/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>6916002
You're lazy. It's not a condition and you're not special. Get a job.

>>6916002
>What are some guides I should follow?
you should follow the guide of a fellow called "Doing stuff eitherway" or even "discipline"

Follow the guide of How to: Give Up

>>6916005
>>6916006
>>6916014
You and people like you don't give a shit about fucking anyone or anything. Not even offering a single fucking thing of substance to say.

>>6916019
Oh, it's you again.

I told you already to tie a noose around your neck
Every other fucking day you come here go to /adv/ and some other board posting the exact same thread for months now
You won't draw, you know it, I know it and the crabs know it
So kill yourself already

>>6916032
If I could actual advice that actually worked, that'd be appreciated.

>>6916037
That entire comic is a strawman. They don't actually explain how to pet the dog. Same thing keeps happening with these threads.

Oh, it's the Vampire again.

>>6916036
You don't try hard enough to follow the advice obviously.
In truth you spent more time making these threads and replying to anons then to actually sit down and draw
And I don't give a fuck if you can't concentrate and then do something else, this not a excuse when you could just start again multiple times throughout your days

>>6916041
Because I don't know how to start and I don't know what the fuck to do. If I knew what to do, then I'd fucking do it.

>>6916006
>you should follow the guide of a fellow called "Doing stuff eitherway" or even "discipline"
To be fair many people struggle with being undisciplined and lazy: over 40% of adults is obese.

>this thread again
I have a better question: Does anyone here has autism and still draws? Post your work, Im curious.
>inb4
Im not humoring your blogposting, fuck off, OP.

>>6916039
YOU JUST PET IT YOU DOLT
THERE'S NOTHING TO EXPLAIN, THAT WAS THE FUCKING POINT OF THIS COMIC

>>6916044
I wish I could cut off your fingers so you'd stop shitting up the board with your whiny threads

>>6916052
Then why the fuck are there entire schools that teach art then?

>>6916044
See this? This is a scribbly scrappy tiny foot. This took me like what 10 seconds?
If you weren't a little fag complaining all the time and playing being a helpless puppy, you would find the 10 seconds for scribbly scrappy feet
But no, you are gay and instead ask for nonsense advice on where to start even though you know fully that it starts with your gay little hands touching that pencil
Something you won't do. I'd ve surprised if you even have a pencil and paper. You probably stole the pic you use for these threads

>>6916049
>Does anyone here has autism and still draws? Post your work, Im curious.
I strongly suspect I have one, but I never bothered with getting an official diagnosis, as there's no benefit in getting one where I live.

>>6916002
>I've legitimately never been able to commit myself to any serious hobby
Your hobby is to make shitty threads and circular schizo logic. You've become very good at it. :)

>>6916039
The people in comic assumed the guy knows what petting actually means.
Comparable to that idiot here. When normal person hears "draw", he thinks of picking up pen or pencil and using it to make marks on the paper, everybody saw someone *drawing*. The idiot here sounds like he heard the word, but doesn't even know what does it mean.

>>6916036
You don't even draw, you literally don't even try. You ask us how to run yet you don't even raise your fat ass from the chair to WALK to get the tendies.
You're not trying to make a habit of drawing everyday. you prolly don't even have a job because getting up everyday in the morning requires a modicum of discipline.
That's, of course, assuming you're not a troll.

>>6916044
>If I knew what to do, then I'd fucking do it.
No, you wouldn't
You don't even have an actual reason to draw.
Do you even like something? A game, a character? Something you want to put your spin on it?
Why do you eat tendies? Not because you're just hungry, because then you would eat just bread. No, you eat tendies because you like the taste. That's why you're a fat fuck.
Draw the fucking tendies then. Draw all those extra chicken that have to be killed to maintain the fat on your gluttonous arse, you owe them that.
also, >>6916059
Put in the work, fatso.

>>6916054
why the fuck can 3 year olds draw then?

>>6916065
>Put in the work, fatso.
I'm trying man ;_;

>>6916054
Art schools don't explain how to sit down and actually do your homework, which is what OP is struggling with.

>>6916069
Don't try. Do.

Here's an ancient clip (from Animation World Magazine) of Vilppu building up simple forms using rounded shapes; you might find drawing less daunting by starting with this exercise at least (sorry for the horrendous quality as it was uploaded in 1998, but the next step up would be the actual demos in his books / DVDs, which I assume would be overwhelming / too confusing for now)

>>6916063
kek

>>6916065
Then I might as well not be interested in anything because I can't do anything. I tried learning SFM as a teen and quit immediately, same with Gamemaker. And this is what it's like for literally everything I try doing. I legitimately can't get the motivation or energy to play video games anymore.

