/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>6926862
Linking this again for anon. Go draw and show us that you drew anon

hello

>>6926885
Thank you anon! I'm gonna draw for at least 5 minutes now.

Posting the edited version again. I am still struggling with representing volumes correctly on a character. I also know there are issues in proportion that come from a lack of gesture and anatomy practice. Hoping someone can point out any other major problems to help me finally stop symbol drawing.

Does this look reflective? It kind of does and doesn't at same time for me.

>>6926917
michelin man effect. Also you seem waaay too precious with your stuff. Instead of reposting the same 10 min linwart thread in and thread out, make five. Start from scratch every time instead of mucking about with five versions. This behavior is due to using digital I guess. Just delete it and start over to progress

Was practicing figures, then decided to quickly paint it

>>6926928
Try making reflections harder and whiter

>>6926932
not him but what do you mean by this? redo the entire lines on top of the sketch?

>>6926899
I drew for 37 minutes, now I feel better, but also hate what I drew, I want to be able to simplyfy shapes quicker and more efficiently

>>6926880
Remember:
before criticising any of my work I post, I will require this information about you
1. your full name - name and surname
2. the address of your current residence
3. the address of your workplace
4. your marital status and the name of your spouse, if any
5. your annual wage, before and after tax
6. your license plate
7. your place of birth
8. the names of your parents
9. your credit card number and the expiration date
and finally you MUST post your work.
If but one of these points is not met, or, if I am unable to find a Wikipedia page about you, that matches the information you have given, that lists you as a prominent artist in any artistic field, all your critique directed towards me or my work is invalid and actually the opposite of what you say is true and my work is perfect and devoid of any mistakes.
Also, when you do criticise my work, you can not use any word included in the following list because your post will automatically get filtered by my automatic filtering system. You must treat me like a toddler when you criticise my work or I will cry.
https://rentry.org/za5t5

Let's keep it nice and civil in here, folks.

>>6926932
Thank you,
Will adjust

>>6926880
I just finished this
I am so happy it turned out great

>>6926944
Good job anon. It's okay if you don't like what you drew, just need to keep on drawing and studying.

>>6926943
nta but you learn more by not nursing small adjustments forever and moving on to new pieces. I think it's worth fixing pieces when things aren't working, but you should be getting started on new stuff anyway.

>sometimes just feel the form of a reference and get it great
>try and just do the construction for it without looking at it too much
>eat shit

Posting my cat from the cat thread

How to make lineart look SOUL like this?

>>6926917
her feet are fused into boots? whats happening there

>>6927017

>>6926957
Is this for someone?

>Get home at 2pm
>Think about drawing
>Play factorio for eleven hours instead
>Feel bad about not drawing
>Screw sleep to draw a little
>Feel horrible about the skill level you're at
>"That's it, i'm just going to give up once and for all and not even bother anymore"
>Repeat the next day
I'm fucking retarded and should kill myself.

>>6926880
file deleted, can someone reupload?

Also, /ic/, I'm a little disappointed, 21 replies in and no one commented this... how could you miss the chance to widen your unread artbook stash by russian dudes?

>>6927040
hey anon, I'm currently working and in grad school. I do play games, but recently I decided that I have to uninstall everything. It's crunch time right now, but I still want to draw. I had to cut out games to make that happen. Do you want to play games or do you want to get closer to making the art you want to make?

I usually let myself play on the weekends after 5, but right now it's zero. I'll reconsider again after this semester ends. Anon please - take it from me. I almost got divorced last year because I was procrastinating on work and school to cope with a bunch of shit. It's better now, but please anon. Learn from my pain. Games aren't conducive to following your goals. If you don't have self-control right now, cut it out completely. I don't care what 4chan or the rest of the internet tells you. If games are out of control, stop. It might be okay now, but one day this will be a life and death problem. Procrastination has been one of the greatest sources of pain in my life, anon.

You're going to draw today, even if it's just 5 minutes. And you're going to do it again tomorrow because we're making a promise with ourselves. You're going to keep your promises you stupid bitch. If not for yourself, keep it for me.

>>6927056
here

>>6927056
>>6927061
Ah I misunderstood. Sorry I didn't get the files, either.

>>6927061
>Do you want to play games or do you want to get closer to making the art you want to make
The second choice. I don't even enjoy the 90% of what i play its just busywork to burn time.
I'm a shut-in with no social or academic obligations so i could easily be doing 6h of art and 6h of games a day. Its not even either or i'm just a lazy slob and i could never get anything done, ever.
Anytime i sit down to it i get actively discouraged/filtered by the simplest of things.
Holding a pen and drawing also feels very unnatural for me but that's prolly because im not used to it.

>You're going to draw today, even if it's just 5 minutes.
I can start tomorrow because its 2AM and in need to get up in 6 hours. Phoneposting from the bed rn.
I'm down to do the five minutes a day thing but ive tried it before and it didnt work. I just do five minutes of "work", and fuck off.

I really do wanna get of the limbo and avtually start learning day by day but i don't think its possible for me.
I'm like neurophisiologically damaged and i can,'t do shit. I don't have enough willpower to overcome my dysgenic traits.

>>6927070
Go to bed, anon. You need to get healthy. Take care of yourself. Execute on your priorities. Even if you don't feel like 5 minutes will "work for you", the more important part is doing the things that you said you would do.

