/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

anchor post, reply to this post if you're posting an OC redline

>>6994263
cuteboy

>>6994263
That's really good! You really nailed the perspective.

Is there anything you would suggest I do to this?

>>6994296
What I would suggest is wwwWhoa mama! Hummina hummina hummina bazooooooooing! *eyes pop out* AROOOOOOOOGA! *jaw drops tongue rolls out* WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF *tongue bursts out of the outh uncontrollably leaking face and everything in reach* WURBLWUBRLBWURblrwurblwurlbrwubrlwburlwbruwrlblwublr|
Nah fr I'll tell you tomorrow I gotta sleep

>>6994263
please

>>6994651
yoroshiku, onegaishimasu

>>6994671
Reply to the anchor fucking faggot

>>6994671
Oh fuck, i forget write in the post something, i draw aliens in the image
But thanks

Please and thank you

>>6994296
>>6994264
Sorry I don't really do clean lineart and don't really know how armpits work, I hope this can help you though
you're missing out on opportunities to define the form, the sweat droplets, the pubic hair and the belly button can (must) all be used to define the form
As a general rule - thicker line = more total mass (relative to the viewer)
Also avoid lines aligning with eachother (like on her right boob in your drawing), always make them overlap and cut through themselves
>>6995054
Sorry I only redline digitalchads

>>6995137
Holy shit, original artist here, that’s nice, although the breasts were supposed to be bigger (E cups at least) but not to worry, it’s a minor detail. Good job though

im trying to study this pic, but some anons have saif that the torso is fucked out but i cant see it.

>>6995916
i know the hands are slightly off

>>6995054
Where is the reference you used?

>>6995916
Her ribcage is like a twig with boobs.

>>6996000
Imagination

>>6994264
>>6995916
I'm not a fan of redlining artists that are better than me
What they mean is that the ribcage is extremely narrow, inhumanly so.
Obviously though this was a conscious decision by the artist. I'm not a fan of that personally and I think it looks grotesque but there's an audience for it

Bump

>>6994264
>>6995054
It’s difficult to know exactly what you were aiming for, but maybe this helps

>>6994263
How do you learn to draw figures in perspective like this? Do you just grind a lot of photo refs with unusual perspective? Do you grind boxes and work your way up in complexity, and it "clicks" after a while? How the hell do you "know" that you've got it right?

>>6998358
did you try figure drawing yet, anon?

>>6998358
If you can draw a blob in perspective then you can draw a body in perspective
t. That redline's author

could someone do these hands for me pls? I had to brute force these shapes but theyre still kinda fucked (also i know his right ones smaller)

>>6996080
Maybe please learn to find some until you get to a point where you don't need redlines anymore.

>>6994264
>>6998774
I think the right one is good, also i dont see how its smaller

>>6998774
I think the right one is good, also i dont see how its smaller

How do you master perspective, redanon?

>>6998977
perspective is easy, figure drawing is hard

just work on figure drawing

>>6998977
-perspective made easy
-do box stacking exercises like pic rel in different point-perspectives
-learn how to make the boxes into organic blobs with vilppu drawing manual
now you got the answer from 2 seperate redline anons

>>6994264
>>6998774
I don't see how the right one is smaller, also I think the right one looks good

Would really appreciate a redline for the figure laying down I feel so stupid right now

>>6999199

>>6999262
They need to be scooted back, deeper into the couch. It looks like they're on the edge. And bring their left leg down, it wouldn't be the same height as the right one.

>>6999262
sumann, na… anmari yokunai da yo

>>6999199
Atama ga ookisugita. Chiisanakerebaiidayo, toomoimasu. Naosara, motto kantan na sen ga hougaii da yo

(Head seems too big proportion wise. Also it’s better to use simpler lines, rather than the loosey goosey curves you have)

>>6999330
New to perspective, why did you change the primary horizontal line so much?