>>6916084
We've been over this. You should not attempt anything because you lack the motivation to do it. Spare us the threads. You've done nothing of value to humanity. You are a burden who makes the world a worse place.

>>6916085
I'm not hearing any drawing advice. Funny, I thought this board was about art.

>>6916087
Which is why you belong on a different board, yes. This is art and not self-help for your shitty life and brain.

>>6916069
you're really not trying so stop lying to yourself. You are 1000% delusional, you just keep lying and lying. Only thing you're trying is to put off doing any actual work. I'm calling you out on your fucking bullshit. You don't put in any work, deny it as you might.

>>6916085
>You've done nothing of value to humanity
Now that's a bit harsh. I think OP is a great example of what not to do. It's motivating in a way that seeing homeless people motivates one to work harder and to avoid drinking.

Speaking of which: I'm gonna turn off internet now and focus on drawing for an hour or two, which comes to me effortlessly :)

>>6916092
>Speaking of which: I'm gonna turn off internet now and focus on drawing for an hour or two, which comes to me effortlessly :)
Nice. I should do that as well. See you later in one of the other threads :3

based OP red pilling the masses on the necessity of eugenics

ITT:
>I guess I'm not allowed to pet dogs

>>6916090
Calm down mam, this foot is just as big as my thumb. Its not the only thing I did today :(

>>6916092
>>6916094
>>6916127
>>6916125
Advice? Anybody?

>>6916136

>>6916136
Okay anon let's see if you are worthy of my advice. The task is simple
Draw this facial expressions and just the expression, okay? Only eyes and mouth
Can you do that? Are you capable of this very simple task?

>>6916143
How?

>>6916146
you're straight up retarded my dude

>>6916143
How (is he so smug)?

>>6916149
It seems like a pretty reasonable question on a board about drawing.

>>6916146
This does not even take a minute to do.
You ask how? Fucking draw. That's how

>>6916143
nta, but very cute cat, this would work great for drawing a smug anime girl
thanks for sharing Anon, post more cute references

>>6916146
Put paper on screen and trace what you see with the pencil :)

>>6916153
Try to fucking do it and then post the result. If you post "How?" again I'm going to rape you at your house.
You drew those circles, so you know how to touch a pencil to paper.

Draw the fucking cat then post the image, and you will RECIEVE FURTHER INSTRUCTION AT THAT POINT.

>>6916153
>>6916146
holy hell, I was sure the original "How?" was just a random shitposter
OP is an actual zombie

>>6916160
Sure thing anon, this cat is very expressive. I used her myself once for reference

>>6916169

>>6916171

>>6916160
>duuude japanese use cat faces for anime
>yeah i saw it on twitter and instagram and tiktok
>Im literally basedjacking!!!!!!!!!

>>6916172
I like this one in particular

>>6916173
Shut up and draw

>>6916174

>>6916178

>>6916175
NO DUDE YOU DONT GET IT
cat faces are actually anime faces!!!!!
Isnt that crazy! Omg you GOTTA TRY this VIRAL NEW TREND!!!!!!!!!

>>6916181
And that concludes my dump. The cat has Twitter with more pics (fortuneisacat)

>>6916157
>>6916161
>>6916165
I'm still not seeing any explanations as to how to do it. What construction methods do I need to I need to follow? What drawing methods? What pressure curve?

>>6916169
>>6916181
haha, what a silly cat
Thanks for sharing man, you've really brightened my day :^)

>>6916182
Why are you talking like this?

>>6916186
>What construction methods do I need to I need to follow?
None.
>What drawing methods?
Put pencil on paper.
>What pressure curve?
Enough pressure so it leaves a mark on the paper and the surface of the paper intact.

>>6916186
One anon litterly told you a fool prove way on drawing and you still ask how.
A kindergartner is a better artist then you

>>6916186
1.You're a nigger
2. You don't need to know any of that yet

Touch the pencil to paper, make lines that vaguely resemble the cat. Once upon a time I would have thought that you were trolling, but after years in this hellhole I accept that you're legitimately low IQ and I'm trying to help you.

>>6916196
Let's make this a thread where we post our childhood drawings to prove even without any art education you can draw better than OP.
Here's a Charizard I drew in elementary school

>>6916183
Why the fuck is this thing spammed so much on /v/?

