/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Draw this.

VELVET CROWE no relations to Russell Crowe; The Pope's Exorcist.

>>6904256
tomorrow

>>6904256
>getting a refreshing drink after er typing "Loomis is a hack"

>>6904256
>getting your refreshing drink after your daily 20 featureless loomis heads

I’m still not drawing.

>>6904326
very nice

looking for resources on basic inking and coloring on a computer with a mouse

Do not feed ^

>>6904256
sure
I think this is the first male I've ever drawn in a really really long time

dtiys

fuggin hate everything

>>6904571

>>6904571
25y,1h

>>6904326
Going to keep working on this one? I like your designs, would be cool to see it rendered out a bit more

>>6903614
Ego. Lose it. Learning a language or any other skill is the same. You are shit before you are better. It's okay that you aren't a pro right now.

day 99
hm this came out way worse than the ruby i did yesterday

>>6904578
Yeah, you're an old man better stop learning to draw at this point.

My workflow is bad and wrong and I don't know how to start a render at all
what the fuck is step fuckin 1 after I'm satisfied with a sketch

can any girl here let me do this to her

I’m trying to to create a sense of scale, is there anyway I can fix this?

>>6904706
Im trying to do something like this from blade runner

>>6904610
How do I lose ego?

akosdhiasghiupagsdfiojadps

>>6904677
That's disgusting and weird anon.

>>6904670
Workflow may not be the problem, show us your sketch pre-render. Did you at least mark the core shadows on the form?

>>6904706
Where's the other subject you're trying to show scale contrast against? You have depth readability problems (her back foot is slightly larger than the foot in front).

You both need to provide diagnosable examples for your specific questions.

>>6904719
>>6904706
You could steal the composition from your reference, i.e. crop the top half off (goodbye feet) so she's coming off-canvas, appearing bigger. Then, move your other subject in further (or extend the canvas bottom-right) like in the reference, to establish it as a focal point.

>>6904723
When I first started learning Chinese, the thing that our professor told us that always stuck with me is that when you learn a new language, you're a baby. Babies don't care what other people think of them. They just explore and learn. They copy others as exactly as they can. You need to understand that you are, and need to be, a baby right now.

With both language learning and art, getting too deep into the theory too early in your growth is useless. You can't do anything with it yet. Get your fundamental skills down so you can start doing more fun stuff, aka drawing things that are closer to what you envision in your mind.


Copy, learn. Don't worry about if you're not good enough, babies don't give a shit.


If you want to read more about dropping your ego go read Marcus Aurelius, unironically.

>>6904786
When I say copy, learn - I don't mean study without direction. Definitely go through the fundamentals. Observational drawing, form and perspective, figure, construction, etc. And give yourself projects that you're interested along the way. What I mean is don't get bogged down in theory too much in the beginning. Don't stress over which is the absolute best class or path for you. You'll figure it out more a little later down the road. You just need to keep going and be consistent right now. That's literally all that matters. Any skill is hard and unfun in the beginning, because you're frustrated. You can't make what you want to make. But that will pass if you keep going.

>>6904786
>>6904802
ni dui. ni ye hen cong ming

Hello beg, please end my permabegness suffering. Also to the anon who keeps repeating the REILY method in every single thread: post a link to whatever you mean by that. Also fuck my life, my last comm try two wasnt liked. REEEEEEEEE

>>6904740
as i see somebody is enjoying better drugs
>>6904706
you literally make objects appear big by simply putting downscaled objects next to them which are easy to recognize and are typically way larger. Just look at the ref you posted and draw it like that. A person which is as big as her finger
>>6904670
watch some pros timelapses. just type into youtube
>timelapse krita painting
pick whatever and see what they do and dont do
>>6904616
when doing render studies dont put them on white background, always use some darker gray color otherwise it skews how we see the image to the worse
>>6904571
i know that feel, in fact i feel it right now!
>>6904454
>Alphonso Dunn Pen and Ink Drawing
>Arthur L. Guptill Rendering in Pen and Ink
>Gary Martin The Art of Comic Book Inking
>>6904326
i feel like you want background to have a different hue though i cannot deny like this it also has its own charm

Day 10 of learning the basics n whatnot. Wasn't able to draw that much today, but i managed to still get some practice in. Did simple value stuff(that cups handle filtered the hell out of me), sketches, and finished proko's rhino line weight exercise. Even tried to apply line weight to a little frog doodle.

>>6904848
>please end my permabegness suffering
You can only end it by stopping it with the books. You've been at it for well over a year. Take off the training wheels.

>>6904471

>>6904891
He hasn't even used the training wheels properly, the books aren't the problem. Look at the way he's using the sphere construction, and then rarely going past the sphere construction. Surely someone has pointed this out before, but I wouldn't be surprised of people didn't actually pay attention to 'studies' Pawell posts.

>>6904926
ahahaha they're so hilarious I couldn't stop laughing. when I finally did I saw that he wrote
>the pretty girl
omfg my sides
I can't decide if 1,2 is my favourite or 7,3
holy shit I can't stop laughing

>>6904745
>sketch shadows
Not precisely.
I also had hoped that the reference image would give me enough information to block values with.
>>6904848
Time lapses feel like they overload me with information, maybe I could try them again now that I'm more practiced.

>>6904571

>>6904578

I'm pic related, you're 6 years off.

>>6904926
Kek, needs more Loomis

>>6904326
Needs highlights

>>6904948
IMO try to find a reference with simpler lighting at a similar angle. Yours has a bunch of ambient/reflected lighting you're not quite grasping and your values are too light or too dark in places.

A few obvious points:
You've made the reflected lighting under the brow the same as the highlight above, it's much darker.
Value under nose should be darker.
You have a very bright area just left of the mouth which doesn't make sense.
You could merge that area and the cheek with one large shadow shape, or at least enlarge the cheek's shadow, play with it.

Check out how Bauman has grouped the side-plane of the face with part of the muzzle and lips using just one shadow shape:
https://youtu.be/J9te8gL30Dw
Also at around 5:00 he emphasized the core shadow.

>>6904471

Didnt use a reference, so as usual it ends up hella stiff and wonky. Oh well

>>6904711
>fat
>depressed
Oh well no wonder, then. Of course you don’t feel motivated to do art, Anon. No matter how well you draw. You’re depressed, silly. Good news is depression and obesity are actually easy to fix. Well, simple to fix. For the next 30 days (it’ll start working sooner, within the week) I want you to do this:
>eat literally ONLY FATTY RED MEAT and salt to taste
>do not eat literally ANYTHING else except prescribed meds
>drink ONLY pure water
>drink literally nothing else

Talk to your doctor about monitoring any meds you take as you will probably need them to lower the dosage, especially if you’re on anything like insulin, metformin, painkillers, or blood pressure meds.

If you’re caffeine dependent, then detoxing from caffeine might suck too much along with everything else, so you might want to take low dose caffeine pills to stave off headaches. Caffeine pills are preferable to drinking coffee in this case, because you’re doing an elimination diet. But if you’re only an occasional coffee drinker, you can try stopping cold turkey.

Do that and your depression will go away.
It’ll just not be there anymore
Try it.
If I’m wrong, you can kill yourself just to spite me if you want. But REALLY try it exactly as described for at least 30 days. You’ll feel it start working before then, but give it the full 30 days at least to assure yourself it’s not placebo. Then you can begin slowly adding back one animal-based food at a time, every couple weeks if you want — like eggs or chicken or butter — and see how you do. But start off as strict as you can for the fastest result.

