/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

I kneel

>the criticism that you can't depict your artistic vision with AI art is a pathetic lie as proven by this new image
Is this strayan genuinely, I mean literally unintelligent? He's already confirmed he's not capable of realistically assessing his own skill level with trad media. But he seems even to lack a developed theory of mind, or any capacity to introspect.
This visual intestinal abortion sadly probably is approximate to his "artistic vision," but it looks like pure farty-sharty airbrush sloppa and is unusable to anyone who's ever demonstrated any real imagination - and I think he actually may not be able to perceive this. Probably he'd be much less angry and confrontational if he could grasp the difference between his psychology and an artist's.

>>6931341
I need sauce on this guy, if he's posting this stuff under his real name he must be a genuine lolcow rather than a troll

>>6931332
this can't be fucking real kek-

>>6931332
incredible. this doesn't look like trash at all - it has all the hallmarks of a good artwork.

shad's refined taste is evident in the depiction of a schoolgirl, with generously proportioned breasts, engaged in the act of decapitating a lizard amidst the evening glow of a basketball court. brave. stunning. a gem.

the draftsmanship is commendable, with shad skillfully incorporating a slightly horizontally stretched sword sourced from google images and employing a daring two-point perspective to create a sense of immersion. The girl is seamlessly integrated into the scene, with no scaling or foreshortening errors at all.

the anatomy is truly remarkable, with her legs flowing naturally into her pelvis and the sublime foreshortening below the knees showcasing shad's expertise and knowledge of the female body.

the complete absence of hard edges, except on the girl, indicates a deep understanding of artistic techniques that only the greats could master. and of course we can't forget the intense facial expression, filled to the brim with soul of all the artists the model scraped from. the way the skirt naturally flows and the cast shadow, or lack thereof, from the girl, add the perfect finishing touches to this exceptional piece. truly a work of art.

>>6931357
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7Aw_HUV57M

>>6931332
am I mistaking him for someone else or is that the fat manlet that also thinks he’s an expert swordsman or something?

>>6931370
You're not mistaken, it's the same guy.
His DA page: https://www.deviantart.com/shad-brooks

>>6931332
This has to be parody! the world would not give us such a gift! hahhahahahaha it's real.. shad... I'm lost for words. is this the biggest self own he's ever done? He certainly topped his previous.

>>6931367
>takes the opportunity to shit on his sister’s art
>takes an opportunity to state there are far better artists than his brother
>takes the opportunity to note his grandfather could do “simple sketches” and not much else
>says he’s at a professional level
>this is his art

>>6931357
jazza's brother

>>6931332
is this the birth of a brand new pasta?

>>6931381
>is this the birth of a brand new pasta?
certainly feels like it. I saved it to append to even more ridiculous images.. but I actually might not be able to, how do I top this?

>>6931332
AIpoos will never learn, I almost don’t want it to get banned so they can keep BTFOing themselves into oblivion

>>6931367
>professional? I'll let you be the judge
Oh I'm judging! hahahahaahaha

>>6931332
What is this guy's problem?

>>6931384
*this crop of the op misses the end.
It(clap) Was(clap) Not(clap) Easy(applause)

I always thought this guy was a gigantic faggot and I'm glad I can now be totally sure of it.

>>6931332
Why does he feel the need to write a fucking novel to justify his art?

>>6931332
It's genuinely impressive how oblivious he is. No matter what the computer spits out he'll just accept it as correct like that supergirl one he did with 2 suns. He's like a new breed of permabeg that's only possible with modern technology.

>>6931416
his art doesn't speak for itself. it never will at this rate.

>>6931332
>Take no effort, trash
>Put in effort, still trash
Holy shit my sides. AI is here to stay, but it's to assist people who actively already do those tasks like drawing, animation, programming, presentations, etc. A random wannabe who've never done any of those tasks wouldn't ever come close to people who already does it for a living. What are these faggots still coping on?

>>6931418
How does he react to people calling him trash?

>>6931379
The perfect role model for crabs

>>6931332
Ok guys, would you rather have Jazza's art style or Shad level proompt skills?

>>6931422
he’s a youtube eceleb, he probably lives in a bubble of sycophants and delusions

>>6931428
Can I still draw cute girls in Jazza style? what would that even look like?

>>6931428
I think jazzas only problem is lack of dedicated study and practice since he became successful on youtube. Like he obviously explores a lot for his videos and has definitely improved somewhat over the years, I think he could be legitimately good if he really put his mind to it.

>>6931367
He actually states that he dislikes the act of drawing, he only cares for the result. Contrary to that, however, he also considers himself to be the only artist in the family beside his brother (even though his other relatives sketch, draw, paint and seem to do so with genuine passion)

>>6931392
Explains why the proportions and anatomy are so whack. The AI overpaint makes it even worse. It's uncanny

>>6931418
He suffers from Donkey Kong

>>6931433
.mt fucking sides

>>6931341
I imagine he likes AI because he thinks everything he experiences is his creation/relates back to himself. Mess up his hair and see if he can recognize himself in the mirror.

why there is a parquet basketball court in that church?, lmao, this nigga has a bottomless copium tank

>>6931332
Daily reminder
https://youtu.be/n1VybvjzaK0?si=HGMdjmw_jhCSph1i

>>6931429
What a faggot.

>>6931444
Your average r*dditor

>>6931332
this is genuinely sad, I can't even laugh at him anymore

>>6931447
have you tried?

>>6931452
you're right, it's actually super easy, almost felt bad for him for a moment.

>>6931444
jesus that's fucking rough to watch

>>6931362
idk man it just looks rendered a bit weird to me idk where you got all'at

That guy's entire job is bitching about longswords on YouTube but he still draws people using them like some nerd who never held one in his life, what the fuck.

>>6931433

>>6931332
Holy shit what the fuck is Shad doing just straight up taking AI slop?? Don't he know that he can fucking generate a pic, photobash them and then FUCKING TRACE OVER IT OR HIRE SOMEONE ELSE WHO CAN DRAW TO FINISH THE DAMN WORK?! What the fuck? I thought he said he had an artist degree or something?

