/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>6957832
Remember:
before criticising any of my work I post, I will require this information about you
1. your full name - name and surname
2. the address of your current residence
3. the address of your workplace
4. your marital status and the name of your spouse, if any
5. your annual wage, before and after tax
6. your license plate
7. your place of birth
8. the names of your parents
9. your credit card number and the expiration date
and finally you MUST post your work.
If but one of these points is not met, or, if I am unable to find a Wikipedia page about you, that matches the information you have given, that lists you as a prominent artist in any artistic field, all your critique directed towards me or my work is invalid and actually the opposite of what you say is true and my work is perfect and devoid of any mistakes.
Also, when you do criticise my work, you can not use any word included in the following list because your post will automatically get filtered by my automatic filtering system. You must treat me like a toddler when you criticise my work or I will cry.
https://rentry.org/za5t5

Let's keep it nice and civil in here, folks.

What if we are all inside an anime right now?

Beginner artist faces a block where he feels he is not making any progress. Fed up, because he feels like he is wasting time, he tries urban sketching to gain a new perspective. Outside, he meets many new people, an art collective that is eager to include him, and an interested woman appears, however, seizing the new opportunities forces him to face his past that he has been running from.

>>6957853
kys please

>>6957853
I draw anime girls but I don't watch anime

>>6957858
This but I occasionally read hentai.

>>6957858
opposite. I read manga but don't draw anime. Unironically feels harder than realism.

>>6957853
>What if we are all inside an anime right now?
What if we're not and you just have an elevated sense of self?

Oh man I haven't drawn in a very long time...
That time is 5 minutes lmfao faggot
fuck you howie and fuck you crabs

I’m still not drawing because you people discouraged me. What’s the point in trying when you’ve already been labeled a permabeg?

>>6957853
I wish Hidaka sensei was real so he could yell at me and hit me with a bamboo sword until I can draw good

>>6957897
>What's the point
it's fun, you silly billy

>>6957897
embarrassing

>>6957897
I care much more about drawing than I do about what some retard on an uzbekistani irrigation farming forum labels me.

>>6957917
Yeah yeah. And if I kept drawing you’d complain that I wasn’t listening to your advice to KYS or YWNBAW.

>>6957946
>And if I kept drawing you’d complain that I wasn’t listening to your advice to KYS or YWNBAW.
and?

today's practice! lmfao. you live, you learn, you make a woman's chin too large and her head too wide

happy i took into account the tilt, but i didn't tilt the nose correctly
that fuckin chin lmao

>>6957975
also she's looking up-right, not straight right!! argh!

>>6957975
Anon, I see you're a beginner, I would rather recommend you follow the book: Keys to Drawing instead of drawing from photo reference. It will give you all the necessary basics you're lacking.

Everybody goes
>do gestures
But nobody fucking shows me how it translates to drawing the characters that I want however I want.
Why don't I just go straight to drawing what I want and trial/error my way there instead of dumping hours on gesture drawing that half the time I don't even know if it's correct or not, and everybody got their own interpretations for with nothing objective to measure against?

comiccc

>>6958001
moar, I want to read the full piece

>>6957956
Morpho?
Your new gestures are gonna look sick after this

>>6957993
anon...

>>6957993
You do gestures in layers
First you setup the figure with lines like you did, then you work on adding the volume with
ta dam, you guessed it
circles and boxes
How?
Ask Sensei Vilppu, watch his vids on youtube and draw along, mix it up with drawing gestures from real life, TV, whatever
Afterward you do master studies of take your pick
1. Morpho's simplified anatomy
2. Bridgeman
And there you have it, your gestures are now very fleshed out and naked
Don't be a poorfag and draw them some clothes
How?
Well the fun part is up to you to figure it out.
Nobody will spoonfeed you, it's up to you to search for it.

Distillation practice

>>6957993
>dumping hours on gesture drawing
holy shit that is retarded

>>6958025
I agree, he should do a few months, hours are nothing

>>6958031
holy shit you are retarded

>>6958039
dude said he wants to draw characters in various poses
What would you do to get there, draw landscapes? Back to school retardo

>>6958004
Yes. I mostly do gestures as warmup in about 60 sec, preferably under 30 sec. I would look at them later and realise how some motions can be solved better, but it would require developing appealing way to express form.
When doing morpho bit by bit, while it was not a magic solution to all body mapping problems, taught me how to quickly sketch with light lines to get correct proportions, and to simplify things better. Though the simple fact it gives a lot of mileage is good enough too. Not that afraid of feet anymore.

>>6958045
i would learn to draw characters in various poses instead of glorified stickmen in various poses (for fucking hours holy shit)

How do I make it not look shit?

>>6958059
with the Reilly method

I started drawing a parallelogram and went from there

This can't be good

>>6958048
Damn that's very crispp
Can I get a short recap on how you structure your practice?
I just do gestures, started Morpho 2 days ago and do some landscapes/object drawing in no particular order but I feel I could get more down if I did things in a more structured way

I think I've defeated the bara style

>>6958059
use only 3 solid colors, for now omit halftones, focus on big shapes for shadows.

>>6958070
use 5 points perspective for an eerie schizo look

>>6957983
I am working through it on the side while doing daily portrait practice.

>>6958074
I'm terrible at structured approach, lol. I usually would begin with some warmup boxes, cylinders, beans just to make sure I can move my arm where I need it. Then do whatever book I'm currently on (figure, perspective, faces), maybe do some face copies or body copies or whatever to clock a couple of hours in.
I saw this anon, who would do copies of different things, and then draw made up scenes with them in different angle or interacting with something. It looks like a very good practice, and I would like to start doing something similar. Maybe just trying to study your subject from different angles in general, like you would do a box or a cylinder.

