/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>6965364
Yay my toga made it in

Thanks always op、 which one in the picture is yours

>>6965408
>which one in the picture is yours
N-none of them. I didn't make again...It's over...

>>6965364
Can someone recommend me a mangaka that draws hair simply that isn't Kishimoto? I need to copy someone because I am so fucking shit at this.

>page 10

Posting this then since thread is dying.

I don't understand how to draw a simplified / stylized body at all, I've spent collectively months and the bodies I draw don't even turn out a fraction as good as the target

>>6967633
Pillow method, look it up and apply yourself. Understanding anatomy as well

>>6967642
Is this the one you meant? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OZ3ajt9tXs
If so looks good thanks anon I will try it

Unless you meant pic related, and which I'd be sad

>>6967633
https://youtu.be/ZHJWjclAVnI

following his stuff helped me out a bit, pretty simple to pick up once you understand the proportions of the body. anatomy books are also good to study for general knowledge

is madooka too long?

>>6968572
No, she's fine

>>6968572
Yes, and legs& butt too small. Seems an easy fix tho

Which artists have the nicest eye styles to copy?
Excluding the obvious like Mika Pikazo.

>>6969133
Nurikazu_ , waterkuma0, angry82pigeon, 1000kcal_ , poch4n, and vinneart. On twitter btw, just some examples

八百万

Fellow manga-bros, anyone got tips for semi-realistic artwork?
Not quite like Koike-sensei or Miura-sensei but also not ultra deformed like Takahashi-sensei's stuff.

>>6970029
Yusuke Murata, you might find something

>>6965364
I need a tutorial for face anatomy and side profiles specifically. What do you guys recommend

>>6970063
Forgot pic, I struggle a lot with faces it's so easy to fuck with the slightest misalignment.

>>6970077
Try shrinking the jaw a bit

>>6970042
Thanks bro

>>6970077
>>6970063
>ANIME STUDY GENERAL
>why you should copy ANIME

>>6943463
>>6943463
>>6943463

Been seriously learning how to draw for about 2 months now. The number 1 thing I'm struggling with right now is finding which kind of anime art style to copy.
I really like the jagged edges of PS&G but it always ends up looking TOO cartoony in my eyes. I was really happy with the line work I did on this piece,
1) this kind of style demands brighter coloring in my mind, and I'm not great at that
2) the piece I'm working on today doesn't transfer well to this style/I'm not good enough yet to apply this style to references that aren't in this style.
So I'll get in a groove of drawing in one style, deciding one day that I don't like it anymore, and then effectively undo all the progress I make.
So a few questions:
>General advice on how to not get into this death spiral?
>What do you think of this general style?
>What can I do to improve?

>>6970219
I've gotten this shit before for posting a ghost in the shell pic. change it to generic anime general then

>>6970226
The face is too sharp in your drawing, I drew what I could to help you with the face
lmk what you think

>>6970269
While I don't disagree that the sharpness is extreme, I was going for the PS&G look as I mentioned

>>6970226
>>6970318
shouldn't the rest of the drawing be in that sharp deformed style as well? I think >>6970269 felt like redrawing that way because the rest of your drawing is much more grounded than the face which is the inconsistency he tried to fix

>>6970330
>shouldn't the rest of the drawing be in that sharp deformed style as well?
yeah, good point. I feel like that's also part of my uncertainty sticking to one consistent artstyle

>>6970330
>>6970226
also
>So I'll get in a groove of drawing in one style, deciding one day that I don't like it anymore, and then effectively undo all the progress I make.
you're overthinking it. mileage doesn't get overwritten and the more of it you have, the easier it is to learn another style or whatever as long as you know your fundamentals
I once read the way you draw should come naturally over time as a sum of every other style you enjoy, while cutting some corners (inconsistencies) in order to glue them together

it's impressive just how far off everything can be just trying to line things up by eye

>>6970343
>>6970269
>>6970330
gave it another go, how am I doing?

>>6967702
i feel so dumb i couldn't figure out how to analyze references until i saw this vid

Tried drawing while listening to podcasts this time,
red is overlaying my drawing on top afterwards, purple is largest adjustments that need to be made for it to be closer

I give up, I suck at everything, I can't do it, it's been 3 years and I feel no progression at all.

>>6972264

>>6972264
PYW and I will judge that

Its time, going to be hyper autistic about drawing the torso until I get it down. I've copied countless faces and my faces from imagination are 'ok' but the torso ruins every female figure I make

>>6972502
Is there any potential at all

>>6972612
These are recent. Now show what you started with.

>>6972617
Ok maybe there's progress from when I was completely new, but I feel like I'm stalling and there is this bad feeling of mediocrity surrounding me and my pictures.

