/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>6982915
This is going to rustle reilly-schizo's jimmies. I love it.

I still don’t draw.

>>6982915
Remember:
before criticising any of my work I post, I will require this information about you
1. your full name - name and surname
2. the address of your current residence
3. the address of your workplace
4. your marital status and the name of your spouse, if any
5. your annual wage, before and after tax
6. your license plate
7. your place of birth
8. the names of your parents
9. your credit card number and the expiration date
and finally you MUST post your work.
If but one of these points is not met, or, if I am unable to find a Wikipedia page about you, that matches the information you have given, that lists you as a prominent artist in any artistic field, all your critique directed towards me or my work is invalid and actually the opposite of what you say is true and my work is perfect and devoid of any mistakes.
Also, when you do criticise my work, you can not use any word included in the following list because your post will automatically get filtered by my automatic filtering system. You must treat me like a toddler when you criticise my work or I will cry.
https://rentry.org/za5t5

Let's keep it nice and civil in here, folks.

Legs

>>6982939
I like your stuff a lot
Do you have a blog

>>6982939
Lately I've been thinking that there's such a thing as too much anatomy, but that's not really a /beg/ conversation topic

3x 10 Minute portrait practice during work on cheap printer paper, what am I doing wrong portrait bros?

I know the theory behind Loomis but top down or bottom up perspective fucks with my little /beg/-brain. Any tips on that besides practice?

The guy is supposed to be Mads Mikkelsen, the lady is supposed to be Anna Wong from two different shoots.

References:
https://pin.it/5vm3ZTu
https://pin.it/4vjWHtv
https://pin.it/4QRUui4

I just recently started drawing, but I did my best.
Give me HARSH critique. If it’s not too much trouble, could you point out what I did good? Thank you <3

>>6982939
I CAME.

Reading stuff again

>>6982972
Tell me what you did wrong

how do i even start learning to draw
i am doing the draw a box exercises but its not REALLY drawing

Lazy drawing stolen from the anon over here >>6981853
t b h I just wanted to look at them titties

>>6982031
I was requested to show one of my finished pieces.

>>6982981
I wish I could read

>>6982939
hot

>>6982986
Don't bother with draw a box, it's a trap. Keys to Drawing is a better intro. Also read the sticky and OP

>>6982915

What is the correct way to study perspective?
I understand the concepts of 1, 2, and 3-point perspective in theory like how an object is supposed to look in relation to a vanishing point, but implementing it in an actual drawing is really hard for me.

What are some good head drawing courses? I already read and watched Loomis, Proko, Vilppu, Hampton, but it's all just theory. Brent Eviston courses from /ic/ torrent are good, because they focus on practice, is there something like this, but for head drawings?
I don't have anything against Just Drawing hundred heads, but I'd really prefer a video course, where everything is explained for retards (me), examples are shown and homework is explicitly given.

>>6983052
>Level Up Your Digital Portraits – Structure, Anatomy, and Stylization by Aisha
Haven't started it yet but this one might be good.

>>6982986
>brent eviston beg book, do all exercises (Art and science of drawing)
>proceed to go through vilppu or hampton, I prefer video course
congratulations you now know how to draw!

Go through every book at least 2 times though and just draw

>>6983055
i bought proko course but his pear is filtering me...

>>6982939
Your brain on Bridgman

>>6983076
your brain on POST YOUR WORK

>>6983007
construct a scene like pic related
if you can properly draw a brick in perspective you can draw anything

>>6983078
Your post on work your brain.

how's this for an initial sketch? anything too wrong?

Should i ink this or is it too crappy?

>>6983097
We all knew you wouldn't, bitch.

>>6983101
Generally the elbow will reach the belly button when arms are at the side, yours would only reach upper ribcage, arms too short. Hand was a little too small. I tried to change some things with the red line but I am not completely happy with it, oh well.

>>6983145
I always have trouble with necks.
Either too thick or too long.
God damn, you make it look easy.

>>6982987
Bro
Just use canon spacing and draw a head
This wire shit you use I bet the fucking riley guy used Loomis heads or some shit to learn how to draw a head and then made up the skitzo lines bullshit to monetize it

>>6983104
Looks kino
Ink

Gonna ask again, did I do this closely enough? I tried to redline the bones and muscles for the shoulders and neck, something about the clavicle looks wrong I think

I'm also curious if redlining anatomy on real figures can help me learn anatomy better

more tacos

I need some help, all the body don't convince me

How should I grind "lines" and proportions at home? Been going to figure drawing every week but I was sick for two weeks and barely drew.

Should I just draw a 100 figures in random poses in my sketchbook (from ref)? I already know how measuring works, plumb and level lines, etc. I'm just wondering if I should motivate myself with some autistic number or how I should trick myself into getting back in the "grind" needed to solidify all these skills.

>>6983166
you're gonna want to actually commit to your skeleton drawings
it looks like you're trying to do it as fast as possible
its not a study if you're not actually studying

get some skeletons and anatomy charts when you do this stuff and look back and fort while you're doing this

>>6983201
Her hips look way too 2D

Halp pls anons what do I do
Feel like I wont make it

Good morrow brothers, I tried my hand at a bridgeman today, and as an anon from the previous thread suggested, I used an A4 book of paper without any lines! What are we thinkin' fellas

>>6983254
Use a reference

>>6983258
Will draw more from reference, thank you anon!

>>6982990
You got down her facial features and overall lines pretty well. This woman is strikingly beautiful, though.

>>6983269
Try this, looks similar to what you were going for

>>6983217
>you're gonna want to actually commit to your skeleton drawings
Alright, I've just been studying each part of the body about a week each so it sticks to my head, gonna read through it for the major/muscles and bones then look back on it for focusing on details

>its not a study if you're not actually studying
That's a really good point

Also thank you anon for your input, gonna use Stonehouse Anatomy book whenever I'm stuck on anatomy

>>6983145
I think its bit better now.

