/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>6970510
Is Vilppu good for a beg?

>>6970510
Remember:
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Let's keep it nice and civil in here, folks.

How do you get perspective lines to match at the vanishing point on the horizon? I get things off very slightly and it fucks things up, I'm aiming at the specific point, and using my ruler but it's not perfect. Maybe I should draw less difficult angles? Maybe I should buy one of those thumbtacks that rotate on the top?

Fucking shit, I literally can't see mistakes until I mirror the drawing. What's wrong with my brain? Am I super retarded?

Poor Flakey

>>6970528
that's how everyone's brain works, that's why mirroring the canvas easily is so useful in digital

Gun range activities

Pulled over activities

>>6970535
So what do I do if I'm drawing on paper? literally hold it up to a mirror?

>>6970556
You okay anon?

>>6970556
me on the right preparing to OD on all my schizo pills

>>6970561
yes or take a picture with your phone and flip it on there

>accidentally posted to previous thread

I’m going away for a few months and need to choose which books to bring with me and study.

I’ve been told that my construction, gesture, and anatomy are good, but I need to improve my sense of proportions (My problem areas are always in the lower half of the body). I’ve thought of packing Loomis’ figure drawing book for this purpose.

Additionally I have no experience with design and composition, and want to start studying animation. Which books would be best to consider bringing for these purposes?

would you have sex with him?

>>6970563
my drawings don't reflect my state of mind

can you spot the mistake that most of these have in common? I feel like it has something to do with the side plane of the face but not sure

eyes are so simple in concept but suck in execution

i suck at lower angles but im getting better at them i guess

>>6970615
eyes and mouth are drawn straight as opposed to curved to follow skull on 3/4 views
receding mouth and jaw
weird proportions

construct more precisely also use refs. check out loomis drawing the head and hands if you haven’t already

please give line art/line weight tips.

>>6970626
remember prims

>>6970607
i'd throw him off the nearest rooftop

>>6970635

Pyw

>>6970607
If he didn't have tits I might consider it.

>>6970642
Something i've been working on recently.
Nothing too special, also its a crop. but I feel like the lines are not interesting?
Feel like im missing detail, or perhaps the shapes are too simple?
Feels lacking.

>>6970609
Nice work so far. Finish the job, 621.

>>6970609
Nice linework so far, mang. dayum.

Back on the portrait grind. I'm pretty happy with 3, kinda whatever with 2 and not at all happy with 1; and glaring issues besides my lack of practice?

References:
https://pin.it/5Zu3m3M
https://pin.it/5akDEOV
https://pin.it/2wzmrJg

I mirrored this early and I think it might look OK. Is this passable?

>>6970615
What sticks out most is the elongation of the jaw and the low muzzle of the mouth. Unless that's the look you're going for, the distance from the bottom of the nose to the top the mouth is rarely that far.

50% done

Some one minute gestures

>>6970694
The features on the bottom half of the face are squished together. I'd raise the nose and the lips. Also I'd lower the hairline. The way you drew the neck makes it look like she's got her head on a stake. Features by themselves look alright but seems like you need to gain a better sense of how they connect to the whole.

ears and boobs

>>6970635
There are no rules when it comes to lineweight, but you could do the tried and true

closer to the viewer, the more thick the line

>>6970628
NTA but i shouldn't copy Morpho 1:1??

>>6970103

Better, now they look like they're looking at the viewer but still a bit. I feel like what might help you is just drawing on a larger canvas and zooming out, try 4000x4000

>>6970694
It's okay the chin is a bit small on one side though

>>6970678
Try drawing a bit slower and put more thought into the lines after you've sketched out the construction, it feels a bit scribbly but not bad

>>6970609
very cool mech

>>6970607
him? anon why..

>>6970557
>>6970556
Not following gunsafety rules, bad

>>6970528
That's normal, when you look at something for long enough your brain gets used to it, same thing happens with colors, try staring at anything long enough and it begins to lose clarity because your brain sees it as explored space and stop paying attention

>>6970771
finish morpho, at least the heads before you move on to another book

Moved on a bit, this is the 4th sketch pass
guess my lesson today is it might be worth it to make everything 3 point perspective if i'm gonna bother with this tool at all

homeless gondola

>>6970774
>very cool mech
Thanks, I really like this mech.Its not a 1:1 work but I didn't wanted to just trace over a screenshot. I wanted it to have sovl.

30 or less again, Happy with not so much with others.

i wish i could just drooooo

>>6970796
thank you

>>6970796
That's a cool drawing anon, but I cant help but see that he is carrying the trashcan. The posititioning and overlap makes it look like that for me.

>>6970826
cool, but do you not feel like you should make more completed draws to correctly judge the feel for the brushes?

i need to jerk off before i draw much less sketch the anatomy

what do i do?

im honestly very dubious of the idea that a book can make you better at drawing.

im honestly very dubious of the idea that you can gain knowledge by reading books

>>6970914
It's like youtube, but without movement and more verbose.

>>6970922
do zoomers actually need to be told this

>>6970923
Eh, it might not just be zoomers but very visual learners that prefer an example of something to be shown more thoroughly. It's probably better to use both, because it's easy to miss details if someone is moving along too quickly or forgets to explain something. The book fills in the gaps.

