/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Are there any youtube tutorials which are actually decent?

>>6911248
Remember:
before criticising any of my work I post, I will require this information about you
1. your full name - name and surname
2. the address of your current residence
3. the address of your workplace
4. your marital status and the name of your spouse, if any
5. your annual wage, before and after tax
6. your license plate
7. your place of birth
8. the names of your parents
9. your credit card number and the expiration date
and finally you MUST post your work.
If but one of these points is not met, or, if I am unable to find a Wikipedia page about you, that matches the information you have given, that lists you as a prominent artist in any artistic field, all your critique directed towards me or my work is invalid and actually the opposite of what you say is true and my work is perfect and devoid of any mistakes.
Also, when you do criticise my work, you can not use any word included in the following list because your post will automatically get filtered by my automatic filtering system. You must treat me like a toddler when you criticise my work or I will cry.
https://rentry.org/za5t5

Let's keep it nice and civil in here, folks.

>>6911272
You dont need tutorials, you need to be drawing more. Read the books in the sticky, and apply whaf you learned

The bitch still seethes I see.

>>6911275
do you think you're funny?

>>6911275
You forgot to post your work, you abysmal, belligerent idiot

>>6911275
pyw you actual retard.

>>6911272
Yes but you need to watch them at the right moment, can't be too beg or too good. A lot of marco buccis tutorials felt top notch for me but maybe I just saw them at that right moment.

>>6911275

I take way too long trying to finish pieces so I've focusing on 1 hr sketches recently.

>>6911310
it shows
you should take more time

>>6911314
pyw

>>6911272
yes, more so than 100 year old books that teach you how to draw shitty looking naked people
the more crabs here try to stop you from doing something the more effective it

>>6911332
youre gonna have to post your work to enrich your post with credibility, otherwise i must assume 100 year old books are actually better than youtube videos.

>>6911310
what are you trynna do here

Does anybody have any references of children facing forward in full planar? Everything I find online and provided in class is heads or adults from the side.

>>6909265
Thanks a lot for your correction, anon.
>Difficult pose
I have heard that full-frontal poses are hard, why?
Do you mind if I use your drawing as reference?

>>6911375
Have you tried pediatry textbooks or asking /lsg/?

>>6911388
>Do you mind if I use your drawing as reference?
sure but use the updated one >>6910135
>I have heard that full-frontal poses are hard, why?
Overlap, foreshortening, asymmetry, all those things come naturally with a 3/4 view and they are fundamental to making things look good
>>6911334
sure, the drawing >>6910135 is mine, now post yours

>>6911397
Thanks,.

>>6911248
Hats off to the guy who puts in the effort to make these fresh OPs every 2 days

>>6911272
Yes, but they are all buried under 1000000 low /int/ artists, who learn how to abuse the algorithm, videos that will make you worse by watching them.

>>6911404
pyw

I don't regret picking up this book, but I want to finish it sooner rather than later. I expected it to be more about simplificication of anatomy in few geometric forms rather than presenting you with dozens of different ways to draw the same features.

Is Loomis still considered the best resource for permabegs wanting to improve at 3d construction?

What are your favorite ways to simplify a body? I'm really struggling to wrap my head around using a box for the torso and just lost for pelvis in general. Does anyone have a pic or something that could help with this?

>>6911453
bean

>>6911457
What that

>>6911460

>>6905106

how the FUCK do you draw a clenching fist in 3/4 view?!

heads

>>6911450
no loomis is a hack.
reilly is the way to go and loomis is so bad its not even comparable.

>>6911248
>new thread before I can finish
>again
Ended up with lighter colors than usual in the end.

>>6911504
nice, however i dont recognise that ebola strain on the bottom right, if that is supposed to be your autograph then you should work on it.

>>6911507
I'm a nobody, why would you recognize it? And what's wrong with it?

>>6911515
whats wrong with it is that its 100% unreadable. there should be some percentages of readability at least. this is garbage.

>>6911522
What? Signatures are not meant to be readable by law at least. Go on, post my your signature.

>>6911525
thats not what i said, i said some percentages of readability. not 100% unreadable. make it 90% unreadable at least. and i wont post mine because mine is my real life name you nigger. refer to the second post of this thread.

>>6911525
he's saying it so people can find your work easier you insufferable cunt

>>6911528
Just make up another signature?

>>6911533
just ask for socials then, most people dont sign their digital work, as far as I know

>>6911540
>>>6911528 (You)
>Just make up another signature?
>>6911540
>>6911540
>>6911540
just take my point into consideration? what has my signature or a signature i make up to do with your fucking signature you imbecile?
refer to second post ITT

>>6911542
lmao.Why do you people feel so defensive about backing your claims with your work? In this case, we are not even talking about skill, but just a sign.
if it has any worth for you, I just made it up on the spot the first time without too much consideration and there is no point in changing it now.

>>6911504
Love it but i think smth is wrong with angle of eyes and mouth should be lower a bit, also not huge fan of coloring on face.