>>6958081
hmmm, could try that

>>6957853
goddamn it,i was late for this post and couldn't post the surprised dog

>>6958130
>i wasted three years doing blah blah
>doesn’t realize that those years were crucial and he’s only attributing progress that he noticed after changing perspective

he’s ngmi

>>6958139
he made it over 11 years ago anon

>>6958140
he’ll ngmi

>>6958130
>>6958140
tehmeh... sounds so familiar. Is that olly?

>>6958146

Beetle I did for another thread, shading is all over the place I know.

>>6958159
Fucking nice dude, good attempt. Only crit I would say is as far as observation/copying goes, the angle of the legs is different, the form of the head is a bit off because of where you placed the highlight, and his horn is small and dinky compared to the ref. But overall good form

>>6958165
Thank you! I think I gotta pause and observe my sketch to really get the details right but I'll have that in mind for next time.

>>6958195
the human centipede...

Reilly method isn't working for me. Should I kms?

you know you need to actually learn it for it to "work" instead of just looking at a head with Reilly lines and copying those lines

Kim possible

>>6958213
shes eyein ma big bulge

>>6957853
and then she asks for him to draw her naked, but they end up fucking, she recorded and now using it as ransom to get into her prestigious art school. op now needs to make back all the money somehow with his art skills

>>6958208
I see you on /DAD/ portraitbrah, I like your work so I hope you don't quit. Here's a question: what lessons have you learned from your failures?

>>6958208
What you should be doing is focusing more on drawing and less on being a constructoid.

>>6957993
grinding gesture is a westoid trap
you want to do poses learn form, basic perspective and anatomy, gesture is there to supplement that

I really need to stop doing my gestures like this. I can only imagine what it looks like to an outsider.
How many of these can you anons actually read?
I'm very disorganized with them and often just pick another space on the page quickly thats empty when the next one starts. 30 seconds for each one.
I'm also trying to avoid drawing too small because I want to use my whole arm and not just my wrist.

>im very disorganised with my stickmen
cool dude, how are things at the elementary school?

>>6958266
Spend more than 30 sec on each, you're not FEELING THE FORM

>>6958270
>cool dude, how are things at the elementary school?
Badly as you can see. But I'll get it with time. They're gestures. Not stick men.

those absolutely are stickmen and you treating them as anything else is a waste of your time and energy, not that thats my problem

>>6958273
You really think I should? The time suggested by proko is 30 seconds for gesture exclusively. He did suggest 45 if you need more time.

What's the best advice to give
a complete beg if you want to make sure they become a permabeg, personally I'm split between drawabox and gesture.

>>6958275
We all gotta start somewhere anon. If they come off as stickmen to you then it's with time they'll not be stickmen.

>suggested by proko
proko is a hack? im not too familiar with him so i restrained myself but now im wondering...

>>6958281
only drawing from the arm
line weight
gesture
drawabox
loomis

>>6958281
>less thinking more drawing

>>6958276
Do you feel like you're getting anything out of those 30 seconds or are you mostly mindlessly scribbling? It feels like these 30 second gestures are either for uber pros or uber begs who can't make a straight line

>>6958281
I actually think i understand why permabegdom happens
A big reason seems to be not drawing enough and getting stuck on the same things without trying to progress or expand upon the fundamentals. If you get stuck doing gesture, it's likely because you're overthinking it or trying to perfect it when it's not necessary. You shouldn't exclusively do gesture.
It really just boils down to overthinking and not moving on with a certain subject or sticking to it too rigorously. You're going to suck if you only study loomis, but not only that, but if you don't expand your knowledge on other fundies also.

>>6958289
Good question. I see it more as an exercise, but I do feel I am learning a bit from Proko. I'm trying to be less hard headed about where I get my knowledge from and just trying to do the work and understand. I feel I am better understanding and more open minded to what Proko is trying to say so in that sense, yes.
The gestures themselves I see as an exercise, a muscle to be built up. Think of it like lifting a weight, I'm not learning anything from it but it is making me stronger overtime and better at lifting weights.

said i would draw today but didn't
i exercised though.
Gmi or Ngmi? i Can fix it all tomorrow. there is still time

>>6958357
Your mindset is ngmi
Literally pick up a pencil and draw bro, it's not hard

>>6957832
Blender, was aiming for an Italian dystopian cyberpunk feeling.

>>6958372

I think you should be posting in the /3/ /beg/, anon >>960431

>>6958379
fair enough

>>6958362
I will just the next day.
Its 11pm and i'm hella tired. I did well today on other fronts i can afford to be lazy with this one

>>6958432
Why even bother posting then? This is a drawing thread, go get a diary or something.

How do I stop being shit at seeing proportions

>>6958493
with the Reilly method

>>6957956
Another morpho sheet. End soon

shit positions

Resident shizos and shitposters as of Nov 30, 2023

>Reilly method, Loomis is a hack guy
>I didn't draw today
>I WILL NOT draw today
>good ol' ngmi crab
>py social security number forced-meme guy

>>6958528
Googly eyes anon will return to fix the thread.

>>6958531
I suspect he is one or some of the above

>>6958539
rude

>>6958493
This looks pretty good, what proportions did you have trouble with?

How can I improve this?

its fucking over, everything that happens in life is just fuel for self hatred

>>6958588
with the Reilly method

I'm tired of fundamentals I want to coom

>>6958524
Gotta work on correcting feet or else it looks too obvious that it's ai

still can’t group values intuitively it’s over

>>6958650
anon i remember you, i was the one that asked for moar. as a beg i think youre doing a great job, it is definitely appealing.

>>6958504
are u just copying straight from the book? have u tried doing anything of ur own yet with the methods in there?

>>6958237
Thank you. I've learned nothing.

i fucking hate everything...okay, drawing, maybe not as much

>>6958549
fuck off lunaticsoda, this thread don't need more schizos

Another failed Loomis study

Sup beg. Today i realized how important gesture is and why all the books said it is important: you automatically make everything more bland, stable, stiff, boring. Gesture is meant to counter that tendency.

