/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

I WILL draw today.

>>6994962
Remember:
before criticising any of my work I post, I will require this information about you
1. your full name - name and surname
2. the address of your current residence
3. the address of your workplace
4. your marital status and the name of your spouse, if any
5. your annual wage, before and after tax
6. your license plate
7. your place of birth
8. the names of your parents
9. your credit card number and the expiration date
and finally you MUST post your work.
If but one of these points is not met, or, if I am unable to find a Wikipedia page about you, that matches the information you have given, that lists you as a prominent artist in any artistic field, all your critique directed towards me or my work is invalid and actually the opposite of what you say is true and my work is perfect and devoid of any mistakes.
Also, when you do criticise my work, you can not use any word included in the following list because your post will automatically get filtered by my automatic filtering system. You must treat me like a toddler when you criticise my work or I will cry.
https://rentry.org/za5t5

Let's keep it nice and civil in here, folks.

Please guys let my suffering end. >>6994726

>>6994970
Holy based

>>6994979
I don't give a fuck about books and courses so I have no idea of what that is, but yeah definitely you need to be able to draw at least recognizable stuff before studying whole scenes
Protips: draw stuff that you Ike, draw it easy without bullshit perspective attempts, help yourself with tracing, and above everything have fun. If you get no satisfaction when the drawing is done yu will never get better.

Can anyone recommend a method for constructing feet? I've been trying to follow Proko's method but it's confusing and the way he constructs them doesn't actually seem to follow the form of feet. I've got the Hampton book but his construction seems overly complex for a /beg/.

>>6994962

how to practice observation? I keep having to overlay the ref on my drawing because I'm unsure if I made the right lines

>>6995043
Read Keys to Drawing.

Realized my heads were weak so I relearned everything about heads. I figured if I can draw a decent geometric head in perspective I at least got the fundamentals down. Also I did this from memory/imagination.

I’m going to continue not drawing.

>>6995055

now draw portraits

Big slapper sketch from last night.

>>6995043
Your problem seems to be confidence rather than accuracy.
Why do you want to be 100% accurate? Close enough is good enough, being able to get it absolutely sight size or whatever is a good skill but you should see how it fits your art goals

>>6995102
Why not you stupid bastard?

holy shit I need to stop watching anime and actually draw

>>6995138
Because you already declared me NGMI so what’s the point?

>>6995177
ok :)

>>6995183
Finally, someone who accepts my answer!

>>6995155
If you draw in an anime style then does it count as research?

>>6995190
Fuck off you annoying cunt.

thoughts?

>>6995203
No u

found a new angle to kill my brain

>>6995210
Love it. Left arm is just a little too thin though.

fixed some bits but I really struggle here

>>6995242
Looks nice.

>>6995242
sick!!! my only critique would be to maybe have the shirt collar go back a bit further so it looks like it's wrapping around their neck. i might just be nitpicking though, good work :)

Finished my art summary of this year, hopefully I can get off beg class in a couple years.

>>6995265

kek

Tried drawing fundies and heads from imagination and got humbled hard. Drawing heads from reference is easier by comparison.

>>6994746
im >>6994237
could you red line it plz? also how could i draw the milk to be less thick?

I gotta say this place has been very helpful in getting me to avoid shortcuts and do the longer but better looking route

It takes longer but in the end it feels a lot more satisfying, even if I'm never 100% satisfied with the results

Character sheet for a binturong character I've created

>>6995285
that schnoz looks like it could smell a shekel buried a mile deep under the ocean

Since the loomis link in the sticky is dead, I've compiled all the books it had into a zip. Enjoy and keep learning. Use base64 to dec*de.
>aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cubWVkaWFmaXJlLmNvbS9maWxlLzhidGFpb3M3OXRlMTJudi9Mb29taXMuemlwL2ZpbGU=

Kinda lost right now. Learning to draw heads, I read/watched Proko, Loomis, Hampton, Vilppu and they tell a lot of useful info. Except for what I should be actually drawing for practice. So far I've been constructing heads from reference for 4 weeks and now I am not sure where I should move to next. I tried learning planes of the head, but drawing asaro heads feels incredibly artificial. Here I tried to find references in strong lighting and attempt rudimentary shading to understand planes. But I don't think it's working out.
What should I do next? Study individual features? I can't continue to only draw construction lines. Thinking of drawing my obscure waifu for a change, but after that what studies should I do?

>>6995338

I think the shading came out nice but it was a complete coincidence, I wouldn't be able to replicate it

Sup beg, todays "exercise" felt like complete waste of time plus i cannot even tell if i did it right or wrong. Drawing nonexistent shapes in a vacuum is easily my least favorable exercise and i legit feel during it like i have no talent or creativity or free will. Like what in the fuck Vilppu? Not even LOOMIS made me to do this.

>>6995338
you could pick up keys to drawing and research what are soft edges from chapter about light and shadows. or do chapter 1 and find out what is symbol drawing and how to stop that
>>6995305
bad line weight at his face. Face is one of the most important landmarks of the body and you casually used there the least visible lines. Also snout should be drawn in a way suggesting it is 3D and overlapping the face under it
>>6995285
i kneel
>>6995278
research what is value range and why it is important
>>6995210
the legs stocking are missing shade making it flat + same black as background makes it completely vanish
>>6995055
i kneel
>>6995043
by just drawing (from the reference)
>>6994979
i quickly looked at the book and i have to say the information in it is VERY DENSE. For example keys to drawing explains perspective on like 10 pages, here they do it on 2 lmao. So while the book looks beg friendly enough, you gonna have to chew through it very slowly and carefully. Also you are making the mistake of not copying all the pics from the book. Mileage is the king. You want ratio of like 5 minutes reading, 3 hours drawing. Which will easily be accomplished if you copy all the example pics in the course. Looking at your pic i assume it is from perspective homework: you didnt draw through the 3d shape, you didnt mark vanishing point and i can tell you didnt try your best drawing it. You will have way easier time doing keys to drawing.
>>6995382
anon... there is no shading, just visible sketch layer under it

>>6995043
Just draw from reference

Put the ref next to your drawing and draw

Try to recreate it. If it's not perfect, it can still be good practice.

For example I followed an explosion drawing guide for this post:>>6995290

I put the explosions the artist drew in his guide next to the canvas and tried to recreate it. I'm not completely satisfied with the excessive uniformity, but it's still good to practice it.

https://medibangpaint.com/en/use/2022/08/how-to-draw-an-explosion/

Alright, finally starting to make some progress.

>>6994420 (for this guy who did this sketch for me to help me improve after my first attempt at drawing Maria Amino)

Finally, was able to do a study that felt somewhat close to the original image.

It doesn't look great but at least it looks like the character and doesn't look hideously ugly like my first attempt.

(Note I didn't look at the anon's sketch for this, just the original image I was referencing that's on the left side of the picture.).

>>6995388
Heh'd at the cock and balls.
Seems like you did fine.

