/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

why the change of the title?

>>6898017
Stop spamming threads you annoying retard.

>>6898085
because it's more than just tablets desu

>>6898085
>>6885220

Someone explain to me wtf is up with these threads

>>6898099
Chinese shill infesting /ic/. Needs to shill products in OP.

gonna leave a mini review after I try this out for a few days
hoping it doesn't suck dick and I can finally replace my ipad if I can find one cheap enough (because fuck paying $1700 for a tablet)

>>6898119
Don't care.

>>6898119
A fool parts with his money

>>6898101
The chinese companies Wacom, Huion, Xencelab, XP Pen, Apple, Samsung, Windows

>>6898017
Did schizo kun report the other thread and the useless retarded mods deleted it?
What a dumb fucking worthless nigger

>>6898017
Inb4 thread turns into an AI dumpsterfire.

>>6898119
Good luck, I think it's going to be great. Have fun with it and do share you experiences.

>>6898173
yeah I have high hopes for it. I expect the battery life to be shit, but other than that it looks like it will be what the surface pro should have been. I fully intend to return it though and wait to find one on ebay for like $1000ish if it's good, then I can finally be done with apple entirely.

What is the best free app for tablet drawing?

am i being an idiot for wanting to part ways with my Cintiq 22 and replace it with an iPad?
i would not change art program either, probably sticking with CSP because that feels comfortable
but there's something about a stationary shitty 1080p 22" low tier IPS display that slowly kills me inside every day

Display tablets are now less than 200? That's cheap.
Damn it's probably because I'm an adult now, but I remember suffering having to pay $80 for my bamboo Wacom like 10 years ago.

>>6898410
Depends on what OS you're asking for.
I should add that to op too maybe, but most people use one of these apps:
>CSP
>photoshop
>krita
>procreate
>infinite painter
>hipaint
>ibis paint
>medibang

Paint tool sai and fire alpaca exist too but I don't think they're that popular

>>6898431
Ipad has a much nicer screen to look at, but a 9" bigger screen and desktop apps and a tablet purpose built for drawing will feel better to draw on.
>>6898435
Yeah I think the 12/13" chink tablets are around $200 new

>>6898431
Yes, replace it instead with a samshit s9 ultra
buy SuperDisplay on the google app store to use the tablet as drawing monitor connected to windows, or use inbuilt DeX as an actual workstation, either way go to settings inside the samshit tablet to limit battery to 80%, stay connected to charger without killing battery; enjoy
hipaint is a procreate clone, krita is an actual desktop app, CSP is already there
no reason to waste time with applecrap

>>6899003
is there a big difference between the s8 and s9 ultra?

Is a TAB S8+ a good choice? Planning to get one next month.

A ton of Samsung shilling in these threads but I've never seen or heard of anyone using it for art.

>>6899509
>I've never seen or heard of anyone using it for art.
really?
it's a direct competitor to apple and uses wacom shit for its styluses.

>>6899546
>it's a direct competitor to apple and uses wacom shit for its styluses.
come on now, not that anon but i've owned a S8 before and it's just not up for the task
yes the drawing is decent (no way to install wacom drivers though, so its default pressure settings) and below pro pen 2 quality
the real problem with these devices is the lack of app support, lack of creative software other than illustration/painting and frankly appalling customer support and deals are by Samsung anywhere outside the US, they're shit even here in Canada

>>6899551
>the real problem with these devices is the lack of app support,
clip studio paint, hipaint, infinite painter, ibis paint, krita, how many apps do you need? literally all it doesn't have that apple does is procreate.

>>6899592
adobe support? fresco is a legit app nowadays

>XP Pen Deco v2

is this the same as XP Pen Deco Pro (Gen2) or is the Pro different?

Also is the company even trustworthy? It may feel a bit arrogant, but every. single. time. i see these companies, they are promoted via giveaways by small mediocre artist on twitter.
it just feels SO shady that they can't get big artist to say anything good about them and it's all low-end people.

>>6899630
>fresco is a legit app nowadays
no, it's really not

>>6899632
>Also is the company even trustworthy?
yeah? Plenty of big name artists have switched to chinkshit because wacom doesn't care about anyone but big businesses anymore. Very very few hobbyists or smaller pro artists are going to shell out $4000 for a tablet when they can get one from another brand that will do the same thing for $400.

>>6898130
>>6898125
Holy shit the seethe from a guy buying something that isn't apple or wacom lmao

>>6898944
>paint tool sai
>not that popular
gtfo tourist

>>6900754
Paint tool sai is oldfag garbage that wasn't even good when people did use it.

Have anyone tried out pic rel ?
It's called Repaper, it's some kind of tablet that mirrors what you draw on paper on it with what's drawn in the art program.
It looks neat, but i'd like some actual feedback on it before i splurge out like a tard.

>>6900769
im retarded and i forgot the pic

>>6900769
>>6900772
same question but for huion/xp pen note

>>6900765
>oldfag garbage
alright, who's going to tell him?

>>6900811
son I've been drawing digitally since before cs3 was released. Paint tool sai sucks dick. 0 reason to use it when krita exists.

>>6901010
>boomer
now that makes sense

hey bros, looking to buy my first display tablet.

which is better wacom one, huion kamvas 13, or xppen 13 artist 2nd edition?

>>6901673
A 16 inch

>>6901673
this
>>6901749

13" display tablets feel tiny. 16" is the minimum you should go unless you're talking about a standalone like an ipad or galaxy tab, in which case the art programs they use are typically more tailored to fit a mobile UI. shit like CSP takes ~1/3 of the screen realestate with its side bars.

If that's all your budget allows for its better than nothing, but even then you can generally find 2nd hand larger tablets for as much as a new small one.

!

While it charges, here's new pen (pw550s) vs pw517 and apple pencil for scale
Comes with a nice substantial feeling metal carry case that houses 6 nibs (3 felt and 3 normal) and has a felt nibs installed. Don't really like the slim design personally

>>6902398
>>6902483
nobody cares you sad loser.

>>6902496
keep seething, retard. Don't forget to keep bumping your thread, don't want this one to be above it in the catalog ever lmfao
>>6902398
Speakers are not surprisingly very shit. Touch feels as responsive as you'd expect from any modern touch screen. Old stylus picks up just fine and I'll probably primarily use that because slim pens suck

>>6902507
Again, nobody cares you sad, depressing little loser.

>>6902510
>n-nobody c-c-cares!
you seem to (;
>>6902507
Screen feels completely identical to my kamvas 22 plus, and absolutely fucking mogs my iPad as a result. The only thing so far that's at all annoying is that I've gotten so used to using my tourbox, that drawing on CSP without it is kinda weird.

>>6902510
Its always the cutest when you try to change up your writing style but instantly give yourself away lmao. I wouldnt wish the 'tism on anyone

They give you this weird folding stand that I don't really understand the purpose of. It would be awesome for an ipad or Samsung tab, but the kamvas studio has a surface pro style kickstand so it seems totally useless.

