/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

I will NOT draw fat old men in 2024
"Fundies" like that are a meme

>>6989555
You are a meme

>>6989555
Then draw handsome men. Draw athletes or dancers in their physical prime with peak mind and body cohesion. There's nothing better than a picture of someone in the zone who is moving in flawless grace and power to add to your mental library for powerful body language references.

>>6989184
Thanks, anon. It looks a bit better now that it's colored, but I feel like that right (our left) arm and the position of the tap are tripping up the composition... Might sleep on it and see what I can fix tomorrow.

>>6989563
i dont know if this is useful but this looks like giantess stuff now

>>6989565
It was giving me the same feeling, even though I didn't really know how to make it not look like that, kek. Guess the perspective was a bit bunk, that's what happens when you semi-freehand it instead of being disciplined.

I won’t be drawing for this thread, either. It’s the holidays! Time to endure family. Merry Christmas!

>>6989542
Remember:
before criticising any of my work I post, I will require this information about you
1. your full name - name and surname
2. the address of your current residence
3. the address of your workplace
4. your marital status and the name of your spouse, if any
5. your annual wage, before and after tax
6. your license plate
7. your place of birth
8. the names of your parents
9. your credit card number and the expiration date
and finally you MUST post your work.
If but one of these points is not met, or, if I am unable to find a Wikipedia page about you, that matches the information you have given, that lists you as a prominent artist in any artistic field, all your critique directed towards me or my work is invalid and actually the opposite of what you say is true and my work is perfect and devoid of any mistakes.
Also, when you do criticise my work, you can not use any word included in the following list because your post will automatically get filtered by my automatic filtering system. You must treat me like a toddler when you criticise my work or I will cry.
https://rentry.org/za5t5

Let's keep it nice and civil in here, folks.

i will be taking my tablet with me and drawing absolutely fucked cursed and distressed loomis blooks and bridgman blobs in front of my family at christmas dinner

>>6989555
I'm not drawing old men in 2024 either, time to take a stand

I will draw old men in 2024 if they help me getting ahead

>>6989565
>>6989563
Haha I see it, I think the telephone poles being his same height along with the bushes looking a little bit like trees is making him look massive. I don't think anything is literally wrong I think it's just like forced perspective. It took me quite a while to realize that was meant to be a faucet lol, I thought he was kneeling on the ground.

>>6989579
I made the whole foreground darker than the character to seperate it from him
Maybe try bringing the bushes into focus by showing some of the leaves fully? Not rendering the whole bush, but showing a few in clearer focus to let the reader get a sense of scale, and try to draw the sink out more in terms of darks and lights. Metal is very shiny :^)
The character looks super nice btw!

>>6989563
Why is there electric pole on the ground? You trying to paint reflection?

>>6989605
>>6989555
What about him?

>>6989586
extremely based, friendo, i will be doing the same

>>6989563
I think putting their right arm (stage left) lower and back with fingers in their hair + the faucet in front would look nice. It will allow you to play with perspective and show off you can do the detailed motion of fingers curling in the hair.

>>6989618
thought this dude got recalled back to the imperial city

Hi begmates! I've read somewhere here that boxes can help improve my skills so I tried some and here's the latest boxes I've made ^^

>>6989627
^^
cute post, I love you

>>6989627
Oh god another schizo

>>6989629
Thank you, I love you too

>>6989630
Why is that?

>>6989627
You need a reason behind the boxes. Try stacking them like cardboard or wood boxes or drawing a simple city. Drawing a entire scene will help more than anything. You get perspective, texture, shadow, highlight, background details like the walls and floor. Exercise everything and you'll improve with speed.

>>6989642
Thank you! Drawing an entire scene seems too hard for me but I will do my best :)

>>6989605
I agree, enough is enough.

How do I get my adhd brain to sit down and shut up and read the goddamn sticky fully
I keep finding reasons to quit, like 'oh no I need to get this done' or 'no I gotta get ready to go here', it's the same thing with /fit/ I can't wrangle my tard ass to sit down and absorb the information
And when I ask adv they're like 'adhd's not real' and refuse to elaborate

>>6989627
That's a square

did my best trying to keep everything proportional. was drawing along with STEVE! as he demonstrated and he mentioned beginners tend to lengthen out the waist and I did just that :).

>>6989655
Pick a link in the middle, click it, and then go up or down from there.

Loomis or SOVL?

Applying still life to degenerate purposes

Tried watercolors for the "first time" yesterday. Today I tried to paint this child. It's hard to figure out blending and colors and I can't get things to look like I'm imagining them but I feel like this would be a good way to add color to drawings once I get better.

Guess I will try to make spheres and cubes and so on to practice getting values right etc. But I'm glad I at least tried to make something where I'm out of my depth

>>6989627
make a box

Current thing I am working on.
I still need to practice shadows, rendering , colour (i have done minimal to no practice at all)
I think im starting to get a hang of gesture and perspective somewhat but
> I needs MOAR.
Still messy but less so then before.
Baby steps forward.
Is anything off or seriously off.
Im still suffering from a case of "rose tinted glassitis"
Any critique is welcome.

Holy fuck I'm too depressed to draw. I have been trying to get it under controll but nothing helps. Guess I just kill myself, better than just being a worthless need without any skills or hobbies for the rest of my life.

The second I pick up the pen this happens
>it's pointless
>this has no meaning
>why even do this
>too much effort, just be lazy
>nothing will ever come from this


Same thing happens with everything in my life. My body feels weak and tired the whole day, just as if you just woken up from 2 hours of sleep. The whole fucking day. I can't do it anymore.

>>6989724
I had a very similar phase recently, anon.
>clean your entire house, right this very moment. this was the biggest supporter for me, got me out of depression
>make sure you eat every 3-4 hours, something quality. Stack up on food if you have to.
>make sure to shower every evening
>identify why you feel shit. list down every big task you have and break them into manageable parts (this applies to drawing as well but lets worry about this later)
>if you have intense emotions, open journal and write it down, or make a simple drawing that expresses it (can be childlike)
WAGMI bro, things always change

Today I drew hands and copied a Philtomato painting

this dude is genuinely haunting me
should i study

>>6989686
>consciously applying what you learned
GMI

What are the best free Krita pastel and painting brushes that I can use to just paint with that brush only?