>>6910763
made some changes to the face and hair, but i'm gonna stop here

gotta start deciding on my next drawing idea...

>>6911555
I struggle with skin coloring in general. Not sure about the rest.

>>6911554
>backing your claims with your work
there is no such thing you are delusional

>>6911577
You are right. I will listen to every single critique it comes from an anonymous board, that is the reasonable thing to do.

>>6911601
then why are you here? you are the laughingstock. go to a website with profiles, its more up your alley.

>>6911602
You realize you are not really countering my point right? I'm not saying you need to disclose your entire life in order to give advice, but you need at least SOMETHING to hold on to to make sure people critiquing you are doing it in good faith, thats the wole pyw thing is about. Being anonymous is great when giving honest advice but you will also get a lot of shitposting with it.

>>6911485
idk, this was just out of my head. Best to use reference

>>6911609
you realise youre not countering any points i make when criticising something right? posting my work in no way affects the validity of the points i make.

>>6911628
What brush do you use for line art?

>>6911631
Rough pencil from CSP. It should be free: https://assets.clip-studio.com/en-us/detail?id=1869224
And ballpoint pen from Pharan.

>>6911644
Thank you.

michelangelo was so goated

No matter how many "how to draw a human body" videos I watch I just can't fucking get the information to stick. I don't even understand what it is that I'm not understanding; even building a basic mannequin out of cubes and cylinders feels like a struggle because I just can't get the proportions right.

>>6911658
you need the reilly method

>>6911658
Do you have that problem with your other projects? If yes, you might want to study simpler items until you can get proportions rights.

>>6911622
All you said is calling my signature shit because you cant read it, which is totally subjective because signatures don't have to be eligible to begin with, just recognizable.
What I'm supposed to do with that?

I won’t draw for this thread, either.

>>6911502
pyw

>>6911669
pyw

I drew this today, I've decided to have a break from doing studies to try drawing fan art/own stuff for a while and seeing what sticks...

Though I seem to have this issue where as I feel very depressed/hopeless whenever I draw something, like I dunno why I get that but it seems to stem from knowing that A. I may never actually get good at drawing or B. I have an insanely long way from actually drawing well.

Granted it is way easier for me to draw now, a month ago drawing something like this would have been impossible, so even though it looks terrible (and unfinished cuz I drew it in like 20 minutes) it's still leagues better than my ability in September.

How do you get over the feelings of depression from being bad at drawing at 27?

And again only been drawing actively for a month.

sometimes I use other peoples art as reference if I like the way they stylize their shit but I ran into an issue, this artist I like has a lot of flat art. Should I use it as ref anyway and try and see if I can fix the flatness?

>>6911666
stick your signature up your ass you nigger im done talking to you

>>6911658
If you have hard time with proportions, you may want to start with mapping the whole body lightly (so that it doesn't get in the way later) first. Barely visible markers where body parts begin and end, what size they are and so on. You can start mapping out individual features later when you think everything can fit together.

>>6911675
NTA but PYW

>>6911683
redline it up yours, faggot.

>>6911691
pyw

>>6911694
YWNBAPYW

>>6911700
pyw

>>6911453
Rinotuna way. Just cylinders

>>6911678
Anon, if it makes you feel better some people start later. Try not being able to draw at 29.
Left is when starting out, right is some months later (hope it doesn't make you more depressed, lol).
Try not comparing yourself with already good artists, and pay more attention to your own growth. Figure out what you need to work on and do it at your own pace, not to burn out. Though it's good to draw something every day, even if for half an hour, just to not get rusty. Combining fundies with drawing for fun is a good approach to keep it steady, former you need to feel progress and latter will help you out with figuring what to train next.

>>6911453

6911683
you can tell it's the same miserable crab that got btfo last thread

>>6911714
Nah this didn't make me depressed. What learning resources did you use to get to this level? I am planning on studying Vlippu and Burt Dodson next, but would love to hear from you what you did, that's an amazing progression.

Tomorrow I'll just try drawing some characters for fun to see what I can do, but I also gotta work on some other thing (Blender related) tomorrow which is quite important, but I'll try to get a bit of drawing done.

>>6911720
I didn't start books until later, mostly educational videos on yt. The books you mentioned work as good as any others, but it's important to watch how other people draw and what advice they might have, cause it will push you into the right direction.
Also, if you want to feel better about yourself, try working on one pic longer. I would spend some hours on a single one until it looks decent enough for me (or until I can't make it better without making it worse). It helps with your confidence and show your weak points. Use references obviously.

>>6911763
Will keep that in mind for the week. What educational videos did you use if you can recall?

But yeah I'll see if I can do a "big" piece that'll take me a few hours to finish to see what comes out.

>>6911038
>>6911030
>>6910991
So I took your guys advice, I found I could make tapers with the line tool by starting thinner and thickening the parts I wanted. I also tried free drawing it with only looking at references, not tracing them

The YURMBY gamut masking also helped, I found a resource online that mentioned darkening it

I tried my hand at adding shading to it. This is meant to be the ear of a fantasy race.