>>6931444
My god the inecurity. If he didn't land success with the medieval shit and gain an echochamber, 100% this would have made him into a lolcow. I like how Jazza gives him the point and wants to move on by the end but Shad's still livid malding inside. Either an insufferable faggot or someone with actual social issues. I'm leaning towards the latter because his medieval videos make him look fine for the most part. The moment someone mentions art he starts a whole orchestra that reeks of cope.

>>6931332
why did he make this his hill to die on?

>>6931493
and yet that individual reproduced...let that sink in

>>6931332
Shad is like some advanced 4D psi-op against AI bros. It's a marvel to watch.

>>6931332
How can one guy fit all the wojak in existence?

>>6931496
He obviously desperately wants to be an artist, in fact I saw an interview/discussion with him where he talks about how his original intention was always to create comics/animation etc, and his youtube was the starting out point.
I think he's just seething that he lacks talent visually, and can't let that go. He probably feels massively insecure because of Jazza too.

>>6931488
>he doesn’t know
that probably took him 20 hours or something, somebody post the process video

>>6931416
He should just stick to writing novels and doing youtube vidyas about medieval stuff honestly.

>>6931388
Tbh, I feel like AIfags who genuinely believe that AI is the silver bullet that could finally allow them to draw, never really wanted or enjoyed the process of art creation in the first place. Though they sure do want the recognition of being an artist.

>>6931506
Had he started practicing back when he started coping with AI shit, he would be considerably better at art by now.

Dude spends two years defending AI shit, when drawing for four years makes you pretty decent already.

It's mind-blowing.

>>6931444
They're brothers? I'm a newfag and I kek'd.

>>6931520
He doesn't even need to do that. He's written a book! He could simply hire an artist to draw his comic based on his designs (though given how he views AI art, perhaps that would cause problems with crediting the artist, he'd probably just see them as a tool).

>>6931332
>>6931392
Man if such a garbage drawing I did ended up getting more than a million views on Twitter I would unironically kill myself fuck that's embarrassing

>>6931332
My sides

>>6931557
it’s ok because it’s not a drawing

>>6931332
Just draw ya goddamned AIfaggots.

>>6931559
I meant his initial drawing

>>6931332
Shad what the fuck is this

>>6931332
What's the story? Did this guy gotten himself with yet another AI art controversy? Noticed a bunch of videos from other youtubers talking about his AI stuff from within the past month.

>>6931332
Still better than 99.9% of /ic/
Seethe and cope AI haters.

>>6931596
You're truly unbeatable when you've got people like shad on your side sir!

>>6931596
Shad, what the fuck did you just let out for the world to see?

>>6931596
better in what way? this image is absolutely horrible. you thinking rendering is a redeeming feature? hahaha

>>6931332
Does anyone know what Penders thinks of AI? he blocked me on twitter for calling him a pedo

>>6931587
>>6931579
He went on in support of the AI art crusade. But like most pajeets, they think that using the AI image generators with its default settings and tinkering them for hours to nudge it into the right image they had in their minds is a skill. Of course they'd think it's the result of their own ""effort"".

But with OP's pic, now they could see what their actual skills truly are if they remove all of the training data from the AI. Composition? Gesture? Perspective? Line of action? Color theory? Anatomy? All thrown out the window.

OP's pic has shit composition. Because of course it is, he has no idea what composition is. He thinks he knew it from generating nice looking AI pics, but the composition was from the training data, not him.

OP's pic has shit anatomy. Because of course, his anatomical skills are terrible in the first place. He uses inpainting instead of relying the AI's trained data on millions of other good artist's anatomy.

OP's pic has shit perspective as seen with the background, sword, the lizard. Because of course it is, since he knows jack about perspective to construct the convincing scene he has in his mind.

OP's pic has unconvincing gestures. Because of course it is. If he knew gesture his original art wouldn't look like a mess and his inpainted AI generated image wouldn't look like a woman having her legs pulled apart by invisible Titan.

Even the coloring is such a mess due to the ""artist"" simply mix-matching AI generated parts into one canvas coming from completely different sources that doesn't mash well together.

He thinks he is the artist, because the Supergirl pic the AI spat out looks nice at first glance, and looks "nicer" 6 months later, when in reality it's really just asking the AI to spurt out an image taken out of its training data that a monkey could do. He is just a classic case of techbros suffering from dunning-kruger effect.

>>6931501
A true patriot

>>6931341
>Is this strayan genuinely, I mean literally unintelligent
Apparently people who actually know about medieval swords and shit say he's full of shit about that too so yeah, he's basically a useless retard, like all AI niggers

holy shit man

>>6931444

sibling rivalry on full display

>>6931332
>shadiversity

>>6931646
>behold, art!

I can't see eye to eye with you people anymore, you're all just dumb spiteful reactionaries.
Most of you draw at the level of the OP without AI, and have no interest in learning about new tools and technologies unlike the "mangaka" that you fetishize.

>>6931657
Hi shad. The thing is you don't have to be good at art to laugh at a deluded and sad person like you.

Based shad making retards mad as fuck all the while milking them for social media engagement.

>>6931646
>shadiversity
shadynasty

>>6931665
Oh wow baseless insults and namecalling because you get off on arguing online, exactly what I was expecting.

>you awe deluded and sadd and loser type person!!1! bad!! haha
damn man great post really high iq

>>6931657
Hire an artist to do your line work next time.

>>6931657
>no interest in learning about new tools and technologies
>that do all the work for you and give you some slop you then have to fix and probably throw away because the rng-roll was shit to begin with
Shut it up, you poo blasted AI-bed

Is shad the first AI-related lolcow?

>>6931697
yeah man great point, refusing to steelman a position and then attacking it in bad faith really is the best way to extract value from an idea.
Get this man a Harvard scholarship

>>6931701
>Everyone I dislike is a lolcow
Give it a rest kid.

>>6931657
Not really, I see the use of AI for quick reference or to jog your brain for ideas (not any different than going on booru sites), or if you really want to trace over some shit like what photobashers.
My artwork still looks bears the artstyle that made it distinctily mine. OP's pic looks nothing like what Shad could draw, and the resulting final pieceare just amalgamation of elements from completely different source mashed together. You might as well just photoshop at that point.

