/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

20 min color study of an egg
was hard

Finished big Soka

Haven't drawn in a while thoughts?

>>6889177
Hard to read, but I like the line work and shapes
>>6889174
Looks good, but you should post the ref unless this was from life

Hello, I have a question of the people, do y’all think tracing my own hand and using free use hand outlines for art devalidates it? I love drawing and feel guilty for this! But I take a VERY long time to get my artwork done, I always perfect it and make it look amazing but it takes hours upon hours to the point of me making
unsmart decisions with time adding unnecessary details from zoning out. Please give me your opinions!!! (This art is not being commercially sold)

>>6888865

Yes. I am diagnosed. What helps me is building a routine and forcing myseslf to draw at least one thing a day, and it works wonders. I usually draw around 1 and 2 hours a day. Not much, but at least I draw. Sometimes I use alcohol, sometimes kratom, but most of the time it's coffee.

>>6889176
why did you make everything dark

>>6889177
>Haven't drawn in a while
I can see that, it looks like shit

>>6889184
Because it's fun and I like it

>>6889177
isn't the guy touching him losing years of his life per second

>>6889195
kek

Love the Vilppu memes

>>6889195
Glassblower moment

>>6889205
100% sovlful crosseye waifu

i took a 3 month hiatus from drawing and i want to get back to it but i’m scared
it’s all going to be so ugly again

>>6889208
>it’s all going to be so ugly again
It is. And it's going to be okay.

Back at it again with face sketches, this time I feel like I made a bunch of proportional mistakes.

Mainly concerned with the eye / 5head I think. Thoughts? what's off anons?

>>6889211
you can park a car between the nose and mouth

>>6889208
Anon, it will be ugly. But that WILL fade if you put the time in.

I've never taken a hiatus and came back without my art eventually being better than I ever made. Still /beg/ but regardless

>>6889184
Probably because Dark side and Sith and shit.

>>6889213
You're so right, what the fuck am i doing, am i blind? I didn't even flip the canvas,

thanks anon :D

>>6889189
femboy pussy worth it

>>6889211
I think overall this is good. Proportionally, the only thing that bugs me is his ears being different sizes. Aside from that I'd remove SOME of the shading around his right eye (instead of lighting it looks more like a black eye) and his left eyebrow looks thin and his nose looks flat, like the nostrils just kind of stop.

GGs

>>6889211
looks good to me, i dont think his philtrum is super long but the lack of definition on top of his lip makes it look larger than it is

>>6889176
nice swastika i guess, aside from that - garbage

Painting's pretty tough, this is nowhere near finished, and I need to fix the colors on the face.
The CSP default brushes are pretty neat.

Sweet jesus, skulls are hard to paint
used one hour on this and still far from finished
fucking epic, bro. I feel like i'm NGMI

How do I improve my sketch quality? I feel all my sketches look way too messy and scrappy and I want them to look a bit cleaner

>>6889273
try bridgman

>>6889262
>used one hour on this
an hour is fucking nothing mate

>>6889273
use light pressure when you're actually sketching and put down firm confident lines after, might help to use a mechanical pencil as well

>>6889275
sorry bro i'm a complete /beg/, can you tell me what bridgman is?

>>6889273
first, sharpen your pencil and use a hard one like 4h or a mechanical one, then use lighter lines

should i focus on a morpho (simplified forms) or loomis (figure drawing) book this month? or should i just flip a coin?

Tell me what you think...

>>6889288
shit value control plus dead eyed

>>6889288
ugly as sin

Any tricks for memorizing shapes as fast as possible? So that these tricks are faster than just drawing over and over again.

>>6889290
Jealous

>>6889291
Jealous

>>6889288
It's so good, I'm jealous

>>6889297
>ask for opinion
>gets opinion
>j-jealous!
You're the biggest permabeg on this board, and your existence is just a joke

bottom right is basically tracing the rest two my attempts.

>>6889211
Added darker values, finished the neck, shrunked jaw and moved up the mouth, and moved the eye after flipping the canvas and seeing it's off.

Is this better or worse? Any tips are appreciated.

>>6889288
this is the best thing ive seen in my life im so jealous oh my god i wish i were you im going to kill myself now bye

>>6889319
OP here. It looks almost exactly the same, ignore me I'm tripping xp.

