/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

behold my mustardpiece

Haven't posted recently because holidays. Today some gestures and imagination. Still working through Hampton. Also trying to find a satisfying color for the background. Happy new years /begs/ and good luck in 2024.

>>6997688
Remember:
before criticising any of my work I post, I will require this information about you
1. your full name - name and surname
2. the address of your current residence
3. the address of your workplace
4. your marital status and the name of your spouse, if any
5. your annual wage, before and after tax
6. your license plate
7. your place of birth
8. the names of your parents
9. your credit card number and the expiration date
and finally you MUST post your work.
If but one of these points is not met, or, if I am unable to find a Wikipedia page about you, that matches the information you have given, that lists you as a prominent artist in any artistic field, all your critique directed towards me or my work is invalid and actually the opposite of what you say is true and my work is perfect and devoid of any mistakes.
Also, when you do criticise my work, you can not use any word included in the following list because your post will automatically get filtered by my automatic filtering system. You must treat me like a toddler when you criticise my work or I will cry.
https://rentry.org/za5t5

Let's keep it nice and civil in here, folks.

>>6997688
Remember that if you want to draw anime girls, you do NOT need to study old, fat, bald men.

Hope it's okay to repost, thread died in my arms.
>>6996506
As promised, I redrew it, this time with bigger hard brushes and tried some blending. This is my second attempt at drawing values and blending them digitally. It was actually a lot of fun. I like the result and the only thing that I strongly dislike is how lashes and shade on the left is blending together into one monolith color. But I only noticed it at the very end and honestly got tired for today and I am leaving this mistake. Maybe the choice of values is lacking, but I don't see it. So please shit on it so I could see my mistakes.

>>6997702
> Tag: Ugly Bastard

>>6997688
test

>>6997688
So I’m doing Marshall Vandruff’s perspective projects and sketching environments is one. This is a very rough sketch, but I’d like some advice on how to somewhat plan perspective in images such as these (I’ll respond with ref) for accuracy’s sake

>>6997713

>>6997715

>>6997707
eyelids need to be thicker
there is a plane change from the top of the orbit to the frontal bone
you are going into too many details. start with the basic light and shadow areas. Then midtones. Then highlights, bound light etc etc. I think proko has a few good videos on the process, watch those

>>6997713
>>6997719
first establish your horizon line and vanishing point(s). (Where are all the parallel lines converging in that picture). Remember, any top plane you can see is below the horizon, any you can't is above it.

>>6997693
Finally, a good post in this bolivian indigenous blanket weaving forum

>>6997721
Thanks, I see the mistakes now. I'll give the vids a watch

>>6997735
Thanks,it's a great feeling being recognized for my exceptional drawing ability

I won’t be drawing for this thread, either. Happy new year!

finished sketchbook page from last night

>>6997799
No need to brag about your ability Mr./adv/ Sir

I can't believe my drawing of misplaced balls made it into the header I feel so exposed

these are some pieces i check from last thread

1. the bg color is too dark, the face has a bad structure and there is no construction, for example if you take in consideration the eye placement the nose dosnt make sense, same for ear position, the shadow "lines" arent organic and seem like you put them at last just to feel the drawing.
Use construction a bit more, focuse on learning to measure features more than anything. hair didnt make sense to me so i change it a bit, i went for a total different style because if i stylize too much you would not be able to see the faults.

The second is not wrong, but you need to remove the idea that the shadows are a separate element, you put the soft shadow in a different color too and basically is just symbol drawing.
Try using shado as a guide instead of a separate element, use soft strokes and dont go for solid colors, i think hatching can work better but is a personal opinion

3. terrible anatomy. and is funny because the proportions are not that bad. learn more from real life, there is no problem with the size of the ass you did but an ass dosnt work like that and make no sense how the ass is sticking out of both legs. be less afraid of references.

4. This is a special case, your anatomy and proportions are good but the execution is bad, the lineart is too generic and hard, in top of that there are lines that make no sense at all and ruin the drawing, bellow the left tit, above the belly button, the left line at the belly that separate it from the leg and the fact that there is no hip and the armpit have a chunk of meat between the chest muscle and the armpit that make no sense because the armpit is bellow the chest muscle.
Pay more attention to these details because they ruin the whole appeal of the piece in general and make it look like beg when u actually have better knowledge.

>>6997836
Based advisor anon. Good tips and redlines, thank you

>>6997707
Eh don't spend too much time overthinking about fixing shit, mileage at your stage is way better in other words just draw.

How do I achieve better line control when drawing from the arm? I've been overrelying on wrist movement and pressure to make neat lines.

>>6997895
Wow nice!

>>6997724
Great advice. Thank you

>>6997688
I hate this face but I respect your artistic choice

The slightly low camera angle was pretty hard for me

>>6997916
Last thread someone said about hating the nose, but also the face in general- what's wrong with the face? It was the hardest part to draw for me, I didn't hate the end result but it feels lacking. I simplified it which looks kinda weird against the rest of the image but I couldn't add details without making it look creepy.

>>6997985

I'm gonna use 2024 to see if "just draw" is real, will report my findings monthly.

>>6997994
yeah dude just draw you'll automatically get better, like chris-chan

>>6997985
I was about to fap the moment I saw the tits but then when I saw the dick my dick started deflating faster than your mom.

>>6997883
reps (sadly)

>>6997999
Well doing studies sure isn't helping.

>>6997719
/p/hag here. In the future try to get less empty paved ground. Makes for a more interesting composition. That place is cool though

>>6997994
>>6997999
>>6998010
You don't know what just draw means

>>6998083
And you're not an artist, so idc about your advice.

>>6998088
Then don't give any either cunt

>>6997994
personally I interpret "just draw" as
>draw and don't be scared of getting it wrong
and then
>find errors and correct them

I think too many people are scared of failing so they don't try. Failing is normal, don't be scared of that. Be scared of not trying.