>>6999339
I’m just bad at perspective desu. Use my redline to reference the proportions of the characters more than the perspective

>>6999262
I think you actually mostly nailed the head of the person laying down. The most I changed with him is the clothing folds.the clothing folds wrap around the body, use them to your advantage to portray form.

I think the bigger issue is the person they're laying on. We see their head from below, so we shouldn't be able to see the outline of their jaw, Their head looks very flat. I also advice to use the clavicle and abdominal folds to denote both perspective and form here.

>>6999405
>>6999262

oh, and I forgot to mention, the forearm the dude laying down wouldn't be visible to us from that angle, I made only his hand visible.

>>6999405
>>6999408
And here's a version with the blue perspective guides more visible

>>6998774
Does this help?

>>6999405
>>6999414
Blown away. Thank you so much this is awesome.

>>6999432
No problem man!

>>6998774
>>6999429
I might've changed the hand pose a bit much so here's a nother try at it to make it more exagerated

>>6999405
Really impressed by your skill, do you recommend anything to read or watch because I feel like I really need to understand the use of boxes more.

>>6995054

>>6999438
Do you want to understand the uses of boxes as a perspective guide? In that case, I recommend this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDanHdjPJVs

If you want to use em for construction, I mostly use stonehouses and morphos book for learning anatomy. I improvise the constructions, since you don't need to use one set method to construct the body, just use whatever's convenient.
Most importantly just observe how other artists use them, the books and videos are just supplements to that.

>>6999451
Whats your process for studying Stonehouse? I dont know what else to do besides reading the book, copying the diagrams, and maybe hope it seeps into my art…

>>6999451
Thanks, I hope to get this down. I will look into those two people.

>>6994651
>>6995050

Not sure what kind of aliens you're going for but here you go.

>>6999456
Take this with a grain of salt as everyone learns differently, but I always learned something better when I kept writing it down again and again. A lot might disagree but I recommend memorizing muscle names. This won't help you draw better directly, but it'll really come in handy when reading about anatomy as you know what the hell anatomy books are talking about.

1. Learn the bones and their forms
2. Find out where muscles start and insert and their form. Knowledge of the skeleton is essential here
3. Memorize muscles in terms of pairs of antagonists and agonists (common example is the triceps and biceps). Knowing a muscles function also helps with memorizing this.
4. Draw diagrams to drill all this info into your head, It can be low effort or high effort, just as long as you're actively recalling information. You don't have to do this 24/7, just whenever you feel like it.
5. Experiment. Find out how you can simplify all these muscles. See how others do it and try copying them.

>>6999492
Tried sticking closely to the proportions here. I'm not sure what she's doing, its unclear but is she laying down? I made her pelvis a bit clearer and adding some squash in the waist to to show form. Also made her milkies wrap around her ribcage, they don't just float like ballons.

>>6999506
Wtf???She is inside a water incubator that's why her breasts float

>>6994264
>>6994651

>>6999509
nta but what are you getting mad at? Should have described your shitty drawing if you didn't want people to misinterpret it

>>6999631
get angry? I'm not angry, I don't know why you say that.

>>6999434
ty this is gorgeous. im good on the palm but fingers still trip me up... (those eraser marks are way worse in person lol)

>>6999338
The Head is normal

Need help with the hips and legs please I beg you

>>6999305
nice ass

>>6999338
Russia is the only nation in the world that makes the United States shit its pants in the middle of the night while it sleeps.

>>7000490
A Japanese said that, and many repeat it.

>>7000591
That was not said by a Japanese, it was said by an American, I mean they are aware of that.

help me out please :U

>>7000910
feels like you just need more reps to be honest nothing in particular is wrong with your redraw although the way you drew her face makes her look older

Need help with the pose, I'm still new to anatomy as well, only learnt the neck and shoulders so far

Also the head looks off as well, please and thank you

How the fuck do torsos/arms work? ;_;
Guess I have a lot of Hogarth to copy

I know this pose is retarded but I'm committing to it
Could I get some help with her right leg?

