/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

help me /beg/, I think I messed up. I started drawing many years ago and finally hit a decent level (still very much /beg/, but I was happy enough to go off and play with it) like 2 years back. I got through a chunk of drawabox and although my construction skills were still weak it was enough to get me through. Now it's some time later and I'm coming back from like a 6 month break and although I was slowly improving just by drawing I think I've hit a wall because of the lack of fundies. Is the best way to fix this to just pick up keys to drawing and run through it from page 1 or is there something a bit more focused I can use to patch up holes without redoing the entire foundation?

Do you give your Loomers a schlong? I find it a weird omission

>>6900182
loomis is a hack

>>6900180
pyw

If starting out learning to draw and I make drawing studies to practice, is it normal to draw the very same reference object over and over?
For example if the first 9 attempts are not good enough, but the reference is optimal?

>>6900169
Tell your belly button to stop looking at me

>>6900189
pyw

>>6900211
It is absolutely normal. I'd even say it's highly encouraged. I remember hearing that Dave Rapoza would draw the same thing 10 times when studying it.

>>6900218
Thanks Anon, I highly appreciate your feedback
At least I now don't feel like a maniac drawing a sketchbook full with the same objects.

>>6900224
It's important to note what you did wrong the last few times so that you don't end up learning nothing.

>>6900217
Get mogged. Loomis is a hack
>inb4 shittalk
pyw

>>6900231
NTA but lmfao

>>6900231
Nta but
What do you suggest besides Loomis? It’s the only construction I’ve tried so far and I’m not super into it, but I’m also only like a week into this

I started actively thinking while playing fighting games and i was doing way better in my matches, so i got the idea to use my brain while drawing. Just a few minutes ago i was practicing how to draw skulls and used my brain and everything was so much easier....... im so sillay in the head XD

>>6900231
Using a random failed twitter artist’s drawing as bait isn’t very nice

>>6900233
dont see you posting your work
and remember, loomis is a hack

>>6900261
Maybe he is, maybe he isn't, your polished turd doesn't prove either

>>6900231
>this is your art if you skip Loomis
Thanks for the reminder to do my weekly loomis

>>6900231
i know this is probably not even yours, but dios mio...

>>6900247
>use your brain
>things become easier
An excellent life hack with many applications.

>>6900274
loomis is a hack you should know that

>>6900247
Oh yeah? Post work before and after brain activation.

Posting this here too,

Is there anything more I can use to gain 'more' out of the studies? I'm mainly interested in building the body better from imagination. EG building blocks or otherwise parts I could memorize to better recreate similar bodies

>inb4 do real person figure studies
I do

>>6900332
it’s time for vilppu, son

>>6900332
Source for the top?

>>6900023
Good idea.
Your reference doesn't have to be 1:1, if you can find something close enough you should use your imagination for the rest.
Then again, you might end up with feet like this.

>>6900284
Don't do this, it creates nerve gas.

>>6900333
any book you'd recommend? I've already started the Glenn Vilppu - Vilppu Drawing Manual-Vilppu Studio (1997)

>>6900335
professional taiwan artist, believe he does some of the official art for fgo too

>>6900332
don't just contour break down into forms
when you do your study build it up from the forms

>>6900332
use the DIET method
basically one day learning, one day tracing, one day study, one day draw from imagination
repeat until the sun explodes

>>6900351
Imma try the DIE method instead
One day learning how to tie a knot, one day racing to the hardware store and one day in the study.
no need to repeat

I've never tried a video course. I'm going through Keys to Drawing but I also want to try a video course to see what they're like. Any recs for a beginner like me?

>>6900231
wrong thread >>6896959

relationships bros, we cant lose

>>6900381
make sure to take your gf on nice dates and show appreciation for posing

>>6900381
Post ref

>>6900390
Wrong thread, booboo

>>6900393
where should it be posted then?

>>6900391
not anatomically correct perhaps but thats not the point yet

>>6900396
/draw/? /dad/?
Certainly not the beginner thread

>>6900396
don't listen to the retard

>>6900390
Ease up on the skin folds, you're making her look older than she is.