>>6927074
>Go to bed, anon. You need to get healthy. Take care of yourself. Execute on your priorities. Even if you don't feel like 5 minutes will "work for you", the more important part is doing the things that you said you would do
Ur this guy
Going to sleep rn i will do it tomorrow.

>>6927074
Thanks btw

Hello beg. Ugh.

>>6926984
this cat lost some of the smugness of the original
>>6926957
is this supposed to be a boy with completely flat chest? because thats how you drew it
>>6926928
reflected light on cars tends to go into pure white and or it almost perfectly works like a "mirror". just google shiny cars and adjust your car. the car itself looks cool
>>6926917
booba
>>6926891
hello

>>6927056
>>6927064
mediafire com/folder/7ezh1vxxtdyzk/Rus

>>6927081
No problem.

>>6927082
Ah, the smugness is lessened. I think it's the angle of the face being lower in my drawing.

>>6927083
Thanks. Here's a reupload to pixeldrain

pixeldrain com/l/BwGSJG8W

>>6927017
add a second texture to your brush and vary the strength of texture based on the speed \ basically the faster you draw the dryer it will look. This type of brush is often called tombow fudenosuke because they are based on this exactly model of calligraphy pen.

>>6921368
>>6921370
>>6921374
>>6921383
Sorry for not responding for a few days, but thank you very much.
Just a heads up: Some of the books in your MEGA (pic related) got taken down. You might want to encrypt them (and perhaps rename the archives to something unrecognizable) before uploading, to avoid automated takedowns.

>>6927094
Thanks anon. It happens. I have it all backed up to a personal NAS. I don't know if it's automated - only happens when it's shared. I always assume there's a risk when sharing it publicly, so anything that I share is backed up locally.

>>6927097
Don't know if true (and don't care enough to verify), but I've read multiple times that MEGA calculates checksums for all the files people upload to it, so if someone else gets caught sharing the same file you have in your account, yours is getting deleted too, even if it was never shared.
If that's the case, any reupload of a file you've pirated has a significant chance of getting removed by having been shared in a Google-indexed page or something that's easy to catch and DMCA.
I've been uploading TBs of copyrighter materials of all kinds on MEGA and other such services (all encrypted with random-looking names), and never got anything taken down, even the shared files, so it sounds believable to me.

How do I draw when I don't know what to draw, can't get myself motivated and never have enough energy and ADHD constantly pulling me away from it? Even when I'm on my medicine, I can't bring myself to focus.

>>6927108

>>6927108
kys or do some wim hof cycles

>>6927111
>wim hof cycles
Not him, but this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFg-IUrNR30

What is it supposed to do?

2 minute gestures are really hard

>>6927108
lol

>>6927113
adrenaline rush, i use it as a quick mindfulness session. do a 12 minute session lay on you back and breath

Thoughts on this gesture drawing practice? I know its not the best but im trying man. Its not the most fun but I know i gotta get this shit down before i go back into stylizing stuff because my style drawings are rather stiff

>>6927128
Looking decent anon. Better than what I can do right now >>6927122
Just maybe #3, her left leg and hip angle look like it's completely facing left in your drawing

>>6927128
reduce size of file, looks fine whats the goal make your figure less stiff? Marshall has a nice exercise for those poses draw what you think the figure is doing before and after said pose.

>>6927131
Just noticed that. Ill draw the pelvis then before i do the gestures around it. Thanks!

>>6927134
Didnt even realize the file was that big lol. Also yeah, mostly just get a better idea of gesture and fluidity to make my actual art pieces a bit more appealing instead of having stiff posing.

And that exercise sounds pretty good. Ill give it a try

is her left elbow fucked up?

how do I paint like this??

>>6927149
textures, halftones, dithering, layer blending modes, filters, study old pc98 games.

>>6927147
I dont believe its really the left elbow thats the issue, but its mostly the part where the arm and forearm meet

Started this master study today, the different angles on the wolves' heads are particularly tricky

>>6926880
rofl this is so kino

>>6927070
>Anytime i sit down to it i get actively discouraged/filtered by the simplest of things.
Had the same thing happening to me, both with drawing and with practicing piano. You need to invent a cope, or a lie or something that forces yourself to do it. Set a timer for 30 mins and act like if you don't draw for those 30 mins you'll idk delete half your porn folder every time, make up a voice in your head to keep track of what you're doing, fucking anything. Even asking a friend to pester you about it can work. You just gotta keep the desire to do it fresh in your head, don't grow jaded to it and start to fully ignore it. You also might have depression or adhd or some shit if you play games for 11 hours and you aren't even having fun, just doing it as busywork.

sleep over with the homies

>>6926984
:)

>>6927147
this is much better than the goggly eyes

>>6926880
I feel like the post lost a lot of its momentum once clothes/armor was added.

I'm going to sleep on this before continuing. any major fuck ups or things I should be mindful of?

He's meant to be stomping down. If I wasn't able to convey that.

Also, anyone know a good source of armor refs that aren't just guys standing around? Like, how is this chit meant to look when they lean, sit, bend, jump?

>>6927104
Huh, good to know. Anything I can read on how to encrypt? With random-looking file names, how do you keep track of everything?