I am in the mood to paint, but too lazy to research...

hai guyz i studied loomis for 100 hours i am the good now rite?

>>6989719
explain the blood on those sheets

/beg/ is a magical place...the atelier of the wicked and disturbed.

>>6989733
gonna add to this, get sunlight and exercise
for awhile I would put my sneakers and socks right next to my bed at night, then very first thing when waking was put them on, take a piss and go for a ten minute walk in the sun.
basic meditation and mindfulness can help with intrusive thoughts too, they don't fully go away but you learn to categorize them and your brain pushes it into the background so you can focus on what you're doing

>>6989740
By the way, what should I focus on? Anatomy? Shading? I'm a bit lost at the moment

>>6989778
Blud?
Can you circle it?
Pillows and sheet darker areas are supposed to be folds. (Apparently not very good ones)

>>6989796

>>6989799
Ooooh.
Partially its My blood sweat and tears
But mostly its a mousepad my sis got for me

>>6989773
Wow looks like real manga I guess now you made it

>>6989815
Based mousepad

T w i n k

>>6989793
And by a bit lost I mean I've been stagnating for several years

R8 my Picasso
Also, moved to gesture right after doing this and I feel like I skipped a step somewhere, should I have done a different fundamental first or should I just keep grinding gesture

>>6989844
gmi

>>6989686

>>6989747
Highly recommend the dry marker that comes pre-packaged, basically a square brush with a nice texture that looks great with or without tilt controls. Crank up the brush size for large gradients, crank it down for fine details. Kino.

My art feels very stale and poor today and so was my gesture drawing session. Top is random style experimentation that IMO looks too much like wind waker. I kind of like the bottom ones I guess.
If you've got any compliments, spew them out, I could use the motivation boost.

Anyone else have trouble with accessing gfxdomain today?4

is this a good digital pen or is it worth to consoom another?

ive been lazy have a gondola

Can I get some crit on my 3 study/sketches?
from what I can see my weaknesses are:
- poor control of shading since first time trad in a while
- top right guys face too long
- bottom right guys beard is non existent

Can someone give me some pointers to improve? Haven't been painting long as most. Used to sketch and do drawabox exercises till i got bored.

>>6989555
I will draw cute girls and fat ugly men in 2024

>>6989951
More contrast! Harder edges! Darker pencil! Bolder shapes! Other than that it's lookin good, you're on the right track baby!
Next mission: Draw from reference... from memory ',:)

>>6989750
hey i really liked this one

>Special needs
>ADHD, autism, learning disability
>Have so many ideas for art but my ADHD and executive dysfunction prevents me from actually doing anything or even putting in a modicum of work
>Can't understand basic trigonometry or math
>Have never been able to commit myself to any serious hobby, dabbler at best.
>Want to now get good at drawing after years and years of wanting to
>Can't even pick up the pencil

Am I legitimately too retarded to be an artist? Every time I think about the fact that I can't do art, it makes me almost suicidally depressed and makes me nearly break down crying. I have friends that show me their art everyday and it pisses me off to the point where I want to fucking block them or tell them off. I can't do this anymore. I mean I'm literally starting from zero.

Getting used to digital drawing. Not sure what to do next

>>6990050
>All these excuses
>All this negativity
>All that envy
If you actually wanted to be an artist you would've been drawing instead of writing this post. Every single skilled artist you're seething about started where you are right now, so shut the fuck up, find a picture of something cool, and copy it until your version looks cooler than the original. That's all there is to it.
If that's too much for you then yes, you are legitimately too retarded to be an artist.

How do i get good enough to draw like picrel?
I think i might be too retarded to ever learn how to because i'm bad at everything else but i want to try regardless. I really don't have anything to lose

>>6990077
the anon you replied to is fucking with you
this is copypasta bait

You're 100% correct but your words are wasted here so just ignore them and draw

>>6990083
>>6990050
stupid posts deserve stupid answers

just draw

>>6990084
Ahahaha good point, danke anon

is samsung tab s6 lite good

>>6990093
Drawing tablets are good for drawing.

>>6990090
Sorry for being a howie but how do i go about it to maximize gains?
I won't be able to keep at it for long if i'm shit so i need tangible progress if i am to suceed

>>6990095
but is the size enough?

>>6990099
try it out if you can at a samsung or general electronics store, lots of people seem to love their S6 Lite for drawing despite being on the small end for drawing tablets
the size doesn't tell the full story on tablet computers either because the gesture controls and UI design of certain apps (CSP has a simple mode that cleans up the UI to be out of the way) makes it feel like you've got more drawing real estate than regular display tablets
a 12" samsung feels like a 16" cintiq

Happy xmas beg! today it was busy day yet i still managed to crank out some drawery.

>>6990064
pick up a random art book and just follow it. easy
>>6989956
my lame advice would be to put more effort into your canvas. it is hard to tell what was your intention, what is error and what is laziness due to that art "style", but for example that "background" is just horrific
>>6989951
upgrade your tool set: ink it after pencil or get some charcoal for better value range. otherwise its good
>>6989892
eyes too wide apart, but maybe it is asian anomaly, hard to tell with them sometimes. i like the contrast with the haircut, that is some pro tier stylisation
>>6989844
gesture is controversial topic. Half the teachers and art books claim it is the most important shit ever and other half doesnt even mention it anywhere and draw "without" it. I recc picking up nice beg book ala keys to drawing and saving gesture for the time you will want to breach into INT figure drawing (like i am doing and failing miserably right now)
>>6989773
very cool + smug
>>6989750
soul
>>6989742
that is so abstract i wont even dare to criticize its flatness and confusing value range
>>6989793
one of the advantages of beg is that no matter what, you have only space for improvement. for example have you done the famous /ic meme aka copied bridgman twice?
>>6989724
let me guess
>no sport
>no job
>no schedule
>no vitamins
>no sun
>no fun
how many of these are you? 5 out of 6?
>>6989719
sexy thot, guns and sword. the pinnacle of mans man art. i kneel
>>6989627
i am really not a fan of exercises involving cubes in a vacuum. for example at least my drawing is using boxes to construct a figure. or perspective courses uses them to show vanishing points and how to accurately draw something. But boxes in vacuum? Pointless
>>6990093
do you know paper sizes? Like A4? That is IMHO the sweet spot for tablets and the like: big enough to not give you carpal tunnel, but small enough to fit into your bag.