>>6970717
his left eye is sticking out and nose isn't centred
>>6970910
left girl is a giant

After seeing some one claim to only use one layer to paint and getting serious rendering skill I decided to try it for myself. To make things even more painful I also disabled the undo shortcut. Is this sort of training something I should make a habit?

another day copying

>>6970943
Reference

so i bought a deco 1 v2
what do i do now i have absolutely no idea what to do
what program do i use
how do i calibrate
where do i even start learning
how do grip the epeen

>>6970949
it came with a manual, i presume

>>6970950
yeah calibrate is more of a meme but i am really lost in how start to draw

>>6970952
its like a trackpad, you put the pen against the tablet and you can draw with it.

>>6970954
but isnt there a correct way to grip the pen or what do i grip it like when you are writing on a paper?
and what about a program what program do i use

So i'm having fun drawing from reference and after i finish drawing i'm able to compare what i drew to the original and figure out what's wrong like "the eyes should be a bit lower" or "this line on the chin is wrong", but how do i actually actively improve on that? I mean i guess the answer would be drawing the same thing again over and over until i get it right?

>>6970959
grip it whatever way is comfortable. download a bunch of different programs and see which one you like. theres krita, SAI, clip studio, photoshop, and many others.

>>6970959
grip it in the way it's comfortable, it doesn't matter, just don't grip it too hard.
The most popular programs are
Clip Studio Paint
Photoshop
PaintTool Sai
or if you dont want to pay/pirate, Krita is free
btw you won't get anywhere if you need someone to spoonfeed you even the most basic shit

>>6970962
kek my long lost twin

>>6970964
>btw you won't get anywhere if you need someone to spoonfeed you even the most basic shit
why are you so rude

>>6970968
nigga just gave you free advice, he can be as rude as he likes

>>6970968
My guess: Because I have a toddler that figured out how to use my pen tablet (same model) seconds after seeing it for the first time while your here begging for instructions.

>>6970968
>but how tho

>>6970966
sorry, my twin would never be rude to people asking for help in the beginner artist thread.
>>6970968
dont let it get to you, people are just mean sometimes.

>>6970968
If you can't figure out how to hold a pencil I have bad news for you bud

more perspective practice/exercises n other stuff. realized today i SUCK at shoes or anything feet shape lmao also i should start using a ruler tool or whatever csp or perspective cuz my straight lines freaking blow.

how would yall place a crown/tiara on this hair style? im trying to draw a disney princess for a fanfic illustration

>>6970959
Grip it as I'd you were writing, get used to use your shoulder to draw, not only your wrist

>>6971028
nigger its not his fault. you faggots are so ridiculously anal and tribal about the stupidest shit.
>pen tablet? make sure you sand the nubs and tape a piece of paper over it to simulate trad art.
>display tablet? heh, hope you like herniated disks.
its not outlandish to think you queers had some secret pen grip technique. and look, people actually had shit to say on the matter:
>>6970964
>don't grip it too hard
>>6971037
>get used to use your shoulder to draw, not only your wrist

>>6971045
the paper over the tablet thing is nice though, especially if you got metal nibs that last forever (fuck wacom) so the plastic doesn't get scratched
plus no sweat marks on your tablet

>>6971045
what level of fucking autism is this? just hold the fucking pen and draw

>>6971045
>>6970959
Here's how you ACTUALLY hold the pen

In case any of you were curious, no, I won’t be drawing this weekend, either. Thank you for your patience.

>get home tired
>can get 1 hours max every night to draw because of how far i work from home
can i make it or should i just giv

>>6970901
>cool, but do you not feel like you should make more completed draws to correctly judge the feel for the brushes?
desu not really I'm trying to built confidence, efficiency and resourcefulness. With this simple doodles I'm learning/understanding too many things for example the biggest I think visualize better the face as a value map than anything else. Thanks your question really got me thinking.

>>6970726
Nice juicy gestures, 2 of them are really good.

>>6970609
>>6970799
Mechs are cool but I think the future is small deathly drones, actually is interesting how people have neglected drones or agile robots for so long.

>>6971032
check the tsar nicholas ii family, some cool tiaras, hats and crowns there, also learn some basic economics/thermodynamics commie.

This may be the wrong board for this but I think it's close enough. These are a pair of silver and garnet earrings. They're okay but they look slightly off but Im not sure how to improve them. Maybe dishing out the petals?

Hello, i made this picrel, please give advice on how to progress as an artist
As you can see my lines are shaky because i’m experimenting line thickness for this one. Normally when i draw all line sizes are equal and stabilized but i think uneven lines can look better. Though, I haven't figured out the rules yet so it’s as you can see.
Also I struggle with expressing my emotions onto my art, because i feel some sort of block in my head that prevents me from being to expressive. I don’t know how to free myself, i think it’s a combined effect of my personal past and studying STEM so my brain is like this machine cog i cant break free from. I’m scared of my own being overwhelmed by my emotions if i really allow myself to feel them, so I intellectualize it and it hampers the whole point of art. (though I'm getting better)
Anyways sorry for the long personal rant, I would like tips on how to improve. I remember i really enjoyed drawing as a kid, it felt free.

>>6971212
stop acting like a bitch

Is there some doctor that could perform nerve surgery to reverse the hardening of the neural network in the prefrontal cortex (neuroplasticity) so that I can learn to draw a basic anime girl as a 26 year old pre/beg/?

>>6969642
>>6969757
>ill try drawing that same angle later.
better but i messed up the pupils/irises a bit. and i still dont know whats going on with the bridge of the nose.