How's it look? I like the result quite a bit.

>>6911681
only if you’re trying to ape their style, i would look for different refs for learning fundies. my favorite artist draws characters with wonky as hell proportions, so i don’t use his stuff when learning new poses or anatomy only when drawing for fun or studying stylization.

>>6911712
Do you have an example?
I like rino

>>6911716
PYW

>>6911844
>>6911397

>>6911808
well I was asking cause I was trying to incorporate their style into my own. I can copy real life photos well enough but I liked these particular refs. I was just wondering if they were worth using a reference despite their artists errors or if I should just find someone else I like to copy

How would the cigarrette light actually reflect on the hair?

>>6911433
Ok, this is my magnum opus.

>>6908560
looking for feedback, especially about the hair

>>6911873
Very nice.
Lovely even.
You most likely just roughed in the hands, but they look fat and like they belong on an animal. Kinda distracts really.

>>6911873
I really like your lines, but I don't know why.
I can't put my finger on what is good here, I just know it feels good. Weird.

Sup beg. I think i am getting slightly better at loomis heads. Very very slowly. Also doing whole page (20 heads) in 1 session is nightmare. I shall do just half of them. Which frankly slows me down even more but art demands sacrifices!

>>6911890
it wouldnt because cig isnt lightbulb
>>6911681
i wouldnt use art where i can notice errors as reference. why waste time trying to fix someones else mistakes when you can do master studies of drawers multitudes better than yourself?
>>6911678
>depression from being bad at drawing at 27
less thinking, more drawing
>>6911658
PYW
>>6911648
it is cool to see that ancient masters drew the same exact way as we do now. you can sort of feel the same feelings they felt while drawing. it is like connection through time and space: drawer to drawer
>>6911557
very stiff, but nothing drawing more wont cure
>>6911500
i kneel
>>6911450
i am doing pain with pencil and its a massive struggle with unclear instructions. maybe his other books are better but this one is tragedy

>>6911902
>but they look fat and like they belong on an animal
because it's going to be furshit. not a furry though

>>6911923
Get those commissions money, king

Teacher wanted me to design something ghost themed, so I made a ghost loli today

If I take a reference and try to reproduce it but I :
- Change the pose / camera angle
- Keep the clothes / design the same

Do you think it is a good idea / good exercise?
I like doing that, but I'm not sure if it is a good and worthwhile.

>>6911937
provided you can draw it accurately as it appears, yes it's a good exercise

>>6911937
I usually copy poses from real lide photos, not because i cant draw from imagination but because there are so much poses you can do that actually look goodbonce you look at them. I dont have evidence but Í’m pretty sure most pinup anime artists just re use poses

>>6911896
looks great!

I like the happy expression you put on. The hair looks good too.

>>6911806
Any tips on improving? The gamut masking thing really helps for picking out colors, it makes it a lot easier than my old method of finding pictures and putting the eyedropper tool

Should I make the tapering of lines more noticeable? I look at it now and realize it's still a bit uniform in thickness in some spots

spooky

>>6912000
Her nipples seem a little high up on her breasts

>>6912001
I really tried to show them, gotta try with different size and form.

>>6911351
Lookin good

>>6911439
morpho?

>>6911460
pic rel, simplified torso twisting

>>6912000
I might be wrong, but hands and feet seem a bit small

>>6912000
>>6912001
>>6912008
Thanks, i think it's better now. Gotta refine it tommorow.

Hey guys, I posted here around a week ago about an unpaid internship I was undergoing at a design company. My final day was on Friday and I like to think I left on good terms with everyone. Come the following days I'm told it was a 'surprise' I left so soon (I'd been there 2 weeks and made it very clear I was only going to be there 2 weeks) and that the person who got me the gig might get in trouble with their boss for having to justify getting equipment + software. I feel kind of bad (just a little since they 'did' help me) but the kicker is that they aren't willing to give me a reference for working there as they "haven't seen the full extent of my work yet.". This just sounds like corpo save-my-ass speak to get me doing more free work for them but I dunno. What do you guys think?
I'd post this on the careers thread but I'm pretty sure it's dead.

>>6912036
don't let a company guilt trip you into working for free anon

>>6912036
Definitely sounds like they were trying to get free work out of you. Did you network with your colleagues at all? Probably have a better chance at finding a job that way.

>>6911873
this reminds me of marc brunet... how do you build your characters

>>6912037
Yeah I'm trying to stand on my toes here but it's hard to when my parents keep asking what my alternative options are.
>>6912038
Barely. I don't want to be mean to them but I got the impression they didn't do much of their jobs outside of, well, their jobs.

>>6911929
nice

>>6912000
what'd you use as reference for this

>>6912052
Why are her titties so far apart?

