but they can read and recommend the Japanese translations. I’m guessing you haven’t seen that interview with the hentai mangaka that recommends Betty Edwards, Vilppu’s drawing manual, and Figure Drawing For All It’s Worth by Loomis

>>7005997
A little blunt but he's right. Quit talking about drawing and start drawing. The more you spend talking and thinking about doing something the less you actually do it to the point that when you actually do draw, you look for anything else to do out of habit (like go on 4chan / talk about how you have no motivation to draw) because you aren't fully acclimated to sitting down, shutting up, and actually doing it. Whenever you catch yourself drifting away from drawing, reel yourself back in to the task at hand and apply your focus to it. If you want to run a marathon but have never run a mile in your life, then don't be surprised when you start feeling unmotivated and out of breath a quarter of a mile in. Set your expectations low; you'll enjoy the results better that way, feel more motivated to draw, and actually get somewhere. If your expectations are too high, you'll just burn yourself out and feel constantly stressed when you do actually draw, no matter how hard you focus. Also just as a disclaimer, expectations =/= goals. You can set lofty goals, but don't set your expectations up there with them. Part of the satisfaction comes from achieving more than you expected, driving you to go further.

>>7006026
Well, In The Bible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFzIFVJ_Yz4

And like In The BIble
we must draw
booty

do you like my Maetel?

>>7005667
ain't nobody got time for that.

Hey, I'm the 40 years old fuck that ranted for hours the other thread. Seems like that actually crying like a bitch helped me someway, I feel a lot better now. So thanks to the anon that told me off.
I'm not gonna touch the slop though, respectfully fuck you and thanks

>>7006042
Nobody here is old enough to even know that bitch you fucking train autist
I like it tho.

>>7006061
bitch ass nigga

Trying to make a Tasty White Rabbit.

>>7006062
Your mom is a fucking robot fuckface

>>7004468
First time trying anatomy proper. Roast my shit.

>>7006065
Hope it's really tasty because there's not much to eat there.

>>7006095
What anatomy, the fingers?

>>7006099
Just basic torso anatomy and shit.

>>7006095
>anatomy
>she's completely covered in baggy clothes
I feel pranked

>>7006103
Apologies anon, it was framework underneath. Kinda retarded looking back.

>>7006106
No you silly, this is the part where you step up the prank and post her wearing a full plate armour

>>7006107
fuck OFF LUNATIC SODA

>>7006096
>doesnt appreciate slender soft uooahhh
Shame.

>>7006107
The department budget couldn't cover it, sorry. Field units are using cardboard body armor now after seeing Russians use it in Ukraine.

bleeh. bridgeman smoking some crack using all them lines

>>7006125
augh weak ass nigga

>>7006135
I travelled back in time and killed your parents.

>>7005608
based high effort anon. Can you post a picture of your completed work? I'm currently doing the loomis construction method but I will keep what you said in mind to enhance accuracy

>>7006125
GUNDAM

>>7006110
But dude I'm hungry. I only ate 3 fucking eggs today

>>7006175
well, its not a good attempt, while I described my approach to observational drawings, you should still take it with discretions.

>>7006061
thanks anon
I like it too

>>7006202
Focus on eyes and your stuff will pop big time, it's already quite appealing

>>7005960
I really like these and your lines

>>7005102
I'm genuinely looking forward to this
Foggy pond was nice

>>7006202
Love the line work, like anon said just work on eyes next

>>7006042
should I watch this
I like how her eyes came out

>>7006222
Watch it stoned for an incredible experience

>>7006236
now draw her as an mkultra victim

Sup beg, today i bled on canvas a lot. Lots of pain, nothing is good. I am not sure if redlining my own stuff is beneficial, but it sure looks funny. Also thanks for all the (You)s!

>>7006134
nice studies
>>7006095
you cannot claim you are doing anatomy when you end up using anime face, that is like anti anatomy
>>7006065
sabu is pro as usual
>>7005989
you are just another dude with no self control and or no work habits. i recc googling how to get one of these
>>7005834
just put on them eye lashes and or girly haircut. the blackpill is that the diff between men and woman face isnt that big unless you cheat with makeup
>>7005776
hand over your art gains
>>7005553
man those lips HMMMM
>>7005364
1. gesture is for advanced begs who wants to breach into int
2. start with right brain (the easiest book on your list), then do keys to drawing
3. do any perspective book
4. after that feel free to do any of the figure books
>>7005330
the artwork needs to be made for tshirt, if you just slap rectangle picture in middle like that it ALWAYS looks like ass. just look how bad it is. if the artwork is tshirt canvas compatible then it is fashionable and cool
>>7004958
this is so abstract and mishmashed my first impression was: ai went wrong
>>7004786
this is from the loli book, simply do the whole book instead of worrying about what to do next
>>7004718
i will assume you are lunatic soda. 1. because your work are just quick doodles AND it is obvious you dont care about improving. in your mind you are already the best. maybe if you will spend a couple hours on a canvas i will give you (You) with something. until then it is only diet for you

