/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Huh. I got all I needed from Loomis.

>>6972753
and you gotta draw 200 hours more to get it into that thick skull of yours so you better start

>>6972753
What's over? I don't understand what you're ever trying to say, OP
How do moeblobs stop you from creating dynamic foreshortened drawings?

Just draw a bunch of circles add some lines to indicate perspective and then paste anatomy on top
Why does this board make even simple shit like drawing moeshit so complicated

>>6972753
>no draws think 100 hours is a long time
you don't even have a full time job, you could finish this in less than a month

>>6972753
that's why drawing is a waste of time
you have to learn it when you're young

You really don't have to, because there are dozens of books that condense all that into a few pages.

>>6973215
Name 5

>>6973215
does a children's book on dinosaurs condense a university Paleontology course?
cause that's what you're assuming those books do

How can one possibly hope to meaningfully understand, much less effectively incorporate, 111 hours of video instruction on perspective? This sounds like something which you could pick bits and pieces from to bolster your existing workflow once you're already at a decent skill and comfort level with drawing, but I'm sure many a beg/prebeg will watch it, try to do the exercises, but find their drawing output is either a cluttered trainwreck and/or effectively unchanged when they go to draw something original.

You have to possess a very good understanding of form before you embark on such a endeavor with going deep on perspective, if you are not familiar with form how the fuck are you even going to think to draw it in perspective? Unironically start with primitives like bricks, stack them up and see how they change in relationship to your eye level.

>>6973423
If you're relying on drawing lines out to vanishing points as step one of your drawing process, it's already over.

>>6973425
I didn't say that now did I? Notice how I specifically said to observe how the bricks change in relation to the eye level? Fucking idiot.

>>6973427
I was adding my thoughts to what you said, not disagreeing with you. If you don't have a decent off the cuff feel for form and perspective and instead rely entirely on mechanical perspective plotting to get anything to look right from step #1, you're not going to get much out of things like OP's video.
For whatever people may think about Drawabox, it's going to be more beneficial to most beginners than diving into advanced topics in mechanical perspective.

>>6973430
You're describing this guy then, the ultimate /beg/trap.

I'm a beg and shouldn't be talking, but I started perspective a few days ago, and it really feels like all you need to know, at least when it comes to the hard stuff, is 1,2,3 point and if something is below or above the horizon line. How close you are/and if you're standing left or right is important too, but yeah

>>6973439
forgot to mention, if your goal is to draw characters/characters in scenes. that op course is prolly for intense stuff like hyper accurate vehicles

>>6973420
what should you do as a beg/prebeg then? what's the first step if it's not watching this 100+ hour course

>>6973504
proko teaches perspective in his basics course, not finished yet though. you can also just watch marshal vandruffs perspective course

>>6973211

>>6973504
Copy art you like and pay attention to how pespective is used in it

>>6972753

>watching 100 hours of perspective before you actually start drawing
does anyone on this board actually like enjoy the process of drawing

>>6972753
Moeblobs don't work in 3d.

>>6973577
You are posting on a board that is known to hoard tens of thousands of pirated content, books, videos, tutorials, infographics, models, software, anything and everything that has to do with drawing except for that one thing which will make them draw you name it they'll have it except for a drawing.

>>6973664
>you name it they'll have it except for a drawing
Even a merhod to find a mommy gf?

>>6973577
A bunch of artists born without appeal desperately trying to find the perfect workweek-long video series to inundate them with information which they'll be unable to apply to anything beyond studies of that exact content, absolutely convinced that once they master this and that after rigorous study their art will magically develop appeal. They keep polishing the coal with every technique and study, convinced to find that diamond of appeal, only to realize that they were born with the curse of finding nothing more than guano inside of all that coal

>>6972753
This course is the definition of gatekeeping.

>>6973706
?

>>6973577
No, people here only enjoy hoarding and sharing art tutorials and books with a mindset that with each tutorial watched they gain more drawing exp needed to level up.
No one who actually enjoys drawing would subject himself to 111 video course on perspective.

>>6973435

Lol how? This guy needs to go and actually learn perspective. Figures it’s a retarded lolicon though.

>things look bigger when they‘re closer and smaller when they‘re further away
Knowing that much is enough if you want to do character illustration

>>6973577
If I had a single clue what was involved in the process of drawing then I never would have visited this board.

>>6972753
Wrong. You get to watch 111 hours of perspective videos

>>6973504
Just draw. Reference material is only useful if it's to help overcome roadblocks in self-study. If you haven't asked a question yet the answer isn't useful.

>>6972753
Watch the first half, second half is tertiary and best saved for once you’ve developed other skills. First is the fundamentals of perspective in one and two point, second is mostly three point, and while valuable is unnecessary for learning things like anatomy, gesture, color, light, etc. which are more motivating milestones than mastering all perspective from the beginning. If you want to draw well you need to enjoy it and do it all the time, best way to do that is study in the order that allows you to produce fun pieces fastest.

>>6972816
Could you do a demo?

>>6973435
>pretty good moeblobs
>perspective black hole
I kneel, who is this?

>>6972753
i remember one anon here said he actually did this entire course he said he didnt learn much but he was able to draw spiral staircases perfectly from any angle

>>6972753
Does anyone actually know what arcane hypercube bullshit knowledge is in this course and how he streches this relatively simple concept for 5 days? Is this the ultimate crab trap to make people hate drawing?

>>6972753
Pareto principle is a hell of a thing.

just draw

>>6972753
>you have to watch 111 hours of Perspective videos to draw moeblobs
??? You really don't

>>6975824
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>>6975833
scott robertson, hell even loomis, hell even norling teaches you everything you need to do this, I still don't understand what the purpose of this video saga is

>>6975824
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>>6975833
At that point the perspective guides themselves are more of the art than the actual subjects.

>take photo of a place you're familiar with
>try to sketch figures and objects in proper scale within that photo
>repeat

>>6973664
This so much, you have no idea how much it pains me. I took way too many courses including this one and dint drew enough.

>>6975824
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>>6975833
This looks cool and all but just freehanding it would be more than enough and way quicker

>>6975901
those diagrams aren't part of the video coruse
the reason why the course is so long is because he teaches through demonstrations and doesn't speed up his drawing.
most demos will do that so thats why they'd be more shorter but Olsen's video course is over 170 demonstrations. so obviously 100 hours is pretty reasonable

you could just speed up the videos yourself or just skim through things you feel like you already know

people bitching about the length must also bitch about a dictionary having to many words. This is a resource, not a long trip. it being more dense is to your benefit

>>6972753
bad news for you: i have all this perspective shit sorted (went through an architecture school) but moeblobs are still a problem.

draw the boxes

>>6972753
what's the olson of rendering

>>6978348
How To Render by Scott Robertson