>>6900401
this is from yesterday. yesterday i tried to replicate it more accurately while today i remembered i shouldnt try to copy it 100% but focus more on relationships.

>>6900333
Fuck you, son

>>6900390
The digital painting method isn't bad, but you made her features less appealing...

I do not understand.
To progress, should I be learning from life or not?
I saw several conflicting advice telling me you should start from life, then, maybe copy artworks. Then other claiming the other way around.

>>6900332
If you want to do that, then you need to learn anatomy, look for anatomy books, if you don't learn that, then you won't be able to create coherent bodies.

>>6900414
again, any that you recommend?

>>6900390
The colors looks good

>>6900385
thats not what i meant

>>6900415
Anatomy muscles and poses

https://www.posemaniacs.com/

>>6900402
it's a beg and int thread innit
besides both draw and dad seem pretty dead compared to this one

>>6900406
on it next time

poses imagination

>>6900401
book?

All of my drawings for the last four days have been garbage and it's making me not want to draw. Every single thing is worse than my year 1 stuff. Where did all my gains go?

>>6900431
nice, these would be my goal tier imagination anatomy already

>>6900447
weirdly i just feel undeserved that my sloppy doodles get praises but thanks anon.

>>6900435
bok? bok bok bok bok bok

>>6900431
Not bad at all.
Without any construction?

same shit, different day

>>6900332
use an oval shape or boxes for the ribcage and pelvis, I also like the simple/complex bean torso that Will Weston teaches

Can I get some crit before I continue with this guy?

>>6900495

The proportions are really fucked.

>>6900475
how long have you been drawing?

>>6900169
Hello my niggas
>that waist to shoulder ratio
Feelsbadman

>>6900508
Can you be specific on what you see? I'll go back in with a ruler later.

>>6900513
Not him but his head seems small compared to the body, quads are too thick arms look kinda fuked idk i suck at art lol

>>6900495
Reference. Tried changing the right leg because reference one looks wrong to me.

>>6899908
Fuck it. I drew this when eletricity got fucked tonight.

Starting to think abt making my characters either headless or bald lmao
The hair fucked up everything…

2 manga studies and a try to portrait.

>>6900510
~4 years but I used to doodle when I was a kid

How can I improve the hair light effect?

>>6900474
basically it's a bit of construction with a lot of erasing like this, although i'm not satisfied with this since i still need to fix the torso length and the overall legs but it's just an example of how i did it anyway.

>>6900332
Use vilpu and flcl

>>6900552
What kind of effect are you trying to achieve? Take a work you like/would like to emulate, put it side by side with your drawing and try to match it

can /beg/ draw this?

My kids helped me with this.

>>6900552
Read villpu.

>>6900431
These are pretty impressive. Do you have a blog by any chance?

>>6900562
Let's see

>>6900568
yeah i do
https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/15387022
https://twitter.com/sensan1388

Just started The Art and Science of Drawing. The grip he recommends does take some time to get used to but I feel like it is improving my circles somewhat. How often do you guys like to stretch to alleviate the tired shoulder feeling? I did the both the line and circle projects over 40 minutes and I feel like I should take more frequent breaks than I did.

>>6900563
your kids are certainly based

>>6900602
i’m afraid she may have taken a shovel to the top half of her face

>>6900401
What book is this?

>>6900614
you just described asians

>>6899908
>>6900532
I'll brute force my control over lines even if I die.

>>6900602
dios mio

>>6900602
cute creatura

heads

Can I get a critique on the inking and markers?

doodle in between the retarded ass bridgeman anatomy studies

>>6900661
do you post the studies

>>6900663
sometmies yeahah

>>6900651
isnt funny how much easier it is to draw anime girl heads

fuck the lineart, gonna paint over the sketch and do lineart last.

>>6900552
I think you should embrace that your style is sharp and pointy and put down the airbrush

>>6900652
Anyone?

Sleep...

Can I get some redlines and advice on these, please? I'm trying to get perspective and anatomy down better.