>>6998096
I didn't I just said I'm gonna just draw for 2024, but again non artist detected, opinion rejected.

all I want is one of these pretty sketchbooks girls post on youtube
is it too much to ask? just a sketchbook filled with cool drawings for someone to find after i'm dead

>Listening to lectures by old man Vilppu:
>Feel the form
>Feel the form
>Feel the form
>Take advice to heart and suddenly I'm drawing comically large asses and breasts.
imo it's an artistic dog whistle to make artists horny.

>>6997985
I was about to scroll down the moment I saw the tits but then when I saw the dick my dick started inflating faster than >>6998000
's mom.

Crit? The background I slapped on just so she wouldn't be in a void, I know that part looks bad as hell lol

>>6998102
You're retarded, which is the reason why people have told you to "just draw."

Hey so I want to learn how to draw, but I'm in a bad spot as of right now: I don't know how to go for this and I feel like I may need SOMETHING to get me into tutorial stuff, but I feel like doing YT videos is gonna leave me weird for my first big way of getting the big twitter world. I want my tutorials to be good and outstanding, and a actual big thing to help me, instead of say some random youtuber.

>>6998120
Ait, I'll save this comment and make a thread just for you on January 1st 2025. See you then faggot.

>>6998131
I'll be waiting. Just remember, no guides or methods or courses or books or videos.
Just draw :)

>>6998134
No, my just draw process will be look at how good people draw, copy that, repeat. But yeah I'm not reading their bullshit books, or listening to their bullshit grift courses. Anyways I'm done wasting my time chatting to you I'll see you in 2025 and shit in your mouth.

>>6997693
Inncredibly based "abstract lines" artist, I haven't seen many other's running the same consept

>>6998116
The dinghy looks like it's sitting on top of the water. The hull should be partially submerged.
Hair doesn't look wet despite the fact the character is emerging from the water.
Overall, the composition is too calm, too static.

>>6997688
OP you're choice of image makes you a massive faggot, just wanted to inform you

i have questions for you all:
how do you guys manage to stay consistent between drawings? i struggle with the proportions of my characters with each new drawing, is this related to that measuring in heads thing?
i never learned how to measure on heads

is this making sense so far or is it completely retarded

>>6997688
>or ask for advice.
My problem is this. The paintings I paint take a long time and they're pretty laborious and I end up with a pot boiler at the end of it. They're pretty and enjoyable to contemplate and there is some skill to it. It just takes such a long time though, for something that will end up being the best amateur oil painting in a charity shop. I can paint fast, and quickly, and moderné, but that's 'crap' then isn't it? I just don't get it anymore, at all. Do I persevere or wait for genius to be telegraphed from the Gods?

Hi /beg/! I want to fix my linestrokes before I proceed with other studies and practices. I got used to thinner strokes now but my lines are still crooked (esp. vertical lines) whenever I flip the canvas. Is there any way to get better at this or should I just keep flipping and flipping canvases?

skull block in for a longer study

>>6998352
Draw with your arm in multiple directions on paper to build muscle memory. Place 2 dots and connect them together XJK0Tas practice.

Got the entire upcoming week off, gonna get so much drawing done by the end I might even be able to draw 2 cubes to represent the chest and pelvis

really didnt like how this turned out

>Special needs
>ADHD, autism, learning disability
>Have so many ideas for art but my ADHD and executive dysfunction prevents me from actually doing anything or even putting in a modicum of work
>Can't understand basic trigonometry or math
>Have never been able to commit myself to any serious hobby, dabbler at best.
>Want to now get good at drawing after years and years of wanting to
>Can't even pick up the pencil

Am I legitimately too retarded to be an artist? Every time I think about the fact that I can't do art, it makes me almost suicidally depressed and makes me nearly break down crying. I have friends that show me their art everyday and it pisses me off to the point where I want to fucking block them or tell them off. I can't do this anymore.

Go draw a stick figure. If you can’t then I think art isn’t for you.

>>6998396
>>6998405

Is the Proko Drawing Basics Course worth checking out if it's not even finished yet? Do I just do all I can for that and move onto the figure drawing one?

Attempted some anatomy w/o reference for the first time in a while

>>6998410
Yeah. From what I've seen it's pretty good, wish I had that when starting out. Probably the first thing I'd recommend beginners go through.

trying to get better at rendering

>>6998396
goo goo ga ga

attempt in reducing chicken scratches

>>6998419
No one tells you this but if you get a a correctly textured brush you can just keep chicken scratching and no one can tell.

>>6998305
> They're pretty and enjoyable to contemplate and there is some skill to it. It just takes such a long time though, for something that will end up being the best amateur oil painting in a charity shop.

1. speed
From the photo I understand you're using traditional oils? Those always take forever to dry/process - did you try using any mediums that speed this up, or even a hairdryer if you gotta wait for one layer to dry before continuing?
Depending on trad paints/mediums you use, you may be able to shave off some time using shit like hairdryers, heaters, or trying out acrylics (dont cover oil with acryl lol) or guache + thickener mediums
Only other thing would be speed training which sucks even if you're self-disciplined
2. labor
No fix there, it is how it is

3. Charity shop feel
Is your pic how you present them? If you can, look up how artists from 1880s to 1930s? presented their works and rip off their drip.
Finishing/finalizing your physical paintings cost$$ and nice frames are expensive, but you can cheat and make as much as you can at home - raw frames + woodstain + some woodwax (and gold paint for inner edges). Make like 2 - 3 frames to look fancy as fuck and use them to showcase your stuff when making gallery photos.
Go to used shit shops, get some old but cool window drapes (cloth!) and use that for background drops when taking photos of your art. Generally speaking copy how guys did their shit back then, helps both present your art, and your own self feels here.
Creating this will always be time consuming unless you figure out a tech for quick-painting, so you may wanna try to work on presentation.

>>6998396
>adhd
I got that, sucks af, only got a working mix of meds last year, turns out they legit help. If you can and you dont have any - get meds (takes up to a year to find a mix that will work for you though)

Also get a friend to draw with, helps kick-start it till it develops into a habit. Other than that, all you can do is this >>6998405 and "just redraw cool shit you saw online"

Alternatively (if you're still reading) - depending on your autism and such you may want to edit cartoon screenshots and photoshop memes. I'd recommend PaintNet as it works OK without a drawing tablet and you can mod it with photoshop-like plugins for special tools like PS's Liquify tool.