>>6902883
Size wise it obviously completely dwarfs the 12.9" iPad pro (and my old surface pro 3)
Drew with it for a few hours and will draw for a few more after I eat. So far the only negatives I can say are
>$1700+tax
>no screen cover like the apple folio cover or type cover which makes it being portable kinda iffy because it's a completely exposed screen
>I don't like slim pens
>speakers suck total dick

I've seen a pretty cheap Deco 01 V2. Is it still worth going for it if I'm a beginner and have never worked with digital drawings before? I didn't want to buy an expensive model right off the bat.

>>6902902
personally hate pen tablets, they're really unnatural to draw on and take a while to get used to. But if you want to try one go for it

I started learning to draw with technique recently on paper, and I'm struggling to transfer those skills because the tablet doesn't have a display. I'd really like to see the motions I'm making where on my screen for darker lines but I'm so inaccurate because it's hard to see the cursor. Is there something I can do to make the cursor easier to see while making the motions?

>>6902963
yeah, get a display tablet.

>>6902902
Yeah it's a great device for its price. Not sure what the other Anon was insinuating. If you're only exploring the hobby, then it makes no sense to burn a ton of cash on a screen. Almost everyone starts with a pen tablet, and some don't even move away from one, even after entering the professional realms.
Even for its retail of 70 bucks it's great value. If you get it for anything cheaper than that, then even better.
I remember paying around that exact price for my entry level tablet around 2011 or 2012, a Wacom Bamboo Small, which had a significantly smaller drawing area and far fewer features than you can get with an entry model nowadays.
As for the hand-eye coordination thing: it does take some getting used to but you should be fine after a couple of hours of practice. It's the same as using a computer mouse after all. One of the big advantages is that you can have it in front of you, easily reach your keyboard (if necessary) behind it and most importantly maintain an upright posture while you look straight ahead.

>>6902963
First, use your tablet more. And do so regularly. The more you use it, the more it will become second nature and your accuracy will improve. But yours is more of a vision problem. What software are you using to draw? You can either use external tools such as Yolo Mouse or Lazy Nezumi to replace your cursor with something more visible _or_ if your software supports it, enable something like a crosshair mode. TVPaint has a mode for instance where it extends your cursor's crosshair across the entire canvas for visibility. There's no way you'd be struggle to see what you'd be doing then. Maybe Photoshop, CSP, Krita, etc. have plugins for something like that.
Shittiest solution I can think of is to enable Windows' built in features such as cursor trailing or the find my cursor setting where when you press CTRL it highlights the position with an expanding circle... but probably not a good idea, lol.

>>6902924
>>6902997
It's just that it's in a similar price range as Huion H610 Pro V2 and Idk if I'm better off going with Huion. At first sight, they seem very similar, but Deco is cheaper and it also comes with a glove and a protective film. I wanted a cheaper model but with a bigger working area, it's just I don't really know much about drivers and pen differences.

>>6902997
I'm using Krita, I'll look into those thanks.

>>6903001
Huion and XP Pen are essentially the same brand, so don't obsess too much over it. They have very similar specs, same resolution (LPI) and pressure levels, as you said. The drawing area is identical too. I wouldn't be surprised if they're both manufactured in the same factory.
Go with whichever is cheaper if money is your priority. The extra goodies with the Deco sound good. Not sure how much a protective film helps on the Deco; meaning if it helps with tip degradation or gives it a nice paper like feeling while drawing. But I'd rather have one for experimentation than not have it.
Pens are also identical. Battery free, shape, come with two buttons.
Drivers should be solid if you're using Windows. People have had good and bad experiences with both, including myself. But if I had to take a favorite, it would be XP-Pen in this department.
The only thing I'd consider at last would be their quick access buttons. I'd watch some video reviews on how they feel and respond. If they feel cheap or hard to press. My second tablet was an Intuos 5 and it came with a weird condom rubber spanned over its express keys. Made pressing the buttons extra inaccurate and highly resistant. From the images I've seen, Huion's express keys look a tad nicer, but it's hard to tell which one are better. If I had to guess I'd say they are very similar, as every other aspect about them. Maybe express keys is not even something you'll be using. But who knows, maybe you'll reach a point where you shove away your keyboard, lean back and relax while drawing some and you'll appreciate your handful of tool buttons. After all, most people don't use too many functions: brush hotkey, eraser, undo, brush size +/-, hand tool, and eye dropper - plus one extra just in case. I suppose that's why most devices come with eight buttons total.

>>6902510
You keep replying to him though lul

>>6903040
I see, thanks a lot, anon. I'll be going with Deco then since it's cheaper. I've heard the buttons feel kinda cheap, but I have a feeling I'll probably be using my keyboard more due to my old PS habits anyway.

>>6902997
>If you're only exploring the hobby, then it makes no sense to burn a ton of cash on a screen.
1st gen ipad pros can be had for like $100. Older display tablets can be had for as little as like 40 bucks. Pen tablets suck dick and are more likely to turn you away from digital art and just go back to trad instead of slogging through getting used to them.

Digital art isn’t real art.

>>6903602
Anon, I live in a third world shithole, there's no fucking display that's less than 400 usd when you add in the taxes.
>inb4 you should buy an used ipad
those are more expensive than buying a brand new display unironically

>>6904108
damn that sucks, go for the pen tablet then.

Not sure which thread is the real one so just going to post in both:

Is this ebay listing legit? Seems to be from the official XPEN ebay

https://www.ebay.com/itm/394316031031?hash=item5bcf112437%3Ag%3AQ40AAOSwsVpkmUWB&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAAwGJIcH%2FGK12KQ95nq2kXoMgDc4tlFjmdYG48HeUI1srmiTYnHu7%2FzmTY0noQk49pkc2b4q8MKliZ4%2FsqGD7ZorTOZ6C%2Bc9zz%2Fa7BODdzLIa1h78dm5I4f3mekWy3neCdwFkBfjRZD9GbcBKbcZaSPhGrYYp1Y4LzD3o12p4w0Bt5297UyaRYX3VUSCoAK67%2FaTlSL5I1w5z2LWcmLHs4Kr5YzrdUpsmAWLFDC1YjyZ4Ji0bjdKhy7Cdgk6xq6MkWHQ%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABlBMUMz0ja7sYg&LH_All=1

Is this xp pen artist 16 2nd gen a decent tablet? It's on sale for $240. Not expecting something super good just something that gets the job done till I can save up for something else. Is this the best in the 240 price range?
Any help is very appreciated

>>6904395
>Is this ebay listing legit?
yes
>Is this xp pen artist 16 2nd gen a decent tablet?
also yes
>Is this the best in the 240 price range?
also also yes (probably)
If you're willing to spend a bit more, you can probably get a 16 pro instead, or if you're okay with 2nd hand, it really just depends on what deals you can find. The color range on every tablet brand's base models (non pro/plus) is kinda mediocre, but it will be fine to get by.

another option would be getting a 2nd gen ipad pro, which you could still use after you get something else as something to draw with when you're away from your computer.