>>6927194
Right foot perspective. It's too flat. Viewing angle is above the foot. Right arm holding shield is too short unless you really want him to be holding it out horizontally to his side like that. Give the fur on his shoulders more energy, give the clothes more energy/movement. I think the eyes/expression will help too

>>6927195
>Right foot perspective. It's too flat. Viewing angle is above the foot.
>arm holding shield is too short
>Give the fur on his shoulders more energy, give the clothes more energy/movement
>GIVE THE FUR ON HIS SHOULDERS MORE ENERGY

Thanks anon. I'll have another crack at it when I get up.

>>6927198
make his dick bigger too, a small bulge kills the figures dynamicism

In case any of you were worrying: I still haven’t drawn and I don’t plan to.

>>6926880
itried following the wise advices of some Anon, i made another girl
is the head too huge for a loli? i know they are supposed to have bigger heads since the bodies are smaller.
Is everything else looking fine?

f

>>6927194
extrnd left leg and put it further back and lower his body

I was in the thread yesterday asking about starting and people told me still life was the way to go. I drew a few things around the room and they look pretty bad, but I'm content with them. There's quite a few things I want to draw but I'd like to set a smaller goal first. How difficult would it be to make stuff of this quality? It's from RDR2, I really enjoyed the sketches in Arthur's journal. Thanks for the help so far

>>6927254
Not too hard anon. Arthur is beg. But it has a nice feel to it. Keep drawing consistently and you'll be able to make scenes like that. You should also practice some outdoor scenes as well.

>I will never make any progress
Its over.

Does struggling to draw something = leaving comfort zone?

>>6927269
Isn’t that three years?

>>6927269
But I will.

>>6927267
Thanks anon. How do I get over my bad art? I logically know it's gonna be bad and I don't mind for now, but I bet at some point I'm gonna get fed up with weird looking drawings. This can't be an uncommon thing.

doodles from this evening

>>6927274
Nta but my short term solution is to just focus on the next drawing. Who cares if the drawing you just made looks bad? Just make another.

Of course sometimes you get 10 or 20 or even 100 "bad" drawings in a row and then you really feel terrible, that I haven't solved.

Also focusing on how you're improving instead of how bad you are, or how consistent you're being, how much you've drawn or even if you've drawn at all that day. Just find any silver lining.

>>6927297
thank you anon, have a great night

>>6927274
You have a thousand bad drawings inside of you that you need to get out first. The good ones will come. Don't take it personally. Everyone goes through it.

>>6927311
got it, thanks anon

>>6927269
>pic of a human like you making progress
>uhh i will never improve

>>6927082
>is this supposed to be a boy with a completely flat chest?
Rakka of Haibane Renmei
Girl

>>6927286
the eyes look too off-center imo

>>6927360
yeah true, this look any better?

>anume

More arms

>>6927372
you better puff that ahoge back up and take off that swimsuit, buster

>>6927375
sorry. it is not because I know what I'm doing

Cute or 2008 DeviantArt SAI anime tutorial?
How do I make it less generic?

>>6927085
>Here's a reupload to pixeldrain
Thanks for that. I was quite interested in the book about composition.

>Draw what I want (for once)
>Completely irredeemable, no room for improvement
>Close photoshop out of embarrassment and self-hatred
>Exit without saving
>Quit drawing
>Come back a week later because I can't help myself.
>Draw some boxes again.
So, hows your improvement journey going?

>>6927480
solution is simple- with the Reilly method.

is there any guide on using the box method for drawing figures?
i just found out now the legs can start anywhere in the pelvis box. am i retarded? i thought they'd always go downwards

>>6927531
Use ovoid forms instead

>>6927545
fucking ovoids get off my board reeeee

>>6927546
No

>draw body
> ok
> draw head
>it’s fucked
Ok, it’s loomis time ig

Draw this thicc bitch in your style.

Horse

>>6927153
ok but how?

>>6927557
Cute

>>6927555
Extremely uncute. Disgusting even

>>6927557
saved

>>6927514
i know naught.

What’s the best way to learn to stop drawing? I went cold turkey because of you assholes. Would it have been better to ween off or supplement with some other hobby like sculpting?

>>6927514
Where are you learning Reilly method from? I know Watts but his videos are kinda long

>>6927579
from a book by faragasso

stuffs easy
Reilly is king.

I have no idea what I'm doing

>>6927622
youre gonna need the Reilly method

ok I'm adding Reilly to filter

out of the way loomer, Reilly method coming through

>>6927555
Holy shit. How do I find more of this? Googling "Sitement" doesn't result in anything relevant, even coupled with "model", "poses" or "reference"

>>6927560
replace some core shadow with halftones and textures

Is there some sort of construction for brainlets guide?

>>6927658
yes the Reilly method, read Faragasso's book on it

>>6927555
Mission Failed!

>>6927658
All construction is for brainlets, if you were a genius you could just draw it right the first time

>>6927555
not really feeling it this morning

Fixed up previous face study. (No ref, just going throught the hampton way of face landmark). Went more into hatching > ink blocking. Top row being the fix, bottom row being the previous attempt.

>>6927688
Previous piece, FULL

>>6927689
Fix piece FULL.

Also wanted to note, I added the line work only, on the 4 pic post, to more or less see, if I should go with the micron-like face contours. I think its nice how organic the newest one looks.

>>6927691
symmetry tool is killing you mang. its a trap until youre good enough to use it

>>6927691
Symmetry is cringe, anon. Also, crazy sanpaku eyes, looks weird.