>>6995388
>drawing shapes instead of what he wants
>making useless notes

NGMI, permabeg

>>6995388
It's what I meant, the construction lines look like shading. Maybe I'm the only one seeing it. Whatever, I'm trash either way

>>6995388
>you could pick up keys to drawing and research what are soft edges from chapter about light and shadows. or do chapter 1 and find out what is symbol drawing and how to stop that
I finished keys half a year ago and specifically didn't want to do any rendering whatsoever. As I stated, I only drew shadow shapes to study planes of the head. I didn't want to spend time on blending. Any helpful recommendations from 100 different books you've read?

What would be the best course/book to follow if my end goal is to be able to make dynamic posed figures from imagination? I've been messing about with a lot of things like morpho, vilp, steve etc but in particular dont understand how morpho really helps. Thanks bros

>>6995410
Also drew this shortly after...

Looks awful. Not really sure how to do noses properly or jaw lines yet.

>>6994962
im going to be the best artist to ever art

>>6995289
Not 100% sure what your intention for the pose was, but this is assuming the one in back, the milker, is hugging the milkee from behind.

>>6995289
Also this is helpful

>>6995210
It's really cute. I think the style would look great animated.

As an image in itself it is a little bit flat. The light source seems kind of inconsistent. In some places it seems to be coming from above and in some places from the side. It might just be me though.

Also some things aren't really shaded at all, just one flat tone throughout. More consistency in the approach would make it feel more finished.

I would encourage you to look into simple anti-aliasing techniques. You can get a lot out of that to add more expression to the face especially. Also changing the darkness of certain sections in some of the lines in the face can simulate different line weights, which could also add a lot to the expression there.

>>6994962
Gestures seem to make sense when I watch others do it, but when I try to put it into practice, I get picrel (5 minutes each). I'm trying to follow Hampton's figure drawing books and videos but I'm just not getting it. What am I missing here?

From what I "know", I need to:
>start with the head, then work the way down the spine, then build the torso from that. The legs and arms come last and any remaining time is where you can add more form with wrapping lines.
>go fast
>not worry about the smaller details
>use as few lines as possible
>use wrapping lines to show form
>I, S, C lines
>try to push the pose where possible

>>6995003
my eyes

>digital drawing course part 1
>required software: CSP
>digital drawing course part 2
>required software: photoshop
why would you do this

this one I felt quite happy about

rate my rendering

>>6995494

Focus more on getting the proportions and sizes of things correct while still remaining loose. I can tell you're starting with the head, then tunnel visioning on the rest of the body and not keeping it in proportion with the head. Try and train yourself to look at the entire pose at once and compare it to your drawing every couple seconds. Also, do shorter times like 1 or 2 minutes so that you're forced to distill the pose down as much as possible. Last thing is that gestures are not supposed to look "good", especially at first. It's better for them to be sloppy but have good, flowing lines that capture the motion of the pose. Yours show some form and are getting the angles of the limbs close, but are stiff and nervous (again, shortening your timer will help with that)

>>6995388
>always gives advice
>worst drawer in the thread
kek

>>6995457
Lil redline for ya.
This is where constructivism and the later chapters of loomis comes into play, you're still at the stage where you're building your face on a flat plane so it's difficult to get proper anatomy and everything's gonna look a little downy.
At your level I would recommend bringing up a construction diagram of the facial planes and tracing over your reference before drawing a seperate study, it'll help you re-enforce the angles you're working with and give you a little muscle memory to work with.
I will say though, your proportional skills are decent, you just need a deeper understanding of the subtle angles within the face.
Note the V shape I drew to indicate the edge of the eyesocket near the temple, that was the technique that helped me get my head around eyesockets.

Ohayo /beg/. Today I drew some /asg/ style copies of my favorite gal ahko-chan. Didn't feel like drawing today so I did something simple. Challenging myself to post everyday is definitely working, I wouldn't have drawn today if it weren't for that. Feels good.

>>6995622
Really nice. Love the linework, although the thinner lines could use some cleaning up ie the ropes. I would also consider making the ropes tighter, they look like they could slip off.
>>6995570
Rendering looks really good so far. Consider redrawing the pubes.
>>6995530
>>6995242
Top tier.
>>6995494
If your focus is on gesture you're adding too much construction to it, making it look stiff. Long flowy lines that focus on motion rather than anatomy is the key.
>>6995457
>>6995410
Just keep practicing, take time to look it over before saying you're done to catch mistakes, redraw multiples times to see where you're off each time.
>>6995382
That body looks pretty nice. Hair's lacking all kinds of form.
>>6995338
You're doing a lot of symbol drawing anon, and that is in no way the shape of her head. I think you're gonna have to go back to the drawing board.
>>6995305
Neato.
>>6995290
Keep at it, your positive attitude is greatly benefitting your work!
>>6995210
Kawaii.
>>6995131
Ass looks good, waist up has a lot of issues, did you use a reference?
>>6995055
Damn.

>>6995530
Keep it up anon! You're practicing consistently and your pics have appeal.

>>6994979
Keys to drawing

>>6995351
oh no no nono AHHHAHAHHAHAHHAA

>>6995388
these drawings look surreal without the body poses context. why do you think you have no free will? You can draw random shapes and use your own judgement to tell if its good or bad. I also sometimes randomly doodle shapes. But I dont know, Im just a beg

>>6995644
NTA, Im just saying, your redline looks correct, but that method looks ugly as fuck. I would 100% get convinced Im doing something wrong because that sketch is damn ugly.

>>6994970
No you fucking won't.

>>6995388
Dude... someone like you shouldn't be giving advice. Those bodies you're drawing are some of the ugliest things I've seen on this board. Goblino-tier.

>>6995658
sometimes you gotta trust the process. if your sketches/practice work don't look ugly sometimes you're not improving, that's how you end up with perma/beg/s who draw nothing but 5/10 work for years because they can't leave their comfort zone

>>6995616
>always gives advice
>and always posts his work
now post yours

>>6995242
hello me of 6 hours ago, I think you are too scared of wider value range :) Here's an adjust me for you

>>6995265
nitpicking is good that's how you improve

>>6995285
looks like disney storyboard style :) I like!

>>6995290
GMI attitude

>>6995305
cool character :D maybe try match up the profile vs front view for the muzzle area a bit more :)

>>6995338
for me I started out doing sinix value distillations and loomis and now I am here. I drew from imagination too much so now I try to do more from reference

>>6995388
I think you'd benefit from a few very slow studies rather than the large quantity that you do right now

>>6995658
>>6995649
thanks! :D

>>6995677
You pussies are so predictable.

>>6995677
Are you buying or just browsing? Please don't touch the merch.
Pawell already knows it's the constant advice giving I dislike about him. :^)

>>6995616
I’m the worst drawer in the thread because I haven’t drawn in several months, now.