>>6982990
Gtfo tracer fag, if you dont want to improve at least stop shitting up the thread with useless trash

>>6983319
I mean it's a little different

>>6983319
bro said fuck it and just traced *skull emoji*

I am consistently confused about this angle of the face. I think the pair of eyes are leaning towards viewer much more than nose and mouth

>>6983201
I'd work on the hips a bit and adjust the arms and shoulders. Otherwise it looks pretty good. I actually like your face more than my take, and I think I strayed too far from your style.

I would try a bit more solid shading, maybe a cel style? Or something along those lines. I don't think the scratchy lines are working right now. Also everything is kind of close in value, maybe darken the hair and clothes to give it more contrast? Hope that helps

>saw a local atelier instructor was offering free introductory art consultations
>fuck it might as well try
>spent most of the 1 hour session just talking about where I'm at and what my goals are
>I brought up perspective
>looked at me like picrel, chuckled then told me to just focus on figure drawing
what the fuck? I thought perspective was important?

>>6983339
Tell him to PYW
If it's any good then just hear him out
If not then just remember no one good does anything for free and leave

Sup beg, today i took it easy. Yes i know my boxes are wobbly, but honestly i dont see how that matters if you use them for construction only. The next drawing i will suffer greatly from more boxes.

>>6983339
i wouldnt take seriously any drawer who ignores perspective, even Loomis and Vilppu recc you to study perspective book if you struggle to draw a box
>>6983333
i see nothing to crab. if in doubt simply use reference and compare. maybe put eyes a little more closer but its not like everybody has PERFECT distance between them
>>6983256
i think you would benefit greatly from ditching pencil and doing it with pen like a chad
>>6983216
think less, draw more. the eye / hand coordination and hand stabilization levels up on its own every time you draw (from reference). if you want figures just pick up some figure book. vilppu, loomis, hogarth, bridgeman...
>>6983166
nicolaides made me to do this type of exercise. but first step was to draw the whole figure /body part from observation and THEN draw through the bones into it. you are skipping the drawing the figure part
>>6983104
booba grip
>>6982987
i bet there are asians who really look like this (aliens). put eyes a bit further apart and downwards so they are in middle
>>6982981
it is a little washed up to my taste, but honestly the dark background makes it pop nonetheless. nice dyno

>>6983364
gmi

I did not draw today. You see, I was tired and I rather watched YouTube. But it's okay. My real life has not started yet. Tomorrow, then.

>>6983387
>Tomorrow
Anon...

>>6983387
>tomorrow
no you won't the fog is coming

It's so over...

todays stuff. slowly developing a fetish for each body part i study

>dream that i would be able to draw some simple line coom at the end of the year
>still can't draw
fml, i hate dreaming

>>6983401
forgot to include my dumb doodles

Made some heads, some are a bit wack but I enjoy the comfortable process

>>6983405
where'd you learn to render faces like that, tough guy

>>6983323
>>6983319
>never drawn sight-size
>>6983333
To start, the corner of the far eye should be hidden behind the nose.
>>6983364
At least make sure your parallel lines in perspective aren't diverging. I expected better, Pawell.

>>6983406
You can tell he's hatching.

>>6983406
I didn’t really spend much time learning rendering itself, but having a mini asaro head to learn the planes has been immense and ive made some good progress this year

>>6983419
so do you just pick a random light source and shade/hatch?

>>6983427
Yeah, after doing enough of these and fixing your mistakes you start to learn patterns well enough to do them from imagination

>>6983428
okay tough guy, i like your moxy. i should pick up one of thoses heads

All these hard-boiled anons are really getting my blood pumping

>Special needs
>ADHD, autism, learning disability
>Have so many ideas for art but my ADHD and executive dysfunction prevents me from actually doing anything or even putting in a modicum of work
>Can't understand basic trigonometry or math
>Have never been able to commit myself to any serious hobby, dabbler at best.
>Want to now get good at drawing after years and years of wanting to
>Can't even pick up the pencil

Am I legitimately too retarded to be an artist? Every time I think about the fact that I can't do art, it makes me almost suicidally depressed and makes me nearly break down crying. I have friends that show me their art everyday and it pisses me off to the point where I want to fucking block them or tell them off. I can't do this anymore.

>>6983461
Thoughts on what this guy said in your other thread?
>>6983262

>>6983461
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/f/fa/Hwei_Original_MoveFirst_2.ogg/

>>6983462
stop replying to the schizo

>>6983461 howie schizo do not respond

>>6983465
>>6983462
stop responding

>>6983462
>>6983465
Don’t feed trolls
>>6983295
Couple takes on this pose in ballpoint. (For those wondering, I removed potentially de-anonymizing content.)
>>6982939
Good shit
>>6982967
Based, keep it up and keep working on accurate observation
>>6982972
You just need more fundies and more mileage. I recommend the proko beg course or the eviston beg course, and Betty Edwards’ book. Keys to drawing is good too. Those will teach you to see properly and then draw what you see (not what you think you see.) Just by drawing and finishing work and then posting it for critique, I can tell you’re gonna make it.
>>6982981
Gorgeous!
>>6982987
Maybe the Watts approach to Reilly would be interesting to you
>>6983059
Draw it then move on and come back to it later.
>>6983104
I dunno but those are excellent hands and I’m in awe
>>6983176
Based, looking good
>>6983216
Yeah, intentional, focused mileage is a huge part of gitting gud. Have you done any proper figure drawing courses like Vilppu, Hampton, Huston, Gnass, etc.? Might try that, too.
>>6983256
Based, GMI
>>6983311
Yep, way better
>6983319
>6983323
Lmao
>>6983364
You’re drawing boxes from imagination, right?
>>6983390
>>6983394
You need to stop feeding trolls
>>6983401
>>6983403
Lovely as always.
>slowly developing a fetish for each body part i study
Yeah that’s probably what it takes to get truly good at each one. Hiramoto Akira is an example. Every issue of Yokubou Pandora is an ode to the female body and the passion that comes through when an issue focuses on a specific part is enough to give me a temporary armpit/foot/back/mouth/whatever fetish. It’s terrifying.

