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There hasn't been a thread about this yet. Is it really improved or is it just overfitting existing images?

>> No.6989875

>>6989873
Ask >>>/g/

>> No.6989877

What did it do

>> No.6989880

OMG THE NEW AI MY ART SKILL IS GOING TO GO UP NOW MY ART SKILL GOT A FIRMWARE UPDATE YESSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>> No.6989891
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6989891

We still should discuss when the newest cutting edge generator is released at least for one thread. For example can someone explain how this V6 image is better than V5? I don't get it.
https://twitter.com/runtheprompts/status/1738660848950816850#m

>> No.6989900

can u even add image inputs to midjourney?

>> No.6989904

>>6989873
This is unironically a question for /g/. They're on point with software and will explain every nook and cranny to you. They're also better "artists" than permabeg nodraws and ai tool schizos here.

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>>6989891
Right isn't more impressive visually but it looks more like GTA V in terms of colours and atmosphere, left looks like a weird mix of GTA IV and the last of us. It's as if it only knew "GTA" was a video game about a city and violent crime, and tried to imagine what it's supposed to look like given said information while the newer model actually knows what GTA V is.

>> No.6989990

>>6989873
Can I do lewds with it? I'm not interested otherwise.

>> No.6989994

Don't you love to see anti-ai threads get deleted on sight, but this shit that's completely off-topic stay up for hours?

>> No.6990007

>>6989994
It's a thread about an art program on an art board. What more requirements do you needs?

>> No.6990012

>>6990007
it's for artwork and critique aka the act of making art. what you are looking for is a board about generating art aka /g/

>> No.6990014

>>6989891
the right is literally that meme of luigi death stare what the fuck

>> No.6990042

>>6990007
*art theft program

>> No.6990048

>>6989873
post the one with the joker screencap that's a near 1:1 copy

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>>6990048
>b-but it learns just like a human does.

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>>6990121
>no you're using it wrong! Stop exposing our theft device REEE

>> No.6990152

>>6989994
This is about the newest Midjourney. I checked the catalog and there isn't one for it. I'm not making a gazillion AI threads. This is fairly important news.

>>6990014
Thank you I was unaware of that meme. So is there more overfitting going on? MJ does not have OpenAIs budget.

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>>6990135

>> No.6990161

>>6990152
Go to >>>/g/ stupid cunt. We don't want you here.

>> No.6990173

>>6990121
>>6990135
>>6990154
This is ethical btw.

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I'm doing a google search of any Midjourney images I see. This one also looks similar though could be coincidence.

>> No.6990206

AI is cool and all but why would you keep shoving it down people's throat when they clearly hate it? Blatant crabbing. No other explanation.

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6990234

Wow what a wonderful "tool"

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>>6990234
It doesn't store images in image formats! don't sue me bro!
>neither do zip files

>> No.6990253

>>6990152
>I checked the catalog and there isn't one for it.
should have tipped you off that no one fucking cares. this isn't art related.
>I'm not making a gazillion AI threads.
this excuse would be like me posting goatse on /toy/ and saying it's fine because I only posted it once.
>This is fairly important news.
For who? not the artwork/critique board, that's for certain.

>> No.6990256

>>6990152
Did you try checking the /g/ catalog you fucking retard >>>/g/98061080

>> No.6990273

>>6990256
that thread was made 5 hours after this one
we always discuss Midjourney after it updates to a new whole digit.

>> No.6990368

>>6990273
Nah. We don't.

>> No.6990373

>>6990190
That one is a bit of a stretch, Cuckstation didn't invent paintings of medieval alchemists.

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>>6990234
>>6990154
>>6990135
>>6990121
That's such a stupid argument. If you commissioned someone to draw a painting of an exact frame of a famous movie scene and the artist delivered exactly that, would they act all butthurt and indignant?

>> No.6990378

>>6990375
That is not the issue. the issue is AI companies say they do not store copyright images, therefore no infringement. But they do store the image, lossy storage is still storage. Google specifically got a waiver to show images on google results after being sued. Midjourney has no such thing, and can't since they are for profit, the users getting these images are paying for them.

>> No.6990383

>>6990378
Obviously they don't store the images, it's all learning data until you generate them, then it becomes an stored image but they are transformative enough since they are generated from random noise, notice how none of them are the exact same images. In theory you could generate infinite versions of that single Joker frame and none of them would be the exact same since they are generated from infinite random noise.

>> No.6990385

>>6990383
What did I say about lossy?
it's compressing the images. when you zip an image, it's not storing the image in the zip file, it is the zip file. transformative.
but in law, 'transformative use' refers to a new use. the use is transformed. not just 'an image is transformed into an image' to use in the same relative way as the original.

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>>6990385
>lossy
lol you clearly don't know how the AI actually works, let me help you.