>>6990102
>a 12" samsung feels like a 16" cintiq
People are actually going to believe this and buy the wrong device.

>>6990103
PAWELL! merry christmas! Whats your goal for next year as an artist? where do you see yourself skill wise?

>>6990105
imagine paying $2k for "creative equipment" and it uses a fucking LCD panel from caveman times

>>6990103
you're really rushing these dude
i know you see whats wrong with them

>>6989655
>I actually have to have any form of self discipline, please hold my hand and read the sticky out to me verbally I can't scroll and read it myself
ADHD is a meme because there is no disorder, you aren't suffering, you're just lazy and lacking character. You're not reading it because you probably don't even draw, you just like to think about it. Fuck you draw and read. Anyone i've seen who actually Suffers from symptoms of adhd has a load of problems that can explain them. Adhd isn't real, it's a symptom, it's a characteristic. Stop asking for help and DO IT.

>>6990090
>>6990090
Shit breety good.
Lighting is very very good. Bueno excelente.

Im not sure if it will work but if you feel inclined to , try it.
try and shorten (STUBBYFY) the left corner of HER mouth
and
or
have the upper lip be slightly more prominent.
You could also try and lower the nose+mouth/ shorten the jaw

im gonna just try and copy faces nihei drew for practice because i like his style

Okay, lads, here's my situation:
>about 2 years slowly learning how to draw
>progressed well this year because I started attending in person classes
>can draw some okay stuff on /trad/, but horrible on digital

I bought a used Huion H1161 tablet on a sale here but I can't figure it out, I'm just too inaccurate with my lines.
I'm on vacation from university till March, so I wnted to do a figure drawing (I'm thinking on Eviston or Vilppu) and a digital drawing course. I know that's not a lot of time, but I want something that could at least put me on the right track in 2 months.
Thing is, there are just too many digital drawing/painting coursesand I don't know which to choose. Do you guys have any recommendations of general digital courses that worked for you, especially in getting used to screenless tablets? Bonus points for ones avaliable online (poorfag).
Here's an OC lady I sketched the other day.

>>6990103
Yeah i admit i might give that background more work. Appreciate the term art style if you would call it that at all.

>>6989555
Based.
I will NOT draw any men (unless it's a commission and even then I will grumble)

I will NOT draw any creepy old 1930s L**mis men

I will NOT draw any b*xes

I will NOT waste my time with stupid geometry sketches

FUCK Pr*ko and his cringe skulls

FUCK Doohinkus M*nnequin

FUCK V*lppu

JAPS = GODS

I will only draw sexy, cute, very colorful anime girls that make mah peepee hard and I vill be happy.

I swear there's like no appealing way to render non-hyper realistic lips in graphite

>imagine blaming the medium

>>6990077
My problem is that I don't even know the fundamentals. I've wanted this for six years and have never been able to even start working towards this goal. I stuck with writing when I was a kid because I thought I'd never be good at drawing. Now I regret how much time I've utterly wasted. Now I want to get back all the skill I could have learned all these years. I don't even know what artist I want to copy or what I want to do. I just want to reach a tolerable skill level. Literally anything. But I fucking can't. I just want to become a digital artist like I've wanted to for years now.

So I've been reading up on my Howie lore and apparently he's been an even bigger much longer problem over at /adv/ (they absolutely LOATHE him there) with sightings in /wsr/, /co/, and of course /ic/ since 2021 allegedly. And no, he is not trolling, he is legitimately that fucked in the head. His OP posts are probably in the triple digit count.

If you ever feel like you can't amount to anything or feel discouraged, thank the heavens that at least you are not him.

>>6990203
kek
Does he always post the same things there as here?

>>6989815
goes hard, btw nice art anatomy+perspective is really hard, but drwaing things u love like guns n hot bitches makes it much easier

>>6990207
>>6990203
Or he could just be someone that needs help? As someone who has ADHD, I had to look through dozens if not hundreds of sources before I could find one that worked for me.

>>6990214
>someone that needs help
No shit. But he needs professional help.

>>6990207
See for yourself. He only changes it up once enough people grow wise to his bull, or when he learns a new meme phrase to use as an excuse ex. "executive dysfunction" >>6990050 which someone in /adv/ taught him recently lol
>>6990214
You're clearly new here so I'm just gonna hit you with a lurk moar

>>6990216
insanity

>>6989793
Don't try to be good at everything quickly, focus on one thing, like this other anon >>6989719 your focus should be on what you WANT to draw, if you want to draw really hot bitches shooting guns you're going to want to get good at anatomy, perspective, and flow (composition), depending on your medium you'll do it differently obviously, but if you're both going for lineart comic-style cell shading then focus on that first, get the lineart to be readable, proportions correct, and then top it off with some color theory, just basic stuff.

You can focus on shading and anatomy once you understand proportion and color theory, you can't jump straight to anatomy because you'll fall into the artist trap of "drawing by muscle group" where the muscles are well defined but entirely atrophied, as though your character has no bones. If you want a clear example, look at Rob Liefeld's art (lineart, not the colors, which are done by other people): the muscles might be anatomically correct, but the proportions are all wonky, the muscles overlap each other and push themselves apart in unnatural ways because his focus was entirely on anatomy and not on proportions, you can also see that perspective fucks him up because he does not understand foreshortening, giving his characters massive or minute hands.

>>6990216
Okay and? He just needs genuine help. Your problems don't magically go away because of a 4chan thread.

>>6990223
I'm glad we agree. Unfortunately he doesn't.

>>6990223
>He just needs genuine help.
And he won't find it on 4chan. He needs to see a professional.

>>6989892
round 2, drawn without zooming in. I think it helped me to get the big picture better

Feedback for this?