>>6983478
that's some good stuff. where'd you learn to draw flowly/dynamically, tough guy

>>6983390
>>6983394
>>6983397
I did draw today bros. It was just color pencil doodles tho (still took relativily lot of time). wagmi.

>>6983478
>>6983476
Do you actually think that anyone with a genuine problem is a troll?

>>6983082
did pawell actually draw this from imagination or is this another study

>>6983478
Thanks for replying to my post. Mass repliers keep me going.

>>6983497
He built the bridge with his own two hands

>>6983166
>I'm also curious if redlining anatomy on real figures can help me learn anatomy better
idk

ok, Im happy with the colors now.

FUCK I RAN OUT OF ROOM
Is it terminal?

>>6983537
afraid so, you failed and a CRAB agent has already been dispatched to your location to break your wrists in a way that will make you incapable of ever using a pen again

>>6983508
looks like my hand poggies!

>>6983554
What games are you playing that you've completely wiped the lettering on the wasd keys. Also stop biting your pencils.

>>6983554
wash your mousepad bro
t. my mousepad looks worse

>>6983574
cheap 30 euro keyboard, mostly wow and overwatch, part of it was my cat who was chewing on the pencil
>>6983591
those are stars not dirt but it's pretty stained yes

I eyeballed the perspective in this and couldn't get the plates to look correct no matter how much I redrew them.

At the end I just used the transform tool until it "felt right", but I don't know what I did and why it's better.

I'll post more stuff next for comparison purposes.

>>6982915
are those drawings in the OP examples of begfaces, or examples of non-begfaces?

anyways, here's mine for tonight

Recent page from my sketchbook

>>6983608
1 was my initial attempt, eyeballing.
2 and 3 were two redrawn attempts, 4 is the grid in its final, most accurate version (which allowed me to draw 3).

But at the end >>6983608 this is just random transforming until it looks alright.

Any insight?

>>6983412
If you think that's sight-size, please go back to school and learn something for once in your life.

You can tell by the sloppy rag on her head that he gave up trying because its impossible to trace hair without knowing how to draw shapes.

Not a Howiepost it's just so frustrating when you've been drawing 2-3 hours each day for a week or more then one day you just... don't know what to do, where to go, what to draw. Especially when it's the weekend and you're going back into another week of shitty wageslaving. Completely wasted a day. Drawing fucking spheres and boxes out of desperation. Man.

>>6983621
just copy something

>>6983621
just draw a cute silly loli

>>6983630
>lawyer
what?

>>6983634
No offense to the original anon who posted it, I just like to simply compile what I see, but there was an anon a few threads back who said he should become a lawyer instead of drawing.

Post No.6952285

>>6983630
if you would put half the time you put into making memes(and viewing them)into actually drawing you would already be better than 90% of /beg/.

6 am here. Drunk. Depressed. Not drawing. It's over.

Happy Birthday Baby Gondola!

Ugly box rotations with no refs
>>6983481
Thanks, fren. The basis of my gesture drawing is mainly Vilppu and Hampton. Any “flowiness” might from paying more attention to rhythm through the limbs, trying to listen to what neco senpai was talking about in the threads a few weeks back. He said that my feet looked bolted on and the limbs weren’t very rhythmically in line with the rest of the figure. I’m still trying to work on that.
>>6983483
Oh, good job. Can we see?
>>6983492
No. Only people who repost copypasta and/or repetitively derail threads by bitching and baiting for (you)s without ever posting their work.
You can’t help the needy; there are too many of them. Instead, help the deserving.
>>6983504
:)
>>6983512
Excellent job, anon
>>6983535
That looks sick
>>6983537
Nah. You read the sticky, drew, posted your work. Verdict: GMI
>>6983608
>>6983613
For complex stuff like this, I’d plot out the perspective grid. At least until you’ve got it internalized like KJG. I’m probably retarded but I like 1 better. I think because in 3 you have the arm of the girl on the left overlapping too much of the end of the table. It makes it hard to read their position. It took a lot of staring to realize they were on opposite sides of a table. Version 1 is easier to read because the end of the table is more clearly visible. I think her body language is better in 3, if she’s meant to be defensive of the food, wolfing it down and kinda trying to shield it from the other girl. Pretty good foreshortening, but the girl on the right’s shoulder is disconnected from her torso. Or maybe you have her neck too far over to the side, as if rather than bending her neck, you just slid it over
>>6983612
I like the leg rhythms and shapes. Those calves and feet remind me of Bridgman. The knees looks bit… serrated for my taste. But overall great job.
>>6983610
Breddy gud hands and feet. W-what’s that girl doing?
>>6983621
Copy a book or do a course. Also, boxes are fine

>>6983665
It's bedtime now but I'll start Hampton tomorrow.

>>6983665
>Those calves and feet remind me of Bridgman
I'm like 99% sure it might actually be from him, because I did read and copy a bit of him. I think proko also does something similar who ultimately takes from other artists advice and condenses it, so I guess maybe proko got it from bridgeman too.

Oh yeah, also some gestures from imagination. Also in ink.
>>6983662
This is fucking adorable, anon
>>6983665
>one off
Fuck
>>6983668
Based, Hampton is pretty good. Sleep tight, fren.
>>6983675
Oh, based. I’m gonna do the Bridgman thing when I’m done copying Hampton’s book.

still working this one

and this one. i keep changing the position of her breasts and the goblin.

Sketches of the day.

>>6983652
It’s okay i stopped drawing too it’s for the best.