>>6900652
I think it'll look better if you only used the extra thicc lines for the silhouette, if at all. avoid tangents like where the leg meets the armor and the tips of the fingers. think about adding some AO shadows too

Wow!, you aboslutely improved the drawing, what programm and tools do you use to make this edit? I only use Kirta and basic brushes

>>6900695
Wow!, you aboslutely improved the drawing, what programm and tools do you use to make this edit? I only use Kirta and basic brushes

>vilppu lessons last an hour at least
>my adhd zoomer retard brain barely allows me to even focus enough to draw for an hour let alone watch a vid that long

Aaaagghhh
I really wanna get good so i guess i'll just have to muscle through.

>>6900743
read the book and you won't have to put up with his old man wheezes.

>>6900725
What's ao?

>>6900169

>>6900756
Ambient occlusion

So how do you actually get better at construction? I’m pretty good at observing and drawing based off that, but there’s no real construction process. I saw a video of someone breaking down the torso into a bell shape and other parts similarly, and I get it in theory, I just want to know where they learned that. Is it just “learn anatomy and then break each part down during your sketch”?

>>6900719
I think you are trying poses that are too complex for your level
try something simpler like a standing front pose, profile pose and back pose and post the result
to train perspective, first start with separate body parts, do torsos at different angles, then hips, etc...

>>6900761
I used the extra thick line to make it not a tangent anymore, does it look worse?

>>6900750
Book doesnt give me homework and i really need it to stay on track

>"Hell yeah, i have the entire weekend for myself, i'm finally gonna grind drawing like ive never grinded before"
>Proceed to get stressed out whenever you pick up the pen
>Do nothing
>Have to wake up for monday in 5 hours
>Will not have the energy for anything tomorrow either
Ngmi

>>6900475
i really like your stuff, very sexy. Got inspired, hope you don't mind.

>>6900677
i love it and agree, fuck lineart lol.

>>6900677
I fucking love robot girls do you have a blog?

>>6900526
unreal that you had the gall to think the reference was fucked up

>>6900781
looks really good bro!

>>6900169
Hello. You said my values suck and I should be painting in Gray Scale to learn. That's what I am doing at the moment. How do I carry this on? If I add darker values to the girl, the current ones become halftones. If I add lighter, the values scheme breaks. I've seen however pieces that use the full value scale in the focal point, unlike mine. I'm confused bros, if someone can help me out here I'd appreciate. Thanks in advance.

Reference.
Tell me how badly I fucked up.

>>6900802
Her eyes are too close together.

So learning anatomy is basically a matter of reading books on it, looking at references, and practising until you eventually know it by heart and don't have to look up stuff, right?

More fruit

>>6900782
@nemojona.

>>6900817

>>6900815
loomis reccomends having an anatomy book to referencs during life drawing class

>>6900280
i love when a ngmi tries to redline

More loomis

When does sunk cost factor into a drawing you know like when you’ve already wasted so much time on it that it simply can’t be worth completing

>>6900827
He didn't redline you fool, he traced the outline of the body in the pic
Redlining is when you draw how it's supposed to be
Any fucker could see that pic had bad anatomy

>>6900768
copy random anon's construction and see if any of it helps... is what I would say but the latter part of your post confused me. Are you asking how to break down forms into shapes?

>>6900852

>>6900280
>>6900845
>he traced the outline of the body in the pic
Worthless /beg/ input. Either fix the image or don't touch it at all.

>>6900860
worthless /nodraw/ post.

Havent drawn the whole weekend despite having had earnest intentions to do so.
Why am i like this /beg/?
I'll never get good if i keep this up

>>6900863
listen to tim pychyl talk about procrastination
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhFQA998WiA

Does anyone know any good resources about cel shading?

Did the third row of the Bargue eyes. I feel like my hand-eye coordination is improving a bit, when I was doodling around it was a easier to get the lines to go where I wanted them. Could just be placebo though.

>>6900677
pretty cool robogirl
before you proceed, try to fix her thighs and thighhighs, which seem to be in a different perspective from the rest of the figure.

>>6900884
you ruined it

>>6900888
elaborate further

>>6900884
you saved it

Sup beg, last batch of religion autism. Next time shall be loomis heads!