>>6889288
Always forget this guy's name. Not nice to claim as yours though.

People are selling AI ref packs now.

>>6889329
At a one second glance, there's a broken wrist, caved in breast and a leather strap doing a disappearing act. The seller claims they've spent "many hours" and putting in "a lot of work" editing this.

OK /ic/ I decided to get in a desktop wallpaper contest as an excuse to get better on backgrounds and I decided to paint over a picture from a trip to Corfu I had last year.
I am unfortunately very dissapointed with the results as all I've basically done is cleanups and cleanups and painting all day and it more less looks the same when I want it to have a sense of painting

I am taking a break for now and going to take a nap but I want some ideas.
And feedback about how you'd go about painting something like this.

I've been down bad lately but I will get back to serious practice

>>6889174
very based, I squint a little and its like real life

>>6889176
yup thats based and fun

>>6889205
cutie!

>>6889208
I've been down bad lately too. I recommend drawing on public transport, it's the most ideal time because it's boring as shit

>>6889258
yeah I like the texture that gives

>>6889262
well if that makes you feel better, a value bar exercise takes me 30 minutes. I dig it tho, just saying

>>6889288
>>6889297
I remembed when you posted the girl with the rose a few weeks ago, I would say the same. The values are random and so it gives the face a dirty look and distorts your form.

>>6889195
>nigga fell for the copy Pawell twice meme
ngmi

>>6889352
>not grinding Pawell plates
NGMI

>>6888148
Finished illustration

>>6889387
gorgeous. you have a talent.

Is anatomy for sculpters still the recommended book for learning anatomy?
I can do basic construction okayish by now but really need to learn some actual anatomy to apply to my cylinders and boxes

>>6889329
>>6889333
selling but not actually selling right? dont tell me theres people retarded enough to buy this dog shit

>>6889409
Thanks for the kind words

>>6889387
The arm reaching out is elongated not foreshortened

who do people manage to draw human bodies using boxes
shit always ends up looking weird

>>6889425
You can't do that without a good understanding of perspective first. I'd suggest Krenz Box exercise sheet, but even that might be too advanced if you aren't familiar with basic perspective.

>>6889410
Why would it not be.

>>6889431
>Krenz
I hope whoever started this meme trips into a big cactus.

>>6889437

>>6889437
How is it a meme, lmao
I actually sat down for around 2 to 3 days giving the whole 0 22.5 45 and 67.5 degrees of rotation on a cube a try, and although I am not that smart I improve my sense of perspective a lot

>no mood to drooow
okay it's gaming time

>>6889258
finished it, there's some part i'm not that proud, mostly with the hair shapes, and some of the face rendering

I made a video about drawing!
I want to learn video editing and today I just had this idea. I'm open for feedback of all kinds! Enjoy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_ydAWa34Z0

>>6889343
I think you should add some hair cover the sides of her head more, but these are cute :)
>yup thats based and fun
Thank you!

>>6889505
nice

I've noticed that many professional artists are bad at drawing a character holding a gun without the gun ending up pointing in a different direction than the arm.

I will make sure to someday grind this skill in isolation until I can publicly shame all of them.

The skull grind continues
After im done painting this bad boy, I think ill do some simple 1 minute gesture drawings of the skull

still trying to finish this up, but i have a rough idea of what it'll hopefully look like

So here is a thing that's been bugging me, while this reference study looks pretty crude and crap, it actually took me over an hour to actually draw both.

The reason was I would make an error, and rather than leave it, I would erase the error until I eventually got the result that looked closest to the reference source...but is this a bad habit to do early on?

Like I keep thinking erasing my errors rather than just leaving them may slow down my growth as an artist. Granted, I am getting far more accurate with my studies (with a 60-75% closeness despite some inferiorities/less detail) but am I actually improving or is it just an illusion?

Also I am thankfully gonna go back to drawing humans for a bit, which will be interesting as I haven't done many in a few days besides hands and legs.

>>6889592
You are doing it correctly.

>>6889596
Really?