>>6983652
it's never over, you better listen up buttercup. You have been equal cursed and bless with a need to create beautiful art. You just need to get over this hurdle and draw again. Don't give me that bullshit of art block, that's why we have each other. Draw someone else's things, draw boxes, draw boxes fucking for all I care coomer. All I know is you better fucking draw, paint or mold something. You're drunk ass needs to doodle and if it didn't wanna draw you won't be on here in the first place.

Draw DAMN YOU, DRAW!!!

>>6983652
this
iwn be able to draw my favorite characters... only keep drawing lines and circles just because i like my drawing tablet + drawing program aesthetics

>>6983719
in the nicest possible way you have to study anthro shit because your furries are terrifying

>>6983665
Fisheye anon here.
Thanks for all the insight, indeed the arm covering the far corner of the table obscures visibility, every time I stray away from my initial sketches something like this ends up happening.
>until you've got it internalized like KJG
The purpose of eyeballing it was to practice those muscles, but yeah, it's a long road.
Neck I hadn't realized, now I see it.

Your boxes don't seem to share the same perspective, so I don't know what to make of it. You're at least practicing many angle variations, but the real challenge to me is making them all consistent between themselves.

>>6983665
>W-what’s that girl doing?
Flying with cardboard, apparently. I don't get it either!

Getting back into the exercises from Keys to Drawing, this was my attempt at a 3/4 view drawing. My dad had a hard time sitting still for the whole hour so it made getting some of the subtleties a little more difficult

Alright, back to Hampton
>>6983738
>>6983739
>>6983742
Those are fucking great, who’ve you been studying? Your shapes are lovely
>>6983747
You’re also based.
>>6983773
Yeah, the boxes are kinda rough lol. Just did em while idly watching ghost videos on YouTube. I haven’t given much attention to perspective practice, just rotating forms. I wonder if I even could get them to all look like they were in the same scene at my current level, kek.
>>6983795
Man that’s weird. Doesn’t look very comfy.
>>6983802
>Getting back into the exercises from Keys to Drawing
Good!
>this was my attempt at a 3/4 view drawing.
Not bad, anon.
>My dad had a hard time sitting still for the whole hour
That’s very wholesome. :)

>>6982915
Why did he (Andrew) lie to us

Got into the habit of drawing almost everyday but I've neglected studying, mainly doing figure drawing, vilpu boxes and scribbles. Need to get further into Keys to Drawing, do some of the exercises there again and try still life drawings

>too horny
>coom
>not be able to perceive the aesthetic side of drawing for a while
meh
just when will i become old enough so my libido fucking die?

>>6983845
Just take finasteride bro
Its prostate medicine you'll be able to piss, your hair starts growing more and your libido dies

>look at timelapses
>none of them build up from boxes
??????????????

First time tried to draw something with pressure brush and from imagination after 5-6 months of studying sometimes
How I'm going?

>>6983865
>pressure brush
Fuck, I mean opacity

>>6983865
doin well
try setting the density to how hard you press or play around with different densities if you can

A bunch of 2b

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FB8HmCEgFU

I have been watching this artist's videos for a while I really like the way he renders, but after the lineart, especially at the coloring I'm lost. Can someone tell me and help how would you even approach this style of rendering?

Today is the day.
Back to loomis...

back to the road to fucking nowhere...

I am literally shaking and sweating from stress when I am not drawing. I am physically unable to go one day without at least doing some studies. I guess at least it keeps me from being a nodraw.

Just drawing one of these bargue line drawings makes me go "ok I'm tired now" even though this is still the super easy mode stuff...

>>6984019
Based.
If you want to torture yourself even more, try drawing with cheap color pencils.

>>6984019
drawing is just mentally exhausting especially if you're still new and you have to activate 200% of your brain to do it
it'll get better

>>6983738
Is this your oc? Can I draw her?

rip this angle killing me again

>>6984049
It's better, keep practicing

what is it with fags taking a drawing towards finishing and calling it a sketch

>>6983887
looks shit

>>6983554
This schizo is posting his hands again

Anons, can you show me an artwork where you were not thinking about technicality, you just drew by pure fun?

>>6984083
this one

Probably this was asked to death, but what is the simplest technique to learn for casual drawing?

>>6984109
what do you mean?

>>6984126
PYW

>>6984077
pyw

>>6984077
Like your face

>>6984109
Picking up a pencil and just drawing.

I've been sitting here for an hour, my breakfast has gone cold and now I'm just crying
Fuck dude why
Why can't I just get the fucking ideas out of my fucking head and make them look good on paper
Why can't I just sit down and fucking draw it
Why can't I just keep drawing when I mess up
Why can't I just accept I'm barely starting and I'm not going to be good at the art I make
Why can't I just sit down and read the sticky or the books provided
Why can't I just calm down and stop feeling sick with worry or hate for what I draw
Why can't meds make it work
Why can't therapy sort it out
Why do I just burn out on my therapists in weekly sessions
Why can't advice stick
Why can't I just stop caring about art and just enjoy wow classic sod and devote my energies to what I'm good enough at and not care about all these things in my head

Why can't I even fucking kill myself and be rid of this disconnect because intent and action

AND WHY DID ALL OF THIS GET SET OFF BECAUSE I CAN'T FUCKING IMAGINE THIS FUCKING CUNT WITHOUT A HAT ON. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUCK HER HAIR WOULD LOOK LIKE AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO ASK OR LOOK UP REFERENCES FOR AND EVEN IF I DID IT WOULD SUCK IT WOULD SUCK LIKE ME

WHY CAN'T I JUST DRAW OR CREATE OR DO ANYTHING NORMAL AND NO NO I'M NOT GOING TO /ADV/ I TRIED THAT WHEN I TRIED JUMPING OFF OF A PARKING LOT AND THE FUCKING MOBILE FILTER SYSTEM BLOCKED MY THREAD