>>6900818
nice thot
>>6900802
go into any graphic editor like krita: filter > adjust > levels
then start moving the sliders until your picture has pure white spots and pure black ones. then resume rendering
>inb4 that isnt good workflow
well then next time use full value range from start!
>>6900781
i coom i mean kneel
>>6900768
do a book about construction? scot robertson - how to draw for constructing mechanical shapes in perspective, framed - perspective vol 2 for constructing buildings and people or literally any figure drawing book from loomis, hogart, bridgeman, morpho?
>>6900722
thumbs up but missing background is a shame
>>6900737
anon... he literally used hard round brush, that is called "basic" in krita
>>6900651
mogs my loomis heads
>>6900606
the way how i sit at table and draw on screenless table its impossible to use that grip or shoulder. but if you are tradchad who draws on big angled surface then it makes sense. Take that books advice with grain of salt.
>>6900602
cute loli
>>6900563
your kids need to learn perspective made easy :-)
>>6900549
very nice
>>6900511
bridgman would be proud
>>6900440
idk about gains, but heads look okay to me
>>6900413
less thinking, more drawing. drawing from life/photo is harder than doing master studies because the master already simplified and pre-chewed the life for you on his canvas. And yes you want to be doing both.
>>6900390
finally painter chad entered our begcave!
>>6900211
you learn drawing X by trying to draw X. That said it doesnt have to be exact same 1 copy. For example to learn drawing heads you can practice trying to draw various heads in various angles and face expressions and races, it doesnt have to be 1 photo of donald trump over and over until you get passing grade
>>6900180
you dont lose anything by doing quick pass of keys to drawing. if you have the fundies you should finish all the assignments quickly

>>6900884
i like his original style more. you improved her leg construction but shes fat now.

>>6900889
Ribcage is too low.

>>6900390
Not on model.
Nice though. Cool colors. Where'd you find the refs? Did you just google "blue and orange lighting", or something more specific?

>>6900775
>>6900652
>Tangent
They're bullshitting you there are no tangents in your drawing. The closest there is is MAYBE the one on the rib/chest armor but I don't consider it because it's clear and not jarring.
>AO
More unnecessary buzzword bullshit. It looks cool stop fucking with it do another.

>>6900815
Yes. Keeping a book on it is for problem areas/art block/ inspo, etc.

>>6900860
>>6900861
The image has barely any problems. The left shoulder and the right ribcage and they aren't far off. Better than most on /ic/ stupid crabs.

>>6900879
Red circle isn't it. Red circle is right. Right hand is the fucked up bit.

>>6900931
You cause me an existential crisis and the need to scream.

>>6900401
source?

>>6900931
i want to hug her

day 97
I am fucking KILLING MYSELF AND TAKING THIS GENERAL WITH ME
I CANT FUCKING DRAW HAIR STILL, WHY DOES IT LOOK LIKE SHIT

>>6900332
you'll get more if you don't stop halfway through

>>6900931
smoking 99% of ic as always

check it
>>6900000
>>6900000
>>6900000

>>6900910
It's what I'm currenlty trying to work on

And just pinterest, it's full of these kinds of references

>>6900899
based pawell again giving me my only (you)

I hate my life, my whole family is white low IQ trash and I can't escape I have the strong urge to kill my father

pawell will never make it

>>6900994
Are you closer to making it than Pawell?

>>6900978
R u a girl

Wasn't born to make it but i did.
-Shakue Tupac

>>6900978
As a man you can never be able to live your own life unless you're genuinely prepared for and at peace with the thought of physically fighting your father.
Unless you do that you'll every decision will be taintes by yhe threat hw represents.

i painted badguy from guiltygear

>>6900737
>>6900899

Pawell is right. I used hard round brush and the lasso tool. I use Procreate, but what I did is absolutely possible with Krita. If you're going for the animated cartoon look try to set your stabilization a bit higher, your lines need to be smooth and crisp.

I think you would like Bruce Timm's work. Try to copy some of his drawings and I'm 100% sure you'll see improvement in no time.