>> No.6990389

>>6990388
That's just another way of storing data. it's now vectors. cool. still lossy storage.
the meta tags help retrieve the OG data. if you only have one dog image in your AI, you only get that one dog when you prompt dog.

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>>6990389
>it's now vectors
Again, that's not how it works. SD is open source so you can go take a look at how it actually works. OH WAIT you won't because you have no clue about any of this. Midjourney, DALL-E 3 and all the other image generators work on the same principle as SD.

>> No.6990397

>>6990389
*just to be clear, I'm saying overfitting is like lossy storage, not generative AI as a whole(though it uses parts of lossily stored images at times.)

>> No.6990398

>>6990395
What is latent space?

>> No.6990400
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>> No.6990426

>>6990375

AI aint gonna fuck you anon.

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>>6989873
Nip have already made their decision
time for the US and UK to make theirs

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>>6990042

why you gatekeeping

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>>6990121
I mean...

>> No.6990516

>>6990438
...You mean what? That's fan art, stylized at that, not a 1:1 copy.

>> No.6990520

>>6990375
Technically DC could sue you into oblivion for selling fan art. Midjourney is a paid service.
>But their terms of service
They're willingly accepting money for letting you feed illegal prompts into their stealing machine.

>> No.6990522

>>6990434
How did she do her egirl makeup with no hands

>> No.6990559

>>6990516
lol, lmao even

>> No.6990564

>MJ v6 now has enough image understanding to almost perfectly recreated any popular characters
>"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THAT'S LITERALLY COPYRIGHTED AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA"
You know you can just not prompt a copyrighted character, right?
Do you also scream at photoshop because it gives you the ability to create copyrighted images?
lol.

>"I PROMPTED MICKEY MOUSE AND IT GAVE ME EXACTLY WHAT I ASKED FOR!!!!!"
>"AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA MAKE IT STOP IT'S HURTING THE BIG COMPANIES"

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>>6990564
>prompts "afghan girl" because I am a girl in afganistan wanting a cover for my book
>looks great
>publish
>sells well
>6 months later OG finds it
>must pay damages wtf? midjourney-sama!!!

>> No.6990568

>>6990566
*make that "from". idk if afganistan cares about copyright. the photographer does, so make the prompter in america for my example.

>> No.6990569

>>6990566
>Doesn't post the actual prompt used
No evidence, yet again. img2img or prompting specifically for a certain image is my guess.
Also, I can still see your discord name through the black bar

>> No.6990571

>>6990559
Ok crabby

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>>6990569
that wasn't my screenshot.

>> No.6990574

>>6990569
>Artists getting banned on Midjourney for generating copyrighted material to prove that MJ v6 is a stealing machine
T-there's no evidence!

>> No.6990576

>>6990573
>Prompted specifically for the copyrighted image
You just proved my point. If you prompt specifically for a copyrighted image, that's your responsibility, not MJ lol.
If you use photoshop to create a copy of a copyrighted image, would you hold adobe accountable for that or the user?

>> No.6990578

>>6990576
My point is it can happen innocently on the side of the prompter. You don't know every combination of words that might lead to a copyright image. someone unaware of some character might like the result, not knowing it's from some cartoon already, and use it commercially. It would be an oversight on the users behalf too, using a plagiarism machine has risks of course....

>> No.6990581

>>6990578
>My point is it can happen innocently on the side of the prompter
I still have not seen any evidence for this, though.
Every time I ask someone to post proof of their claim I get the same thing as your screenshot, someone specifically prompting for a copyrighted image, then getting exactly what they asked.

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>>6990432
You know reading this it's sets a precedent that no can give a fuck about using any IP to sell.
So companies that gave their IPs as "training data" basically gonna let anyone make copies than
>might as well legalize and get rid their restrictions on torrenting than
truly gonna be the best time for video pirating honestly

>> No.6990591

>>6990581
you could get that image without specifically trying, in theory. the prompt there on the right is "afghan girl, high detail, by award-winning photograper, plush"
"award-winning photograper" is an extremely common prompt to use.
Maybe this hasn't happened 'for real' yet, but it doesn't seem outside the ream of possibility, it's only been a year since they were coherent enough to use commercially.

>> No.6990593

>>6990576
>your responsibility
How can Midjourney generate the exact same image without the original artist's consent? How is it not their responsibility too? This is lame as fuck.

>> No.6990596

>>6990593
Midjourney is just the tool

>> No.6990598

>>6990596
This is disingenuous, Midjourney is not just a tool, it's the whole fucking workshop plus the people working in it. Users are just idea guys and are also required to pay for the workshop to steal with impunity.

>> No.6990606

>>6990591
>the prompt there on the right is "afghan girl, high detail, by award-winning photograper, plush"
The prompt is actually cut off, so it's very likely that the prompt is actually
>afghan girl, high detail, by award-winning photograper Steve McCurry
See what I mean when I say that no one can post actual evidence? It's always either a cut off prompt or no prompt at all.