>>6972624
>there is this bad feeling of mediocrity surrounding me and my pictures
imma be real with you
every artist feels this way toward their art
EVERY. SINGLE. ONE

>>6972624
>>6972612
>>6972264
This is what no progress looks like

>>6972624
Looks like a normal progression pace to me. Nothing impressive for sure, but far from hopeless

>>6972612
They don’t look that bad, if a bit generic. There’s definitely points you could improve on (anatomy in particular, and your ability to visualise in 3D.). I would say that even for all the faults, these drawings are charming, and your coloring is nice. I like the drawing with the unicorn plushie a lot.

>>6972626
True

>>6972633
>generic
I feel this, maybe I should try to branch out a bit from the girl in a void thing I've been doing. I've always been treating these as semi-studies to test different things I've been practicing.
>>6972632
The noob to pro in 2 years videos are making me really self-doubt my ability to learn.

>>6972624
It’s over…

>>6972637
>The noob to pro in 2 years videos are making me really self-doubt my ability to learn.

all those videos hide the fact that they've been drawing far longer than they advertise for, or have almost unlimited free time to dedicate to drawing. stop comparing yourself to that slop

>>6970633
Saki!!!!

But yours look more like Natsu with those chubby cheeks lol.
>line things up by eye
Is there a reason you're doing it by eye instead of using constructions? Because I feel like there's not much benefit doing it by eye if you haven't gotten construction down yet. Hell even pros use construction and ratios and measurements all the time!

>>6972612
Fuck you. I would jack off to that Okayu. Stop bitching and keep drawing you attention seeking faggot.

>>6972999
>Is there a reason you're doing it by eye instead of using constructions?
I'm using it as practice for trying to draw what I'm seeing instead of where I think things should be.

>>6973029
Not that anon but I agree that you won't be seeing much progress doing it by eye at your skill level since you don't have an anatomically correct face as a point of reference. It'd be like being asked to build a car engine when you've never seen the inside of one before.
It doesn't have to be drawn super realistically but you should first stylize from references with construction, like in how-to books and videos and photos. Then once you have a grasp of what makes a face look like what it is and how it turns in different angles, you can study artists you like and see what shifts and changes they made to the standard.

>>6973118
this """sounds""" like """""""good advice"""""" until you realize 99% of mangakas got their skill through copying the exact manga they like、idk wtf it is with westoids and being obsessed with drawing 3dpd

>>6968572
No you made her sexo. Good job, anon

How do i do this effect with a brush?
What brush do i use?
I tried a hard brush and bluring but it doesn't work.
Is there a good video on doing stuff like this?

>>6973535
what effect? the grainy texture can be done after the drawing is done with an low opacity layer on top of it
the blur that mimics the focus of a camera is called gaussian blur. you can access in the 'filter' window on csp. the blur tool is better used to blend edges when rendering

>>6973559
Like the coloring, edges and bluring they do when rending

>>6973405
>99% of mangakas got their skill through copying the exact manga they like
Yeah, with measurements and other tools or even tracing, not by eye dumbo.

>>6973566
circle the spot on the image where you need help

>>6973405
> until you realize 99% of mangakas got their skill through copying the exact manga they like
That’s explains why the vast majority of mangas are hot garbage and why you’re a perma/beg/.

>>6973535
Unironically get the Mogoon course from the video course general. Whoever drew this went through that whole thing. And that effect is a noise filter added after the piece is completed. His whole thing is added textures using textured brushes throughout his art and that noise effect.

>>6973622
t. racist but still clicks anime threads

>>6973597
sure、point stands

>>6973638
Is it from the magnet link here >>6939630
I can't seem to find it, is in another language or a different link?
I even checked the courses folder and it wasn't there

I need help figuring something out, my brushes both custom and default behave differently when tested on pictures I get from the internet compared to a new canvas I create on clip studio paint. I can replicate near perfectly the brush quality on other people's pieces but when I use the exact same brush on my own canvas the strokes are thicker and also less pixelated. What could be causing this? I have tried setting my canvas resolution to the exact same dimensions as the sample but the problem is still there.

>>6973405
You say "westoids" but a ton of animators and illustrators hone their skills by doing croquis everyday:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHJWjclAVnI
I'm not even suggesting the other anon to start "copying bridgman twice" or pull up medical anatomy books to study. That's only if you would like to achieve that level of mastery. I'm saying to stylize into anime from reference and that will give you good foundations to start copying other things more efficiently. The reference /can/ be 2d but it should come with some level of anatomical skill. There's a ton of content from teachers that already did the work of breaking it down for you. Did you want me to specify Japanese how-to books and videos instead? Fill the blanks yourself rather than assume bad faith when given this type of advice.
If you would like to just copy stuff blindly, go ahead. Mileage is possible if you work just as hard as the mangaka you follow. If you're copying with some small awareness of fundamentals, that's even better but you will hit a wall at some point if you crave further growth. Decide for yourself but also know your options.