>>6995694
You better draw IMMEDIATELY!
I believe in you, anon.

hello /beg/&/int/ owo
another day getting mogged by /a/, /h/, and /vt/

>>6995695
You’ll just tell me I’m a NGMI permaprebeg again, so fuck off.

>>6995697
Is it because of the crabs? Do those other places have nearly so many? Or is it something else?

Being bad at drawing is such bullshit. Fuck

>>6995703
Just, like, take the ai pill, man.

>>6995691
Cat anon? Oh...

>>6995705
I may be a talentless subhuman waste of a life but at least I'll never be that faggot LOL

How am I doing

>>6995698
No. I will encourage you.

>>6995707
I just want him to ditch his crutches. I want him to succeed. But he's been doing the same book copying and stagnating. It's sad to see. Pawell needs to actually draw.

>>6995723
But “just draw” is a /beg/ trap. It’s better to grind fundies to perfection before attempting anything else.

>>6995709
It just looks like somebody making a funny joke.
Also I will refuse to look him up and will not be reopening this thread on the off chance I might find something to the contrary.

>>6995726
Personally, I think you need to switch up studying and drawing for finished pieces. Doing just one of them all the time is not a proper diet for an artist. Grinding just fundies will leave you with no actual artwork. Doing just the drawing will leave you with your drawings immortalized in memes.
Pawell has been grinding fundies for over a year now and it has lead nowhere. When he actually does draw finished pieces he can achieve nice results.

>>6994962
Is this my bible? Do I just stare at this image for a few hours every day and burn it into my memory? I have the Hampton book and watched the messy videos but is there any better resource here? I feel like I need a digital version of this where I can google the layers and get details about the placement of each in one stop shop. A layer for the skeleton and add the muscles on top.

>>6995731
Well you’re an idiot crab, like most everyone else here, so you’ll just tell him whatever he’s doing is wrong no matter what.
>>6995721
Like this retard. First you tell me I’m NGMI and should give up, now you pretend to encourage me.

>>6995723
I agree, the pawell guy isn't going anywhere with just copying books

Still life with graphite pencil - does anyone have any resource on how to do this well, paarticularly the shading? What Im looking for is some idea of process.

I have an idea in my head but still.

>>6995723
sauce? I am grinding the Hampton book and peek at TACO, feel like I am improving but I'd like to avoid this "pawell" trap. Pic related is from a reference so I can understand the muscles better.

>>6995752
The World Economic Forum announced they will abolish traditional art by 2030 to reduce the environmental impact. From then only digital art will be legal.

>>6995752
Dibs on the cover art, its mine and mine alone

>>6995752
Lol. This nigga thinks reading = hearing.

>>6995742
I'm sorry to hear this place has broken your mind and soul.

>>6995767
It’s okay. I’m an atheist. the soul doesn’t exist.

Here's the last page of my comic Lustless. im wondering how people react now that ive been drawing for a little over a year.

>>6995756
Do you even evolve for 2024 text based human interaction bro

>>6995773
Also heres my last drawing of her, I did not color but I did draw it.

>>6995494
COPY THE LOOMIS PROPORTION DIAGRAMS

sketches

>>6995772
Why do you keep coming here if you haven't drawn in months though?

Gesture is a fucking useless meme. Just do croquis like the japs.

>>6995779
I serve as a reminder of how shit you people are.

Do you guys post art on your personal instagram where friends follow you? Im really considering it. On one hand, I love aesthetic artist photos and it would be good to share my art and be a little "normie", but on the other hand, social media is social media, its gonna be a waste of time. I'm a no-life incel tho, so it won't hurt.

>>6995784
Anon... ;~;

>>6995781
I thought that was a french dish.

>>6995786
No. there were too many people i know IRL who followed my instagram and i didn’t want them knowing the sorts of things i drew.

>>6995789
I mean, unless you draw futa or some fucked up shit, who cares? It's who you are, your self expression, own it man

>>6995786
I draw loli porn so that's a hard no. My closest circle still knows, but I don't need potential employers going "This guy seems creepy."
>>6995781
You mean figure drawing?

>>6995786
yeah but none of my "real artist" friends ever interact with my posts so i kind of gave up on doing that and just keep my shit to myself now.

>>6995792
who cares about them? Entertain the plebs!
So regardless of that, did u feel like it's just a waste of time to use social media to share these stuff?

>>6995784
More like a reminder to not become a whiny baby man bitch like you, so thanks

>>6995792
What's a "real artist"?

I don't see how this is helping anyone draw

>>6995793
i'd always feel pretty shit afterward, especially if they were actively interacting with my non-art tweets, so stopping feels like the right choice to make yeah.

>>6995795
i see it as people who are employed professionally as artists or work on commissions/freelancing for publishers.

>>6995796
I drew this for you therefore the prophecy fulfilled itself

>>6995773
Oh I remember Lustless from the Tourney

Didn't really take my time on the anime girls, was trying out a new construction method. And some other stuff

>>6995688
>He gets filtered by >pyw
lmao

>>6995723
Damn catbro, you broke that guy's heart.

>>6995726
pawell grinded fundies as close to perfection as possible then by the time he got to actually using them he could barely apply any of it
a year of perspective, drawing what you see etc and makes basically the same mistakes anyone else would just picking up loomis for the first time

>>6995752
Kek

honest question, is tracing useful? I'm not talking about mindlessly tracing of course, but using construction over a drawing, checking the proportions, trying to think of what you're doing
Does any pro here feel like tracing has been helpful in a way?

>>6995834
Not sure why you would be asking for a pro in beg. Not a pro,
The only ways I imagine tracing to be useful is 1) Quickly getting the figure out of an image that is rendered or real, to reference. 2)Drawing, then tracing, and overlaying the two, and seeing where you went wrong- not any different from overlaying the original image, but it can help if you think about how your hands felt when you made the lines correctly when tracing.
imo, tracing holds no benefit when you're drawing digitally, and you can just overlay the original image. It won't really help you train your hand, and it absolutely won't help you train your eye.

Im actually alright at using pencil to draw, but my god digital art makes me feel like ive lost all my skill (first time using a tablet to draw, and krita doesnt make it easy)

I did this for a secret santa, I know its generally bad, but more importantly I just feel like compositionally speaking something is very off and I just couldn't put my finger on it.

any ideas, or just general advice?

>>6995849
Please for the love of god never pick up the airbrush again, you do not want to fall into that trap.

>>6995852
I've been hard rounding it for a minute now save for a little skin toning. What exactly is the "trap"?

>>6995852
lol yeah it does look a bit shit. is it actually useful? the default brushes all seem a bit crap

>>6995824
I am truly a harsh mistress sometimes. But I want you all to gmi.

>>6995456
Please please please please anybros please help thanks

didn't do any gestures today because no time and the quick portrait sketch i did was full of glaring issues...

You WILL draw still lifes and you WILL enjoy it.

please give feedback before I will proceed to shading.

>>6995859
no you don’t.
>>6995794
Well I’m still not drawing so who’s the bitch now, faggot?