In the end, AI is only useful for people who already know what they're doing. Wannabes who dont want to put in the work and thought taking this shortcut as a crutch wouldn't get anywhere. Jfc, just draw Shad.

>>6931706
>dislike
come on now. I love the little bugger, he brings much entertainment.

>>6931706
Hey I like his castle and medieval stuffs. They're entertaining and informative. His AI art stuff? That's a lolcow.

>>6931707
>In the end, AI is only useful for people who already know what they're doing.

That's my point, it's the beginner artists who draw at the level of OP that don't see any use for it and think that using AI means "generate a prompt and call it a finished piece".
I don't think that OP's art is particularly impressive but the way that he's using AI deliberately and pointedly is smart and practical. More people here are interested in owning someone from a culture war perspective than actually learning anything.

>>6931716
>His AI art stuff? That's a lolcow.
Not really. He got tons of support on social media.
Lolcow shit is ridiculed by the majority.

>>6931704
>implying
>"waaah just learn new tech that does the job for you and it's pointless, you fucking luddite"
Epic troll, almost didn't notice you were tripfag

>>6931706
Hello shad

>>6931721
>Lolcow shit is ridiculed by the majority.
Wow, you are so right and valid. Please do tell us more.
You are so wise. no joke.

>>6931723
post your non-AI work.
calling me a tripfag for no reason and then avatarfagging is in line with the critical thinking skills ive expected so far

>>6931717
>spending more time than it would take to produce an actual image editing slop that ends up looking like any other slop is smart and practical
it would LITERALLY be more smart and practical to just scribble some shit for controlnet, hit generate a couple of times and call it day, the fat retard is wasting time and effort achieving nothing out of sheer insecurity and desperate need to feel like he’s taking active part in the creative process

>>6931728
>wow post your non-ai-work
>wow such bad faith arguments you're so low iq
>no don't call me tripfag
exactly the same memetics as tripfag

epic troll anon

>>6931721
>He got tons of support on social media.
so do trannies

>>6931729
For his skill level, yes, it's more time efficient and practical. He is taking part in the creative process, moreso than most people here.

slop slop slop fat retard faggot nigger goslop kike AIslop insecure desperate loser etc etc etc I get it you get hard from being aggressive online

>>6931731
do you even draw or just post like that all day

Wonder when /ic/ will get over the AI shit and finally accept it. 5-10 years?

>>6931717
I mean beginner artists also traces 3D posing app and then wonders why their artwork looks... wrong. This is pretty much par for the course for him lol.

Also I'm generally not a fan of "just let the AI do the things you have no understanding of" approach he's taking. It's easy to overlook elements you're not familiar of especially if he took 20 fucking hours to compose that AI shot. Most artists already gets tunnel vision within an hour or so.

>>6931332
Thank God he's not my brother.

>>6931738
Even if you use AI you have to be prepared to get criticized just like actual art does

>>6931729
kek. true lmao. I've been thinking to see if SD and controlnet would be worthwhile experimenting to see if it could do something like pose adjustment on my own artwork, just to see if it doesnt turn them into jumbled up garbled mess.

>>6931736
Both
>pyw
Well, you know what you have to do first, newfag

Or wait.... are you going to epic troll me again and when i post work you will put in the photoshop machine so i will cope and seethe and you will feel heckin epic and post ai slop claiming it to be your work and then i'll be double epic trolled and if i post my work you going to call it beg so that i will seethe and i'll be triple epic trolled?
Oh no please do not do that
i am literally shaking right now

>>6931734
Nigga he spent 20 hours on that slop! He better off hiring someone else and let them do the drawing for him!

>>6931739
Okay, he's clearly not an experience artist. We've established this. I don't really care about his art. I think it's an interesting demonstration of targeted AI and multiple development passes and a good example and investigation of applied emergent technologies.
I'd be glad to ditch a lot of time rendering bullshit that I can already do by hand if it comes out how I want it to.

>>6931734
you’re actually retarded lmao

>>6931743
>you have to be prepared to get criticized just like actual art does
What if AI algorithms eventually got universal appeal down to perfection?

>>6931754
what if magic fairies take us to the nazi moon base for a cup of tea?

>>6931754
then why come to a critique board?

>>6931754
>universal appeal
uhuhghehehehehehehe

>>6931738
>Wonder when /ic/ will get over the AI shit and finally accept it. 5-10 years?
nah. the zeitgeist is moving against the "tech=progress" narrative. Not just for artists but society in general.
Not that people will go full-Kaczynski, but the realization is that post-2010 tech is mostly shit for humanity.

>>6931754
>universal appeal
You fucking soulless buglings are so fucking obnoxious fuck off

>>6931754
No Patrick AI wont get you to do something just by pressing a button. Eventually you'll still have to get off of your couch and unfuck what AI did yourself, with your own hands.

>>6931754
>universal appeal
so you're the guy without earbuds who actually likes the 'music' in the gym

>>6931748
i felt embarrassed reading all of that, your turn.

>>6931777
holy shit, when you ask the wrong anon pyw

>>6931433
Underrated

>>6931657
good little piggy, swim in the AI slop puddle now.

>>6931657
Learning what exactly?

>>6931777
More than half of these can already easily be done by just prompting.

>>6931657
You are being spiteful and reactionary to our spiteful reactions to shads spiteful AI championing. it's spite all the way down.

>>6931777
you should use AI to bring these up to pro level like shads pic.

>>6931793
But he didn't prompt so it already has infinitely more worth

>>6931800
>But he didn't prompt so it already has infinitely more worth
Not to the average art consumer.

>>6931793
Any monkey with a keyboard can proompt anon. So does you and him. Except if you tried to actively participate in the art creation, you'll probably ended up with >>6931392

I liked Shad more when he was 'tisming on swords and stuff

>>6931793
>More than half of these can already easily be done by just prompting.
naw. You can tell when an image is built up by drawing, the craft is there. It's like looking at an Arts and Crafts style home vs. a fucking McMansion.

>>6931802
Nope, even the cheapiefags at Fiverr won't pay for an AI generated images.