Well, I'll keep at it then, especially when I do the figure studies, I'll also redo some figure studies I did two weeks ago to see how far I've come since (just to see if I can draw them properly now...probably can).

anyone here done vocational art school in Japan? I’m considering which route is the best for gaining all around fundies for people who manage to have careers in animation and illustration both. It seems like the best work comes from star students in animation courses, even though the majority of animation work shown is lacking in fundamentals. Whereas the illustration courses emphasize the most fundies and technical study, and the quality of work on display is overall consistently good but not exceptional. Or am I overthinking it and the important thing is to just work hard

>>6889174
I also like Lighting Mentor's channel

>>6889576
30 min

Drew the first two Bargue eyes. It was kind of calming and meditative. I could focus hard.

>>6889592
>makes mistake
>erases it to fix it
>is this a bad habit
yes fixing your mistakes is a bad habit

>>6889657
I have no idea sometimes, especially with the insistence on line confidence, so I assume it was kinda like that.

shortstack heal slut

>>6889678
5.5 heads is a bit much for a shortstack imo

>LE HECKING BOXERINOS FOR FUNDAMENTALS
(this one was pretty fun)

>>6889782
Try to reserve thin lines for far away objects, the triangular prism drawn with thin lines on top of the box drawn with thicker lines looks out of place and kinda breaks the illusion you established with perspective

>>6889782
Custom kitchen deliveries~

its my coloring ok? its too messy? any tips to improve?

always feel free to roast if u want to

3min each.

my fave <3

I’ve been told it’s best to spend most of your time drawing traditionally on paper before getting comfortable with digital even if digital is your end goal. Is there any truth to this or just nonsense?

im pretty sure it’s one of those “it’s not the tool, it’s the artist” type situations but default brushes in software like photoshop feel crazy bad to me. im a noob so I don’t really know shit but it feels like they’re all so manufactured and bubbly, lacking any personality. are you supposed to just find a good artist’s brushes and stick with them for life or something? How are you even supposed to know what a good brush is?

wip any crit?

>>6889825
cropped it better

>>6889825
>>6889826
Cool. Neck is really long.

>>6889678
The drill hair could use more cleanup and have a better flow, the one in the middle especially, I'm assuming you'll refine the lineart so I won't comment on that.

Tips head anatomy?

>>6889846
None it's unique in its own way

Sup beg. I am looming. This shit is insanely hard. I legit have to use full power level combining practically all perspective tricks AND observation drawing and i still fuck up in grand beg style. The people who go and recommend this book to begs are sadists.

>>6889826
mogs me
>>6889814
>default brushes feel crazy bad to me
you are not alone. i already tried out 7 different drawing apps and apart from Rebelle in all other apps 95% of default brushes are COMPLETE ASS. Even in the paid apps like CSP or PaintStorm Studio. This is most likely due to apps being developed by coders instead of drawers.
>supposed to know what a good brush is
that is part of skill learning curve of digi tools. eventually you will learn how to create your own brushes which suits your needs. Pro beg tip: texture of paper + hard round brush + random rotation, pressure both increase size + opacity, paint mode multiply or darken
>>6889809
it is nonsense. the only advantage of trad is that you cannot abuse undo and arent overwhelmed by endless options of software
>>6889797
put a little more effort into canvas before asking for crit
>>6889782
kek. i kneel
>>6889678
give me your gains!
>>6889592
RESTATING, why does no beg ever do keys to drawing???
https://archive.org/details/Keys_to_Drawing/page/14
>>6889529
kinda flat at some places. you probably want to combine crosshatching with your water colors to have more defined forms and greater value range
>>6889505
depressing video missing punchline. TV news are already full of these by default. Thumbs down
>>6889480
i kneel
>>6889436
well made
>>6889317
cute
>>6889297
anon you keep reposting these, dont you have new stuff?
>>6889195
lmao
>>6889174
this is one of the scenarios where drawer should "edit" the reality. your egg looks like its cut in half due to small shades. i would enlarge the shades to imply whole egg form is there on table.

when no one answers (You), Pawell delivers.

>Spend four hours painting a princess for my princess
>she hugs the paper and bends it all up

idk how to feel

>>6889911
wheres the paint

>>6889911
Feel good, anon. Feel good.

>>6889914
here >>6889529
Strawberry Shortcake still needs to be transferred to watercolor paper and inked.

>>6889911
I would recommend painting on something that can withstand hugs. Or explaining the need to be delicate with painted paper princesses.