Doesn't sound like drawing, but it will help you understand graphic software and will make your brain OK with working with images which may help you draw later.

Works especially well if you gotta draw over or redraw parts of the images. And if you end up doing porn-edits of cartoons you'll also build a follower base which may help you make friends which may help you make a friend you can draw with later.

trying to do a portrait of the red man

im a bit insecure about the beard, im not used to draw them, so if you see something odd, tell me

>>6998396
Howie schizo, do not fall for his bait.

>>6998428
>>6998430

>>6998436
Eugh

Thank anon, havent been here in ages & missed out on this.

Ohayo /beg/. Today I tried my hands at some quick gestures. I attempted this with what limited knowledge I have to see where I'm at. Oh boy, when I looked at these I felt pretty disappointed. I've found that I can get somewhat decent results with my art when I take my time and am somewhat meticulous, so this definitely shone a light on my shortcomings. Moments like this would demoralize me, but I'm looking to flip my mentality on its head. No more frustrating over the little things, I'm not gonna get things right the first time.
I'll take any and all advice I can get, peace and love.

>>6998410
The free vids helped me out quite a bit

>>6998465
Every time you draw a pose you use your observation skills. Logically, continuing your poses will advance your observation and spatial skills for making forms. I recommend https://line-of-action.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing on the 1 hour class mode daily. (MINIMUM). Mileage and fundamentals will get you very far.

>>6998111
I was about to dick down the moment I saw the scroll but then when I saw the tits my dick started inflating faster than >>6998000
's mom.

Happy new years anons :^)
Here's the sketch for a drawing I'm working on.


>>6997070
Yea I'll slow down and pay attention. I've always had trouble with the shoulder and arms. They make very little sense to me. Thanks for the redline

>>6998419
I've never really stopped chicken scratching, what you should work on is visualizing the stroke of the pen and what you want the line to look like before you make the stroke. Often if you redraw a line on top of itself it signals that you don't know what you want the shape to exactly be.

>>6997693
I love stuff like this. I've been wanting to tie this kind of shapework into my art because I think it really makes the character stand out when beside them

>>6998097
I'm so glad I failed enough to get where I am. I look back at my art from a few years ago and hate it because it looks so terrible, but love it because if I hadn't drawn every single sketch, I wouldn't be half decent now.

Also, I always enjoy your sketches anon, the shapes are very nice.

>>6998116
Did you use a ref? I am sure there are tons of photos of whales jumping.

>>6998433
it looks fine! if i were to nitpick, maybe try adding a little bit more detail near the edge of the beard like you did with the hair

>>6997883
drawabox unironically has a pretty detailed instruction on how to train line control

>>6998394
the nose and mouth are too high. gives him a big chin.

>>6998419
form not felt. draw through the figure not just the outline

>>6998491
Neck too long imo

>>6998498
i'll see what i can do

>>6998509
Can you even draw SHIBUYA RIN?

>>6998405
how about a REAL test of ability?

i don’t think I’ll draw at all next year.

>>6998419
I chicken scratch a lot when I don't know where I want to put the line.. such as today's sketch lol

>>6998410
I regret not picking it up when it was like $60 now that it's actually getting to something useful.

Anon, you do have art plans for 2024, right? It will be the year you escape /beg/, right?

For 2024 I think I will follow the drawing university courses by prof. Marc Leone (NKU), if not that, I will finish Keys to Drawing. feel very overwhelmed by all the different books and youtube videos, just wanna keep shit efficient and simple. During the "fun" drawing time, I will do some expressionist modern art shit.

>>6998605
no i was declared a ngmi permaprebeg so there’s no hope so i gave up.

>>6998428
m on a shitton of adderall and stimulants and still nothing. Even when I felt my absolute best on them, I still couldn't bring myself to do anything. I feel like I'm a locked in person except I can still move around.
I've legitimately never been able to commit myself to any serious hobby and have gotten lazy over the years with my only actual one which is writing and the only reason I'm good at writing is because I wanted people to be able to understand what the fuck I was saying and I wanted to write good stories because I thought I'd never be able to make them in a visual medium, but that's it. I've never been able to commit to a serious routine, schedule, or anything. I just sit in my room online doing basically nothing.
Everything I try doing looks so daunting and impossible. I tried learning Source Filmmaker as a teen and I gave up immediately because it looked too complicated. I tried learning how to make my own games in game maker, gave up immediately and never touched it. Even something like drawing just looks so complex and impossible. This is what it's like for everything I try doing.

>>6998428
I'm on a shitton of adderall and stimulants and still nothing. Even when I felt my absolute best on them, I still couldn't bring myself to do anything. I feel like I'm a locked in person except I can still move around.
I've legitimately never been able to commit myself to any serious hobby and have gotten lazy over the years with my only actual one which is writing and the only reason I'm good at writing is because I wanted people to be able to understand what the fuck I was saying and I wanted to write good stories because I thought I'd never be able to make them in a visual medium, but that's it. I've never been able to commit to a serious routine, schedule, or anything. I just sit in my room online doing basically nothing.
Everything I try doing looks so daunting and impossible. I tried learning Source Filmmaker as a teen and I gave up immediately because it looked too complicated. I tried learning how to make my own games in game maker, gave up immediately and never touched it. Even something like drawing just looks so complex and impossible. This is what it's like for everything I try doing.

>>6998717
>I've legitimately never been able to commit myself to any serious hobby
You seem insanely commited on shitting up /ic/ with your unending drivel for months and months. I'd say the vast majority of anons here commited to drawing many times less then you are to shitposting.

>>6998717
A literal copy and paste reply from one of his other posts, more like dozens of posts at this point
>>>/adv/30470394
Absolutely mental.

>>6998717
>>6998746
What the absolute fuck man. Npcs really do fucking exist, that's creepy as hell

>>6998739
>>6998746
>>6998749
Or maybe I just genuinely need help and it's not some giant conspiracy

>>6998751
Another copy and paste response.
>>>/adv/30477764
Hit us with another classic, Howie.