>>6995856
The airbrush is the classic deviantart perma/beg/ trap, they think its's a shortcut for all values/ effects.
>>6995858
There's two pencil brushes I believe, are you not able to use pressure sensitivity? You should be able to sketch the same after you get used to it.

>>6995870
Still you lol

>>6995872
>are you not able to use pressure sensitivity
ive actually got it turned on here, but its triky to get the lines to do what i want. i dont actually plan to do that much digital art, i just thought it was interesting how different it feels to traditional art. like lightly resting my pen doesnt produce tha same effect a normal pencil would. i find it interesting that the pressure feels so incredibly diifferent

>>6995812
the tourney she rightfully won :) not coping btw

What if instead of white voids we did black voids would that satisfy /ic/‘s desire for diversity?

>>6995867

Finish it.
Take a photo or put the original image side by side.
Post here for crit.

>>6995904
Just attempt a fucking background.

>>6995849
use hatching for shading
there is a massive difference in digital/trad but you can iron it out
hatching is easy practice start ez as u go along then it becoems hard then it becoems ujfn
keep drwaing sharks in many angulars
for color use glorious hard square/flat brush

>>6995749
the head is not f aing that direction, alighn it with the neck, it is directly in front of the neck, the neck does not seem turned, so it would look like a penis head not a hula hoop

>>6995940
thanks, I have been avoiding the head so yeah it looks crap, I need to get more comfortable with the muscles there too

>>6995680
im do not see the back of the neck that is the issue small back of the neck turtle just fill it in all good move b ody backwards or head forward
makes her head look floaty or obscred neck super thin long

>>6995820
work was posted tho

>>6995732
even beter you compare and contrasti t to real life examples and other anatomy drawigns pick and choose a part to learn not just physical u can choose body or single limb or muscle all up to yuo

How do I master perspective?

>>6995649
n ice girls now drqw them from imagination prete3nd u are a japanese nihon aniamtor

>>6995957
no idea lol

>>6995961
Damn, thanks for replying though.

>>6995955
The thing that interests me about Hampton is he simplifies groups of muscles into easy to remember shapes. Not 100% anatomically accurate but it is 80% there and good for /beg/s like me. Just a lot to study! Hate how how many paywalls I hit when I check out lineofaction or bodiesinmotion. I am a pirate and am used to getting stuff for free but art seems to be full of paypigs

Did this as a warm-up, thinking of doing this pic as a more realistic face study. Thoughts?

>>6995963
it really is a grifter bubble i use one hampton pdf and got many gains u wil enjoy

more dean yeagle copies, also rendering this time

>>6995965
eys if u may the warm up is cartoony and a different expression he is bord slant mouth not bad as a stand alone drawing
the photo is psycho focus eyes on the camera mouth straight when u study pay attention to details such as the shadows on the eyes his exact expression and his left side is almost obscured by hair right is not also the bones protruding through the skin and the outline formed from his jaw and the brow ridges etc

>>6995872
> they think its's a shortcut for all values/ effects.
Well if there's nothing but soft edges like that pic I see being a problem, but how is forbidding it entirely any better? It's compare it to salt: good in small doses.
>>6995875
Go to the top of the screen under Settings>Configure Krita. Then navigate to the tablet settings. You should see a curve to adjust the pressure for your tablet.

>>6995870
>who’s the bitch now, faggot?
Keep cryin forever bitch nigga, you make me feel like a G

i feel like I drew enough to justify buying new supplies

why am I like this? for years I didn't even draw on white paper because I didn't think i deserve it

>>6996006
What does your therapist say about it?

>>6996008
I dont have a therapist

>>6995003
I thought it was a fart explosion from the thumbnail

I keep fucking up my drawings.
I wanted to make the left cleaner, and I ended up with something more accurate to my reference, but I don't like it very much. I also didn't like my sketch when i made it.
Also really, really struggling with the face. Felt glaringly off in the sketch, was so upset about it, too big not tilted right, but now I look at it and think its so cute and sovlful. What am I doing wrong.

>>6996006
I am the opposite, as a beg . While it was fun to try out many new things and spend cash, what truly matters for now is graphite pencils and the sketchbook.

>>6996017

fag

>>6995992
Why does she have the stink lines and is indian in the oc kek

Is looking at a black and white version of your colored artwork a good way to gage if your values are decent? Is this a commonly done thing?

>>6996017
Why did you draw queen elizabeth as a femboy? You shouldn't disrespect the dead like that.

>>6996023
yes and yes
most soft has a 'color proofing' mode you can use to quickly check the values, the Working Gray one in photoshop is pretty accurate.
http://www.artofscholes.com/checkingvalues
or the threshold filter if you meant actual black and white, not grayscale.

anyone know where I can get refs for 'elegant' women posing?
like in simple-looking but expensive clothing or evening dresses, not explicitly lewd, vaguely risque formal stuff.
google keeps showing me ads for ebay knock-offs or older/black women

>>6996017
You destroyed the line balance, you made smaller forms have thicker lines which looks bad

>>6996040
Thanks

>>6995388
You didn't get the first lessons ofc it doesnt make sense
Reread the book intro part about absorbing complexity and what skipping development stages does

What are some small things I can do as a /beg/ to develop a style? Things that won't be too detrimental to my fundamentals, but will still allow me to get some small milage. Even if it's marginal. I don't feel quite ready to do style studies yet, but I can somewhat understand the logic behind some stylistic decisions.

>>6996035
Ah this is incredibly interesting and helpful. Thank you!

Hairy

>>6996078
Make it fluffier

>>6996038
here is a white 1

>>6996038

Tried drawing a drake, what do you think?

Ozap
Thanks to the nice folk last thread, I really value the advice, meant to say :)
Here's the Groundskeeper

>>6996093
The scales should follow the shape of the dragon instead of just pointing down

>>6996093
Try to work on values, pick a light source. The shading doesn't imply a scaly surface. I would avoid using the airbrush until you can block out values.

>>6995957
By doing a lot of boring and frustrating exercises until drawing in perspective becomes easy and intuitive.

>>6995752

>>6996038
I guarantee you there's shitload of photos you beed Pinterest, but I can't help you with keywords. It's worth creating an account, their image search is good.

this is kind of an art server if anyone wants to join. It's dyin a little but we mostly just vibe and do shared canvases every so often:
https://discord.gg/a4BKfweG

>>6996081
>>6996092
thanks
>>6996101
thanks yeah pinterest looks promising, like istock

So I tried to make a sunburst explosion based off this art from M:TG

I'm wondering if I should make the center of it more transparent, right now it looks kind of more like a sun and less like an explosion of light

>>6996123
Make it more transparent and reduce the orange circle in thickness

I have no idea of what am doing or why I'm even doing it

does any one else feel discouraged? I took a break from drawing for 6 months and it breaks my heart ai art has exploded... drawing is my source of joy and I hate to see my efforts not appreciated. Just wanna draw some waifus but technology is bugging me... what keeps you guys on?
>pyw
my work >>6996160

>>6996169
Sometimes it's hard to get the "motivation" but every time I pick up the pencil and draw anything I have a good time. It's more fun than just sitting in your room and jerking off all day

>>6996169
Drawing is fun. Is a thing I do to amuse myself.