The left leg seems to look a little wonky to me. It's my first time trying to do something with perspective so i kinda just went in blind and hoped for the best xd For more context shes in this straight jacket thing that has her arms behind her back. Thanks!

>>7001687
It seems like you drew the head, torso, and legs all at different perspectives - see pic please.

I would post redlines but 4chan no longer allows the posting of pictures in incognito mode, only text is allowed. Sorry guys we are being censored now.

Bump

>>7002081
I think either lose the shoes or change the pose

>>7002253
Many thanks anon! I meant for her head to be turning towards the viewer, but yours is much better, my perspective is still off as well

Is there an in depth guide for this line perspective? What's it called?
Thank you

>>7002259
why do you have to use incognito

I wanted some critiques, if possible.
Thank you.

I drew this giant rotund woman could I get a redline or recommendation please

>>7002934
It's just single-point perspective, but the vanishing point is far off-screen to the left somewhere.

>>7000399
I mean...I think you're on the right track? What do you think is off about it? Maybe you could finish drawing the limbs and post the result?

>>7002259
Time to cough up that money and buy your 4chan PREMIUM subscription!

>>7003312
Navel piercings are disgusting and you should feel bad!

>>6998312
>>6999451
The main things I get from these is that the thumb is too short and the torso too thin. Thanks for taking the time to help
>>6998903
You are right, I'm trying to force myself to use references more often

>>7003245
Hands are way too small and the one on the left looks awkward.
The arm on the right is way too small.
The entire head is anime symbol drawn without understanding the shape of the head or it's features.

Basically every feature is wonky/uneven on one side. Since you're doing this digitally, every now and then flip the image horizontally and reassess what you've drawn.

I will say you have very nice line art though.

>>6994263
Help.
I can't figure out a proper bent over pose

>>7004117
On a side note: these 3 poses are fine, right?

drawing aigis from persona, anime style is hard.

Any crits?

>>7003842
Thank you!

>>7004129
are they supposed to be floating in the air?

>>7000910
honestly, my advice is to not draw from photos of real life. You should be doing master copies instead. even if you want to draw realistically, copy from realistic artists like the old masters. master copies will give you a design sense that you can then take back to life drawing.

>>6999475
>>6999523
thanks

>>7004872
I think you should do both but only copy people who's styles you want to emulate, you are the combination of the work you've put in up till now. Realism is actually great for learning fundamentals of how things ACTUALLY are and prevent you from making dumb incestuous mistakes

>>7004133
looks good, eyes are a bit dead though but try to draw 1 or 2 lines instead of a whole bunch of sketchy ones

>>7005267
i agree. life drawing is important, but you can get lost if you don't also study from the artists who came before you. The synthesis of both leads to the development of art in general

>>7004774
Yeah.
I traced this and wanted to turn them into females. It turned out to be harder than I expected.

I want them to become sexy and I am struggling hard with that.

>>7004872
thank you very much, anon!
Are there any masters you found particularly good to learn from?

Correct this

>>7005369
>I traced this and wanted to turn them into females
they arleady look female desu

>>7005625
Don't take me too seriously but
>Anime proportions
>Realistic face
weird choice.

>>7005640
Is a experiment, but, looks bad or what??

>>7005649
In my opinion it looks a bit uncanny.
Perhaps because its not rendered and its just a line work draft.

>>7005373
study from artists you love, first and foremost.

if you have no preferences, study from the Taco anatomy books, Bridgman, or Morpho.