>>6998605
This is my only goal

>>6998717
>>6998751
You are just lazy. Why do you get mad every time someone tells you the truth? You have free will and actively choose comfort every time over personal development. You are just a lazy little pussy bitch, but I guess you need more drugs. That will fix it for sure.

>>6998751
I don't know but that's fucking horrifying anyway

>>6998756
It's called having ADHD and executive dysfunction. Even for hobbies that I already know I'm decent at, I still can't bring myself to do them and I'm too retarded to learn how to do any of the hobbies I actually want to do.

>>6998557
Ignore the schizos.

>>6998768
>retarded
>lazy
case closed.

>>6998773
So then what do I do? Never do a single hobby or anything for my entire life?

>>6998780
You're not even trying you fucking asshole stop projecting blame onto others.

>>6998781
I literally can't do anything even with medicine.

>>6998768
>>6998780
whatever meme words you throw at it the fact remains: you're actively choosing to not do anything and you have the physical capability to change it if you wanted to.

>>6998784
Then you already answered your question for yourself. You literally admit to not being able to do anything. Fuck off now.

>>6998768
There's people without arms that fucking learns to paint with their fucking feet, stop using this pretend illness "oh no I can't concentrate on shit I'm so crazyyyy" as an excuse like if you were a 9 years old that can't know best what the fuck is wrong with him and why his grades are so bad
You're not fucking disabled, the fact that you keep jumping in all these hoops to avoid the bitter taste of trying to use your willpower fucking proves it

Stop responding to this guy

I'm a doodler, is it ok for me to try figure drawing/anatomy first or do I need to do other things first?

>>6998800
if you understand form and perspective on a basic level you're good to go

>>6998287

>>6998800
yes, get into figure drawing as soon as possible.

>>6997707
I always draw eyelids brighter than anything in the eye region, but thats just me
>>6997836

I was gonna comment that red ass from the bottom left was actually appealing before redimg the text. I like it the most out of all ur redlining, the front nude is also enticing.

>>6998419
Good


Alright fellas, 2024 is the year we make it. *at least* two hours drawing per day. Also i need to do more things than doodles

>>6998805
>>6998815
I don't know if I should, I'm not even great at 3D shapes currently. My stuff is super flat amateur stuff.

hi, can someone give me advice?

>>6998792
There's literally days that I can't even get up to take a shower or brush my teeth if I don't have adderall going through me. It's not just a pretend mental illness, it's debilitating.

>>6998824
that happens to me but not nearly as extreme. When I first started drawing I pumped out pieces constantly but as the fun died down my output slowed down quite a bit. Used to draw something weekly and now it's once every few months if I don't take my meds. Longest streak was 6 months without drawing. It's not even that I don't enjoy drawing, I still do enjoy it, it's just a lot of effort for me to start it

Gnome

>>6998433
i too enjoy making portraits of degenerate parasites living off parents and friends money while propagating dumb ass ideology that ruins millions of peoples lives

>>6998178
Yeah, everything that wasn't the whale girl I admittedly just slapped on. The composition was an afterthought, and I guess it kinda shows lol.
I do gotta work on hair a lot more though, yeah... Thanks for the feedback though!
>>6998497
Nah, I did it from imagination. I just wanted to know if the pose and anatomy and all looked decent at least

>>6998823
Proportions look solid overall, it's time to step up the values though for sure. Can't add anything else since I'm a permanoob at painting.

>>6998820
>>6998829
Soul.

I don't know what I'm doing

I want to illustrate in an art neauvo style but all I know how to do is throw random shadows and highlights on to flats colours

Finished this earlier today. I think I made the chest a bit too concave and didn't push the clothing folds enough. This year I'll see if I can learn more perspective, anatomy, and values/rendering. Also up my gestures. My speed has gotten better but it's not great.

>>6998829
is this digital made to look like traditional?

>>6998786
So then I should just give up, die, never learn any hobby or make something of myself? All of its just worthless?

>>6998861
Nah it's acrylic and gouache

>>6998823
Values look okay, could increase the amount of detail, sharpen things up

I didn't draw much past few days

>>6998864
You yourself already gave up, you yourself already made it clear you can't learn any hobbies, you yourself declared yourself worthless, you yourself already answered your own questions. Stop projecting blame onto others to make yourself feel more like a victim. Fuck off.

I have a dumb question, but how do you even rotate a box, without moving the vanishing points and move its location away from the vanishing points? I have tried to intuit it by looking around in my room, but I can't understand why it works/how. For example this box on this page, how would you rotate that specifically within the limits?.

>>6997688
Happy new year, /ic/! Here's to a wonderful 2024. Here's to big gains and even bigger smiles.

>>6998930
Easy for you to say, lmao, I don't know how what to draw and make for ocs.

>>6998926
You need to remember that parallel lines converge to the same VP. I quickly sketched an example of two boxes rotated without changing the vanishing points. If you want to rotate the box that you drew, you need to find the VPs and draw a new box with parallel lines that converge to the same vanishing points.

>>6998940
Why don't you try following David Finch's roadmap? It gives you something to do when you're bored or want to improve on some aspect of your art, and I've been finding drawing Bridgman really helpful in helping me "get it"
https://davidfinchart.com/where-to-start-and-where-to-go-from-there-a-roadmap-to-professional-quality-art/

last doodle of the year, happy 2024 lads

>>6998948
What effect I am trying to achieve is the feeling that both of these objects are placed on the same surface, regardless of their specific rotation. Am I right in thinking, as long as I choose to make both objects fixed in one of the axis(in this example the y-axis), that the effect is achieved?

>>6998926
I'm not really sure what you're trying to accomplish in your drawing but rotating a box on its center axis changes the vps. Moving the box around the same vanishing points >>6998948
translates to a left right, up down, back forth movement of the box as the box itself is technically not rotated in that 3d space, for example notice that the same corner is still pointing at you.

>>6998949
Based doodle, happy new year anon

Something stupid I was cooking up for a /co/ thread. I know theres a bunch of shit to work on but for one of my first larger attempts at a project like this im pretty happy with it.