That instinct whispering that life shouldn’t be this way, that it can be different if you only knew how? It’s right. You can do it, Anon.

>t. put treatment-resistant suicidal depression in complete remission for 5 years and counting with a carnivore diet. Plus other neat stuff including losing about 100 pounds of fat and gaining about 12 pounds of muscle.

>>6904984
OK this is really helpful anon thank you

>>6904698
Use chatGPT or ClaudeAI as a tool to help you flesh out the writing and the big chunky idea things.

Go through Brent Eviston’s or Proko’s beg course and then instead of copying Bridgman twice, copy your show’s art books or screenshots from each episode or whatever. Do the drawings from reference and then again from memory. Copy the art you want to emulate just like repeating words in a language you want to learn.

>>6905022
cute

>>6905022
gay

>>6904471
I am not even going to bother with the face. 30 minutes drawing and redrawing this misshapen piece of shit.

WIP psylocke before inking it. Let's see how it goes. Any other place I should add some detail?

>>6905058

>>6905058
Eyes aren't correct. One could be but whichever one you pick the other is not. I don't envy you for this decision because I have trouble with the drawing if I do this.

>>6905097
You have no idea how many eyes I drew to get to here.

I'm willing to fix them but what exactly is off? is there a drawing reference you could point me to.

>>6905036
*Lesbian

>>6905107
nta but maybe just moving the right one down and closer like this. changed the lip too

>>6905111
ofc

>>6905112
Now I see what you mean, thanks anon.

I'll fix that.

>>6905107

>>6905145
If you change her right eye the outer face would need to be changed too making more work so I'd try to keep her right eye and change the left. But really, I think her right eye should be changed even if it means more work. Try to use tracing paper to grid her face contours out evenly starting with the center line. Maybe a different anon can help. This error cripples me I'm no good at it if I don't nail it the first time.

>>6905162
I love you. Great shape design and gesture.

practicing some quick sketch. thicker brush felt a bit more fun to use

Hey guys! Check out this chain I drew!
>>6904256
Maybe later…
>>6904258
I want moar of your art. You’re one of my favorite artists on /ic/ and one of my favorites generally. Do you have a blog so I can get my fix?
>>6904326
Sick. I think you should make the sword more glowy. I see the green reflected light on the surroundings, but the sword itself doesn’t appear luminous enough to produce all that light. Again, this is fuckin sick brah
>>6904571
Her face isn’t bad, and faces alone are like 50% to 80% of gitting gud
>>6904677
Without condoning or condemning, I understand
>>6904740
Neat effect, this looks like a microscope slide
>>6904779
This is excellent advice
>>6904786
This is also fucking excellent advice
>>6904848
Oh, these are a hell of a lot better than the last ones I saw from you. Good job!
>>6904871
Very impressive, especially good job on the line weight!
>>6904911
I can never get a hard aliased 1px brush to look anywhere near this decent
>>6905000
Great job, worthy of trips
>>6905001
Not too bad. What exactly is the story here? Why’s this guy tweaking some some suicidal chick’s nipple?
>>6905022
Cute
>>6905048
You tried, though, and you’re better for it. That’s more than most can say. You also drew a bit of background to give the post some context in space, which is again more than most do. Don’t be so hard on yourself, anon.
>>6905093
Aside from what others pointed out, this looks really goddamn good. Her arm should maybe be slightly thicker and closer to her body at the armpit, but that’s about it. Basically a fatter armpit that would make her arm seems closer to her side at the top.
>>6905162
Lovely. The line where her right buttcheek meets her outer thigh seems like it might be a little bit off in a way that I don’t know how to articulate. Kind of like a bad implant or something. I dunno. Maybe it’s perfectly fine to be there and it’s just a little too long or something. But I’m not sure and could be totally wrong.

>>6905176
Good job. I especially like the shorthand you used for the feet and the perspective of his head. I think you did a great job of his shins/calves, too. That’s always a weird part for me.

>>6905240

>>6905308
>>6905240
Didn't mean to reply.

mass repliers are subhuman

they are when I don't get a you

>originally think lineart is about getting the perfect looking stroke in your first go
>watch some artists i like
>for their lineart, they just place down quick lines then go over them to thicken the parts they want
>even erasing to get the right shape
I think I'm starting to understand, bros

>>6904743
Weird sure but disgusting?

is this *the* corel painter? like the one with the really nice brush engine

>>6905355
I could never get used to painter but yeah, the brushes are amazing. That's cheap as fuck, grab it.

>>6905328
but thats bad

>>6905359
ur bad

>>6905360
im just here to tell you its bad, if you do it anyway and become a worse artist than you could be otherwise then thats on you

>>6905361
i'm gonna be the king of artists, kid

samefag

>>6905356
sick

This is what happens when you only draw from imagination for years, i struggle wtih copying simple references lmao

>>6905238
i like your sketching style

>>6905308
you just straight up gave up on the legs didn't you, top half looks decent though

>>6905328
well it is nicer if you get it in one stroke but no need to torture yourself with taking 5 mins on one line, just do whatever workds for you

>no redline thread
why has this board forsaken me

>>6905410
There was some really bitter crabbing on redlineanon last time, I don't blame him for not wanting to keep up the general.

>>6904848
please study this pawel https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/basic-head-structure-building-blocks-41ced1d0f8d84ddcaea40afddf607d5e

>>6905410
Someone call for a hero?

I'm here to help, along with my trusty partner, ReD MoAi >>6905099

Using boxes to construct characters has genuinely made my drawings even worse
I honestly don‘t really see the point of using them

>>6905448
marketing gimmick and crab advice
nobody does it

>>6905447
>>6905162
moved the head forward for the neck

>>6905460

>>6905460
Does seem like many artists just draw some quick contours and then refine the anatomy
Dunno if that‘s actually a smart way to do it but personally that works better

>>6905465
what did i say?

>>6905464
>>6905447
you're actually redlining? I thought you were joking
Can you redline this for me sensei?
>>6904677
the arm holding the phone looks so wrong but idk why

>>6905402

>>6905486
Thank you so much

>>6904471
is this ai?

>>6905483
Fear not citizen

>>6905514
so it's basically all in the hand?
also lmao

>>6905518
Yep a little bit on the arm foreshortening as well but that's what it looks like, from what I can see only minor changes/less is more and all that I hope this looks right, anyone else is also free to chime in if you think the suggestions are off >>6904677

>>6905490 Happy help my friend,

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>>6905527
Your art is so good
How would you fix this one?

>>6905571
Please consider drawing Moai heads in the moai thread lol hope this helps

>>6905624
Thank you sm for helping me

Is there a particular advantage to using an oval for constructing the torso rather than a box or is it just a preference?