>>6973800
I have the same exact problem
Also using the default pressure curve as suggested, I have a lot of problems replicating teardrop-shaped or zigzags with increasing brush size, and my tilt seems to always default to nearly the highest pressure level for some reason
Didn't have this problem on SAI

I even have it zoomed the same scale, the size difference is fuckhuge. I never realised this was a problem, this must have been fucking with my practice like crazy.
>>6973810
We need a solution, it can't be CSP itself, heaps of people use it, could it be an issue with the canvas settings?

>>6973800
are you using pixels for canvas size? dpi could be messing you up here

>>6973848
Fuck yeah it was DPI confusing me. I'm researching it now, completely overlooked this. Turns out my dpi was set to 350 and the pictures I am referencing all use 96.

>>6973802
the videos good, but that doesn't excuse 99% of the advice given on this board is to religiously study atrophied old MALE boomers in hunched poses in some sort of osmosis prayer that it will help draw anime girls.

>>6973969
>99% of the advice given on this board is to religiously study atrophied old MALE boomers in hunched poses in some sort of osmosis prayer that it will help draw anime girls.
Link to one of these posts. Should be easy if it's 99% of advice.

>>6973969
Are these hunched boomers with us in the room right now?

>>6973969
You choose what material you want to study and what level of detail you want it to be. Doesn't mean the advice is bad, you just have to distinguish that for yourself. All types of art is stylization from life. If you don't study from life then something will be missing. But if you can make it work and that's enough for you then that's fine too. Do what you wish.

>>6973969
Show me an animator that doesn't draw from life.

>>6973817
Are you trying to copy Kedama's brushes? Could you post the settings?

>>6973986
sauce on that image pls
also can anyone recommend me books with full sketches in anime style?

>>6973969
> the videos good, but that doesn't excuse 99% of the advice given on this board is to religiously study atrophied old MALE boomers
And that advice is how you actually get good and being able to draw anime comes with it. You just need to fucking apply yourself you retarded perma/beg/

>>6974058
Not that anon but it's https://twitter.com/linween1

>>6973986
He won't, this goes against /asg/ narrative

>>6972612
I like your Okayu. Would mogu mogu

>>6974084
>https://twitter.com/linween1
thanks anon!

>>6974035
I'm not specifically trying to copy his brushes, I was just trying to understand the different line quality I was getting >>6973860

anybody have a resource they really like for hair drawing?

>>6972612
its over, sorry.

>>6974071
>>6973978
>>6973802
>>6973977
>you want to draw anime girls?
>draw ugly old men instead bro, im totally not samefagging just to crab

shut the fuck up

Animes with a similar character design? Saber Marionettes and maybe Godannar come to mind, but I want to gather more material

>>6974084
good shit. i was actually looking for an artist to learn how to draw hair from. i liike how he blocks the the strands into one shape, even ignoring the single strands

>spend entire day hopelessly referencing, redrawing, and even tracing eyes
>they all look like shit
only not posting my art because it's furshit

Is it better to disable the opacity curve for lineart?

>>6974996
Same here... Let's try again tomorrow anon, we'll get through this

Just wanna draw like wagashi.
The shit in brown and the Roll and loli on the bottom right are from imagination.

I really want to study 80s Japanese-French productions. they just have a nice mix of cartoon and anime to me
>>6975975
very nice anon

This drawing thing be hard. i'm now heaps more impressed by artists

what i gotta do

>my previous post got deleted
Fuck you jannies there was nothing sexually explicit

>>6976427
More of the same. It's good you're drawing full bodies and they're not bad so far. Watch the arm proportions.
>>6976251
Try to measure the proportions more accurately and use ratios. The face especially is where most of the style's likeness is for it to be similar feeling.

>>6976567
too cute and funny

>>6976581
sorta feel like i've been on this level for the last year unfortunately

>>6977470
Why are you even doing studies of clothed figures man? That's way too advanced. Copy nude drawings anon

there's an infinite variety of anime faces. Anime is a deep field of art deserving of infinite study and contemplation.

>>6977483
im sure but i don't really know how to get better or when is enough to really move ahead from nude bodies.

i feel like at best i've been only slowly improving on them and just stagnant at worst

>>6977495
>>6977483
in any case, any recommendations?

>>6977483
Is this why most jap artists start off drawing copious amounts of porn before moving to legit stuff?

>>6977507
Go to gelbooru type 1girl full_body nude and then copy what you like

does anybody have some repository of references with construction overlaid on top of them?
much like pic related
i feel like a monkey that i can't intuitively see that sphere part of the skull on a reference

next best alternative i could think of is trying to rotate this 3d model like the reference image
https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/loomis-head-d0b3f4aa633a44d8bda8cfe2f779f1f8

Quick! What book should I copy? Is taco good? Or should I use something different?

>>6977654
all of them one by one like pawell

what's a good figure video course/course in general to get to my goal? Feels i can kinda get the construction of an irl pose, but i can't put on the human forms onto it or stylize it into "anime" proportions for the life of me.