>>6996169
AI art will never make what I want

>>6996169
Seeing my progress, i eventually want to help someone illustrate a story (or DO IT MY SELF).
Little by little i see improvements (and spot more and more mistakes). I keep going 3 steps forward 2 steps back Im slowly crawling my way forward
This is from 2 months ago

question for pen and inkers: how do you prevent amorphous blotting when going for a thick line with a flexible nib? i feel like if i don't speed through the stroke, i end up botching finer details - like the face of the kneeling figure in the top image

>>6996169
I was discouraged by everyone else here telling me I’m NGMI.

>>6996017
Why'd you turn a good reference of a cute girl into an ugly dude

Is it good practice as /beg/ to copy art you like? I'm still using my sighting methods and stuff when doing it, but I feel like I might be copying too much

>>6996234
yes, but only to break down their techniques, not to produce a quality finished piece. For instance, if part of a drawing has a long swooping stroke, it would be better to consider how the artist achieved that in the first place, attempt it, and work with the result, rather than chicken scratching a line that's more accurate to the picture

>>6994962
i feel like my construction is off or something. what's wrong with this

>>6995748
keys to drawing, how to draw what you see, and crilley's two pencil-method.

>>6996263
>Use a better ref
>Spend more time drawing instead of rendering
>Include more hard edges in your rendering. (I did picrel with a mouse so there are only hard edges)
>For some reason you drew the cat tree behind the cat as a part of the cat
Just remember that painting is 90% drawing and you are GMI.

I won’t draw today, either.

>>6996171
>>6996175
>>6996184
>>6996192
>>6996214
Thank you boyos. I will draw again. Drawing is therapeutic for me.

>>6996333
nnnoooo! don’t fall for their tricks!

>>6996333
>I AM THE ONE WHO DRAWS

dpi doesn’t affect anything while drawing right that’s just for printing?

>>6996333
>>6996342
Who are you talking to right now? Who is it that you think you see? Do you know how much I study a year? I mean, even if I tell you, you wouldn’t believe it. Do you know what happens if I suddenly decide to stop posting my work? A thread bumped enough it could be listed on page one goes belly-up. Gone. It ceases to exist without me. No, you clearly don’t know who you’re talking to so let me clue you in. I am not a crab, Skylar. I am going to make it. A guy opens the thread and posts "I will not draw today.", and you think that of me? No. I am the one who draws.

>>6996333
>I did it for me. I was good at it.

>>6996349
Need something being measured in inches to have dots per inch.

>>6996233
Because god guides my hand
Why did you try to sage a general lol

>>6995388
Alright, because i have no idea what that is.

Also made another drawing yesterday, princess goblin from world of final fantasy on a more princess-like outfit.

>>6996321
Ayoooo.
My man. Thats breety geewd.
Try to sharpen up some shadows around the clavicle and in the earlobe to gib it a crispyer look

>>6996078
The bush is flat, I'm a connoisseur, trust me.

doing gestures leave me feeling soulless and wondering if i'm even learning anything

>>6996350

>>6996396
Same
So I stopped altogether

>>6996321
Lovely work, I agree with the other anon, just needs to be sharpened in a few areas

>>6996310
good advice

>>6996208
use the blotting to your advantage

>>6996192
very cool gun slinger design, face could be a bit stronger, keep it up anon, don't worry about the noise

>>6996099
needs more time lol

>>6996094
horror movie/game boss, nice

>>6995965
When going for realism try to only draw what you see rather than what shapes you think should be there, my sketch here is kinda the same where I'm trying to stylize based off the photo ref. You should totally do a full realism study though it's great practice and then try to do the same quick sketch afterwards you'll be surprised how different it'll look on the second attempt after realism

>>6996426

>>6996093
Cool drake anon. Don't bother with airbrush shading like that. It never looks good. I'm not in to creature design so anatomy is just pure bullshit but i think lower limbs should be more massive to weight all that mass. Also when you texture something like scales that are basically 3d forms i'ts good to show that in contures.

>>6996396
Gestures are good if you want to get general idea across as quick as possible. Don't think about it as an accurate representation of something, but think about what is the most important thing about the subject (figure or object) you want to show. It can be a motion, form deformation, or the way lines create a beautiful pattern or flow.
If you want an accurate figure, just draw longer poses and do actual construction.

>>6996350
>Ayo Mr. White. I think I found a way to get drawing gains fast, yo. You ever heard of Draw-a-box?

>>6996457
>NO JESSE. IT'S A /BEG/ TRAP. WHOEVER TOLD YOU THAT IS A CRAB, JESSE. A CRAB.

How to color like this? Looks random(?) but it works

Any pointers on value studies? Painting feels impossible for me, but I'm going to keep trying. What should I work on?

>>6996463
I think you could color like this if you tried coloring even once. This is very basic. Just try it.

>>6996463
I don't think it works, but maybe you can start with ambient occlusion and then shade based on what direction the plane is facing rather than actively thinking about the direction of light.

ended up doing my own thing instead of following the gesture... i don't know if i'm doing it right but at least it doesn't feel too stiff i think

>>6996385
I forgot to delete it from a previous thread

the music i listen to makes my art sexier

>>6995338
I realised that I am burned out from drawing endless head shapes and I got sloppy.
I decided to give myself a break and focus on facial features I was afraid of the most: eyes and lips. Going to try different approaches. Here I focused on lines and next I'm going to try to focus on shapes and blending them. Or something like that, I don't know, I feel like I am talking out of my ass. I'm just going to practice more.
I also just wanted to draw some cool eyes.

>>6996463
what do you mean "random"?

>>6996263
Looking at the negative space is a good way to find inconsistencies in your proportion.
>>6996473
No more scratching anon. If a line doesn't look good, erase it and try again. Long loose lines that capture FLOW, remember that. And don't stop at one. Make many, preferably timed.
>>6996506
You're focusing too much on individual hair detail. Don't look at hair as individual strands, but as values and larger shapes. There's also no rhyme or reason to any of the linework you're doing. Overall I recommend making studies of artists you wish to emulate. You're not getting much out of drawing blindly.

>>6996539
>You're focusing too much on individual hair detail. Don't look at hair as individual strands, but as values and larger shapes.
I fully understand the words you are saying, but I have no idea what this means in practice. I guess I get it in cases when there's lots of hair. But with eyelashes I am lost.
>There's also no rhyme or reason to any of the linework you're doing.
I don't bother with making linework look good right now. I am too beg for this, for now I try to just copy what I see.