>>6998992
lol I didn't refresh page. This is me >>6999015
So, any item you draw in a blank void you can technically say is on the same plane above and below the horizon line. You just have to add the context when you use them in a drawing. For example, in your drawing, I can say both those boxes are the same height and are placed right next to each other. But I can also say that the right box is 1/100 the size of the left box and is floating in front of the camera. Another thing I can say is am looking at both boxes from above and the right one is balancing on its corner. Until you draw them in a scene all are possible.

>>6998948
So I gotta read a few books and a few things to get to a cool comic artist? Character design and all? Alright thanks then. Though is it alright as a beginner to get a art tablet?

>>6998792
Then you might as well say I'm not interested in anything because I can't do anything.
I have literally tried doing several artistic hobbies and gave up each of them immediately when I was a teenager.
>Gave up on Source Filmmaker
>Gave up on GameMaker
>Gave up on FireAlpaca
>Gave up on Photoshop
I didn't know how any of them worked or what to
do. I don't even know basic trig. Even when I look art guides, I literally cannot comprehend them or figure them out. I don't want to be stuck with no creativity or being unable to express myself. This is what it's like for literally everything I try doing.

>>6999038
lol, the Howie classic
>>>/adv/30478917

Begs shouldn't teach begs. Leave this place. See what your art is lacking and educate yourself in that specific regard. Rinse and repeat. No one needs this place to grow.
Happy new year.

Did this study of a Guido Reni painting a few months ago, I'm not sure if over-reliance on the eyedropper tool may have gimped my progress

>>6999031
>>6999015
I think I understand it a bit better now. So without context, we can't say for sure how the depth of these boxes really function, only that:
>a) they're on the same level in terms of the horizontal line)
>b) they both share the one vanishing point on the y axis.
But then again, is a) really true? Looking at the back corner of each of these boxes implies a certain depth that both share, as it is roughly the same. Is it possible for two objects to have the same depth, but different scale? Idk I just want to be 100% sure

>>6999050
Nice-
>eyedropper
Dropped.

is marc brunet's course good?

Anything majorly off with this guy?

>>6999027
kek, nice.

>>6999090
the torso looks weak I would exaggerate the back arch more

>>6999096
Thanks friends. I'll try push it abit further.

>>6999067
They share the same horizon line yes but not the same vps. I'm not really sure where your thinking is going on the last part. You're just drawing vertical lines, those do not translate to depth and wouldn't make sense as a rule that objects within tangent lines must be in the exact same y axis.

>>6999099
I see, thanks for the help!

What sort of study do I need to achieve this?

>>6999049
I agree, but I am not the best at judging my own art. Until I get a better eye for it I'd like some help catching my mistakes or at least pointing me in a good direction. Are there other beginner friendly threads/ communities that are better? Is DAD good? I'd be open to any.

>>6998847
>>6998878
thanks both of you!

>>6999032
>So I gotta read a few books and a few things to get to a cool comic artist?
Well, you have to actually draw through Bridgman. It's like a thousand drawings (this takes about a year), but yeah. That's the gist of it. It won't get you to a "comic artist" level, but you'll get closer by drawing forms over and over.

> Though is it alright as a beginner to get a art tablet?
If it gets you drawing, then I see no reason to not get a tablet. If you're concerned you won't use it, I would try starting with regular ol' pen and paper, stick with it for like a month and then try digital.

>>6999081
i wanted to do this but it's a digital only course, i feel that i should get better with paper and pencil first

>>6998756
>You have free will and actively choose
Which he though? His mind or body? Because the animal will take control unless you know how to shift back and put forward your intention.
With drawing it's even harder because it seems that all of my creativity comes from the body part, but to draw I need my executive(mind) part, which forces me to sorta dip into both at the same time. I'm only really beginning to learn how to operate this body, so yes, it is hard, very hard, and free will was never able to just make you do that.

>>6999050
I like the aliased look, but you can get a lot more out of studies if you pick the colors manually. Don't rely on the eyedropper because you have no idea if you're picking the right color (there's a bajillion different hues in all the pixels).
You should look for the matching colors by sight because it's the best way to intuitively learn color relationships. Not sure abot further tips cause I don't know much about the current version of Paint.

>>6999090
maybe the ear is too high?

>>6999205
mmm very fuckable

>>6999090
Pectorals should insert closer to the base of the sternum. The ribcage is broad and makes him look short (unless that's deliberate).

>>6999205
Yeah, you could be right. General rule of thumb is that ears move up when the head angles down. I didn't take in to account the low angle.

Good job on the rendering.
>>6999234
Yeah I think I see what you mean. Definitely about the width of the ribcage. I'll take a look at it.

Thanks based study chad

>>6998605
finish shit i start is my only goal for next year.
That and improve my perspective

>>6997700
Looks like good practice. Im not terribly good at gesture so i can't comment on how to improve but it looks good anon
>Witnessed
>>6997804
You understand "something"
Colours look nice, i think a bit of fundies construction, facial anatomy, gesture
>>6998211
Ok you know the problem.
Anyways the piece works
Looks naisuu
>>6998595
I do phantom chicken scratches (move hand back and forth withouth touching the paper)
to aLeviate it somewhat, it could help.
>>6998844
You have some understanding of perspective , anatomy and anatomy in perspective but you need improvements there.
Face and belly look breety nice tho
>Anyways my shit.
I posted this on /k because a tread aboot vampyres gave me the idea.
Perspective, is it ok?, i had to fix the tower. Crenells might be off but its late so i wont fix

Tomorrow, I'm starting Proko's basics course. Wish me luck, boys.

>>6999306
that doesnt help me at all

My grandma just told me on new years eve she has dementia, happy new year!

>>6999343
Sorry to hear, Anon.

>>6998835
Massive cope

>>6999344
Thank you anon, she wasn't the best woman and made a lot of mistakes with my mother, but nobody deserves dementia.

>>6999306
that looks good anon, I think you should add a pencil blender to your arsenal.

>>6999343
how do you know she isn't bluffing? Also start building a playlist for her, grannies are a treasure, good luck anon.