>wishes for an updated slightly larger Cintiq
>gets two overpriced nonsense
Fuck this monkey paw shit. I just wanted a 1440p 22 or a 17 inch without all that bell and whistles for Christmas.

alright, final thoughts overall (was going to give it a few days but I don't see my opinion on anything changing with more time) on the kamvas studio 16
positives:
>identical drawing feel to my desktop tablet, I don't feel like I'm sacrificing anything to draw away from my desk (huge positive)
>large screen so CSP and other desktop apps still have adequate space for UI and canvas
>built in stand is the same as what's on surface pro, so a very good stand
>doesn't get very hot and no noticeable fan noise
>normal desktop windows
>responsive touch, not janky like the previous gen cintiq touch (not sure how mobilestudio is, but the cintiq I tried had unbelievably shit touch)
>good color/contrast
>good resolution/pixel density
>pen comes with a nice carry case

negatives:
>speakers are tinny garbage (just use headphones, but still)
>no screen cover to protect the screen when not in use
>much heavier than other tablets (ipad with a case weighs ~2.2lbs, kamvas studio is 3.75 on its own)
>no where to attach the pen when not in use
>$1700 fucking dollars
>don't like the slim pen that comes with it (purely subjective)
>large screen is a bit too big and doesn't feel as portable as my iPad (no screen protection and weight adds to this feeling)

Not sure where to put this, but battery life is ~4 hours, and takes like 90ish minutes to full charge from dead

I like it, will replace my ipad with one eventually. Just not for $1850. Hopefully they make a cover for it eventually.

>>6904954
Repairability? How easy to (eventually) remove the battery and disk?
Like your surface pro, it's a glued piece of shit, how does it compare to the kamvas?

>>6904972
brother I've had it for 1 days and am going to return it, you think I'm gonna try to pop it open and see if it would be repairable if it ever needed to be?
I'm going to assume it's as serviceable as any other comparable tablet.

Has anyone tried the KD200? Looking for a huion with the pentech 3.0 and this one's unironically the cheapest one in my area.

now that wacom is updating their lineup you think there is any chance they will also update the intuos pro lineup?

>>6905474
considering they want $4000 for a tablet that costs $400 from their competitors, does it even matter?

>>6905478
unfortunately I'm not interested in display tablets. maybe they can provide something new through a refresh. the current lineup came out in 2017. maybe bring back the rotation sensitivity on a new pen idk.
just want to know I have all the options available to me before I make a final decision.

Got an Intuos Pro recently and the nibs wear off really quickly, is this common? Does the surface need to adjust or whatever? I've noticed they stopped selling the smooth surface which makes me think it's a scheme to sell more nibs but idk.
I already draw quite lightly, this advice isn't gonna do it for me

>>6905512
They'll do a refresh simply for their new pro pen 3, but when they'll do that is unknown

>>6905836
>Got an Intuos Pro recently and the nibs wear off really quickly, is this common?
yes
you're basically drawing on sandpaper.

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/introducing-huawei-matepad-11-5-112329908.html

Will e-ink shit ever get good enough?

I have a ipad pro 2020, is it good enough for learning? Also I noticed that when I gain static the pen goes full jitter, how bad is it without the screen protector?

The twitter users yearn for cheap chinese goods

>>6906127
the ipad pro is a better piece of hardware than wacom in every way for less than half the price, the only downside is it's smaller
i can agree the other brands are shit but you dont have to deepthroat wacom cock so far that it comes out your ass, theyre obviously inflating their prices to a retardedly high degree

>>6906038
>eliminating pesky light reflections that has plagued tablet users for years
this seems like it was written by someone that doesn't draw. the etched glass is to attempt to replicate the tooth paper has, glare isn't what anyone gives a shit about.

I wonder if the Cintiq 22 can be taken apart and have the screen replaced with a higher res one while keeping the digitizer. I literally do not need any of the shit the pro lineup offers.

>>6906473
nigga wut
Does that sound like something reasonable to do to you?

>>6902902
I used the Deco 1 V1 for 3 years before the pen broke (It got caught on my shirt and got flinged across the room, damaging internal components rendering the tablet useless)
, I bought one of their star product line as a replacement and used its pen for the deco 01 v1 for a year then I finally switched to my current intuos pro L pth 851

Deco 01 - though the build is very plastic ,it is built like a tank , I just hope Xp pen improved their old pen for it so it wouldnt fucking die from falling off the desk or something.

>>6906127
I have a cintiq already, and if you think that Wacom releasing a 17" at 2.5k is reasonable, you have lost your goddamn mind. Unironically might get a 24pro now because it dropped in price.

>>6906127
lol these things have been $2000+ dollars for 20 years. Somehow despite mineral chains being wider. Somehow despite automation. Somehow even despite cheap alternatives.

They used to be affordable only by people that made it and the only other people that had used them were for work at a studio doing FX or whatever. They'd buy several Cintiqs at the asking price and return for replacements. So would another company. So on and so on. The wait on them used to be 6 months because they were the only dog and they were big. I think "the industry" (FX, animation, etc) buying these at ridiculous prices because they can is why the prices are so stupid.

I love Wacom but there's no way this price is still worth it. No wonder the brand wars for these things is so hot.

>>6907909
>lol these things have been $2000+ dollars for 20 years.
Difference being they're no longer the only viable option. There's a reason so many artists are jumping ship to Chinese brands offering similar quality for literally 1/5 the price.

How do you set up a screen tablet? No way feels comfortable

>>6908468
what have you tried? mine's sitting on an arm at like a 75 degree angle about 2" above my desk. could do the same thing just putting it on a 2" riser and using the stand that came with it.

>>6907909
Nobody is buying them not even studios when they are laying off troons left and right lmao.

>>6908468
this works fine for me

>>6908468
this works fine for me

>>6908468
this works fine for me

>>6908544
Don't speak about studios like you'd ever be hired by one you retarded beglet.
They can put these outrageous prices because every studio buys the latest wacoms in bulk when they need tablets, they're specifically target pricing studios instead of single consumers.

>>6908612
nta, but smaller studios are buying alternatives now. They're good enough. There are Japanese animation studios using the recent xp pen 16.

>>6908612
>every studio
you need to realize just how many studios exist. broaden your scope beyond just the disneys of the world.

>>6908612
fucking MADHOUSE uses chinese tablets nowadays, that's a top tier JAPANESE animation studio that mogs every 2d shithole in the west
only silicon valley 3D rigging expresso "studios" buy wacom nowadays and that's because their managers don't know better

>>6908687
source on your claim?

>>6908703
dont have a link with me atm

>>6908703
>>6908730
https://twitter.com/Nakayasee/status/1705931202853470448
nvm quick google found me more stuff, as u can see its true

>>6908732
>>6908730
wacummers what are we gonna do? is it over?

>>6909006
$2500 for the 17in cintiq. Yes it’s over.

>>6908612
>beglet
Post your work schizo

>>6909434
For that price I would by a 4k ultrawide 240hz monitor and an intuos pro.

>>6909741
For that price you could buy a high end pc, a good main monitor, and a display tablet from a less Jewish brand. Wacom is beyond retarded

>>6909774
guzzler is having a stroke kek

It's always fun to see the seethe over Wacom. Just stick to Huion or XP-Pen

>>6909911
Do you worry about which brand of microwave your neighbors use in their kitchen?