>>6916204

first person to call this picture "SOVL" is admitting that they say that to every fucking child's drawing in existance and are braindead.

>>6916190
>>6916195
>>6916196
No I'm looking for the construction methods, pressure curves, geometry, etc. I'm not interested in simply tracing shit. Give me actual resources and actual advice.

WARNING, THIS ANON IS A RETARDED EMOTIONAL VAMPIRE WHO WILL DEFLECT ALL ADVICE YOU GIVE AND FEAST ON YOUR PSYCHIC ENERGY BY DRAGGING YOU INTO POINTLESS CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HOW PATHETIC HE IS. IGNORE THIS THREAD AND GO DRAW SOMETHING.

>>6916210
>moving the goalpost to ensure you're never drawing regardless of what advice you're given
hehe

>>6916210

>>6916204
Based
The makings of a future artist

>>6916138
is that moot

>>6916206
This cat generates so much seethe it's hilarious. I can't stop posting her partially because of that

>>6916214
We know Anon, we know. Thank you for your advice, it's great that you care about us not wasting time, but making fun of OP and seeing how he fails to follow even the most basic instructions (>>6916143 >>6916146) is fairly entertaining.

>>6916204
SOVL

>>6916216
>>6916219
>>6916229
I'm not seeing any advice here still. No tutorials, no construction methods, nothing.

>>6916208
Post YOUR kindergarden drawings and we'll see if it holds true.

>>6916232
Do you want to look at my guide I made for my shitty drawing a of a mew a few months ago?
It goes into the details of how I constructed /beg/ level art that is honestly very simple
It might be too hard for you

>>6916232
We literally have sticky + links in /beg/. You have no excuse to not look them up. Fuck you.

>>6916002
There are days that creating is just too hard and nothing comes up. I like doing studies when that happens, you can never learn too much, but remind yourself to create and apply what you learned too(unless you just want to study forever, nothing wrong with that if you like it)

>>6916243
I'm not motivated enough to do studies.

>>6916241
Yeah I did that and I fucked up the first drawing exercise and didn't go back to it.

>>6916237
Can you link it?

>>6916248
I got it half way drawn then gave up. What other things have you already tried/failed?

>>6916248
>fucked up
No shit, you're new.
Try again, faggot.

>>6916260
I have no interest with sketching that particular thing.

>>6916257
SFM, Gamemaker, graphic design, multiple video games, basic strategy in playing video games, now playing video games in general,

>>6916255
Its really shitty in /beg/ level. It was also not really meant for other people. I made this to visualize my thought process
https://litter.catbox.moe/qgzfj6.jpg
https://litter.catbox.moe/c52mso.jpg

>>6916268
I kinda meant about drawing specifically. What sort of tutorials have you tried, studies, etc. You've tried the sticky, what else?

>>6916263
Oh, so you do have interests? Draw that.
Otherwise, fuck off.

>>6916273
https://youtu.be/9m4Hf_6U4Rc?si=opdJJswd78lgGtrD
Tried doing this, couldn't figure it out
https://youtu.be/5W3Wj-a_7Vo?si=N05mf-joqNyNUVh9
Tried this one
https://youtu.be/zDq9s9ZG_Ts?si=2W54YDBL95lFWg4B
Tried this one too
And multiple Loomis exercises.

>>6916279
You know that "try" doesn't mean "attempt once and then give up when it doesn't work immediately", right?

You're fucking with us right?

>>6916288
Because I still don't know what the fuck I'm doing even with the tutorial.

>>6916297
Bro how are you still alive. How did you figure out how to use the internet without a 500 page manual

>>6916300
Whenever I start drawing, i literally can't make sense of something as simple as drawing hair. I can't understand 3D perspective nor make sense of it in my brain. Not even mentioning the fact that reading these books is incredibly difficult for me to begin with.
I'm literally too retarded for basic trig. Even took a math placement test recently and fucking couldn't remember how to figure out the perimeter of a square or find the lengths of certain sides of a shape. I want to be able to do literally

>>6916300
Whenever I start drawing, i literally can't make sense of something as simple as drawing hair. I can't understand 3D perspective nor make sense of it in my brain. Not even mentioning the fact that reading these books is incredibly difficult for me to begin with.
I'm literally too retarded for basic trig. Even took a math placement test recently and fucking couldn't remember how to figure out the perimeter of a square or find the lengths of certain sides of a shape.