>> No.6990609

>>6990598
People calling AI "just a tool" have always been disingenuous pricks

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>>6990606
>See what I mean when I say that no one can post actual evidence? It's always either a cut off prompt or no prompt at all.
well, you can go to the midjourney discord to verify this if you like. I just took the screenshot right now.

>> No.6990618

You guys, both sides, are *still* fighting about this, with the same arguments, YEARS LATER. Aren't you bored?

>> No.6990621

>>699060
NTA but anon...
>afghan girl
>high detail
Besides the name of the photographer it's not exactly that specific of a thing to write.
>plus most prompters have been specifically telling people to use "insert artist name" for prompts
honestly I find the fact most blatantly use it in ways that copyright is nearly assured and that kinda promoted more retarded on their part.
>they even like to admit

>> No.6990625

>>6990432
Also Japan when some rando downloads copyrighted material
5 years prison

>> No.6990633

>>6990618
Not bored, I'm fucking rabid. GAI is not a thing yet so this AI is just a meat grinder that sucks up artists' entire life work for the benefit of a few corporate overlords. I NEED to vent with strangers online, it's the next best thing to straight up walking to Sam Altman and shoving a pike up his ass until it comes straight out of his stupid head. It's for the benefit of mankind.t

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>>6989994
>Don't you love to see anti-ai threads get deleted on sight, but this shit that's completely off-topic stay up for hours?
You want to know why anti AI threads get nuked on sight? Because the board semi-unanimously agreed every anti AI thread is a falseflagging AI thread, they get mass reported or blown out by jannies. Same thing would happen with these, if it wasnt for the fact people are actively engaging with the conversation even if they dont like it.

Faggots cant simply report and move along. No, they have to engage in the totally organic discussion this topic always brings up as if they have never read the very same arguments over and over again.

>> No.6990645

>>6990633
based

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>>6990014
nobody with any computer literacy takes any of this shit seriously whatsoever. think of it as how GTA6 is for videogames. anodyne for literal, no hyberbole, bottom of the barrel retards. Before, making fake screenshots of IPs was for entertainment and comedy, now people are claiming iphone meme app tier programs are the second ren of art

>> No.6990654

How do I remove ai from my google image searches?

>> No.6990655

>>6990654
setup a filter with one of the many free and open source ad-block plugins

>> No.6990724

>>6990434
>pro-AI Xfag
>tranny flag
Everytime

>> No.6990733

>>6990633
based reasonable and measured response poster

>> No.6990773

>>6990614
on the other hand, if you ask an "artist" to make "picture of an afghan girl" with a tight deadline he will probably use google, find this picture, trace it and give you the result.
fortunately most of the time it's so bad you will not use it

>> No.6990782

>>6990375

No, because the "data" for that painting was recreated and never existed before, while AI literally takes the pixel data bit by bit to recreate your prompt
You're never going to get it because you're subhuman, but scalping data and recreating another interpretation of that data by looking at it is not the fucking same. One steals existing information, one recreates it with new information.

>> No.6990789

>>6990566
>>prompts "afghan girl" because I am a girl in afganistan wanting a cover for my book
You can afford a high end GPU but can't afford a cheap camera to do a selfie of yourself?

>> No.6990829

>>6990782
That's not how it works.

>> No.6990830

>>6990789
Anti-A.I.fags aren’t known for their understanding of logic, otherwise they wouldn’t be artist

>> No.6990833

.

>> No.6991002

>>6989873
neck yourself

>> No.6991005

>>6990830
techbros aren't known for their long-term planing skills

>> No.6991035

>>6990829
>>6990830
Then prove it

>> No.6991038

>>6991035
You first.

>> No.6991043

>>6991038
>He can't.
Lmao.

>> No.6991054

>>6990833

>> No.6991060

>>6991005
>n-no u!
Embarrassing

>> No.6991072

>>6991060
so anon how do you feel about Elon buying Twitter than and naming close to being a porn site
>porn also rather topical they're right now

>> No.6991074

>>6991072
>pajeenglish

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>>6989873
it's so over

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>>6989873
Midjourney is gonna get sued into oblivion
this guy got banned for exposing massive copyright infringement
https://twitter.com/Rahll/status/1738429315056885982

>> No.6991127

>>6991110
honestly, I doubt it will happen, we’ve known this was how it worked since the start, boomer judges are too retarded to wrap their heads around it and just make decisions based on which lawyer has stronger jew-jiutsu
what does this bring into the discussion that wasn’t already there?

>> No.6991134

corporations are likely only going to have proper legal precedent to sue if they start using their images to train their own models to sell, or start selling their images for use in other models.
which means it's going to be another streaming service arms race in the near future.