>>6977700
why not just make studies of what of goal? wtf is this logic that you need a video/book as permission to do what you want lmao

>>6977754
i don't need permission, i'm saying i don't know how to do it lmao. i can construct, but i'm pretty loss when it comes to the human form

>>6977700
vilppu drawing from imagination

>>6977770
this? https://online-courses.club/drawing-from-imagination-by-glenn-vilppu/

>>6977771
yes

>>6977773
alright i'll give it a try. thanks anon

>>6977700
>I want to draw cute horse girls
>Heres my practice of a naked dude and models who had plastic surgery

The classic

>>6977775
i've done some studies on how the artist draws faces n whatnot, the body in general just confuses me. in anime and in reallife

>>6977776
woops forgot pic

アリエル姫様

>>6977823
Instead of just copying, you're turning into a Constructoid.

>>6977985

>>6977863
its over.....
Next I need to constroooct the body so and id be very happy..

>>6977985
>>6977987
looks nice

>>6977615
nvm i realized how stupid of a question this is now lmao

>>6978958
>TFW

八百万モモ

>>6977985
Ahhh how cute asdiasdnasidasid

>>6977777
powerful reply
gmi anon

>>6967633
>strussle with torso

>>6977985
How do you get those softer transitions in the face?

>>6965364
Oh wow I made it in, thanks OP. I didn’t finish, but I worked on it a little more.

>>6979718
Really nice study, anon. The delicate stuff is not easy to replicate well.

Is there some kind of course Chinese artists are taking? I've noticed that many of them have this same rendering style.

>>6979638
Soft round

>>6980243
That would be Krenz. In the OP but you can also find his other video courses.

I want to move to digital, anyone know guides on setting up photoshop, like what brushes to use, canvas size, tips and tricks etc.

>>6980495
>guides on setting up photoshop
torrent from piratebay, press install. or use freeware.
>what brushes to use
default brush
>canvas size
A4 w/ 600 ppi
>tips and tricks
draw until you get used to it.

>>6980495
use stabilization if you have to, drawing on digital is HARDER than traditionally, there's no shame in it

>>6980516
Ait, I knew I shouldn't have wasted my time asking here lmao.

>>6965364
Kaho Hinata from Blend・S

how do hair highlights work? Why does light bounce off hair like that? Can anyone explain it to me?

>>6981409
You just paint in the highlights, what part do you not understand?

There's loads of tutorials to find on the websssszzzz.

Do you want to share your wip so I can give you constructive feedback on the hair highlights?
Please understand that drawing/painting is not as black-and-white as for example 'mathematics'.
Without your drawing it'll be difficult to help you Anon.

>>6981416
>You just paint in the highlights, what part do you not understand?
how do the highlights retain a shape like this? It doesn't make sense, they go 360 around the head and also seperate into 2 lines when the hair are a continous slope
If you simplify the shape to a pall you would expect only one point of the hair to have the highlights, how do the rings of saturn of highlights happen?

>>6981418
The highlight is strongest at one point and tapers off. Look at highlights of cylinders laid horizontally with 2 light sources.

>>6981409

>>6981430
so basically, just draw some rings and at the outer edges you just widen it and make it conform to the outer shape of the characters' hair shape.

gl hope this helps.

ノエル

Red is overlaying my work afterwards

>>6980450
Just watched his videos and they were really helpful. Didn’t know he was such a big deal till many people are following his style. Is he a famous artist?

>>6981532
I didn't really know him all that well before he started teaching but he has gotten extremely popular over the last couple of years for his course. Boils down to "tricking weebs into actually doing fundies" by using homework and resources that cater more towards their interests. It's nothing new that other teachers make you do (perspective, value distillations, master copies etc.) except he packaged it in a really appealing way that clicked with this specific crowd. By the end he teaches how to break down other artists' work that you like and how to apply it to personal work and its a harder concept to grasp than most people who don't have their fundamentals in order realize.

>>6981635
Interesting, since this place is anime focused it makes sense why a lot of his stuff is in the OP then.

>>6981724
Ideally getting direct feedback from the guy as a student and getting immersed in the course is best but the language barrier is the hard part.

>>6981416
This is the best I could muster after countless retries
It's really bizarre, I am looking at highlights, copying them and they look completely wrong, no other thing just looks completely wrong when I copy it

>>6981409
>>6981970
Not that anon but highlights are meant to suggest form. So things like the shape of the skull (which is a sphere in simple terms) and the hair the character has will affect how the highlight falls on it, as well as where the light is pointing. If you just draw on the highlights without realizing it will have the opposite effect of flattening your image. It's a stylized way of making it seem like the hair shape has "strands" and catches light similarly. There's a ton of ways to depict these but more often than not the rule of thumb is that it's like a halo which follows the curve of the head.
You can practice this by shading spheres and find the line where the light is still caught by the top of it and where the shadows start. Don't overdo it or it might lead to flattening if you lose the shape and adding some shade just behind the highlight creates a nice shaded look without much effort once you figure it out.