More Hampton arms!
>>6969926
Yeah, that’s a fair critique. While I enjoy doing studies, I need to do more “real” drawings. Thanks for the reminder, anon.
>>6970607
>him
I’ll pump her full of a whole litter of kittens
>>6970609
Awesome! I like the smiling vent thing.
>>6970657
Needs contrapposto and possibly better arm anatomy, but otherwise it’s fine.
>>6970615
>>6970771
I skipped the Morpho heads because I think they’re fuck ugly and not as good as the rest of the book.
>>6970557
If that’s Aqua that should be a squirt gun
>>6970736
These look real good, anon
>>6970792
Looks weird with the two ships in a perfect vertical line. I’d move the top ship closer to the mech guy so the floaty things make a diagonal line pointing to the mech guy
>>6970826
Bottom right is great
>>6970910
God I wish that were me
Anyway draw using your horny to fuel the coom. Your faces are super overpowered compared to your figures, gotta work to bring them up. Very nice faces and hair though.
>>6970943
Drawing is hard enough already, so I wouldn’t go out of your way to make it harder. I think you need to work on drawing accurately from observation. Your rendering ability is already far ahead of your drawing ability.
>>6970945
Keep it up!
>>6971030
Feet are lovecraftian horrors and I think I have to become a footfag somehow to find motivation to draw them. I think that to maximize appeal, we should study the body parts drawn by those who fetishize said body parts. Anyway, these are great!
>>6971032
I’d find reference of Disney princesses
>>6971113
based
>>6971116
They look perfectly fine to me. You could try to put a patina/tarnish on them and then shine the raised bits to artificially age them and make em look neater that way. I think the shape of them is pretty good desu.
>>6971293
I think you should finish that video and/or read those books I mentioned
>>6971212
SOVL. Lovely scene, anon. Therapy and/or journaling could help. Carnivore diet cures depression/anxiety btw

>>6971311
>I think you should finish that video and/or read those books I mentioned
video is a non-starter, i just dont like the guy in it. im sorry if thats you, nothing personal.
i got to the part in Keys to Drawing where it wanted me to draw my shoes but i wasnt wearing shoes and i didnt want to draw my feet and i kinda just wanted to try the eyes again. ill do the hand exercise tomorrow if you think its that important.

>>6971311
nice arms btw

>>6971212
I would just try not to worry about forcing out improvement just draw whatever you like, you can set separate times for studies/improvement so your brain can worry about accuracy when copying photos but relax when just doodling or scribbling for fun.

Quick things to fix would be to learn color theory and just try to redraw photos of real people for anatomy. Timed figures is a great way to get started just do like 10 a day after a month you'll see great improvements from when you started

any tips for deconstructing anime heads?

>>6971322
Just draw normal heads and stylize them (pushing the size of the eyes/nose/mouth)

Wouldn't that be the best way? the loomin circle cross works fine for that no?

>>6971311
thanks fren

I did not draw today either.

>>6971322
Use loomis. Center line is top of eyebrows, not eyes

>>6971322
this is what I usually do. for human heads too.
>>6971311
thanks and yeah, with hands i can just draw mitten that still looks like a hand, but my feet/shoes just always look like crap lmao, also great arms.

>>6971349
also it's prolly better to make that eye line i drew, actually wrap around, not just stiff like i did lol

I vomit on the canvas to get this poison out of my system

Sketched this today, thoughts?
Don’t pay attention to the background

>>6971322
>>6971324
>>6971339
>>6971349
immediately drop loomis if your intention is anime heads.

Or waste a couple of months until you come to this realization like every other anon who has actually drawn

>>6971383
as in the head or the method? i've never read a loomis book in my life and just do what this guy does. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjiCQfCMXow&t=127s hasn't let me down yet, anime and with real portraits

>>6971397
the method and proportions, adjusting the proportions doesn't work either as you'll eventually come to realize that anime is a flat representation of a 3d object, and not a 3d object like what loomis builds

the video you linked is fine if you like his art style, probably have noticed its not quite 'anime' type anime

>>6971363
I like it, very soulful, I'd move the eyes down though and a little more together

>>6971398
did a sketch with his method. While it looks shit cuz i'm a beg, i feel like the method allowed me to get the head shape quickly, no? though since anime is my goal, i'm down for any redpill kek. what method do you suggest?

is this a good anatomy course?

>>6971445
sorry forgot the image

its actually not so bad

>>6970510
is it a bad idea to start drawing at 19?
i have not once in my life before drawn anything out of my own volition and will
but i did have an art teacher once say my drawings looked okay in middle school
i just want to stop being a spazz and have a hobby that isn't jacking off, watching something or mashing buttons, is art a good candidate for that casting?

>>6971405
looks good anon, join ASG since they (me included) like copies, although don't bother reading the OP as what you're doing is good already

>>6971468
Better late than never

>>6971405
>>6971472
oop forgot to link post, heres one I did earlier since we both like the same show >>6971359

could take it further but i cant be arsed, on to more important things.
now to find a jew to pay me 10000000 shekels for this diarrhea of colors

>>6970510
Top kek for labeling me as coom? Who are you? This is gold.
Btw you got beg and int reversed

>>6971496
right. should have labeled it as shit instead.

>>6970968

>>6970516
Yes, and gesture is important for begs

>>6971490
i like it

>>6971383
pyw crab

to whoever told me to close one eye when drawing thank you
everything so much easier now

>>6971490
very int

>>6971501
pyw

>>6971530
No u

>>6971652
refer to second post in this thread

I CAN'T DRAW

>>6971726
YOU WILL DRAW

>>6971729
BUT HOW

finally finished this character body practice
I'm thinking about starting a twitter acc, so I just dump my doodles on there?

>>6970516
he was the first instructor I watched and I think it helped a lot

>>6971743
Id very much follow you anon, do some more with Crabina and her bf

>>6971732
BY DRAWING

What is drawing?
Baby don't hurt me
Don't hurt me
No more

>>6971746
thanks bro

i dont know what the fuck im doing

I am convinced art is just a socially accepted way to look at naked women all day.