Haven't tried doing a 'full' piece in a while, so this is as good a start as any I suppose, right before the new year. It's sort of a weird thing where the initial design I was going for is so simple, that I can't think of where to put detail to make it look better. Still, I probably did a better and faster job on this than I would have a year ago, even if I'm still /beg/ tier. Hope you all have a fruitful year.

This piece is making me go crazy. Going to stop for now I guess, even though I am itching to finish it, because there's just some glaring issue in the right figure that I just can't pin down with my pen right now.

>>6999373
>>6999387
>middle school doodles
>my "piece"
Are you fucks for real

>>6998812

ramlethal stuff

>>6999343
sorry to hear about that make sure to spend as much time with her as possible and make her as happy as possible even if heartbreak is inevitable

>>6999396
Sure

Fucking retarded reddit first let me post, and then shadow banned me. What a fucking shit website.

So I ask here: How do I share my art in real life? Like I'm meeting with a friend, do I just saay " hey look at this sick drawing ive been working on" and whip it out? I am a bit afraid of looking like a show off or pretentious. But I guess if it is a good drawing, then it really doesnt matter.

latest KINO fresh off the press, irritating making the same mistakes over and over I really need to focus more on fixing them and not just "noticing" them

>>6999402
These rock. You have any socials?

Happy new year I’ll stop posting.

>>6999415
Fucking retarded reddit first let me post, and then shadow banned me. What a fucking shit website.

So I ask here: How do I show my dick in real life? Like I'm meeting with a friend, do I just saay " hey look at this big dick I have" and whip it out? I am a bit afraid of looking like a show off or pretentious. But I guess if it is a good dick, then it really doesnt matter.

I want to draw characters in cool perspective and dynamic poses. Would doing a perspective course -> learn the basics of it -> draw a bunch of perspective/dyanmic poses from ref till it clicks, be a good way to learn?

Last sketches of the year, not a very productive month overall. Ill compare my progress to this next January

>>6999471
are you a professional artist? How did you get this good?

>>6999481
nta but we both know the answer anon, practice, all practice

>>6999441
not the same thing

>>6999415
I would do that if I were proud enough of what I did. Just motivate on impulse sometimes. You might pay for it in embarrassment, but at last you fucking did something

>>6999481
I don’t think im anywhere near a pro, but as the other anon said its just practice

This thread has helped me a lot over the years

goly shit I'm so durnk right nihw please tell me whatto draw and I will trys

>>6999494
draw Kurisu

>>6999426
MOOOREEE!!!!

>>6999494
Draw a masculine woman for good luck for yourself draw a feminine male for bad luck for your enemies

>>6999504
GIIDA NIRBUBG

>>6999514
>>6999514
A nab diug being ver srxby doing my besjnt

>>6999516
happy new years, drunk anon

>>6999504
It's really very good anon, but I think she got the extra long can of dr pepper

>>6999527
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>>6999525
Hell yeah anon
I wish i was as drunk as you i overestimated how much vodka i had left

>>6999504
Ooh, man. She's got the fluoride stare in this one.

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>>6999535
IOkay, sorry. Now I have a fulll mind of mind. I can write real words withz real sentenczes. Please give me mkre to draw so I can fulkfffil m ay need tod draw moreg oogood sthings!

>>6999536
Draw a princely frog

Please Oa O dp I do'ts wamt tp söep. Id on't want to sleep right nihw. I need to stasy awakel, because my life consists of teriible njsightmAAHRES WHICH ARE BEYOND HUMANJH COMPHRENSION! My cat wasas kille and fddeeefmroemed defroremed , i#,m scared for my cagtt hjhe is a cotgood boty and doesn't deservewe to have halaf a head and notn be acat ansymore so plllesae give me something ntto draw sos ji i have not to endruúre the suffferrring of mnty drneams anymrkoere

>>6999536
Go get some water and maybe a grilled cheese.
After that, let's see a squid lady.

>>6999537
>216 / 76 / 96 / 1 friggiog

>>6999539
sqzad lady

>>6999547
The gesture and facial expression speak to me. Did you make yourself food?

>>6999549
nop I',m nojnly eating fattttyya cjhips rigjt now, sorry

>>6999551
Enjoy them, maybe get something that's a little heavier. Grab that water though, and get your sketch pad. You need to take a trip to the restroom and hang out there for a little while. When you're thinking about what to sketch, look at the patterns and textures in the floor there. Do you see anything interesting that you could draw for us?

Happy New Year, frens! We’re all gonna make it.

Ohayo /beg/. Today I drew more gesture/figure drawings.
>>6998465
This time around I took more time with each. I think I have a somewhat decent understanding of form? What do you guys think? I suffer from anatomy tho, it's something I really need to study.
I'm starting to develop a habit of drawing every day, but that doesn't stop me from procrastinating and having it eat into my bedtime. Need to work on that also.
>>6998465
And thank you for the tips, I used that website for these poses. Will look into the timed course to see how that goes.

Anons do you guys feel cringe for posting your work to social media? Discord servers im in are only place i dont feel this

Part of me wants to use it, but everytime i do i end up deleting everything after a little while.

pic related sketch i did yesterday iirc.

>>6999566
Posting on social media for my 10 followers (at least half are bots) is the best way to force myself to see my own errors. It’s cringe, which is why I don’t do it much (and haven’t improved much), but I think it helps.

What pens are good for crosshatching? The ones i buy are always washed out like immediately after i start using it

>>6999568
Micron are meant to be good though, and that's in the pic. If it's every pen, are you sure it's not your paper?

>>6999567
Just feels pointless to me but I get what you mean

>>6998425
Thanks. Yes it's oils. Good answer, cheers.

>>6999575
Yeah your probably right that its the paper, as its watercolor paper. Heres the work before i color it, gotta work on proportions though as its off conpared to the OG

>>6999554
Mmmm someone here read bridgeman, fantastic lol.

I am nowhere near being a true pro, but I do feel I'm at least decent now, so I'd like to know some ways in which I could improve further on both composition and lighting, and if there's something I could learn that practice alone cannot teach me.

This is one of the finer drawings I've made recently after reading "Color and Light for the traditional painter", and I'm not asking for anatomy advice cuz I don't think this wood-ass mf is a good signifier of my level of anatomy lmao.