>>6982068
Better example from an artist i'm studying currently. A little glare goes a long way and is very pleasing to look at when shaped well. I rushed my example so I feel it's a bit overdone but that also depends on the lighting situation. Dark to jet black hair also presents its own challenges. Some tend to add way more shine than any other color since there's not much middle value to work with.

Have no idea what I'm doing honestly.

>>6982068
this did make me realize that I'm not actually sure how light hits a sphere in the first place...

>>6982397
Something to study up on! This second attempt already looks a lot better since it doesn't create a straight line so don't sweat it too much. Here's an excerpt from Dorian Iten's light course. You don't need every shadow and light described here, keep it simple. I suggest observing art you like and drawing a curve where the highlights are like this anon >>6981430 demonstrated. Then see if you can observe the relation between the orientation of the head, how the hair falls over the head and how the character is lit. Try to find both simple and complex examples of how different artists depict the highlights and then see which one you like.

added some shading today

ugh, so many good books stuck behind the japanese language

>>6983030
Chineseです

>>6983044
whatever, i wish there was an extension that translates images instantly

>>6983030
>spent 3 years learning japanese
>almost all the artbooks i'm interested in that dropped in the last 5 years are in korean or chinese
FUCK.

>>6983058
IDK what your time/energy situation is like but you should seriously consider learning Japanese if you can. It's no where near as difficult as people make it out to be and it's not like you have to spend 3-5 years studying before you start using it. You can practice it while reading/listening to stuff you like after getting down the basics. If you enjoy Japanese culture to where you're engaging with it on a daily basis it's definitely worth.

>>6983030
これは中国です

>>6983067
nah, also like the other anon said a lot of books are also in korean and chinese
im just gonna wait until ai can effortlessly translate anything

>>6983079
中国語

>>6983080
Might as well wait for it to effortlessly draw anything too then

>>6983083
no cause drawing is fun
learning a language isnt

>>6983087
it's pretty fun and easier than drawing desu.
you just consoom.

Hey, /IC/. Can anyone share Vilppu's "Watercolor Sketching on Location" NMA course?

>>6983274
Sorry, wrong thread lol

Are there any anime-style artists that have mentorships or personal critiques open right now? I'm starting to get desperate as to my growth. This inching progress is getting old. Maybe throwing a membership at the problem would be a good investment.

I only started actually attempting to draw a couple of weeks ago, as you can tell. It's fun to see that you're actually able to sit down and produce something that at least vaguely looks like something, and it's also interesting to look back at your reference and realize that so, so many things are off. I'm mostly just drawing random things, but i know i'll have to face the theory at some point and i'm dreading it because all my previous forays into attempting to draw have been stifled by me being simply overwhelmed by the sheer amount of books, guides and videos there are on the subject

>>6981970
he looks a character I'd like to get fucked by!

>>6982097
you are drawing pornos!

>>6982584
amazing, I support you.

Try doing both steps in a single day perhaps.
You will get there I think.

>>6983440
K I N G !

I RESPECT IT.

>>6983456
ermm akschually it's a she

>>6983475
nevermind then
I keep it homo

>>6983458
Thanks anon、more to study always

>>6983691
different strokes for different folx

ノエル

After this years done probably just going to move to original pieces

>>6983987
First do some Peter Han for better linework. Trust me it's not a meme, it helped me a lot. Also take a quick look at lineweight, just a quick look at the whole concept anon, anime frames usually don't have lineweight cuz they are meant to be animated. Manga however has it.

>>6984097
pyw

how'd I do? wasn't trying to go 1:1 but trying to find "my artstyle"
not super happy with the eyes or headshape
mine is on the right obviously

>>6984139
wrong version

>>6984139
You're too much of a beginner to "have an artstyle" That face looks atrocious. Your artstyle comes from copying lots of artists picking what you like from them and fusing all of it together. That's your arstyle.

>>6984147
>That face looks atrocious.
I think I said as much in my OP

>>6984120
>>6984097
that artist looks interesting, not out of trying to say your advice is bad but would you also mind pyw, would like to see the end result of studying that artist

>>6984154
Just try to copy what you see anon, whatever you can come up with on your own for an "artstyle" it's not gonna be good. Don't fall for that trap.

where the good hair drawing tutorials at

>>6984726
if you are having problems with hair, you should go back to boxes and shit.