>>6971758
you started out the same way i did
you need the Reilly method my friend

>>6971758
If you're struggling that's good, it means you're going outside the comfort zone and your brain is learning, also nice heads, they look great, one thing thta might also help is seeing the nose as a 3d shape before using the 2d nose

how do i get better at circles

>>6971769
buy a compass

/beg/ is boring without Pawell

‘Sup!
It’s me, Howie. How am I doing?

>without Pawell
has he given up?

>>6971758
yes.
not only it is ugliest boxes you don't even follow them. you need to play with boxes more or stick to more simple angles. but as experiment it is cool

>>6971790
can i ask why you didnt reply to that post?

>>6971791
i was using the boxes just to figure out the orientation of the spheres, i know some people use it as part of the construction for heads too but that didn't even occur to me while i was doing this
i'm just trying to figure out perspective

Hello beg. New book, new app, same struggle. Painting remains a mystery to me, but that is okay, i want to learn how to draw first anyway.

>>6971761
thats literally how art worked from like 16th to 19th century. then porn become the norm and art got sidelined and degraded into "modern art"
>>6971758
if you read any perspective book you would know that visual center is never the real center of foreshortened object. to find middle of square in perspective you must draw its diagonals. All your balls are cut at wrong "halves" therefore your heads are deformed. Do a perspective course first and foremost before doing this advanced shit
>>6971496
not OP, but look at your stuff, that BOOBA how can you pretend you arent coom drawer?
>>6971468
you have still approximately at least 50 years to live. Probably 70 if you do cardio sport like walking
>>6971212
damn that is pretty good. as far as your shit lines go, i suggest trying out gesture exercises where you try to draw the pose with 1 single stroke where you dont lift pen from canvas until its done. the goal isnt for it to look good, but to ease up your frigid mind/hand scared to make a mistake
>>6971116
try out fashion board, i think it is called /fa
>>6971030
good one with the loomis punch
>>6970949
keys to drawing, krita app, static tripod or lateral quadrupod
>>6970943
you turned her into loli kek + eyes too wide apart
>>6970910
pour your horny into the canvas, THEN jerk off to what you drew
>>6970717
the womans head isnt foreshortened, thats why it looks so weird. booba is too stiff
>>6970694
yes, you got gud at this
>>6970523
construct perspective grid and draw on top of it

because it wasnt necessary>>6971794

>>6971798
hey pawell thoughts on....
haha just kidding as if i care you idiot

>>6971758

>>6971777
but that is cheating

why does this faggot spam so much shit on his pictures jesus christ

>>6971807
which one?

>>6971813
the dude with like a million watermarks

>>6971807
making up for his lack of appeal

>>6971802
but you can highlight the text youre quoting and click the post number and itll greentext it automatically. did you manually type out your greentext? that seems unnecessary.
>>6971805
i dont think thats right. youre drawing the eyes centered on the brow line.
>>6971806
why do you feel like you need to learn how to draw circles without a compass? are you drawing caricatures in 2 minutes?

>>6971804
>>6971807
>>6971819
jealous little crabs angry that Pawell did not give them attention

>>6971820
i mean if your a artist i think you should at least draw circles right since they are used so much
using a compass feels like a crutch

>>6970774
I draw on a 3000x3000 but never use the whole thing, I'll make shit bigger next time but for now im happy with this redo. Thanks again for the feedback

>>6971816
Oh you mean pawell? he's not so bad I think the idea was to show where he got the study idea from but yeah could be cleaner with the presentation

>>6971828
Loomis said he couldn't draw a perfect circle free-hand, either. If it's good enough for Loomis, it's good enough for (You).

>>6971835
>use a ruler
god you are gonna make me barf

>>6971795
I get this, what I'm telling is you do not use them to figure out orientation, and trying to do it with such big distortions is hard stuff

>>6971832
If you don't use the whole canvas then use an even bigger canvas feels like you'll need 8kx8k lol or try out mischief if there are still copies laying around

>>6971791
this will show my point better because all these guidelines is too confusing

WIP, coloring this sketch from earlier.

First day of practice as a nodraw. Did some shitty copies of blooks. Loomis says to do your own shit and not copy, though. I'm gonna do a few more of these blooks, especially the projection ones on page 32 of FWAP, and then try to use the principles to draw Sonic since that's all I want to do.
I'm also gonna try and fit in some time for the upside-down man exercise from Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain. I did the first two face vase exercises; I've seen people say that it's a bunch of pseudoscience but Edwards was right about it getting my brain working and making me think in a different way. The notebook paper allowed me to cheat by using the lines as reference, so I'll probably have to get a real sketchbook.

>>6970517
You're a funny boy.

the Reilly method

>>6971872

>>6971874
youre right, ill improve on that next time

>>6971874
oh btw while youre right i will also say that this is a jap so they have flat faces so it is a bit of an excuse.

>>6971864
>loomis
ngmi

god is there a GOOD library of reference photos which will inspire me to paint them. I waste so much time scrolling through images looking for something inspiring. I don't know why it's so hard to find stuff when you're actually looking for it

Average civilian activities

>>6971788
hey Howie stop being racist or homophobic I can't remember what both buzzword it was

>>6971872
it's payne, whack him!