Day 15 of learning the basics n whatnot. Did the usual ref sketches and doodling, but I also did a new assignment from Proko's basics course. Was supposed to do a study on a masters line work. I picked Horikoshi. It was hard as heck and it took me way longer than I imagine, I hope that's normal. I think I kinda understand a little bit of his line decisions, so I tried applying it to a head doodle. Didn't do any value stuff, but overall a pretty good day. Also, snakes are still hard and beetles are really fun.

today's practice

>>6911929
teacher?

Very shitty sketch.
Any kind of critique is welcomed, as if there was anything fixable.

Some faces I referenced a while back

>>6912082
This is nice! If you don't mind me asking, how big do you make your canvas? and how long on average does it take you to do one of those torso/thigh figures? Do you have any tips to draw stuff from imagination?

>>6912090
Slightly asymmetrical, just pay more attention to where you're drawing things and their proportions. Only really major things are the horns and the neck. The neck doesn't line up with the center of her body.

>>6911806
>>6911961
Yeah your lines are looking a lot better already. They curve to show the form better and the different thickness are helping to show whats in shadow and the T shape shows the overlapping of the upper ear.

Lines are an abstraction of reality. We don't actually see lines in nature so having them taper a lot or a little is up to your artistic expression. Analyze and study from your favorite artists to see how they use different types of lines to get different results and apply what you like to your own stuff. In general we use thicker lines for shadows, overlaps, to accentuate curves and to make more important things stand out. Thinner lines to show the light and for less important details. Lines going from thick to thin are useful for showing the form of an object.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE7bWfPeYSI

With shading, just like lines, the shapes are abstractions so you can design them to get different results. In general simpler shapes are easier to read and are also easier to draw. Clear separation between the light and shadow is probably the most important thing to keep in mind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZknWKTpc90
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcCJ2CU-bFw

The color you chose for the shadow is a bit too close to the light in terms of brightness. Making it darker will make it more effective. Also you almost never want to just darken a color. The hue and saturation are also effected. A good rule of thumb is to just make the shadow colors more saturated. You can also shift the hue closer towards red for warm colors and closer to blue for cooler colors. Most of the time the light will be warmer and the shadows will be cooler. It's quite subtle so don't go crazy with it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LhcNbFMkTw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFoKmX0LfCs

>>6912101
>Slightly asymmetrical
?

>>6911453
Ovals

>>6912096
thanks bro, I use the default b5 canvas from csp
the small figures take me about 5-7 minutes, the big guy took a long time tho
to draw from imagination I would recommend making many copies of manga pages since they are just lines it is easier to learn anatomy, choose a good artist who is an expert in anatomy and make copies of his work alongside an anatomy book, over time you memorize some poses and can reproduce them without reference

>>6909251
no refs

>>6912131
You make me feel a little better about myself.

>>6912134

>>6912127
is that bottle of liquid a meme or something?
i see that one particular bottle with that one particular wave in the liquid fucking EVERYWHERE

>>6912131
first thing i see come back to ic after six months is you drawing exactly the same as you did, six months ago. haha

>>6912146
Being unaware of this level of complacency is a sign of a true schizo.

>>6912148
how is that gloating

>>6912145
I don't think so? I think it's just the most common way for the liquid to move.
also just realised it's anti-gravity lol

>>6912127
What is that clock?

>>6912131
oh you're this anon arent you

>>6912188
>>6912183
>>6912131
I give thanks to God I am at least better than you.

>>6912069
Why would they be closer together that's not how tits work

Done with the torso section. Next is upper limbs.
>>6911873
Now that’s the good shit
>>6911310
I recommend 5-10 minute timed gestures. To me, this doesn’t look like you need to spend more time on a single drawing, but like you need to do more drawings. I think you just need more mileage.
>>6911439
Yeah… I’m a little behind you I think. I’m hoping that combined with what I’m learning from Hampton, it’ll make copying Bridgman give me superpowers.
>>6911453
Vilppu, Hampton, Morpho all sort of end up with a boxy egg for the rib cage (egg shape for the rib cage proper, with the shoulders and lowest attached rib sort of forming corners) and a box for the pelvis.
>>6911450
Never done loomis. Couple lessons of draw a box helped me feel the form.
>>6911628
Very nice. Work on drawing the whole figure. And draw more cute squirrel/otter things because I love it and want more.
>>6911648
He didn’t really draw women nearly as appealing as his men, which are literally god-tier.
>>6911658
Vilppu and mileage
>>6911678
By improving. You’ll be surprised at the difference focused study and lots of drawing can make.
>>6911714
GMI
>>6911929
Cute! I like the ghost giving the thumbs-up, kek
>>6912020
Yep, lots better.
>>6912073
Based, GMI. You’re really feeling the form, anon. My favorite part of your studies are always the doodles.
>>6912082
The difference between your men and women is interesting to see.
>>6912090
Some more anatomy knowledge would help, as would feeling the form. Doesn’t seem like her horns are on evenly, and the one on our right is a bit bigger curvier than the other. Her tail doesn’t seem to flow from her tailbone/spine. This isn’t a masterwork, no, but it’s nothing to be embarrassed of either. You’re too hard on yourself, anon.
>>6912131
I’m a fan. I love your art. I think all you need are more full-body figure drawings instead of just shoulders-up portraits and you’ll level up big time.