>>6916311
That's rough bro. Sorry you're stupid. The good news is that you can be friendly and a good person and people will still like you.

>>6916279
Ok, so you want to draw people. Have you tried just drawing from reference with no construction, how far do you get?
>>6916311
>I can't understand 3D perspective nor make sense of it in my brain
Do you mean vanishing points, or do you also not understand foreshortening either?

>>6916316
Foreshortening and vanishing points. I tried drawing from reference with no construction and I still fucked up and it looks like dogshit.

This is just me doodling random crap for about 15 minutes, it might give you some ideas. Best of luck, anon.

>>6916325
Ok bro you need to understand, fucking it up and looking like dog shit is NORMAL. That's what we want to see, so that you can get advice on how to fix it. We don't want you to show us a good drawing, you need to be comfortable with showing the bad ones so you can get help.

>>6916002
"You should be proud, you stood on two feet. And convinced someone that you could do something, when in fact you couldn't."

>>6916002
i'm autistic, have ADHD, OCD, PTSD, BPD (Borderline, not Bipolar), and many other acronyms to describe my mental flaws. I also have naturally shake-y hands. the mental stuff is not your problem. you're being lazy and using your mental shit as a crutch and shield. take responsibility for your failures and move forward. if you can't, you aren't worth the time it takes to type any other advice.
you either don't want it bad enough and want shortcuts, or you're just plain fucking lazy. all you're showing me is circles that you don't even want to put effort into correcting. unless your name is michael j fucking fox, there's literally no reason you can't sit down and erase then redraw circles until they vaguely resemble something a person would draw without riding a sybian.

>>6916337
>you either don't want it bad enough and want shortcuts, or you're just plain fucking lazy
Then I might as well not be interested in anything because I can't do anything. I tried learning SFM as a teen and quit immediately, same with Gamemaker. And this is what it's like for literally everything I try doing. I legitimately can't get the motivation or energy to play video games anymore.

>>6916335
>appalling
>mediocre
ACTUALLY pick one you fucking idiot. something can't be horrifically bad and still be mediocre. it literally cant happen

>>6916339
Do you have a job or are you just sitting on your ass playing video games and browsing 4chan all day

>>6916344
A 3 hour part time job that I'm barely even able to get through? Yeah.

>>6916339
i was gonna greentext but the more i read the more i realized your whole fucking reply is gratingly stupid.

warning to other anons: don't reply. it's just a fucking pity party he's throwing himself. fucking worthless cuck generation can't get off your ass and even make an attempt cuz they're too busy whining like a bitch.

>>6916344
I literally just said that I can't even play video games anymore.

>>6916316
>I still fucked up and it looks like dogshit.
When you do, can't you just erase the parts that are wrong and draw them until they're better?

>>6916351
It's ok you just sound depressed. You should try doing something physical, go for a jog or lift some weights.

>>6916354
Then it makes the rest of the sketch paper look like shit and eventually weakens it.

>>6916357
How so?

>>6916356
I've literally been doing 20 minute full-body workouts every other day for like 2 years and I've lost 20 pounds.
https://youtu.be/W5IiasNutB8?si=f6YSB_WCMnErxM0T
https://youtu.be/yDQQVU__6Uc?si=gj2yauHVgRhsAsVk
It did nothing to help me focus or achieve my goals. I was still just sitting around doing nothing.

>>6916360
Not drawing related.

>>6916360
Do you actually want to improve anything or do you just like telling people that their advice doesn't work? Maybe you're just bored and like complaining online.

This guy just likes to read posts...

>>6916358
I don't know if it's visible in this photo but it starts smearing the entire thing gray.

>>6916362
You asked me about my physical routine and I'm telling you what I'm doing.
>>6916363
Do you think I'd be making constant threads and asking for advice if I didn't want to?

>>6916366
>draws multiple lines
Just draw one line.
>draws over the space he wants to draw
Just stop your line at the right place.

>>6916366
If you draw lightly, basically just enough so you can see the line, it reduces the the amount of grey smear

>>6916369
>You asked me about my physical routine
No I didn't. Now get drawing, you lazy retard.

>>6916374
And I'm having trouble with drawing as I've laid out here.

>>6916404
We've been over this. Drawing trouble is a subset of your life trouble. Fix your life by seeking medical help. Then draw. This is a drawing board and not a board for fixing your motivation problem.

>>6916407
Even when I have motivation, I can't bring myself to do it. Even with video games.