>>6889172
Can someone redline my blue line
It’s just a wip so no hands or head but I don’t need those demonstrated. Just a body check please and thank you!

>>6889798
>>6889799
What’d you study to get there?

>>6889177
I need advice on how I can improve this further
it looks sucky but I don't really know why

KtD portrait, big step in difficulty for this book. then getting filtered by a zip. at least the portrait came out better than usual

>>6889846
soul
>>6889814
defaults are usually fine enough but community always finds a better way. the csp default pencil sucks shit though
>>6889640
nice, good accuracy
>>6889436
nice
>>6889343
i like your linework on the left
>>6889329
this is fucked, every piece of it is busted in some way. how much are they charging?

>drawing the head inside a box
Is that really worth doing?
Sure the perspective will be easier but it seems so cumbersome and quite frankly unnecessary.

>>6890024
what do you think construction lines are? They're representations of the box. They're XYZ lines

It's a mess

I drew this. What do I need to improve on for next time?

>>6889855
you are my greatest ally

>>6890024
they're training wheels anon

>>6890059
not enough boxes

Never drawn a thing in my life, I watched a single video on how to draw the outline of a head about 20 minutes ago, want to get really good. Where do I go from here?

how do i stop my brush in krita from doing that?

>>6890135
Make a new layer.

>>6890139
1. doesnt work
2. im not gonna make a new layer for every line

>>6890140
Dont use transparency unless you want to see whats beneath. What the fuck anon, how do you expect it to look?

>>6890144
it's not transparency, it's pen pressure
i want a lighter tone, i don't want to draw flat black

>>6890140
no idea if it's different in krita but in photoshop this is because you are using transfer, which ties transparency with pen pressure

>>6890135
>>6890140
>>6890147
That's a retarded request, but here's how
Draw with white

>>6890161
the request isn't retarded, your solution is retarded

>>6890134
Just keep copying anime and stuff from real life and try to draw what you actually see. This is hard at first but it will help you look at things more carefully

>>6890164
How come? The request is value change by pressure and the solution is exactly that

>>6889855
>thinking im going to take advice from a permabeg
youre funny sometimes

>>6890147
>its not transparency
It is anon. Maybe you mean you dont want transparency? I think you should start with an analog coloring book and a limited crayon selection

>>6890053
gorgeous. you have a talent

>>6890135
I've unironically asked this question on multiple occasions across different threads and have never gotten an answer

>>6890205
nice samefag, bro

>>6890208
we've found something that good artists keep a secret to gatekeep

Change the blending mode to greater. It’s the first thing that shows up when you google this anon.

>>6890135

>>6890219
that's even worse, now it does it even on a single stroke

>>6890220

Lmaoing at these anons with their 1000 euro drawing simulators not being able to replicate a 50c pen. Bad decision making for several years led to this

>1000 euro
he wishes it were so, when in truth having a drawing tablet for one year is cheaper than drawing supplies
also pyw bitch

>>6890225
If I could only figure out how to use it too it would be worth it

>>6890229
read nigger

>>6890225
>pyw
Ok, why not. Marker, default settings '23

>>6889911
Maybe she will understand why you don't randomly throw or squeeze stuff. Might save your money you would spend replacing broken vases and the like.

hmmm

>>6890134
>look at thing
>try to draw it
>if it looks bad figure out why
>try again while paying attention to your previous mistake
>repeat until it looks good

>>6890134
train your eye (accuracy)
train your hand (dexterity)
train your mind (3d thinking)
train your soul (imagination)

so when you have no skill set or visual library yet, what is valuable to just "draw"? I mean I'm sure the more you try the better you'll get but like, if you want to draw a person and you suck at it, do you just keep trying or should you refer to better artists who draw better people than you, and then use that?

>>6890260
I just shit myself
made a big, fat caca in pants

>>6890236
looks like fucking shit, if this is how a single line looks then I worry about your works
oh right, you're a nodraw anyway
>>6890233
idk how you did that but it doesnt work for me
>painting mode - build up
>spacing - auto 0.6

>>6890263
anon, he told you to put blendmode to greater...
mix>greater

>>6890260
Keep trying
Look at how other people do it sure but never stop trying
Don‘t stop drawing people for a month to practice boxes or some shit

>>6890260
>if you want to draw a person and you suck at it, do you just keep trying
Look at reference to figure out where you went wrong and try again.