>Pawell is dead
Thank god

>>6971884
Be nice

>>6971383
immediately shut the fuck up and go back to /a/

>>6971398
>t.permabeg no draw, doesn't speak Japanese either

I've seen people drop FWAP because they think it's hard and boring, or don't want to draw the funny cartoon heads.
But in my experience, it really is quite simple and Fun

>>6970736
>those 2 bottom right breasts
I can feel the squishy form, also props for focusing on ears, I don't usually see many people practicing them.

>>6971862
>>6971862
That thick line going into the crotch looks off, like the leg is coming out of the crotch or something. I would do it like this.

I made this in 1 hour.
Wiemi?

>>6971967
Good idea, Im trying to remind myself to less thick outlining on the interior.

is anything significantly wrong with this?

>>6971898
pls draw her happy and enjoying life

I seeking critiques.

>>6972009
Did you learn anything?

>>6971975
For an hour's work it's not that great since I would expect shading or better perspective etc, but overall it doesn't look too bad, I think you still need to work on anatomy, the position if very stiff but if this character is a soldier it could work.

Try to focus on proportions. I tried to redraw this character in like 10-15 and keep the original idea but other anons can feel free to critique my critique

>>6972009
It's a good plane/value study, try applying it to a drawing and we can critique

>>6971986 (me)
The arm still looks off to me. Too short?
And the curve of those legs doesn't feel right either.

Fug

I'm a bit retarded, what's exactly the difference between studying and copying? From art book or anywhere else for that matter?

>>6972013
Yeah I guess, I wanted to check if my blending and edge control was good.
>>6972025
Thank you, I shall try that and then I'll return.

I chicken scratch while I'm doing construction because I figure that I'll erase it later after I've traced it with harder, smoother lines. Is that okay, or should I try to have a steadier hand?

>>6972062
it is not ok because like this you will make a habit of modelling by eraser instead of modelling by pencil

>>6972067
>modelling by eraser instead of modelling by pencil
You're right, I've been doing exactly this. In some way, I found it very satisfying to have my eraser reveal a coherent picture underneath the chicken scratch, but I see how it can be problematic. I'll try to correct this habit.

>>6972033
Studying is trying to reverse engineer the work of another artist. It implies thought and often creativity as well. Copying is rather mindless; you do it with the hope of imitating an artist. There's a time and place for both. Take gestures for instance - there's value in copying the gestures of great artists, because you get a feel for rhythms and ratios.

Drew for like 7 hours today and I can't feel my index finger

>>6972094
are you going to post what you drew or...

>>6972107
drawing for him is just sticking his finger up his ass

>>6971788
well, it looks true to life

don't care for critique just look at bird lady. should've made wings bigger but whatever

>>6972137
here's her enjoying a tasty treat

>>6971798
>you turned her into loli kek
Fuck I was hoping nobody noticed that. Oh well. I blame the numerous "lolification" studies I've done in the past months.

I finally figured out how to customize the default pen brush on Sai2 to get that grainy texture that you get from clipstudio but still working on the pen pressure settings

>>6972027
More of a redraw than a redline. When you construct try and construct in 3d/perspective. Understand your subject exists not flat on the page but in perspective always. For example the hips you draw the spheres essentially equidistant from the triangle. That’s flattening your drawing and getting rid of the depth. They need to exist as 3d forms on the page. Have some random drawings in there to try and explain various things. Fairly messy on my end but it should be interpretable.

Strongly recommend improving perspective skills. the krenz perspective course linked in /asg/ is a solid place to start, that's what I used. Don't rush through it if you do, do it thoroughly. Can also do Scott Robertson or drawabox, or one of the million other perspective resources. Not a huge fan of drawabox personally.

>>6970510
I was getting burnt out from analytical drawing of gesture, construction, and bodies and went back to what I have a passion for. Observational drawing with a classic pencil and paper. This is my dog.

>>6972213
Thanks. I realized just how flat things were when I started looking at some references with similar posing.
I haven't gone through perspective stuff at all but my crack at basic forms from rkgk.org isn't great. Particularly the cylinders/tubes.

>>6972237
looks pretty cool bro

>>6972244
those are an alright start, But to start feeling comfortable drawing in perspective you have to do more than just draw simple forms in a vacuum. You have to draw basic scenes, forms that all obey the same perspective, scenes with varieties of rotated perspectives, etc. You'll slowly build an understanding of space doing that.

To parrot myself from earlier, while you should draw whatever you want, I think if you want to improve quickly you should take a stab at the perspective course here: https://asgg.notion.site/Krenz-238090f8a5934eb883fc644bef1d1214

Why can't I draw a black woman whatsoever? Fuck me, I wanna die looking at this shit.

>>6972273
A bit scribbly but she looks fine

>>6971986
>>6972027
The pelvic tilt is giving >picking my wedgie energy.

>>6971864
You're off to a good start. Try to press gently enough that you don't make impressions on the next page.

>>6972273
What paper are you using?

>>6972027

>>6972422
Picking thong out of ass and needing to pee. Very realistic.

fun movie I like tatsuka hojo faces and the movies/series are easier to read. Using the eye as measurement made the process really easy, will see If tomorrow I can draw this from memory.

>>6972273
I think is the nose don't be afraid of pushing features unless you are american which sucks. Draw nahualts same nose and no racist connotations to it at least from normies :^)

>>6972244
copy this amazing old man composition studies he goes hard on perspective and compo
https://twitter.com/sim_kyrm/status/1725890760929890583

>>6972237
soulful dogo, left eye is hard to read

could i get some redlining/critique on this please?

