/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Cat

>>6908360
one day i will make it into the OP pic
one day

>>6908372
ngmi

Anyone happen to have a good book of poses? Like real life models (male and female)?

Would be useful for drawing from reference and would save me needing to use google all the time.

I won’t draw in this thread, either.

Study I did today, took me a few hours. I definitely messed up proportions on most of them, but alas.
When you guys do studies, what do you do in order to get as much out of them as possible? So far, all I really do is observe and recreate it the best I can, and then overlap the reference to see how far off I was.

Remember to note your own work and use it for next practice.
Anyway, anything egregiously bad about these as a whole? The Alucard one took me for a spin because those guns are fucking fat and long.

Draw this in your style

>

Finished inking psylocke. Anyone have a good video course on inking? Anyway lot of lessons learned on inking and anatomy. Happy how it ended up.

>Autistic, ADHD
>Have never been good at hand writing no matter how much I've tried.
>Tried learning Source Filmmaker as a teen and gave up immediately and couldn't figure out the UI
>Same thing happened with gamemaker
>Can't figure out basic trigonometry
>Essential tremors fucks up everything I try doing

Am I legitimately too retarded to be an artist? Is there really any hope for me? I'm also starting at the age of 24. Am I just refusing to accept reality?

>>6908417
>tattoos
Boner - impossible

>>6908460
it's okay to be gay

>>6908487
the ones with tattoos like these are yakuza sluts right
also
>satan cross

>>6908414
Soul

Is there a course or any good resource in general about rendering with pencil, prismacolor etc? My sketching is slowly improving thanks to Michael's Hampton Analytical Figure Drawing course, but my rendering is preposterous. I've checked Chris Legaspi rendering course at NMA and it's garbage.

>>6908515
Michael Hampton's*, sorry

>>6908515
Another example of where I'm at, if someone wants to give me some feedback. I'm doing these mostly Sargent value studies for Hampton's portrait lightning class.

>>6908531
I tried pastel pencil too (picrel), but it was way messier and looked worse.

Studying Kim Roche's Coloso Course, trying to memorize head construction

Can I get some advice on whether I am doing it right?
(Cant post pics due to IP range ban..).

https://i.imgur.com/lbNUJ0g.png

How well can you draw booba?

>>6908487
is there anything real about this abomination?

>>6908573
yea, that sink might be real stone

>>6908487
I see you've added fake tits for the ultimate turn-off.

>>6908560
kinda ok-ish I guess

>>6908582
I love you (in a platonic way)

>>6908560
When boobs (or any form) gets deformed from its support, do you draw the boobs first, or whatever is supporting them?

>>6908589

So does anyone happen to have any good Pose Book .pdfs?

I won't ask again just would be cool if someone could share some.

>>6908595
I posted a 4 thousand pose collection in the previous thread, if you're interested.

>>6908560
I like to think I can somewhat draw breasts. Heavily inspired by my master eu03.
>>6908582
Wish you uploaded those to Twitter. Love seeing sketches like yours.
>>6908590
Is it a piece of clothing? Breasts first.
Is it a piece of furniture or something that isnt part of her body or clothing? That first.
Not like my prebeg opinion is of any worth.

>>6908599
Found it. Thanks man! I'll make good use of these.

>>6908396
Nice studies. But I dropped jujutsu kaisen two years ago because I hate the art. When you do studies, I think about how the artist is drawing/constructing. It's especially helpful if you get to see unfinished drawings. How did they approach it?

>>6908414
It looks like you're drawing circles and doing what you think is constructing the head, but you have no concept of proportions yet. It's cool if you want to keep drawing alucard etc, but try doing some observational drawings/still life drawings/bargue plates to get your accuracy up. You would benefit from drawing copies of Alucard art, even. Aim for exactness, you just need to observe better at this point.

>>6908432
Love this

>>6908447
doubt this will be helpful but
https://youtu.be/B5tU2PuRdU8?si=xeM9g75ZtHp3SRm8&t=3000

>>6908515
Mm, given where you're at I wouldn't fret rendering too much right now. Have you been practicing gradients and values with still life, etc?

couple of studies from the previous thread

>>6908658
God damn

>>6908658
Here to demoralize begs? Beautiful work.
What's that texture brush you used on her uniform?

I haven't drawn seriously for years, is it as easy as just jumping back into it? Or should I redo the fundamentals?

>>6908625
I've been practicing still lifes in gouache and it's working much better than the pencil rendering, which makes me think it doens't translate very well between different mediums. I did some gradients in pencil, pen and prismacolor, and it looks ok comparing to a value scale I printed, but it doesn't seem to be translating to my value studies as well.

Also, what would you recommend studying before I worry about rendering again?

>>6908678
Jump back into it by applying the fundamentals.

>>6908681
The physical technique of gouache and graphite are pretty different. Do still life drawings with graphite and strictly limit yourself to 5 values. If you want to get better with graphite you need more mileage with it.

But are you trying to work on portraits right now? I would stick with limiting your values and pumping out more portrait practice for the time being. The work you posted isn't terrible but I think you're drawing a few of the features exactly the same across all 3 heads. Most evident with the lips, etc. Trying to focus on rendering more might be muddying the form too. Do you have the refs?

>>6908678
Yes to this >>6908683

>>6908658
Nice. Why the red tint in the shadow? For fun?