>>6912211
All you have to do is look up smaller chested women in bras, but keep coping with your shit drawing and shittier attitude.

>>6912226
nta but not every bras are push up bras

>>6912217
>Some more anatomy knowledge would help, as would feeling the form
>Feeling the form
>Form
This kind of esoteric stuff always escapes me. Makes me feel like some kind of animal like a parrot or a crow who just repeats sounds without knowing how to speak.
Am I actually trying to draw or just throwing shit at the canvas?
>too hard on yourself
I don't like lying.

>>6912239
Where did I say they were? The bra is still completely wrong, even for a low cut one, and her boobs are slightly too far apart.

>>6912226
I do not like some parts of it but tits looks fine and done well. stop being an ass

>>6912247
to get a better understanding of “feeling the form” i would use a ref in a similar pose and draw construction on top. usually it helps if the ref is thin and fit so you can tell where the bone structure is. then try to replicate the same construction without tracing. i like doing this on drawings i like too, not just reference images

>>6912069
>>6912052
Small titties pressed up by tight bras and shirts look like that

>>6912103
Thanks for the advice!

I read something that you shouldn't alter the saturation too much for making things darker/lighter (https://www.instructables.com/Limit-Your-Paint-Palette-with-Digital-Gamut-Mappin/).). I tried to just not alter saturation at all, but I guess it's perfectly fine to change it as long as it's not too much?

>>6912251
I may be too stupid or permabeg to understand how this will help the drawing.

>>6912254
>>6912052
that's a style of bra where it's literally taped on. her breasts would be much closer together if she was wearing that. picrel is probably what he wants.

>>6912250
nah i think they're too far apart too. it's not that big a deal though.

>>6912258
not that drawing in particular, but for future drawings. doing this will also help you recognize where you messed up when you look back later on. you're doing good, just keep going

>>6912256
Color is pretty forgiving as long as the values are right. Depending on the art style and feeling you are going for the saturation can be all over the place. Just study art you like and see how they do it and what feeling that gives. Every rule about color can be broken, so treat stuff you read about it more like guidelines or opinions rather than rules.

>>6912247
Feeling the form is basically understanding construction and learning to think and draw in 3D. See pic related.
Here’s what I did to brute force it:
>Draw A Box until lesson 4
That’s enough to get you started. To apply construction and feeling the form to the human figure specifically:
>Vilppu drawing manual
>Vilppu renaissance figure drawing course
More advanced figure construction:
>Morpho
>Michael Hampton
>Bridgman
To keep your 3d drawing powers up and develop them further:
>grinding organic forms and primitive forms from imagination
>rotating boxes and cylinders
>constructing hyper angle poses

Really all it is is drawing boxes and tubes as placeholders and simplifications for the figure. Drawing a torso is hard. Instead, it’s a lot easier to draw an egg (rib cage) and a box (pelvis) connected by a squishy tube(abdomen).

now i dunno what else to draw

>>6912117
>having parts or aspects that are not equal or equivalent; unequal.
Flip your canvas, or take a picture and flip it if trad. Just look at the horns dude, they're two entirely different shapes.

>>6912272
>Doing geometric shapes and bags of shit over and over instead of Just Drawing™
ISHYGDDT
Do you want to end up as this fucker?>>6912275
Just drawing the same shit over and over?

>>6911712
Pretty sure he uses boxes no?

how do i stop being so awful?
how come it feels like nothing's worth it?
how do i move on with my life?

>>6912279
>He doesn't like googley-eye anon's art
Anon, I...

>>6912269
what is that tool for checking color gamut?

>>6912272
Seeing those things makes me see red ever since that fucking mudslime scammed me.
Guess I need to swallow my pride and do the fucking organic forms and boxes.
They SHOULDN'T make my shit worse.

>>6912278
Now I made them worse. Who would think that making two bananas not look completely fucked in relation to each other would be impossible?

To nobody's suprise I have managed to make it worse.

>>6912308
hey wait a minute, THAT'S URABE???

>>6912310
So shit I can't even get the resemblance right...

>>6912297
he's right, i'll have to draw rinko like this unfinished sketch

>>6912269
I see. I suppose there's no harm in playing around with colours and just seeing what is fun or not.

I know tracing is a bad crutch, but what about using other art as a skeleton for a pose?

I like a lot of these Oblivion class poses and thought of taking some of them, drawing lines and circles where the important bits are, and drawing the rest based off that

>>6912317
>but what about using other art as a skeleton for a pose
its a bad crutch

>>6912327
So it'd be better to just use them as a reference?