>>6909916
No? Microwaves all do the same shit

>>6909920
That is factually dishonest and incorrect. Not all microwaves are built the same

>>6909921
Ok well if you need the better microwave then just buy it, what's the problem bro?

>>6909927
Well, the same concept goes for tablets.

>>6909930
This just sounds like you don't have $2.5k to spend

>>6909911
>Just stick to Huion or XP-Pen
Thanks I will
>>6909920
So do all modern tablets.
>>6909931
I have more than enough to drop $2500 on a tablet without it affecting me in any meaningful way. But why the fuck would I? Why should I give wacom 5x as much for virtually the same product?

>>6909942
That's the point anon. Just buy what looks nice for you + there's a whole lot of hidden fees to these new Wacoms like actually making sure your setup can actually handle 4k120Hz

I'm $1300 poorer now...

Think it's worth it to invest in the huion kamvas 22/22 pro in this year? They're already a couple years old and I'm scared that a new one might come out right after a buy one.

Any thoughts on the gaomon PD1161? It's my first screen tablet. I tried to use a screenless Intuos for a year and found it impossible. No, I can't spend $300+ for an S6 Lite.

>>6911221
22 pro is outdated, 22 plus is what you want.
Aslo "the new one" already came out.
https://www.huion.com/products/pen_display/Kamvas/kamvas-rds-220.html
It's the same as the 22 plus just with a slightly wider color gamut and higher resolution (1440p instead of 1080p)

>>6911234
I've never used any gaomon product so I can't really say for sure, but
https://gaomon.net/products/refurb-pd1161-pen-display?variant=46709029962033
>$90
holy fuck I had no idea you could get any display tablet for that cheap. My money's on it feeling kinda shit to use, with it being a very tiny cheap display. Maybe buy it from somewhere with a good return policy to try it out and see if you like it.
If it sucks, you should be able to find decade old wacom for roughly the same pric. They'll have the same problems with parallax and shitty colors, but you can still make good art with them. I've seen people selling cintiq 22/24hds for like $50-100 before.
Alternatively like I mentioned to someone else, 1st gen ipad pros can be found for around $100-150 and are good mobile displays that you can use even after getting a bigger desktop display down the road.

>>6911253
>$679
Damn it's unfortunately out of my price range.

How is this xp pen artist 22 2nd gen? I was between this and the Huion kamvas 22 pro

>>6911626
Meant to link to:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/393867723624?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D777008%26algo%3DPERSONAL.TOPIC%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20230823115209%26meid%3Df81ee7e137b343bb93b0dd82facfc144%26pid%3D101800%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26sd%3D394316031031%26itm%3D393867723624%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D4375194%26algv%3DRecentlyViewedItemsV2SignedOut%26brand%3DXP-Pen&_trksid=p4375194.c101800.m5481&_trkparms=parentrq%3A7d2df2a018b0a5125b88c6e3fffe94c0%7Cpageci%3Ae66f5b92-769b-11ee-ad11-422917c5d9a9%7Ciid%3A1%7Cvlpname%3Avlp_homepage

Does this seem like a good deal for $400

>>6911626
>>6911653
Etched glass is a very good upgrade over screen protectors. I've had 0 problems with my refurb 22 plus

>>6911696
Woah that's a huge discount. Thanks for putting me onto this

>>6911706
no problem, that's where I got mine over a year ago. Have had zero problems with it

/beg/ here, years ago i bought an >ugee M708 tablet and only recently it came to my knowledge there are screen protectors(called PVC graphite screen protector on aliexpress) to these kind of tablets as well.
My question is: is it worth buying one? if so which would fit because i couldn't find one that seems to fit. Would they ruin the sensitivity,resolution,etc. considering its an additional layer between the screen and the pen?

>>6912618
have you tried just using a sheet of paper?

>>6912669
as in using that and just draw because i'm /beg/ or using it as a screen protector?

>>6912683
the 2nd one
put a sheet of paper over your tablet. It will eat nibs faster, but it feels more like drawing on paper for obvious reasons

>>6912689
didn't think about that at all to be honest even though i faintly remember seeing such a "setup" before but at that time it wasn't important so naturally i forgot

>>6910564
postman didn't deliver my shit today and I'm a bit angry

Why do I have to pay for CSP on my Galaxy Tab S8 even though I bought the desktop app? What am I doing wrong?

>>6914129
because it's a different license.

$1134 on ebay
feelsgoodman
dumbass put a screen protector on it though lol

>>6908730
Is that the new 16 inch xp-pen tablet? I was thinking of getting that one

>>6908730
not that anon, but found it through image search
https://twitter.com/Yuyucow/status/1709939687136366940

>>6914985
oh no wabrothers it really is over

Does having a screen tablet REALLY change that much from using a screen less tablet?
Is it more natural? I feel like struggle with the latter.
ASking because never going to be able to afford one since they are expensive as hell.

>>6915763
>Does having a screen tablet REALLY change that much from using a screen less tablet?
yes
>Is it more natural?
kinda obvious, but yes
>ASking because never going to be able to afford one since they are expensive as hell.
buy used.

>>6914934
I absolutely love this thing, thanks /dtg/

>>6914934
meanwhile wacom gave up on the mobile studio kek

256gb ipad pro 12.9 is more than enough for space right

>>6917940
Depends what you're doing with it. I got by with a 32gb ipad pro, but I used it exclusively for drawing. 256 should be more than enough

>>6917956
basically only drawing/piano sheets and probably reading books/manga. so yeah i think 256gb is way more than enough to last me a while

Any of you guys use touch screen laptops?

>>6901010
Does krita even work on tablets?
The og question was asking about TABLET drawing.

The guy is probably using android.

>>6918125
Krita is on Android

>>6909916
Actually, Yes.
A chink Smart microwave might be trying to ping every Wi-Fi router in a 500 ft. radius and if all my neighbors were using chink smart microwaves the channel saturation/congestion will actively degrade the performance of my wireless devices.

But this doesn't really apply to drawing tablet.
Just had to let you know.
The amount of smart devices a person has, the more of a public nuisance they can be.

guess i'll try here
any recommendation on what's the best tablet to use when traveling, nothing bulky or pain in the ass to bring?
if its an ipad pro, what specific version is recommended, if its possible i want it somewhere on the cheaper side
so i guess i'm open to android stuff

>>6918678
For me it's the Tab S8/S9 or iPad 11"
Pretty portable (they're notebook sized), battery lasts fairly long.

>>6918678
If you go the iPad pro route, dont go older than 3rd gen (2018)
That's when they reduced the bezel size, switched to usb c, and switched to the apple pencil 2 that charges wirelessly.

>>6918617
I hate """"smart"""" devices so fucking much. Went to home depot to buy new light switches for my house and they had wifi enabled dimmer switches.

>>6918133
Is it good on Android?

>>6920299
I tried it on my phone
it didn't end well

>>6920299
no

>>6920325
I don't see any feasible way to make it work on a phone, no
Even with a note 10+ this is how shit it looks
I imagine with a tablet it's much more serviceable, but at the end of the day it's still krita.