>>6916417
This is not a board where you get help with executive dysfunction.

>>6916374
>>6916407
>>6916423
Even though anon cannot read a reply chain, he is right. It sounds like you want the advice board (>>>/adv/) not the Art Critique board (here).

>>6916371
I'm doing a line exercise in this drawing. That was part of the exercise.
>>6916423
I'm looking for help with drawing.

>>6916417
Have you tried drawing with a mouse? In a way, it's more non-committal than pencil and paper (especially if you do it in something like MS Paint), so you could trick yourself mentally into thinking that it's just random sketching / doodling, rather than anything that has to come out looking good.

That may not work long-term for improving, but you might develop enough of a drawing-habit that way, that you could then apply it to pencil + paper (or tablet) later on.

>>6916430
Can you draw a clock showing 6:30 AM?

>>6916432
I'm much worse with a mouse than a pencil. I'm way more used to a stylus or pencil.

>>6916430
>I'm looking for help with drawing.
We don't want to help you.

>>6916434
What about sticky notes? It could be frustrating drawing on such a smaller surface than a normal sheet of paper, but if you have some lying around the house, you can try to make it a goal just to fill out one sticky note a day, and work up from there.

>>6916342
I find mediocrity appalling. You're weird.

Step 1. Find a subject that you think you would enjoy drawing. (Or a subject you would hate drawing the least)
Step 2. Do >>6916354 and >>6916373
Step 3. Come back with the drawing and reference after a reasonable amount of time/effort

>>6916443
My tremors would make it impossible and I would get more frustrated

>>6916486
You mentioned that you've written before - have you ever gotten into the flow state while you were writing? You could theoretically write for a few minutes (about something you're really passionate about) before you plan to draw (or I guess however long it takes you to get into the flow state), and that might give you the necessary boost to crank out a few doodles, if even for just a few minutes. You could possibly even alternate between the two.

>>6916002
Holy fuck it's you again. Me and countless other anons have already given you the answers you need, yet you continue to drown yourself in your self-pity like the coward you are.
What you are doing is the definition of insanity, doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different result.
What do you expect from making these threads and posts? Do you want pity? Sympathy? Or do you simply want a place to vent about your pathetic state of being? You can still change and achieve the things you want to achieve, you know that, right? But you lack the guts and resolve to push through when it gets difficult, so I suggest you go lay back into your comfy bed and cry yourself to sleep about how life is oh so unfair. Give up like you did before as you were never serious about art in the first place.

>>6916510
Don't bother anon. You're way too kind by actually giving genuine advice. People like him don't want any help. They want to pretend they're making an effort to change, so they can shout at the world that they seriously tried but still failed. It's an extreme cope. Deep down he has already given up. You could posess his body and draw for him and he would still find a way to complain and whine. What a sad existence being stuck in such a deep victim complex. Absolute disgrace of a human being.

>>6916510
Yeah I have gotten into a flow state when writing before and I'm trying to figure out how to do the same thing for drawing. I may try the post it note idea or get a bigger notepad or sketchbook.

>>6916555
>>6916538
Then you might as well say I have no interest in doing any hobbies at all, because I can't do anything. I do legitimately nothing all day and merely sit around, look at my phone, jerk off and go to sleep. I don't play video games, I don't have hobbies, I don't have friend groups to be in. It's something called ADHD and depression.

>>6916245
I don't feel like I have motivation for it either, and I don't need it. I just like doing studies because they're rewarding by themselves, not for any grand objective. Try new things and see if any clicks for you

>>6916448
Was there a reason my suggestion wasn't worth trying OP?

>>6916751
this guy can't be helped, he has made this thread multiple times and rejects any advice

>>6916002
Oh hello again and please come back next time, just two more threads and you'll get the ultimate advice

>>6916002
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JXZ0FXZtlU
This is more a theory-of-approach type video, but I think you would benefit from trying to put it into practice.

not a single good piece of advice has been posted in this thread so far.

>>6917354
>implying that "read sticky" isn't a good advice for beginners

>>6916606
Then fuck off and never make any more threads or posts, ever.

>>6916002
ADHD was made up so parents dont feel responsible for destroying their kids attention span by feeding them brain smoothing poison that plays on kids tv channels.

start by doing focus exercises to make your brain usable before tackling drawing maybe

do the work bro.

>>6917563
Those are just examples of increasingly complex drawings, not instructions how to draw them.