Sketch of a bust for game I’m thinking of
Idk, never really done anything like a game before

I love this place, I hate this place
>>6995305
Comfy
>>6996094
>>6996192
Very cool

>>6996581
Love the way you drew her head

>>6996169
Hatred. Also nice study

>>6996561
You traced a picture with scribbles, then say you weren't concerned about the linework? So what was the point? You learned nothing. I'm not sure what you were actually doing those past four weeks >>6995338 but you gained nothing from it. Now that I look at it, you definitely traced that face too. Please unlearn everything you think you know so far and start from the beginning, anon, for your own good. Download these books >>6995315 and start with fun with a pencil. Drill the concepts into your brain.

>>6996612
Didn't put a single line over the reference. Which is clearly evident by numerous mistakes. I do try to match the reference as close as possible and redraw it numerous times to learn precision, however. Why the meltdown?

>>6996582
It reminds me of that bat from anastasio cartoon (by fox) except chonky

>>6996635
You want to be better? Take the criticism on the chin and be humble. This wasn't achieved at your skill level.

>>6996635
>>6996658
busted

>>6996635
>>6996658

>>6996658
Anon, I know that I don't trace and your post isn't going to change reality. So I don't know what you want to achieve. As I stated, I redraw initial sketch dozens times until it looks as close to ref as I can achieve. I picked it up from Krenz precision training lessons from anime general. And the bootom line is your advice "forget everything hurrr" is pointless platitudes and crabbing. I am not insinuating that my drawing looks good, and I agree that my lines are scribbles right now, it's obvious. But I know that it's my best drawing of eyes right now and my next one will be better. Do you have any actually worthwhile advice on how to make it look better, aside from linework? I have all Loomis books downloaded and read them, but I am not magically drawing better after just reading theory. My original post was complaining about the fact that the material I read and watched doesn't have practice laid out.

>>6996506
do you have brain damage

>>6996681
Awesome!
Is this finished to you or is it just a sketch?

>>6996681
is nice

>>6996684
Listen man, you do whatever you want. I'm not here to help a self-crab get out of the pot. Good luck.

>>6996687
these days, this is finished to me. plus this stage always looked best to me anyway.
>>6996688
thank you

Should i bother returning to my practice if i quit four times before and haven't really learnt much?
I'd be going back with the mindset that i know nothing and re-do the basics starting with Loomis.
I promise to get on it right away as soon as i'm finished with the dinner

>>6996706
>starting with Loomis.
you already fucked up

>>6996706
if ur gonna go back to drawing after repeatedly quitting just draw whatever u think is cool u dont need good proportions or know jack shit about anything to make something badass all u gotta know about is lighting and composition. if u got bored of practicing boxes and heads all the time but wanna get better, draw the head however shitty u want then try to copy a cool lighting u find on google. "cool lighting head portrait" or whatever.

>>6996684
>best drawing

>>6996706
should I bother drawing

Perfect example of when not to help crabs.

Overlapping shapes are harder to draw

>>6996713
Too bad to do any of it, its literally on a little baby holding pen for the first time level. I need the fundies to do anything fun.
>>6996722
I'm gonna do it either way but fair enough, Is Loomis a good starter? I really dislike Keys to Drawing but idk maybe they are better, never got far.

>>6996713
>>6996706
this is an example of what im talkin about i drew this with my mouse on purpose the proportions are fucked up but it even still it looks more badass than a regular fucked up head and its just a regular guy if you draw a space marine or cowboy or whatever u think is cool its only gonna be that more badass. you obviously dont wanna practice fundies so dont bother just try to make something badass u like so u dont quit again

>>6996691
So you don't have a single thing to say, but "forget everything start it all again its over doom". Totally not a crab, yeah. I'll go and draw more and you can keep crabbing I guess.
>>6996722
>>best drawing
My other drawings are even worse, simple as.

>>6996727
what is bro doing here

>>6996740
Literally could not do it though.
If i could make stuff that i like i would just do it and not care but i can't so i need fundies.
I don't like learning but i assume its a hurdle you just need to get through. My dopamine receptors are so fried i barely get fun out of drawing for fun though even though i do like it. Its just hard to do anything that isn't instant immediate and powerful shot of feelgood chemicals like games or pornography or substances.

>>6996748
post something youve drawn

>>6996753
This is from two months ago

>>6996756
you can definitely do what im suggesting ur at a more than competent level to just start drawing for fun now just stop thinking about it like its school and draw some badass stuff

>>6996759
Fair enough.
I will just do fundies and fun at a 40/60 ratio

>>6996739
>I need the fundies to do anything fun.
fun comes from drawing whatever you want, fundies are for those times when whatever you want is tanks or pornography.
I've been drawing dumb shit on 4chan for years to cope with things and the only thing that changed was how many people like the output, I still feel the same except I'm now seething about imaginary numbers sometimes.

10 min copy of dbz, i hope to draw backgrounds as well as ToeiGODS one day

>>6996658
kek

>>6996767
I want to draw cool shit that requires fundies so it seems only natural that i should know fundies.
You couldn't do picrel with fun alone

>>6996774
you absolutely could, thats maybe one of the worst examples you could have given lol

>>6996774
This was drawn with fun from enjoyment of the human body, it was drawn with taste, not accuracy.

>>6996777
yeah but i couldn't do it no matter how much i enjoyed the process, becuase it requires skill as well

>>6996595
disgusting off model used up only fans looking skank

Verification not required.

>>6996169
>what keeps you guys on?
Obsession
Frustration
Wanting to show all them that they were wrong
Not wanting any compromise
Art is my fucking battle of Shiroyama
I'm going to die on the barrels of progress, face in the ground, for I will not devalue any minute, any second, of the life I have devoted to the search of beauty
Fuck you, fuck ai, fuck the world, fuck reasons, fuck making it, fuck failure, I am a fucking artist and I want to die as a fucking artist

>>6996784
you would slowly pick up the landmarks through mileage alone, you could get to this level with little to no deliberate practice

>>6996786
i remember being 16. Impotent rage only gets you so far, then you start ruining your own progress.

>>6996791
it would take significantly longer

>>6996794
are you 60 or planning to die next week? what's the rush

>>6996670
My fucking sides

any advice

Drew this earlier. It's not great but at least it's something.

Kinda tired right now but I've been drawing since late September. My grasp of things is still limited and this took me about 90 minutes or so to draw?

>>6996793
I'm fucking 40 pal

>>6996786
Holy fucking cringe, anon.

>>6994962

>>6996539
>No more scratching anon. If a line doesn't look good, erase it and try again. Long loose lines that capture FLOW, remember that. And don't stop at one. Make many, preferably timed.
it's a habit i'm trying to stop but i end up scratching the fuck out of my doodles and i guess that goes into the gestures kek
i ordered a sketchbook as anon sugested last thread to use a paper/pencil, hopefully i have more confidence with traditional and stop with it

>>6996785
the heck you mean?

>>6996809
then you should take what I said as an indicator that you have some serious introspection to do.

>>6996786

>>6996833
sadamoto girls are slender and elegant.
cow tits and comically wide hips are NOT ALLOWED.