>>6958662
anon if you arent willing to pick better medium, why dont you go ahead and render it more in the pencil? Keys to drawing has whole chapter about textures, you should give it a go so you can boost your portraits
>>6958617
that penis is not acceptable level of quality for coom
>>6958588
looks very competent to me, now draw some background and render it
>>6958528
i wish anons stopped feeding trolls with (You)s and let them starve, but they keep feeding them
>>6958524
i coom and kneel
>>6958493
https://archive.org/details/Keys_to_Drawing/page/70
>>6958372
Damn, that looks pretty good, is this all from native blender or did you apply various filters in photoshop after the render?
>>6958266
these are actual gestures holy shit, that is super rare in this general. 99% of anons makes contours or 3D figures and says its gesture. Though i will say you are supposed to do other exercises as well along these, you dont learn if you do ONLY gestures
>>6958195
broken spine, broken perspective
>>6958097
i like the get horny step
>>6958080
dont let the coomer drive you into unappealing shit like calarts, just be yourself and pretend coomers dont exist
>>6958710
lips and nose arent properly aligned but man the whole piece is SOUL, i can feel the depression oozing from it. I kneel

>>6958730
>that penis is not acceptable level of quality for coom
noted!

Ah yes Pawell
>Game he assisted to: "You are defined by your belief in God. Faith is a measure of how great that belief may be, and how deep it will go. In the end, only your faith will protect you."
>also him: "that penis is not acceptable level of quality for coom"

>>6958730
>these are actual gestures holy shit, that is super rare in this general. 99% of anons makes contours or 3D figures and says its gesture. Though i will say you are supposed to do other exercises as well along these, you dont learn if you do ONLY gestures
I'm trying to follow this because I like the structure but it also switches things up
https://www.brendanmeachen.com/soloartist

That said, I want to say it's only 20 gestures as proko said, but you are correct and I have to admit I have not been doing other exercises. I'm gonna progress through the course and aim to add more exercises to do. The bean is next.
I've actually done gesture before, so I'm not truly a total beginner, but I wouldn't call myself skilled either. I'm going back to get a sense of structure while learning fundamentals. I'm really trying to be patient with it to understand and using the whole suggested 4 weeks.

I actually did the composition one first because I wanted something new and that was interesting and fun to learn.

>>6957952
Stop responding to bait pls
>>6957956
>>6958504
BASED. I just finished Morpho simple forms last night. These look amazing, anon! You’re almost done!
>>6957975
I’ll second >>6957983 and say that if KTD isn’t really hitting the spot, then Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain might help. Or promo’s beg course, or Brent Eviston. You’re doing symbol drawing and need to practice your observation and accuracy, so you can learn how to draw what you actually see rather than drawing what your brain thinks you see. It’s the very first step that we all have to go through, and a skill set we all have to maintain.
>>6957993
You get the overall sense of the pose, proportions, perspective, however you feel works best for you. Some use scribbles, others use rhythm lines. You make sure the landmarks are right, and you block in the figure with simple forms. Next, you flesh it out with anatomy and/or costume if you want. Flipping is a good source to learn from, but can be too esoteric for some. Also these are two VERY good, clear videos on gesture and figure drawing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAY5N76VP8M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH6E_n51-BQ
Doing lots of gestures is an important part of gitting and staying gud.
>>6958001
Why’s the box/drawer full of pubic hair?
>>6958009
Yeah. I’d also add Hampton as a good resource for figure drawing. I’d probably go through his book before doing Bridgman and maybe before/while doing Morpho. I think you want to get some basic idea of anatomy before you start copying Bridgman. That’s what I’m doing, anyway.
>>6958014
Neat, but your observation/accuracy needs work. Look at how little cheek there is on the right side of the ref, and how much cheek you added to yours.
>>6958048
I fucking love the fat one. That’s beautiful work.
Agreed about Morpho being good mileage.
>>6958059
Practice. I think this is cute in a (please don’t take this the wrong way) child’s drawing kind of way. Soulful, honest effort.

>>6958531
>>6958539
Googly eyes anon has actually started improving this year, I'm unironically proud of him. It's a matter of putting effort into drawings or doodling on autopilot

Actually hol up, this doesn't look awful to me when it's mirrored

Could I... mi?

>>6958809
Are those copies or are you just applying the construction on random things?
Also, is that Morpho?

>>6958080
You have. Looks good, anon. I think it’s interesting that angular vs puffy and rounded muscles is the main difference. It’s probably gonna be tricky to draw bearmode power lifter types so that they don’t look unrealistically lean and angular but also so that they don’t look like bara.
>>6958070
You’re drawing. That’s good.
>>6958097
These look very good.
>>6958130
Based advice that I should probably start following.
>>6958159
Very nice. You’ve reminded me I want to try drawing that beetle too.
>>6958208
This really doesn’t look that bad. I don’t have advice for you on head/face drawing, but probably you just need more mileage.
>>6958213
Anatomy and the perspective of her hips need work. I think you might have drawn her nipples just a little too high up on her breasts for the angle she’s leaning at. Overall good, though.
>>6958221
This kills the crab
>>6958252
Nice lips, Reilly anon
>>6958266
It doesn’t matter. You’re doing this to train, not to present. As long as you’re getting gains out of it, that’s all that matters.
>>6958281
>tfw I started with a few chapters of Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain, Draw a Box, and gestures
W-what should I do?
>>6958357
Do lines and circles just to technically have drawn something
>>6958493
Practice. Do the observation training like what proko, Eviston, Krenz, Bargue teach.
>>6958524
Feet and limb foreshortening need work, otherwise great
>>6958549
I miss your googley eyes. :(
>>6958588
Breddy gud. The hand and forearm reaching towards us, especially the elbow area need work.
>>6958595
>>6958662
These look good. Carnivore diet cures depression btw
>>6958617
Understandable
>>6958650
Looks good to me
>>6958716
Failed?
>>6958750
Look at the angle of the head/face and the space between it and the arm
>>6958730
most of these are flat-out good! You should be proud of your progress, Pawell. It’s inspiring.
>>6958812
Same. I’m a legit fan of his.
>>6958916
GMI
>>6958925
Yes, Morpho copies