Anyways, any tips I can get on both lighting and image composition would be greatly appreciated (including how to make more interesting backgrounds)

>>6999312
Sorry i couldn't be of any help.
Which one are you if I may know?

>>6999471
Is that Isaac Asimov with a Santa hat? These sketches look sick by the way.

Is it possible to accidentally make a really good drawing? Like, can you make 1 drawing that's /adv/ or /pro/ tier then just have the rest get called /beg/ or /int/?

I'm asking from personal experience cause that happened to me once. I posted all my drawings on /ic/ and only one got a super high rating (it also was the only one that got over 100 likes on twitter) The rest of my art has just been call /beg/ and /int/

>>6999687
Broken clocks is a saying for a reason

>>6999306
Pic looks cool as fuck. Give blogu?

>>6999554
Gotta love those blocky bridgman catgirls. Legit tho they're nice.

>>6999707
Sorry I dont have a blog/ social media with my artwork. (I had one about 4 years ago I used to post 2 or 3 pics but it is lost now).
>I should prolly go make one soon and post shit.

tried to use a very hard brush and only stick to 5ish values

>>6999687
I can't see why not but I've never seen it happen. Maybe you could produce an /int/ piece as a /beg/ but I don't think you could hit /pro/ from /beg/.

>>6999607
I think you should paint the foreground and background at the same time. It would help with cohesion. Like start with a rough value block-in and then gradually dial in the detail over the whole piece without overly focusing on one part too much. Hope that makes sense

>>6999731
>>I should prolly go make one soon and post shit.
Damn straight

>>6999741
I have really low self-esteem so I wonder if that's why my drawings only come out good on rare occasion. I had a lot of fun with that drawing in particular so I probably wasn't worried or feeling down myself enough that I was able to just focus on the drawing and doing it well

>>6999745
You will find me posting here again in Beg Int critique type treads. And will post link to them when I make them (currently have shit to do but as soon as I finish up I will set something up).
I will use
>"For this anon >>6999745"
Or something like that so you know its me

I'm not sure what I'm doing anymore.
It's a bit all over the place. I feel like I plateaued or something.

>>6999471
Damn, good shit
gg bro

>>6999778
You got some skills.
Some poses are a bit stiff (red middle right 2 ) but some gestures are nicë.
Some heads be a bit weird, almost there but not quite. Try and learning about skull anatomy.
Facial muscles and how the neck conects to it.
>Pic elated
Facial important bits: IMO masseter, temporalis, zygomaticus major minor (some people have a split zygomatic muscle giving them a smiling dimple)

For skull anatomy: foramen magnum, zygomatic bone, orbital bone, temporal fossa, mandubule , and maxila (teeth do not follow the lips in curvature. Keep that in mind

Neck: cervical spine curvature, sternocleidomastoideus(behind the ears to center of clavicles), trapezoidal muscle superior/upper part (attaches from the base of the skull following the cervical spine , ends at the cranial side of the "spina scapulae and the lateral (most sideways) third of the clavicle.

Trachea curves forward, one end is open in the pharinx ( right behind the trachea is the esophagus) the other enters behind the clavicles.

Ps the most mobile joint is the atlantio occipital (first cervical vertebrae and the base of the skull joint). By leaning your head forward the ceric. Spine looses almost all curvature,

cranial units (neck proportions are based off the normal head position with a normal cervical spine curvature. (Basically Lean head forward the neck spine will get longer, lean head back it gets shorter).
Anyways looks nice. Try for colour or lighting.
Also the guys lower legs in the middle left look a bit funky

It's so difficult to draw a raised clavicle from the back like it just all blends with the back muscles

>>6999885
>fight bejita lost
funny; I'll post what I'm trying to draw next thread/on topic.

>>6999306
>Face and belly look breety nice tho
Thanks! I think it's my best work so far.
Gotta draw more.

>>6999820
Hey thanks man, that was some great advices. Fucking A.

Thinking about new years resolution to bump my daily drawing time from 1 hour to 2 hours every day, is this a good idea or will i end up getting burnt out too quick?
only been drawing for 3 months

are there some drawings you can't really use construction for? like if you're trying to draw someone from an usual perspective or something, should you just use gesture or figure in those situations?

>>6999986
You can use construction partially. My fav is cranial units.
Its a ball representing the cranium.
THE BALL Looks the same from any angle and you use it as a unit of measurement (2 craniums tall, 1.5 craniums wide). Use boxes in perspective to estimate how much bigger/ smaller a cranial unit is at that point in the perspective.
Gesture will give you flow (sag, swinging, movement ecc).
IF YOU WANT TO GET EXTREMELY awootistic you can make a sideways(latero lateral view) to measure how big shit ought to be on the main piece. Never done it but its prolly possibru, a reference would likely be easier

>>6999110
Good grasp on perspective
Gesture, mannequinization so you can make the body in perspective, anime stylization of your choice
Values, rendering to color the shot
Composition if you're not gonna off someone elses shot
Then some animation knowledge to make the hair blow in the wind
Maybe I missed something but basically just go through the beg sticky for a year or two zealously and you will be close to your goal

>>6999110
Looks good but the animation is really choppy for something like this. Especially since it's more generic anime most prob expect it to be somewhat smoother.

This prob would of looked better if it wasn't as detailed or at least for me that is

>>6999110
Zooming in on the head it gets wonky as fuck. I don't think this is something you'll honestly want to learn from unless it's seeing the mistakes looking closer at it

day 1 of learning to draw, kinda got inspired from that other anon, I'll try my best
started doing proko basics course, think I'll do the krenz images from /asg/ aswell, just for more observation gains and mileage
I drew this applin from memory, I don't have any understanding of light so idk if it's wrong

hi faggot
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gigachad above me

>imagine posting a garbage, unfunny pasta
>imagine samefagging to praise it
rope

>>7000116
Who are you quoting?

>>7000125
>imagine believing greentext is reserved only for quoting

>>6999962
I think it's fine to draw for two hours a day. remember you can also experiment with how you allocate those two hours (one hour in the morning, one in the evening, or something like that). If at any point you feel like you're dreading sitting down to draw, then it's time to reconsider how much time you're spending, imo

>>7000107
Hey man, can you take your autistic meltdown somewhere else? Some of us are trying to draw here.