>>6908460
Good. So there should be no distractions when you're drawing

>>6908702
I see, thank you! Will try some still lifes in graphite. Here are the references I used. My sketches look nothing like it, and I know it's a lousy excuse but I didn't focus on getting it right because the point of the assignment was to study the value composition.

>>6908710

>>6908711

I really like this style

does anyone want a redline
im bored

>>6908745
Legs arent going anywhere, shoulders are misshapen, head/face isn't even there and hips look like crap.
Good luck trying to make sense out of this shit.

Some more of my old doodles.

>>6908560
Small, perky booba are my favorite. I don't think I'm ready to tackle big ol' hentai tiddies yet

Hi /beg/
took up daily practice sketching again about a week ago after finding a sketchbook from feb 2016 full of crummy /beg/ sketches
struggling to motivate myself to draw the whole woman once I've done the part that interests me, especially since I can't draw a face worth a damn

>>6908674
>demoralised instead of inspired
peak NGMI mentality

Drawing animals is relaxing. The stakes are lower than with humans. I think I might try to add a "drawing animals" block to my everyday routine.

>>6908796
I was refering to begs specifically.

got some ideas, will work tomorrow

>>6908797
Genius. I will draw some birds today.

>Practice
>art gets worse

I still can't make good line art. kill me. Going back to basics again I guess.
Lately I can't even construct basic anime girls.

How do you draw this angle without it looking fucked?

>>6908658
Damn
Impressive

>>6908876
Too focused on lines which dont exists.

>>6908876
Go construct bro, stop drawing symbols.

I'm not making it

>>6908889
>>6908922
NTA but where's the symbol issue here?
The most glaring issues, imo, is the chin/neck combo isn't at the right perspective, as the nose.
Aside from that it's not so bad.

>Make a slit for the mouth, detailing the opening itself, not the lips
>Try to detail the lips, to avoid doing it anime style
>The face suddenly had some massive nigga lips
Dammit, I'm tired of this, I can't wrap my head around it

>>6908963
there is no 3-dimensionality, imagine writing letters, or symbols, on a flat page

Alright so got tired again as it's late so I am calling quits on this, though I'll try drawing her again maybe tomorrow or later, either way, figured I should just post her so I can figure out what to do next time I draw her.

I struggled with getting the eyes to wrap around the 3D head as well as the blush marks. Originally I was just going to draw her head but then decided to attempt to draw her shoulders and such, but didn't really go very far (but I will next time I attempt to draw her).

I couldn't have drawn something like this weeks ago, this was a mixture of reference with a little bit of imagination.

>>6908876
Just move the features up, especially the eyes and brows. Don't forget the perspective affects the whole face.

>>6908876
I think the difference is in the chin-neck area

>>6908625
I was going to say that I did copy a picture of Alucard only to realize it wasn't an official drawing from Hirano.
Oops. But the Baki below him was a copy from a still of the show.

If spatial imagination can be enhanced by drawing cubes, then what kind of exercise should be used to improve automatic proportion keeping?

Over time I have been trying to relearn shading. How am I doing?

>>6909008
you're amazing, anon wtf

>>6909021
>No horsecock bulge
Cringe.

>>6909008
>>6908995
I see, thanks.
I wasn't too focused on the neck area in this study, I mainly did it to attempt the foreshortened facial features and their placements.

I never even would have thought to just move the features up, even though that seems so obvious.

>>6908417
An attempt was made

>>6909042
I love the pointy nose. The queen from Ousama Ranking has awakened that in me.

Doing a trad tattoo style portrait for a friend as a gift but feel like it just looks off? Been painting with inks just over 1 year

>>6909064
that's a very long time to spend on one picture

>>6909066
:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Please consider a career in comedy

>>6908974
You seem to have the the same problem as me, where your torso just ends up as a symbol without perspective

makes me wanna kms

>>6909077
Well that’s because the torso was barely drawn, that might be why it looks like muh symbole

That being said next time I draw her I’m gonna make sure her torso has form.

>>6909017
Then you need to keep working on your copies. Overlay the ref with your linework and check to see how you're off. Make a feedback loop for yourself

>tfw trace proompted art and no one has noticed yet
>it's been 2 months

>>6909094
You must be very proud.

>>6909094
The only one you're cheating is yourself, why would I care?

>tfw draw normally and no one has noticed yet
>it's been 2 years

>>6909069
>>6909064
Have you considered orienting it upright?

>>6908369
Horrifying

Some heads.
For once I tried without reference or loomis construction.
Considering this, what do you think?

>>6908876

Alright, Round 2.

Already I can tell this is looking better. I followed your advice and raised the facial features, as well as better constructed the chin and neck to give better form to that area. I still am only focusing on the foreshortening of the face, but now hopefully the whole skull reads a little better.

But I think I hit a roadblock and that's all the progress there's left in me for now.

>>6909112
How's this?

>>6909160
isnt the ear very high up?

if I'm trying to draw a naked woman and I found a reference with a pose I really liked but the issue is the reference has clothing on, what would be the best thing to do? Should I try to use the reference anyway and just try my best to guess what it should look like if she didn't have clothing on or should I just find another ref that's closer to what I'm going for?

>>6909166
post the reference

Im kinda losing faith in myself, bros.
My art doesnt seem to get better and i dont know how to practice anymore, Depression is killing me.

I got one commission, some anon believed in me and i delivered but now i dont feel so confident anymore..