>>6931800
infinity times zero is zero

>>6931813
https://www.patreon.com/artkoikoi
cope

>>6931813
>Nope, even the cheapiefags at Fiverr won't pay for an AI generated images.
Meanwhile in reality
https://www.patreon.com/artkoikoi
https://www.patreon.com/axsens
https://www.patreon.com/Spairk1313
https://www.patreon.com/Kisou

Do I need to post more?

>>6931811
>You can tell when an image is built up by drawing, the craft is there
Yeah (You) can maybe but the average consumer can't or doesn't care.

>>6931821
average art consumers are coombrains? I don't think its the art they are consuming

>The resident /ic/ AIfag enters the thread
At this point I'm convinced that he's probably Shad you lots are arguing with. Or that wacumguzzler.

>>6931827
>NSFW art isn't art
Goalposts moved.

>>6931821
Wow, you showed if shad been prompting coom, he wouldn’t be getting this much flak, since that shit is ez mode and low hanging fruit.

>>6931829
I didn't say that, you piece of shit.

>>6931830
Shad is more of a religious person. That kind of thing won't fly under his brand. Except for that time where he does boob armor videos.

>>6931829
Porn is cinema now eh?

Here comes the brave AI defense knights, defending the honor of Emad-sama and Shad-sama

>>6931842
>Porn is cinema now eh?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adult_movie_theater

>>6931846
I'm gonna expect a few hours later there's gonna be 5 new AI threads on this board lmao.

>>6931840
a Christian making images with legs as lewd and porn rendered as OP image... what AI images has he made isn't he sharing? whats his LoRa and model?

>>6931848
>STOP TALKING ABOUT THE FUTURE OF DIGITAL ART ON THE ART BOARD!

Already pathetic enough the mods coddle you retards by deleting any mention of AI.

>>6931855
don't play dumb, you know you lot spam the hell out of this board with bait threads when you are on the back foot.

>>6931632
drop me some Redpill links on this nigga

>>6931855
The future of digital art is not actually doing any art, huh? Whoa.

You don't belong here. AI doesn't belong here. AI is what philistines THINK art is. Artists don't see it as a tool or "the future" like you. Actual artists see it as an easy means to plagiarize. No artist ever wanted AI. We've had more than enough tools for many years.

>>6931855
As any good pajeets should go. Into the containment thread.

>>6931855
Next you'll say that this infringes on your free speech and is literally le heckin 1984

>>6931867
AIfags belong to the same kind of people that Shad belongs to. They want the recognition but dont have a single shred of care into the craft, and even actively dislikes it. AI coulda be useful but the people who already know what they're doing are the only folks that'll benefit from it. OP's pic is proof enough of what you'll get with faggots that's just into the game for the status symbol.

>>6931625
>if they remove all of the training data from the AI
The AI has no more access to its training data after training is finished, so that's already done.

You need skills, serious artistic skills that take years to develop along with creativity and an eye for composition, to use the tech to its real potential. This has been obvious from the beginning, but everyone's been too busy running around like headless chickens to see it - probably for good reason. After all, suits don't care about, pff, fffArt and ruin everything through their cost-cutting obsession with the bottom line. The fact remains, though, that most normalniggers have NO TASTE, No EYE.
Turns out you kinda need that to not make shlock. Artist with AI mogs non-artist with AI 10/10 times. Of course, you're not competing with non-artists using AI, you're competing with one giga-artist using AI, but the fact remains! Let the channers generate their tentacled Peach inflation porn in Sakimichan style, and you focus on getting good, seriously good.

>>6931847
How come "Step sister gets railed by step bro when their parents are out of town" with 20 million views hasn't won an oscar yet?
Curious huh

>>6931917
The original post was about it making money.

>>6931924
What’s next? Selling drugs and feet pics are jobs?

>>6931910
>you're competing with one giga-artist using AI
who?

>>6931935
The art director, the designer. The (wo)man with the big dick. AI is going automate a lot of grunt work as it gets better. Stuff like background props and cheapo assets. I haven't seen anything to suggest it's remotely capable of displacing the brains and heart of an operation, only the hands and arms.

>>6931940
who specifically is one such giga-artist? name some names.

>>6931948
Nigga, this is speculative so there are none currently, but I already gave you the job titles, so just [insert] your preferred examples. Guys like Alberto Mielgo, Robert Valley, Masaaki Yuasa, Ami Thompson, and Heidi Smith are not threatened by AIslop. The threatened are the sweatshop workers, the assembly line grunts. The same people who've always been vulnerable and constantly laid off and between jobs.
I feel bad for them, but it's objectively not a brain drain, it's basically the manual labor of the art industry getting assfucked as usual.

>>6931332
Using AI to achieve a pathetic result. gzz

>>6931954
you are quite clueless to the industry

What do you type to get this image I wonder. It’s so fucking stupid. I’ve never used any of this. Does it feed an image out based on a prompt and then you give it follow up instructions?

>>6931332
do AI bros think that artists imagine an image fully in their mind, and then "print" it out with their hand? What is this shit about "clear vision of what I wanted to make"?

>>6931954
>but it's objectively not a brain drain
Yuasa was an inbetweener first.
In some sense the next yuasa may not eventuate... that's brain drain, no?

>>6931998
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdnAd6-vWns

>>6931777
>just use ai
>this is my work
>posts generic collage of random shit that somehow should prove something because muh folders
ok
>he felt embarassed reading that post
FUUCK
WE HAVE BEEN EPIC TROLLED ARTSISTERS
WE JUST CANT WIN

>ai creates something beautiful
perfect, this is my vision, I told you prompting takes skill

>ai creates garbage
well the technology is still new, it wasn't my vision, this is not a reflection of my skills

>>6931997
Oh, are you one of those directors/designers? Or closer to the guy making the stock assets of treasure chests and rocks in some kusoge? Enlighten me anon. What's happening?

>>6932000
>What is this shit about "clear vision of what I wanted to make"?
yeah wtf. there is no clear image, it comes as you create. unless I'm just drawing a face I've already drawn 100 times,but that could be a mix of muscle memory too.