Could someone please tell me the exact proportions on the side of the face when it comes to anime?
I'm always struggling to get this right, what's the way to measure the proportions on the side of the face? I swear most artists have their different way of where the cheek starts and where the eye curve is
Please and thank you

>>6983409
A good westerner artist would be better in your case, right? Language barrier and all that
I saw Luimi offering overpaints on his patreon last month

>>6985102
I was hoping to just "nihongo jozu" it if it's a JP artist doing the paintover. I can't exactly communicate back fluently but I can parse the advice. But yeah I don't mind a western artist that's fine with anime-style stuff submissions. I just had a look at the artist and i'm not sure he's the kind of guy i'm looking for. Thank you for the suggestion though! I should probably look at some patreons and gumroads to see if something like this is on offer.

>>6984791
nta but I've been having trouble with hair ever since I started 3 years now, it just never clicked.

>>6985353
Well, drawing female hair is fundamentally a fabric strip drawing problem. I think it would be helpful if you can think of hair as overlapping fabric strips of various sizes. Male hair operates on a completely different logic however since they have short hair. For studying hair I found akakura helpful but might be challenging for beginners.

https://twitter.com/akakura1341

Had no anime screenshots to use today, so used an artist I like instead

銀のエセル

>>6985353
Just cultivate a taste for pixie cuts, problem solved.

red overlay, purple most needed corrections

>>6985353
i dumped like 20 hair tutorials in the other thread

>>6987113
not him, but which thread?

>>6977700
>a good figure video course/course in general to get to my goal?
Doubt there is one unless you get that artist to mentor you

>>6977700
>i can kinda get the construction of an irl pose, but i can't put on the human forms onto it or stylize it into "anime"
two separate issues

>cant turn shapes/construction into actual humans
Poor understanding of human body and lack of experience in drawing humans. Study each body part separately and apply piece by piece. Do more complete copies after studies.

>cant stylize into anime
Lack experience in drawing anime. Do more complete copies of anime art. Distinct parts such as the face needs studying.

Unironically at this point you just need to draw more. Do copies to challenge your drawing skills and level up your eye. Studies to fix whatever looks wrong.

Any recommended anime digital painting/rendering course? I finished medsmap and want to try something more applied to anime.

>>6987143
the previous anime study thread

>>6987353
thanks bro

Can I get some crit? I realized after coloring that the sleeves blend into the rest of the coat too much and should have done much thicker lineart but is there anything else wrong?
Got a lot lower likes than normal which makes me think I'm missing something else I did wrong.

>>6987230
>atomic bombing of hiroshima, august 1945

>>6987941
Head face needs to be redrawn, looks messed up.

Shiri looks weird as well and looks like its disjoined

>>6987944
kek

I'm aware everyone is different when it comes to learning things, especially art, but is there a specific technique of practicing that can give you good progression in how you perceive things and put them to paper?
I saw this guy @n0.impact's art and I love it. It's like they're putting my thoughts of what I wish I could draw in high school to paper. I just need a creative outlet again and this shit inspired me to get into art.

>>6987992
Immerse yourself with your subject and just draw what your observe. From the art I could tell the artist pays special attention to detailing clothes and props down to the folds and creases, which creates this nice contrast with the simplified faces. The linework and hatching are very meticulous, so you have to be like that as well. Start with placing an object in front of you and try to sketch it in different angles, increasing the complexity of the object as you go. Pick up a book or video tutorial about hatching and inking. Get familiar with how to shade objects with just lines.

>>6987941
>>6987971
nta but had a go,

>>6988090
Literal bug eyes lol

>>6988156
its over...

Anyone was there when Saitou's Youtube archives were shared? Basically I have 80GB of videos I cannot watch because it's all locked behind a password I forgot to save. I get it's not a big deal since he's been re-uploading tons of stuff but it bothers me still. I tried searching in the archives but I cannot find that thread again.

>>6987941
It's got the usual beginner drawing problems. The pose is off balance and out of proportion, the shapes are vague and lumpy, and perspective is nowhere to be found.
There's no real way to salvage what's there, just start fresh and spend more time on the intial pose.

>>6988178
>I tried searching in the archives but I cannot find that thread again.
You people really need to actually learn how to use warosu, I found it in less than a minute using "Saito" and "Archive" as subject keywords
>>>/ic/thread/6595065

>>6988223
My bad anon, I got the pass, thank you for your time.

>>6988226
No problem.
Learn your tools, anon. The archive from this board is probably one of the most useful things you will find for this "hobby".

roomis san i kneel

>>6988320
anime head proportions aren't based off loomis or asians at all, unlucky!

>>6988582
I LET THE PRINCE CHOOSE!

>>6988582
w-what are they based off of

>>6988720
cat

momoka (I can't render clothes)

Tried to copy, first trace over body in (red) didn't care about the rest, this shit already took me an hour

Tried to copy, first trace over body in (red) didn't care about the rest like the hat etc. this shit already took me an hour it's over

>>6988181
>>6988090
>>6987971
thanks anons
looking at early roughs my proportions were more in line w/ my ref but I guess I slowly kept over exaggerating until it got too ridiculous
also (imagining I didn't keep over exaggerating) is copying poses essentially 1:1 like this egregious?