>>6905638
Glad I could be helpful, wishing you well on your art journey

>>6905656
why don't you try both and come to your own conclusion

>>6905656
There's no advantage to constructing anything

DRAW

>>6904249
HEY BEGGERS! CHECK OUT THIS ONE CHANNEL FORUM DISCORD!!! ITS COOL MAN

https://discord.gg/7JFjXpsc

>quality of the art in the """beginner""" thread is miles better than mine

they really need to just rename this to critique general

just can't color, time to go back to fundies

>>6904256
Alright
Dr. Eggman isn't feeling it lately

>>6905708
Shift the hue a bit towards yellows/reds and the skin tone will be fine I think, it's too cold

>>6905698
*the beginner and intermediate thread

long time no see. haven't posted in this thread in a while. since /asg/ is slow as shit might as well post here.
cba'd "inking" so I left it at this refined sketch phase.
i'll try to gain the strength to study anatomy again soon enough

>>6905742
The differentiation in line weights on the left better conveys a sense of depth given the perspective you're viewing her from compared to the right. As a general rule, outlines should be thick, detail lines and interconnecting lines within the outlines should be thinner than the outlines, and things closer to the viewer should have thicker lines than things further from the viewer.

>>6905666
that's a man, isn't it?

>>6905759

>>6905656
The rib cage is sort of shaped like a boxy egg, but the shoulder girdle is kind of square at the top, the front of the rib cage is a flat plane, and the lowest attached ribs kind of make corners. But the back and sides are pretty round. So there are aspects of the rib cage that are best thought of as being egg like, and aspects that are best though of as box like. For general poses, I kind of tend to use an egg shape first to get the mass of the ribcage in place. Then I make it a little boxy to solidify the perspective. For back views, I usually only need the egg shape and the center line of the spine since you don’t see the corners of the ribs from the back. Different views of the ribcage will look more like boxes or more like eggs or more like cylinders. (I rarely use cylinders.)
For any twisty poses and especially for foreshortened poses, I usually just go straight to the box construction.

Some of it is preference, but it’s more like which tool are you gonna use for which job. It’s about whichever construction helps you understand/visualize/think about that stage of that drawing of that pose in that moment.

It’s like asking whether to use a screwdriver or an impact driver. They both drive screws and will get you to the same place, just differently. Even so, which you use depends on you and your task. If there’s a screw that’s backed out slightly, you might reach for the screwdriver. You might find that it’s tougher than you thought, and grab the impact to drive it home the last turn. If you need to drive a screw through a 2x4, you might want the impact. If you’re driving a screw into delicate plastic trim on an old car, you might want to consider the screwdriver instead.

The point is: Have both tools available whenever you need. So practice both boxes and eggs. And practice “boxifying” eggs and “eggifying” boxes.

Here’s some old gestures. Mostly egg-based. Whereas this >>6905238 was purely boxy. No rules, only tools.

>>6905759
4chan brain rot

>>6905656
I use both depending on the situation, if the figure is at a difficult angle I prefer the box

Got a 0.05 mm fineliner. It's great, there's some tonal difference depending on pressure and the thin lines are very pleasing to draw.

>>6905791
How much time did it take you to fill that canvas?

>>6905795
4 days drawing 90 minutes a day

My gift to /beg/ - A highly curated collection of 1000+ sexy reference photos. Ranges from sulty to pornographic. Not sure why I put it in an archive, will upload a folder if that's problematic.

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>>6905811
sultry* of course

>>6905240
Thanks anon. Doing Vilppu right now and learned that foot freehand from watching him.

If any anons want to join in, do some quick gestures with me, vilppu gesture assignment 1. Here's a PD for just that video. Vilppu renaissance figure drawing can be found in the /ic/ torrent or video course thread >>6895362

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10 sec pose x5
2 min pose x10
Watch and do video 6 before watching video 7

>>6905811
>dude just download this archive from 4chan!
"no"

>>6905850
Your loss. Will upload the folder later but my figure refs are queued first, 4gb to go.

>>6905850
It does appear to be just photos, but a rar of all things is a fucking pain to figure out how to open on my iPad
>>6905855
Looking forward to it, thanks for the ref pack

>>6905666
>>6905779

Posting this here too. From >>6905106

Alright, sorry it took so long, Mega upload times are abysmal with a free account.

4000 figure ref pack
~1000 male
~3000 female
Contains photos from hundreds of sources, I only chose photos I liked the best, with solid lighting, interesting shapes and poses. There are probably some stinkers, I'm only human.

Sexy refs coming up next.

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>>6905895
Nice! This should be added to the torrent.

>>6904471

>>6905791
What did you study to learn how to draw breasts? Your art always has such a good weight to them.

>>6905895
time to download this and not use it ever

getting used to this

>>6905895
Sexy reference pack of 1000+ photos.
Same thing applies, took me A LOT of time to sift through terabytes of soft porn.
No accounting for taste so some of them may not be to your liking, I wager most will.

Coom and draw, in whatever order you prefer.

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>>6905895
Thanks bro I was looking for male references for anatomy study

what's his name

>>6905710
Very based.

>>6905908
I studied a lot the work of doujin artists like trylsc, blue gk and uo denim

>>6905943
"One month into Starting Strength"

>>6905952
At least the mouth is nice.

>>6905952
Great mouth!

>>6905952
do your bargue plates and you won't have this problem.

birth of a permabeg schizo

>>6904249
Started drawing and learning figures from morpho and Lezhin's book. this is my first complete drawing of figure How am I doing.

On a greyhound and don't really have much light right now or anything since senpai is sleeping. Sorry for bad picture

Hello /beg/, here are today's KtD copies and the fat dude from >>6904256.

>>6905952
I am not sure if you're purposefully making it this way, but I don't think your style works. Consider rolling back to realism and building from there.
>>6905943
Lady Knight Rapist. idk I'm not good at big funny names. Good drawing though.
>>6905894
With lips, less is oftentimes more. This is one of the few things I learned when I tried into drawing heads.
>>6905882
2D beats 3DPD once again.
>>6905791
I enjoy your studies, but please consider drawing something other than big breasted anime girls once in a while. I am curious how you would do backgrounds, men, clothed figures, etc.
>>6905742
Welcome back, I'm looking forward to your anatomy studies.
>>6905710
I always felt like the idea of video game characters becoming down-to-earth people is an interesting concept. Something like what the Wolf Among Us did. Though I've only watched some youtube playthrough videos.
>>6905708
I agree with the other anon, with the colours as is there is too much green, makes it seem like the flesh is dead.
>>6905698
pyw anyways.
>>6905402
>>6905022
Cute.
>>6905374
So this is the opposite of the kangaroo syndrome... (good studies)
>>6905308
Energetic.
>>6905238
I do not like vagina close-ups, but nice chain.
>>6905162
Cute & sexy.
>>6905048
I see people recommend retrying the same drawing many times if you fail. So finish it, learn from your mistakes, and do it again!
>>6905000
>>6904911
Cool.
>>6904871
Good studies.
>>6904326
Very good and grim, I agree with the other anons though, lighting could be better/more varied, though perhaps everything being orange hued is what you planned?

Alright so it was late and I didn't have much time so I decided to do some drawabox perspective stuff which turned into some shape practice...

Boxes look slightly less wonky now, and my finger control continues to improve. Hopefully tomorrow I can do more burne hogarth studies.

Still not sure if I am getting better or not though I notice it's much easier for me to construct random objects better than I used to, like my finger responds to my brain better.

>>6905779
>>6905666
I'm garbo but I'll try
Now can I have a source of her? She cute

>>6906026
Considered making your horizon horizontal and your verticals vertical.

>>6906041
That's a rather elaborate sarcastic insult?

Just going by what I did when I was doing drawabox over a year ago.