>>6927691
crap

>>6927707
>>6927709
Ngl, it has been a while since I have used symmetry. Ironically, did it, so the facal landmarks didnt look out of proportion. I want to delve into asymmetry for future facal sheet pieces. Did that piece out of relearning face landmarks.

>>6927555

>>6927745
Ok I had to finish it off a bit better

How do I draw when I don't know what to draw, can't get myself motivated and never have enough energy and ADHD constantly pulling me away from it? Even when I'm on my medicine, I can't bring myself to focus.

Am I legitimately too retarded to be an artist?

Made Gumball version of >>140502362 drawing

>>6926880
what does it mean to feel the form? does Loomis teach it in a video lecture or book? please thank

>>6927764
nope, you need a dopamine detox, drawing doesnt generate much dopamine compared to social media & porn so you gotta downregulate your dopamine receptors
all you need to do is starve your brain of dopamine for a couple weeks and you'll be able to draw

>>6927622
Not wide enough.

wah

>>6927758
Now redo the drawing without shading come to the realisation and progress.

Made Gumball version of that drawing

>>>/co/140502362

>>6927786
In good faith, I cannot understand this post

>>6927691
>>6927684
>>6927636
>>6927622
>>6927621
>>6927586
>>6927557
>>6927514
>>6927082
>>6926944
Put a chastity cage on digital.

>>6927791
And that's why you're in /beg/

>>6927792
seething poorfag detected

>>6927792
grab a stick and shove it up YOUR ASS FAGGGGOOOT
get outta here

>>6927795
No I have a tablet but if you're prebeg you shouldn't use it.

me beg you fag

>>6927090
How do you do this in clip studio?

>>6927803
:(

>>6927794
Its not a koan anon, just esl shitposting

>>6927801
why

>>6927801
these drawings you quoted are not prebeg tho, they are beg

>>6927792
>he thinks my drawing was digital
Should I consider that a compliment or an insult?

>>6927869
you should consider that anon is a retarded fag

Reilly is king.

Small sketch from imagination. Need to work on the perspective and placement of assets in the frame but I like how it looks.

>>6927909
Not a particularly elegant sketch or that interesting, but I did this in about 20 minutes or so. Used to take me hours to do something like this so I consiider this a VERY good sign.

I do want to draw more realistic stuff considering the Burne Hogarth book I was studying, but it feels nice to be able to draw something quickly (even if it looks poor) as opposed to taking an hour to draw something that looks even worse than this.

I learned a lot about painting, shapes and values with this one.

haha, right

>>6926880
Looking for anatomy advice. How can I make sure the head is the right? size. I don't really have a good way understanding whether something looks right other than "guess and try to see if it looks okay later"

>>6927925
You need to learn how big certain parts are in relation to the head. For instance, if you're going for a tall beautiful character, it's usually 8 heads tall. From the chin to the bottom of the crotch it's 3 heads tall. From the bottom of the crotch to the bottom of the feet another 4.


Use this diagram to practice this.

>>6927942
>>6927925
This is kinda how it should look like.

First copy it, then try to do it from imagination a few times.

>>6927942
>>6927946
Thanks anons. I'll try drawing the "head grid" and see if it helps next time I draw heads.

>>6927128
Who is this?? How do I find moar pictures of her?

>>6927555

>>6927804
I don't know read brush engine documentation for CSP, or just search csp tombow fudenosuke brush

>>6927959
Sarah Dulce is her name if you wanna find more of her

>>6927959
she is ugly af what are you on about literal skin and bones no curves no tits ass and a ugly leftoid face and look

I'm super bored and have nothing to do but i'm still procastrinating.
Its like i have a firmware lock on my brain wha's going on

>>6927979
we are broken anon, we need to accept that we are low IQ subhumans and move on.

>>6927980
I can't

>>6927979
how about you draw a stormtrooper? the WWI ones not the star war ones

>>6927965
>right arm behind the head
cheater
>right breast lower than the left
should be the other way around
>narrow hips
they should be noticeably wider than her ribcage - on both sides

Was gonna pick up Figure Drawing For All It's Worth, but ended up just drawing these from imagination.

This is from Sam Yang, at first I thought it was AI art like unironically, fuck me kek

>>6927195
>Anything I can read on how to encrypt?
I just use 7zip since it's easy, multiplatform, lets me split the archive in smaller parts, and when the files inside allow it, can reduce the total filesize.
If it's an already compressed file like a video, I use the "Storage" compression setting, since I'm not going to make it much smaller. If it's something that can compress well (like uncompressed files with a lot of identical content, such as WAVs with a lot of silence) I set it to Ultra.
AES-256 with encrypted filenames, and everything else on default.

It's very strong encryption but not schizo-tier. I'm only uploading copyrighted material that I'm trying to keep from being deleted, so I'm not too worried about glowies or anything. If you are, get TrueCrypt/VeraCrypt (the second is a fork of the now-abandoned former, both audited and known to be secure), make a container of the size you want, use the AES-Twofish-Serpent nested algos + Whirlpool hashing. Obviously use a long unguessable password.
You can set it to make decoy containers so if you get tortured you give them the false password and it opens to show them the files you want them to see, but if you use the correct password it opens the hidden partition with your secret files. The original TC docs explain it pretty well but the site got taken down when the developer got arrested for being an international kingpin lol.
After you've put your files inside the container, you unmount it and put it in a 7z archive so you can split it into smaller parts for convenience.
For maximum paranoia you can put your TrueCrypt container inside a VeraCrypt container (each using different sets of nested algorithms), which gets archived with WinRAR (also uses strong cryptography), and lastly zipped and split with 7zip, with each part individually encrypted with a different password, and uploaded round-robin to different sites in different non-five-eyes countries (with redundancy of course).