I draw stylized cartoons to make up for my lack of skill and also im very lazy

>>6990157
copying is the best way to git gud, unironically, right now I'm copying other artists faces because I have some mental illness that hinders my abilty to recognize faces/names and form them in my head (i was dropped on my head several times as a baby and adult)

>>6990223
anon, don't whelm yourself with empathy, I know it feels bad to kick someone while they're down but this guy has a history, the apathetic behavior towards him is his own doing, if he could have gotten the help he needed here, he would have already found it.

>>6990232
focus on the limbs and their relation to the torso, in your case specifically on weight, try to zoom out more

>>6989892
round 2 done without zooming in

>>6990223
Dumbass

>>6990236
i really like how he does mouths and tired eyes with so few lines. im gonna keep practicing them

>>6989951
start doing bargue

Did another drawing of a random place in my house, I feel like this one came out not as good but I found it easier to mentally get into my drawing space. Whatever side of the brain that's supposed to be. I wish my family would let me draw them more

Fuck I'm slow, this took me all day and I couldn't get past the sketch

>>6989987
this is my progress from 4 years ago

>>6990309
sick gains anon

Fuck you all, I give up drawing because you were mean to me and ignored me. Merry christmas, motherfuckers.

>>6990320
thanks you too

>>6989886

I hit my 3 Month mark today, so here's a look back and everything I did over the course of Month 2

As far as personal thoughts go, I think i'm making decent progress, overall could have done many things better, been more diligent, did more practices, but ultimately I'll just have to reflect on those mistakes and learn from them for this month

I've also been doing better as far as detaching myself from my art, where I don't feel like i'm constantly comparing myself to others, nor do I feel as bad as I used to when I see another new learner doing way better than me

Overall, good month, happy that I'm keeping to drawing and I hope everyone has a Merry Christmas! I hope 2024 goes well for myself and everyone here with our art studies.

Also the first few days are super pixelated, I think I made them too small when I was making the collaboration image, i've been doing it in MS Paint and frankly I need to find a better method

>>6990320
Link your drawing, and next time ASK for feedback you bitch-ass honky.

ASK AND IT WILL BE GIVEN TO YOU; SEEK AND YOU WILL FIND; KNOCK AND THE DOOR WILL BE OPENED TO YOU.

>>6989687
Color can be real hard when you're not used to the medium, but you'll get a handle on it eventually, keep it up!

One day ill be decent. I just want to draw simple anime women and then pivot to magical girl dresses and shit, and Bridget

>>6990379
i believe in you anon

>>6990286
tried to power through and finish at least inking it today but
>3 hours later

I drew this about a month ago (it isn't finished) but I was thinking about finishing it. wanted to get some input and see if it was worth finishing or if I should just scrap it. I think her body is okay but her arms and head prolly need some reworking

>>6990387
If you ever think "should I finish this" the answer is yes. Finishing 5/10 work will get you to a pro level eventually, getting stuck throwing a thousand sketches out while you look for a "worthy piece" is how you end up a perma/beg/.
Colour it, shade it, post it, move on.

>>6990392
I was mostly just trying to see if I could get a little encouragement and maybe some advice on it or if it was mediocre to just scrap it and stop worrying about it

>>6990384
Im hard stuck trying to get more appealing faces. I ll probably spend a week or some shit practicing eyes that I like soon.

>>6990399
i feel you anon, faces are tough. granted everything feels tough to me but faces and eyes in particular

how can you tell if you're just getting crabbed vs when your art genuinely has flaws?

>>6990320
suck a dick faggot, merry christmas

>>6990415
Based /fag/got. Merry Christmas.

>>6990396
I already gave you encouragement and advice. It's a serviceable sketch. Finish it and post it.

its been a long time since i actually finished a drawing i think ill see this one through to completion
if anyone was able to give me a redline for the ears that would be much appreciated.. getting the orientation of them correct is proving to be a little tricky

>>6990221
I've never really tried color, where should I start? Is there a book or video you recommend?

i missed the reference pic and I'm unable to draw from imagination

>>6990436
go copy good artists, i believe if you were interested you would have looked for it yourself instead of asking me. copying artists is easier. go into pinterest and write colored illustration

>>6990439
nice

Merry Christmas, frens! Lots of Hampton feet for ya!
>>6989627
Based
>>6989610
Hm, yeah this is better
>>6989659
Good job! Nice shadow shapes on her ass
>>6989683
lol that’s great. Did you draw this?
>>6989740
Beautiful study
>>6989785
/beg/ and /int/
>>6989834
Good job showing volume with his collar
>>6989886
Big gains, anon
>>6989902
We all have good and bad days. You did a great job on the bottom left. Gestural, great work on the face perspective
>>6989942
:DDDD
>>6989956
Value studies and edges. Watch Marco Bucci
>>6990064
These are great!
>>6990083
Betty Edwards’s book, then Proko beg course. Then begin copying art you like while you go through a figure course like vilppu, or while doing Finch’s roadmap
>>6990166
Watch a tutorial on how to use your software and tablet, pick a simple hard round brush, forget about the fact you’re doing digital, and just draw. It’s gonna be awkward. The only fix is to get mileage. I love vilppu for figure drawing.
>>6990201
Keep going
>>6990232
Grind primitive forms in perspective, especially boxes and cylinders. The rest is just mileage. Good job, anon
>>6990284
Looks cool as fuck
>>6990309
Congrats!
>>6990348
looks great!
>>6990286
Yeah, art is hard lol
>>6990351
Great job!
>>6990379
You’re feeling the form here
>>6990384
Cute
>>6990386
That eye looks really cool
>>6990387
Yeah her body is great.face and arms aren’t bad. Good job!
>>6990419
Draw her hands
>>6990439
NICE. Imagination drawing is its own skill that needs to be trained. Art skills are highly specific. Looks good tho
>>6990415
Nice. I’d put his dick through a hole in the box though
>>6990236
They look good though
>>6990103
Do these from photos

>>6990445
>showers entire thread with (You)s
Obama_salute.jpeg

>>6990445
fuck u nigga why are you good at drawing

>>6989624
>>6989610
thank you anons, I love you

>>6990387
God damn how'd you get those curves so right

yeah imma crop it like this so i dont have to draw hands
problem?
>>6990445
i aint a footfag but those are some nice feet
merry christmas

>>6990348

>>6990096
Depends what are you trying to draw?