WIP but still, is there anything worse than going through a drawing thinking "Hey this looks alright" but then realize all of the mistakes when getting to colour?
Ah well, at least it is another drawing of these characters I can compare to my last attempts to see what's improved, what's degraded and what is still an issue.

>>6906050
Youre not going to improve just by drawing finished pictures. You need to do studies, copies of other artists and photos of life

>>6906061
Oh I do that as well, I just use finished pieces as a test to myself since that is the goal I strive towards.
Do like a week of study, then a week doing a piece I like.

>>6906048
I'm genuine.

>>6906064
I see you don't talk much, that's not good for critiquing but whatever.

You should have just shared that to begin with. It was hard to actually notice that but I'll try to do it better tomorrow.

>>6906068
Figure out the shortcut which makes your ruler snap to vertical and horizontal it's usually something like holding down shift.

Is doing a masters study literally just copying and thinking about what you like about it and how it was made?

>>6905514
>>6905527
I've fixed up the hand, thanks for the tip, it finally doesn't ruin it for me

Why are people "condemning" my drawing? How do you interpret this drawing?

>>6905949
>trylsc
Fuckin perfect. Tyvm this was exactly what I was looking for.

>>6904256

Is it a bad habit to trace anatomy only? I'm having a lot of trouble scaling body parts correctly and tracing is really the only way I can do it now

>>6904471
After like 2 weeks of learning to draw i am out in the wild dont cut me down fellow ronin drawers

>>6906113

>>6906082
I interpret this as something that makes my pp hard

tomorrow 8 hours? absofruitly
at the very least

>>6904256
Sorry I cant draw with a mouse.

>>6906064
the vanishing points don't have to be on a straight horizontal line nigga
The vanishing points can be whenever you want them, what matters is if you stick to them
>>6906026
how do you handle vertical lines? this is 2 point or 3 point? If its 2 points all vertical lines need to be parallel to each other

moai

>>6906012
Keep going, good stuff anon. And ideal conditions required for drawing and posting is a myth. Draw whenever you have a spare minute

>>6906062
Different anon, but okay. Theoretically that's the way to go. Study fundies, do master studies, and also be working on your own projects. By your own evaluation, after working on this piece what do you think you need to work on?

I dont think I should overrender this, I might ruin it.

Would it be better to get a degree in animation, or go for computer science and just take cheap animation classes after, if i *have* to go to college? Like what's a good art-adjacent degree if i don't want a giant debt to a liberal art degree i can't use, or should I get the most 'useful' degree within liberal art I can get. My main goal is just to become an animator.

>>6906392
It doesn't really matter, what you really need to do if you go to college is networking. Getting to know the good persons will open the right doors for you to get a foot in the industry and then it's up to you,

So I've been trying to construct some poses from reference, meaning to try to quickly sketch them to get the overall feel and have something to build up on later. How can I improve in doing nice looking quick poses?

>>6906385
why not cel shade? looks good

>>6906271
fat guy has soul

>>6905374
i like them

>>6905666
>shitty narrow hips
No thanks satan

Day 11 of learning the basics n whatnot. Did some sketch practice, some value practice, some doodles, etc. Also tried Proko's rhino line weight exercise again because it was fun. Chill day

>>6906384
Her toes are backwards.

>>6906406
You have never had sex.

colouring practice

>>6906417

>>6905665
ngmi

>>6905665
This is what no perspective does to a mf

>>6906417
God I love armpits so much, best fetish

>>6906379
Based Easter Islander

It doesn't look good but I can't see the mistakes.

>>6905464

>>6906460
look like you’ve improved going from top to bottom. I think you’re learning to utilize the thickness of line better, but maybe you’re still drawing too fast. what helps me is to not attempt to outline something but instead pretend that my pencil is a brush with varying thickness and hue and then shading into the lines that i draw. If it helps bridge the gap in your mind draw bigger or smaller, get a really fat pencil, and maybe a highlighting eraser. Idk if this is bad advice but it’s been helping me.

Why is Krita WORTH SHIT?

Sup beg, i am having pain with pencil.

>>6906460
nice kots
>>6906392
1. a lot of pros in art are self taught. that implies that art schools are either scam or completely redundant
2. be extremely wary of any uni degree course with words like business, science, information. these often are either completely useless in real life job market or scams. instead look for courses with words like applied, engineering, technology. these actually teach you something usable. so if you want to learn how to code the best is software engineering
>>6906385
i kneel
>>6906384
i coom and kneel
>>6906379
is that loomis head?
>>6906076
yes
>>6906050
the worst is when you notice the mistake only AFTER you posted it online
>>6905920
>anon is hoarding and categorizing porn instead of drawing
NGMI
>>6905908
i coom
>>6905698
it is called INT and BEG
>>6905446
i dont see how switching model of head will solve my inability to draw loomis head but thanks anyway for trying
>>6905238
COOOOOM. Did you want to off yourself while you were drawing that chain or is there a trick to it?
>>6905162
holy shit so many coomers in the thread, i should start making coom too
>>6904926
you cut the ball on sides so the head doesnt fill the initial circle every single time. depends on the angle
>>6904891
i am trying, it hurts taking the wheels off

>>6906496
>is that loomis head?
No not really, just drawing an easter island head. On that note though, I think you need to take care with positioning the features a bit more. Drawing a lot is good but the eye placement, etc. seems off. Fix those before you solidify poor placement as a habit. I think your eyes themselves have improved, looking less like symbols of eyes

>>6906496
>so the head doesnt fill the initial circle every single time.
For half those examples you drew the chin within the ball.

>>6906460
Esdeathfag?

>>6906400
>How can I improve in doing nice looking quick poses?
my quick poses only improved when I focused more on long poses. I recommend 15-20 minutes per study at least. Draw the same picture over and over again, until you see significant improvement from your first attempt compared to your last attempt. You could spend an hour drawing the same image in this way. Just remember that all drawing is proportion, and nothing else.

>>6906512
Chad advice

How to get better at a thing? Practice it deliberately and for an extended period of timed session, use your own work as a benchmark to track your progress

>>6906516
thanks senpai. drawing the same thing over and over again is an obvious strategy to improve, but it's surprising how little people talk about it.

this arm is killing me

How do I overcome the nearest side of the body?
Whatever side of the body that is closest to the viewer is like a blind spot in my figures and I just can't understand the overlap and how the further side rotates and shortens.

>>6905666
>>6905779


>>6904904

>>6904249
I'm a total beglet what practices do
I do in order to sketch circular shapes without it looking like a deformed baby's head

>>6906566
look it up dude

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIlIr7GmYqE

i like how the eyes turned out on my kot even though they're wonky

>>6904256
Eh… you get the idea
>>6905882
Cute!
>>6905895
Thanks
>>6905918
Are you drawing such clean curves freehand?
>>6905943
>>6905951
Kek, this
>>6905952
The proportions and features are ugly. Colors and brush economy are good
>>6906012
Congrats anon! Don’t start with Morpho, though. Start with Vilppu. You’re using overlapping lines to show form, which is good. Do the Vilppu Renaissance Figure Drawing course.
>>6906021
Thanks! I’m glad you like the chain. Im afraid you wouldn’t like most of my other lewd studies then lol
>>6906026
>I notice it's much easier for me to construct random objects better than I used to, like my finger responds to my brain better.
Then you’re getting better
>>6906031
Good effort, anon, you’re two drawings closer to making it. Practice proportion and accuracy like from Brent Eviston or proko. Once you’re moderately accurate, grind Vilppu and learn to feel the form.
>>6906050
>getting to colour
Haha yeah… color… ahem. anyway do Vilppu
>>6906271
I like this
>>6906379
Based
>>6906384
The form shadows and especially the cast shadows on her shoulder, forearm, hip, and thigh really flatten the forms. They cut straight across instead of following the contour of the surface of the figure. Otherwise this is quite good, anon.
>>6906385
I much prefer the mouth on the original sketch. This is still great though.
>>6906414
Very nice. I like the cute little chameleon doodle
>>6906417
Anon are you trying to give me another fetish
>>6906496
Thanks. No tricks, just observation to get the direction of the links right. I treated it as a form/perspective exercise. I sometimes draw chains as training, so this was just a modified version of that. Took way longer and way more effort than the girl.