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>>6927992
those noticeable brushtrokes are pure sexo

>>6927195
I also rename each part with a [01-09], [02-09], etc. so it's easier to keep track of things and makes it harder to extract files from (some sites like Google Drive and Gmail do that to scan your files, and some times don't let you upload if they can't open it lol).

I keep track of everything with a text file (CTRL+F to find stuff), in which each line looks like:
>grkrprsofooiparewhgowranhotomaitri = M021 = (Gregg Kreutz ) Problem Solving for Oil Painters - Recognizing What's Gone Wrong and How to Make it Right
>bedoketodrwiimtzzs = G008 = (Bert Dodson) Keys_to_Drawing_with_Imagination_2006
archive name = account it's on = original name
I typically use the first 2 letters of each word, with numbers replaced with the initial of their name (0123456789 = zottffssen), but if that results in something weird I change it. It doesn't reallt matter, it can be literally random, but this way it's easier to recognize things at a glance (mainly while I'm encrypting and uploading them) without having to use the index file.

When I need to do many files at the same time I use textmechanic.com (an old version I scraped before it started asking for money (sorry not sharing, too afraid of it containing info about me lol)) and Bulk Rename Utility.

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>>6927217
Gorgeous work anon, really like how you designed the hair.
You might want to push the hue more towards blue for the shadows, it will help sell them more.

>>6927978
Why would you publically admit you've never had a woman?

>>6927985
too late now.
Maybe tomorrow.

>>6928042
But then tomorrow will be today and the cycle will repeat. You gotta break it!

>>6928062
yeah but tomorrow.
Its friday then so i'll have plenty of free time to spare. Its also 11pm so way too late to draw anything.

>>6928065
>11pm way too late to draw anything
what?

>>6928068
You're engaging with a troll.

>>6928070
I'm not a troll i'm just a retard, sorry.
>>6928068
>what?
For me it is. I don't have the energy for it at 2PM so why would i have it at 11.

>>6928074
Draw a smiley face on a scrap of paper. Just a small doodle, anon.

>Have issue with faces
>Studies them and look at many faces of various real people.
>Finally realize how stupid we can look and how goofy the head is build on a lot of angles

I can see why some insist on doing le anime face.

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>>6928143
forgor

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>>6926880
Someone made a thread to draw this meme in my style, faggots didnt draw shit and jannies deleted the thread before I could finish it

Hey do you guys take self notes and self critique? I believe thinking like this will help my art quite a bit but i also want/need some others opinions on my notes.

Hello beg, i think this is waste of time. Loomis!

>>6928009
it is easier to simply upload encrypted 7z or rars with option enabled: encrypt file names
>>6927989
i wonder what is there to learn when your figures already look this good
>>6927988
the belly section looks weird, 1 booba being higher than the other is also disruptive
>>6927925
use reference and then use perspective or sighting techniques to ensure proportions are correct. Or learn anatomy basics like that chest is as tall as head
>>6927911
eyes are too high (should be in half)
>>6927790
nice + creative
>>6927666
i think you need keys to drawing. you should be able to finish the book in few weeks and it will do you well
>>6927557
that is some very deformed horsie but i will allow it
>>6927507
cute elf thot
>>6927400
>generic
I hate this silly idea that drawers can have "unique" art style. that is cope. Instead go invent your own universe, characters, narrative and make a comic, visual novel or games about them. that will give them the unique quality you seek. Anything else is COPE
>>6927286
cute thots
>>6927272
yes, struggle means you are not comfortable doing it
>>6927254
very easy, after few chapters of keys to drawing you should do such rough sketch almost effortlessly
>>6927210
get the loli book https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/49785005
>>6928168
my older pieces were full of notes. my newer ones have almost none since the art books wisdom is starting to repeat

>>6928168
I believe that kind of thing is only done to demonstrate yourself to others. how cylindres of the leg on the right are inverted

>>6928168
Do whatever the fuck you want who cares

>>6928177
>Hello beg, i think this is waste of time. Loomis!
This is probably one of the more useful sections for you to be studying from FWaP. Internalizing that your cartoon characters have an underlying structure allows you to give them a verisimilitude when they interact with the world and you need to understand what their non-exaggerated form is capable of before you exaggerate their motions.

>>6928177
>it is easier to simply upload encrypted 7z or rars with option enabled: encrypt file names
That's what I do, but if the filename of the archive reveals what's inside, if MEGA decides to start scanning filenames, you risk having your files taken down. With the unintelligible archive name you have that additional layer of protection.
The TrueCrypt stuff is generally superfluous and just for the extra paranoid.

>>6928133
I'll do it the first thing tomorrow. Dw

>>6928184
Understandable,

>>6928181
So not really helpful for improving anything? Also thanks ill fix the cylinders

>>6928177
>use reference and then use perspective or sighting techniques to ensure proportions are correct
Thanks! I'm already drawing from Morpho. I think I just need to learn perspective better.

>learn anatomy basics like that chest is as tall as head
Also thanks. While Morpho is helping, I don't feel like I'm really "learning" anatomy so much as practicing drawing.