>>6911275
Kekd before I finished reading surname. Criminally underrated

>>6912293
I need more info anon, there could be many reasons why you're feeling that way

>>6912039
Nothing out of the ordinary. my first sketch is basicly just a stick figure with circles as torso head and pelvis to get the rough pose down. Then I add cylinders and readjust their position when I feel something doesn't look right. Then I add details. I also use alot of references

>>6912332
yes learn proper construction

>>6912303
A program called KGamut.
https://cr10blog.blogspot.com/2013/02/kgamut.html

These web based ones are decent too. First one is more basic, second one has a cool 3D view.
https://www.geotests.net/couleurs/frequences_en.html
https://jbt.io/waveform/

>>6912317
Just tracing the pose isn't too bad while practicing other stuff, just don't let it become a habit. In the long run you'll want to be able to draw your own poses.

a "comic" that's going nowhere, just as a way to practice some different things. i'd mainly appreciate feedback on the hatching and composition (simple as it is)

>even pawell ignores my work
It's so over

>>6912465
I think you could add something to the foreground on the bottom left frame, this mountain looks like a cross-section.
Also setting up fire in the house without windows and smoke pipe isn't healthy

>>6911916
seriously pawell this is the last time i will be telling you this.
i strongly recommend you stop it with the loomis crap because loomis is a hack.
and instead you type into google "reilly method book" then do your own research to find a good book on it, not much research is required.
however i will not spoonfeed you the name of the book in question as its such a good book that will teach you so much and so effectively that i feel like you should at least do the barest minimum of finding it on google to "earn" it.
so there. this is the last time i tell you this. do what you will.

What‘s with the aggressive reilly shilling recently?

>>6912539
its all the same crab
you can tell by how he writes

uuhhh yeah needs practice

>>6912557
this method has to be the most over-engineered beg-trap ever

>>6912487
i assume smoke doesn't bother witchy lungs too much lol. i do agree about the mountain climbing panel, i'll add something there. thanks, friend.

>using spheres instead of boxes
ngmi

>>6912570
sure retard

>>6912570
Is that even a particular method?
Looks like just some basic construction plus some random guidelines

>>6912589
it is the reilly method

>>6912592
I thought that one constructed the head with a million lines

>>6912595
the reilly method is not limited to head construction only

>>6912557
Reilly is not about construction, you must get his idea of rhythms and then go for construction. I used to use his method, it works great is figure is not foreshortened.

>>6912601
reilly is about construction

yesterday

>>6912646
Go figure out spines.

>>6912654
redline plz

am i meant to copy every loomis figure?
atm I'm studying fun with a pencil and i got to the jointed doll part but there are like a bunch of jointed dolls
if so, how much of effort should i spend doing it?

The only thing I can bring myself to draw anymore is twinks getting abused. I live a hollow existence.

>>6912667
You'd probably like Sabu.

>>6912663
Only if loomis wrote that yoo should.

>>6912601
>it works great is figure is not foreshortened
>not about construction
you were saying?

>>6912663
>am i meant to copy every loomis figure?
you are meant to dropkick that piece of shit garbage loomis book into the trash bin and pick up a book about the reilly method instead.

i carved a pumpkin

>>6912663
Do you actually like working with the book?
If yes copy pretty much every drawing in it in addition to reading the text, if not find a book you do like and do that.

>>6912677
should have used the reilly method

anons, do you think is this how a gesture drawing is supposed to look like? i can’t stop thinking about this artist's drawings. i love the flow of them,

>>6912670
He's pretty good but his guys are a little too feminine for my taste.

>>6912685
no this is absolute garbage devoid of any artistic value

>>6912685
Gesture drawings can look very different depending on the method used. That being said this artist seems to have pretty good gesture.

>>6912685
I like it, googling gesture drawings he did that in about 5 minutes? That's pretty good.

>>6912685
Pure gesture, beautiful stuff. Don't listen to the crab, he's been samefagging these threads for weeks.

>>6912646
I assume you like big titties?

>>6912685
signing a gesture drawing is kinda cray crazy

>>6912685
cute cyclops

>>6912675
this drawing is more guide lines than actual lines and it's barely a torso
this method is so fucking stupid

>>6912694
how did you know?

Some sketches from imagination and from inspo.
Any opinion and feedback welcome.

>>6912663
No, you're supposed to use the concept in your own drawings. FWaP offers simplified tools to get children using construction in their drawings. It's not meant for rigorous study. If you like Loomis and want something for serious study use Figure Drawing for all is Worth.

>>6912709
pyw

There's no real shortcut to having to draw all the spines for a barbed penis is there?

>>6912721
Consider not being a degenerate

>>6912721
i can understand knot but why the fuck would anyone want cactus dick

>>6912714
All of your characters have weight, they're interacting with their environments to some degree and not just floating in a void like most character/concept sketches. That's already miles ahead of artists that have achieved a higher degree of technical proficiency.

The hips (and associated joints/musculature) is your weakest area in terms of form. Like the sitting guy's look wooden and the astronaut's look too fluid.