>>>/vp/54685792
By cross board linking i can save an image slot

doodling

>>6890377
scope hello

>>6889988
did we come up with the same idea tf?

Would it be a bad idea to start reading more manga simply to take in the art and try to understand it better? Or is manga filled with things a beginner shouldn’t really try and mimic?

>>6890447
No i just wanted to try drawing that pose myself

>>6889855
>The performers are all transgender Black Jews who were born before the year 2000.
what did he mean by this

>>6890490
Reading manga will not teach you how to draw.

>>6890210
No
>>6890205
Thank you, but I come here for critique. I’m glad I’m headed in the right direction, though.

>>6890053
Some lighting directions are inconsistent
How about less tentacles, the scene is quite cluttered?
Following that, darken the background further so silhouettes pop, and have some of the tentacles fade in.

>>6890493
it came out looking better than mine lol. Doesn't look sucky at all imo.

>>6890147
Have you ever worked with a brush engine in your life? The pen pressure is what's causing the opacity jitter. It's always gonna do this shit because low pressure doesn't result in 100% opacity (like with watercolor washes).
If you don't want to work with black, set your color to gray and turn off opacity jitter. Idk what you expect the brush to do?

thoughts on the one on the right? i think that one turned out the best. i emphasised the back which is where the action is, i established relationships between the lines, i drew in the direction of growth, so even if it is anatomically incorrect it works.
i didnt do any of that in the middle one and left one. in the left one i did whatever, just copied from observation. the middle one i stacked forms on top of each other (i erased the overlapping lines).
and during those i remembered i should use the lessons learned previously in the book so i applied them for the right one.

>>6890549
the reference

Spent 30 minutes on another Bargue eye. It's a frustrating endeavour, and it didn't end up perfect, but it's not completely off either.

I felt like erasing some more after retracing with 4B, but I was unsure whether I could get a clean erase on the 4B lines and just left it like this.

>>6890527
well thank you
I can get the bigger picture better but I have trouble moving past the blob stage into details which you don't have an issue with

>>6890549
>>6890550
What is the point of this.

>>6890559
if you know you know

>>6889319
Okay, you've got the face drawn fine now, but I think your issues are with values. You've placed your shadows along Peter's face find, but then the shadows get darker on the far side of his head. Next you drawing, try going just lights and shadows. Keep it really simple. That's what my middle pic was aiming for. Simplicity is key here. Then after that you could add in a few more values, but always try to keep it simple.

>>6890567
Geez I must be tired. So many errors in that.
*along Peter's face FINE
**Next TIME you're drawing

>>6890559
the point is to learn you imbecile
stupidest question

Any critiques?

>>6890577
Og image from the world is not enough

Where do I go from here? I wanna be able to draw figures, people as quick sketches to get women mirin when I pen em in a pub in a quick sketch and to not be a total retard artlet as a fledgeling tattooer
I drew good as a kid but havent done it in like 15 years
Do I just stick to Marvel, copy Bridgeman afterwards and then add in color theory/animal anatomy/painting afterward? I wanna get really good at this and I draw all day after work for my free time
Gimme some advice please

Had lots of fun with this one

day 91
do you think I enjoy painting this shit?

>>6890583
VILPPU

it was not traced over original

>>6890559
>What is the point of this.
>I am retarded.
my condolences

>>6890577
the neck seems a little long, face is small or head is big, and the gun is a little wonky. I like the style and coloring though

I haven’t drawn so far this weekend and I don’t plan to.

>>6890553
Hi anon, I'm not trying to crab you. But if the Bargue eye takes 30 minutes, I suggest doing it again with a goal of finishing in 10 minutes.

>>6890585
Nice, he's one of the favorite mangakas.

>>6890583
Literally go download the Vilppu figure drawing courses. Draw along as you listen to the lectures, do the homework. I think you also need to do some slower, full-figure drawings to completion. Not all your figure practice should be quick sketch, but most of it can be.

>>6890714
Don't be a groupie

>>6890239
I like the outfit on the left

>>6890260
Find an object in your house. A vase, a box, a book, a bottle, etc. Put it in front of you. Observe it. Draw it.