>>7000131
First you were making up quotes, and now you've further degraded into plain old failquotes? You newgods disappoint me.

>>7000141
I've been here since 2008, friend.

>>7000144
I've been here since 1884, buddy.

Good comeback, (You) showed me!

/srs or /sarc tho????????????????????????????

>>6999778
Dont be afraid of using more lines

>>6999401
One of my Vilppu abominations

I was going to draw today but i just don't have it in me.
Feelsbad. Will do my best tomorrow.

Never bothered to ask. What is loomis. Is it literally just putting everything into a set proportion (6 heads rule, lines on the face), reminding you what to do in case your art is way too exaggerated, ie shit that I was told in middle school art class, or is it something more.

>>7000233
Read Fun with a Pencil and you'll find out

>>7000248
I'd rather read something else that was recommended to me so I want to know if i should bother also reading loomis and if i am given no reason to i will avoid it because it sounds retarded

almost done

>>7000233
It's a man.

>>7000255
Blog?

WIP. What specific bird comes to mind? What does it look like to you?

>>7000276
Angry bald eagle. Which makes me think republican, guns, maga, and retardation

>>7000270
Yeah I know that I mean his methods, his books, dur

>>7000276
Too symmetrical in the face. Mirroring is cheap and makes organic subject matters look uncanny.

>>7000276
Symmetrytoolcringebird

>>7000282
>>7000288
>>7000292
Sick. Thanks a lot for the answers. XO.

what's the way to draw boobs and butts? is best to just try to copy a reference?

playing today

It is incumbent upon me to arrest this artistic degeneracy by means of my impeccable illustrative vitalism, to wit, a piece about the kind of person you don’t like, who masturbates to sissy porn and then kills himself. A mere few strokes of your pen, and your muscular masculine art—REAL art, sufficient to express the contours of REAL existence, laced with REAL memes—will instantaneously obliterate the sterile neologisms and fussy indecipherable ingroup-speak of the skinnyfat zogslop cutesexyrobutts NPC bugman globohomo artstyle. Pebblecuck Venetian-blindscel topazpilling, Khazarian podlicker planetary splungoven. Douftil grangleman, spoddleball vac heenie-feenie mugrancis brenge. Loomis. Cock.

>>7000309
Study them. Observe and try to learn how they work, search dedicated tutorials, etc.

>>7000211
That looks very good

What is the usual brush size do you use in pixels?
And for drawing, say, a character, what is the size of your canvas?

I avoid as much as possible to zoom in, but if I draw at 100%, I usually find it difficult to add some details such as the face features or drapery details.

>>7000383
I am >>6999741
usually stay zoomed out to where the width of the drawing is my handspan. I start with large brushes and then gradually work smaller. My canvas size is 2000x2000. I start with a brush that's maybe 300 and work my way down to maybe 8-10 if going for lots of detail otherwise I might stay at 20-30 to finish. Maybe smaller brush near the eyes, and for hair strands. I only zoom maybe 5% of the time. I don't look at my brush sizes though I just resize them according to my needs, but I aim for as big as possible

please help me be less autistic thank you. First time I tried any sort of figure

this year i become an artist

>>7000271
I'm planing to make new one soon, i don't post anything anymore.

>>7000540
I can't belive you actually drew something outside of your comfort zone, i'm so proud of you.

Trying to figure out shadows

>>6998491
Finished it. Could have spent more time on it but at a certain point I just want to be done and move on. Pretty proud of this one.

>>6998508
Ehhh I made her neck shorter and honestly didn't like it as much. I just like how it looks i guess.

Here's some 1 minute gesture drawings I've been doing this week
better than my 30 second ones and previous week but still not great
I think I should take my time with the next set

>>7000556
I also made this comic for /v/ for fun

>>7000214

>>6997688
I'm just starting to go through a book copying the pages and this is my latest study. Main focus is simple anatomy, but I definitely fucked up the face and hair. I should be going through all of the parts and details later on, though.

>>7000550
Cute

To commemorate starting my 3rd Month of learning to draw, I decided to do an original drawing

There's a lot of mistakes and mishaps and problems with it, but I put a lot of effort into it so I'm proud I at least was able to get it done.

>>6997688
how long should gesture training take? 2 mins for basic, 5 mins for landmarks and construction, and 10 mins for muscle écorché?

Unrelated but say a ribcage is bending backwards from the pelvis. Should the stretched side be an S curve, or a reverse S curve? I don't understand when it should be a reversed S or not.

>>7000648
Very nice anon good work. Just needs more shading and it would be perfect

Kek

>>7000685
This helps me see how off i was

Attempt number one.

how i do

>>7000723
You don't messure properly. Look at angles and distance between features.

>>7000763
Really good, head could be a little wider

>>7000648
impressive that you chose to tackle perspective. character looks a little stiff though. Is it based on a 3d model?

>>7000763
head is super tall

>>7000823
not bad

>>7001150
>>7001150
>>7001150
>>7001150
>>7001150

>>7000763
its less that the head's too tall and more that the perspective of the part is off

am i doing this right?

>>6999745
my blogu. Have fun.
@Jerichosketch on twitter

>>7000723
Firstly, I'm a nodraw. Be that as it may, the drawing doesn't look like the model at all, she might even be a different race. I'm not sure why but here's some observations:

The drawing's face is too wide at the cheekbones. If I squint at the model and ignore the shadowed part and hat, just focussing on the well-lit area, the model's face is almost a triangle coming to a point at the chin, while the drawn face is a tumorous lump.

The mouth is too wide - just draw the red part and ignore the creases. Make the upper lip thinner. Make the gap between the lips black and add the two teeth in later.

As with the mouth, the eyes are too wide and elongated because you have drawn the concept (what you suppose the creased extremities to look like) rather than the part that pops out as you squint at it (the spherical white eyeball). Then add the lashes and dark corners last.

Also, the (hardly visible) line from the model's nose to mouth extends down to the point of her chin. That's not what you have drawn.