>>6920380
honestly if you want to draw on your phone or even your tablet just download hipaint or infinite painter
both work fine and have a UI that actually works on phones

>>6920571
I use ibis paint on my phone
works well

Does anyone have recs for a good monitor? I prefer screenless tablets and my current monitor is a gayming one with pretty bad colors/values/adjustments so I'd like to upgrade.

>>6920669
I would choose a 1440p IPS panel with features that are important to you.

>>6920299
Depends heavily on the device hardware

>>6921195
Whats the rationale behind 1440 over 4k?

>>6920669
m27q is a pretty popular one, but most IPS panels are made by the same company. Whatever monitor you get, use a colorimeter to calibrate it.

>>6918716
>>6918818
guess i'll go with the ipad route since i have two samsung devices (a8 2018 & s5e) that kept saying "moisture detected in charging port" even though i havent spilled anything near it
unless ipad has the same problem

>>6920669
It would have to be a 10-bit monitor, dont listen to any of these niggers, look for a 10-bit ips monitor, or just buy a fucking retina display. those are meant for graphic usage.

>>6921533
What will that actually get me? If an 8 and ten bit display both cover 100% srgb what's the effective difference?

>>6908608
the bezel on this thing is ridiculously hideous holy crap we're in 2023 why is this so ugly, fuck wacom huion is way better

Pretty Happy with my Intuos pro from 2015 and deco 01 v1
I'm kinda surprised artists don't talk about PC specs here or anyplace that much.
I've been meaning to buy a Mini PC to replace my full ATX tower,
main reason is because of space and energy consumption/efficiency, and my pc is like 4yrs old now.
heard mac M1's are energy efficient but I don't want to get into the apple ecosystem because of their crazy ass prices.
anyone here uses any models of Dell Optiplex , Lenovo Thinkcentres or HP Pro/Elitedesks ?
I only use Clip studio paint and GenP pirated Photoshop for post processing,
are they reliable to use as a drawing/productivity only pc?

>>6921769
>anyone here uses any models of Dell Optiplex , Lenovo Thinkcentres or HP Pro/Elitedesks ?
people still buy prebuilts?
this is a question for >>>/g/
this thread realistically should be too, but it's extremely loosely art related.

>>6921769
What will this actually do for you? 4 years isn't that old for a computer, I've been using mine for at least 8. Personally I would invest that into education, like critiqued lessons or a mentorship.

>>6921551
no color banding.

>>6922166
am I supposed to know what color banding is?

>>6922030
>people still buy prebuilts?
again , low power consumption and space concerns
since they only use like 15-80w in a realistic working scenario
and they're cheaper to buy used than to actually just build your own pc with an iGPU

>>6922101
you got a point on this one , I guess i just got swept into the "upgrade now" mentality of pc peoples.
I might just buy additional SSDs to expand storage instead

>>6922899
Banding is the visual smoothness in which colors/values transition from one to another. Higher bit display = smoother transitions. Here is an example: https://www.sony.com/image/df061f174ed4404d8044a39195c24c28?fmt=png-alpha&wid=600

>>6922917
I don't need 10 bit or an HDRI display but man they do look sleek , shit's sharper than my vision

>>6922917
did you just link to an image on an imageboard?

Not sure if this is a question for here or somewhere else, but best brush for procreate similar to g pen in csp? I tried to download 2 different "gpen for procreate" brushes and both are total shit

>>6924456
different brush engine, nothing will perform exactly the same.

ipad air or ipad pro?
just for a secondary drawing machine when im not at home since i always use my desktop

>>6925871
Preloved air

It's up!

https://www.xp-pen.com/store/buy/artist-22-plus.html

>>6926052
plz god let this be good for lineart...
if it is, this could literally be the midrange wacom killer.

Huion Kamvas 13 and my weird journey
>shit lines on CSP
>shit lines on Krita
>shit lines on Photoshop
>shit on any other drawing program, free or payable (the ones i had access to at least)
>"fuck it im giving up"
>sighs and suddenly I remember SAI exists
>whatevs
>downloading 1.2.5 version which is from 2016 deviantart link
>it works perfectly fine, no weird pen ending strokes, no shabby lines, no issues with pressure or pen keys
? i guess the simplest programs work the best
the only issue is with the press keys not workings, mainly undo and redo, but i'll take this, at least the programs works without much issues

>>6926052
Fucking why
Screen protector and 1080p? I thought xp pen finally learned

>>6926052
is it basically just a rebranded kamvas 22 plus or are xppen that different vs huion?

does anyone remember a controversy surrounding one tablet showcase/premiere
there was an upcoming new tablet version (i cant tell if it was xp pen or huion or something along those ones) but i remember that the art that was drawn on the tablet as a reference, was made in wacom
i vividly remember that, not really a huge issue but it was funny as fuck, i think even the author of the art said it was made with wacom xD it was hella long time ago so i dont exactly remember

>>6926208
I don't know if that happened, but I remember the same drama about a csp cover art made in photoshop. might've been that.

>>6926211
ohh yeah maybe i've mixed it up with the programs perhaps, that could be it, or maybe they are two different dramas, nontheless stil funny as fuck

>>6926201
no, the 22 plus has etched glass. It's more similar to the normal kamvas 22

Bros, any recommendation on ergo arms? I just installed a new one but it's too short and I came to realize that it's min height might still be to high, which means I need a model where the first arm isn't sloped upwards and can be lowered.
Ergotron seems to fit the bill, albeit quite expensive. I hear they are quite good quality.
Then, I saw one by Amazon Basics which fits the same criteria.
Last problem is the total arm length.
Due to my desk being so wide, 60ish cm in length isn't quite enough to get the tablet as close as I would like.
However, I can't seem to find any arms that are longer or have a triple joint. Any recs?
>Criteria: total length > 70cm
>Ideally can be lowered slightly under desk level
Pic shows top left what I'm stuck with, amazon arm on the top right and Ergotron on the bottom.

>>6926179
1080p isnt so bad desu
but im a bit biased since im just a silly little draftsman that mainly uses lines and tone for art

but yes the anti glare matte film fucks up your display , its like it has tiny little rainbows all over it

>>6926359
I have those on the wacom 16hd, they don't have etched glass and the screen protector gets micro scratches no matter how much you take care of it/change nibs...

>>6926381
because screen protectors are made of soft plastic. there's literally nothing you can do to prevent them from scratching over time. there's a reason every high end tablet uses etched glass now. I'm hoping xp pen also drops a 22 pro with etched glass and 1600p like their 16 pro.

Any good budget display tablets going on an early black friday deal yet?

>>6927140
Huion and xp pen ate basically perpetually on sale, and black Friday has gotten yo be completely meaningless.

>>6926401
true, also, you can't use felt tips on it and those are fucking game changers if you wanna use your tablet without any type of textured screen protector.

Is there a recommended tablet size? I don't want to get something that ends up being too small/big

>>6927592
>Medium-Large pen tablets or 16-24" display tablets are considered the sweet spot by most artists.

>>6927620
Thanks :^)
should've scrolled up

>>6903006
Doesn't Krita have a similar feature to Lazy Nezumi/Yolo Mouse built in?

>>6928033
isn't lazy nezumi just stabilization?