>>6932010
feel free to sperg out all you want, the conversation is over and we both know it.

>>6932011
A hearty kek from me.

>>6932016
noooooo anon but i want to win
WTF
YOU EPIC TROLLED ME

(i am seething and coping btw)
(and sperging out meltdowning too)

>>6932007
That's a good point. I don't think AI is healthy for art so much as it is for naked productivity and as I said, soulless businessmen will use the tech for evil like they always do. But that's a tendency that was already there. We were fucked 10, 20 years ago. I seriously have no hope for capital-A Art as an "industry," so whatever. Ultimately can't see art dying from this, is what I was getting at, only a lot of jobs. Art will somehow thrive in whatever pockets it can.

>>6932008
why even bother with the drawing part

>>6931488
Apparently it was a drawing + AI + composting process.
If you read the post, it seems his primary concern is expressing just how dang hard and artistically valid the AIshit creation process is. It's less about creating anything that people want to actually look at, and more about him kicking and screaming and showboating until the world finally gives in and says to him "Yes, Shad, you are An Artist, An Artist who is technically superior to your professional artist brother, Jazza - no, An Artist who is technically superior to every other artist in your family. Congratulations, you have made it. You have won. Jazza had nothing on you."

>>6932000
They quite literally lack imagination. I've noticed a version of this with myself.
I envision certain subjects and concepts clearly, stuff that I have an affinity with - people and characters for instance - and other things not so clearly - cars and buildings, for example.
When I prompt a human centered composition, it's always way off, like really bad and different from what I was thinking and therefore not aligned with my "vision." But, a car or architectural prompt is much more likely to be aligned with my "vision"...because I could barely picture it anyway. It's inherently an improvement over almost nothing.
AIbros simply can't imagine ANYTHING, so they're always impressed by EVERYTHING.

>>6932023
Kek. So it's really just sibling rivalries lol.

>>6932011
I KEK

>download 3d models
>use a 3d printer
>"i am a sculptor"
this is the same thing

Everyone giving this nigger attention is a double nigger.
He doesn't make a living off art, he makes a living off engagement.

You are the problem as much as he is.

Kill all AIposters, both pro and against.
Total AI Death.

>>6932045
Sorry bro you're next on the chopping block now bud

>>6931617
He thinks it's okay as long as nobody uses it to draw Echidna OCs.

>>6932045
>he makes a living off engagement.
People will never realize this. They just have to touch the poop.

They think they can tear down or cancel this nigger but all they do is make him more money by engaging.

>>6931496
>>6931672
>>6932045
This is basically the most accurate take on what is happening here. If it wasn't getting so much engagement he wouldn't keep focusing on this subject matter.

>>6931512
The camps you see most vocal on social media and 4chen are those who desperately want to be accepted as valid artists, those who are seething about artists selling commissions (this is generally the thirdworlder support base, who see $50 for a fully rendered piece as a huge payday instead of borderline slavewage), those who think it's owning the libs and trannies, and those view it as a get rich quick scheme (the former NFTfag userbase). Even in AI image threads you'll regularly see posters start gloating about getting one over on artists, or see them leave their containment threads to post in original art threads, seemingly with the intent of provoking a negative reaction.

>>6932045
No one but aishitters are giving that triple nigger any attention and pretending to be mad at this literal who.
These ai threads are just the new asian-jeans-is-this-a-good-design-neuroplasticity threads made for shitposting and trolling.

I mean, who the fuck would be that desperate and delusional to actually believe that AI will be the magic ticket out of their artistic mediocrity?
lmao

>>6932060
Maybe not, but if you look at his unscripted interaction with Jazza, he absolutely has a massive inferiority complex when it comes to his relative lack of artistic abilities, so there's clearly a personal motivation to this beyond just money.

Why are ai shitters like this?

>>6932072
>the ai one looks better because le realistic rendering
Normies are the biggest gobblers of kitsch
their opinions dont matter

>>6931392
Holy shit, how can he be so ignorant? He refuses to acknowledge that even his shitty hand-drawn doodle shows more emotion/expression than the end product. You can see the determination and aggression in the character's face. The A.I "improvement" literally looks like she was caught mid-yawn, maybe "mildly annoyed" at best.

And the face was one of the parts he was most proud of.

>>6932076
>mid yawn
Either that or it looks like she's cumming.

>>6932072
Getting kinda sick of the "I'm a true artisté" virtue signaling, though. These faggots are so thirsty for virality. Imagine giving this d&d larp retard free fan art.

>>6932072
Holy fucking wrecked. Today, Anon was a cool guy.

>>6932078
>she's cumming.
given the images scraped for that model...

>>6932080
>These faggots are so thirsty for virality.
They should just draw NSFW

>>6932080
> I'm a true artisté" virtue signaling, though.
>”i’m a true woman”
Claiming something you actually are is virtue signaling now

>>6932072
i laugh. good one anon

>>6932088
You can be an artist, and just be that without expressing cringe herd identity in the most predictable, self serving fashion. It's virtue signaling. The desire not express value, but to be witnessed by expressing value by the peer group. 2 hours on this trash lol, come on

>>6932039
I dont think any 3D printing enthusiasts calls themselves a sculptor. They just say they like to 3d print stuff

>>6932097
> just be that without expressing cringe herd identity in the most predictable, self serving fashion. It's virtue signaling.
People who aren’t trans show their birth certificates and what not. It’s the fucking same, but with art.

>>6932076
>>6932078
>>6932080
>>6932083
>just do the thing
omg you guys stop being so obvious

>>6932105
>trans brainrot out of nowhere
Who the fuck shows their birth certificate for anything ever? If you're a man or woman, everyone just automatically treats you as such, even if you're ugly and unpopular. No one has EVER mistaken me for a woman, so I feel no need to engage in "us guys, amirite?" type shit in a big performative and public way

>>6932101
I think that's the point that anon was trying to make. In the same way a person that makes a 3d print has no real claim to creating the model because a machine did it for them an ai artist has no real claim to saying they created their images because a machine did it for them.

>>6932109
> Who the fuck shows their birth certificate for anything ever?
You be surprised, there are people who would show their furry coom drawings to their parents and be proud of it. That’s how things are, especially on the internet.