>>6908674
Thanks, it's just some random hard bristle brush I made, I think I over textured the whole thing though.

>>6908702
happy accident

here's the last one from the previous thread

>>6909169
Don't post your work so that someone might actually help, just write us a pity baiting blog post.

>>6909172
>I think I over textured the whole thing though.
Maybe the statue thingy, it was appropriate for the uniform imo

>>6909150
good job with the edit anon, you're gmi

>>6909167
the woman thing was just an example I used. I was wondering which option is better in general

>>6909172
How do you paint freely with your brushstrokes without ruining things you've already painted? I'd love to learn that painterly method, it's beautiful and so is your work

drawing old men is kinda fun actually

>>6909160
some facial proportions are a little off, I'll see if I can improve using liquify
>>6909169
> some anon believed in me and i delivered but now i dont feel so confident anymore
that's me every comm

deciding colors now.

>>6909163
Yess you're right the lobe should be more in line with the bottom of the nose
>>6909179
That would be amazing, thank you, I've looked at it so long it doesn't even look human to me anymore

>>6909094
Post the trace

>>6909173
Ok, I wanted to make a silly halloween image.

>>6909056
yeah people love it or hate it, but it wouldnt be the character anymore without it so it is what it is.

>>6909199
here bro, I tried my best to keep the original art intact

>>6909228
how did u get a commission? also study harder, i can tell youve been drawing for a while cus your lines are decent but ability=/=knowledge, you could have the most dexterous hands in the world but if you dont know what lines go where its pointless. im guessing you probably slowed down your own improvement by getting lazy with the studies because you wanted to see what completed works you could finish, and in your mind, you probably tricked yourself into thinking what you drew is better than it is, which causes stagnation

>>6909242
I always have problems with construction + perspective. Nothing looks "good". I scrap like 10 drafts before something starts to look remotely decent.

>>6909243
man I'm too lazy to redraw shit if I think it doesn't look good

>>6908433
I like your top left. Use a ref. for that, or was that imagination? Either way, there's a pleasant simplicity to it and it feels like overall just the right amount of detail was left out.

I decided to risk it all and move to an area that offers life drawing classes every day of the week. I've been drawing models for at least 3 hours every day for a few months now and have been really seeing myself progress.

I know this drawing isn't perfect and I have a lot room to improve, but how would you say this 2 minute pose looks? I'd love a critique. I'm just so happy to be drawing again.

>>6909257
Looks fine, the legs read a little confusingly. Work on indicating the gesture of the hands and feet with 2 stokes each for fast poses.

>>6908755
you picked a very difficult pose bro
i know it's difficult because someone posted a photo with this pose on /ic/ a few threads back and it looked wrong, how can reality look wrong? that's how stupid this pose is
>Good luck trying to make sense out of this shit.
don't be so negative

Looks like I'll have to draw Taimanin Asagi & friends again. been neglecting the series with SENRAN kagura

>>6909243
are these drafts youre making supposed to be finished products? are u trying to put whats in your mind on paper? because thats not the goal here, the goal is to draw throwaway art constantly until it starts resembling something, once it resembles something, you throw that away too, you shouldnt expand on it. every drawing you make should be made with the intention of a click, once something clicks, its in place, this could be as simple as line placement or an aesthetic shape, now just keep doing this until you get hundreds of clicks, none of your unreferenced art is gonna look good until u get past these hurdles
>>6909247
nigger that is the whole game

>>6909277
>are these drafts youre making supposed to be finished products?
No, I have like 10 drafts of that drawing before i started making that one.
This might as well be just another draft, but yeah Im not using any reference.

>>6909257
>anon discovers strip club

>>6909279
honestly you shouldnt even be having visions of drawings at this point, it should really just be the boring gesture and anatomy practice. if you really want to draw just make weird shapes and shade them, you can also draw patterns, both of these will inadvertently help you improve your general pencil control, your line weights, your pencil pressure, and how to make visually appealing shapes (which is very very important in all aspects of art, landscapes, people, vehicles, etc) , all while not forcing you to think about much or doubt yourself, drawing people is tricky, and without the necessary knowledge it can become very overwhelming trying to complete a drawing. its like building a cabinet you got from ikea with no tools. now in this scenario the hardware store is about a couple years drive away, now go get those tools or this cabinet isnt going to get built.

>>6909257
>I decided to risk it all and move to an area that offers life drawing classes
I would shake your hand.

>>6909257
Based. Does your new city have museums too?

>>6909257
>Moves his entire house with his bare hands just to see girls naked
The absolute fucking state.

>>6909113
:(

>>6909339
Very cute anon. Work on your construction!

>>6909191
me gusta, gaussian blur on line art? there is something I don't like about the indent of the stockings, top and bottom doesn't flow.

(cast study) longest thing ive worked on and it kinda sucks lol

>>6909390
the forms are so sloppy glad i got roasted on the critique

>>6909292
What should I do then.

>>6909396
Study Michael Hampton for the next 10 years.

>>6909390
I like it, I can feel the dragging the paper, practice values by better gradients, also tone your paper first.

>>6909406
So much for help.

Day 13 of learning the basics n whatnot. More imagination doodles, more sketches from ref and a value sprinkled in. Got a little better a drawing red pandas today, but Koalas are my new filter. Overall a pretty fun day.