Huion Kamvas Pro 16 good? What about the 2019 Pro 20?
What about the XP-PEN Artist 16 PRO(from 2021)?
It's Black Friday in Romania, and I do not want to get fucked by buying an old and shit chinkshit one, but I still wanna get something that is at least 16 inches. Had an intuous pro small before, and I wanna get something with a display.

>>6929129
what's your budget?
biggest downside to pro 16 and pro 20 are that they used the older pen.
biggest downside to the xp pen is the screen protector instead of etched glass like the huions you're looking at have.
If those 3 were my only options, it would probably be the pro 20.
How much is a kamvas 22 plus or artist pro 16 (2ng gen) there in comparison?

>>6929296
>kamvas 22 plus
Through hunting for information, I actually found out that this is, for some reason, cheaper than most other tablets in the only store in the country that sells it. Even older ones. Even smaller ones. Even worse ones. So I just ended up getting it. Which is pretty ironic since it wasn't on the original list lol.

I use an ipad 8. Am i lost?

>>6929364
Is the iPad 8 any good?

Thinking of getting my first tablet, not sure whether to get an iPad Pro 12.9 or a Wacom Cintiq 16 mostly to draw in paint clip studio.

Halp.

>>6929596
of the two, cintiq. no question. you really are getting awful value for your money though

>>6929634
Not sure which display tablet to get around 16"

>>6929648
cintiq pro 16, kamvas pro 16(2.5k), artist 16 pro gen 2
They'll all feel basically identical. I think the cintiq is 4k, the other two are 2.5k.

will buy a cintiq pro 27 on monthly installments via amazon soon, cant wait to get rid of all my drawing tech soon and just focus on one single behemoth 24/7
selling my portable tablets too and trading in some other things for a samsung ultra for super quick small sketching on a hurry

Just bought a 1TB M2 iPad pro. Already have a XP-pen 24 Pro though. Should I sell it? Will I ever need anything else besides the iPad?

>>6929935
How about use it for a while and decide for yourself? Personally I find ipads extremely lackluster for art compared to purpose built tablets

>>6929388
Yes

>>6929819
>on monthly installments
lmfao

>>6930401
yeah, we adults pay stuff monthly bc we don't like getting rid of our hard earned cash immediately, difficult concept huh?
it only takes 12 months to pay off with barely any interest while i keep earning my regular salary, truly an adult experience, i wonder if u understand

>>6930562
>us adults go into debt for toys
If by adult you mean financially irresponsible retard, sure.
My only debt is a mortgage.

>>6930567
>us adults go into debt for toys
a $3500 Wacom professional drawing tablet is a toy? first time i hear that, maybe im not in the tablet thread?
also what is "debt" to you? my concept is debt is something that's crippling you on the long term because it's literally impossible to pay it up upfront
for me, Amazon lets me pay off the Pro 27 over 12 months and i only end up paying $50 in excess at the end, i'd be a retard not to take the option instead of parting with $3500+taxes right now and fucking up my cash flow
if i ever find 0% intertest plans such as the ones that Samsung offers I WILL take them as well, because it's literally free money flexibility during my monthly expenses

>>6930575
>a $3500 Wacom professional drawing tablet is a toy?
Yes.
>what is "debt" to you?
Owing someone something. Are you trying to argue that financing something isn't the dictionary definition of debt? lol
>I'd be a retard not to take the option
You'd be a retard to spend $4000 on a tablet

>>6930562
This just sounds like you don't have the money for it

>>6930575
I'm not sure why you're getting so pressed at someone calling it a toy. Calling an expensive thing you buy for your hobby (or even your job) a toy is really normal. It's a luxury item that you don't actually need. A lot of studios and professionals aren't even getting wacom anymore because they're disgustingly overpriced, and the competition has caught up.
I don't know your background, but if you know anything about power tools, it's like someone buying a festool router for $1200 when a milwaukee will do the same thing for $300.

>>6931034
nta but you are wrong. A tablet is a tool, not a toy. It is necessary for a job (whether that job is hobbyist or professional). The anger comes from arrogant children like yourself calling useful things "toys". You're just trolling, and that other anon took the bait.

Not giving you another (You)

It's 2023 and you guys are still relying on Cintiqs?

>>6931837
I don't want to get into the brand fighting discourse but I know motherfuckers with the early cintiqs from 15-20 years ago, and they still work... like literally DVI cable cintiqs... say what you want about wacum, but them shits last an insane amount of time...

>>6931834
>A tablet is a tool, not a toy.
you're either like 12 and have never spoken to an adult before, or an extreme shutin that's never spoken to another human being to have never heard someone refer to getting something nice and calling it their new toy.
My boss just bought a $20,000 jointer and referred to it as his new toy when it was delivered.

>>6931834
You think everyone who owns a tablet is some professional? That's weird anon, to everyone that's just having fun drawing, these tablets are just shiny new toys.
>necessary
You don't need a tablet to draw.

Is there any negative side to using a kamvas 16 with a vga to hdmi converter?
I have a kamvas and a screen both of which use hdmi but only have one hdmi port(motherboard's aside) and want to be able to use both at once.

Has anyone here bought a custom screen protector from photodon or a similar website? would it be worth it to buy one of their 9H protectors or is it fine to buy a cheaper one that you replace more often?

>>6933137
why would I buy a screen protector?

>>6933152
The screen will get damaged after awhile and display tablets are a big investment. For something that you might be using for 5+ years taking care of it seems like a good idea, but I'm not sure too how common this is with most artists. I just feel better having some layer of protection than not.

bought a wacom one 13" for $400 AUD after using a samsung galaxy tab s6 lite, the pen pressure feels a bit inconsistent and i swear the screen is a little bit blurry but for that price its actually amazing

>>6933335
Tablets either already have a screen protector applied, or have etched glass that you want raw for the feel. Just take care of your shit

>>6932967
I dont know if VGA carries the tablet's signal. Tho I've tried HDMI to mini-DP with the included 3-in-1 cable on my XP-Pen and that worked.

Is there a way to make the cursor more visible? Sometimes i just lose track of it and it's really fucking annoying. With a pencil/pen whatever you see the object itself and where the tip is but in digital that's not the case especially if the brush size is small enough.

>>6934255
>but in digital that's not the case
sounds like you need to calibrate your shit, or stop using pen tablets and get a display instead

>>6934283
it's calibrated all right,don't have the money for display tablet but yes i wager that would help with this. Is this a common issue or am i a brainlet in some form?

>>6934286
>Is this a common issue
yes
pen tablets have a huge learning curve because they're not a natural way to draw at all. I almost gave up on digital art entirely because I fucking hated my intuos 3/4. It wasn't until I got an ipad that I found it enjoyable and not just frustrating.

>>6926281
Ergo arms are always gonna be tricky since they're designed, well, for monitors first. I have a set of Huanuo arms for my primary and tablet, and with my Wacom 22 inch affixed, I can have it tilted 45 degrees and it hovers a few inches above the desk.
What's your desk setup like? Do you have a keyboard tray, and how high is your chair's piston set? Rather than lowering height of your tablet, you might be able to gain height instead.