>> No.6991145

>>6991134
that’s not what precedent means, rajesh

>> No.6991146

>>6990830
there's no such thing as "anti AI people", just like there's no such thing as "meat eaters". they're called normal people

>> No.6991201

>>6991145
>he thinks there aren't already laws that forbid stealing trade secrets from another corporation's r&d

>> No.6991209

>>6991201
that’s not what trade secret means either

>> No.6991212

>>6991209
trade secrets is a broader term. what do you think it means, anon?

>> No.6991215

>>6991212
learn english, you fucking faggot
RE is legal, btw, even if we pretend your poo logic stands (protip: no it doesn’t, you fucking retard)

>> No.6991219

>>6991215
reverse engineering your competitor's products to profit from them in the same way your competitors are profiting from them is typically not legal.

>> No.6991221

>>6991145
Nigga what do you think is a legal precedent you pedantic bitch

>> No.6991224

>>6991219
except you wouldn’t be doing it to the ai, but to the dataset, which is derived from publicly available information, you stupid nigger, and as such cannot be a trade secret

>> No.6991226

>>6991224
>which is derived from publicly available information, you stupid nigger, and as such cannot be a trade secret
i don't know what you think trade secrets are, but all trade secrets can be derived from publicly available information.

>> No.6991229

>>6991226
>secret
not being public information is literally the core defining clause of trade secrets, imbecile
a visual design cannot be a trade secret, ever
>inb4 hurr durr
post a visual design legally a trade secret or fuck off

>> No.6991232

>>6991229
>not being public information is literally the core defining clause of trade secrets, imbecile
you're taking it too literally. trade secrets are just not typically displayed as publicly as their counterparts.
nowhere is there a law that says trade secrets must be impenetrable from all forms of reverse engineering. you can have the most lousy forms of protection on your trade secrets and have them still be legally considered trade secrets.

>> No.6991233

>no design
L

>> No.6991238

>>6991233
the argument is about stealing a corporations legally owned works that they intend to use as training data for their models. this isn't about visual designs.
they could use randomly generated numbers as their training data. it doesn't matter what form they come in.
if you directly compete with a corporation by stealing their data for use in your business, it's typically against the law.

>> No.6991239

>>6991238
seriously, learn english, you are not equipped for this
last reply

>> No.6991247

>>6991232
>Trade secret means information, including a formula, pattern, compilation, program, device, method, technique, or process, that:
>(i) derives independent economic value, actual or potential, from not being generally known to, and not being readily ascertainable by proper means by, other persons who can obtain economic value from its disclosure or use, and
>(ii) is the subject of efforts that are reasonable under the circumstances to maintain its secrecy.
Publishing a visual work legally precludes it from being protected as a trade secret, it is the equivalent of publishing a list of ingredients. It’s still an IP, but not a trade secret. If you can deduce something analytically, it is not a trade secret.

>> No.6991252

>>6991247
the images by themselves aren't trade secrets; their usage as training data in models and their role in the model training process can, however, be a trade secret.
>If you can deduce something analytically, it is not a trade secret.
define "analytically". reverse engineering is something a corporation cannot be expected to defend against.
>>6991239
okay zoomer.

>> No.6991262

>>6991252
Are you fucking retarded or what?

>> No.6991264

>>6991262
are you?

>> No.6991298

>>6989994
There was a thread about an AI convention and hardly anyone bought anything because no one gave a shit. Thread was deleted in hours, funny how that works.

>> No.6991314

>>6990830
>>6990789
>what is midjourney?
>Apparently some AIfags just don't know, and think you need a gpu.
lol

>> No.6991315

>>6990789
>can't afford a cheap camera to do a selfie of yourself?
not allowed to take selfies, that's haram. need loopholes like AI pictures.

>> No.6991408

I use AI to generate some ideas to draw. Not midjourney though, it's kinda mid no pun intended
>Wow you resort to using THAT you're no real -
It's the same as looking for ideas through pixiv or booru or twitter. Prove me wrong.

>> No.6991590

>>6991408
Which AI?

>> No.6991605

>>6990400
I didn't notice it's an AI until I saw his fingers, lmfao. Then I noticed the anatomy is all fucked up, wtf.

>> No.6991659

>>6991315
>can't get anyone else to take a photo of you
lmao i can't wait to see what the clarification is when a constructed robot with hands and feet tries to take a photo of a human being

>> No.6991727

>>6989873
Same as before. It stagnated as predicted. NN's are only good for repeatable tasks after all.