Also I thought you were training to draw coom, right?
>>6906537
That’s so foreshortened you just need to get the hand right and add a lump for the elbow
>>6906566
Grind circles and spheres
>>6906549
Nice
>>6906565
SOVL
>>6906572
Cute! GMI

How do you handle the frustration that comes with improving? I just end up angry with myself for having done it wrong before and then start breaking my art supplies.

>>6906612
Buy more expensive art supplies, so you think twice before breaking them

I’ve been haphazardly practicing side views for a few weeks and still need a ref to draw them, but I can get the construction and proportions right much faster now. Hopefully with more focused practice I’ll be able to draw them without ref soon.

>>6906640
After every study you make, do it again from memory.

I redrew two OCs and although I've been mostly doing landscape work in traditional, I see an improvement. More than that, I don't want to puke when I see this drawing. I think I'm finally starting to make it past the beginner phase, anons.

>>6906646
Here's the old sketch I made

my sketchbook is soiled

I drew the right foot too short first

>>6906496
>i dont see how switching model of head will solve my inability to draw loomis head but thanks anyway for trying

the two are not exclusive, the sphere method is just there for the beginning of your drawing, to lay the base of your head, then if you want to have a correct impression of three-dimensionality you have to think about the planes of the head. picrel from loomis

>>6906496
Stop drawing on autopilot
Slow down and think about every line, draw one head a day instead if that's what it takes

>>6906416
>defending some random thot
I hope "she" sees this bro.

are moatdd and p00se2 good sources to learn from?

>>6906701
never gonna make it

Today's random assortment of ideas and style practice.

>>6906801
you cant do style practice when you cant do the fundamentals.
you must first be able to draw whatever youre trying to stylise.
what are you stylising? you are stylising nothing.

Shitty boxes too drunk to keep drawing

>>6906808
This guy drinks alcohol he's so cool

>>6906809
What a fag he should kill himself alcohol is for queers

day 100
I finished this yesterday but was too tired to write the blog
After 100 days of daily studies I'm not sure how much it was worth. I learned a lot of things but as I already thought you need to study directly what you're trying to draw for best effects.I know more things now but my drawings from imagination are nearly the same. Following a study>/justdraw/>study>/justdraw/>study>/justdraw/>... schedule would be more effective. With this daily drawing challenge There were spans of days where I didn't draw anything from imagination. On the other hand dedicating yourself solely to studies makes you more patient.
I started by drawing the cube structures, it took me a while to get a hang of them and the idea was to make them more and more convoluted until I had immense spatial imagination. While that got me better at perspective the plan ultimately failed because I didn't foresee how hard diminishing returns kick in.
I made a blog somewhere around day 50, I expected more of my /beg/ bros to follow me but I didn't get much followers. I got 150 likes by tagging someone but that didn't translate to new followers. The idea was to put my degenerate drawings on that blog but I chickened out for some reason. It's hard to choose between sfw and nsfw, how do you choose?
I also finally found an artist I want to copy, that being mossacannibalis

Last note on mass-replying. For most days I tried to limit how many people I reply to, if you reply to everyone then the (you) gets devalued. I think it's better to reply only when you're genuinely interested.

>>6906572
you made this with coffee?
>>6905882
>>6905908
spectacular
>>6906537
the eyes are killing me, literally just move them up
>>6905952
what are you trying to achieve with this

>>6906822
>what are you trying to achieve with this
Now this is a wild guess but I'm pretty sure he was painting a portrait

>>6906824
yeah but 10 lines could have counter as a portrait
specifically what was he doing? What was he trying to capture about the original? What was the goal, accuracy? Color Accuracy? Applying some kind of technique?

>>6906826
He learned 1000 times as much as you from three non descript grey balls floating in a void.

>>6906827
He did? And what was that he learned?

>>6905791
you should finish a drawing

>>6905952
are your eyes far apart irl or something? usually people make their drawings look like them and i don’t understand why you keep making your girls have their eyes like that

>>6906537
look closer at your ref image, you can see the point of her elbow under the braid

>>6905952
is this for a horror movie

>>6904256

Is mikey mega‘s construction any good?

Don't really know where to ask this so I'll post it here.
I'm currently interning (unpaid) at a marketing company and have been for almost 2 weeks now making graphic art. Every day for 2 weeks I show up before everyone else and leave after everyone else does so I'm pulling nine-to-fivers plus the extra time, again, unpaid. They said right at the start not to expect anything from this in terms of opportunities which didn't bother me since experience is experience you know and besides, as nice as everyone is I simply do not enjoy the kind of stuff we do, it's incredibly boring and doesn't even fit my portfolio all too well. Come today I find out via an unreliable third party that these 2 weeks are not the finish of it, rather this could go on for a couple of months. Outside of this I'm just your run of the mill Neet so if I quit I'd be going back to that lifestyle, but if I stay I'd be trapped doing unpaid work for a job I don't really even enjoy for a slither of a molecule of a chance to be hired (which has never been brought up) which could be good since they seem to pay a lot. So my question is; what would you do?

>>6906859
I would have left, I don't want to work for a company that can't even spare a few pennies for an intern lol

>>6906859
Get to know people, make friends maybe they know someone else hiring, also stop doing unpaid overwork you daft idiot.

>>6906859
i mean, do you need money? are you working alongside paid artists, or other unpaid interns? are you trying to pursue a career in graphic design? many variables here- you’d probably get more helpful responses on Reddit. imo, if you don’t need money and want to pursue this as a career you should stick it out for a while, it’s something you can put on your resume/portfolio as experience. i’d stop arriving and leaving early though- that’s just telling them they can work you harder for completely free.

>>6906584
Soul, also great drawing

>>6906859
>what would you do?
Is it for college and you're required to do an internship? You may have to tough it out. Talk to your school. Otherwise tell them to go screw, I don't know where you're from but at least in the US (where the law is rarely enforced and young people usual take it up the ass for a chance to get into the industry) can't legally try and replace real employees with unpaid interns. If you're not learning things relevant to your interests don't waste your creative energy on some cheap fucks who want free labor.

Mongoose

>>6906496
>>anon is hoarding and categorizing porn instead of drawing
>NGMI

Next time I think of doing something nice for the community I'll just grind a 1000 fwap cartoon heads instead with no discernible improvement and mass reply with half-assed non-advice.