>>6900169
I'm doing fine, right?
I'm going to wrap her in clothes but I still don't want to cut shortcuts when I am just studying still

Ive found consistently that pic related was the method most artists were trained as students pre 1900's. Is this the unironic best way to proceed with learning to draw?

>>6901035
what's her hand resting on?

>>6901037
yes. The whole point is to copy art before life. You can do the same by starting by copying Bridgman / Morpho, then copying your favorite manga, anime, and twitter artists, then finally drawing from life, if you want. I've seen many artists who have said that they never learned proper construction and life drawing, and they learned how to draw through only model sheets and copying comics

>>6901018
gaslit me daddy

>>6901037
what, like, an atelier?

Old study

anyone understand or relate when i say i think i’m focused on copying to make something look good without fully understanding construction? i don’t think what i attempt to learn ever sticks because i practice improperly.

>>6901048
Fantastical study. Great understand of colors even when needs more depth

>>6901049
the construction helps with placing the rythmn and gesture lines which helps the figure fit together better which helps when copying.

>>6901048
Great colors, nice eye but you really fucked up the proportions through the rest of the face. I would try to trace first in order to get a better feel of the face proportions.

Thoughts on the rendering/expression similarity?

there are also some basic proportion mismatches with the shape of the face, I can get pretty close but its really hard to get 1 to 1 with a face's resemblance. any tips?

>>6901035
See if you like these suggestions

>>6901064
COOM

>>6901063
As far as similarity it looks fairly similar but the expression doesn't come close enough to the original.
>Tips
My guess is that the left side ended up broader than the original because you weren't able to capture the mouth expression and tried to compensate in a way.
Shorten the distance bet the nose and the mouth and close the distance from temple to the jaw from the left side with the same diagonal line from the right side.

>>6901063
The expression doesn't line up at all. He's smirking. So his mouth is being pulled upwards and to one side. In yours his mouth is like actually crooked and going the opposite direction.

>>6901064
How to git gud?

>>6901063
You are drawing his eyebrows like a woman's. Look how much lower his brows are in the ref.

>>6901057
i’m talking about a bad habit. like i’m not fully focused on learning to draw better and consistently.

>>6901080
copy anime, unironically
more precisely, doujins by good artists because they are experts in anatomy
and read good books like morpho

>>6900884
I think I get what you mean. Right leg was too visible for its supposed angle. Thanks fo the headsup. Also this shit is way too busy for painting as is, so Im doing lineart now.

>>6901080
Just like everyone else on this board, do AI, trace it and pass it as an original art work.

>>6901092
looks pretty nice robogirl anon

>>6900602
>>6900431
Unironically post these on your twitter. This type of stuff is more appealing than the posts you have there

>>6900743
>>6900777
What lesson are you on? I'm going through renaissance figure drawing class right now. we can go through it together anon

>>6900883
Looking good anon. Getting faster too. That means your confidence is going up.

>>6900677
love this shit

>>6900931
>>6901018
i come back to /ic/ after a year+, and it's somewhat comforting to see that some things never change

>>6901037
That is the whole point of doing bargue plates and still life drawings.

learning anatomy feels so grueling
i need to grind more but the bugman part of my brain wants to draw anime and i get bored after an hour

>>6901129
I study anatomy while drawing anime

>>6901129
>>6901134
are you on grindr btw

This is a dumb question but when you pick a recommended anatomy book, do you simply read it to better understand anatomy better? Or should you be doing that, and trying to sketch what you’re seeing in the book?

>>6901142
you read and copy the images

>>6901142
draw what's in the book, dummy

>>6901142
Most drawing books have exercises on them as you go along with the theory you practice what you've learned by the end of the chapter

>>6901150
but if they don’t, you should try and copy the drawings in the book (like morpho’s)

>>6901152
I don't see the point in mindlessly copying. If that's the case you should just draw.
Try to understand the logic behind of what you're reading first.