SO YOU RESOLVE IT

YOU TELL ME WHY I CAN'T FUCKING WRANGLE MY GODDAMN BRAIN INTO A PROCESS THAT DOESN'T FEED INTO MY SELF-LOATHING AND FEAR

OR JUST TELL ME HOW TO KILL MYSELF EASILY I WANT TO MAKE A THING THAT I COMPLETE AND PEOPLE CONSUME IT OR I WANT TO BE DEAD I DON'T WANT TO KEEP LIVING MAKING NOTHING OF WORTH I DON'T WANT TO KEEP LIVING MAKING NOTHING OF WORTH I DON'T WANT TO KEEP LIVING MAKING NOTHING OF FUCKING WORTH>

>>6984161
This is /beg/, schizo general is that way
>>>/i/

>>6984161
Carnivore diet cures depression

>>6984180
No. I tried living on nothing but fish, chicken, and the occasional steak for a few months. It was suffering just living.

>>6984171
What makes you think he’s a schizo?

mfw bodies are wonky

>>6984191
holy shit heavy tf2

friend mentioned the hand looked weird last time so I fixed it but I forgot how to do the lighting

>>6984201
Now draw her stepping on my balls

>>6983650
I wish it were that easy, I’m probably like 2 standard deviations below the learning-speed bell curve

>>6984216
Post ref pic?

>>6984223

>>6984161
take your meds

>>6984088
This is good and nice

still shit but at least some improvement
aiming for it to not be shit in the next attempt

>>6984248
Aren't the eyes too close together?

>>6984257
yes

>>6982915
I'm drawing my aunt. Are my values ok?

>>6984161
wish my art was as "bad" as yours dude

>Wanna learn hands
>Every video made by some old dude starts off like this
it's so over

>>6984328
Almost like it's an effective way to learn hands huh.

>>6984334
effective way to put me to sleep

>>6984302
ugly bitch

>>6984337
this better for you?

>>6984347
>no movie broken up into parts
you tried/10

>>6984347
needs more soap

>>6984310
That's not my art. That's a character sheet from a TV show called The Owl House that one of the show's artists made of a voiceless background character, that I'm trying to wrangle into a fanfic AU/swap/something cartoon coalescing all my ideas I had while the show was airing. The girl's one of the love interests I want to explore so I have to get better at drawing her, no one reads fanfics. No one reads. I don't fucking read.

This is what I drew today. This is what set me off, I tried drawing the head and did the jaw too wide, and then I tried drawing the front bang, couldn't do that, got angry, crumpled it up and tried to make a post on /ic/ of what to do to fix it next time. Then I deleted that and tried to make a post on what references to look up. Then I deleted that to get back to the bigger issue of why I can't sit down and power through the sticky for more than ten minutes. Then I deleted that, stabbed a gatorade bottle, put the knife to my throat and screamed at myself to just fucking do it, do something, and then I just threw it across the room and creid, and then I made that big post of cant's.

I've tried adderall and I ended up drawing nothing ever and hating life more, I tried therapy and it went in circles. I want to make art, to give my life a purpose. I feel like getting these ideas out of my head and onto paper is the only way I can feel happy with what I'm doing and, I just, it doesn't come out right. And I fucking hate that. I know I'm not going to be good for a long time, but I want to at least feel confident enoguh to come up with a hair idea. But like, look at that shit, the headgear's damn near flat with her skull, and those pony tail in the back and the bang up front give a hint, but I don't know where the fuck to go with it. and It paralyses me, and I build tension, draw a right angle and it's WRONG WRONG WRONG so I try again and that's WRONG WRONG YOU ARE WRON YOU DREW IT WRONG and then I crumpled it up and here we are.

>>6984375
Pic related's something else I drew of stuff like that so you can see why this is frustrating me. Sometimes the mind's eye gets dropped to paper easily, and the weird sun shadow creature that manipulates the flames below him into little body forms looks great, sort of, the bell thing up top fucked up, but that was at the end of the art so I didn't freak out.

It's easier to draw when I haven't made what I percieve as a mistake, but if the mistake is right at the start I can't complete the work. I wish I couldn't just feel so sick to my stomach about art mistakes, stepping away from the drawing and typing it after the fact it's like 'yeah no shit you're just starting' but in the moment none of that's running in my head, it's runing YOU FUCKED UP, YOU FUCKED IT UP AND IT'S RUINED JUST STOP IT YOU ARE WASTING TIME

>>6984347
>tfw unironically have adhd and trying to keep my attention on anything for more than 10 minutes
suffering, too broke for ritalin

>>6984385
>>6984375
just keep going you can self critique and try to understand how to get better once you finish the drawing
no point over getting mad this is part of the journey
guess this is why so many great artists were fucking bonkers in the head

>>6984375
I can't help you with your powerful autism but her hair would probably look like a french double fishtail under the hat
https://youtu.be/pqz_HsnXh0g?si=PtlsrJnpPIxSqWot

>>6984141
>>6984146
Thank you

>>6984393
What about the front part though? That doesn't fit the style of the fishtail hairstyle.

Fuck Loomis this is so lame

>>6984328
Is this vilppu?

>>6984083
>He draws for fun

>>6984407
>>6984171
Already gave you the perfect example

>>6984419
Sorry, yeah that's a good example, I didn't click the image because you told me to fuck off so I assumed it was a reaction image.

Doodles from imagination. Some even look like hands.
>>6984183
>nothing but fish, chicken, and the occasional steak
Ah, no wonder you felt like shit, anon. I actually can’t believe you made it a couple months on just that. First of all, eating such lean stuff will give you rabbit starvation. Eat fatty cuts of beef like brisket or chuck, or if that’s too expensive, buy the cheapest and fattiest ground beef you can. Maybe add butter and (pastured) eggs if you want. Done correctly, a carnivore diet is basically an animal-based ketogenic diet. You want at bare minimum 65% of your calories coming from fat, because when you stop eating carbs, you have to replace them with fat because you can’t use protein efficiently for fuel.