>>6906865
Good point actually, I did say they make a lot of money so what gives, why nothing for little ole me?
>>6906867
I've been making connections this whole time, I think I'm pretty sorted for an exit, just not a job afterwards.
>>6906870
I live with my parents so money isn't really required but I can't just keep cutting into my savings and I do want to support them since "raising cost of living" and all that. I'm the only intern there among a small team of paid artists. As for the career question, I don't have much of a choice in this country but of the graphic design we do this is not what I generally focus on / want to focus on.
>>6906874
Nah I've long since graduated which is why the idea of unpaid work tasted pretty bad in mouth hearing about it 3 weeks ago. And you're right about that law thing, I'll keep it in mind.
>If you're not learning things relevant to your interests don't waste your creative energy on some cheap fucks who want free labor.
My parents force me to go and got mad when I said I wanted out (since "what else would you be doing anon?!").

shading on digital used to be a challenge for me
now not anymore

>>6906414
Anon, where do You find these cool animal pics?

Finished the Bargue eyes plate. I accidentally redrew an eye I already drew once from the penultimate row.

Some of these wouldn't be out of place on a mecha

I'm not sure I want to grind Bargue plates

>>6906921
i'm impressed by how long these took you

>>6906859
this is the saddest thing I've seen today

>>6906859
ask if youll get hired.
if you wont, you quit because its pointless.
if you will, you stay because youll get hired.
simple as

>>6906859
Germany's immigration law reforms will be introduced in three stages starting in November this year. The first stages of a new law that will make it easier for skilled workers from outside the EU to move to Germany are expected to come in November. The German government gave its final approval for the law in July this year. It is expected to come into force in three steps in November 2023, March 2024 and June 2024. The new law aims to attract skilled foreign workers and combat labour shortages in the country.

The plans to modernise the country's immigration legislation are expected to make it easier for third-country nationals to work in Germany. It could increase the number of non-EU workers in Germany by 60,000 per year. The reforms to the Skilled Immigration Act particularly focus on workers with vocational, non-academic training. Existing rules for qualified professionals with university degrees will also be relaxed.
>Why is Germany changing its immigration policies?
Like many countries in Europe, Germany is facing a shortage of skilled workers. In 2022, the country's labour shortage rose to an all-time high: the Institute for Employment Research (IAB) found 1.74 million vacant positions throughout Germany. In July last year, staff shortages affected almost half of all companies surveyed by Munich-based research institute IFO, forcing them to slow down their operations. It hopes to fill this gap with qualified professionals from outside the EU. But currently, red tape is slowing down the country's immigration process.

“We know that we can only guarantee our future, the efficiency of our economy and the efficiency of our social security systems if we have enough skilled workers at our disposal,” said Scholz. “From within the European Union, that's not so difficult, because there is freedom of movement. With regard to the rest of the world, it is a greater challenge,” he added.

>>6904249
https://youtu.be/Kkk9CLFHB7g

>>6906985
What? So all these rocket scientists and doctors who came before turned out to be useless?
Worker shortage my ass. They just want to undercut salaries. Isn't economy in the shitter anyway?

>>6905952
cute ref

also some advice, actually observe what's going on in the reference, don't just look at it once and let your brain assume what's going on because your brain is most defintely wrong, cheers

how do I do light and shadow studies of shit like this? Do I just draw the figure and then go base color shadows etc while trying to eye if the color I put is right?

>>6906615
I guess that would solve part of the problem. But I’d still be getting triggered by the anger that comes from improving. How did you learn to deal with that?

>>6907029
youre at 2. what you want is at 7. what you need to learn is 2-7.

>>6907033
just be normal and punch a wall

or take some pen and scribble on a paper if that feels more artistic to you

>>6907002
your painting is really good but you took huge liberties in the drawing just like him, your colors are accurate though

>>6907057
that's my lack of skill in copying, what i'm working on rn. though i don't see a point in spending 5 hours on one thing getting it exactly right vs doing 5 things that take an hour

>>6907002
Very nice if not for the chin, easy fix I suppose

>>6907043
what book is this?

>>6907084
check past threads

>>6907002
Pretty good anon, but the giga chin and cheekbones made me laugh

>>6907096
was originally too lazy to fix it but enough people mentioned it so i feel like i had to now

>>6907118
where/how did you learn to paint like that? usually someone at that stage of digital painting already has all their core draftsmanship skills (observation and proportion) polished to near perfection, but it seems like you skipped ahead a little.

>>6907118
Good on you for not letting yourself not fix it

>>6907149
i never put any effort into learning painting itself. Just used it as a tool to finish drawings, watched a few youtube videos in my life, and this is where i'm at with it rn

painting is mainly knowing how to use your tools easy as hell compared to the rest imo

>>6907118
it's still sticking out, maybe you're using the wonky mouth as a point of reference ?

constantly oscillating back and forth between not knowing what I'm doing and then randomly getting lucky enough to draw something good

>>6907166
i see. what videos did you watch, if you can remember?

>practiced a bunch of bridgeman and models
>get a brain stroke drawing anything from imagination that's cartoony now

>>6907183
nta, but I have a youtube playlist that I dump digital painting videos into. I need to prune it and there's some unrelated videos in there. But there should at least be a few things that are helpful.

>>6907270
ok?

>>6907278
forgot link
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLduTm-6qug7U3-D6c5JeLjXZ8fCeET7Mu&si=7vVWiI4rxTdfQwpq

If I want to get good at "getting the lines as good as possible from the get-go" then is doing 10 minute random figures good practice?

I have a feeling I should be doing longer studies but I guess 2 10-minute drawings are still better than 0 20-minute drawings.

dress critique hoshi

>>6907301
Dress doesn't really have distinct form. It has some nice folds where its resting on the thighs, but not much elsewhere

>>6906996
>They just want to undercut salaries.
This

>>6907286
The better you get at drawing, as an overall skill, the better your initial lines will look

Looking at your work, you're still basically a day 1 beginner, so I recommend reading the sticky and practicing correctly

>>6906540
WTF is wrong with you
stop posting here

>>6907321
what? you can't even handle a bit of ryona?

>>6906540
Tasteless and incredibly shitty. Never change /ic/.

>>6907350
pyw

>Put off drawing to tomorrow for nth day in a row
>Feel awful about it
>Think about drawing the entire time i'm not drawing
>Continue to procastrinate and feeling bad about it
Am i retared? The solution seems simple but its like i'm swimming in mollasses anytime i try to get started. Its so hard.

Is tracing drawings a good way to train as a beginner? I was doing Loomis "Fun With a Pencil" but I can't really say I'm having fun making old fat guy heads. I won't stop reading the book or doing the exercises but I was wondering whether I could supplement it with tracings or if that's completely worthless as a training.

>>6907369
Starting is by far the hardest. After a while it gets difficult to stop

>>6907375
If you just blindly trace a drawing I don't see what you could possibly learn. Copy artists you like and pay close attention to proportion, line weight, colors / whatever

>>6907381
I see :(
What about trying to copy it? Like placing it on the right side of the canvas and just trying to copy it.

>>6907369
Nah that's normal.
Like the other anon said, starting is very difficult.

You can try by "fool" yourself by saying stuff like "I'll just do some warmups for 5 minutes" and before you know you draw for 30 minutes.

>>6907183
nothing ground breaking, stuff from sinix, mainly remeber the one about painting skin, then one about braking down paintings into just two values, and some video about how colour works. none of them helped me wtih copying reference so kind of irelevant in this case

>>6907168
looking at it now i think it wouldn't work even in realtion to the wonky mouth desu

>>6907429
Do exactly that, and then move your drawing on top of the reference to see how close you got. Then try again. Then again from memory. That will train accuracy like a motherfucker, but you better choose good stuff to study otherwise you’ll internalize their mistakes. If you study art with bad anatomy, you’ll learn bad anatomy, etc.