>Verification still not required.

Sup beg, i think i will alter my permabeg study style: i will redline my memory attempts utilizing the mirrored canvas trick.

>>6996803
one way how to cope with such messy style of lines is to use harder pencil (HB, H) and when you are "done" you pick up sharpie or ballpoint and finalize the drawery with ink
>>6996714
solid studies
>>6996681
i kneel
>>6996595
coomable, but it looks like WIP (lack of saturated colors or shading)
>>6996582
pro
>>6996468
SOFT EDGES. also notice how the cast shadows have 2 values in them
>>6996386
value refers to how light/dark a color is. value range TLDR is to ensure your picture looks good even when it is turned out grayscale. All your stuff has same weakness: you dont use whole range of values and it isnt a stylistic decision you made, it is lack of fundie in your skill set
>>6996263
the only complain i would make is how you made the catto less fluffy (paint over edges with fuzzy brush with high opacity to make it FLUFF)
>>6996234
yes. that is what master studies are called for and quite a few artists say it is the only study you need to do
>>6996166
she looks like she molests human underaged boys
>>6996048
imagine child asking teacher about how to develop his unique signature when the class is about hand writing. you already have a style. by default. the only issue is when your style is ugly, but that is silly to worry about as beg
>>6995968
nice booba
>>6995957
draw cityscapes, cars, planes, squeeze figures into boxes and then foreshorten the boxes in extreme perspective
>>6995829
>>6995744
>>6995723
>practice observation
>decide you hit diminishing returns and start studying construction / drawing from memory
>WTF it is not the same thing?
I kinda dont understand the seethe i generate by simply existing. I am trying to breach into /INT, practicing one of the hardest subject ever to draw and half the /beg is REEEing at me for not instantly being as good at it as i when i was just copying 1:1 from references
>>6995778
stealth pro

>>6996854
your brush size is too thick

>>6996854
>one way how to cope with such messy style of lines is to use harder pencil (HB, H) and when you are "done" you pick up sharpie or ballpoint and finalize the drawery with ink

i'll try that. I actually ordered an dip pen online. I'll just wait for it to arrive so I can actually do finalized line art

>>6996847
Anon, i'm not aspiring to Sadamoto godly art. This pic you posted is amazing but this my way of doing it. It's fanart after all. I get your dissatisfaction.
Thanks for being honest.

>>6996854
Yep it's still wip

>>6996595
Nice form

>>6996859
Yeah, kinda hard to get any subtlety across with such a large brush.
It’s good to lay out the bigger forms but if you wanna do proper linework it’s like writing in capslock or something

>>6996834
Nah, you can keep your pretend common sense for you, I'm not gay enough to need it

This webpage is a waste of time full of cucks, trannies, sissies, gays and other retards. I will go draw.

Time to actually render I'm scared

>>6996786
fax

>>6996900
That fucking nose make it look like a parody or something

>>6996640
Saw that one ages ago, love the animation
>>6996854
>pro
Not in a million years at this rate, nice studies

>>6996900
lewd, nose is hot

>>6996928
Sucks for you
>>6996931
Hell yeahhhh

>>6996786
Based and GMIpilled. When crabs are seething, you know you are onto something.

>>6995777
>>6995649
>>6995589
Thanks for the feedback, anons. It seems so obvious that the proportions and construction were messing them up. I tried again in picrel with 2 minutes each, focusing on proportions. i'm not expecting to fix it all so quickly, but hopefully I'm headed in the right direction here.

>>6996035
so is this the idea behind people coloring like in this vid? To add better clarity/readability of the art piece before going hard into the color and lighting?

https://youtu.be/3OQeRLwipi4?t=80

>>6996581
>>6996584
thnx
I tried coloring it. I always use muddy colors for some reason. I hate painting so much
The tiles are a bit too saturated for this I think idk

I think I get hard carried by rendering lol

This is my first real render (That didn't fall flat on its face)
Uogh.

>>6994746
What? How long is this going to take? I've done observational drawings before. I can't follow vilppu's instructions if I always get different angles trying to memorize the pose.

i think his hair looks kinda weird, opinions??

>>6997031
I like it a lot. I also like her a lot.

>>6997032
him akstually

however, thank you, happy skeleton as a response

Don't know if I'm going to finish this, mostly was just a test of sketching on paper, then taking an image of it and using that in clip studio.
Crits would be welcome as it was done from imagination and I feel like the anatomy doesn't make 100% sense

>>6997022
Good job on rendering the whole scene. You are better than me (all my characters exist in a blank void) The colours are nice

>>6996681
holy shit man. Cool.

>>6997023
you never really stop improving observation I think

>>6997056
>Good job on rendering the whole scene
I skipped out on a lot because it's so overwhelming and I also do Not care
I need to render so much
And putting characters in rooms helps with shit not looking flat because of ambient light/reflection

Here's my attempt at redlining. I like her a lot. I feel like you could have easily avoided this if you slowed down.
I hesitated to draw muscles on her arms but I just noticed the file name, you should give her more meat.

>>6997031
Looks cool, if you want it to look less uniform try
>giving lower locks denser hatching, higher ones lighter hatching
>hatching from either end of the lock and leaving that white streak along the middle like in the animes
>hardening the outer edges
>blackening the areas around the neck
Don't have to do all of these, always worth experimenting though if you're not satisfied

I know I've fucked this heavily but can anyone with an eye for this tell me where so I can fix it? I used sren244 tatsumaki cosplay as my reference. (ignore the lack of head, left arm , and hand I suck at drawing those and am working on it. also ran outta space)
>>6996805
cute Rebecca

do we have someting like sketchdaily? they have so few references

Ohayo /beg/. Today I did what's most comfortable for me, inking. I made a lot of mistakes and tried new things that didn't really work too well, but, decided to keep going because there's no time like the present brother.

>>6997082
Honestly the worst parts are the ones that you're scared to show us, waist up. Try drawing the full figure this time, mapping out how it's going to fit on the page. It'll benefit you to not shy away from a full figure.
>>6997056
>>6997070
Stylish. I like his redline.
>>6997062
>>6997019
I appreciate you showing part of the process.
>>6997031
Careful with the hairline, it's receding. Other guy's crits were top tier.
>>6997022
>>6997008
Hmm, colors look dull. I don't fuck with colors so apologies for not knowing how to fix that.
>>6996945
Some improvement. Consider replicating >>6996727, they use minimal amount of lines while conveying good form. Look at how they do legs.
>>6996854
I believe in you Pawell kun.
>>6996824
Love your stuff. Can't believe you got bullied out of posting toolbar by /ic/ kek. Probably for the best so some wacko doesn't dox you.
>>6996805
Stiff pose and anatomy. Even if your knowledge is limited, you can still make a fun dynamic piece!
>>6996803
>>6996830
You guys have decent design, now it's time to skillmax.
>>6996714
>>6996714
Your dudes are a bit too round in their anatomy.
>>6996681
Sick.
>>6996673
>>6996078
Have you tried coloring yet?
>>6996595
Hand looks much better this time, but could still use improvement. Everything else I really like tho!
>>6996582
Holy moly.
>>6996505
Whatever keeps you motivated!
>>6996427
Elegant.
>>6996386
Cute. Needs shadows.
>>6996321
Cool. Reminded me I'm lonely. Very nice.
>>6996263
You didn't take into account the shapes of the chin and whisker parts.
>>6996208
I'd say make a thin outline around the large shape, then fill it in with thin strokes. If you're doing smaller details use a smaller pen.
>>6996192
The more I look at it the more I love it.