>>6958929
Can you try applying your morpho studies to models or create something? Interested to see

>>6958624
You are the same retard that bothers me in all the posts I make, I even uploaded the psd files in the previous threads so that they can see my line art and they continue to insist that it is AI, fuck you crab you filthy son of a bitch

>>6958929
Good stuff anon. I'll be back on the grind for figures again once I turn in my term papers for grad school are in in two weeks time. You made me dust off my copy of morpho. Here's to better time management in 2024 so that I can actually prioritize drawing. We doing it. >>6955573 this is the only thing i've had the energy to work on

>>6958992
You didn't upload any files ainigger kill yourself

>>6959016
Tell your obese mother that it would have been better for her to abort you, you screwed up you piece of shit.

here is tips for using art related community or whatever

Never ever post sketch
>linework it, if you don't want fully rendered piece, nobody wants sketch shit
>never ever draw without reference
>never ever read loomis if you want draw anime or stylized character
i'd rather read hogarth or bammes
>never ever reply to hostile comment
>never ever discuss about art
it's a fucking waste of time.
>accept critique if you get one
>never ever help people. they will repay with hostile attitude

here is tips for using art related community or whatever

Never ever post sketch
>linework it, if you don't want fully rendered piece, nobody wants sketch shit
never ever draw without reference
never ever read loomis if you want draw anime or stylized character
>i'd rather read hogarth or bammes
never ever reply to hostile comment
never ever discuss about art
>it's a fucking waste of time.
accept critique if you get one
never ever help people.
>they will repay with hostile attitude

>>6958588
embrace the coom
the coom is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural

>>6959107
what happened anon, had a fight on discord?

Day 27 of learning the basics n whatnot. basically the same stuff, BUT i sprinkled in a lil bit of torso practice after watching chommangs video on it. chill dayo

for the idiots who say that my drawings are ai

https://gofile.io/d/yb39CY

>>6959107
Right boba (her left) could come down a bit, ye?

>>6959127
hey anon, I don't really know or care if you're doing AI, though maybe you are

anyone could just generate lineart from AI, isolate it with an alphachannel, and paste it into a PSD if they really wanted to. I'm not the schizo who always interacts with you, but just saying.

>>6959125
good job anon, love to see it. chommang is great. you might like hampton and morpho for more reference material if you want

grinding fundies is a form of procrastination

grinding fundies is procrastination if you have no plan and are not working on your own pieces

>>6959127
Your art is sexo but the tits you put on are too big compared to rest of the body

the best inspiration to draw more is to start an intricate worldbuilding project inside your own head

>>6959168
that's the joke that the tits are huge

>>6959174
But I can't masturbate to them despite wanting to

>>6959115
NTA, but what brush and settings for the brush are you using? Nice redline too

grinding fundies is good for me cuz it gives me something to draw when idk what to do that day

>>6959174
"Your art is a joke."

>>6958524
blog?

>>6959184
That's ok. Tits turn me off too.

>>6959171
I started at 8 years old, and am now 31 with a massive universe that will be my magnum opus. As well as multiple other story and game ideas.
(Now I just hope I can find the right ADHD meds)

>>6959168
the joke is that the tits stick out

grinding fundies is a form of progress

Thoughts on these? I like the green one I did since I'm not used to implementing perspective or color.

>>6959188
the whole fucking world is a joke, it's a meme like your brain

>>6959196
I don't want a joke, I want fap material
Don't you get your on the verge of a successful coom art career

>the whole fucking world is a joke, it's a meme like your brain

>>6959205
There are people who masturbate with a balloon. You think the world has a universal fetish. Live and let live. I like thin women with huge tits.

>>6959185
It's a hard round csp brush with pressure sensitivity
https://litter.catbox.moe/e7lv2w.sut

>>6959212
I should buy CSP on sale while it is 20 dollarinos

>>6959208
I prefer

>>6959214
worth every penny

did this this evening, rather quickly and I'm very happy, next I want to make the bg tighter and improve some issues with my linework, desu I didn't clean the sketch and that made tings particulary hard.

>>6959229
also this one :)

>>6959229
Is she a feminazi committing suicide?

>>6959234
why??? wtf

>>6959229
tits or gtfo

>>6959235
She's on the tracks of a moving train, I'm just saying

how much longer until im out of /beg/ and into /int/? also, should i be drawing actual characters or just fundamentals until i can do proportions & perspective better?

also did some 3 minute figure drawing today, felt like good practice.

>>6959229
I miss Mag.
Very charming style and cool composition, only thing is the texture on the wall warped any possible depth on the landscape.

>>6959238
it's over...
>>6959244
fair

>>6959247
2 more weeks

>>6959248
thanks for the feedback! could you elaborate on the texture part? i had the same feeling, also who is mag?

>>6959200
good on you for challenging yourself, i'm not great at perspective myself but something looks off, maybe needs more overlap on his forearm?

>>6959229
cute, and nice train

>>6959261
You had the right idea and the lines even follow this logic somewhat, but because a lot of the bricks/pipes have straight lines instead of curved ones, the effect is watered down.

>>6959259
anything in particular i need to work on, or just focus on making an overall more fluid/clean form?

>>6959270
Oh I see, thanks

can someone give me some pointers? why do they always look so crooked

>>6959220
Does anyone know exactly how often CSP goes on sale? if i can actually stick to drawing consistently then ill eventually want to get it but im only like 2 weeks into genuinely trying and i figure sticking with krita for now is good enough till this becomes more of a commitment. Just, having already bought a tablet, im having a hard time justifying buying new shiny things.