>>6917645

>>6917645

>>6917727
This is too complicated, he won't figure out where to start at the eyeballs

>>6917370
And do nothing?

Anyone replying here is a faggot, OP doesn't draw nor wants to. He will always move the goalposts with every genuine advice.
He is literally the retard on this comic >>6916037

>>6917759
What am I supposed to do if the advice doesn't work?

>>6918207
kys

>>6918207
Try my advice first, then we'll talk.
>>6916448

Why no one here can give me a proper art advice? Are all of you legitimately so useless

>>6918416
>give me a proper art advice
Rangeban all ESL monkeys

>>6918418
stfu burger

>>6916136

>>6918416
ur lazy

>>6918416
That's some serious selective blindness you got there OP, literal advice right above you.

>>6916002
Unironically: breath with your nose, stop breathing out of your mouth. Google for more, studies, etc.

>>6917360
I have read the sticky. Fucked up the first drawing.

>>6916002
im glad you post here OP. you remind me of how exactly I DONT want to end up :)

>>6919763
Another example of the amazing "advice" I'm being given.

>>6919800
>advice
dont draw. full stop.
work on yourself. get into a daily routine. wash yourself every day. exercise daily. take better care of your skin and hair. get a job if you dont have one. make some real life friends. drink tea. immerse yourself in things that make you happy and try to cut out cheap thrills.
>then
when you're done being a pathetic, wimpy, self-loathing retard, come back to drawing with your head held high and your goals in sight. do you want to draw anatomy? draw anatomy. do you want to paint landscapes? paint landscapes. do you want to animate? animate. do you want to make comics? you already have the writing aspect down, make comics. keep doing this. make art to share, but don't make art SOLELY to share. be proud of your work. don't give up. just draw. the most successful artists' workspaces are cluttered with fresh sketches.
>rinse. repeat.
eventually it will work. take a breather. it sucks having to wait, but think of it this way: do you get stronger by reading how to do a pushup or by doing it?

>ALTERNATIVELY
keep posting on 4chan and hope that one day someone sees your post and sympathizes with you so much that they magically transfer you the ability to draw amazingly with little effort. then die miserable and regretful that you wasted all your time hoping someone would give you your dreams if you whined enough.

is that good advice? did you understand everything?

>>6919816
>get into a daily routine. wash yourself every day. exercise daily. take better care of your skin and hair. get a job if you dont have one.
I literally do all of this and I still can't do it.

>>6919823
you have got to be a troll because nobody is this braindead

>>6916186
>I'm still not seeing any explanations as to how to do it. What construction methods do I need to I need to follow? What drawing methods? What pressure curve?
this is what drawabox and loomis does to a nigga

>>6916002
>What are some guides I should follow?
Before I'm able to show you a guide you would've given up 60 times already.

>>6919800
I told you to stop posting

>>6919834
And he is one,stop giving this retard any attention. He wants asspats from everyone here

>>6919834
Your entire post is about me waiting. I've been waiting for six fucking years. I'm done waiting. I want to become an artist now.

>>6919840
>this is what not doing drawabox and loomis does to a nigga
fixed

>>6920200
Id like to hope that even though clearly this wont be heard by this guy that it might resonate with someone lurking in this threas foing through roughly the same problems

>>6916005
Based truthful anon.

>>6919816
>come back to drawing with your head held high and your goals in sight. do you want to draw anatomy? draw anatomy. do you want to paint landscapes? paint landscapes. do you want to animate? animate. do you want to make comics?
Okay but HOW do I do this? That's the issue I'm having trouble with. What tutorials should I follow?

>>6920277
Shut the fuck up. You're not doing anything to create any point of reference to work from. Even a lazy person would try doodling some random scribbles for some time to get an idea what's needed to be done, so you're either trolling or you are utterly retarded, yet somehow you managed to learn using the computer, to the catastrophic result.
Fuck you. It's shocking jannies didn't ban your pathetic ass. I wouldn't be surprised if you are a glowie tasked with disrupting this website.

>>6920323
>You're not doing anything to create a reference from
Because I don't know what the fuck I'm doing. Tell how the fuck to sketch, draw, do body construction. Link tutorials, link books, show me.

>>6920277
>>6920361
There: >>6916037

>>6916002
These people do not have ADHD and will not understand your struggle. As someone else with ADHD, let me actually give you some advice.

People with ADHD have problems with their executive function, which basically means we're terrible at self-motivating. Medication can help with that, but even on meds I wasn't able to sit down and teach myself how to draw.