>>6912725
Cats and fossas just have them on their dicks

>>6912730
>sitting guy
i mean the dwarf thing, not the dude on the barstool (he's got his own hip problems)

>>6912721
This is probably the ugliest and grossest fantasy dick I have ever seen and I have been a e621 regular for more than a decade.
Congratulations.

>>6912735
That's not a fantasy dick. It's a drawing of the penis of a fossa from Madagascar

Their penises are so long when fully erect they nearly reach between their forelegs. Their knots are cause female fossas are sluts and sleep with any male so they need something to lock in place.

>>6912731
i know because i hear cats scream bloody murder everytime mating season arrived, what i don't understand is why would a human want to have sex with dick like that unless they have guro fetish.

>>6912721
I used to think I was a degenerate for liking futa, shit like this has convinced me over the years that I am a well-adjusted normie.

>>6912741
It all started with that one Daggerfall story where Barenziah fucked a Khajiit, passed out, but found she liked it

>>6912740
man what the fuckle

>>6912746
Animal penises are weird man.

Some turtle species have their dick tips spray out in five points like a morningstar

For me? Its the Horsecock.

>this is who you share a general with

>>6912709
>barely a torso
>this method is so fucking stupid
you were saying, stupid?

>>6912752
Why not a fusion of horse and another crazy animal cock?

I just realised the only thing that matters is mileage and using my brain, feels pretty good.

>>6912771
yeah, i recently finally defeated my procrastination.
few weeks ago it was difficult for me to draw 1 hour at a time, 2 hours at a time. or like 4 hours in one day.
the past week it has become a habit to draw, now i draw for hours at a time and time passes more quickly than i realise. also i feel like i have to spend as much time as possible every day drawing and playing video games or whatever makes me feel guilty.
but i dont know, yesterday and today i have a headache and i cant draw as much and i feel sick looking at it after a while. but that should pass when the headache is gone.

Whats the technique to place eyes properly.

>>6912770
I really enjoy my XL Seraphina from Bad Dragon.
A knotted horsecock but it can get difficult to take the 14' knot when the 11' head is poking your diaphragm with the 17' insertable length.
Feels really damn good, though.

i really like to just get a ref and try to draw it, is this a good way to learn?
is there any book/resource that complements that?

>>6912778
construction x perspective

>>6912782
Learning to construct from basic shapes is kind of mandatory unless you really like symbol drawing

>>6912778
the reilly method

>>6912785
i do it yeah but i don't think i do it enough
is there any resource on that too?

>>6912758
>still barely a torso
can you erase those guiding lines or draw on top of this construction to resemble some character? Like maybe goku from dragonball? It can be anything you want
Please I just want to confirm it's effectiveness

>>6912778
Flipping the image helps me usually

Could someone check this? I have no clue what to do with the clothes and folds and shit. Thanks.

>>6912813
i cant draw features yet, i havent reached that point.

I'm really proud of how the twig turned out.

>>6911771
>What educational videos did you use if you can recall?
Lol, stuff like Marc Brunet, mikeymegamega, Proko and so on. Neither of them are optimal for a complete beginner, cause they are better for general advice if you already know how to draw semi-confidently. Still useful for inspiring you to push above your weight. Just don't get upset, you can't do the simplest thing they do as good as they can.
If you search for specific exercises for beginners, you can find something from them or other yt teachers. But books work too if you want more in-depth material.

>>6912721
>>6912740
what is wrong with you

>>6912819
and you never will because you got begtrapped by construction

>>6912827
pyw, everyone uses construction

>>6912831
please show me one timelapse by an accomplished artist where you can see them using construction
>pyw
>>6910135

>>6912827
screencapping your post and i will be including it in my first proper figure drawing which i predict will be in about 2 weeks. see you then, you nigger.
>>6912834
>>pyw
>>>6910135
>>6912834
>>6912834
LMAO a featureless silhouette, good job.
i am steadily improving by leaps and bounds and i will shit all over you in two weeks, mark it on your calendar, nigger.

All lower case + no full stop = do not reply.

>>6912827
they do it in their head, are you retarded?

>>6912839
>mark it on your calendar
ok, i did, you won't be here in a week but sure
>>6912844
then do it in your head, tf?

>>6912846
how do you think you can learn to do it in your head?
don't fucking answer retard

>>6912847
you've been at it for a week, drawing the same torso from the same angle
enough learning yet?
>how do you think you can learn to do it in your head?
by doing it from your head until it looks correct

>>6912849
not even me, I'm just call you out on your retarded takes

Draw your waifu/OC/mom in this outfit

>>6912859
certainly not coomer-kun

>>6912822
that's a nice twig, friend.

>>6912730
>>6912732
Hey thanks.
You're right on the hips an joints, I'll be more careful.
Funnily enough, I realized with the astronaut I could use a bit more of "smooth" lines to give an impression of gesture, but It ended up too fluid.