>>6931367
I've never seen someone try so insanely hard to convince people that they can draw through words.

>>6932088
You will NEVER be a true woman.

The funny thing is the AI could come up with something better by just using txt2img.

Shads edits and img2img use is WHY it looks like shit.

>>6932121
Text to image is too ambiguous on the question of human exertion. It lacks the surface-level appearance of significant human input. Any mong can type up a sentence in Bing Create, right, any dumb normal?
You understand this entire guy's psychology, his reason for needlessly convoluting the generative process, when you perceive his innate insecurity/need for validation. He does things in this bizarre way not because it's good, efficient, or actually in accord with his "vision", but because he MUST demonstrate quantifiable *human input*. He must show EFFART. He talks about it constantly, how many painstaking hours the work takes. Never about how good it is, just how hard he has to try. He constantly rails on "low effort" modern art like Mondrian, because it's evidently easy not because it's bad.
Art is DIFFICULT for him, this is the only terms he can think of art in, and the only terms by which it can have *value*. He has to convolute and complicate and endlessly elaborate or he can't even fool himself. It's one gigantic social game. What a torturous way to be.

I'm getting some serious Tigtone vibes from his "work"
This is fucking hilarious.
He has got to be one of the worst dunning kruger midwits out there, this is like a callback to the old 2006 era Deviantart, when this kind of absolutely deluded behavior was more of a standard than an exception.
This fucker should just put half of the energy he's spending looking for a shortcut, to just learning the actual fundamentals.
At least if he had a grasp of those, he could use AI far more efficiently.
I think the biggest issue is that he thinks his fundamentals are improving when he's playing with photoshop and editing the AI pictures, but they sure as fuck are not.

>>6932107
ok now this is epic

>>6931840
Someone should remind him that stealing is against his religion

>>6932137
It's an interesting mix of messages, because on the one hand he seems entirely convinced that he's attained the skill level of a pro artist, but the fact that he insists on running his drawing through AI and using THAT result for the final work is a tacit admission that he isn't satisfied with his drawing ability.
Somebody should ask him why he doesn't just use his original drawing instead of what the AI spits out.

>>6931697
>poo blasted AI-bed
My sides

>>6932150
>why he doesn't just use his original drawing instead of what the AI spits out.
Isn't that obvious? He wants the approval of others because the picture is rendered semi-realistically, something he can't even begin to fathom how to do.

Semi realistic render = good
This is how laymen see art

>>6932150
>he seems entirely convinced that he's attained the skill level of a pro artist
anon, he thought he was at a professional level with shit like this.

>>6932121
It's hard to prompt composition...

>>6931657
stop pretending like AI is a tool, it's not

>>6932072
>>6932166
Not proompt this

>>6932171
Now* fuck

>>6932171
now? I can't. Dalle tries to include everything in your prompt clearly. it's hard to get partial or obscured silhouettes of things in the foreground.

>>6931332
Holy fucking shit, what a fucking embarrassment

>>6932163
>>6932166
Funny that both of these, in their own ways, are better than the OP pic

kinda dope... Shad, why don't you just use text, this was my vision I swear...

>>6932187
wow anon
your so talented
blog and patreon link?

>>6932187
Someone should spam him with bing pictures such as this and brag about how it only took seconds and looks 1000x better than his

>>6932190
X @Synthologymaster1999
patreon.com/cyberpenismightier

>>6932187
>Missing the pigtails
>Missing the boots
>Missing the red stripe on skirt

heh promptlets...

>>6932202
I need more practice. I got her back leg right this time. progress!

>>6932210
>no dick
>no cum
not gonna prompt it

>>6932213
upskirt is tough... ngmi

>>6932219
At least it's better at faces than Shad

>>6932219
Where are the boots? They're essential to the shitty OC

>>6932219
I think I saw someone in a dall-e thread somewhere use "[character] kicks the camera" to get upskirt shots.

>>6932224
Who needs boots when you have 2 right arms?

>>6932219
>>6932229
>still no dick
>still no cum

LMAO

I loved seeing this on twitter.

Purest example of untrained artists having bad taste.
By practicing actual drawing you practice taste, you have better eyes.

That can't be replaced. I mean partially... if he left the entire drawing to the "ai" it would be a better outcome, because its composition training is better.

>>6932231
use your imagination

>>6932239
>your imagination
nigga wtf do i have the magic art program for

>>6932237
>By practicing actual drawing you practice taste
Debatable. People are always going to have weird personal preferences.

>>6932241
Good point. AI bros, our response?

God I hate how cucked and shitty this trash service is. I kept getting the unsafe content flag no matter how I changed the words, I don't know how you guys are getting actual "blood" in it. Wanted to a "cute" version of it, this is the only one that got through somehow. I mean I didn't even ask for anything violent or resembling blood and it still treats me like I have bad intentions.

>>6932255
man, if only there was a way where you couldn't be limited to what the ai allows you to do
maybe paying for premium will help

>>6932255
Use something like "red liquid". You can of course still get filtered, but it's erratic and you can sometimes slip through.
I find the censor is more lenient on violence than nudity and sexual stuff but there are workarounds for those too.

>>6932187
>>6932210
>>6932219
>>6932229
>>6932239
>>6932255
>>6932264
absolutely brutally MOGS everything /ic/ can shat out
not being ironic
last year even with super powerful GPUs you can't get these
now, just a Web browser. for EVERYONE.
art is free.
take your loomes vulpoo hustard gatekeeping crap back to fucking hell

>>6932255
I said the lizard was a statue with sauce hidden inside it.

>>6932273
I can paint like that, but idk why you would compare images like this with a learning forum. Compare it to finished work on art station.