>>6900943
keys to drawing

>>6901154
>I don't see the point in mindlessly copying.
this post made me irrationally angry at you, and I was going to call you mean things. Why would you say something so pointless? How else can you learn from Morpho besides copying. If you're afraid that the shapes and forms you just drew are going to disappear from your memory, you should follow up your copies with memory drawing and a figure drawing session. Don't be stupid, and don't say stupid things.

>>6901171
Don't be angry at me because you're illiterate. If just drawing works for you then do so.
I prefer to understand what I'm doing and why I'm doing it and that works for me.

>>6901182
you'll learn someday, beg

>>6901123
>i come back to /ic/ after a year+, and it's somewhat comforting to see that some things never change
lol yeah you could come back in five years and those two will still be shitting up the board that’s just what permabegs do

>>6901144
>>6901148
>>6901150
>>6901152
Thanks. I’m using Morpho’s and nothing in here suggests I should draw any of it, just useful information. I’m still drawing everything, but I was just wondering if I was using it wrong.

they requested mario penis
look at his penis
uncut chads rise up

>>6901123
>>6901220
>i come back to /ic/ after a year+, and it's somewhat comforting to see that some things never change
that really pisses me off ngl

I wish that my males had more hardness or "edge", like David Finch's guys. Even if I copied his guys though they'd still come out looking doughy. idk what do to different.

>>6901018
you piss me off

>>6901100
maybe if i slap some touhou's face into them but they're just blank faces poses anyway so they don't have much appeal to wider audiences to bother to post in my blogs, also those anime faces study are from settei i got the link from an /asg/ anon a while back. Here's the link if anyone interested https://setteidreams.net/settei/

>>6901220
what he do

>>6901244
Dafuq did I do to you?

>>6901258
making people lump me up with the likes of you

>>6901243
make them blocky and use straight lines rather than curves

>>6901260
Well fuck you.

>>6901268
good, fuck you too nigga. permabeg bitch, pot calling the kettle black etc.

>>6901273
Oh yeah well you’re a nigger faggot

>>6901285
oh ya well yo mama never loved you
i bet you bitch ass katsunei had more love for his mom than you do

Month 2 Day 12 of learning
Trying to make your own stuff is hard, but I think i'm getting a tiny bit better at it, this is my...4th? attempt at an original piece

I see why people do thumbnails for poses and composition, once I got like 75% through this drawing I realized it looked very stiff and would be difficult to salvage, so I just stopped early

>>6901266
Here's a study of finch on the right and an attempt to mimic from imagination on the left. Ended up with a weird ecorche looking guy.

Day 8 of learning the basics n whatnot. Trying to being more loose with my sketches while using more searching lines and trying to draw more from imagination. Seems like I have a hard time actually drawing animal faces, especially when it's head on. Practiced simple values with 2 skulls, but I botched the bottom one. Wasn't able to continue with the Proko course to learn something new today, so I'll get on that tomorrow. Also, does anyone have any recommendations for a drawing tablet? Preferably one that's not so expensive, lol. Don't wanna go crazy on a tablet when I'm still learning. My current one keeps freezing randomly, and only works if I replug it.

>>6901293
>>6901243
are you avoiding drawing eyes? when you close your eyes the top eyelid goes down not the other way around

>>6901300
is this what counts as, non "permabeg" shit
just draw other shit besides what i have been drawing what that schizo goblin bitch draws?

>>6901220
although I noticed that he's moved on from esdeath, so that's a change

>>6901316
i ain't that guy

>>6901320
in my mind, you always were

>>6901306
Drawing male eyes as slits is normal.

>>6901325
delusional

>>6900614
They're copies of a model sheet. That's genuinely how they look.

>>6901330
Anon didn't make the side view noses steep enough compared to the ref. It's only subtle difference but the effect is kinda noticeable. I still think his work is cute though

How long should it take a midwitt to learn the croquis from front, side and 45?
(From memory)

Am I getting anything from copying my favourite artists even if I am too new to understand their decision making?
I can copy their work from observation and take note of why they made things look certain ways, but I don’t have much of a construction process, so it’s basically just contours from the get-go.

>>6901364
About 3 50

beg here
I only have the desire to draw digitally atm

What are some daily practices (or even more frequent) I can do that can help me better get my fundamentals down?