>> No.6991728 [DELETED] 

>>6991659
Only the husband can look at her face. Taliban rule there you know

>> No.6991806

>>6991060
I am absolutely right so much so that you have no argument to reply with
protip: it's not a no u if I attribute a different flaw to your side

>> No.6991977

Your days are numberd, two more weeks and you are finished sirs

>> No.6992004

>>6989900
sure

>> No.6992015

I have noticed that if you put something i quotations, it is more likely to accurately add it to the image.

also noticed, there were a few famous movies that v5.2 always did the same pattern for but some seem different

>> No.6992019

>>6992015
>it is more likely to accurately add it to the image.
to add the text i mean

>> No.6992148

>>6989880
This post amused me

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>>6989873
Threadly reminder that proompters are failed artists eternally seething at artists better than them, participation trophies were a mistake and Shadiversity is a weenie.
https://youtu.be/n1VybvjzaK0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTBCzH1UyNY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sNvD8ePFHs

>> No.6992560

>>6989880
yass omg, art stat level up! been waiting so long, picking my nails, for my art to finally get an upgrade

>> No.6992562

>>6990234
leonachos da vintages art isnt really good. has anyone animefied the mona lisa already so i can cum to it? my fingers are tired today so i cant prompt. gotta rest up

>> No.6992566

>>6992321
There are way more people making AI art than there are artists(failed or otherwise) so that can't be true.

>> No.6992570

>>6991110
>Midjourney is gonna get sued into oblivion
>this guy got banned for exposing massive copyright infringement

It basically looks like a Photoshop filter. Last time I looked Adobe was still in business and was not "sued into oblivion" because some random digital "artist" applied a filter on a screenshot.

An "artist" trying to sell stuff like that might get in trouble, for trademark infringement, but that's it.

>> No.6992572

>>6992570
Once again failing to comprehend, why is it so hard for you?
>AI company makes a tool that costs money to use
>they effectively store copyright data and serve it to the users who are paying to use the service.
This is not fine. this is not equivalent to using a filter on a screenshot. This would be like photoshop being distributed with a database of copyright images and letting users pull them out and filter them.

>> No.6992574

>>6992572
I guess you'd be right if you weren't wrong.

>> No.6992577

>>6992574
>you are wrong but I have no argument
Thanks for conceding.

>> No.6992599

>>6990773
No, he will tell you to provide the ref. Ypu don't stay emplyed by ripping off copyrighted material (not that AI fags would knpw)

>> No.6992601

>>6990782
I'm sure the good members of the court will take this into account ;)

>> No.6992614

>>6990438
>what are caricatures

why the fuck are you even on this board

>> No.6992615

>>6990434
someone lop this trannys hands off so her whinging can actually be justified. shouldnt be a problem since theyre fine with snipping their pisser off

>> No.6992621

>>6992577
Tell that to the judge, bozo.

>> No.6992623
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6992623

>>6992614
>Caricatures are when I rip 1:1 copyrighted material and sell it as my own.

>> No.6992624

>>6992623
Not to mention the filmstill looks way better than his shitty paintover. Just to be clear though I got no issue with him doing this, just like I have no issue when people use AI to do this.

>> No.6992627

>>6992624
>>6992621
Lawsuit underway
>I have no issue when people use AI to do this.
Neither do I, an individual is hardly an issue, even if it's technically illegal what Sam is doing. When corporations ask for a fee that enables users to do this at scale is another matter. hundreds of thousands flock to their paid services to make memes from the IP of the copyright holders, making midjourney bank.

>> No.6992647

>>6992623
If copyright issues weren't the issue here, this is such a lame thing to do.

>> No.6993298

>>6989994
That's because AI assisted art if the future. Just like you wouldn't think about running a large business without Excel in today's world, in less than a year from now no professional artist will even dare to think about producing art without AI.

>> No.6993315

I don't care about AI art. Same as a carpenter doesn't think about Ikea as his competition.

>> No.6993334
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6993334

who made this image if not me
who did I steal it from

>> No.6993353

>>6992566
>non-artists wanting to play pretend
Doesn't really change my point lol

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6993357

>>6992321
prompters are just random cunts making images, no ironic or dramatic backstory. The whole "issue" is laden with emotion, ethics, economics, judgement, pretentiousness, gatekeeping and other unimportant things. The only important question in AI art is what can it do

>> No.6993373

>>6993334
>t. didn't read the thread. or perhaps did but has <80 iq

>> No.6993392

>>6993298
Your frog faced messiah Mostaque even said AI is a bubble.

>> No.6993473

>>6993357
lol you disingenuous faggots are now pretending you didn't go harass artists for an entire year because you're vindictive cunts. And I don't mean that in the Australian way, "mate".

>> No.6994131

>>6993353
Well it doesn't change it, just means it's objectively wrong.

>> No.6994191

>>6994131
AI is objectively not art. Objectively kill yourself.

>> No.6994198

>>6994191
cope

>> No.6994214 [DELETED] 

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>> No.6994219 [DELETED] 

>>6994198

>> No.6994221

>>6994131

>> No.6994223

>>6994214
,

>> No.6994229
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6994229

>>6993473
you sound insane and even worse you are missing the point, this is what I am talking about- emotional babble and seething about a fucking robot that looks at pictures and makes new ones.

Non-artists are now using AI Art generators and thats a good thing. I dont know who 'harassed' you but I hope they catch the guy lmao

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6994232

>>6994191

>> No.6994476

>>6994229
Computer spits out data, from database, it's a language based predictive model, basically the same tool that they use to predict what you will buy based on your purchasing habits . It's not truly understanding or learning it's statistics.