I didn't really manage to render the veil but oh well

>>6972451
Solid stuff honestly not sure if this would help but I made the legs slightly longer

>>6972465
thank you, that does help :)

got filtered by extreme foreshortening yesterday, so I decided to grind it out. getting a lil better at stacking the shapes

>>6971477
thanks anon. i'll prolly start posting there then whenever I find a style that I want to copy/study from kek

>>6972496
very nice subjects, variety is the spice of life

>>6971952
>>6971530
>>6971954
yes keep going crabsisters, maybe we can make him a no draw permabeg like us, quick recommend him to copy bridgememe 10x over!

Here's Musashi mogging the fuck out of some samurai

>>6972458
Looks lit af

About 7 years ago I was in a habit of buying books and three of them were: keys to drawing, drawing on the right side of the brain, and perspective made easy. Would it be a good idea to go through these three books to practice my fundamentals as an absolute beginner?

>>6972569
just buy more books

>>6972584
I ran out of room a long time ago

first time trying to draw a dog as well as two characters in one canvas, shits hard

>>6972593
Cross posting because I know beg gets more traction

I cant do this shit no more man

>>6972601
this is really good, nice depth

>>6972458
Lit af if you look at it from a room's width away

>>6972431
idk why (prolly bcuz im beg) but this has soul

>>6972451
Okay so I really like the face and it's better than I could do. The anatomy beneath the dress just didn't make sense to me, so I did another sketch of the hips connecting to the legs. I always struggle with arms/ hands because I tend to draw them last, so I don't give them a purpose within the drawing. I tried to give both hands a purpose, making her left grab the skirt as a sign of subtle nervousness, and making the right give a dorky peace sign, to signal she doesn't really know what to do and is defaulting to a pose she knows.

Alternatively I almost gave her a gift bag, but I felt like it interfered with the silhouette. You don't have to go with a peace sign, but you have an entire hand there, you might as well use it to give information to the viewer.

>>6972601
is this based on something like girls' last tour? Looks cool

>>6972625
>>6972451
I changed the legs slightly to narrow her stance and gave you a couple more hand positions for fun

>>6972666

>>6972666
>>6972667
nice but your values are bad

Day 2 of learning to draw
How do I make my art look less childlike? Is it an issue of what I'm drawing (form and shapes) or how I'm doing it (line straightness etc)? Or both? How do I improve?

>>6972675
sovl
but yes get cleaner lines

>>6972675
In addition I'd learn what things look like. Your imagination is a muscle and a good way to train it is by using reference. No you don't need to copy things 1 to 1, but having a general idea will help guide your drawings to be more believable.

>>6972677
>>6972682
Thanks bro take this clock soldier in return

>>6972687
holy fuck

>>6972687
>>6972675
Sovl overload

>>6972640
Its copied from the girls last tour manga. I copy manga panels as an exercise because figure drawing and drawing faces becomes exhausting quite fast. My original drawings are all still pretty boring unfortunately

>>6972601
gmi

Day 4 of face practice, top one is the last one I did for the night. I think im starting to get it

>>6972609
lmao anon, fair point, I'm still trying to figure out o how to make that rendering look better up close

hrmm

>>6972802
Ew, black bar.

i dedicate this exercise to anon >>6972671

>>6970715
>>6970628
nice thanks

>>6971311
i like them a lot tobh desu

I haven’t drawn so far this weekend and I don’t plan to change that. You’re welcome.

>>6972834
IDK how you people do that. I can't sleep unless I made at least few marks.

>>6972834
Based

>>6972458

I like it. Maybe not so much details on the eyes and lighten the values a bit since it's behind a veil. A rough over paint to show what I'm talking about.

Sorry for destroying your art.

>>6972750
It’s all about getting the reps. I hate studying, but it’s a must if you wanna improve

>>6972698
you got good taste, keep going mate.

>>6972902
You've destroyed nothing, I'd made a similar edit myself and it did look better. Thank you for your kindness and critique anon.

>>6972913
These studies are really lovely anon. but then again I do enjoy studying

Got out of the rut once again. I'm gonna do Loomis again from the start and some line control bullshit.
Have a good day /beg/

>>6972657
thank you, these are very helpful! i like the idea of her grabbing her dress a lot, and yeah the anatomy underneath her dress was a bit messed up for sure

>>6972876
the white of the eye isn't actually white

if my aim is something kinda like anime is there any point to learning to draw realistically?

>>6972961
body yes of course, face not really

Tried sketching a black guy

>>6972929
Lovely frogs

Drawing Aegis, trying to draw her turning her torso.

Any crit? plus did I screw up the anatomy

Some of this shit is not /beg/. I dont got a problem with it but I think some artists should reassess themselves and move to the intermediate threads. Tbh i havent been here in 2 years tho so maybe things have changed and this is just the general art thread now?

Oh ok im retarded we changed it to /beg/ /int/ it looks like. Thats a good change.

>>6973020
isn't it called beg & Int?

I thought this thread was for everyone

>>6973022
ah nevermind I didn't see this, btw is there an INT only thread? I feel like most crabs would just spam that thread with "go back to beg" lol

>>6973020
I get disproportionate amounts of praise for my scribbles in other places but as far as I'm concerned I'm /beg/ until I get kicked out. Then I'll post here anyway because /draw/ won't let me in either.

>>6973020
>and move to the intermediate threads
you're right anon i'll move to the /int/ thread
hey guys i head this is the int thread!

Is gesture really something basic that a /beg/ should practice every day or just a meme? I mean, why would I not rather spend my time on other shit and just draw a model from a picture like I would draw an object?