I was looking for the name of an ancient artist, he drew for newspapers and press books, his drawings had a lot of kinetic energy, the only thing I remember is a drawing of two elephants skating on ice. I seek to recreate the movement that that drawing expresses and to do so I want to see their work.

>>6901376
Heinrich kley

Whats some good anatomy books for learning the female body, and more importantly the attractive parts?

The recommended books here do 80% on men and then just say oh you can change this and this to have a woman

>>6901377
thanks so much!

>>6901325
well if that's the case then i shall take his mantle in honor for him to return by drawing and studying Esdeath myself, catch all the diseases in the world for the world won't have no more diseases ya feel me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEYO0rKL6vk

>>6901380
I love you uwu kiss me

I need to start over. Who would you say is THE best teacher for perspective and proportion stuff?

For the last week I was chugging along as a beg but now I feel really overwhelmed with options, I’d appreciate some input on how to spread my resources out.

Right now, I’m going through Proko’s basic course, and it’s really easy so I’ll probably be done soon. I also have drawabox because I heard, for it being free, it’s a really good fundamentals course. It’s besides these two that I’m a bit confused.

Is anatomy something you’ll have to pick up a book to learn, or are there reputable anatomy courses too? What about things like construction, or lighting, and all that? Should I just complete one course at a time and supplement it with as much drawing and studies that I can?

>>6901411
The first part of figure drawing for all it's worth is pretty good for that purpose. Not sure about it being THE best doe

>>6901411
>>6901414
Keep it stupid simple

>>6901416
>and have sex
It’s over…

>>6900949
Keep at it Anon only 3 more days left to go! Btw how are you doing this? I am in awe!

>>6901416

almost fell asleep without drawing today

>anime vs how it's actually are

>>6900602
S2 never

Too tired to redo the honking big mass reply I just lost to the internet gremlins. Here’s some stuff.
>>6898010
Added legs
>>6899240
Gave it a shot. Tricky perspective with everything going on in her back being so foreshortened.
>>6900805
Whomst

>>6900863
I have not done anything in months

>>6901064
Thanks my nigga
I was having a hard time with flat chest

Not sure if that foreshortening will be better though.
It kinda...makes it unbalanced. But I will take it for studies next time

>>6901441
Literally me top right btw

>>6901103
Lesson 0 of nothing yet
I intend to get started in a out four hours.
Gonna be doing the basic figure drawing

>>6901456
Have drawn less than 20 things since last year

>>6901293
sauce on right ref image? also looks pretty good to me, it’s tough because irl the difference between looking striking instead of normal is just a few mm of bone.

One issues that sticks out are your jawlines are much rounder/smaller/too high up compared to Finch’s, the angle of the jaw should be squarer and lower.

How come the line work looks so different from the reference? Is it because it's not shaded?

>>6901567

Ref

God I wanna rope. I've been studying and I notice improvements within my studies. Then I go attempt to draw something from reference or imagination and I feel no better than I did a year ago.

>>6901568
>>6901567
Why did you give her a jew nose

>>6901567
It has nothing to do with shading and everything to do with accuracy. It's because the lines, shapes, angles and proportions are out of place. Lower the opacity of one of the images and overlay them to see how close you got.

>>6892361

>>6901580
Hug me big lady

>>6901580
the fucking thighs on that bitch

>>6901551
thanks

Trying to figure this pose. Idea is a guy about to throw a big ascending slash while pivoting forward off his front foot.

>>6901583
>>6901584
This is why I wanted to draw her yes, good taste gentlemen.

>>6901604
Front shoulder should be lower than rear shoulder

>>6901634
Exaggerate it more? To my eye it already is.

>>6901573
Wdym the nose is too small?

>>6900996
yes because I actually draw what I want to do instead of chronically procrastinating by endless grinding loomis heads and other meaningless shit

>>6900169

>>6901639
disregard. I misunderstood what you meant by ascending slash.

>>6901662
>tranny proportioned anime girl

>>6901639
>>6901604
Not sure if my drawings will help but bending that far down will lose power in the swing.