>> No.6994478

>>6994229
>T.tripfag

>> No.6994484

>>6994229
Honestly nigga you sound like a chatbot for how much shit and words you like to parrot.
Who uses emotional babble as a phrase when techno babble been seen longer.
>inb4 your a curry ESL

>> No.6994487

>6994229
>nigga define emotional babble

>> No.6994492

>>6994223
Couldn't handle a
>.
janny truly is a cocksucker for AIfags

>> No.6994498

>>6993357
>learn English poojet

>> No.6994500

>>6992623
why do curries honestly feel the need to answer ironic questions.

>> No.6994501

>>6992599

>> No.6994505

>>6992627
Is this some sort of damage control for how much shilling you niggas do

>> No.6994509

>>6992574

>> No.6994586

>>6994229
Somebody championing AI "art" and accusing others of missing the point is really funny.

>> No.6994640

>>6994586
ai shills are seething that /ic/ is one of the last bastions on this site where some faggy ai image spam general thread isn't welcome

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6994648

>>6992321
>AI fags accusing each other of plagiarism
Where can I see this? I find it funny that they now act like the trolling/"we iz teh fucher" never happened and they're the victims now.
Meanwhile ai-jeets have had no breakthrough in art and their only "win" is corpos avoiding the courts.

>> No.6994657

>>6994640
/tg/ appears to hate them seeing how the first thing posted if they see AI is to fuck off back to the containment thread

>> No.6994810

>>6994500
that's called a rhetorical question esl-kun

>> No.6994830

>>6990388
Okay, but what if when it's recreating an image, it now does it so closely that the image feels as though it's breaking copyright and plagiarism? Isn't that evidence that it's 'memorised' how to draw a specific image? It may not actually have that specific image in its code or in a database, but it has all the instructions to draw it perfectly doesn't it?

There may not be any laws about this specific style of breach of copyright, but I think since this is a 'for-profit' company, and it's training images come directly from the people and industries they wish to make redundant, I find it pretty hard to believe that the law isn't going to go against this AI companies.

>> No.6994833

>>6992621

>> No.6994835

>>6994810
kinda proves my point

>> No.6994838

>>6992599

>> No.6994840

>>6993334
>who made this image if not me
The AI?

>> No.6994841

>>6992577

>> No.6994842

>>6994476

>> No.6994844

>>6993315
why is it these threads usually get bumped in the middle of the night

>> No.6994846

>>6992015

>> No.6994848

Le .

>> No.6994849

>>6991221

>> No.6994853

>>6989927
The only good use of AI so far as I'm concerned
>racist pics

>> No.6994856

>>6989900
>this nigga

>> No.6994857

>>6990388
>forgot your trip
>>6989900

>> No.6994858

>>6989873
/thread

>> No.6994992

>>6990388
The go ahead genius, and argue that the H265 compressed movie you downloaded from torrent isn't copying because it's compressed, and the source file goes through a bunch of math operations

>> No.6994999

>>6990733

>> No.6995000

>>6990434
>Flat chested double amputee MtF

>> No.6995016
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6995016

>>6990434
>gatekeeping
bet they're not even disable.
>unless they consider being a tranny that much of a disability

>> No.6995020

>>6992019

>> No.6995024

>>6990653
The average IQ really be dropping faster than science expected

>> No.6995030

>>6989891

>> No.6995031

>>6991224

>> No.6995035

>>6991209

>> No.6995037

/thread

>> No.6995042

>>6995030
>>6995031
>>6995035
mindbroken paintpigs

>> No.6995044

>>6995042
Okay, thief. You'll never be an artist and everyone is getting wise to your shit. Tick tock.

>> No.6995052

>>6995044
There is no theft. Hyperbole won't get you taken seriously, use correct terminology

>> No.6995065

>>6995052
>guy sneaks into a sculptor's studio and makes plaster casts of their work

"Lol TeChniCally i'M nOt SteALing!"

>> No.6995079

>>6995065
Yes. Copying is not theft. Even if the outputs were 1:1 regurgitatations. Which they are not, in the vast vas vast majority if cases

>> No.6995092

>>6995079
That's not how copyright works . Does holding a pencil and scratching some wines on paper terrifying you guys that much. Are you afraid of drawing a little box and putting your eyes on it if that's what's scary you. There's a point where you have to start questioning the sanity of these people because literally they are afraid to hold the pencil and get some copy paper and put that pencil on the paper and draw a circle a square and triangle. It's not hard to draw it's hard to draw really really well but if you're not even going to try to draw something simple just for fun and run around looking for apps to fix your art it kind of questions the point of doing anything. You're just like the guys who play video games on God mode because they don't want to die or get better

>> No.6995098

>>6995065
Yes. Copying is not theft. Even if the outputs were 1:1 regurgitatations. Which they are not, in the vast vas vast majority if cases

>> No.6995104

>>6995098
Did you just hecking steal my post? I'm calling the police for violating my property

>> No.6995108

>>6995065
>Ys. Copying is not thft. Even if the outputs wee 1:1 regrgitatations. Which the are nt, in te vast vas vasmajority if case

>> No.6995112

>>6995098
Did you just hecking steal my post? I'm calling the police for violating my property. I'm trans btw, in case that matters.