>>6959297
last year it went on sale in december but in previous years it's been on sale in march, june, september and november
so if they skip a december sale again you won't get the chance to get it cheap until march

>>6959297
well csp is only 20 dollars right now. i say get it, bro

>>6959286
The line you drew for the very bottom of the chin/jaw is off, it should be going in the same direction as the lines going across the ball. Also study the skull that should help you a lot.

>>6959303
>>6959304
have never used csp, is it markedly better then krita or is it only marginally better in it's particularly implementations/niche bells and whistles, for a slight efficiency boost to workflow. I don't really use any of the bells and whistles with krita as is, just layers and a single pencil brush, so if it's more or less the same experience until i start getting far into the really esoteric pro needs, i think i might wait till sometime next year.

>>6959302
holy shit kek i love this

>been trying to learn how to do heads the past couple of days
>not going well
>today
>bottom 2 are from imagination
>they're so bad that i want to cry
i know doing stuff from imagination is a skill in itself but i can't help but be upset at how poorly they came out

arrows are the ones I came up with after referencing the other ones

>>6959324
if you're comfortable with krita and on PC you might as well just stick with it, it's a good app
really the only reason you should be looking into csp is if you're drawing on an android tablet, in which case the $20 sale won't do you any good since that only applies to the PC version but the $10 annual sub is well worth it

>>6959168
>>6959191
ok, take

>>6958014
>Nuscape vs osrs

>>6959338
sounds reasonable, ill keep on keeping on with krita then. thanks.

>>6959212
Thank you

>>6958656
Thank you anon!
>>6958929
Thank you too!

>>6959342
this guy has been grinding anime face so hard he forgot to do hands and feet

can I get crit?

>>6959342
Now that's what I'm talking about. Still something to grab while not getting in the way of hearing her heartbeat. She's got some serious abductors, though. Like I thought the quads are generally bigger since they get used more.

>>6959399
eyes are sitting on top of the face plane
jaw angle is wrong for this viewing angle
you've put it into an under and 3/4 view but are not using perspective
separate eyes by length of one eye

>>6959127
Just post a screenshot of your layers no one is going to download your link

im not too happy about the chest/torso. Gonna be spending the month doing studies and shit so hopefully ill show back up with some improvements.

>>6959412
14 peoples downloaded my file.

>>6959414
Hopefully not because their computers are fucked then

Hercules beetle lmao
>>6958965
Like this? Not super sure what you mean
>>6958999
Godspeed, fren. I like how the lightning pops in your pic related
>>6959107
Looks like her knees are on backwards and her boobs aren’t in the right perspective. Cute though, she seems sad. I hope you’re doing good, fren
>>6959115
Yeah… I dunno if I want to join the dark side. Might unleash such a torrent of degeneracy that I drown in it.
>>6959125
Lovely studies, I love seeing your non-study doodles, lol. They’re fun. GMI
>>6959127
I think this looks quite nice. I like the line work. I think the overlap of the lines on her hand/wrist/forearm are a little off. Very nice, anon.
>>6959196
Her upper body is all weird here and it looks like her head is attached to her breast.
>>6959200
Somehow the kimono lady looks like Scully. I think the perspective on the green guy looks weird, specifically the leg nearest to us. I’m not good enough at it to give specifics, sadly.
>>6959229
Looks nice, good job. I especially like the way her glasses distort/magnify the edge of her cheek.
>>6959233
Looks good enough to be in a children’s book or something. Clean, good design. Charming.
>>6959247
Ideally you’d be drawing your own stuff for fun, not just studies.
>>6959286
I think that grinding boxes and cylinders in perspective would help you. The front of the face is kind of like the front plane of a box. So thinking of it like that plus getting good at boxes will help your construction make sense in space. Very nice circles and ellipses. If those are freehand, I’m fucking jelly.
>>6959302
You okay?
>>6959331
Eh, it’s just a matter of practice. The two from ref are both largely pretty good. We’re all gonna make it, brah
>>6959336
Nice! You draw hair very well!
>>6959342
Mhm. Smaller boobs let the hips shine. You draw pretty well. Just study hands and you’re all set.
>>6959386
:)
>>6959399
You just need mileage IMO
>>6959413
Not bad! Head might be too far forward on her neck tho

>>6959412
>>6959418
So paranoid. I scanned it with virus total before downloading. Sides, what's a screenshot of the layer stack supposed to tell you compared to the original file.

>>6958549
Hey I missed u

>>6958213
Hope you're me posting from the future.
This is precisely how and what I would like to draw someday.

>>6959419
nicee beetle; thanks i would love to make a childrens book but my main goal is comics, also i'm very happy that you noticed the glasses distorting the face, i aim to create simple looking illustrations with lots of atention in details like that to ground them and gain a tactile like feel

>>6959418
what the fuck are you talking about???? It's a PSD file, you don't have antivirus or what???

>>6959424
that's an insane compliment. Dawg, I don't even like how it turned out...

>>6959426
>>6959229
Great stuff. ALso im 99% sure you are a female

>>6958261
>industry professional that wrote books:
"Capturing the gesture of the figure is the most important thing"
>random nodraw faggot on /ic/
"Grinding gesture is westoid trap xDD"

>>6958261
>>6959433
lmfao toasted

>>6959247
>>6959419
honestly, the studies have kinda been fun. i don’t draw much outside of basic fundamentals and rag dolls like these because i don’t know if i can make a convincing character. i was thinking of practicing by drawing manga/anime characters. griffith from berserk and mugen from samurai champloo namely.

i just think learning how to do all this is pretty neat (:

yeah okay, but which video course actually teaches you to draw perspective for CHARACTERS

>>6959115
is there some place I can follow you dude?

not finished yet but am i good on the lighting part?

crits?