>>6989024
Real talk how long did this take you
I've been drawing for 3 years at this point and >>6987941 took me like 6+hrs
I don't know why I'm so slow, sometimes wish I just quit

>>6989029
I was on the "draw a line, shitpost for an hour" schedule over the course of the day, so I don't know. I'ld guess a couple hours pencil in hand, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was more.

>>6989025
not really, and if you advance far enough to be able to rotate the pose in space you can solve that pretty easily

>>6989024
okay now post a copy of another LO cover

ミモザヴァミリオン

>>6989025
It's normal to do that.
But if your ref is standing on an uneven sloping rock, and you don't include the rock, then it's going to look fucky.

Y'all don't play enough Mario games baka...

>>6989024
let's do it!!

post some bullshit i made

>>6989029
its not as bad as you think (I mean its not great but its not terrible)
a major problem you have is poor confidence. like you're not sure what your next step is as to why its taking you so long to do something that's "supposed to be easy"

>>6990220
The years were rough on Lain....

I hit my 3 Month mark today, so here's a look back and everything I did over the course of Month 2

As far as personal thoughts go, I think i'm making decent progress, overall could have done many things better, been more diligent, did more practices, but ultimately I'll just have to reflect on those mistakes and learn from them for this month

I've also been doing better as far as detaching myself from my art, where I don't feel like i'm constantly comparing myself to others, nor do I feel as bad as I used to when I see another new learner doing way better than me

Overall, good month, happy that I'm keeping to drawing and I hope everyone has a Merry Christmas! I hope 2024 goes well for myself and everyone here with our art studies.

Also some of the days are super pixelated, I think I made them too small when I was making the collaboration image, i've been doing it in MS Paint and frankly I need to find a better method

>>6990355

red is overlaying it after

ミモザヴァミリオン

>tfw I haven't drawn anything at all since a week ago
>been playing fightan games all this time
I'm ngmi, go on without me bros...

>>6990615
draw fightan peepo

>>6990615
fighting games taught me how to draw

any tutorials for animu eyes

>>6990355
Do more original stuff.

>>6990652
pyw

>>6990671
Wrong thread

>>6990671
nice, but wrong thread

>>6990355
good progress anon, would like to see some more imagination pieces

>put i only speak english everywhere
>yeat again for the #923923468 time i get a message written i jap that google translate cant make any sense of it

my name isn't in japanesse i have never ever put any japanesse letters on my drawings... but i do tag my shit with jap tags... is that why???

>>6990696
Post some of the messages and ill translate them 4 u anon

trying to figure out how to draw half-decent hair
I think as a rule of thumb more light sources = more reflections = looks gooder

>>6990652
>>6990679
yeah I plan on it, I spent a lot of time this month working on faces because every time I would try to start a piece, I'd do the face and it would feel awful
I think I might be able to do some better things on my own though now

another one, this time focusing on linework

>>6990935
cute art but im not sure if it belongs in this thread

Happy Holidays /asg/ lets keep grinding for the next year as well

how i do

I haven't drawn in like, 12 years. Quit when I was a teen. Trying to start again...

Honestly I'm kind of pleasantly surprised? Like, it's dogshit but if you squint and pretend you have a concussion it's vaguely recognizable as the picture I was copying. I don't know, I put this off for several days after digging out my tablet. It felt like I was doing something terrible but it's just... a bad drawing. That's it. No big deal. I wish I could have understood that when I was a kid.

>>6990730
The eyes could use some touching up but I know that's not the point of the study. Your hair rendering's looking good, keep it up!
>>6990755
Nice loose feel but with good consistency, top notch.
>>6990935
Very cute, distinct characters that still compliment each other. Would read the shenanigans they're up to.
>>6991137
Good colors, cute character. Hand looks strange, you would still see detail on the bottom of the hand even if it's in shadows.
>>6991143
Solid recreation. Head shape is different tho, I would practice how they do their heads if that's the style you would like to draw.
>>6991197
More confidence, less overthinking and you're gmi. Looks good.

Looking good /asg/, let's strive for more improvement this new year!

fucking hate drawing hair

>>6991424
Agreed. I usually paint the shape first then draw lines if at all.

I'm just bursting in here to ask, is there a good index to look up commission artists for hentai? preferably with pricing listed too.

Reaching the end of my 'challenge'.. (Whole year Draw every day)

Assumed drawing every day would be the fastest result to improvement.. but now I'm feeling art is different to other skills which I can just 'grind out' through raw hours.

Probably going to take a break after this year and reevaluate how I want to progress, starting to feel that ONLY going for exactly what I want to make is the best way to improve.