>>6909359
I like it when people work on their figure drawing, I think you're definitely going in the right direction. My advice for you to improve faster, is to start spending the majority of your study time copying artwork, instead of photos of nude models. Doing the "Copy Bridgman Twice" regimen would be a great idea for you, if you haven't done it already. It doesn't have to be Bridgman, but copying lines instead of photos will help you improve faster.

In the 18th century, hundreds of French students in all the art schools across France would compete in a rigorous national examination to win the Prix de Rome, a state sponsored 4 year trip to Rome. What was the purpose of moving to Rome? To study the old masters first hand. Studying the Old Masters was considered "more valuable" than drawing from life or their drawing textbooks.

Copy!

>>6909462
currently working rhythm on brigdman first pass, but I agree with you, been looking for old masters to copy or anyone whose style i like, and found albert joseph penot which from what i've seen is 1890 weeb, I want to improve my non existing core shadows.

are there any good resources on how to do cartoonish posing? I've already done a good bit of life drawing but I want to draw more stylized characters and it looks wrong when they have as reserved posing as real humans do

>>6909494
define/describe cartoonish?
europe Hergé
japanese I love @sim_kyrm and Yoshito Usui
US: walt stanchfield or anyone on the disney OG team
Latinoamerica: quino

>>6908453
The only thing stopping you from being a good artist is patience. There is no easy way other than that. The only way it wont work out for you is if you give up.
Also, dont let seeing talented artists demoralize you. You don't see the thousands of hours they spent beforehand mastering tecniques, just the end result.

>>6908453
do people really think 24 is old

Finished this page of Morpho studies. Morpho tits are depressing. Who’s the best at breasts? I need to study them afterwards so I can undo the subconscious damage to my boob-drawing ability that’s no doubt occurring with every page of this book. Gimme recommendations, please, I beg you.

>>6909549
Draw Hentai stillframes

Eris Day 2. I didn't have anywhere near the same amount of time I did yesterday due to overtime, but I attempted to work with the slim hour I had and redraw the face. I tried keeping in mind the triangles the other anon talked about which seemed to help a lot with the general shape of the face - even if its still off. She has ears now though, which is an improvement. Its still a bit off. Everything is bigger. I need to focus on proportions and measuring things out more and make certain everything actually aligns. I'll be able to grind harder tomorrow. I think I should focus on just drawing heads with proper proportions and different angles to not worry about the hair just yet for my practice before attempting another Eris head. /blog.

>>6909582
Very cool, good job. Mind posting the ref?
I need to draw more cybertech girls

>>6908326
Black soot, comes default in clipstudiopaint

>>6908876
>>6909008
>>6909150
Wanted to quickly try this as well

>>6908396
Kinda goated you have impeccable taste but
Unless you're specifically aiming to get gege's style I would recommend studying real photos etc

>>6909265
>how can reality look wrong
its not reality its a photo and photos do have distortions

>>6909455
fuck you

>>6909614
it doesn't really have particular ref. it's me messing around

>>6909731
that's some good shid, man.

do i have to embrace judaism to get good at drawing...

>>6909764
What book is this from?
And possibly, Jews are basically the sons of Belzebub. The Freemasons had an incredible understanding of sculpture and structure, and most of the masonic principles are based off the Kabbalah

>download some CSP inking brushes
>they all have heavy stabilization
is that the secret

is the 30 second (or whatever) timed sketching worth it? if yes, for how long?
this tool doesn't save view angles so it wasn't exactly what i saw

>>6909768
reilly, faragasso

It's the first time I upload something here, can you guys give your opinion? I want to improve.

>hands
I know that.

>>6909731

That's insane, i love it

>>6909801

Bedside hands and the terrible brush choice It's a good basic drawing

>>6909597
didn't redline this time but here's some changes I would make, I feel like the rest of the body is a bit too small for the head/arms/torso

Hope this helps, I really like your stuff

>>6909801
I'de work on drawing eyes and hands realistically and then stylizing them, practice drawing 3/4 view faces, that might help you out

>>6909789

Always remember: Critique your own work. At the end of the day, what you are able to recognize is wrong is so blatantly obvious that not even your ego can stop you. Once you start not noticing your own flaws, that's when outside critique can really help.
At least that is the strategy I am using, hope it isn't cope.

>>6909841
True, we all know deep down what could be better/worse about our own stuff but the amount of things we can point out changes over time as our taste and eye for things develops

>>6909828
thank you

bros... im ngmi

any advice to align pupils better so that both eyes look at the same direction? I usually just keep re-drawing the pupils I'm using to reference where I'll paint later but it can get tedious with some poses

>>6909776
30 sec should only be a warmup,

Whenever I start drawing, i literally can't make sense of something as simple as drawing hair. I can't understand 3D perspective nor make sense of it in my brain.
The biggest problem for me is literally getting up enough energy and motivation to even do this at all. Remember how I said I couldn't even play video games? It applies doubly so for artwork and doing literally any practice of this. I want to try, but I can almost never actually make myself do any of it.
I don't know why these seem so daunting. Literal 14 year old kids become masters at these all the time, and yet I can't do it for the life of me. I've never been able to actually commit myself to doing any of this. I quit SFM because I literally couldn't understand it and didn't bother watching any tutorials.
Not even mentioning the fact that reading these books is incredibly difficult for me to begin with. I don't know if I'd want to draw something that I don't want to draw, but then I don't even know what I want to draw to begin with. Just random things that I'm hyperfixating on at the moment.
m literally too retarded for basic trig. Even took a math placement test recently and fucking couldn't remember how to figure out the perimeter of a square or find the lengths of certain sides of a shape. I want to be able to do literally anything else except sitting in my room, jerking off and going to sleep. I want to give myself a year only because I've procrastinated on making my own artwork for years and years since I was a teenager. Now I'm 24 and have made no progress. I'm giving myself only a year otherwise I'm committing suicide. Because I have virtually nothing else to live for. Every time I think about how I'm unable to be an artist it only makes me more and more depressed. I want to finally become one.