>>6889172
TUMMY

The skull is wonky since no reference was used, not sure about the values. Considering getting the Alphonso Dunn book, is it good?

>>6890577
The lines on the upper lip and the nose seem unnecessary because the light is hitting there. I like the watercolor doe

>>6889855
>This shit is insanely hard. I legit have to use full power level combining practically all perspective tricks AND observation drawing and i still fuck up in grand beg style. The people who go and recommend this book to begs are sadists
I did these without huge troubles right after I learned how to rotate the boxes in fake perspective, must be you overthink it a lot. it's fine for begs

>>6889172
currently doing the krenz accuracy images, currently on 23, takes me 4 to 8min to complete one character, is there a better way to improve my observation?

Line control is so fucking hard on a graphic tablet ongod.
It is my first day doing the line control exercises though so it will probably get better with time.

>>6890762
A fellow Nihei enjoyer, very nice
Great painting, you're well above my level, 'mirin

>>6890882
NGMI i think.
Off to ghosting marks.

>>6890898
>>6890882

>>6890882
>zoom out
>flick your wrist
>perfect line
lmao trad not even once

>>6890926

>draw a line
>its a perfect line
lmao ngmitards

>>6890937
t. Fatherless behaviour.

done with the drawabox exercises. off to funny dino drawings .
My lack of line control depresses me greatly but i will blame it on the fact that i'm doing it digital. It will get better with time too, i bet.

>>6890939
t. Sexless behavior.

ah much better. the relationships, i see all.

>>6890953
that is a sexy leg damn

Tf everytime i draw less

Hatching is a nice method, but it's time-consuming if I were to do it properly. I must look for simpler ways.

>>6890982
What you're trying to do is beyond your current skill level
I recommend doing simple forms in perspective and a lot of contour drawings
then move on to still life and time figure drawings
see you in 6 months

does anyone know of any poseable 3d model resources that has the head ribcage and pevils as cubes?

Anyone have any exercises for improving figure drawing speed? I feel like I've plateaued just doing gestures.

which prompting style would you recommend to a beginner?

>>6890762
>>6890586
Thank you, I've downloaded the book.
Its better suited for what I want compared to Marvel, but I'll still stick to Bridgeman to attack the figure drawing from more angles. Cheers

>>6891110
1 and 2 min timed figure drawings
Do minimum 1000 of each

>>6891110
draw faster

Im gonna post something i drew months ago

>>6891213
uhhh I appreciate the effort that was put in

>>6891213
Should've stayed a sketch TB H

>>6891154
but...that's just gesture drawing

>>6890550
What book is this?

>>6890553
As the other anon said, I think you'd get more mileage from trying to get accuracy in less time (5-10 mins). Repeat the same process a couple of times and you'll get better results quicker.
You're not always gonna get a 1:1, but that's already a guarantee with sketching.

How many hobbies do you fellow /begs/ have?

I'm asking because I used to just draw only, for autistic obsession and also depression, but lately I realized you know what, I don't want to work in art for a living anyway so I might as well go to the gym, do some gaming etc. I wonder how much still you guys are interested in.

>>6891140
Download the video course if you'd like. It's a bit more detailed.
It is a little monotonous, but you can speed up the video. And you don't need to listen to every single second meticulously, just listen to what he says and pay attention to the "key" bits when he draws. You can even sketch while watching to make it settle in easier.

>>6891236
I got into drawing because of one of my other hobby, tabletop rpg. I got tired of describing things and people either not getting what I was talking about or defaulting to cultural reference.

There's also a criminal lack of art depicting cute girl with a chest armor and a puffy dress. So once I get decent enough at drawing human bodies I'll solve my problem.

Extremely terrible birb drawing.
I'll try to draw a better one this week.
At least i did draw it instead of complaining about not being able to draw a good one and never actually touching the pen.

if I actually finish a drawing with lineart instead of just sketches does that count as leaving my comfort zone

>>6891269
If you're not comfortable with what you're doing you're leaving your comfort zone

Posting my crappy pears from Proko basics to keep my self accountable like an anon suggested. Right is my first try and left is after watching his demonstration and explanation.

I want my furries to be hot

>>6889172
Finally done!
Thanks for the help, guys

If no one can find a problem, I will upload it to pixiv now

>>6891348
>Finally done!
Where's your background bro?