Pick a subject and draw that at multiple angles, if your drawing is bad break it down into smaller sections and learn how to draw parts of it and put the parts together. Practice without any references, then copy photo reference, then do sets with memory,

Draw an amount that you can stick to as a bare minimum every day, if it's 5 drawings than do 5 if it's 1 then so be it but do not skip any days, do this for 2 months and compare day 1 to day 60

You'll see improvement.

>>6990440
I guess you are right, I don't feel like learning about something I know nothing about and that is bound to be super frustrating. I'll keep doing studies for now

Why sometimes are my lines flowy and continuous and everything looks soft, and sometimes every line comes out scribbly and angular like a zigzag. I can draw either, but sometimes one comes out more natural than the other..

>>6990543
Because you have no control over your arm. You need to spend the next year learning how to draw with your shoulder and elbow, then learn how to draw with your mind, not your arm.

Can someone throw me more exercises for basic shapes? Ideally on circles and cylinders been getting a good mileage off Vilppu boxes atm

>>6990579
draw more circles and cylinders?

>find a nice photo
>decide to copy it in more cartoonish/animesque style
>face is off, forehead seems gigantic and so on
>decide to trace the face
>she ends up looking old in most attempts
How the fuck does it work?

mouths and such

Anon that asked what I used to draw dragons, twas felt tip pen and brush pen
Also trying to make hatching look less fucked

>>6990626

>>6990579
Yeah, this guy has made up a million different ellipse/perspective exercises that you could do.
https://youtu.be/gUma43dCGvE
https://mega.nz/file/aFclBSzK#Xbk92QnrgnNQbGaeY-fohrYCGhBX55LCTIsAKdC0FnM
He even made an ellipse practice game in unity if you're on digital.
https://youtu.be/LjhxM9iGAO4

>>6990628
Also this

>>6989987
Perspective and placement of bodyparts is a bit wonky i think.
Neck is not where it ought to be.
Arm perspective elbow "fold" and her right arm placement is off.
Dra Gun ov perspective is inconsistent. (Forend vs rest of the gun).
Her right eye is too much to the side.
U got some skills. Try one of the following
real life drawings/ gesture drawings,
look spinal anatomy,
neck studyes,
Look up skull/how to draw a head (loomis method me thinks but could be wrong)
and perspective. 1,2 and 3 point.

>>6990658
why do absolute perma pre begs try to help

>>6990659
pyw
and gender

>>6990659
Phoneposting

>>6990660
>pyw
no
bipoc trans

>>6990663
as a wh*te person, I want to apologize for my microaggression

>>6990666
As a black man I don't accept your apology. Next time, send your apology directly to my bank account in the form of reparations

>>6990668
hey, those are my gibs

>>6990064
Hello anon. Do you use Procreate? If so what “brush” do you use? Having a hard time finding that one.

>>6990463
because despite never having seen a woman naked IRL I've been told I'm really good at drawing their bodies. I'm not really sure why

>>6990597
You're not gonna get it right on the first go brother keep drawing. Also she doesn't look older, your lines are just shit.

why is that sometimes my art work here gets high praise and other times I get called a perma beg?

>>6990701
because people are mad and jelly

>>6990702
how can you tell when your piece genuinely didn't turn out well vs just someone crabbing you?

>>6990701
Best thing about this place is that it's not a hivemind. You get unadulterated responses from anyone and everyone, you just have to discern what is genuine and what is not. If they go indepth into their critiques they're probably on the money, One off comments like good or bad are probably just reactionary and venting.

>>6990705
you know for a fact people find enjoyment by seeing your artwork, dont care about the ones who do not

>>6990701
It may come as a shock to you, but there's this stage between beg and advanced called "intermediate" where sometimes your shit sucks because you're not adv and sometimes it's good because you're not beg

>>6990708
that makes sense. when my work kept getting a consistent critic of "it's flat" I sorta took it as a genuine criticism since it kept getting repeated. The reason I asked was because someone just called my art work garbage without really explaining why. I wasn't sure if he was being a dickhead or if I'm just not that good

>>6990718
well it prob was garbage

So I learned a bit of shading, and when doing digital, should I really bother with grayscale or can I just use colour and hues to kill two birds?

>no comments
>not even calling it shit
Owai da...

Fuck traditional art. I just realized I wasted a lot of money on buying different pencils, paper, paint and all that shit whereas my perfectly capable tablet with millions of possibilities were sitting in my drawer...

>>6990699
I have a feeling I have no idea how to draw realistically in first place.

>>6990658
You pointed out all the flaws i was aware of already. Thank you. Good job, no seriously those points are what i was thinking too. The blue line is not much help though.

What am I not seeing? Had fun making it though

Let me blogpost a little. So I regret not spending more time on digital as a beg. In retrospect I wasted a lot of money on art supplies and time on watching reviews from fucking retards that talk 1 hour about a product with no conclusion. It dawned on me after spending relatively lot of money on starter supplies for watercolor, that even though I spent a lot of money, my supplies are still considered subpar, and I need to spend more for "the real deal", because cheap stuff will hinder me (the tools are fun to use but still). Whereas a non-screen tablet will pleasure me in every imaginable way for a small cost, FOREVER. Fuck this bullshit. I don't even know what I am doing, yet I have to spend all this effort and also fight against the material. And use expensive stuff just to produce shit beg drawings. In retrospect I should have used digital, its cheap, no-bullshit, and effective.

>>6990768
What brands watercolors and brushes did you get?
Captcha: 0ppaa2. Too funny not to add.

>>6990766

what is that bulge? it's big enough to hide the hand.

>>6990779
Uhhh ribcage?

>>6990766
ribacge is flat on the chest, the ribcage is slightly curved on the front, in your pic is just flat making the tits point stright ahead, also the shoulder is dislocated... it needs some Laamis

>>6990792
Shitty redline. OP outfit was wearing a skintight outfit that compressed the boobs and you just drew generic fake tits

>>6990792
Noooooo don't sentence me to lemis

>>6989555
im taking this stand too, I WILL draw what I want to draw and pawell can stay drawing his 80 year old fat men in hunched poses

is there anywhere i can get like an actual model of a box irl for reference?