>>6934336
as am ergo arm owner, I think just putting your tablet on a stand on top of a raised platform is a much better solution than buying an arm personally
My arm is pretty okay, but it's not as stable

I solved it now, more or less, with the Amazon Basics arm. I'll still give info in case someone stumbles across this in the future.
>>6934336
>What's your desk setup like? Do you have a keyboard tray, and how high is your chair's piston set? Rather than lowering height of your tablet, you might be able to gain height instead.
Pretty wide and long desk. I think around 140 cm in length, 80 cm in depth (that's why I wanted an arm that is ideally >70cm so I can mount it at the back of the desk and draw it as close to my body as necessary).
No tray. My chair is as low as it goes and still my desk is a few cm higher than I would love to have it at most times.
>>6934915
>as am ergo arm owner, I think just putting your tablet on a stand on top of a raised platform is a much better solution than buying an arm personally
Yeah that would have been the less head-achy solution but I wanted something that I can quickly push in and out of the way. It's the same with the included adjustable stands that all 20 inch + tablets come with. They're nice but also very bulky and you have to heave them in and out of position all the time. And more often than not you'll lose access to your keyboard, unless you drag it in front of the tablet. My KB is heavy and full sized, so having the tablet float in the air is another way to bypass this issue.

After lots of consideration I finally found something to hold the 15.6 Artist Pro comfortably. It barely fits the bill but it'll get the job done for now. As for the Amazon arm, I wasn't entirely sure if you could lower the first arm on the pole, so I sent a "ask other customers" meme and got 10 e-mail replies within an hour, that was nice.
The only major con with the Amazon device is that its forward tilt is limited, so coupled with the already tilted tablet holder, I can't quite achieve an upright 90° angle on it, which is fine since that's not really what I was shooting for anyway.

Gonna attach two pics, first shows a sample drawing position.

>>6935314
Second pic shows the lowest possible setting, which allows me to lean back in my chair and to drag the tablet onto my lower gut for peak comfy posture.

Can't find links on amazon.com, so posting the German equivalent.

The tablet holder: https://www.amazon.de/dp/B0BV2BLZ3R/

Since the company and its product is probably going to vanish in due time, I'll post its description as well:
>WORLDLIFT Notebook/Laptop/Tablet Mount VESA Standard Adapter 100 x 100 mm for Laptops from 11-17 Inch Maximum Load 4 kg

Arm: https://www.amazon.de/dp/B00MIBN16O/

>Amazon Basics, 1 Monitor Support Arm with Adjustable Height 360 Degree Rotation Adjustable Screen Tilt and Cable Organiser Steel

bros I'm feeling weak. I need the strength to not consume. good thing the new cintiqs are not like 700 cheaper. my pen tablet is good enough... I just need to grind more. stay strong out there

>>6935372
don't do it unless the tablet you have now is super shit. I've almost bought a kamvas 24 4k on several occasions but know it won't do literally anything that my current tablet does so there's no reason to.

>>6898017
I'm going to try to get a display tablet during black Friday. Which ones should I aim for? Don't want anything expensive, fine with something more on the budget side (<600)

>>6935638
I would say kamvas 22 plus/24 plus or xp pen artist 16 pro gen 2 are the best value tablets.

>>6935673

Noob first time buying/learning about display tablets here, what about Huion tablets? why are they not in the recommended list? I'm looking for a mid budget display tablets for my first one this black friday so it's either a huion or xp pen

>>6935673
Agreed. Make sure you know what you're getting into when ordering a new big monitor tablet though. The stand occupies quite a lot of space, and don't forget about the cable salad attached to the back of it. Have a plan or a clean dedicated work space if you go for it >>6935676 >>6935638

>>6936306
>why are they not in the recommended list?
Anon..
>>Pen tablets (non display)
>...
>Huion Inspiroy

>>Display tablets
>...
>Huion Kamvas

XP-Pen and Huion are very similar and only differ in very minor aspects, watch some videos on them to get an idea, also CTRL-F this thread, I think this is being brought up regularly. In general however, you won't make a bad decision with either one, they offer excellent value for their money.

>>6936320
the biggest difference between the two that I've seen is that xp pen still has screen protectors on most their models, while huion has had etched screens on everything plus/pro for the last like 5 years.
from personal experience, the contrast on the xp pen I tried was bad, but I don't
know if it's a prevalent problem on all their displays.

>>6936352
NTA but are etched screens a big deal? Seems like a screen protector should be good enough

>>6936363
not really. They're nice to have, but not a necessity.
They feel better to draw on and are more durable, but if you do manage to scratch your screen, you're fucked.

>>6936316
>he stand occupies quite a lot of space
what
what the hell stand are you using?

>>6936519

>>6936363
etched screens are a meme
if you scratch em what are you gonna do, replace the entire panel?
screen protectors are keyed

>>6936640
I've never scratched one before. Learn to take care of your shit.

>>6936641
make me troon

>>6936657
you're the only one that is affected by your inability to be a responsible person

>>6936320
>>6936352
so that's it? If I decide to go with huion I just need to pay extra for screen protectors? It's kinda hard to judge just based on review videos

>>6937094
it depends which tablet you get. all huion plus/pro models have etched glass. only a few xp pen do. I also like the huion stylus sightly more, and colors are better from my experience.
either brand will be perfectly fine, with the biggest factor on the quality of work you create being your skill.

>>6937094
Not sure how a screen protector will fare with etched glass, have 0 experience with it. I would assume however that you are negating its entire purpose with a screen foil -> you lose the nice paper-like texture while drawing.
And also consider that applying a large protector for 20+ inch screens can be a major pain in the ass (preventing air bubbles, dust motes, and such).

>>6937109
>also consider that applying a large protector for 20+ inch screens can be a major pain in the ass (preventing air bubbles, dust motes, and such).
honestly this is one of the big reasons I prefer etched glass so much. I hate applying screen protectors and know doing so on a full size monitor would be horrendous and never as good as factory.

>>6936352
>>6937097
I saw an online review that said huion has slower response rate, is that true?

>>6935673
xp pen just came out with another 22 inch tablet kek. guess i'll wait for reviews

Surface 3 user here. Is Sketchable Premium worth the 25 bucks or are there better and cheaper apps for drawing? As a beginner, I like the simple interface and how good my pen feels against the screen, compared to Krita (which doesn't feel made for Surface tablets), but paywalling essential features is just dirty.

>>6937328
Non-etched glass, 1080p. Nothing to be seen there. Either wait until they hopefully drop the “pro” variant of this or get something else.

>>6937356
Is the Kamvas 24 Plus etched glass?

>>6937357
Yes

>>6937356
>>6937110
is etched glass something that they list as a feature? tried looking for them in the product page but I don't see it listed

Im making a game with my brother and unfortunately we only have one pc, half of the time im sitting doing nother when i could be pumping assets
So i was thinking of buying drawing tablet but we dont have much money, and saw that some tablets require pc hookup since they arent standalone
what would be the cheapest option here
can you hook those tablets to a smartphone or should i just save for another pc

>>6937432
yes. it is a major selling point. it's almost the same leap as from non-laminated to laminated screens. if they don't mention it, just assume it doesn't have it unless other sources/reviews say otherwise.