>>6959419
Yeah like that basically, was just curious if you were only copying from morpho or applying it to references/trying to build something from imagination. Thanks man

>>6959433
t. westoid

>>6959419
>Somehow the kimono lady looks like Scully
Dunno who that is so it's probably a coincidence.
>I think the perspective on the green guy looks weird, specifically the leg nearest to us. I’m not good enough at it to give specifics, sadly.
You're the second to point it out so it's definitely a perspective issue. I'm not that good at it either to tell immediately.

>>6959463
Go do some cow shit mukbangs Ranjesh

>>6959297
Anon, I'm in the exact same situation. I bought the CSP. It gets down to this incredibly smooth pixel level that is delicious. Krita is great, free, tons of brushes to download. You can have both. Get it, it's $20, plus you get the free upgrade to 3.0 when it comes out.

Some poses from imagination. What’d I fuck up the worst?
>>6959426
Thanks. I like the attention and the thought that you put into your drawings. A comic sounds perfectly doable for you. Although… your art style is cozy and charming, so you probably shouldn’t do a coom comic. But everything else would work just fine, including horror. You’re already good enough that you don’t have to put anything off until you’re “better.” With your style, you don’t need much extra. Maybe some simple watercolor if you really wanted, (maybe for like a title page or something). But as far as anatomy and rendering and complex perspective goes, you probably don’t need that. Unless you want to draw a coom or mecha comic or something. But I’d be shocked if that were your goal lol.
>>6959430
:) seems you’ve made it, anon
>>6959436
Yeah I like studies too, desu. I love learning new stuff. I think I need to try to do more stuff from imagination and just for fun, though.
>>6959443
I think Kim Jung Gi has some, I think Krenz might have some. Modern Day James has some YouTube videos about it I think. I don’t know and haven’t gone through anything. I want to, though. I’d like to be able to draw characters in all different dynamic poses and perspectives. I can;t even find a good hyper angle pose reference pack. :/
So I’m just winging it at the moment.
>>6959453
Lighting looks right, your drawings are super cool. I think his oblique looks a little weirdly bunched/wrinkled/knotted up, but only slightly and even then I could be wrong.
>>6959457
Oh, okay. Yeah, no problem. Here’s some more stuff then. This time purely from imagination, without any references whatsoever. I think copying Morpho has helped. Especially with my understanding of forearms and how the brachioradialis moves to find the thumb.
>>6959465
Go watch the X Files now. Immediately. At least the lore episodes. Anyway yeah I need to do more formal perspective study. Figures in perspective are hard lol

i made a sketch after a month of not drawing

>>6959637
cute
i really like the way you paint/color

Anyone here know where I should shade?

>>6959302

What is it missing?
I haven't drawn anything in months so I don't know shit

two months in, i can copy stuff decently now, what should be my next step?
btw artists tell to use ref always, but how do i use a ref? say, i want to draw an oc in a sopranos pose, so i google a sopranos pose, draw the mannequin and draw my oc on top of that?
also, do you guys use ref for everything, right? if I'm drawing a character that uses a coat, I'll google coat refs and so on, so making a piece is like making a lego construction of refs?

Any tips to draw feet?

>>6959713
the Reilly method
>>6959719
the Reilly method

the Reilly methhead

I discovered that I love drawing cute ladies in kimono.
What do you think is the biggest flaw I should work on in that picture?

>>6959733
In my opinion your weakest point is the faces. Top right is the only one I would consider ok, the rest feels like the face does not belong to the body. Really like them otherwise.

epilepsy
>6959663

>>6959745
barf

>>6959733
your biggest flaw is not using the Reilly method

You know what bros, maybe it isn't over yet. The reason I had so much self hatred and shame was becaue I was running from my problems. It's time I face things.
If I was able to progress with art on my own maybe I am capable of dealing with my own problems.

>>6959757
Good for you
I can't do either and will die a sad talentless man. Soon too, if God willing.

>>6959744
Okay, I'll come clean, I also though it was the faces as well because last time I got told my faces were lacking, so I doubled down in face studies, but it seems I'm still not there yet.

I don't know why I'm stuck so hard on faces, it's like the most important thing in a character.

>>6959764
im just drawing to keep my mind off how much i wish i was dead. life is worthless

>>6959745
Cool. Tysm

>>6959773
I don’t think that’s quite how you really feel. Thankfully it isn’t true.

>>6959773
I feel the same but can't even draw.
I fell off the path so hard and the worstnpart is that i could still get back on track, i just wont

>>6959520
thanks anon this is very encouraging!!!, i hate coom so no coom comics for me, mech mabye i'm grinding cars and i like machines and that sort of thing, also i already use watercolor! i don't have any recent colored drawings to show sadly, also
>>6959431 I'm not a woman, i'm argentinian

So you guys all pay for your art program? I don't see any download links for photoshop or clip studio in the big sticky. I'm doing this for a hobby so idk about paying big bucks for them

>>6959867
I just use krita. There's some features that CPS has that it doesn't, but it's more than enough for a hobbyist or small time professional.

>>6959453
>>6957003
oh for fucks sake, thats supposed to be his wing.

>>6959908
what tf are you talking about?

>>6959931
i thought this was supposed to be part of his torso

>>6957956
>>6958150
>>6958929
>>6959107
>>6959520

blog?

>>6959932
how could that possibly be apart of the torso? you clearly see the line the ends of line of the ribcage.

thats his wings, Anon.

>>6959958
i thought it was weird too, anon

starting the chapter on hair soon

>>6959958
>how could that possibly be apart of the torso?
just to clarify, i thought you drew a weird pectoral (ignore arrows, not mine). in my defense it was black and white lineart.

Decided to draw something wholesome once in a while.
Here is Marge and Bart watching some Netflix.

>>6960115
heeey i know who you are
your aged up katara ss is top tier

I'm working on a black and white composition. Any critiques you guys might have before I continue? I'm still on the sketch stage at this point.

>>6960115
i'm not even gonna touch on the /ss/
why the FUCK does marge have bara daddy tier arm hair

I'm working on a black and white composition. Any critiques you guys might have before I continue, particularly with the feet? I'm still on the sketch stage at this point.