>>6990804
Anon...there are plenty of box shaped things everywhere

Gonna make my new years resolution to draw 2 hours every single day
how quickly will I go from /beg/ to /int/ by doing this?

>>6990807
I did this the entire year this year for (1hrish-2hr daily), highly NOT recommend, understand now why pros do it and why begs should not

>>6990809
>I did this the entire year this year for (1hrish-2hr daily), highly NOT recommend, understand now why pros do it and why begs should not
???

>>6990761
I willTry a different aproach on how to improve.
Just the neck thing. The rest can be chalked up to stile or squishysquashy of the body (for now atleas)

What I do(you might benefit from a different method) is
I determine where my torso is looking.
I "xray the toracic spine"
>All ribs connect to the toracic spine
>all toracal vertebrae have a pair of ribs.
I determine where the 1st (highest) toracic vertebrae is.
I draw the cervical spine from there, using cranial units with a lil bit of eyeballing it.
The exact way my cervical spine points depends on the headposition i want.

I add the superior (upper)traps .
They basicslly originate (im simplifying) from the skull where it conects with the neck.
Along the cervical spine
And ends at the spina scapulae and the lateral third of the clavicle.
I add sternocleidomastoideous using my neck as repherence. Add the trachea.
Voila.

>>6990796
>Shitty redline. OP outfit was wearing a skintight outfit that compressed the boobs and you just drew generic fake tits

my style>>> your opionion simple as

I am not getting anywhere with this book using gouache, am I even using the right paint because the methods and results almost remind me of oil or something else.

>exposed myself to more and new media
>realize everything I've ever "come up with" has in fact been incredibly unoriginal and unimaginitive, not only do my OCs suck in terms of art but also in terms of character writing and the story I tried to come up with
I feel atrociously small and stupid. I don't know where to go from here but I feel like DFE

>>6990768
I get your frustration, but I personally do not think experimenting with different tools and materials is a waste. Maybe you could've done so more effectively, but I actively try to use different tools now as I improve.
You can improve more much cheaper digitally, but as someone who's had a drawing tablet for a whole and have practiced digitally in the past, I find sketchbooks a lot more useful and satisfying.
This is personal preference of course and coming from different perspectives, and that's something you might benefit from remembering. All these artists telling you what to do and what not to do are giving a perspective, it does not necessarily mean it's guaranteed to work. You just have to trust in the process.

>>6990844
Have you ever actually written anything to completion? Ideas on their own aren't very valuable. I'm no expert writer or creator, but I like to think of it as a fully completed story is a collection of different ideas that has potential to be very unique due to that alone. A single idea cannot and often will not be unique.

Try actually making your ideas before you judge whether or not they're valuable.

>>6990807
Had you wanted to draw, you'd be drawing. Why do people, who clearly lack the desire to do some hobby, continue to headbutt the wall? It's not like /fit/, drawing doesn't even have any health or quality of life benefits

>>6990859
It's a curious thing. There must be something about drawing they're obsessed with, but it can't be drawing itself. Maybe they just want to want to draw, or maybe they just want to be good at something for the sake of being good at it.

>>6990852
I always die of cringe or boredom before I finish. Guess I'm just not cut out for this kind of thing.

Next time I'll predraw before going in with the ink (to nail proportions a bit better), but I did this mostly just as a test to see if the fineliner ink really tolerates washes.

Merry Christmas to all.

>>6990844
Originality is a false idol. You can always do the same idea, but execute it better. Or mix other ideas together. Or do them, but with a slightly different flavor or a twist

Any tips on how to make the guitar playing look more natural? I don't know anything about playing instruments so the pose is the best I could come up with after looking at a bunch of refs, but it still doesn't feel right to me.

>>6990889
Looks fine to me anon, I think you just need to make the entire pose more dynamic if you want more "oomph"

What are fundies?

>>6990917
Fundamentals
Aka can you be consistent with the very basics like drawing straight lines or circles

>>6990917
Funions

>>6990630
Thanks

thoughts?

Another Philtomato study. Turns out copying is way easier than drawing from imagination. Who woulda thunk.

Is the trick to only doing flat colors just checking the values until the piece works in black and white or am I just retarded

>>6990841
how is anyone supposed to help you, if you dont PYW? Post your apples from chapter 2. Are you properly mixing the colors on palette and then just gently apply them on canvas? Maybe you have typical beg issue of too much water, so the paint spills and mix accidentally everywhere?

PYW

more Dean Yeagle copies, appreciate the feedback friends

>>6989542
31 years old and still not even /beg/. I wanted to draw when I was 6. Why am I NGMI?

>>6991081
because instead of drawing a gesture you made this post

>>6991082
How's that going to help me at this stage in my life?

>>6990948
certified westoid look

>>6991081
if you dont start getting into it before 25 its over

>>6991084
>how is drawing going to help me
you're right, it won't just keep being introspective and melancholy about it that'll get you where you want to be

>I-I'll do it! I'll finish a drawing!
>Draw Draw Draw Draw, Love it
>Wake up
>Don't like the drawing anymore and don't wanna keep drawing it

Crits? I used reference. I was bored and just drew from a random one. If you need the ref, feel free to ask.

>>6991091
How is it going to help me gain the years of experience I never got?

What can I improve on for next time?

>>6990948
love it!!!!!

Is it true that out of all boards /ic/ has the most female girls? If yes, 28, german 8 inch cock, 6 feet tall neet looking for gf

>>6991128
are you black? if not, please leave

>>6991088
so you're saying suicide is my only option

>>6991093
Read sticky. Complete recommendations or suffer as a perma-/beg/. You need to work on the basics.

>>6991133
no just start copying asians, your facial features have the westoid touch of doom

>>6991144
what about me? >>6990386

>>6990386
Your linework is absolute trash and your figure lacks life. Goes beyond me to why some people decide to color upon scribbled lines. Also westoid look.

What is so hard about to copy a face from a jap artist? I don't get it.

>>6991039
relax friend.
Here are some of my apples, maybe I was getting frustrated, I don't have brown paint so maybe I'm missing a part of the pallet they're using. I dunno.