>>6997022
your skill is good but your style disgusts me wtf is that nose, no wtf is that face

>>6997156
>Hmm, colors look dull. I don't fuck with colors so apologies for not knowing how to fix that
My style of rendering and that other anon's style are completely different, bruh. I don't know what to do with this information.
>>6997160
I want to have sex with his nose, sorry about that.

some lil changes i made, i kinda noticed what makes the hair look kinda rare, but today its not quite my day, so ill try to fix it tomorrow or in a couple hours if i feeling inspired

>>6997191
that btw

>>6997082
>>6997156
I just hate drawing heads and hands. they keep looking wrong no matter what. especially fingers as they use subtle lines which gives me the biggest trouble. I don't know how to give a line a slight curve that doesn't fullon commit to being round as hell. I don't know its just frisky n all. I'll give it a go again.
drew a nagatoro in the meantime. I tried to remake the nagatoro by momiji and attempted the tanlines. thinking about it I should have taken a picture before adding the tan as I think it looks weird now. added a drawing of my hand I did. shits rough

>>6997031
Hair just looks extremely detailed, compared to rest of the simplified face. If this isn't what you were going for, you can try simplify it too or add more detail to face. But I am beg, so what do I know

>>6994962
I searched for "Fox jumping" as a reference. First image I see is a fucking AI image.
Are you fucking kidding me? I can't even search for foxes without AI being shoved in my face? I am going to have a fucking conniption, /ic/, I swear to god

>>6996748
NTA but if you already understand primitive forms and have basic spatial awareness you can construct whatever bullshit you want from your imagination or from reference and sculpt forms on the canvas like clay. It doesn't matter if it looks like shit, just fix your mistakes when you spot them and have fun. If you really want to grind fundies exercises then you should have the goal of making that process you're grinding enjoyable and usable in your art instead of treating it as a pointless obstacle that's in the way.

still very /beg/ but this is the first thing i've ever drawn that i feel proud of. figured i'd post it.

>>6997252
Congrats! Good luck on your artistic journey, and join /dad/ if you want a little bit of extra motivation to improve

Bridgman. This is gonna take a while.
>>6997022
Congrats, looks pretty good
>>6996824
That’s pretty cool, anon
>>6996727
Looking good!
>>6996673
Marge?
>>6996582
That’s an excellent hand
>>6996505
I usually listen to ufo podcasts. I wonder if it comes through somehow
>>6996468
Practice boxes, add cast shadows. Otherwise just keep practicing the value breakdowns. Then learn edges.
>>6996442
Good textures. Dragon forelimb looks weird, but idk what dragons look like irl
>>6996166
Jesus, she’s so smug
>>6995859
>I want you all to gmi
Th-thanks, you too
>>6995814
Based, keep it up. The studies labeled “lats” and “bigger” show you’re starting to feel the form
>>6995778
These are great
>>6995773
Your rendering far outpaces your drawing. I’d focus on drawing fundies for a bit. Good job, proud of you for actually drawing real stuff and not just studies like me lol
>>6995732
Anatomy For Sculptors might be what you’re looking for
>>6995719
Not bad, fren. Could use more dynamism. Good perspective
>>6995680
nice job, anon. Much better values
>>6995570
Push values, use some hard edges
>>6995027
Yeah, looks a little cross eyed like anon said. Otherwise great
>>6995131
I like her eyes
>>6995278
Hard to assess due to wild variation in styles. I really like the taco Tuesday one lol
>>6995382
Great job on the sweater, very 3D
>>6995622
I’m bothered by how much I like this
>>6995649
Nice studies
>>6995775
Kek
>>6995851
It’s not bad. Maybe needs more dynamic range in the values, but it’s really fine imo. I’d be psyched to get this for Christmas
>>6995968
Clean lines, but maybe lacking contrapposto
>>6995992
Huh, cool
>>6996427
Very nice
>>6996945
Good cross-contours, anon
>>6997008
Looks good to me
>>6997019
That’s a good enough drawing I don’t think rendering carries you very much
>>6997156
Lovely inking, esp. her skirt and panties and everything else
>>6997199
Yeah, hands are hard. Real hard
>>6997252
Based, GMI. Keep going

Still life drawing in progress, advice needed. Is there any cheat code to judging values? Or the methods of squinting, and comparing two areas are perfectly enough?

This shit is very taxing on my brain, though im not used to doing it


>>6997252
thats cool!
>>6997191
cool! improved!
>>6996979
Yes, but I heavily disagree presonally on coloring from a greyscale paitning to colored painting. Marco Bucci and Sinix Design made videos about why its bad. Tho many artists do it that way so theres that, maybe some dont see problem.

>>6997299
Also, what is a good workflow to fill in values? Filling and drawing the values I did took 1 hour alone, I feel like I will be working on this forever.

>>6997299
>Cheat code to judging values
Are you using a value scale? If you have 5 values to start off with, you can block out big areas and only worry about smaller changes towards the end

just finished this, i suck ass doing backgrounds.

How do I get ellipses in correct perspective?

havent drawn in a minute and thinkin this turned out worse than the draw along steve one I did last time. at least I did something for once wooo!!!

>>6997019 Lovely
>>6997156 Based tradchad, great drawing and nice sense of volume
>>6997283 Great studies here

>>6997156
It's >>6996805

I could have but I kinda rushed myself into making it. Maybe next time I draw her I'll go for a more dynamic pose.

And I can actually do that to an extent, but I just wanted to try just drawing her standing to see what I could do...and I think I captured her relatively well so next time I'll do something more fun with her.

>>6997349
Picrel is giving the answer, if you look closer, will see the cubes used to draw them.

>>6997341
Break through the pain and come out the other side friend.

You'll get there.

someone bake

>>6997349
you find the major axis of the ellipse. The lines perpendicular to that is the depth of the cylinder. Your image visually shows that process.

>>6996506
As promised, I redrew it, this time with bigger hard brushes and tried some blending. This is my second attempt at drawing values and blending them digitally. It was actually a lot of fun. I like the result and the only thing that I strongly dislike is how lashes and shade on the left is blending together into one monolith color. But I only noticed it at the very end and honestly got tired for today and I am leaving this mistake. Maybe the choice of values is lacking, but I don't see it. So please shit on it so I could see my mistakes.

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