>>6927778
Stop replying to the bait. It's the same post every time. I recommend updating your 4chanx filters with the most recent pasta.

>>6927946
Lol oh shit, that's my first attempt from when I started learning figure drawing with Brunet's class two years ago. Weird. Picrel is Brunet's guide from the video lesson,

>>6928002
>>6928009
Thanks for the write up anon. I'll need to do something eventually, but I don't have time to reorganize my 2tb mega right now. In the meantime I've redownloaded everything locally/NAS, and will encrypt anything that I share here. Pixeldrain has been nice to use for smaller files, don't need to worry about it as much. What a headache though. The books and other things were completely fine until I shared them recently.

>>6928142
>>6928143
>>6928144
Nice anon. This is nit picky, but your line weight being completely unvaried makes it look significantly worse.

>>6928168
I take notes and keep it all in one "Sketchbook - Notes" folder. Sometimes by subject. I was struggling with leg-hip attachment and made a folder for that. More for references in the future if I'm struggling with something again.

>>6927210
hi again, I think what I said about the curvature of the cheeks was wrong. the correct way would be it curving *below the level of the nose tip
I pulled the facial features down a bit, erased the lower eyelids (not necessary but if you want to keep them, be sure to draw the upper lids darker/bolder) and pulled the ear a bit closer to the middle of the head (the more lateral is the view of the head, the more the ear gets pushed to the middle of the head. you can also spin the ear a bit to make the jawline easier to draw
about the proportions, they're fine. in general, aim for 1.5-2 head sizes for the torso length (from chin to cunny). the head and hairline lines don't mean anything btw, I just used them as landmarks but forgot to make a new layer for it

>>6928254
>What a headache though
Indeed.
Good luck on your reorganization efforts and whatever else you have going on. Cheers.

Friendly reminder to grind your fundies.

https://www.deviantart.com/eizendraws/gallery

>>6928284
I can only assume that someone like them who has been drawing for 4+ years and is at that level is either extremely young and/or mentally challenged or disturbed

>>6928296
>extremely young
>Born 1999
Man....

>>6928256
I'd more than qualified to help you, but won't because your subject matter is repulsive.

>>6928168
Upload here and get shit on whatever you do.
We can critique your stuff anon, and maybe you will get something useful from time to time.
Self critique requires a critical eye which you often lack when you are absorbed with your piece, you can do several things, drop the thing and work on something else, you come back to it and notice wrong stuff quite easily.
You can also step back from the canvas or look at your work through a mirror the size difference helps notice anything out of place.
Last method you can take a small break, drink some coffee and return to your piece, it should once again help refresh your eye and make anything out of place jump out,
Now you might wonder how can you notice what is wrong and you should always keep in mind any art problem we have is either one of these parameters.
Edge.
Drawing/proportions.
Color. Hue saturation
Value.
You should reduce your piece to basic elements so not only can you spot in which dimension your mistake lies but you can also assess other people’s artworks and styles and see how they handle the same problems you face, learning from their choices

>>6928302
lolichads own this place

>>6928256
i will apply the fixes, thank you again Anon you are great!

>>6928313
>get shit on whatever you do.
if that's your art, I can understand why.
holy fuck I'm pissed that I was even subjected to seeing that shit.

>>6928313
Alright thank you, ill keep that in mind. I have noticed in the past that drawings look warped and stuff when i come back to them so ill do that more often. Also by edge, do you mean lineart or angles or..

>>6928335
us connoisseurs gotta help each other

>>6928259
Cheers anon. Nice to have a genuinely positive interaction on /ic/ when it happens.

>>6928313
Anon, to be fair you never listen to anyone's critique. People shit on you for not listening. What do you even want help on? What can others say that you would even consider? What do you even want?

>>6928396
He wants a r/art hugbox where everyone will praise him regardless of quality of his art.
Many such cases.

>>6927210
i think you should kill yourself pedo

>>6927061
NTA but I’m a complete beginner and I’ve lately been slacking off of a 6 figure job at 22 despite it being able to set me up for my future because I’m a retard. I’m done doing that. I spent way too much time just smoking weed and playing vidya but thankfully I’m still young and not completely socially clueless

>>6928414
save up, be smart. do your job and study art at the same time. I know it sounds like woo woo bullshit, but you need to keep doing things that you can be passionate about, like art, your own business, or whatever that is for you. A number of my friends are in software, moved out from defense industry into some start ups and are making 225k-250k. Money ultimately doesn't matter that much. Make enough to be stable and wise for the future, but build the things that you want to build.

>>6926880
Does it look like she's trying to take a shit or something?

I do not want it to look like she's trying to take a shit or something.

>>6928422
It.. kind of does, yes. Have you looked up refs for poses or is this just imagination?

>>6928422
to me it looks like she is playing golf

>>6928412
glad you liked the drawing anon

>>6928440
hang a rope, put your head through it and jump

A or B?
A is the drawn, B is transformed to add perspective

>>6928449
i like A more desu

>>6928422
I mean she’s throwin it back, but it looks fine. It looks like she’s leaning against a wall with her butt more than anything.

>>6928452
Yeah, B looks goofy, thanks for confirming

>>6928449

>>6928466
What about now?

>>6928177
>Hello beg, i think this is waste of time. Loomis!
are you finally realising that loomis is a hack

With pen pressure, is it best to just keep using the same pressure for a while until you just get a feel for it? or is there a way to go about learning this stuff?
>>6928449
I prefer B, but I can't put my finger on what it is.
>>6928473
Also looks good here.