>>6991153
I was going by this book, he says to add color on the sketch before doing the actual linework

>>6991153
besides that any actual feedback besides "just quit"?
I'm going off Japanese books and all my references are Japanese

>>6991157
yeah but the example actually looks more rough, yours looks like you put way more time in to it

>>6991141
What did you think was most lacking if you could be specific? I'd appreciate a redline too.

>picked up blender last month for the hell of it
>kind of gotten the hang of body modeling
>have absolutely no idea how to get face topology consistent so everything but the line looks wrong in side profiles

>>6991154
honestly your apple looks better than the book example. the only meaningful difference i see is that your color difference between light and dark park of the apple isn't as profound as in the book. They used light yellow and mud brown, while you used light yellow and greenish.

Try mixing orange (yellow+red) with black to get missing brown.

Paint on!

>>6990414
In all honesty, I believe both can occur. You're most likely getting crabbed if the person makes little effort to explain the actual flaws or seems more focused on insulting you as if they were a drill Sargent or Gordon ramsay.
When in doubt, PYW can always be a way to judge whether what someone says is something you want to listen to. I've heard some wacky takes before from nonartists.

I did not draw today. I slept, watched YouTube, and played video games. But it's okay, my dream is waiting for me later. My real life hasn't started yet.

>>6991166
fair, I am trying to be quicker, I spent too much time fiddling with stuff
Maybe I should be quicker to just delete and start over instead of trying to make a bad drawing good

>>6991228
N-no...

>>6991228
I drew
Everyone hated it

>111 pages of sketches
T-This is going to be one!

>>6991185
thanks anon, I brought it up cause it was exactly as you said. It was just generic insults with no real criticism. I'll try telling them "pyw" next time and see how that goes

Does anyone here do cartoon illustrations? I always liked drawings like that, but I have a feeling that the work would be harder to judge. For example pic rel the red character in the top left. How would you decide if you would improve it?

Also, pic rel is the most S0VL illustration book Ive ever seen. Check it out for yourself, its called "WOW! Illustration: Chunso's Dream World", only in chinese.

I am so lonely bros.. I hate this world so much.

>>6991172
>Proportions
>Depth
>Structure
>Anatomy
Which are all built off of an understanding of fundamentals. The sticky is your friend. Red-lining is for people struggling with observation and perspective. Those are not really your issues at this point. You just need to work on the basics.

>>6991321
Soul. GMI

Tried to draw a man from imagination

>>6991349
You should draw him a burger or something

>>6991332
Schizo anon, would you draw something with me together? You would draw like one half of the picture and I would do the other half. Something simple.

>>6991349
not bad anon

>>6991332
You need to redraw some of things you make to try and touch them up. You won't learn if you don't correct the mistakes you make. I otherwise appreciate the meme collages you make, it's a fun contribution to this sometimes harrowing thread.

>>6991358
Verification not required.

>>6991394
>>6991332
Your shit makes me mad. Just stop

>>6991397
Verification not required.

>>6991394
Im lazy so I half assed and gave up, but we did it

>>6991401
Makes me think, should we have a /beg/ drawpile? For special occasions of course ie the holidays.

>>6991093
It has good feel anon. Could you post reference?

I'm noticing on the face you didn't feel confident, so vaguely alluded to each feature with a line. It's fine not to show every part of the face on drawings like this, but you need to make a more conscious choice of how to simplify the forms.

>>6991332
How often do you finish a drawing anon? I want to see one of your completed pieces.

>>6990987
Choosing colours is something I'm terrible at, however I think you might want to try simplifying your colour pallet for a drawing like this one. You've got a lot and they are all over the spectrum from very saturated to not very saturated. Perhaps if you limited yourself to 4 or five major colours that look good next to eachother it would help? For some nice christmas pallets to reference look up Leyendeckers christmas drawings, They're a personal favourite of mine.

>>6990948
I really like this anon.

>>6990889
Super cool, I don't think the hands look unnatural

>>6990386
>Tried to see how far I can get in 2 hours
Maybe I'll keep practicing until I can get a good sketch in 2 hours
I don't know how you people do it so quick, it's not just the drawing but what about the time to visualize the fucking thing in your head and test out various things and see what works

I've been working a good bit since trying to draw again

>>6991455

>>6991333
I'm already working on these things so that's good. I'll just put in more hours and develop my anatomy. Most of the sticky is dead unfortunately, but I already have my own resources to fix this. Thanks.

>>6991456

Drew a picture of my mom and she laughed when I showed her it

>>6991429
Sure, here's the reference I drew from.

>>6991116
line art consistency

>>6989542

>>6991462
at least you got a honest critique, thats hard to get.

>>6991480
I guess that's a silver lining, could have been a little more constructive at least

>>6991477
This is great

incest girl uwu

struggling with the face but supposed to be that lady from the van halen video

>>6991493
nigga this is like a drawing made with sand, nearly everything is white, you can barely see shit

>>6991493
What do you think the teacher is going to look like this year?

>>6991496
I have a problem with having sensitive eyes and drawing everything from light to dark so its always low contrast to everyone else

>>6991506
song stays complete fire no matter how many times you play it

>>6990738
bro wtf
you need like 2 pencils (buy 2 each)
one HB and one 9b or 8b for easier values
charcoal costs like 50 cents for a pack which lasts a LONG time
a fountain pen is like 10 bucks if you want a gucci one, if you go with cheapest you can get like 5 for that money
enough ink to last until doomsday costs like 3 bucks
paper turns out to be most expensive for trad because you'll go through sketchbooks like mad so just get printing paper and for your more serious studies use a paper that's a bit more gucci
whole trad setup costs 30 euros
and once you start painting a waterbrush, a few normal brushes and a pack of watercolors is also like 10 bucks total
Art is as cheap as you want it to be just don't be a fag about it and buy shit you don't use, master the tools you get first and then slowly slowly expand as you get good

>turdworlder
>high /int/
>graphic tablet expensive af and can't find pen tablet anywhere
>can't find fountain pen anywhere
>resort to shitty ballpoint ink pens
>consistently shitty results

GOD

DAMMIT

Do you people know how lucky you are? I hope you do

>>6991534
bro if you were high int
you'd get a tablet covered with like 2 coms
fountain pains are all over the place you can get that shit in a zimbabwe bookstore for the past 50 years they've been in production like 120 years already

>>6991464
Alright so what I want you to start paying attention to is shapes and the angles of your pencil strokes.