Tracing can help force you to slow down and really fucking pay attention to subtle details in good line work so you can better understand them. Drawing construction over a reference limage and drawing ecorche over a reference photo are legit ways to practice construction and anatomy. But the best is probably to copy the ref then compare it to train accuracy.
>>6906871
Thanks anon! I fucked up the perspective in the chair… But I don’t get “soul” as feedback very often, so I’m happy. That really means a lot to me, I appreciate it!
>>6907204
I marvel at how Vilppu can whip out whatever the fuck he wants from imagination just like that. From highly refined figures to exaggerated cartoons. Ditto for Miura, drawing stuff like usual and then throwing in a random chestnut puck making a Star Wars reference. >>6907369
>>6907436
Yeah. Just try to half-ass draw a circle, cuz that technically counts as “doing drawing.” That one thing is all it takes to overcome the inertia, and then you can maybe draw two circles. If you’re not feeling it, then you drew for the day. If you are feeling it, keep going. You don’t have to “sit down to draw” all serious like. Just make a circle.

>>6905895
>>6905920
Thanks dude. Some good stuff.

Any tips or guides for drawing armor from different perspectives?

>>6905666
>>6905779

Didn't even see front view until after already finishing rear

>>6907369
Hey anon, I did that for over 6 months because I was depressed. I'm not completely better, but I'm tired of being controlled by my feelings rather than my own will. So I started drawing again this month. Trying to do it everyday, hasn't been everyday but it's been getting closer to that. Set a goal for yourself, as long as you draw at least 10 minutes you're good, etc. It's getting easier and more fun to draw. When I can't think of anything, I do two 5 minute poses.

https://youtu.be/MSOiXWLH-1Y?si=pVb-K8H9v3ibDDIy

>Look up my inspiration Joe Mad's early life to see how he got into art
>literally had a rich family send him to a highschool for art in NYC
>interned at marvel at 16
>had opportunity after opportunity all through teens to early 20s
>wrote sneering comments at people on facebook about how he wants to stop seeing people submit painfully amateurish portfolios with low confidence at the interviews
>literally had a rich family carry him all the way into a successful art career

this whole industry is only built for rich nepo babies isn't it. what chance do i even have starting in my mid 20s from a lower income family and podunk shithole education

>>6907375
>I was doing Loomis "Fun With a Pencil" but I can't really say I'm having fun making old fat guy heads.
loomis is a hack, thats your problem

>>6904471

>>6907536
Glad you like it

>>6904471
>>6905666
>>6905779
Work sketches. Why do they look like shit?

Sup beg, more pain with the pencil. At this rate i will finish the book in spring. Dear art god, give me strength!

>>6907591
because to make anything even remotely good looking in pencil you need to resharpen the pencil after every other stroke + you need to know what you are doing
>>6907563
there are ~two types of drawers: the trust fund babies and the people who draw because nothing else interest them. now draw and PYW
>>6907551
>Carol Belanger Grafton Arms and Armor
Reference and perspective is all you need
>>6907375
tracing has minimal (if any) art gains. you want to be copying it at the start and later when you get gud drawing it from memory like i am now trying to do (and failing greatly at it)
>>6907369
work habits
>>6907286
keys to drawing. welcome to the beg. line quality will improve over time simply by having big mileage. work on observation and accuracy instead
>>6907029
https://archive.org/details/Keys_to_Drawing/page/102
>>6906921
you could take it as challenge to get faster
>>6906767
if loomis wanted me to draw 1 big detailed head he wouldnt put 20 different small heads on single page of paper with words: copy these. you are right about the thinking about lines though
>>6906572
I KNEEL

>>6907614
>Carol Belanger Grafton Arms and Armor

Well thank you kind sir, i'll check it out

Just trying to improve, any and all critique is appreciated

>>6907643
i think it looks pretty ok, the right horn base is a bit blase though

>>6907643
Looks really good anon.

>>6906828
Tbh it’s mostly about color.
The portrait is just an excuse for a color study

>>6906831
Appeal I guess, if you make the eyes too close together you get a sharp predatory look.
Guess too much anime seeping in tho.

>>6907002
Very nice colors anon also like the shape design, i feel I get a bit too muddy when I could use less but more accurate colors.

>>6907647
blase?
>>6907650
Ty :)

>>6907614
>because to make anything even remotely good looking in pencil you need to resharpen the pencil after every other stroke + you need to know what you are doing
So...?

>>6907652
>>6907654
Compare the angle of the nose in your painting to the reference, it distorts the read on the eyes. If that's the style you're going for, consider making the eyes larger for more appeal.

>>6907661
>blase
Lazy.

>>6907668
They don't look that bad, keep practicing. You can keep a pencil's point sharp by rotating it regularly.

>>6907614
so if i had a gun to my head and had to go to college for something, but want to work in animation, but not break the bank, what degree should I go for

>>6907678
How to make figures more appealing?

>>6907760
practice drawing figures and exaggerate/push features that you enjoy

Post songs to draw to
https://youtu.be/xqRgc8VTN20?si=AoncpTjw6FNWJAlP

>>6907760
Gesture and pose are huge. If the pose is too static/stiff it takes away a lot. I feel like poses that are mid-movement are generally more dynamic and interesting

what exactly made the texture of this exactly as it is, how to recreate it IRL? whats the technique, brush or tools used called?

>>6907784
dunno ask /g/

>>6907784
faggot

>>6907784
idk looks like AI to me

>>6907787
>>6907785
>NOO YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO GET INSPIRATION FROM AI IMAGES TO DRAW IRL NOOOO

>>6907784
that's litterally Ai that tries to imitate oilpaint on an canvas my dude

>>6907793
no one said that

>>6907793
if it's ai, you can probably find what's that style of texture/painting called in the prompt.

>
>>6907791
what is so ai about it? it seems just regular paint with some canvas texture.

Is it a bad idea to stick to black and white values if you don't know shit about color theory or painting yet? I have ideas that I want to try but the idea of completing it with full rendering is intimidating

>>6907815
Look at the weird flowers on it's wrists and the ret pedal that is out of place. The texture looks scaly liek that of an reptile, canvases don't look like that. Also the webbing on the lower legs is inconsistent and spiderweb likie. A normie would never know that this is Ai art tho

Day 12 of learning the basics n whatnot. Did mostly the usual; values and sketches from refs, but I tried something new. Instead of animals, I used drawings from the boku no hero creator, to practice sketching. Even did a few head doodles. The lines and accuracy got messy fast because I didn't know what I was doing, but it was fun. Also redpandas are SO hard to draw man. Mine kept looking like deformed cats.

>>6907880
>Day 12
>Already this good
Just kill me.

>>6907880
Lookin good anon. Keep drawing. I think the pandas are hard because

>>6906913
forgot to reply in my other post. i get them from Pinterest. that's where i get all my ref pics.

>>6907885
>no anatomy construction

it's just starting for him

>>6907885
Nothings stopping you from doing studies like he's doing
t. fellow beg

>>6907654
small eyes are a masculine trait, try making them bigger. they’re also too far apart and resemble Halle Berry’s, not an anime girl’s.