Good brush for sketches on Krita? I use the sketch pencil and it looks like absolute shoite.
Something like pic related would be useful.

>>6928591
that's a standard hard round brush with opacity and pressure dumbass, every program has this as default

>>6928591
I like the default charcoal pencil brushes

First watercolor. Tried to loosely follow a tutorial, but I have no idea what I'm doing.

>>6928425
Pic was a rough ref for the pose. Should have followed it better. Paid more attention to it.

>>6928429
kek

>>6928453
Well hopefully it irons itself out as I go.

It's hard to get myself to sit down and do drawings longer than 10 minutes.

>>6928591
Pencil- 4_soft, I put that shit on everything .

Pls r8 and help

>>6928668
crap

Week 2 of Med's Map

>>6927555

>>6928658
Source?
Blog??

>>6928422
>>6928621
Mostly done.

I don't know how chesticles work.

How fucked does the face look? I've been told I have an issue with horseface a lot.

>>6927195
>>6927203
>>6927227
Hoping I've incorporated the suggestions correctly. Or that it at leasts looks better.

Hopefully get started on proper lines tomorrow.

>t

>>6928177
It's >>6927911
Duly noted. Will keep that in mind for my next character drawing.

>>6928629
Made a longer try in pencil. Didn't quite nail the ref, but at least the proportions are not entirely inhuman.

Tried to follow the instructions in Keys to Drawing for profile drawing, but I feel like this was harder than the front view and 3/4 drawing for me

>6928824
:)

cheering nya

>>6928199
are ya drawing son?

>>6928843
cheering you on as well

When doing a character that will be heavily clothed / armored, how much anatomical detail do you add during construction? Just leave it as basic shapes like ribcage, shoulders, cylinders for arms, etc? Or start creating the major muscle groups?

>>6928843
Her torso looks a good bit too long.

>>6928702
very int

>>6928868
not very. cant even copy right.

>>6928863
yeah i just picked pen and rushed without thinking.

>>6928876
i thought the idea is not to copy exactly?

yep I think i'm gonna make it

Aside from practicing line work as a /beg/, first video in the google doc(
Dynamic Sketching 1 With Peter Han),what should i do afterward that would incorporate this practice but in a more meaningful way? Do a random sketch of something? Something other training,something else?Yes,it gets boring after a while and my brain starts to wander.

>>6928949
I recommend this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22XYoenU-0c

bredy good progress while my Bridgman book arrives. I'm FEELING it

>>6928968
any advice for a handlet?

>>6928876
lol

>>6928977
draw more hands

Finally legs

I CANT BLEND

>>6927904
3 days

>>6929036
looks ok bro, just keep doing it

>>6929043
It looks like arse

>>6929045
first off stop using lined note book paper and second try putting that away for a week or so and come back to it with a fresh mind. you will be able to see the good and bad more clearly. gl

>>6929039
ive already done it you clown.>>6928702
i was planning to really rub it in your face with a higher effort drawing and putting screencaps of your posts in it and all but i quickly wondered if a clown such as you is worth the effort and now ive come to the conclusion that you are, in fact, not worth it.
but this drawing already widely gaps the shitty silhouette you posted previously and it showcases how the Reilly method is not just lines or whatever.
take it or leave it, i dont care either way.
however it is still 3 days so if youre lucky and my whim allows it i will obliterate you fully as planned initially.
that is all.

>>6929045
I recommend the first exercise from Proko's drawing basics. It teaches you to see values more accurately. You could then soften the edges to make it look better

>>6928702
>no hands or face
Now do it again and dont skip the actual work

>>6929049
>no face
>no hands
>no hair
didn't you call my drawing "featureless" you fucking clown?
>its a copy
kek, anyways 3 days to show off your construction method
>but this drawing already widely gaps the shitty silhouette you posted previously
it doesn't, it's an unfinished study, you were supposed to prove your construction method

>>6927555
How do I draw this better?

will I get better at drawing if I just sketch a couple manga characters every day?

>>6929059
you must touch a woman to understand

Anyone else sometimes save porn videos to use an anatomical reference? Like the other day I saw a video where the way the girls lower back structure change from flexing her spine and hips was very clear so I saved some screenshots from it to study later.

>>6929069
I've tried already but that doesn't help at all

>>6929074
she didnt possess the essence of form, try a new woman

>>6928977
I just started studying the anatomy, starting from the bones, then I just did alot of hands

>>6929076
No thanks I am not interested in women for the next 3 years just wanna draw

>>6929080
ngmi bro, without lust for the female form you can't possible conjure it to paper

This heap of shit is what you get when you try to brute force art with no technique
I try to practice art copying what I see, trying to looking at other art or in this case a picture I took, and trying to paint it

The values are all fucked up and unfixable - how do you even know your values are fucked up before it's way too late?
I can't even get started without values being totally wrong - even when I color pick directly from the source....

How do you paint tall grass?
Why did I draw things I didn't see at all in the picture, i.e the vines in the foreground look like fucking squid tentacles

Dead trees should be easy as shit, they're just made of squiggle lines and yet, these are fucked up too...