>>6991197
nice
>>6991424
cute but face shape has changed
>>6991143
very good, head and eye shape is different but it still looks nice
>>6991137
cute

>>6991378
>The eyes could use some touching up
in what way?
I realized after posting that the reflections aren't consistent so I touched it up right after posting

>>6991424
me too compadre, but pic rel

>>6991467
>cute but face shape has changed
my goal is not to copy, but to adapt in a way that is my own

>>6991473
>how do I skip the boring part
This is me on everything I tried to do in life, fucking hell, I'm not built for greatness at all.

>>6991473
unironically, why would I want to be good at the boring parts??

>>6991521
you either learn to deal with the boring parts or you perish, crushed by their weight
>>6991467
>but now I'm feeling art is different to other skills which I can just 'grind out' through raw hours.
I don't think there's a single skill on the planet you can just grind out through raw hours
rpg games have been a disaster to the zoomer race

postan tonight's werk

>>6991521
"Boring" has been corrupted and now means "frustrating" in the current year. It's retarded, but that's how it is.

character i designed 7years ago

I really like Hajime Ueda, what should I study to draw like him aside from copying his art?

First time drawing, feedback very welcome
picrel was reference, catbox is my attempt.
https://files.catbox.moe/c1ckjz.png

Blue is overlaying after

>>6991611
cute

>>6992156
careful of the eyes, they are 90% of any picture, notice how the expression changed from happy in the original to kind of aloof in yours simply because the eye shape went from > < to - -
also your body shrunk a lot

>>6991849
post and lets see

>>6991833
what do you draw like now?

>>6992534
relined

>>6991833
relined

>>6991849
This was harder than I thought. I'm not used to such an angular style

>>6977777
whos the artist you are copying?

>>6992807
nta but that's takako

a few quick studies I made today. tried not to take longer than 20 minutes on each.

>>6993087
>tried not to take longer than 20 minutes on each.
smart, you wouldn't want to risk accidentally learning something.

>>6993088
kek

Why do people practice from different artists and with anime frames that have no lineweight.
Do you wanna draw animation or illustrations? Copy pictures from artists that do illustrations.

>>6993088
yeah, got no time for that

>>6965364
>Krenz Accuracy Imgs: https://files.catbox.moe/tklkj8.rar
uhh retard here, what am I supposed to do with them
do they belong to a course or something?

>>6993087
holy shit they're literally bug eyed lol

this is the least helpful thread on this board
>hey /asg/ I tried a thing
>fuck you, you did it wrong. no I will not elaborate and I will not post my art

>>6993233
Yep. The sooner you leave and just draw because you like it the better. If art is something you like you will eventually be decent. Grinding to the point of hating what you once loved is the fasted way to never make it and give up.

>>6993233
>no I will not elaborate and I will not post my art

>>6977700
WHAT ARTIST DREW THE HORSE GIRL I WANNA STUDY THEM

>>6993480
Check "bakushin" + "feet" over danbooru.

>>6993484
Thank you anon ur based

>>6993087
Anon why are you timing yourself, literally forced yourself to not draw any of them accurately and doesnt look like u used anything to be able to recreate them

>>6993097
I do it out of 'if i cant even put down a frame of a character I have no chance at drawing their likeness on my own'

>>6993484
>specifically searching feet tag
based

>>6993088
homo!

>>6993261
Clearly >>6993088 is a lame homosexual!

current wip

>>6993701
we love you

>>6993701
im cooooooooooooooming
oooooh baby !!

Blue is overlaying after

Mixed it up because of >>6993097

I started off copying entirely the works I did not find very arousing, as the longer I take studying something the less aroused I am by it and he's my favourite artist

>>6993701
nice anon keep going!

>>6993233
Hard to write a new textbook telling anons to work on their fundies every time.

>>6993829
Construction isn't the only way to go.

>>6993839
pyw

>>6993842
So you have no argument? Here's a clue: painters don't construct, they use shapes. Now learn how to think a bit before posting shit images.

>>6993829
peak crabs arrived with his meme image, what next the airplane one?

>gather references from both life and favorite artists
>apply everything learned from pic rel
Et Voilà, it's just a matter of mileage from here.

>>6993891
pyw

>>6993898
>>6987230

>>6993905
you're mean!

>>6993846
>>6993839
No work posted from nodraws, as usual.

>>6993871
The airplane and proko ones are just for fun, the box one is true facts. There's no such thing as being able to draw a figure but unable to draw a trivialized block and ball version of it.

>>6994069
>>6993871
Show me the airplane one pls

>>6992662
Still thinking about Ueda

Hey /asg/, am I doing this right?
The only structure I'm using is a circle for the heads. Right-most drawings are without reference. I wanna study a page of manga a day, but I just wanted to double check and make sure I'm not doing this entirely incorrectly.
Is there even really a correct way to do it so long as I'm doing it?

>>6994610
looks fine keep going anon

>Is there even really a correct way to do it so long as I'm doing it?
yes, the only rule is that you're using at least something to be able to reproduce what you're copying.
>>6993087
got so much negative response because all of it was symbol drawn (and time limited lol)

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>>6994779
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