>>6932273
Every time you dirty lot open your mouths it makes me wanna gatekeep even harder just out of spite lmao

>>6932161

>>6932273
>just a Web browser
and a cloud service slurping up your data and selling to god knows where

>>6932273
>absolute mog everything /ic/ shat out
>because it looks just like a real photograph wowzers!
>not being ironic
>stap gatekeeping
this is infinitely better than whatever ai does
you won't get it though
you gatekeep yourself

>>6932273

You can't and will never be able to enter the flowstate™ by prompting. You will never feel the enjoyment of leveling up and the beat down of getting stuck. Taking away your PC you will never and can never prompt on a piece of paper while waiting for your wife to give birth in the other room. You're forever bound by technocrats and their always on, always connected, paid services. You will never be an artist and you will always be at the gate screaming your head off wanting for artists to accept you as their own.

>>6932273
>this is unironically what /g/ thinks

>>6931853
Mormons are not Christians.

>>6932291
>You will never be an artist and you will always be at the gate screaming your head off wanting for artists to accept you as their own
Yeah all these ai sirs will accomplish is ruining the value of any artform that ai touches and make it so banana tapers are the only ones who are ever accepted into galleries

>>6932264
>I find the censor is more lenient on violence than nudity and sexual stuff
Confirming an American wrote it

>>6932303
>Mormons are not Christians.
Members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints unequivocally affirm themselves to be Christians. They worship God the Eternal Father in the name of Jesus Christ, And wear magic underpants.

>>6932261
I heard paying for X Blue (TM) will earn you the favor of the mystical AI Gods and increase your skills as a prompter. Just don't pick up a p**cil, that'll curse you.

God I love being a rational and logical data scientist instead of a dumb liberal

>>6932311
"They affirm themselves"

No other Christian church does.

>>6932314
haha yes
stupid gatekeeping luddites
imagine drawing like this when you could use AI to instantly make ultra epic images FROM YOUR MIND and wow your friends and family with it!

>>6932290
I thought this was one of these ironic posts where it was an ai generation anyway, but then I saw the dino dick.

>>6932255
Simply buy one of these. You can produce whatever you want forever, and have people pay you for the service while you're at it. You can also slurp up delicious data.

>>6932315
Yeah, cos they view them as a cult. Shad would consider himself christian, and if he believes in Jesus and accepted him into his heart, despite his church being wrong on a huge amount of stuff, he got the most important part right.

>>6932323
>300k for that
fucking gatekeeping rich snobs

>>6932326
Just steal it. It's fair use.

>>6932291
So incredibly based.

>>6932277
Same

>>6932134
You got no replies but I think you're right.

>>6932323
lmao now I know ai is the next crypto/nft grift niggas were selling mining machines like these for 10-25k during the hype.

>this whole thread
why are zoomers so afraid of AI?
is because you never learnt to use a computer?

>>6932353
DAMN IT GENERIC POSES ARE ALL I KNOW HOW TO DO!

>>6932353
Why are you so afraid of a pencil is the real question here

>>6932353
Why do loser middle aged millenials love ai so much? Is it because of all the time spent on reddit?

Based shad

>>6932353
kids nowadays are shit for brains who can't think by themselves and unironically support cancel culture and believe in every psyop in mainstream media
the cancelling of AI art is just an excuse for corporations and the state to create a monopoly on culture. zoomers are noisy useleful idiots, as usual

>>6932376
This guy is back again lmao

>>6932362
DURRRR my magic iphone and magic tablet are all I need. I found 4channel in the comment section of Pewdiepie.

>>6932376
>kids these days cant think for themselves
>is a proud AI hivemind drone
Classic

>>6932379
Seethe old man

>>6932353
I fucking love zoomers. AI made me realize most people my age are fucking retards. bunch of failed middle crisis retards

>>6932376
>believe in every psyop in mainstream media
said the AI cultist shitting on le zoom zooms

>>6932386
OH NO NO

>>6932323
>I thought this was one of these ironic posts where it was an ai generation anyway, but then I saw the dino dick.
That would be more like this.

>>6931506
he really count his blessings
he has a moderately successful youtube where he talks about swords, he's the envy of all nerds.
if he wanted to be a better artist maybe he should have used his youtube money for a mentorship
>>6931549
i think he wants to be the one to make it, you cna't hire an artist to make something for you and say you made it but if you're deluded enough you cna think that way if its ai

>>6931430
Itd look like this. Pretty sad actually

>>6932395
>you cna't hire an artist to make something for you and say you made it
Depends on how much you pay

>>6932353
>>6932376
/thread

>>6931428
jazza's art is bland at best but at least he can draw

>>6932390
Your youth has expired and you will never be an artist

>>6932376
These deep state artists are so mean. They're already known to be the ones with the most power and have the most lucrative jobs. Can't they just spare the humble people of the tech sector who are also the based guardians of western civilization?

>>6932400
>Depends on how much you pay
is exposure a payment method?

>>6931506
>He obviously desperately wants to be an artist, in fact I saw an interview/discussion with him where he talks about how his original intention was always to create comics/animation etc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7Aw_HUV57M
his dream was to be a comic book artist, but his art was turbodogshit and he stagnated for 15 years (literally, zero improvement over more than 15 years of drawing)

>>6932376
>waaah just let me be a pretend artist!

>>6932392
So is anybody going to run this through Ai or are you faggots going to continue to seethe and mald?

>>6931332
bump lmao

>>6932411
I'm not bored enough and it isn't complex enough idea you couldn't just prompt it

>>6932411
It is AI.

>>6932353
Some dumb people put all their self worth in practicing a simple craft, and now are panicking because machines are stealing their imaginary status.

>>6932406
What do you mean? I'm a zoomer. I'll be young and gay forever.

>>6931332
Who?

>>6932428
it shows. maybe if this board were 25+ it wouldn't be so shit

>>6932423
>simple craft
If it's so simple why are you not an expert at it yet? Why is shad in his 15 years of drawing not mogging literally everyone in his way already without AI? Why does this board even exist? And it's not the machine that's the problem. It's some of the retards using it.

>>6932353
Unironically, is because normal artists have lived throught many revolutions: digital art, photobashing, 3d modelling. They now understand that art is always changing.
Zoomies are overexcited for having their first rodeo

>>6932430
whatacutie

Does clip studio go down at random? Nope. Do you need to contact Celsys becase your program decides to not boot up one day? Nope.