>>6891356
I'll study that next year.

>>6891357
I said something similar... 4 years ago.

>>6891360
I am barely in my 2nd year. I hope to learn proper color and basic BGs next year

>>6891348
It looks bad honestly. Jarring colors, nothing about it is pleasing or aesthetic. Anime-tier shit/10, NGMI.

The longer I look at it the worse the anatomy seems to get.

>>6891366
Crab

>>6891367
No, it just legitimately looks bad.

>>6891373
pyw

>>6891348
start by drawing a ground plane next time

Beeeeg. Loooooooooooooooom

>>6891357
just trace some photo and you get perfect background every time. All you need to know is that eye level = horizon and put it so it reflects the angle you drew the scene. In your pic the horizon is at booba level of pink hair thot
>>6891348
it is a little stiff but nothing tragic. some hands are also weird and dont fit the anime style of the bodies. coomers will be pleased with this
>>6890982
in digital you can use crosshatching brushes which can make it really fast
>>6890950
>>6890882
put stack of paper on top of your tablet
>>6890856
you improve it every time you draw from reference. no need to for autistic exercises. just draw
>>6890834
>I did these without huge troubles
maybe you have TALENT and i am just talentless permabeg then :-O
>>6890583
vilppu, bridgman, tomfox, loomis, hampton, hogarth, eviston... or one of the other thousands of courses or books about figure drawing. pick your poison
>>6890577
when drawing clothes i heavily recommend to invent your own folds and or abuse the cloth patterns (cross contours)to make form more obvious. The way how you drew it it is very flat
>inb4 reference
it is your drawer job to ensure clarity above reality
>>6890553
at this speed you will be copying bargue plates even next year. instead of erasing use light lines. erasing should be your last resort for when you SUPER fuck up only
>>6890260
less thinking, more drawing
>>6890239
cute thot
>>6890134
keys to drawing
>>6890053
i kneel. my only nitpick is that background has same color as the foreground characters and a lot of places completely miss shades but that is probably because you got lazy, not because you dont know how to shade. I kneel
>>6890041
very coomable
>>6889991
good job

the fuck is that throw up of autism

>>6889172
Need feedback on values and overall piece as well. I want to be a professional one day, so go on and destroy me if you need. Thanks in advance.

What are some ways to maintain discipline? I'm like beg-mid at best and I always struggle to keep going.

>>6890518
That’s not even remotely what they asked you fuckin retard

>>6891421
Remember that death and disaster is constantly lurking around every corner. Just moments from now into the future something horrible might happen to you, this could be your last chance to draw, better not waste it.

>>6891420
you overdid the glows it's hard to read the shape of his arms and pose
instead of only pumping up the glow regions to white you can try darkening parts that aren't hit by the glow, like the books that are being held over it, as if the glow is inducing a shadow.
t. lighting /beg/

>>6891431
Anon, I'm already very neurotic. That doesn't help, it just hampers me down.

daily dose

>>6891236
I like papercraft and building models, especially WW2 tanks/warships and russian gunships
>>6890583
will weston figure drawing class and vilppu

>>6891415
>Eternal beg giving advice.
Will you ever stop?
Give up.

thinking about fixing the feet later on though for the most part I think I'm done with this semi quick sketch

>>6891444
Remember that everything is fine. Relax a little and take the time to enjoy yourself. Look back at how far you have already come on your journey, imagine how much farther you can go, but only if you keep pushing yourself forward. You can make it Anon, so dig in your heels and have at it.

>>6891348
The shading looks rushed desu

>>6891421
Think of your end goal for drawing. What is it? Do you want to draw a specific thing, draw like a specific person, enter a specific profession, etc? It may help to define some goals outside of art too, think of 5 things you dream to accomplish.

>>6891348
Bad. It seemingly appears "decent" at the very first look. But holy shit it is headache-inducing.

Honestly throw your tools away and never draw again, get another hobby.

>>6891415
Turn off the pressure-opacity on your brush. It looks bad the way you use it.

>>6891448
pyw

>>6891297
Been trying again before moving onto the next video and I wanted to asked you peeps if this seems too simplified/cartoony? Proko wanted people to draw with only straight lines and only using 5 values.