The other huge issue is monogastric animals like chicken and pork are hugely influenced by their diet. We feed our livestock grains and fill them with PUFAs. Pork and chicken especially end up with highly unsaturated fat. Ditto for farmed fish. Unless they’re heritage breeds that have been pasture raised, I don’t eat them. That shit’s expensive not as good as beef or lamb, so I don’t bother with it. Ruminants don’t have this problem because of how they metabolize their food. That’s why you can eat cheap grain fed beef and be just fine. Dr. Anthony Chaffee or Dr. Ken Berry are a great jumping off point for how to get started doing carnivore. Kelly Hogan is good too. Later on, you can slowly experiment with adding stuff back into your diet along the lines of what Bill Schindler talks about, but I haven’t bothered to.

t. put treatment-resistant suicidal depression into remission for going on five years

TLDR: eat fatty beef, drink water, never give up on yourself

>>6984423
You need to take better control of your emotions or you're ngmi. It's just lines on paper bro. You're not gonna run out of paper and you can always resharpen your pencil, so keep going. Failing over and over again is part of the process.

>>6984410
XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Loomis can eat a ass I'd rather draw a fist

Oh it's AI bait nvm

Tried drawing from imagination for the first time. Just some image I saw in my dreams couple days ago. Kinda gave up on making this look not shit towards the end. At first I was upset, but then I realised, that just couple months ago I wouldn't be able to draw even close to this shit. Looking forward to redrawing this in a year. And now back to studies.

Not really feeling this one, still can't figure out line weight

>>6984479
May not be the exact art style you're going for, but it may help.

>>6984427
Sorry bro but you're drawing kangaroos wrong

>>6984407
>>6984161
idk anon, please don't have a mental break about the owl house.

The style is simple. If you're drawing from the real world good, but it's a cartoon at the end of the day. The hair won't make perfect logical sense. You have to make trade offs over what would be actually correct and what looks good.

Just keep drawing and make bad art until one day you can make good art.

Hello beg. Today i dont feel like i deserve anything so i wont mass reply. It is very beg.

>>6983497
i only recently started tackling drawing from memory. All my pre loomis stuff are copies. Though in that one particular i copied the process, not the reference as usual 1:1

some doodles from last week i wanted to share somewhere

>>6984573
wtf lol this got compressed like shit

>talk about Reilly drawing method that I read about
>later on, see anons showing pics and videos of such method
>completely unlike what I saw in the book
>check the book again
>it was actually written by Brent Eviston
sorry

>>6984542
>spend months grinding perspective
>can't do a grid of boxes
i don't mean this in a snarky way but was it worth it?

>>6984542
You feel the mass replies are some sort of reward for yourself? Are you a masochist or something?

>>6984347
lmao

I think I should draw giant robots instead of that shit

why is there never an /int/ - /adv/ thread? are none of us good enuff?

>>6984612
why not make the giant robots into sexy pinups

I Wanted to challenge myself with a tricky pose but I cant figure out how her boob should connect, could someone give me a hand or point out other mistakes?

>>6984642
if you're /int/ you should just draw in the /draw/ thread
if you're /adv/ hire an actual art instructor

At what point did you guys decide that you had enough promise to keep going? The worst part about being a /beg/let is that feeling of uncertainty where I have no idea if my efforts will ever bear fruit and I should just cut my losses.

>>6984642
/beg/ is a containment thread for rudimentary issues.

>>6984655
I was told I was NGMI so I decided that proved I have no promise.

>>6984657
And they were right lol

>>6984513
>>6984436
I took a walk, got some actual pencils and highliners and gave it another shot. I wasn’t sure if I wanted to color it in with the highliner so I took pic related before I got started. She’s supposed to be wearing a cheongsam here but I need to work on that

>>6984668
The ears look like that because that’s what the show makes them look like. I tried doing that ‘glossy look in the direction of light’ that jet black hair does, and I tried coloring in to the countours of the hair and the bangs in the front. Maybe coloring with highliner was a bad idea. Mass reply mentioned crosshatching a month or so ago to me, I’ll try that on the next one.

>>6984673
Goddamnit forgot pic.

>>6984659
I know. But for some reason this makes everyone here pissy.

>>6984646
It’s pretty good actually problem is you have the arm raised a bit so you should be able to see some of that armpit and it’s a contrived bundle of muscles meeting at a point with the teres major peeking from behind as a lil triangle behind the bigger yet still smol rectangle that is the armpit which is surrounded by the bigger masses of the breasts and the biceps which is dropping down.
Overall you have a nice pose going, you may wanna keep it as it is and unless the coomer is fapping to dam or really high level fakku hentai, then you are good.
Your style looks quite similar to legoman’s stuff, so you may sell it as it is and it would still hold some pretty good appeal.

>>6982915

>tried studying form
>Decide to do a kinda sketch concept with adding form
>It still looks flat
What the fuck am I doing wrong?

>>6984701
?
You didn't add any form.

>>6984706
In the sketch I did the shapes but when I add details its magically gone what the fuck.

>>6984707
it's flat because there's no form. form = 3D objects. try a more dynamic pose and imagine the character in a 3D space. it should be especially easier to practice because the dude is mostly made up of cubes

>>6984708
I just can’t fucking imagine it and do that.

todays stuff. slowly getting feet, but at the same time i'm not kek

>>6984709
bro turn him 45 degrees and raise an arm it's not rocket science

>>6984711
You're doing great. Keep it up.

>>6984712
What makes me mad is that there is no form shape resource like poses. God its all confusing

>>6984718
It's not really all that complicated. Plenty of resources online. You could probably make your rectangle guy out of cardboard or paper and use that as a posable reference, too.