And what is best gesture resource for a retard

>>6973027
>other places
just say redd*t

>>6973038
According to the best draftsmen in the world the priority of drawing goes something like
1. Gesture
2. Circle forms, box forms, ovals so you start thinking in 3d
It will unlock the ability to study art further once you start thinking in those terms which you due due to practicing then.
If you don't you can still get somewhere and that somewhere will then lead you to gesture and box, circle and oval

>>6972187
It's okay to be based, anon. But if you don't want people to notice turning woman into loli, then you simply must not turn her into loli. You can't sneakily turn a box into a ball either.

>>6973060
I think those old fucks forgot what it was like as a beginner, "gesture" isn't useful until you're at least somewhat competent

>>6973066

Very interesting choice of rendering

>>6973039
truly is pathetic there, it makes me feel emotions I cant even describe when a 30 year old loser posts some disgusting ass toddler tier art with zero effort and everyone sucks his dick

>>6973066
>>6972458
These are great

>>6972902
awful execution

>>6973068
Regardless it’s a skill that needs to be practiced if you’re willing to accept that your art will look shite and you do the work it does pay off

Bros it looks like shit, where did I go wrong and what can I do to improve

>>6973155
read keys to drawing

been doing these perspective changes of references to mild(failure) success. hoping i learn construction at the end of this

>>6973155
read fun with a pencil

Do I need to do this if I want to learn how to draw faces?

Sup beg. Today i saved my stuff like usual in PSD file format to open it in krita for final edits before PYWing, but instead the file crashed the app. Then i tried all my other 5 or so drawing apps and none could open the file. This shit program created broken PSD file! If i wont figure out what makes broken save files in this sketchbook app i will kill it. Not being able to use the app in my workflow is deal breaker. /blog

>>6973066
anon please, increase size of your brush, become a painter chad
>>6973046
very cool though pants deserved more drapery folds
>>6973038
gesture is for advanced BEGs who want to become INT
>>6973025
according to crabs there is not a single /int anon on whole ic board. good luck trying to make a general for nobody but filled with crabs saying to everybody to go back to beg lmao
>>6972974
>draws black people with white skin
>>6972961
if you cannot accurately draw what you see you will never become good drawer. Observation is the biggest fundie of them all
>>6972929
INT frogs
>>6972666
painter chad
>>6972587
you just know
>>6972569
start with the brain book, it is short you should finish it in a week or two. then do keys to drawing, that will take you a lot of time. Finish with perspective and you will have pretty much all fundies needed for advanced books
>>6972237
i kneel
>>6972200
why did you switch from CSP to SAI? Was csp too laggy for you?
>>6972137
basic but i like it
>>6972062
there are no rules, only tools and fools in art. plenty of drawers chicken scratch in sketch / gesture phase
>>6972031
this one is very good
>>6973155
multiple heavy observation errors, i suggest keys to drawing to level up your eye.
>>6973172
you dont have to, but measuring helps A LOT

I genuinely believe that all the /beg/ traps that tell you that the rib cage is egg/oval shaped have cost me literal years of practice time. It's not an egg. It's not so deep. I've spent years trying to figure this out and walking in circles because of this.

>>6973155
well your eyes clearly don't work

>>6973178
Like what errors ?

>>6973201
neck should angle forwards not bend, chin should push forwards more, sharp jawline does not exist on ref, ear contours are also very different from ref. moreover though the shading appears to be totally from-scratch, the ponytail is in complete shade in the ref and complete light in yours, shadow on the cheek of the ref starts below eye and ends at nose bulb but crosses halfway across the cheek in yours. definitely keys to drawing, very good at teaching these observational skills

>>6972974
I ruined it trying to make him blacker

>>6973071
wat is he hugging

>>6973242
Are you sure this isn't a self portrait and the final task for Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain?

>>6970510
i feel like i have anatomy alzheimers and it keep getting wonkier, although this one at least has more interesting composition and i liked the rendering

>>6973379
you are still dragging the issue of everything having the same texture, just like shark skin

>>6973401
im legit too retarded to shade it any other way with just hatching

>>6973414
dynamic sketching lesson 1 cover an exercise on this, you are too good to be dragging something like this.

todays stuff. i can feel my minds eye slowly opening to the 3d

How do you decide which colors to use for pictures like pic rel? Like the dudes face is clearly not blue green but it still looks good, how do you come to thesse decisions?

>>6973417
thanks

This is all I drew today, i'm such a loser.

>>6973454
If the values are good, you can pretty much use any colour

>>6973178
No offense Pawell but some of these drawings are pretty low quality even for doodles. Look at pic related. What happened? Did FWAP break you?

>>6973465
what the fuck happened

>>6973365
I like the forms. by far your biggest issue is proportions imo.
right pic is probably the worst offender in terms of proportions. the full left arm (his left) is shorter than the torso. Head is almost the size of the ribcage. Left leg has no upper leg. I realize your trying to foreshorten there but we should still see a little more of it imo.
left pic is better but has issues. Short arms, torso feels a bit wide, lower back muscles overhang the butt for some reason. Rib cage and pelvis are perfectly in line which feels stiff. Also the dude feels like he's leaning forward slightly, which adds to that feeling of stiffness/unrealistic pose. keep your figure balanced.
middle's not terrible either. head/torso connection should be improved. Thighs feel overly large and the lower legs are far too short. tiny feet as well.
You also seem to have an issue drawing things whose origin you cant see. Right guys right arm feels like the shoulder starts uncomfortably high and far back. Middle persons right arm feel a bit too low imo, but fairly close. Hard to fix this, but try to draw through or at least think about it more while drawing.
Last thing is to pay attention to symmetry. Middle guys head is fairly verticle, but his eyes are slanted heavily leading to a weird looking face.