>>6909876
How many faces have you drawn?
Did you use construction?

A few characters from imagination and used minimal construction. A challenge I gave myself.

what are some other good reps?

I was doing bridgeman but I think I need to refine my perspective/boxes and shit
mostly applying other boxes to them

>>6909923
Nice work, I like how you also tried to have a few unique poses and perspective in there as well

>>6909876
You can make it, you're doing fine just draw more faces, use construction lines at first and slowly phase it out as you get a feel for proportions of where eyes nose mouth ears etc land, also good work using a front facing view starting out cause you wanna master the basics using a photo before moving onto challenging perspectives, goodluck

>>6909907
One thing I found for motivation is to do copies of random stuff every other day.

That way when i look at my works there's at least part of it that isn't completely terrible and I start thinking that maybe one day I'll be able to draw this myself. It's pure cope but still works.

>>6909941
Is that Mike Stoklasa?

>>6908560
fun warm up

>>6909956
No, it's from a book I found on libgen one day. The artist's guide to expressions by Gary Faigin.

>>6909897
It comes with practice.

>>6909967
I'd like to warm up between those titties.

Before anyone points it out:

1. Yes the vanishing point was half arsed and done at the last minute after the arm was drawn.
2. I don't know how to draw fingers yet.
3. I merely applied my knowledge of perspective to this just to see what would happen.
4. Those shapes at the shoulder area are just the shoulder and armpit area shapes.
5. Yes the Vanishing Point lines were not done with a ruler I was lazy.

With that out of the way, does it look like I understand perspective? Or are these shapes somehow "symbols" or not?

>>6910055
>does it look like I understand perspective?
no

>>6910055
yeah if you ignore all the blatant perspective mistakes you definitely understand perspective?

>>6910057
>no

Okay? Care to elaborate?

Seriously, I think not elaborating your criticism is how some /beg/s end up getting annoyed.

>>6910058
Mind pointing out the blatant perspective mistakes?

I am asking for it and would love to know how to improve it.

Is it the fingers?

>>6910055
Nothing converges towards that vanishing point. It's just random lines unconnected to the cylinder arm.

>>6910064
Oh I see.

Well does the hand to the upper arm look wrong? If it does, mind explaining why it does?

>>6910055
Looks like you're learning or on the way there, try to look up "foreshortening" for hand references, might give you some good ideas to work off of, keep it up

>>6910066
I'll try to do that at some point.

I could have put some cubes or whatever that gradually get smaller behind the upper arm cylinder but I just wanted to focus on the arm.

>>6910065
The foreshortening doesn't seem strong enough but it's hard to say. And definitely use a reference for hands

I appreciate the actual critiques and not just "it looks wrong" with nothing else. Have this pumpkin I drew a bit earlier...

Also I am a bit tired of my lines looking so messy.

>>6909897
what the other anon said. you already intuitively know as a human being when eyes look wrong, as you keep going you'll tap into that more

>>6910074
please read perspective made easy

>>6910074
that pumpkin looks good, just the proportions are somewhat off, perspective wise it's good, same with the table, don't get that anon that wants you to read perspective made easy, all you need is practice and line confidence

>>6910074
>>6910094
Try to first draw a good looking circle and then put the pumpkin inside it, always start with simple shapes, that could help your proportions.

Draw 200 circles. Use your whole forearm not just your wrist

>>6910055
kek at that vanishing point, your forearm cylinder converges at a whole other point anon.. But your lines are converging, and that is a sign of at least an basic understanding of perspective so good job.

>>6908658
Who's the girl in the sailor outfit? I think Sinix used her as a ref in the past.

>>6910100
Don't know who she is but here's the ref if you want it.

>>6910055
Gonna be honest withoutreferences my perspective is kinda bunk as well, but hope this helps

>>6910100
>>6910102
Also, yeah that looks to be the same girl, now I want other photos of her
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QEGEBK6nIY&

>>6910100
Think I found her:
https://m.weibo.cn/u/2694510872?jumpfrom=weibocom
https://twitter.com/UlzzangGirl12/status/1263837831446908930?lang=zh-Hant

>>6910102
>>6908658

how can i get into painting like this? can you point my in the direction?

>>6910111
I'm not that anon and I'm nowhere near as good

>>6908432
Nice, but the close arm looks way too small. I know you might have wanted to show foreshortening but it's not pointing towards the viewer enough to be that length.

>>6910106
Thanks man, I always appreciate things like this.

>>6910097
Does drawing 200 circles really help? I do actually do warm ups where I draw ellipses.

>>6910126
Drawing enough circles makes you draw better circles try to do them in one motion

>>6910126
Try to draw a grid and draw a couple spheres on different points of the grid, aimlessly drawing circles without thinking of them in 3d space probably wont get you very far or be efficient assuming it works but yes use your forearm, rather than your wrist, it's good advice for general line quality/control but not for perspective

>>6910128
I do use my arms rather than my wrist actually.