You need to look for a place where you can go every day to draw. The problem with this is that there aren't many places that having life drawing every day. But you need to find one.

I took a chance and moved across the country to a place that has life drawing sessions every single day, and it's made it so easy to draw. I don't have my computer there as a distraction, and you aren't allowed to have your phone out while the model is posing so that isn't a problem either. Being around other artists has really inspired me to try new things with my drawings as well.

I feel for you. It's not easy to get good at a skill, especially a creative skill, with ADHD. But if you put yourself in the right environment you can progress a lot.

>>6920370
I don't have anywhere to go. None that I can think of. I'm essentially stuck in my house.

>>6920379
If you're trolling you're doing a great job. If you're not then you should give up on being an artist.

>>6920389
Well, I'm not.

>>6920389
Well I'm not. I can't drive and I don't have anywhere to go except in my house. I'll try to see if I can work in the basement of my house or something.

>>6920361
You're trolling, it could be even several crabs going at it because why not. Would explain janitors not shutting down the whole thing.
An autist(or sperg) would just follow instruction given few threads ago. There are literally beginner and artbook threads right now.
An autist would google the definition of drawing and he would also search drawing videos on youtube.
An autist is probably obsessed with something (like robots) and he wants more of it, so he decided to draw it.
He would google robot drawing videos. He would go look at machinery and try to draw them.
An autist would struggle with starting to draw, so he would google articles about dealing with procrastination, he would discover the power of habit
An autist would then set up an alarm to go off at certain time and then force himself to draw for a hour every day at the same exact time. He would form a habit, he would start making specific question he could search in google.

If you were truly just lazy, you wouldn't bother us with your bullshit for so long. If you weren't malicious, you would be ashamed to be such bother to everyone else and not even trying literally anything. If you really cared, you would understand that you are at disadvantage and you need to struggle much more to get somewhere.
But I know you're not genuinely seeking help, drop the act.
You can keep whining, but no one is buying it anymore.

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I would like to ask fellow anons to stop posting here. I understand the desire to dunk on him, but why bother getting mad? You're just feeding the troll.
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>>6920454
And now you're just making fun of me.

>>6920614
he's not. you're really the worst of everything right now.

The only way to draw something good is to draw it badly enough times to learn how to make it not bad. that's it. That's how simple it is.

You aren't willing to do that, so you'll never get anywhere. We can't fix that about you, only you can, and you won't.

You aren't bad at drawing, you're out of practice.

You haven't practiced enough to be good at it, or to know if you're bad at it.

This is 4chan, nobody here cares about you enough to hold your hand through something you don't want to accept or learn.

Go do fucking drawabox, go do asaro heads. Go learn a tiny fragment of a thing, and then every day learn another fragment. That's how you build into being good. Not by crying that you aren't.

Nobody will help you if you aren't willing to help yourself and just want a handout.

You want to be a good artist, you don't want to become one. You don't want to put in that work.

I'm ADHD, I'm autistic as fuck, and I don't sit here doing this.

Find a special interest and hyperfocus on drawing it until your fingers bleed and you've shit yourself from ignoring your body to focus on art. Then fucking come back to me.

>>6920709
He is just trying an another angle to get replies.
Don't bother, he will just come up with something else to whine about to provoke replies.
I'm pretty damn sure we told him everything that we feasibly could say. Literally the only one more thing we could do is to dox him, drive to his house and put a gun to his head and force him to draw. And blew his toe off the moment he starts whining to show we don't joke around.

>>6920709
Don't waste your breath man. Check the archive, this guy made the same thread on multiple boards at nauseum.
Don't feed him more (you)s then he deserves

>>6920709
Tell me what the fuck to do then. A higher dosage of adderall, anti anxiety medication making me shake less and another anti anxiety medications. This is on top of a booster dosage I'm taking each day too. My mind and my body locks up and prevents me from actually doing anything. Usually either out of anxiety or my mind and my body simply just locking up and telling me "What the fucks the point"? And just making me look back at my phone again or just stimming and staring at a wall.

Legitimately NOTHING has worked. I felt better for a week and then nothing. This has gone back all the way since I was a teenager too. I had thyroid problems that got fixed, but this never got any better.

I don't know how to get the motivation to do anything. Even when I do happen to try my hardest in doing something, it's always half as good or even just 2% as good as anybody else doing the same thing, because me being purely retarded and unable to learn or focus. Even when I try, nothing good happens. My entire body feels sore and I rest for the whole day. I've been working out for 2 years and lost 20 pounds as well.