>>6911952
hey thanks but I was really looking for some critique

>>6912889
My only critique is that the top has no shape because it is just black with no outlines or shading and the veins are way too prominent, you need to make the veins blend more.

>>6912676
your forced meme is getting old

ah headache headache and SO what i will draw anyway
see if i care

>>6912961
pyw

>>6912891
>the top has no shape because it is just black with no outlines or shading
guess so but wasn't the photo like that too? I thought it would work
>and the veins are way too prominent
well true but they also look bad in general, i know there's some layer trickery to make it look good but i dont know how

>>6912859
Drew my friend

I genuinely hate drawing, it is the most frustatng thing there is, I hate this, I wish I could just not want to draw, fuck my life

OK, thanks for telling us.

>>6913008
leave

>>6913003
friend like your tulpa or real friend.. can i get her contact info please. Looks good thouhg friend

>>6913013
no, fuck you

>>6912491
PYW

>>6913017
pyw

>>6913018
you replied to it

>>6913008
>>6913015
just draw nigga, stop crying.
don't be like this
https://youtu.be/lzUPDxU_jy4?si=nE-NGFCkTrkpxkUB
captcha: YSTOP

>>6913014
Real friend. I send her all my coomer shit because she's a depraved. I've busted plenty of times imagining her cumming to my drawings. Very wholesome friendship other than that.

>>6913020
pyw

my head is going to Xplode
now

Fuck you nigger faggots retards I hope you all rot in hell

this but i hope only the pyw posters will rot in hell
also i hope people will finally pick up reilly instead of loomis so that they can finally make it

>>6912127
On the bottom right how did you change Neils Work clock skin?? I couldn't find anything online and there is literally nothing in the directory.

>>6913031
This is horseshit... Draws better than me and has all that too!!! FUUUCK!!! YOUUU!!!! send her that one and tell her I busted a load to it thanks man

>>6913041
PYW

>>6912825
There's nothing wrong with knowing about animal anatomy

Yep, thats enough drawing for today

>>6913067
that is sad

>>6913068
Pyw

>>6913073
pyw

You've got to be an actual honest-to-God retard to give (You)s to this dude.
I blame newfags.

>>6913052
If it makes you feel any better I have major depression and can barely draw a few things a month

youve got to be an actual honest-to-God retard to brush off any and all arguments by posting the three letters p y w

>>6913096
pwy

>>6913092
It doesnt friend Im sorry... I also have treatment resistant major depression and does the same shit to me. You still win though keep on winning!!!

>>6913100
pyw

>>6913103
ppp

how it looks?

>>6913109
pyw

>>6912761
It's good but it looks like the feet have been put on the wrong legs somehow.

>>6913130
pyw

>>6912052
here anon, I gave it a try

>>6912889
MUST.
MOTER BOAT.

>>6911248
currently putting time into constructing all the different parts of the body while warming up with gestures beforehand. I'm hoping to get a base understanding of all the parts so I can put them together in a cool pose.

>>6913182
does visualizing the ball joints like this actually help you? genuinely curious

>>6912290
>>6912301
Which artist are you trying to emulate? The scribbling of the shadows doesn't help your drawing, it comes off as aimless and wandering. Be more decisive and have a specific result you'd like to accomplish in mind. I did a redline of your drawing over in the Redline general.

>>6913209
NTA but God bless you, anon.

Really wanted to capture more of her expression.

how do you "push the pose"? is it drawing the ref in a different way? is >>6913209 an example of pushing the pose?

>>6913109
Lines are very clean
I like it

>>6913209
Very nice

Attention actual beginners: "Loomis is a hack" is a stupid meme. Filter the poster out and move on with your life. It's one massive faggot posting it. If you pay attention to this kind of stuff, it's only going to waste your time. Some people just like wasting others' time.

Yes, Loomis is well known in Japan. Yes, Loomis has been referenced for a long time. Yes, Loomis has been used in many curricula. No, he's not perfect. No teacher will be perfect for you, but you need to learn what you can, practice it, and keep what is most useful for you. But you won't know what's most useful to you until after you've had more mileage.

>>6913164
my cute wife...

i reused old OP because lets face it: this thread was a disaster: autists arguing about books, crabs yelling PYW at each other, 1 anon brought his meltdown from older thread and one of the few actual new pieces features a literal animal penis...

>>6913271
>>6913271
>>6913271

>>6913185
I think so, yeah, but I'm mostly following the video I'm watching for now. it does make it a little easier for me to visualize the form by comparing the individual pieces to similar shapes: make the chest a vest, pelvis as panties, and adding those joints pushes out where the hips should be. also helps me if I add wave lines for direction and form of the thigh.

>>6913358
*wrapping lines

>>6911248
Another month without any progress.
Another month of NGMI.
What point is it supposed to change?

>>6913536
shut up and keep drawing boxes.

>>6913657
Here's to 7 more years!

hamptons book filtered me
now what

>boxy construction ends up looking too stiff
>spherical construction too loose
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