>> No.6995122

Omg can you guys stop? This is basically rape. Stop frigging plagiarising my posts. How will I pay off my loans for my useless art degree, Starbucks coffees and transition? I'm so gonna tweet about this.

>> No.6995193

>>6995065
>guy sneaks into a sculptor's studio and makes plaster casts of their work
and that's just not what happens.
god you're people are beyond saving.

>> No.6995208

>download some guys work
>does math on it
>profit
it's ok because it's linear algebra.

>> No.6995211

>>6995193
It essentially is though. Human art goes in, soulless machine scrambles it and spits out slop that is inexorably lesser than the stolen input, being inhuman and antithetical to art. Artist that was stolen from in the first place has a huge problem with it and is ignored. We're providing the soul and you're lifting it and hiding behind math and pretending its yours.
>god you're people are beyond saving.
Likewise with you actually being an artist and being welcome in a place like ic.

>> No.6995222

>>6995211
>"It essentially is though."
>says shit that has literally nothing to do with the previous sentence
oh look, another delusional retard. have a nice day.

>> No.6995223

>>6994835
Kinda proves mine too.

>> No.6995224

>>6994191
>trying to play semantics
Yes anon, I’m sure you alone have finally discovered the true definition of art after thousands of years worth of academics have failed

>> No.6995238

>has poor reading comprehension
>"this post is wrong"
>"he must be a retard, not me"
in a nutshell. repeat for every thread.

>> No.6995244

>>6995042
>rando random youing and adding nothing to thread
>"mind broken" he says
honestly look here anon a dot

.

>> No.6995249

>>6995222
Honestly go back to /g/ you fagget no one here cares about responding to you in a meaningful way

>> No.6995253

I wonder how much of these pro AI posts just tripfag considering they seem to just follow his ass
>prob just discord trannies doing their thing though

>> No.6995256

>>6995223
>(YOU)

>> No.6995258

>>6995256
>>(YOU)
>(YOU)

>> No.6995259

>>6994198

>> No.6995263
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>>6995258

>> No.6995273

>>6995238
>guy sneaks into a sculptor's studio and makes plaster casts of their work
>Human art goes in, soulless machine scrambles it and spits out slop that is inexorably lesser than the stolen input, being inhuman and antithetical to art.
i'm sure these two are the same in your mind.
otherwise i don't know how you live with yourself being this retarded. there is a massive dissonance between what you say and what you actually believe.
like i said from the get go, you people are delusional.

>> No.6995275

>>6995253
>I wonder how much of these pro AI posts just tripfag
zero
of course you won't believe me, because here as well, you'd rather stay in your delusion.

>> No.6995279

>guy argues with retards day in day out
>Good thing I'm not of of those retards

>> No.6995291

>guy uses AI trained on others work to enhance his own
>Community is hostile to people doing so, because of the false assumptions they make about how AI works
>Wants to shift the tide, so that he can share his discoveries without being dog pilled
>Asks his wife's boyfriend what to do
>He just winks and licks his lips

>> No.6995316

>>6995273
It isn't stealing its Complicated Stealing (TM)

>> No.6995364

>>6995042
Your reddit insult hasn't caught on and you should go back.

>> No.6995369

>>6990434
Shiro Kotobuki (may he rest in peace) was paralyzed from the neck down.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDLoleIfAro

>> No.6995379

>>6995291
forgot your trip

>> No.6995381

>>6995193
and you still can't draw for shit

>> No.6995389

>>6995193
you need to go then...
>nigga

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6995396

>>6992321
You gotta give it to Shad, thanks to him now even all the normies think that AIfags sound absolutely ridiculous.

>> No.6995397

>>6995193
>saving
says the Perma beg

>> No.6995403

>>6991072

>> No.6995409

>>6990516

>> No.6995463

>>6990566
This is like prompting "the mona lisa" and then being surprised when an imagine of the mona lisa is generated.

>> No.6995648

>>6995463
The image is not that famous anymore. Zoomers and gen alpha don't know it so well. The prompt was >>6990614
One day someone could prompt a combo of words that is an obscure copyright character and use the result.

>> No.6995976

>>6990375
the reason AI is free for you to use right now is because millions of dollars of venture capital are being pumped into it. One day that's going to dry up and AI is going to have to actually be sold, and if it's still directly ripping stills from existing media when companies are paying 10k a month for the privilege of using midjourney the entire operation is going to implode before you can even blink

>> No.6996033

I just decided to say fuck artists, You all did this to yourselves.