i drew this today, never posted on ic before,
i wish i could just draw like you guys but i can literally only do pixelfart and tracing

Are there any beg or int art competitions?

I crave a challenge that'll help push me to greater heights

I want a rival

>>7006257
>maybe if you will spend a couple hours on a canvas i will give you (You) with something.
i knew this nei wasn't good enough
back to the canvas

>>7006257
does your pen have pressure sensitivity? i feel like raw dogging hard round brush at constant 100% opacity is not conducive to sketching

Why is loomis head so hard :(

>got a (you) from pawell
i'm so gonna make it

must
resist
the urge
to
buy
brush pen

>>7006314
im so fascinated with stationery i wish there was a general for it so i could just watch them talk about their japanese pens n stuff

>>7006329
>>6988038

Another frieren. I looked for a pose in my reference folder and tried to basically add her head and staff in, still struggle with portraying real anatomy with lines, would have been a lot easier to just copy from an anime pose

>>7006422
side on views or directly in front are awkward and tricky to show form, picking 3/4s angles more like how her head is might be easier to convey

>>7006257
Polish your turds. Become the permabeg schizo you were always meant to be.

>>7005243
Why would a bipedal, humanoid being have a tail as in your picture? It offends my sense of form following function. Think of the half dozen purposes of a tail in the animal kingdom - swimming, balance/pivotting, fly-flicking, grasping branches, male display of vigor (peacocks).

>>7006530
good lips lips

Fucking newfags
NEVER
EVER
reply to Marielx

Attempt number two
Measured a lot more this time
...still looks off

It's so over

I will rather not post. I don't want to have that excited feeling of waiting for others to reply to me. Seems like a wrong type of pleasure.

i will post regardless of if i get replies or not because this is my blog and I have no comment section

Fuck it, I will post. These are just bored doodles. I want to do a lot more of these, also partly to waste time like this instead of social media.

>>7006617
Most important ultragiga beginner cheat tip: thank me later for this, I dont have a girlfriend so feel free to imagine how. Here is the tip: Draw everything using straight lines, whenever you can.
See the pic I attached? You make curves into straights. And after that, if you really really need to, then you can make a more curvy line.
if you apply this it will literally make your drawings 2x better.

>>7006650
>>7006651
You did a near perfect work, move on to the next challenge.

>>7006530
Now do this from life.
>>7006314
>>7006329
ehh you shouldnt fall into consumerism, I spent a shitload of money on things I dont need.But I recently in fact bought a brush pen and I really recommend it. Much better for calligraphy than any other pen I have used.

>verification not required.

merciless critique required, i have been trying for 3 hours to make this look good or just decent and i still dont like how it looks

>>7006708
thanks anon
the next challenge is figuring out how her legs would go in this position since my study is cropped off
i think im getting close to something that kinda fits

Did some lineart from the thumbnail, gonna paint the rest of the bg and the tatts tommorrow

>>7006257
you are treating drawing like an rpg, you cant grind out xp and gain a new spell, you have to have conscious effort in improvement.

i think i added the legs in a position where the torso would have to be more upright so I made her a little less hunched. i like this is better

>>7005558
Drawing?

>>7005735
ty fren

>>7005960
Custom brush I made in sai2, you can get the same effect using black soot from clipstudiopaint

>>7006257
ty

>>7006747
the heeled foot raises my pp, kino incoming

you should post in ASG more I like your stuff

>>7006724
tiny head, stiff arms, the arm on the left looks fatter than the arm on the right. scratchy lines. the leg on the left looks like it shrinks too much at the bottom (though i might just be nitpicking). aside from those things you're on the right track :)

>>7006724
Oh neat, based AMPP enjoyer.

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>>7007017
>>7007017

>>7004468
how can i draw tyhe ribacge as a egg shape in this position?

>>7007046
rotate the egg in your mind

I love drawing sexy women.