Is it possible that we are living inside hell right now? Drawing good is my most important dream. More important than getting a girlfriend. Yet, touching my pencil is torture. Unlike touching my penis.

>>6984714
thanks fren

>>6984701
>>6984718
Using basic shapes on wrong way. Looks like you just draw couple cubes, circles and then line that without any basic form and/or line of action.
I can see that before you starting to draw you think about a robot and small details of him(eye's, mouth, bomb on the chest ect), think more about the silhouette when people would look at that they will see whole body, pose, emotion of gesture(like if the character was whole black) and only after that think on things that inside.

Fuck drawing. What a stupid fucking bullshit. It just reveals my faults, makes me feel like shit, wastes my time, reminds me of being a failure, extremely hard etc. Retarded.

>>6984740
The talent blackpill is brutal.
But ultimately, it's all predetermined.
YHWH/Zeus simply just pointed a finger, and bam, he's born as a 6'5 ultrachad.
Nothing more in life.

>>6984744
I don't care about talent, asian jeans, working as an artist, etc. I just wish I could be in a good mindset right now, I'm just ranting.

A few weeks ago I was making a charcoal drawing. I was in total flow, contantly refined it over and over again, worked with a confident hand for 6 hours total. Right now, I'm none of that, I feel like a weak pussy that cant make a good sketch. Mentally not there at all.

>>6984735
My problem is that, yeah I added the lines but how do I keep it looking 3d after I add the details?

>>6984740
Drawing is a test at if you're able to make it in life.

If you can learn drawing and start learning how to learn and not hate yourself, you have mastered one of the most important skills in life. You are learning 2 skills at once.

Is it a bad habit to always use the undo button until the line is right?

>>6984771
technically but fuck em

>>6984771
i've seen rinotuna undo a line for a minute straight multiple times. use them tools, boi

>>6984771
that's literally what it's there for

>>6984752
By learning about how working perspective, shadow and light

>>6984771
no, but it's a bad habit to take tradfag schizo ramblings as genuine advice

whats wrong with it?

The whole canvas filled with Hampton legs!
>>6984410
Read Betty Edwards and/or the Proko beg course or Eviston or Keys to Drawing. I think that will help you. Also, use reference.
>>6984412
This looks familiar which means you did a decent likeness. Good job! I like the bow tie
>>6984417
That’s cute
>>6984449
Very good. The knuckles should curve in an arch with the middle finger knuckle kinda being the most prominent.
>>6984461
Based as fuck attitude, anon. You’re gonna make it.
>>6984479
David Finch has a good line weight tut
>>6984507
Fug. I will redouble my efforts
>>6984542
Wait, you like mass replying? I kinda hate it. Takes me for fucking ever. You’ve gotta construct figures and do gestures from models or finished art, not just copying what you see in books. Do actual figure drawings. Maybe try the Vilppu Renaissance Figure Course. He demonstrates how you draw from timed poses and then makes you do it yourself. I think that would be good for you.
>>6984564
>>6984566
>>6984573
Fun and soulful, good job!
>>6984577
It happens
>>6984612
Do it
>>6984642
They’re all in the drawpile thread
>>6984646
Find reference
>>6984655
I didn’t
>>6984674
>actually drawing
BASED. Her collar, the foreshortening of her eyes, obscuring her far ear, etc. show you understand form. It’s imperfect, sure, but you’ve got potential. Especially if stress has made it difficult to practice.
Try lower-stakes stuff too, like doing circles, lines, boxes, tubes, and gestures as “warmup” instead of as “drawing.” Disposable throwaway doodles done on autopilot for mileage. You’ll practice confidence in the sense that you automate the process of “lol this circle came out triangular. Next circle.” Without even thinking about it. Just shit out pages of nonsense to get comfy
>>6984688
NICE
>>6984752
Rotate forms & wireframe them with cross-contour lines. The details in drawings are just contour lines
>>6984427
PS—also helps my adhd, autism, & anxiety
>>6984711
Beautiful!

>>6984840
Look pretty decent, keep going

>>6984841
my favorite poster

>>6984646
...Coloranon?

lil guy

Low effort drawing because shit mood, but I can go to bed as a draw chad (as opposed to nodraw cuck). daily draw day 3

>>6984922

>>6984161
I guess I'd feel doomed if my life depended on art but your art is not bad anon

>>6984646
>>6984681
With the torso overlapping the legs some of the subtlety within the armpit area might get lost, unless you want it to be a focal n you might as well keep it simple and let it recede back as one dark value into the bg

First the first time I feel blackpilled

I looked at Pawells deviantart, how can someone draw so much, study such high quality sources

and STILL look P R E B E G

>>6984952
Simple. Genetics.
He is polish - 'people' who are thoroughly mutted and raped throughout history by mongols and huns and krauts; ultimately this means their IQ is too low to achieve anything significant, no matter the effort.

>>6984960
He is not polish, thanks for proving your ideology is made up to fit whatever you want to say

>>6984952
pawell's undeniable but seemingly disconnected progress makes me think fundies don't matter as much as we think and that the best way to learn is to just start doing what you want and pick up everything else you need for it along the way through mileage and mistakes

>>6984952
Looks like a case of drawing without thinking. In those gesture exercises, is he copying and pasting the examples from the book next to his attempts or is he just doing each one twice+? If it's the latter then he really is just drawing without considering what he's doing because there's not much improvement between them.

>>6984952
it's a testament of his own ideology
he's a right wing schizo that rants about "globohomo" and feminism.
Every person's actions are filtered through their own ideology, his art is as ugly as his brain

>>6984944
>>6984681
the hubris of this guy

>>6984961
Im just reading the thread now who is this guy and whats his backstory
Gimme the scoop

The one on the left was from last night, the one on the right is from tonight. I hate how much attitude affects my ability. Granted right's source is a simpler/easier but I was feeling good while drawing it and it's coming along so much smoother

>>6984681
Thanks for helping me visualize it, hows this?
>>6984881
Hey hey

>>6984688
the eternal sketchlet

>>6984990
There's nothing wrong with any of those

>>6984989
>Hey hey
Hah! Knew it!
Stop deleting your accounts you douche, I like your art! You're better than you give yourself credit for.