>> No.6996188

>>6996033
>t.mikufag or tripfag

>> No.6996268

>>6991110
>>6991110
Man...
imagine doing that with Daddario's nude scene and Sharon Stone's crossed legs in Basic Instinct
has nobody done this or can nobody do it even in the paid version?

>> No.6996273

>>6991315

>> No.6996275

>>6995275
>zero he says

>> No.6996277

>>6990830

>> No.6996280

>>6990161

>> No.6996288

>>6995275
nigga (YOU) responding tell me otherwise

>> No.6996563

>>6990633
Yup, same arguments since forever. Imagine if you'd have spent all that time and energy doing something more productive than complaining about something you can't do nothing about.

Humans are weird.

>> No.6996566

>>6996563
shadow bumping nigger

>> No.6996567

>>6995275

>> No.6996571

>>6992321
that how it be for eternal crabs

>> No.6996573

>>6991106
surreal amounts of copium

>> No.6996576

>>6991315
Need to find loopholes to drink alcohol as well. I know fermented milk is one of them for mongols

>> No.6996580

>>6991146
>they're trans btw anon
can't expect them not to hyper fixated on their pro-nouns can we

>> No.6996585

>>6991074
that just be phone posting tb'h
>though I already know you'll feel the need to correct it anyways to understand

>> No.6996589

>>6990634
aight but might as well turn these to crab generals since that only what their good for

>> No.6996590

>>6990625

>> No.6996644

>>6996563
>Humans are weird
Are you a robot? Humans have emotions, I'd love to not be pissed about psychos with an IQ of 300 feeding every artist's life work to their open source AI and then turning for-profit to fuck everyone and their mother in the ass while also proclaiming it's for the benefit of mankind. Venting helps take off the heat so that I can focus on being productive again.
>But meditation
Fuck off.

>> No.6996686

>>6989873
>posting this on /ic/
Fuck off and die you dirty AI nigger, I hope you get cancer

>> No.6996892

>>6995976
OpenAI is apparently not doing too well and I have no idea what their business model even is.

>> No.6997084

>>6996686
cope

>> No.6997086

>>6997084
AI isn't art and relies on theft of real artists, of which you will never be. Cope.

>> No.6997183

>>6996892
>their business model even is.
$20 a month for GPT4, they have 200k paypigs.
then there is the constant investor money that piles up.

>> No.6997211

>>6994830

>> No.6997213

>6997084
this nigga

>> No.6997214

>>6990564

>> No.6997217

/thread

>> No.6997288

>>6990633
based. stay furious

>> No.6997392

>>6990388
copiium

>> No.6997472

>>6994657

>> No.6997474

>>6990564

>> No.6997479

>>6994648
they truly are faggets aren't they

>> No.6997482

>>6990434
I'd assume this nigga posting this still have their hands. It comes across as being offended for other people
>then again it is a tranny posting it

>> No.6997484

>>6990625
Asian culture basically is to assume the position and get bended backwards for the gov
>they even have actual big brother laws

>> No.6997488

>>6994657
prob has to do with their constant spam

>> No.6997489

>>6990373

>> No.6997493

>>6989927

>> No.6997789

What I don't get is why people are pushing for AI to take over all creative, intellectual and media fields instead of, I dunno, manual fucking labour, office slop and drudge work.

>> No.6997798

>>6997789
it's safer. no lives are at risk if AI messes up an AI image. but if it messes up the rivets in a steel framed building you might get squished.

>> No.6997830

>>6997789
manual labor seems to be orders of magnitude harder to automate than intellectual work since robotics isn't still quite ready

>> No.6997845

>>6995396

>> No.6997848

>>6997798
>you'll be working in the coal mines
>get lung cancer
>safer

>> No.6997854

>>6997848
Yeah, once intellectual AI cures cancer.

>> No.6997867

>>6997854
>cures
you mean treat
>curing isn't good for business

>> No.6997868

>>6994858

>> No.6997879

>>6997854
>>6997854
>do you have health insurance coverage
>Inb4 not American the opinion discarded

>> No.6997882

>>6990152

>> No.6997887

>>6990400
fingers

>> No.6997891

>6995222
>fag spotted

>> No.6997897

>6995275

>> No.6997998

>>6997854
you still haven't answered the question earlier

>> No.6998002

>>6997183
>not getting it for free
>do niggas really?

>> No.6998007

>>6992321
figures

>> No.6998011

>>6989877
(YOU)

>> No.6998013

>>6989880
next filter update when

>> No.6998016

>>6989900

>> No.6998020

and...

>> No.6998047

>>6998002
I think it's illegal in burgerland to do it the aicg way, and I'm not good enough with computers to risk it.

>> No.6999699

>>6998020
it's over

>> No.6999846

>>6999699