>>7005625
body bneeds more curves, the other foot can be that close and almost at the same angle as the other it should slightly tilted to the other leg angle, and that nape is too high

curious about this one. drew it back in 2018

>>7005791
curious to see how (you) yourself would fix it now, given that 5 years have passed since then

Should I tweak the left eye and lower it? Any redlines would be appreciated, I know her left arm is long but I feel like it's as important as the face

>>7006089
*Not as important

>>7006089
Hmmm right ear looks funny but it kind of works, move the left arm out more, her pupils are misaligned, and get gud at rendering, in fact find an artist that renders well and copy what they do. I might redline it later

>>7005791
I'm so confused by the action flow. His stance suggests that he's winding up for a slash, but the blood and blue background is making it seems like he's already struck the victim and is following through. If that's indeed what you're depicting, then it just feels weird to me because I've never seen anyone swing a sword in that manner before.

>>7005791
>>7006559
Here, I drew a picture to show what I mean. This is what the strike would have looked like at the moment of impact.

>>6994263

>>7005744
But?

>>7008890
>>7010142
Gantz covers inspo? Not bad.

>>7010147
It wasn't my intention, I like Gantz, but I try to make a European type design

>>7000910
I don't know if this helps but do you know what the line of action is? It helps me when I try to copy a photo. Basically, you try to find the 'spine' and look in what direction it's going after that you put the torso and the hips on it and go on from there. It really helps to give the drawing a strong foundation

For a /tg/ drawthread. I've bitten off more than I can chew with the extreme body type.

I can't figure out how the folds on her baggy pants should look at this angle and position, or even if I have a readable form down.

Any critique? I feel like the hand and face structure is awkward and weak.
Bonus points if you know this dude.
First time doing male half-body.

>>7013839
a bit more detailed version.

>>7013947
>>7013947
Whoops.

>>7013948
looks like you fixed the face on the second one, I like it. I'd maybe shorten the forearm and fix the shape of the back of the hand. Otherwise it's good.

I need help with the bicycles perspective etc

>>7014847
That png of a bicycle with a filter is not the issue

>>7014802
Oh that already looks much better.
Thanks for the pointers, anon.
feels like im making stuff either too long, or too close.

I'm trying to figure it out

>>7014847
>>7014882
She seems way too huge for the bike. I'd do something like the bottom image. Shrink her down, change perspective of the bike. Have her hold the bike, give her a story.

Lmao this is /beg/ helping /beg/

>>7014906
ty anon i'll work on this

>>7014918
Earlier in the thread there was someone who was actually helpful

>>7014906
I tried to impliment it as much as I could

>>7010972
Wow anon. This looks amazing!
Thank you so much.

Did I break this man’s back? I tried to make him sit up on his elbows like he’s attempting to get up.

>>7015850
His back isn't broken. The pose could be improved but I don't think my skill is greater than yours.

>>7004129
Whoohooo
Time to add hair

I'm trying to pull this image out of my brain, but I'm definitely out of my league here.
There's a lot wrong with it, but my main beef is the right arm that I struggle to properly foreshorten.

Could someone help me out with this pose?

this has been sitting in my rough drafts for weeks now, it looks fine at one glance but then looks off the next second and idk why, keep in mind he's supposed to be wearing somewhat bulky superhero gear or whatever.

>>7019595
Really quick here, mostly outline.
>superhero gear
If you are referencing someone with no clothes and you are putting clothes on them, you have to account for how the gear will change the shapes.
So yeah, you gotta change the shape language.

>>7019637
this is great, thank you

>>7017033
there’s definitely more ways to play with this

>>7019939
Alternative

>>7019940
Haha i forgot to move the leg up a bit but you get my drift

>>6994264
>>7017033
>>7019939
>>7019940
Anchor

>>6994264
>>7000399

Same

>>7019999
Alternatively

>>7019939
Thanks, man.
I'm really puzzled by how to properly depict the foreshortened thigh at this angle

bump

>Asking /ic/ for advice

Good bait.

Captcha: M4AN

Fucking thread, they never respond, it's no good for shit

>>7017033
>>7004129
Coloring time

>>6994263
bumping

>>7022850
I hate you dumb fuck beginners why would i help you?

Any help with foreshortening would be very much appreciated.