>>6916019
Fuck off stop spamming the board you cunt

>>6921405
>I don't know how to get the motivation to do anything.
And yet you spend hours on /ic/ whining, creating excuses, and bitching to other anons. I'd say you're plenty motivated.

After reading your posts here's my advice: give up.

You've done enough anon you can go somewhere else, its ok, you lost the genetic lottery. You don't have a chance at art and you never had one. Its not for everyone.

Despite all the anons who say that anyone can learn this it is simply not the case. I've meant plenty of people who have drawn for years and can't even draw a simple cube. If you're not trolling then look at how much pain you're causing yourself. The best part about quitting is that it takes no effort. And as a bonus? You never even got anywhere near good so quitting should be easy.

I'm not trying to trick you btw. I'm serious. Some people just suck at certain things and shouldn't pursue any further. Go find something better to occupy your time and if can't find anything then just lay down and wait for death. Its not like there's a point to any of this. Even if you got good it wouldn't mean anything. If anything you would just be even more miserable.

I think the other anons are right though, you're an emotional vampire who baits (yous) because you probably don't have much going on. You either want some magical advice that will make you better with no effort or you're just a troll that has a fetish for making threads like these. Either way you're a pathetic loser who would actually gain something from cutting your losses and moving on to a different hobby.

Anyways thanks for making this thread your suffering has made me realize I want to be nothing like you so I'm going to go draw.

>>6921405
Don't think, feel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cm0uSVvjsOA

>>6916204
Based charizard, here is my childhood contribution from when I was like 11? maybe 12, good times

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Whoever else replies to this thread after this post, you will shit yourself in your sleep tonight

>>6916204
I drew this in highschool after watching a gameplay trailer of the first Titanfall

>>6921445
Then you might as well say that I'm not interested in anything because I can't do anything. I do legitimately nothing all day and merely sit around, look at my phone, jerk off and go to sleep. I can't get the motivation to do anything else.
No, I want to become an artist. I want to be able to draw the shit that I want to. I don't want to be stuck just being a writer because I thought I could never be a visual artist.

>>6921905
>Then you might as well say that I'm not interested in anything
I do and you proved it with the statement that you do nothing all day

>>6916204
Well I would but I ain't paying for shit

Do your parents a favor and kill yourself.

As someone who has been in a similar position, do not create things that are meant to appease other people or a group audience. Make things for yourself first and foremost, work on gratifying yourself. You're returning to make new threads as if something you see will engender some sort of epiphany that will result in you being better, but that's just not going to happen. You need to cut the bullshit, start something and follow it through.

You're not going to get shit right the first time, you're not going to master anything without being assiduous and for fuck sake you wont get anything done if you give up without even giving it a red hot go.

The shit you're describing sounds like you don't know how to draft and you don't know how to follow through.

>>6921999
I legitimately don't even know the basics of what the fuck I'm doing. I get filtered by Loomis.

>>6921999
This was my attempts at a Loomis drawing 6 months ago

>>6921999
Here's another one

Just two more pieces of advice and the retard will make it, keep posting

>>6916204
Feast your eyes on THIS

Now that I've actually posted examples, nobody is even bothering to respond.

Post something new faggot

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fuck you all for bumping this shit

I said new and not from 6 months ago nigger

>>6921445
Cute angels are always cute.
Saved.

>>6916143
Stop posting this cat. Its anti-white.

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This cat really doesn't like White people. You should stop posting it.

>>6916005
>Get a job
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>>6921493
> the smell

>>6916002
Literally me.
I feel frustrated by the things I do, they don't look fine for me at all. Everything also feels hard and burdensome, and I'm not sure if it would be worth it at all.
Jesus, I'm so tired. I am bogged down.

>>6927420
Okay, okay.
It's not a fast process, so it's pretty fair it'd take a lot of time. Maybe if I've practiced more.

>>6916143
I can't do it with the cat looking at me like that.

>>6916204
i traced a render of sonic once idk.
i'm not going to go looking for the ancient sketchbook because i'd rather not implode from cringe today

>>6916143
I did it cause i'm like OP but don't want to be stuck in this hellhole. I did trace though.
>>6916157
>This does not even take a minute to do.
peep the timer

>>6927492
Not him but good. Now do it 150 times.

>>6916002
Just trace you retard. I was able to make pic related thanks to tracing.