But yeah I'll try the grid, with vanishing point right?

Also here is another study, but I am either burnt out (my sleep's been sucky lately) or I just struggle with backs cuz I really struggled with this one.

Should I just draw stuff I enjoy at this point? Or focus on getting my sleep in order so I can get to work on things better?

Also I see I failed at making the arch/tilt of the back look right.

grinding out 100 heads challenge, trying to start learning to do lineart and shading too but it's not amazing lol
but the first attempt is never good so I'll let it slide

>>6910142
dam! that little head

>>6910162
Yeah I tend to make the heads slightly too small as of late.

Lads, I think I outdid myself today.

>>6910187
Anon, You are an /int/ among /beg/s

how do I go from this to getting my art in art galleries

>>6910229
Do you happen to have well-connected millionaire friends? I've seen worse in Tate.

>>6910229
>how do I go from this to getting my art in art galleries
Make up bullshit meaning for your art, become friend with a "collector" looking for a new grift.

>>6909664
Nicely done! You preserved the "cuteness" well. Your first attempt looks way better than mine lol

I want to finish it but I don't know how to continue

No I won't paint hands

>>6910332
no, sir

>>6910334

>>6909582
Kino

>>6908560
I like to draw 'em a little bit saggy.

took a break from studying heads all morning and doodled this

>>6910278
the logical follow up would be doing actual line art part, because thats a rough sketch at best.

From there on out you can just either leave it at that or paint it? I dunno what you aim for.

>>6910233
>>6910237
here are some more things ive painted

>>6910415
Incredible work, Anon. You did this pose so much justice.

>>6910415
You know I regulary smash rats and mice in my cellar with bricks, one time I smashed a female mouse and little fetuses came exploding out

>>6910473
I did the same when I was still living on the family farm, they ate the food for our animals so my parents encouraged the behavior.

>>6910472
thanks, not sure why you deleted it. If you have other interesting+unique butt poses ill take them off your hands

>tell myself I'll draw today
>grab reference
>draw random bullshit instead
Truly I am a free spirit, unbound.
At least it was kind of fun.

>>6910520
Onward to The Next Episode.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nL2HPPHdPAA

>>6908360
Big noses

>>6910478
Now we know how the jews in Israel feel about the palestinians.

BASED!

>>6910509
Original post got removed for going against board rules, but here is another butt pose

>>6910213
You mean mid-/beg/ or actual /int/? I don't really believe in the latter desu.

>>6910566
>no question
>no asking for critique
>shameless attention seeking
>western attempt at anime trash
>attempt at fiding own """style"""" which is just a low beg abomination of anime style
>making it look retarded on "purpose" because he is physically incapable of drawing anything that looks good cute or authenthic
>tries to seek attention and praise from a bunch of autistic begtards with the artistic skill level of 6 year olds


congratulations, now fuck off back to r*ddit or twitter or your tranny discord or wherever the fuck you came from

>>6910587
Hes been posting here for like 7+ years and is by far the lowest quality poster. Compare his old stuff and its identical to everything he posts now. He used to flood the thread with 20+ images at a time though but recently I noticed he posts a lot on other boards/threads(he might genuinely believe he is too good for /beg/ now)

What should I do when my brain becomes addict to drawing shit fast without even finishing to learn fundamentals yet? I have tourette syndrome and somehow everything that includes using my hands annoys me when I'm not putting violence onto it. Although I need to calm down, try to learn from ref, etc etc, my minds seems a lot more turned on when I put my hands on auto.

>>6910620
Try painting

>>6910620
>tourette
doubt

look within, you know what to do. Calm your mind. Study the books, pay close attention. I know this is hard for you zoomer brains, especially the american ones since they allow smartphones and whatnot in your classes and make you pass math because of retarded niggers in class, but please, just read or watch the vilppu course and stop being a retard.


If you truly can't do it just become one of those memelords that put a paint bucked on a pendulum ontop a canvas and make it do the funny lines on it and shut up

Hello beg. Yesterday i failed and didnt draw. It is over. Luckily i dont have any gains in pain with pencil to lose so it is less over than usual.

>>6910466
honestly i consider museums with "modern art" as garbage. That top middle pic could be right there with other contemporary art. Now to give you some actual advice: learn how to draw (and render) with pencil / charcoal first and foremost. First it is way cheaper and faster to use (no cleaning brushes, no mixing paint), secondly there is no space to hide behind "its my style" cope. Do book Keys to drawing. Now that wont put you closer to art galleries, but at least you will actually learn how to draw which will come handy in painting
>>6910415
except its nose i kneel
>>6909907
keys to drawing
>sitting in my room, jerking off and going to sleep
forget that, fix your life first. Set up alarm to wake up in the morning, start doing sport (walking, swimming, calisthenics, sauna) and consider getting part time job. Limit fapping to once per three days
>>6909876
keep drawing, you are on right path, you just needs mileage
>>6909750
looks very wonky at places. mona lisa?
>>6909494
Jack Hamm Cartooning the Head and Figure
Famous Artists Cartoon Course
Preston Blair Cartoon Animation with Preston Blair Revised
You could also say loomis heads are cartoons, there are also 999 books about asian cartoons (anime)
>>6909228
seems pretty competent to me. dont let your depression win, get a tan, eat some vitamine D and zinc supplements and start intensive cardio sport ala running. As to what study thats easy: color, rendering, shading, line weight
>>6909133
some of them have eyes in 3/4 of skull. otherwise you mog me
>>6909021
okay value range, shades forced to show form, doing well i say
>>6909019
proportions come either from observation (i see i draw): practice drawing from ref and sight measure a lot
OR they come from knowledge (eyes are always in half of skull, leg is tall 4 heads): study the subject you draw ala anatomy?