>>6960120
I do multiple versions usually. Shaven, clothed, nude, this, that.. you get the idea..

>>6960117
Oh hey! Thanks! Yeah, that one was a banger and got many likes/favs for some reason.

>>6960136
i think its the pose, with karata resting her hand on aangs head, very sensual

>>6960132
if the body hair is a package deal you might as well add peach fuzz to her face too and a grimes mustache

>>6960143
Well... I mean there is some mustache already if you look closely

>>6959713
A reference is just part your basic research into an idea. It's unlikely to be exactly the pose you ultimately want just like your initial idea is unlikely to make it unchanged into the final product. You don't have it because you want to photocopy it into your final image, but it gives you an idea of the weight and flow and structure you're going for. It helps you make quick thumbnails where you exaggerate or change the pose slightly to suit your needs.

do you draw a circle clock-wise or counter-clockwise?

>>6960175
Couter-clockwise is more comfortable for me as there' no chance of accidentally elbowing myself when doing big motions with my shoulder.

>>6960117
>aged up katara
Woah! Post it, please

>>6960179
can you provide a diagram of how you would elbow yourself? i cant figure this out

this is the last time I post this, I just felt it needed completion

>>6960111
take my money I need this pencil
>>6959855
really dig it
>>6959764
love this picture, but hate that I am on it.

>>6960136
Katara is my waifu and I'm a huge cuck, any NTR with her in the works?

>>6959745
I’VE SEEN FOOTAGE

>>6957993
Gesture drawing is a complete and total waste of time.

>Why don't I just go straight to drawing what I want and trial/error my way there instead of dumping hours on gesture drawing

I mean, yeah, why don’t you? What did you hope to accomplish by drawing stick figures ad nauseam? Are you afraid /ic/ will make fun of you for pushing your limits? Half this board doesn’t even draw.

>>6958710
This isn’t bad and I like that you have an actual style unlike 90% of this board. You have soul in the game for sure, keep up the hard work.

>>6960120
>>6960143
low T posts

>>6960257
SEXO

>>6960242
>>6960257
hank hill ass

I really like inking, but I'm still very much a beginner at it. I find it hard to know what parts I should be blacked in, what should be crosshatched, what direction it should hatch, etc. I also went too line crazy and made a mess of the lower half. So far tho, I've been studying a mangaka I think is great at this, so I credit any part that may look "decent" to him.
What do you guys think? Any hard crits? Any tips and tricks?

>>6960262
not sexo

>>6959453
Assuming you didn’t just trace over the original, this study shows a strong command of anatomy and lighting. Really good stuff

Tell the hospital I'm running lose, because Im out of control, high on the charcoal dust, the art spirits occupied me! I am the creator, I make life out of carbon, whatever I imagine, I manifest. I am the one writing this anime.

>>6958710
thank you!

>>6960267
holocaustian. i love it!!

i can draw the features of the head with the Reilly method but i cant recreate someones likeness right now.
dont know what it is. makes me angry.
i hope its an issue of lack of concentration that will resolve itself tomorrow morning.

>>6960310
its because there is no formula

>>6960265
How about this

>>6960310
because you're just symbol drawing with new symbols dillweed

>>6960320
I always appreciate hatching like this but its quite labour intensive, no? I could never

>>6960330
I don't think I've ever found it to be laborous, I've been having a lot of fun doing it. Time flies when you're having fun, you know? Then again, I'm not learned in a lot of mediums, so I can't say for certain I wouldn't rather do simple rendering.

>>6960257
Solid

>>6959520
Sick thanks man, I'm struggling on which construction method to use and how to build up from there but might give morpho a shot. Just despise having to copy everything but looks like its working for you!

I tried to loomis a portrait again. Doesn't look much like the guy tho

Is there any tricks and tips to drawing perfect ovals or I should just print that shit out and trace it till my arm hurts?

I seek critiques.

>>6957832
This thread is blessed with good Moai Energy

All my homies drawin' more

I refuse to draw moai stupid zoomer meme

what du ye fink of mae drewing....
pleas bea onest

Sup beg, 1 more duo of pages and i will be done with section 2. The last chapter is perspective so i will basically skip most of it cause i already know that shit.

>>6960600
comfy
>>6960597
why didnt you put in the tiny speckles as well?
>>6960562
you unfatenned and reverse aged the dude + removed the lighting. thats why he looks younger and less depressed
>>6960262
there is this huge book about inking
Guptill Rendering in Pen and Ink
>>6960115
LMAO
>>6959867
>>6959297
krita or medibang paint are free. CSP lags as fuck
>>6959733
drapery is the weakest
>>6959336
i kneel
>>6960717
fake beg, you tried to draw badly on purpose

>>6959233
this is cute. i like the simplicity, but there’s a clear understanding of basic theory. nothing feels out of place. very nice.
>>6959302
true.
>>6959331
these aren’t bad. don’t be too hard on yourself. i’ve found that doing three minute studies from something like quick pose or from your own libraries is super helpful. i haven’t even started doing faces yet, so you’re ahead of me.
>>6959336
love the shading. some of them could use a little more from what i observe, but im barely /beg/ so take that with a grain of salt. everything looks in place though.
>>6959399
the eyes look a little off, but i think your center line might be a little off as well. also that ear is huge. nose looks really good.
>>6959426
these are all so adorable :’)
>>6959520
this is big inspo for me, very well done overall. there’s a few minute things i’d change, but these are quality.
>>6959733
biggest flaw is the face on the top middle one. it kinda looks tiny. overall good stuff though. the fabrics look like they have convincing folds.
>>6960043
like the rendering on this, 10/10.
>>6960203
dark. love the overall tone of it.
>>6960262
this is going in my reference folder.
>>6960597
i think you’re missing a few apples. the ones you do have look nice though.

just doing more studies until i feel confident creating 1-minute gestures, then im gonna have some fun with it. these took about 5 minutes each.