>>6932463
sd is local on your computer and doesn't even need internet connection unlike your clip studio license

>>6932398
NTA, but that doesnt look so bad, she is cute

>>6932423
>>6932459
/thread

>>6932466
You need an internet connection to steal images. An artist can just look at life.

>>6932471
And your csp stops working the moment the power goes out. Nigger don't make me argue for ai now. It's already trained. It's a done product for consumption. It needs no more images unless you yourself want to steal some to train it further. There are so many better arguments you could have made yet you chose the most retarded ones.

>>6932161
Why every decade it's still another decade away
Been hearing this shit all my life
Like when are the ice caps melting too, faggots?

>>6932471
He's right SD literally doesn't look up anything from online.
It can run on a computer completely cut off from the internet.

>>6932459
This is still more depressing than those other events

>>6931332
Same energy

>>6932513
Some has surely run this through AI by now, right? I want to see it.

>>6931332
You know what's amazing about this is that AI does regularly produce beautiful images. In Shad's hands, however, it produces this. It's like fucking up a bag and boil recipe, I didn't realize a "high effort" AI piece could look so terrible. He should have put more trust in the machine and let it do more of the work.

>>6932509
It isn't at all the same. Comparing the evil bullshit AI companies pulled to the advent of digital painting is incredibly stupid.

>>6932459
(You)'re fucking stupid.

>>6932559
I can't wait for the lawsuits, even though the cat is out of the bag

>>6932179
DALLE fucking sucks. If you ever ask it to proompt something even close to OP's pic, it'll chicken out and then asks to replace the sword with a magic wand and the lizard with a pinata bursting with candies in some birthday party because it's scared of anything remotely violent. And I'm talking about ChatGPT Plus's DALLE, not the even more censored Bing Creates

>>6932273
anon... when are you gonna create 5 new AI threads?

>>6932398
It's actually not bad desu. At least at a first glance you could figure out it's (insert artist)'s drawings. Not everything has to be Sakimichan or Riot' s rendermonkey's artstyle

Mods deleted the "2016 anons, what do you think of the current state of /ic/?" thread but they aren't doing shit about this garbage fire of a thread. What the fuck, mods.

We have some faggots arguing about religion, some faggots arguing about stupid AI, probably shad himself coming in and posting fud, and another group of anons laughing about the dysfunctional brothers of Jazza and Shad.

>>6932504
No but those models you run offline are trained from scraped internet images you retard

>>6932923
Funnier is that this thread is barely 1 day old. /g/ tourist baits are the only thing moving on /ic/. Mods never gave a fuck

>>6932365
lol

>>6931867
>No artist ever wanted AI.

Oh boy, I sure do love spending ten hours shading a picture I stopped caring about twelve hours ago whilst the 3D artists, as soon as they've completed their model, have option of just calculating all of their lighting.
If only there were a tool that could do all the monkey work for me while I focus on creative decisions.
Yeah. Shad's a Dunning-Krueger blowhard but he's still going to be proven right. Within 5-10 years. By 2030, digital art without AI will feel like using MS Paint feels today.
Will you long for simpler times? Probably. But most of the people making money from art will be doing so with the assistance of AI.

>>6933151
>But most of the people making money from art will be doing so with the assistance of AI.
hopefully without stolen work to build the models

>>6933213
The only people who will be benefitted by any legislation to keep copyrighted works out of the models are the likes of Disney, Universal, Vivendi, etc?

But sure, go ahead help the corpos establish control over the tools so that only they have access to the most capable systems. Which will of course be trained on all of your work anyway, because what the fuck are you gonna do to them? Sue Disney? GOOD LUCK!

>>6933151
first more elaborated works took me 20+ hours and they were still pretty fucking shit
same work would take me less than 2 hours now and even come out better

If you don't enjoy the process of creation and see it as monkey work or at least learn to hone your craft, but just want easy finished work, you are not an artist, you are a consumer.
And this isn't meant to be provocative or to put you down but just a simple statement of facts.
Doing anything creative with that mindset, will only make you miserable.

>>6933219
fuck you. I want to use AI without stolen copyright shit used as the source. idgaf what disney is doing. it's not impossible, just expensive.

>>6933227
>hears the the truth
>knows I'm right
>'Fuck you!'

>>6933221
see pic related

Poor jazza. I had no idea he had to deal with an obnoxious brother

>>6932970
Whether the end user has internet connection on or not has no bearing on that... retard.

>>6931332
>Wants to do art but can't draw for shit
>Too lazy to actually sit down and git gud
>Pompous narcissistic prick who accepts no criticism
>Extremely jealous of his brother can draw
>Can't swallow his pride and actually ask him for lessons

DING DING DING
Shad is the quintessential AI bro.

>>6933265
fuck you was for straw-manning. kys now.

>>6931362
>chatgpt reviews for ai picture
Poetry

>>6933151
You're a beglet. Of course you dont enjoy spending 10 hours on a drawing. You're stuck with doing 5 things wrong before getting 1 thing right.

>>6931332
Wtf is this retard smokin, it's as easy as doing a Google search.

My God, he is Andrew Dobson of AI art. The looks, the ''art skil'' and the smugness.

>>6932107
Why her glans is so tiny?

>>6933997
I'd give Dobson more credit than any AIfag considering he actually draws.

>>6931367
20 seconds in and I instantly know the kind of person he is.
I don't know if the internet already gave a name for this kind of person. Like an evil version of the nostalgia critic

>>6932513
the worst part of this pic is that I can see that it took the artist days, maybe months to finish this

>>6931481
It’s a joke

>>6931657
We don’t want to be pixel janitors for an Ai, pajeet. Only bugman do that

>>6932060
Nah, he’s addicted to proompting and gets defensive

>>6931717
>>6931717
> the way that he's using AI deliberately and pointedly is smart and practical
>owning someone from a culture war perspective

I actually found Shad KEK. AI “art” is meaningless, sry

>>6931734
So Shad, when are you going to make real art?

>>6931743
You hide behind an AI, so no. It’s more like criticizing the AI than the proompter

>>6931738
when it means something, so never

>>6932273
you can tell how mediocre you are by how much you need your “tools”

>>6933265
Ai isn’t you bro, your drawing is