>>6908360
test

>If you truly can't do
It's not like I can't do. It's more like having something on my mind uring me to stop being slow and calm and mashing whatever my brain comes from without any mercy. It does happen with everything that includes using my hands. When I'm working, I type strongly on keyboard, I type random stuff from time to time, annoying my colleagues, for example.
I think it should be fine when I'm sketching, but I fear when I get to try more precise lines in future.
>>6910630
I considered trying sketching silhouettes instead of lines to see how it'd go, but it feels like cheating.

>>6910639
How autistic are you? Do you really think you're gonna get good at art by drawing weird boomer faces 1:1 from the book? At least apply your own style to his teachings and draw your own faces on it, he even encourages you to do it my god.

Unironically, what is wrong with you?

>>6910639
So this is the power of construction...

>>6910332
>>6910334
>>6910335
they look good aside from their forearms and hands. paint the fucking hands trust me

>>6909455
Good job anon. Keep going. How long are you drawing each day?

>>6910111
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLduTm-6qug7U3-D6c5JeLjXZ8fCeET7Mu&si=KqCAULLHX8I3TWpB

In desperate need of critique. Any resources I could use for studying anatomy and proportion would be greatly appreciated.

>>6910641
A good exercise is trying to draw with the least amount of lines possible.
Think of it as grammar, the more lines you have the more words you got and the page.
However your statement will ring more true if you use less to say more, because ultimately lines don’t really exist they are just boundaries between color shapes.
When you put a line you tell the viewer here is a divide, any line is a pretty powerful statement of its own, using too many will make for a cluttered suffocating feeling as if you were trying to shut people in an overcrowded space, you might wanna study animation for that, making many drawings while trying to keep your line economy as austere as it gets so you can get to the next key drawing

>>6910708
you don't need anatomy, you need keys to drawing. and some pressing so hard

>>6910708
>>6910716
what this anon said, if not Keys to drawing, then just looking very very carefully. The prerequisite to 3d construction from imagination is 2d shape drawing from observation. You can't learn form if you can't see shape

Betty Edwards is often recommended more outside of this board btw

>>6910716
Pressing?

>>6910735
They meant
>stop pressing so hard

Day 14 of learning the basics n whatnot. Besides the usual i've been doing, I started to practice more lineart/lineweight. My lines are still wobbly and It's pretty hard, but i'm glad I'm practicising it more. Also tried to get out of my comfort zone by trying to do a simple value practice with this Skull in a cloak thing, but I ditched it because I didn't know what the heck I was doing, so I went back to basic stuff like Vases/Basic Shapes. Snakes are still really hard to draw. Overall pretty good day

>>6910685
I pretty much draw through out the whole day. draw for a few hours, take a break, then draw again.

>>6910754
dang, looks like I deleted some of a value study in that pic. oh well

So I like to worldbuild in my spare time, I made up a race for a setting I am writing and decided to draw some art of it to help put an image to my imagination. I tried to post it on /lit/ but posters there thought poorly of the art

My only experience with digital art is tracing Ben 10 OCs from when I was a teenager

I'm wondering what I can do to improve. Right now all I use is paint.net and I just take images of characters I think are cool and trace over them. The images here are all just made by tracing one side and flipping it over

I don't have a drawing tablet or anything like that, if that helps.

Month 2 Day 18 of learning, finally completed my first full creation from imagination/references, took 5 days but it was a lot of fun

Obviously there's a bunch of room for improvement but I think what I did produce was OK!

>>6910762
here's other pics I traced

>>6910763
keep it up

>>6910754
You're the only one in these threads whos gmi

>>6910763
gj m8

>>6910334
these are great but you need more colour imo. especially in the shadows they kind of feel like they're smeared with graphite with how flat gray they are

>>6910767
my wife Luna

>>6910450
what's her name?

>>6910807
it's Medusa from Soul Eater

>>6910775

>>6910770
Dumb retard

>>6910820
Ew wtf

>>6910849
The word retard literally already means dumb you fucking imbecile

>>6910882
Being mentally impaired doesn't automatically make you dumb. You dumb illiterate retard.

>>6910889
Kys faggot eat a dick

Is grindan in hopes some female drawfag will notice you, effective? Personally the implication of possible affection has really instilled in me that discipline to draw everyday. I'm 90% sure she doesn't even like me, I'm seriously banking on that if I get good she'd talk to me. Or am I just terminally lonely, and have just deluded myself to an unachievable goal?

>>6910764
>>6910762
anyone?

I know it looks pretty crap but I'm not really sure where to get started on improving

>>6910639
>He thinks people read these

>>6910770
i'm gonna make it too

>>6910960
First of all, get a drawing tablet. Drawing with a mouse is too limiting. Wacom, Huion or XP-Pen brands are all fine. Medium sized or larger. Small ones are bad for your wrist. They're pretty affordable these days. Buy a used one if you have to, a lot of them will have only been used a couple of times.
Tracing is a crutch. You will only get better at tracing, not drawing. When you start drawing without tracing your drawings will look worse but you'll have to push through this if you want to get better in the long run. Replace tracing stuff you like with copying stuff you like.
Mirroring the drawing will always look strange because things are naturally never perfectly symmetrical, so I wouldn't advise doing that. Just draw both sides, it's tricky at first and more work but it's a skill you need to develop.