What kind of pencil should I use for practising? (just starting to learn the basics of figure/gesture).
I have a 7B lying around and draw with that but maybe something else would be good

some sketchbook stuff from a few days ago

getting a bit better with this angle, going to try a new reference maybe

>>6984997
nothing good about them either

>tried drawing when i was 15, got overwhelmed, panicked, and gave up
>tried drawing when i was 21, got overwhelmed, panicked, and gave up
>26 and want to try drawing again
>one night i almost panic again, but unlike all the other times I manage to talk myself out of it
>draws an arm, it doesn't look that great but that's okay
>draws an arm the next day, it looks a little better
I think I'm gonna make it

>>6984747
Imagination rendering

>>6985150
gmi

∆thoughts? (and prayers)

>>6984771

>>6984771

>>6984841
Based mass encouragement poster. Good legs.

>>6985188
her huge tits flopping out looks ridiculous
stiff, boring pose
the foreshortened arm looks weird, other one is clearly an after thought.
'forced' extreme angle for no reason
dull expression
looks like some meaningless anime slop that AI would spit out.
only decent thing is the rendering.

Pawell might be grinding his wheels stuck in mud rn but if he fovused on simple straight lines, curves, ovoids, cylinders and boxes for a month.
His art would take him to high beg or int
The way he constructed that bridge is kino

>>6984952
When he draws what he wants instead of the fundie shit, it looks better. He's shit at painting doe
Maybe he's past the threshold where fundies can be very useful and he needs to draw on his own or do master studies

>>6982939
Why are you like this, drawing the legs and body so wrong but do all right for the face

>>6985212
>past the treshold
If you can't draw identical simple shapes at size or will, draw a straight line or a curve unilaterally both directions any length across the paper and have a good sense of forshortening boxes you are not past the most basic stuff and your skill levels are pretty much softcapped by this.
Think about it
Human body can be broken down into basic shapes, ovoid for head, ovoid for torso, boxy ovoid for hips, tapering cylinders for legs, even eyes and brows are simple curved lines.
If we go by Vilppu, the viewer sees the lines you drew.
Difference between a beg and an int is
- quality of line
- quality of simple drawn shapes
-accumulation of knowledge about perspective, anatomy, composition
These can all be learned by reading but drawing simple shapes in perspective

Pawell is missing the discernment to self-correct. You don't go through 10+ books and still draw like that if you're not fixing mistakes in your process.

It's as if he does a copy, looks back at the reference and sees his mistakes, but then either can't comprehend what to change to get a better drawing next time, or is completely apathetic to arriving at something tasteful and moves on. It's bewildering to see someone who is programming-inclined, which requires problem solving, going through books seemingly thoughtlessly and with pure rote copying and from-memory attempts like it will solve anything.

>>6985112
thats not a sketch, its a finished drawing, and you calling it a sketch doesnt make it any better

>>6985272
it's just a filename little bro

>>6985316
no it isnt

>>6985271
The scariest thing to imagine is doing art for as long as he does and still being shit

>>6985323
2 years isn't that long, it's not even long enough to get good at a game in most cases

>>6985324
I've been at it since I was a kid and I'm still dogshit. Time means nothing without real effort

maybe
instead of drawing
i should just
kill myself

>>6985155

>>6985337
You can't ever get better if you die, anon

>>6985339
More contrast damn it

2 hours and nothing works and my day is ruined and im losing it

>>6985354
Time to learn a different head drawing approach https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T7cDY7YDsg
first hour is the lesson.

Got bored at work, did a pencil sketch of Azur Lane 's Nevada (who is canonically a horse girl) leaning on a 1969 Boss Mustang.

I also got to test out my new Leuchtturm 1917 sketchbook, it's good stuff.

>>6984989
No problem, looks quite good!

>>6985155
that looks like a flexing arm but with a foot attached to it

>>6985354
>try new thing
>not instantly good with it
>day ruined
NGMI, anon. You will fail for weeks and months and only then you'll be "kinda ok-ish". You ARE willing to push through months of grind, right?
Btw try drawing heads from references first and apply construction to them, rather then just going from imagination with 0 experience.

>>6984990
>>6985147
anon, what has upset you this much?

>>6985409
who's upset?

>>6985008
My pixiv account is still up but I intentionally locked myself out of it to keep it as an archive. if youre on discord I come and go from that platform for irl reasons. It has more to do with not wanting any of my private convos being out there.

Anyway I now post my content on relevant serves giantess stuff is posted under "introductions", if you're from lm's server its under "art help-discussion", the crate its on completed works, I don't use the violet server anymore however because. The rest are on /d/ venus, giantess, and aco. Idk also its kinda of my thing to make junk then randomly post it places, its more fun for me than twitter or something because the interactions are more personal

I am almost ready. I just need to hoard some more materials:
>grey tinted sketchbook
>oil pastels
>colored pencils
>new paint brushes
>watercolor paint
>gouache
And then, I will be finally ready to make one (1) 5 minute sketch of an anime girl in 3/4 view with blank face in a white void

Unsure if this is the right place to ask, but does anyone have any recommendations for like a "How to draw Manga/anime" book that doesn't suck complete ass, is in English and a child could understand? I want to get a book like that for my niece for Christmas. Any other recommendations as well

>>6985486
Fair enough

>>6985198
New board banner just dropped

>>6985523
>>6985523
>>6985523
>>6985523
>>6985523

What art books would be best for a beginner high school student to learn from?

>>6985670
underage?

>>6985690
no. my sister is making an art class curriculum and I want to send her some reference material in case it's helpful.