>>6973482
loomis, Happens. Every. Single. Time.

wanted to practice today but watched ross creations pranks in bed for 3 hours straight instead i fucking hate myself

what's a good playlist for straight up uni courses on youtube?
I think my brain might be adjusted best for that kind of learning since I finished my 4 years for CS

>>6973078
where then i only have 4chan

Thoughts on this sketch? Is there a way to make this look better?

>>6973078
same people that tell burn victims or retarded deformed people they are beautiful, hate this shit. This pretentious behavior is worse for the person than actual honesty. What happend?

if my main focus is digital, and i use a tablet at home
will going trad when out of the house(i spend like 2 hours a day waiting for the bus, 4 if you take the return commute into account as well) be detrimental to my learning?
trying to make the most out of my time since i only got like 1 hour, two hours max a day to spend on my own shit

>>6973671
btw same anon
if you can only get a hour a day, would you guys say is preferable take a day in the week to put in like, 4-5 hours and lose out on a bit of sleep(and make up for it in the rest of the week) or just go a hour a day normally?
not counting weekends ofc

>>6973068
Wrong
The gesture is what makes your human drawing look alive, gives it personality, gives it humanity
The shapes are what you use to build volume on it
Anatomy is what gives it highlights
I started gesture drawing two months back and I don't even do it every day yet
I only focus on the action
It's literally all written down in Vilppu basic figure drawing, read the text don't just copy the images randomly

>>6973671
>>6973688
Just draw with whatever you have at hand even reed will work. Prioritize sleep over anything.

>>6973701
Ps. The act of getting a human-like action lines will keep you engaged with the boxes and circles since you will be hyped to complete the figure and once you get that down you get into refinement territory
You WANT to learn how to draw faces better, hands, feet, anatomical landmarks just to keep the ball rolling and you look at your drawing later and you notice what you could do better and its a self-sustaining loop of improvement because you are creating life on the paper with your own two hands
2 months in as a beg, master study

is this composition ok? any pointers?

>>6973714
why the extreme angle? looks like you're going for a comfy winter scene, that doesn't really fit. the group of people behind her make it look a bit ominous, can't tell if that is intentional or not.

I started reading vilppu and it really feels like the "draw the rest of the owl" meme.

>>6973742
Are you're going into the book with the mentality that you know better than him?

>>6973746
No, because I don't know how to draw the owl at all.
The sphere chapter is literally
>draw lines to represent flow (this is fine)
>draw blobs
>???
>fleshed out person

>derp

>>6973748
The lines are the direction and flow of limbs , and the circles (cyllinders) are basically where the elbows, shoulders, hip joint, knees, feet, arms end.
If you can visualize it like that, look at a human and think in terms of cylinders it actually helps. Also it takes a while for it to sit in but I promise its worth it, you unlock the vision to see everything in his drawn shapes and it becomes easier to put on paper
It helps if you play around a lot with the shapes he teaches about
I felt like i didnt know what i was doing and played with action lines for a month and tried to make my own but there was a big difference in how I wasn't able to "flesh out" my own while fleshing out his action lines felt a lot easier making me realize ok this is something I gotta study more

Then something clicked and my own action lines improved and I was able to flesh them out
And I will revisit them again once I go through the rest of the book
I'm still on the first chapters and I am gaining from it months later

>>6972513
This is a study of Vagabond panel where you cant see half the scene because its obscured by grass haha so I tried playing around and making it more visible
This was possible only because I study Vilppu
A pro might look at it and say "hehe its shit"
Of course it is, how did your drawings look into 2 months of learning to draw?

>>6973714
>>6973731
This anon is right, the composition is fine but the dutch angle implies to the viewer that something is wrong or off, all the lines point to the people in the back and since they're out of focus it feels like she might be abducted

>>6973764
And this is my box forms a while back
I was literally featured in the beg OP pic as a "vandal" lmfao
If I can learn fucking Vilppu anyone can

Very good drawings bros, keep up the effort and WAGMI

>>6973714
Don't listen to theses fags >>6973731>>6973768 they are conditioned to only think in popular tropes, like trained dogs. Your pic is peak comfy.

>>6973818

yeah ignore the proper crit and listen to this dumbfuck.

>>6973833
>proper crit
literally just "i don't like it" without giving him any pointers to fix it

How to deal with literal unironical adhd?
It makes me mad how hard is it to me to focus on something for more than 10 minutes.
ADHD is like inverse autism when you think about it, i'd rather be autist.

>>6973833
There isn't any critique in these posts, just Pavlov's dog reflex "umm uhh the angle doesn't fit because it just doesn't okay".

>>6973762
Not critique but very cute

>>6973858
Not ADHD but my attention span is abysmal. I've been using a modified pomodoro method, aka timed work period followed by a timed break. Don't think "I need to get X done in Y minutes," I'm thinking "I'll work for Y minutes then take a break." Also get some nootropics in your live. I found ginkgo biloba works for me, but feel free to experiment.

>>6973888
>nootropics
can i get that without receipts

>>6973888
Why not just ritalin

>want to develop some script for Krita
>API has been nuked and need to look at header files which is a pain in the ass to do
amazing

>>6973931
yet another win for trad chads, your digital doodles will never get close to trad S0VL *pulls out your power cord* *slaps your ass*

>>6973936

>>6973947
>>6973947
>>6973947
>>6973947
>>6973947
>>6973947

>>6973862
The reason I gave for the angle was because it's tilted it seems slightly off, since all the perspective lines point to something out of focus and they are in shadow it seems like you're not supposed to be able to see them so something will happen with those people. >>6973768