When you observe a thing you want to draw, ask yourself exactly what angle the line should be, don't let your brain fill in an easy shape, observe it with your eyes. Notice in your drawing how far her left arm bends outward, compare the to the reference, this is likely because you knew that a bend was there, and you made a stroke without thinking about the angle it needed to be.

Another thing is the head was too small, try sketching very roughly the full height of the subject before going into detail, especially on a traditional medium.

>>6991537
That's great news for Zimbabweans. Unfortunately I'm somewhere else and I'm still searching. But I'm hoping to start doing commissions next year by tracing over drawings with vectors, though the thought already hurts my brain. Then I'll buy my tablet

>>6991534
Where do you live that you can't find a fountain pen lmao. Lying bitch, just draw.

>>6990768
>school pencils
>pack of blu-tack (malleable eraser)
>burnt wood for home-made charcoal
>ball-point pen
>pot of indian ink
>tiniest cheapest calligraphy brush you can find
>watercolour pallette if you want to get fancy
>collect armpit hair and tie it to a chopstick for a watercolour brush
that's all you need at the very most baby, expensive supplies does not an artist make

Merry Christmas. In honor of the Lord I won't be drawing today.

Does this looks like mariah carey?

>>6991543
Oh wow. This is actually exactly what I wanted. Did not expect this much effort from /ic/ honestly. Thanks anon, this is very helpful.

>>6991537
Not him, but in most shops I visited they only sold some shitty pens and blue ink. Either I need to find a specialized art shop or order from internet.

>>6991548
>just draw
I do, but regardless of what I do the line quality is so atrociously subpar I resort to drawing bigger to make it work. Even then it's not satisfying.
>>6991566
Ordering might be my last option too

>>6991534
You can get nice results with a ballpoint, don't blame your tools

>>6991462
first time I showed a drawing to my friend he said "is that handsome squidward?" and I was crushed inside. Kept drawing though :) Don't give up anon!

>>6991567
>>6991525
come join ASG anon, I feel at this point half my posts make up that general

>>6991601
okay
i didnt know that was a thing i only 4chan.org/ic/beg

>>6991598
This was the drawing, just for reference

>>6991623
Cool Jabba Hutt

>>6991623
is that hurely from lost?

>>6991676
I can see why people always draw fit people, drawing fat people is hard lol

>>6991682
why draw anything you cant jack off too

>>6991685
Different strokes for different folks, anon

R8 my frog. Also, would someone mind highlighting where the shadows should be please?

What is the best /beg/ painting book? I downloaded many, but they totally omit the basics of the actual painting itself. I want something like the YouTube videos that explain that painting is about cutting shapes, shape design, big-medium-small etc. All painting books treat the reader like he already knows what he's doing.

>>6991228
>My real life hasn't started yet.
Oh, anon... Stay innocent.

>>6990050
Faggot.

So I'm working on drawing in a 3/4 position

thing is I'm not really sure how to shade something in this position.

In particular the leg that he's leaning on has some weird shading that I'm not sure how to do, and I feel like there should be more shading on his face but his beard takes up a lot of it so I'm not sure

Any ideas?

>>6991567
>>6991601
If you want to make it, don't go there.

>>6991752
amigmi?
>>6991663

>>6991740
>omit the basics
>cutting shapes, shape design, big-medium-small etc.
That's about it.
>All painting books treat the reader like he already knows what he's doing.
And you know. Now pick up a pic and study it.

>>6991753
Yes, just work out your fundies

why is this so mind-numbingly terrible?
Why can't I add a flat color without it looking so fucking bad

>>6991758
whatever medium you used isnt crisp enough. use a nice crisp tapered pen tool

is it wrong to use porn as reference?

>>6991762
why would it be wrong

>>6991740
Try
- The Artist's Handbook of Materials and Techniques by Ralph Mayer
- Artist's Painting Techniques by DK

>>6991758
Humans are not grey

>>6991783
oh.. youre right
>>6991760
I REFUSE to belive it's a tool issue, it's always a skill issue, what kind of drawing ability lets you only draw with one brush?

>>6991789
young black doctor thorfinn?

>reply anon didn't show up this time
I'm actually sad

>>6991797
My drawing was that bad it killed reply-anon...

>>6991811
Reply anon actually stopped browsing 4chan as a whole after he saw my drawing

>>6991738

Where is the light source?

>>6991839
Probably like here?

i made a regular outfit for this girl. is this design too horny to use as the mascot of my personal website? perhaps shrinking down her fat milkers would help.

Pawell is going to post soon...I can feel it... in 3...2...1....

>>6991749
this is kino with the 4chan snowflakes

>>6991861
What's with the arm bandages? They seem more in theme with a fantasy edgelord instead of a modern looking person

Also it's fine, nothing too overtly sexual. The milkers could be a little bit smaller though.

>>6991870
i dont know i just wanted to do something with the arms so they looked less boring. ive been using cammy from street fighter as the face of my website for a while so i was thinking of giving her a scar somewhere as a sort of callback to cammy, but she's already pretty cammy-like so i'm not sure yet.

>>6990050
>special needs
lol
>ADHD, autism, learning disability
just act like you don't have it and it goes away
>my ADHD and executive dysfunction prevents me
no it doesn't
>can't understand basic trigonometry or math
not needed
>no hobby
pick one
>want to get good at drawing
just draw
>can't pick up a pencil
lol

merry Christmas (YOU)

I hate snow

Your dreams will wait for you tomorrow. Until then, watch YouTube, play video games. You have not started living the real thing yet, it's right around the corner.

None of the fucks on youtube tells you you should use a 4b pencil
I spent years drawing with hb or 2b, using a 4b will make your at 20% better immediatly

>>6991921
You want to keep a safe distance to what you really want
You can always hide, forever run
Accumulating reasons why, saying, "Well, I sorta tried," now they're faint
One of many games, they're all the same

>>6991438
Don't you use reference? Looks good though, take your time.

>>6991902
Brother needs some meat

>>6991429
I'll post this on the new thread too

>>6991996
based, you're my favorite schizo poster, at least you draw. Unlike the other schizos.

>>6992030
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