>>6907591
You're learning, just practice more and you'll get a feel for proportions and linework

1: try to use less sketchy lines, put down confident strokes, if you practice sketchy unconfident linework then that's all you'll get good at

2: work on figure drawing, your bodies are anatomically off but this will come to you with mileage, drawing a few hundred figures or just 2 or 3 a day for the next 20 days should be a good start

3: You're drawing symbols of what you think you're seeing rather than just copying. Try to create the lines as closely as you can to the reference, once you get good at that then you can work on exaggerating or changing styles/proportions. Of course you should still draw for fun and whatever you want in whatever way you see fit but when studying focus on recreating what you see, not what the brain fills in as a shortcut

Keep at it

>>6907643
Great stuff anon, For your improvement I'de recommend sinix paintover pals videos, I think you'll get a lot out of watching his rendering process

Month 2 Day 16, started a new original piece over the past few days, wanted to attempt a full one

I relied on a lot of advice and critique from friends so it feels like I cheated, but I think i'm starting to enjoy the process of creating original pieces a lot more

gonna attempt coloring and shading it tomorrow

>>6907962
Does she were pantsu?

>>6907968
it's hard to tell because there's no coloring or shading (and bc its a bad drawing xd) but she's wearing a skirt that's covering her pubic area
guess i didnt make that part clear enough

Day 1 of drawing Eris Greyrat. I'd like to do this for thirty days and see if I feel any improvement. I've been drawing on & off for nearly a year. I did all the exercises in Drawing with the Right Side of the Brain. all the exercises with Fun with a Pencil - and I feel like I didn't accomplish much, that I'm not getting better. Unless I take hours and hours to meticulously measure things, proportions are off, alignments are off, etc. There has to be a better way, and so instead of doing these random exercises with the intent to "get good" and then draw what I want - I decided fuck it. I will draw what I want and see if my impenetrably amounts of self loathing autism forces me to improve.

My inability to properly measure things in a timely matter is clearly seen in the picture. Shits wonky, clearly and it gives me a very obvious metric to focus on. It took me about forty five minutes to do the middle image, and then another hour and a half to line art / color it. Not happy with the results. Where did her ears go? How did I manage to fuck up the little horns on the side of her head so badly? How did her eyes get so fucking wonky despite the fact I was using guidelines and a compass to make the initial circle? Even her ahoge is way too thick in the finale art. I need to break out of the habit of drawing with pencil & paper on my lap, while my tablet is upright on my desk. Its making things more difficult than it needs to be. I will need to reference anime head construction again as well. But today is day 1. I will see you tomorrow for day 2. I do not know if I will attempt this image again or another head shot of Eris but we shall see.

>>6907978
are you practicing fundies n whatnot while doing this, or is this the only thing you're doing?

>>6907980
I've recently started doing the Draw a Box lessons alongside this which will hopefully help. Drawing is fun, until I look at the end product and want to die.

>>6907559
Advice: don't worry, draw a moai head to get yourself started

>>6907999
pic related

>>6907978
For day one this is really good. I think the main thing that throws this off is the length of the face. What really helped me understand head/face construction is using triangles. One triangle to connect the two corners of the eyes to the nose, and another one to connect the two corners of the eyes to the chin. By adjusting the width/height of these triangles you can change the appearance of the face.
The orignal character is young and thus has a very short and wide triangles in her head construction. The triangles that make up your head construction are far longer and more narrow, giving her a more mature look. This is also what is causing your ears to disappear. Since the ears are on the same level as the eyes with this more mature look they'll be higher up and more hidden.
It also helps keep facial features in line. On yours her right eye is far closer to the nose than the left eye giving you a lopsided inner triangle which makes her eyes appear like they're being viewed at an angle when the head is drawn at a forward facing view.
Hope this helps in someway, keep it up!

>>6907999
why not

>>6905238
>>6905001
Theyre both suicidal, the pose is supposed to be a double suicide.vThe tweaking the nipple thing is just Idk i just drew it a product of just draw. First i drew the hand then i drew the creases in the shirt and like that i just drew. Also drew this one of the girl today. Its from a game called the coffin of andy and leyley

In your guide you say I should draw the circles from the vipplu book for accuracy training. Do you only mean the first page with the circles and combined shapes or the latter part as well where he turns them to figures..?

Here is another Burne Hogarth Study. Only thing I can say about this is I was able to construct the torso relatively easily despite not using the barrel construction method, though after sleeping on it I see how innaccurate parts of my study are.

So it's getting easier for me, though I wanna start drawing from imagination but am a little afraid to do so still.

>>6908221
how are you going to construct anything accurately with those lines.
it is impossible.
you must first improve your lines or youll get nowhere.
it is literally impossible to construct accurately with lines like these.
you need one clear line. what you have is a dozen lines stacked on top of each other. the result can only be inaccurate.

>>6908224
I can tell you are likely being somewhat perfectionist considering I have only been drawing for about a month.

The way you repeatedly say "impossible" in a hyperbolic way doesn't really help either.

>>6908227
ngmi

>>6908232
Nah, just hyperbolic bullshit.

I know my lines aren't too clean at the moment but it's pretty typical for sketches to look messy. Eventually they'll look cleaner at some point.

youre entire mindset is ngmi
>uhh well is inaccurate and shit now but eventually will get bettur :)))
there is no point in "studying" anything when your lines look like that. you must first do proper linework, then you can study your burne hogarth.
what youre doing is pointless. this is bad practice.

>>6908240
Normally I don't like to disregard criticism but unfortunately some on here are so perfectionist and strict I often have to.

A few weeks ago I couldn't even draw proportions properly. The main thing I do want to try and do though is learn how to construct bodies with shapes better but so far I haven't really gotten around to doing that.

>unfortunately some on here are so perfectionist and strict I often have to
stopped reading there

>>6908251
Yeah you would, though it's true some on here act like they are experts (I don't pretend to be one) when they usually can't draw well for shit themselves.

>>6908248
yep yep, other anon is just straight up wrong, chasing perfect lines over form is a sure way to ngmi.

>>6908254
Can't tell if sarcasm.

The thing is I can do straighter lines than I used to but I am still not perfect at it. I thiink ultimately I need to start constructing the arms and legs rather than drawing out the muscles from the get go, would make for better figures and would allow me to draw from imagination better.

>>6908258
I'm genuine.

>>6908269
Right gotcha.

I'll do more drawing later and then try to draw something partially from imagination. I've said this before but it feels like my hands respond more to my mind compared to a few weeks ago better if that makes sense?

>>6908274
You're just getting used to using muscles in your arm/hand you're not normally using/never used.
It's like brushing your teeth with your non dominant hand.

>>6908276
Oh yeah, for sure.

But I mean I can better at also detecting how contour lines should work and my ability to construct things even if it's from reference is a lot more accurate than it ever was...not great but I can at least make something look like the thing I am seeing.

more morpho, this book is never ending

>>6908088

Someone should make a new thread so I can continue to not bother drawing in that one.

I posted in the other thread, but does anyone happen to have good pose reference books? Like of real models (male and female)?
Would save me needing to google all the time for new reference images.

I'm fine with SFW and NSFW poses.

>>6908318
i am making new thread, 5 minutes

>>6908307
tach me how, also what brush

done
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also lmao i got a warning from shitpost on /int

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>>6905464
Used your pic
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