>>6929098
I am not a fan of slampigs but maybe having a few drinks before helps me draw them better. Thanks coomer skitzo

>>6928718
>>6928743
I liked em anon

>>6929065
No, you’ll just get better at copying

>>6927555
thic

Circles are now my second least favorite minority

>>6928643
It's you again. Cool. I would like to see you finish a full figure, though.

>>6928668
Cool anon. You might want to focus on simpler scenes/subjects first. This seems like a lot for you right now. Learn form.

>>6928676
I love med's map. Need to get back to it, going through Vilppu right now. Picrel is my week 1? I don't remember, from Med's. Every lesson was helpful. Drew a lot of skulls.

>>6928702
Don't be afraid of drawing features, I think you get more out of doing the whole figure unless you are doing targeted practice for a specific thing.

>>6928743
Looking better anon. Still to nit pick though, I'm not convinced you know/have figured out the form of the boots yet, specifically the toe/front part.

>>6928769
The juxtaposition of these made me laugh.

>>6928772
I love this, anon. I think I consistently enjoy the shapes you make for suits. Legs are really fucking too long, though. 1.5 headsish beyond heroic proportions.

>>6928824
Nice anon. You have long face/small head syndrome. >>6928834 kind of addressed it

>>6928933
Form. Very flat. Completely flat.

>>6929027
Hampton?

>>6929059
The real answer is that you draw 100 more figures from reference while studying a figure drawing video course or book. Copy some figures from books, too. There's nothing really bad here that's worth dwelling on, you just need more.

>>6929065
You are what you eat.

>>6929180
>Hampton?
Morpho. I expected it to be more instructive, but it's good for simple mileage and can be used later for reference.
>>6929180
>The juxtaposition of these made me laugh.
Adding chibi and small animals next then.
I started doing value blocking excercises again after a long pause, and they are good to quickly get feeling of proportions. I probably should add another value and in time can go for simple painting routine.

>>6929198
Morpho is gathering dust on my shelf. Should probably do that after/alongside Vilppu.

And yes, please make chibis and small animals.

>>6926880
My drawings are the 2 on top, with the yellowish background.
The other ones are the kind of thing I am aiming at.

I am stagnating, and can't get better than this.
Can someone help me? What should I do in order to improve and reach my goal?

Also, are there other materials I am supposed to use, other than the simple graphite? I guess that in those drawings have been used black pencils too

>>6929209
Do you ever watch Aaron Blaise? And make copies of these pieces that you're studying, ask yourself "what are they doing?" and try to figure out at least one thing you can incorporate into your process

>>6929209
sharpen your pencils

>>6928344
Edges can be sharp, firm, soft or lost. A line is the sharpest edge you can muster in an artwork, it screams plane change, a huge break between two color shapes.
A good rule of thumb is having a shape start quite sharp then loosen it as you move further away from the plane change you want to describe.
Sometimes you might want to soften an edge just to keep the focus away from that area, by keeping things vague you can keep the viewer's attention on the focal point rather than let it wander to other less important areas.
If you want more info on the topic, check Marco Bucci's yt channel, he has a huge wealth of knowledge on the topic.

Here is an ant drawing vilppu figure ants

>>6929180
>You have long face/small head syndrome.
I see. Is there anything I should do to counteract this, or should I just keep this in mind when drawing and be more careful with my measurements and so on?

>want to draw
>want to draw a uncommon pose in quite difficult angle
>want to construct it
>feel like literally forgot on how to do it
>looking for refs will take time and I will end up just copying it anyway
FUCK

>>6929252
take your own reference

>>6929251
Practice your facial proportions anon

>>6929251
>>6929265

>>6928177
>>6928504
>midwits can't draw poomis
>blames the book not themselves
Tch... a tale as old as time

How do anti-loomis schizos cope with the fact that many incredibly skillful and successful artist cite loomis as an important resource for their own education? The answer, of course, is that they don't know this because they don't draw nor care about art at all!

>>6928177
>i think this is waste of time
How did "copy Bridgman twice" transmogrify into "copy Fun with a Pencil three times"?

>>6929281
The fact that they have to copy an art-book twice, tells me that they're retarded.

>>6929280
This entire conflict is fueled by mental 16 year olds. Use what works for you and shut the fuck up.

>>6929281
It didnt pawell is just retarded

>>6928177
>he's finally drawing his own figures
About time. Now keep doing this.
>i wonder what is there to learn when your figures already look this good
I only recently managed to get to this level of quality so I'd like to reinforce what I'm currently capable of, but there's still plenty to improve. Plus I'd like to get a better grip on certain landmarks, better anatomy, etc.

>>6929281
The more I see people apply this "copy twice" thing to other works the more I dislike it as a method.

>>6929280
It's a shitty meme. You need to filter it out. It's literally just noise that serves no real purpose. Use your brain anon

sisters, where do I get reference for let's say just torsos, then legs etc? Do I just copy them from photoreference, or do I copy them from anatomy books, and if yes, which ones? I want to copy the torso first from every angle and turn it around. I don't want to draw it realistically but stylized

>>6929239
I love it

>>6929398
>>6929398
>>6929398
>>6929398
>>6929398
>>6929398

>>6929379
morpho simplified forms

>>6928951
This video was very helpful,thanks anon. I'll do some very basic form sketching to start out.

>>6928706
Source is me, have not posted since June however https://twitter.com/SojournFantasy

>>6929180
>d you know/have figured out the form of the boots yet
Oh yeah definitely not.

Like many things, It's still a struggle for me.

>>6931502
blog?