>>7025382
Wtf???aliencoomer???

>>7022955
Go to Permabeg

>>7025484
crab

Its just something wrong... with legs especially. She should have stuck her butt out a little, but now it looks weird. Help, please!

>>7025487
permabeg go to your thread and dont cry

>>7025531
the ass wont show up unless shes fully tilted doggy style, so you can show her ass trhough the jacket, also the angle on the face is off and the features in it too.

>>7025626
pyw

>>7025688
not that anon, but you don't need to be a pro to notice that theres tons of erros, fixing them would take lots of work, it would be easier just to star all over, but that would sound too crabby maybe thats the reason why nobody said anything.
my ''work''>>7025664

>>7025707
Mate, guy's crabbing.
They are always insecure.

Also, I recognize my level. If only your level can see the problem, then it's cool.
Can't reach the pro level without climbing on trash

>>7025664
Thank you very much, anon... I'll try to correct this.

sketched this out today I wanted to make it so her look really curvy but I'm struggling with drawing her stockings in a way that indicates their tightness by squeezing her thighs any help with drawing indents correctly?.

>>7026812
Arms and hands are too big, bro.

>>7001767
Your anatomy is fine. Focus on good shape now. copy yusuke murata

>>7002151
I definitely lost the mood that you had in your original drawing, but maybe the proportions i have here can help somehow

>>7003245
Do lots of studies and focus on proportion. Proportion isn’t just a 8 head figure, but the relationship between different parts and their positions in space

>>7003312
I personally think you should never lose the hour glass shape of a woman’s torso when drawing them, no matter what angle, but whatever floats your boat. Some people are just into different things

>>7004133
It’s a messy redline, but hopefully you get the general idea of where your proportions are off. If you have the chance, I suggest you study glenn vilppu, to learn to draw really solid form.

i will do more redlines after dinner, or tomorrow. thank you everyone for waiting so patiently ;_;

>>7027025
It was drawing the twists in the wrists and elbow joints based on hand rotation that got me fucked up recently.
Just wondering, is there a reason you specifically recommend Murata? I never actually heard the name before (though the manga looks familiar).

>>7027097
oh, murata draws muscular men beautifully, is all. I like his work, but if you have someone else in mind, by all means, copy them! The point is to learn shape design. Knowing what the muscles are is one thing, but giving them good shape is something else.

>>6994263
I'm not sure about the foot and the size of the left leg

>>7027185
Maybe the foot needs to be a little more tucked in? Overall looks great btw. Here's a reference https://www.female-anatomy-for-artist.com/photos/show/id/kneeling-reference-serina-gomez-08

>>7027250
That's a very useful ref
Thanks

>>7004117
>>7004129
this was freaking hard. the original painter probably spend 2-3 weeks just sketching, hiring models, doing his research, just to pull off the preliminary drawing for this painting.

For your study, I really think you need to dig back into the basics and start reviewing your figure construction. Get Michael Hampton, Bridgman, Taco anatomy, whatever, and apply that to figure drawing from life and from masters.

>>7026812
skin dips

>>7027847
Had you posted this weeks earlier, I would have taken it
But alas, I am almost done.
I'll just put it on my study folder for the future

>>7027185

>>7029127
your pictures are too stylized. therefore it is unclear if the small "mistakes" you make are intentional or not.

>>7029103
Based

>>7029133
Any fixes or changes you would make based on your own preferences of what looks nicer would be valuable feedback

>>7029127

>>6994263
should be easy enough, but can somebody redline this?
whenever i draw figures just standing up, they come up like this stickman (proportions/weight etc) and i'd like help to pinpoint the exact errors

>>7029240
this is good, but the shoulders arent at the same level

>>7029253
some more detail if preferrable

>>7029127

>>7025382
Nothing wrong with your drawing as is, but if you wanted more foreshortening, maybe this helps

>>7029240
>>7029320

Thank you both