>>6960736
lmao forgot to post the picture w it

>>6960729
it was mostly a joke, but i was trying to replicate the tomorrow corporation style, look it up, maybe you know little inferno (one of their games))

>>6960729
I tried putting the speckles on the apples but it ended up looking bad, so I focused on the overall form. Thought I was getting caught up in the details and forgetting the whole picture.
Is the overall form readable? I think my soft edges are look muddy and "amateurish"
>>6960736
I thought about drawing all the apples but my hand was hurting really bad. Thank you for the compliment.

>>6959451
I have a pixiv account where I occasionally post something but most of the sketches I only post here
users/14735673

Drew some gobbos.

>>6960823
what they tryna do?

>>6960823
no... not the gobbos...

>>6960826
Mischief, looting ancient ruins, studying dry stone corbelled arches.

fun!

>>6960597
Looks good! If you want to make it look a teensy bit better, I would:
- Fix the color on the rightmost apple (the one behind the big apple).
- Focus more on cleaner gradients Adding a small border of yellow-green between the green/red might be

gonna do featureless loomis heads for an hour or two wish me luck

>>6960961
Wishing you luck. Have fun!

>>6960992
yeha babey

What was the name of that site with free art courses?
It had online courses in the name I think

Day 28 of learning the basics n whatnot. didn't have much time to draw today, but I managed to squeeze in some animu(attempted Horikoshi's style since that's my goal) heads and a lil bit of torso stuff. was fun applying what i've been learning about heads to what I actually want to draw, even if they came out extremely messy. also, i quickly realized i don't know how to draw hair, or more so I have no visual library of hairs/anime hairs? lmao. if that's the phrase for it idk. same goes for animu eyes. guess i just need to look at more refs

>>6959146
i'll check em out, thanks fren.
>>6959419
yeah doodling helps me remember that that i'm supposed to be having fun also, based beetle.

>>6960266
assuming I might've traced this is probably the greatest compliment about my art I will ever receive in my life.

all jokes aside thanks Anon

>>6960961
i don't understand the frontal view at all

>>6961089
You don't seem to understand the 3/4 view either. Draw more boxes to understand 3d forms better

>>6961104
Thanks, I think I see it
Thought just doing the construction enough times and seeing where it went wrong would help me with forms eventually but I guess I'll grind boxes for a bit

>>6961133
can always just look at heads in that angle on pinterest or something, if you weren't already.

>>6961136
I was, but when I tried to construct from reference like that it always came out wrong that's why I decided to just do more basic construction by itself but looks like my problem is even more fundamental

>>6961044
Damn, ive been at this for like a year and a half and you are already doing better than I am. Oh well. I'll get where I want to be at eventually

>>6958070
The simple way to start off any 3D Cube/rectangular prism is that in one point you start with a square, and in two point you start with a vertical line. Now what you did isn't actually wrong, it's just in isometric perspective.

>>6958159
Lookin good. Whenever I have trouble shading I remember to go back to the 5-value system, and start with blocking in my shadow shapes before anything else. Your beetle looks nice and shiny!

>>6958716
Don't be so hard on yourself. This looks fine, just do more. And try setting different time limits. Like do a set of 6 3-minute drawings, and then a set of 6 5-minute drawings. For every drawing, aim for being as complete as possible.

I am beyond saving.

>>6958159
That's fucking cool and cute!

>>6961254
is this N corp Faust?

>think the aesthetics of Persona 3 reload are really cool
>tries to mimic the art style to make my own wallpaper
>realizes I don't have fundamental skills to mimic the style properly and cries
sad back to grinding I guess

>>6961254
I remember the urabe bro
should work on your faces more
learn what the lines are supposed to mean

Would any kind anon be able to red line how to draw a skirt in this position?


I have no idea how to make it actually 'wrap' around the correct parts of her legs here. I'd like the middle area to be somewhat visible from the 'stretching' of the cloth so that her pantsu can be visible.

>>6961384
I dunno, shit's fucked man

>>6961289
I really like this anon, you did good work, if you did not tell me, I would have guesed this is actually from a PC game.

One thing though. I think the girl on the top left is not fitting. THe right person upside down is ok, but then you look at the left and you start to think, its not right, the picture is upside down. I think it mayy be good to just sacrifice her and remove.

>>6961254
just make the hair wit hthe same technique you used for the body and learn to do it well (fewer lines) and its good

>>6961044
cool stuff, i save dd to my computer for the hair colors

>>6960943
fun it is!

>>6960540
based

>>6961289
>>6961452
Sorry I just researched the blue picture. I thought the whole picture you posted is one composition and your work, now I see that only the green water pic is yours.

In this case I think you perfectly nailed down the vibe/style, but you know, on the picture of the right, the water has a purpose, on your pic, it's just an anime girl above water. Looks good still, but you get me. You should mkae a whole wallpaper and post it here so I can see it.

>>6961392
thanks anon this helps a lot, even without the pleats that looks much more like the shape I wanted

>>6959637
do you have a blog?

>>6961466
>the water has a purpose, on your pic, it's just an anime girl above water
Oh I was so nearsighted I missed this. I was so focused on the art style itself that I forgot about composition. Also, I could have made her hair and clothes look more wavey to show the flow of water.
>You should mkae a whole wallpaper and post it here so I can see it
I was aiming this to be my mobile wallpaper, hence vertical look

>>6961287
No?
>>6961313
Everything is below dogshit but the face has no effort behind it. I can barely copy a reference and it comes out wrong.
>>6961452
Was trying out brushes. Don't like how the sketcher pencil comes out looking like a crayon but the finer pencils don't hide the mistakes.

I wish I could make my sketches look like this, Not too messy or too clean.

hey guys, whats a good course on rending and colouring?

>>6961585
>>6961585
>>6961585
>>6961585
>>6961585