>>6901604
https://www.youtube.com/@KougaSekido

>>6901660
Doubt

>>6901575
Ill be real with, I tried that, the one I sent has alr been aligned more or less with the image but it still looks diff

>>6901672
Thanks anon, will give it a go.

>>6901666
>TRANNIES TRANNIES TRANNIES TRANNIES TRANNIES TRANNIES TRANNIES
meds

>>6901674
Thinking more European traditions, it's basically just an exaggerated nebenhut.

>>6901666
pyw, satan

>>6901660
While I agree his method is shit I don't see why someone who's not posting his work feels entitled to shit on a guy who doesn't spam and seems to be nice to everyone.

>>6901694
1. mass replying is spamming
2. what makes you think that anon hasn't posted his work already?

>>6901688
No (;

>>6901698
1. If you give a shit about two or three parts on a thread then you need to get a life
2. If he's progressing better than pawell he could have easily proven it and shut me up.

never forget: loomis is a hack

>>6901702
mass replying is spamming, regardless of whatever pathetic excuse for a rebuttal you give.

it is time
to draw

can you fuckers not talk about petty shit

>>6901707
Giving critique or feedback or advice is better than not. Rather have mass reply posts like Pawell than the status quo of the closest thing to advice a lot of anons getting being "looks like shit".

>>6901717
Baser. About time somebody posted porper exercise feeling the form like I can't even believe. Good job man.

>>6901378

>>6901736
Bridgman has a book about drawing women? Are they just sketches recycled from complete guide to constructive anatomy or unique to that book.

thoughts on this? spent around 40 minutes on it, i was trying to be quick about it.
texturing for example, its at least clear what material this is supposed to be, right?
i called it shit the other day myself. but looking back i dont think its that bad.

>>6901765
Push your damn values anon.

>>6901765

Drew bird

>>6901792
Based

>>6901378
https://exhentai.org/g/2676935/afc594ef06/
https://exhentai.org/g/1505296/3050b3b077/
https://exhentai.org/g/1139944/79abd49230/

>>6901736
>Drawing the Female Figure
Has this been scanned?

>>6901792
Great shapes. Solid looking birb.

>>6900863
>>6901456
>>6901512
>There is one thing not to do, and that is simply to drift along with the daily routine, making no extra effort. You will soon find yourself middle-aged, having done nothing more than routine jobs, and being little farther along than you were years ago. The extra effort is the difference between the great mass of mediocre artists and the comparatively small group of very good ones.
>And in Art, study can never stop. You will find sketches galore in the studio of the good man, with the paint quite fresh. The mediocre artist's sketches are old and dusty.
>I have seen so many middle-aged artists still hoping, whose samples are frayed at the edges, and thumb-marked with time. Sometimes it has been a matter of years since they sat down and actually did something to give their hopes any promise. They are plodding their lives away at something they hate, and doing nothing about it. These are the men who never seem to have had a chance. The truth is, they never seized a chance.
>Loomis

>>6901822
seconding

>>6901818
>Clicks link
>just brings up white screen
NTA but I'm not too sure if I'm missing something here

>>6901853
https://e-hentai.org/g/2676935/afc594ef06/
https://e-hentai.org/g/1505296/3050b3b077/
First two don't actually need to be e-hentai links.
The third one and https://exhentai.org/g/2487997/9565bd32f3/ do need to be exhentai links.

>>6901878
>>6901878
new one
>>6901878
>>6901878
>>6901878
>>6901878

>>6901510
Can you show me a screenshot/title of which one? I'm not sure which one is the basic figure drawing course. From the /ic/ torrent?

>>6901676
nta but try it again. Face proportions are very subtle. Subtle things, even like the curve of her lower eye being different from the reference will make it look off. You also made her face a bit wider and taller. You gave her a bit of a man-jaw

>>6900949
damn, I got mogged hard on this ref. good shit, anon, keep it up! looking forward to your next stuff

i just want to learn anatomy, i know how to draw cube in 1,2, and 3 vanishing point, can i jump to anatomy?