So i've been trying to figure out if there is a problem with my ugee m708 V1 pen/tablet because when i test it in krita it doesn't show tilt yet the product supposedly has this function.
Newest driver doesn't recognize it but older driver works without a problem.Device shows up as Tablet 10x6 Media in device manager. Any other program i could use to test it more to troubleshoot this further?
Any idea what could be the problem?

>>6937506
You can get cheaper tablets to draw on - maybe older, refubrished ipads or like galaxy tab FE.
They have apps which you can use to draw and animate or whatever the fuck. If you need for 3D then get another PC.

>>6937506
>what would be the cheapest option here
>can you hook those tablets to a smartphone
I've never tried it, but you can hook up a lot of newer tablets to phones.
A 1st gen ipad pro wouldn't be a bad option either if you're trying to do this on the cheap. They can be had for under $200.

>>6937615
>want to get an etched glass tablet
>don't have enough faith in myself to take care of it because I'm a clumsy fuck

>>6937615
apparently only the kamvas 13 pro has etched glass, the regular one doesn't

worth it?

>>6939237
That I know of, only 1 or 2 people here have one. I got mine for $1150. It's leagues better than an iPad and feels identical to drawing on a desktop tablet, so if you either don't have a desktop tablet or need to do work away from your computer, it's a good choice. But at $1500+tax it's pretty spendy.

csp black friday please

>>6935372
yeah it might be over for me. the cintiq 24 pro is on sale due to black friday consumerism and is 800 off.

hold me bros

I'm trying to figure out what kind of pen tablet to buy
first time buyer, I 'need' it for a uni project (animation) in CS course, but I would also like to use it for work (presentations? convenient, quick visualizations of whatever I'm talking about at the moment), and I also enjoyed drawing in the past, had some fun with pen & paper
I was going to buy some chinesium huion or xppen, < 15 inch because I'm in travel constantly, I already carry two laptops in my backpack, the bigger one is 34.4 x 19.4 cm (13.54 x 7.59 in)
I'm also afraid of the material wear I've been reading on the internet
what do?
I was thinking of huion hs611 or huion h1161, or something like Deco Pro M

>>6940635
The fact it's $800 off and still severely overpriced is kinda hilarious
the money off is enough to buy a tablet that will do basically the same thing.

First time anon here is this issue a regular thing on tablet or just on kamvas pro 13? Is it usual that you trying to draw a straight line will have wobbles?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNBALukbWYs

>>6940953
Anon that video is 4 years old. It's been fixed for a very long time. The only tablets I've tried it's still a problem are ipads, and that's a problem with their pen tech. Easy workaround is upping stabilization though

>>6940967
because of further firmware update or new model version?

>>6898017
There's some sand stuck in my nib or something but my tab s8 was scratched heavily after just changing the screen protector. It's just a plastic film but a glass one I used before also got scratched, it just took longer. The scratches also get in the way of my lines, not just ugly. How do people deal with this shit?

>>6941318
>There's some sand stuck in my nib or something
By not having sand on their nibs

What ipad should I get if I don't want to spend upwards of 800/900+ and want to use the 2nd gen pencil?

I hear most reccomend the pro or air, 11" or 12", but what's the best gen when it comes to price and performance ratio? I would mostly want to use it for casual drawing when I'm not home (I use a XP-pen 16.5 normally) where I could then export files later to use on my windows PC if need be. I don't necessarily need it to be 12", 11" might be fine but some say bigger is better.
Also what retailers would /ic/ reccomend if not directly through apple?

>>6942650
For drawing, screen size will almost always be more important than performance so it's kind of a useless metric. And yes bigger IS better.

>>6942650
3rd gen 12.9 pro works fine. There hasn't been a significant difference in functionality since 2018 as far as drawing is concerned. Plus basically any accessory for a current gen ipad pro will still work with it since it has the same footprint.

>Working on huion device since years
Small cons:usb cables are shits, customer service is slow due to "video protocol"(proof) and time difference

>>6940967
fixed as in like the end of the video or it's even better now?

>>6942745
I just want to make sure it can use a lot of layers, correct me if I'm wrong but I've heard procreate limits layers based on ram available.
I have a pc tablet currently just want something on the go. If the 11" is way cheaper I don't think it would be too bad either for my use case.
>>6942788
3rd gen can use the pencil 2 right? Would there be any real reason to gun for a newer gen at all then?

>>6942931
I'm the anon with the scratched tab s8. In my experience it's pretty much required to constantly switch the ui on and off with a shortcut to draw comfortably on an 11" tablet. I imagine a 12" would be much more comfy so I will upgrade to the s10+ next year

>>6942931
I think procreate and most other apps limit layers based on canvas size but afaik CSP uses some caching system to get around having to really limit layer count even on a piddly 4 gigs of RAM.

>>6942931
3rd gen is the first gen to switch to the 2nd gen pencil, usb c, and reduced bezel size.

>>6943053
Iirc even on a 3rd gen pro, you can have like 24(?) layers with the highest resolution canvas.

>>6943053
After doing some reading it sounds like it's canvas size and ram for procreate. I definitely want to use that over CSP personally, I generally go with a 3000x3000 canvas to start with so maybe it would be worth it to seek out a gen that has more ram to work with?
>>6943110
I've been doing some looking for used and refurbished ones online, I've been seeing more 4th and 5th gens in good condition. I don't mind spending a bit more for a higher gen but the increase in price when it comes to storage really seems obnoxious. Guess that's just how apple shit is.

>>6940404
I've never not seen csp go on sale this time of year. I need a 2nd license so hoping too.

>>6943115
How high does the res max out at specifically?

>>6943117
For reference my shitty S7 FE with 4 gigs of RAM can handle 45 layers at 3000x3000 in Infinite Painter

>>6943120
I was wrong, I didn't know until I went to try it now that you can extend the canvas beyond their biggest preset sizes. The max canvas size is 8559x7757, in which you can only have 4 layers.
The biggest selectable size is 5344x4136, which gives you 20 layers (also notes that the color is rgb instead of srgb?)
Screen size (2048x2733) is what I always use gives you 91 layers.
>>6943117
At 3000x3000, you can have 55 layers on a 3rd gen ipad pro

also new thread
>>6943123
>>6943123
>>6943123

Would love to wait until we get to page 9 or 10 before making one, but a certain autistic individual makes that nearly impossible.

>>6898410
It depends:

On PC:
- Photoshop (even though not directly for drawing, it's the best for bitmap editing)
- Clip Studio Paint (specialized in illustration)
- Krita (similar to CSP, plus it's free, though a graphic tablet enhances its potential)
- Paint Tool Sai 1/2 (easy to use, lightweight compared to others, especially Sai 2 with more features to compensate for fewer tools initially)

On Mobile:
- Android (IbisPaint is the top, followed by Medibang, and then CSP if you have a license).
- iPhone (Procreate is the top, followed by Infinite Painter, HiPaint, and IbisPaint).

Despite the above, there are aspects that the top ones overlook, making other apps a recommended option (Sai 2's recovery is among the best compared to the top ones, creating brushes in Medibang is easy, Krita has addons at the level of premium tools, etc.).