You almost never want to use fully saturated colors like those and they don't work well together. Watch these videos to see how to choose colors that work together.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfE4E5goEIc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxpzbWqO9ds

>>6910991
To be honest when I draw with a mouse I use the line tool on Paint.net and then manipulate the four points. I always felt that I could make smooth lines with them. Is the tablet really necessary?

You have a good point on stopping the tracing and mirroring. I guess I never wanted to leap out the comfort zone.

It's still a good idea to use references for things like proportions though right?

>>6910991
Also shit that gamut masking thing looks pretty cool and simple. Literally just a colour wheel with a shape cut out of it? Pretty clever, I never knew about that

>>6910916
Cute
I suggest making the pose less stiff, sty to draw from a line of action

>>6910229
Be an Austrian on welfare.

>>6911001
Kind of depends on the end result you want. Does the art you like and want to make have clean lines? If you want smooth lines then using the line tool with a mouse isn't the worst approach as long as it's not too tedious for you. You don't have to use a tablet but most of the digital art you like was probably made using one. Using a drawing tablet is a lot more intuitive for most people but requires a lot of practice to get clean lines. You can use brush stabilization to help, it's built in to most art software these days. The pressure sensitivity also lets you create different types of lines.

One downside with the line tools is a that the lines are all uniform in thickness giving it what some may find a sterile or boring look. Clip Studio Paint has vector tools has useful features for artists. The line width correction tool can change the thickness of the lines so that you can get thick and thin lines without a pressure sensitive tablet. Also the vector eraser tool so you can draw overlapping lines and just cleanly erase over the lines that stick out, which can save a lot of time.
https://tips.clip-studio.com/en-us/articles/1255

Not familiar specifically with paint.net features but it may have similar tools.

Yeah references for proportions is fine. Referencing for anything is perfectly fine. It's tracing that is a bad habit. You can trace after trying to copy it first or overlay it to help see where you went wrong too.

>>6910960
- drawing with a mouse is fine, you might want to switch to a software that supports stabilization if you find your lines too unreliable, Krita is a free alternative that is a bit more advanced than paint.net.

- stop using the line tool for most things and start using more brush tool. Yes, it's harder but everything having a fixed line weight gives a stiff and unappealing look. try to use more tapering lines by either building or cutting into the lines.

- Mirrored drawings tend to look cheap. It's fine to have references but straight up tracing is probably something you want to move away from.

- try to pick up some basics on shading to move your characters past just a flat fill color.

- learn basic figure drawing / construction to get more dimensionality

What are we thinking boys

>>6911088
complete and utter garbage
you are trying to achieve something while lacking the tools required
your lines are shit. relationships are nonexistent. there are no forms, no planes. no light and shade. the proportions are wrong. no usage of the concept of action. and you havent constructed the basic structure of the figure.
practice without the tools needed for the practice is pointless. you are on the train to nowhere. doing this will get you nowhere.
you first need the tools. which i have listed for your convenience in my post.

>>6911099
why is this post so harsh in particular? ouch.

because the truth hurts

>>6911088
i'm thinking I really like the shapes you used to simplify the body/limbs. very nice

Is mikey mega‘s construction method good?
So far I find it way easier to use than the box stuff

>>6911099
what the fuck is wrong with you?
pyw crab
>>6911104
he's a fucking crab nodraw

>>6911099
Remember when the people who post such harsh critiques actually posted their own work too?
Me neither

>>6911117
>>6911123
>pyw
what i said has nothing to do with my own work, it has solely to do with the work to which i replied.
either address the points i made or ignore them in denial and be on your way on the train to nowhere.

>>6911129
>your lines are shit
they aren't they're quite appealing
>relationships are nonexistent
you're blind or don't know what you're talking about
>there are no forms
there are
>no planes
there are
>no light and shade
there is
>the proportions are wrong
not in a way that detracts from the drawing
>no usage of the concept of action
There is it's just lacking and you aren't able to elaborate on how
>you havent constructed the basic structure of the figure.
good, nobody who can draw constructs shit
now pyw crab

i dont know what a crab in this context is and furthermore i firmly believe youre a gay faggot and not worth talking to any longer

>>6911134
well, at least you saved your weird newfag seethe for after autosage

>>6911129
LMAO
bitch.

it is in fact you who are the bitches for assigning validity to points made based on anonymous work instead of critical investigation of those points.
you are bitches and you are not going to make it, that is for sure.

>>6911142
PYW or shut. the fuck. up.
Bitch.

bitch
loser
train. to. fucking. nowhere.

>>6911099

At first I was why aggro,

but you just spilling autogenerated words without reason.

>Decide to stalk a few of my followers to see what else they're into
>All the bookmarks except mine are hardcore loli porn

Why???

>>6911159
Do you draw anything that can be considered cute?

>>6911166
And/or funny?

new
>>6911248
>>6911248

>>6909265
Thanks a lot for your correction, anon.
>Difficult pose
I have heard that full-frontal poses are hard, why?
Do you mind if I use your drawing as reference.

>>6910820
Nice!