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How many of you gave up all social and family obligations to focus on your artistic goals? How did it affect you mental health and your artistic ability?


Image source - J. Ferrer y Palloja. (1846–1946) 1846 1946 ; Title: A MONK AT PRAYER. , 1899 ; Medium: oil on canvas ; Size: 54 x 73.5 cm. (21.3 x 28.9 in.)

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This color palette feels both lonely and comfy somehow

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Official Zelda art

>> No.6939572

>>6939019
A monk is never alone, for the Lord Jesus Christ is always with him.

>> No.6939588

>>6939019
you should post first. your image is a man that has Jesus Christ, our Lord and savoir, at his side. He is never alone.

>> No.6939614

>>6939019
I became very isolated when I started grinding out art at first. My mental health was at its worst, and it led to a lot of negative consequences in my life. I became unproductive because of it.
There needs to be a balance between grinding out alone and socializing.

>> No.6939634

The script is already written back when I was a pseudochad so now I can just hole up in the basement and draw until it's dine and then die.
Or maybe just eat snacks and sleep for a while.

>> No.6939645

>>6939570
"man alone in open place" doesn't necessarily suggest solitude and isolation
this piece suggests more of a sense of adventure as the entire world is before him to explore. you can see that mountain? you can go there

while OP's piece does suggest solitude and isolation. despite being "man alone in open place" the colors are more grey and there's little contrast between the midground and background. you aren't even sure what's in the background as its obscured by a deep fog. even the sun is desaturated by the fog, all you can see is a man alone with his bible

>> No.6939799

>>6939645
Thank you for the well-thought-out analysis anon. Honestly. I truly appreciate the time you took to post this, it makes me aware of things I wasn't aware of before- mostly in regards to the background.
I see the differences in scenery, Links picture is more clear and open, evoking a sense of exploration, the monk is in a foggy space of contemplation.
Damn bro thank you so much for real,

>> No.6939803

>>6939645
>>6939799
Forget the background, Link looking directly at the camera to begin with completely breaks any sense of solitude.

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>>6939803
>Link looking directly at the camera

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>>6939645
interesting. what do you think of this photograph?

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>Artwork with themes of solitude and isolation
Pic related, Christ in the Desert by Ivan Kramskoy

>How many of you gave up all social and family obligations to focus on your artistic goals? How did it affect you mental health and your artistic ability?

Oh boy. I could write a novel about this, as someone who has actually done this. I'll dedicate some posts because I feel this a pair of complex questions that I think I personally have been through the grit of this shit dealing with addiction and alienating, pretty much everyone. Family included.


0.INTRODUCTION

I. RELIGION and UPBRINGING (Why you ultimately don't need God in your corner, but in trying times, There's no such thing as a atheist in a foxhole)

II. FOCUSING ON ART as a NEET (Why it is ultimately a challenge, as opposed to drawing in your free time amidst a 9-5 job)

III. MENTAL HEALTH and ARTISTIC ABILITY (Why talent as a youth is truly overrated and why prodigies do not always make for successful creative adults)

IV. CONCLUSION (On the Hero's Journey or Why you can always count on your friends; assuming you already can count on yourself)

I have 0 and I written out and will post the rest of the essay when I finish. For now, I guess I can just post the first two "chapters" just to see what you guys think so far.

>> No.6940740

0.INTRODUCTION

I was for lack of a better word, talented (I don’t really think so but I can’t tell you how many times people called me that) as a young artist despite not drawing and painting at a more “professional” level later in high school AP art.
I started drawing as soon as I was cognitive enough to pick up a pencil and draw. In middle school, I drew comics, “Probe 11” and “Shadow Alley”. I was heavily inspired by “Captain Underpants” and the “Treehouse Comix” featured in the books. I personally loved the storytelling aspect of having the two fictional main characters have their own comics that they drew and photocopied to sell at their school. I did the same. Each page, was more or less a single issue. Far from manga one shots, each “issue” continued the story along. I sold each photocopied page for 25 cents. I would later use the money to buy Sonic The hedgehog comics at my local comic store. My friends mainly bought them. Looking back, it wasn’t for the gripping (try more cringey) story I was illustrating about space or half demon (thanks Inuyasha) vampire pirates, but I like to think it was just because they wanted to support their artist friend and perhaps own a comic by them.

Fast forward, at 18, I win a scholarship in high school for some contest, $2000, got a 5 on my AP art portfolio, and just geared up to attend art school. My russian parents had other plans. Instead of fighting for my dream and gaining liberty through self sustainable means,( like I would later found a friend of my on discord did) I instead to chose to take the safe route and just do what my parents said, because they made it perfectly clear they were not going to pay for art school. They wanted me to go to college to be a doctor, and I eventually just gave up. Fine, how bad could suppressing your passion be?

>> No.6940745

(I hope this isnt derailing the thread, but I swear all this background is neccasary to answer the question OP asked, plus I guess I just feel like writing)

I. RELIGION and UPBRINGING

I was raised atheist and forbidden from going to church. Both my parents are STEM orientated, one being a scientist, the other a computer programmer. I ended up “rebeling” by pretty much doing the opposite of what most people do when they forced to go to church and believe in god, only later to denounce it all and become an atheist.

Atheism ultimately means you do not have faith or pledge your allegiance to anything outside of your brain. In buddhist philosophy: “Every living thing has a Buddha nature, including you. Do not trust any head above your own.” I like this because I think it ultimately describes my main problem with God, Spirituality and religion. Try as I might to believe in the divine, (down to the point of taking a Christian philosophy class, taking psychedelics, going to church)

>> No.6940747

>>6940745

I ultimately couldn’t shake the foundational memories of me as a child I had of lying awake at night and staring at the ceiling, wondering, scared even:

>“When you die, it’s just nothingness forever. You end. There is no coming back, not for you or anyone else that has left the land of the living (Sorry Jesus). Your time is limited and you better make it count.”
Or as Eminem put it:

“You better lose yourself in the music, the moment, you own it, you better never let it go, You only get one shot, do not miss your chance to blow, This opportunity comes in a lifetime”

That’s my philosophy in a nutshell. Go big, don’t worry so much you forget to live, but ultimately, I AM GOING TO BE THE GREATEST ARTIST EVER BECAUSE ONE DAY ALL THAT WILL REMAIN ARE MY WORKS.
You can’t exactly call yourself, or anyone an artist who doesn’t end up with a large body of works left behind when they die? Why call someone an artist if they make art?

Enough death talk.
Nowadays, I consider myself an Agnostic Atheist. I have a moral code that I subscribe to and ultimately do not believe in god BUT I’m not %100 sure.
>“Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.”
>―Marcus Aurelius

>> No.6940748

>>6940747
>Why call someone an artist if they make art?

*should be

>Why call someone an artist if they DON'T make art?

>> No.6940896

>>6940748
Hey, Boxman, how often do you smoke cannabis?

>> No.6941792

>>6940896
Not him but cannabis enhances my artistic process and makes solitude more fun

>> No.6942597

>>6940747
>ONE DAY ALL THAT WILL REMAIN ARE MY WORKS.
Truth