>>6891499
nta but he's right
pawells replies barely count as criticism or advice and he's not qualified to speak about others' work, just look at his

>>6891516
if not for pawell, many posts would be left without any replies. Let the king of beg be

i'd rather people get no replies than read some mass reply dunning kruger shit from someone that can't even draw loomis heads after a year

>>6891521
fuck off pawell.

How do I improve my symmetry when doing front views

>>6889456
How many hours did you do that for each day

intern-chan

is there some trick to head construction, or is it basically just "do it a ton of times on a bunch of heads at a bunch of different angles until you learn how to manipulate it on your own"?
I'm trying to understand it so I can add it to my toolset and use it in the future for creating stuff myself, but it feels deceptively difficult, way more than I thought it would be.

>>6891297
>>6891504
Do like 5 more.

>>6891421
Research habit building and focus. Do it every day. You can start with even just 10-15 minutes of drawing per day. Celebrate when you do the thing. Start small and build up. Consider toning down video games, youtube, social media. Go on a walk.

And like the other anon said, yes you will die. When you're 100 years old, will you have regretted not playing some game or watching some anime, or will you regret more that you didn't pursue the things that you wanted to pursue?

>>6889938
here, I gave it a try, I would say the torso needs to be more sideways but the rest of this thread can correct me

>>6891544
Are you drawing forms underneath, or did you do this freehand? If you are doing the latter, you are going to take way longer learning than if you just use construction. But yes you just have to do it a ton of times

>>6891550
I did the construction stuff with the brow line and vertical line and side panes, is that what you mean? that's what I'm trying to learn, but the concept itself seems hard since there's no set formula, every head construction looks different in terms of angle and size and stuff

am I just overcomplicating it? one of my biggest issues is getting the sizes right, particularly the very first circle

>>6891521
my point is his replies aren't worth much.

>>6891567
nta but this is a fucking stupid take anon. who fucking cares, at least he's encouraging. begs need to keep going more than anything else

>>6891544
You're doing fine anon. It does basically come down to doing it a bunch of times. The more you draw, the better your eyes become, and the more accurately you can capture what you see, and the shapes eventually amalgamate into their own language

>>6889826
Drew some ted lines over it, also included some faded sketchy parts to imply form underneath/behind, hope this helps

Extra thicc

>>6891236
Politics, which I should abandon since WWIII is about to start

>>6890239
Nice stuff, cute designs

>>6891542
Not sure if I did this correctly for the legs to be honest but I drew over the hands and made the top of her hair/head a bit bigger, cute design btw

I think about drawing everyday, but then I realize most art looks the same, and it's impossible to create something new. Most if not all of my ideas have been realized by far better artists than myself. I just don't see a point in trying anymore. I don't want to be a part of the rat race. Why do I feel so bad?

>>6890041
messy update

>>6891614
Well you got the ugly part right. Did you plan on ever not making shit.

>>6891619
You're thinking of it wrong silly. The purpose of art isn't to show how original you are, itis to have fun and enjoy the spirit of creation.

>>6891623
What if you don't enjoy that process because everything you make is garbage?

>>6891583
I think when you're making characters that are super tall it generally looks better if the legs/feet are a bit larger as well

>>6891627
Learn to enjoy it? Just know you're still learning and know every line and stroke is a step to getting better.

Trying to make a cool pose, what do you think?

another ktd portrait [this time with a glaring proportion oversight] and some 25min still life shit to start working on getting the large shapes down faster. this is all starting to become fun, which is nice

>>6891627
make more shit and it'll eventually stop
>>6891420
for my part i like the overexposed glow but they should interact more with the surrounding forms. he's shielding his face with the glowing upper arm but it's still the same value as his shin in plain daylight. also consider composition and where you want the focus to be, am i meant to be looking at the face or the sword or the arms? use your light to guide the eye
>>6891415
you're getting through this whole thing fast all things considered, maybe at the end go back and try to construct some more of the blooks from imagination to see what's changed?
>>6891258
some drawing always better than none, keep your values in mind and use the texture of the feathers as your shading, avoid that messy "all over" look. look forward to your next
>>6890882
how large is your tablet? gotta have at least the medium 30cm tablets for them to be usable imo
>>6890834
>>6891339
>>6890762
>>6890586
nice

>>6889846
Maybe put the mouth and nose up higher to sell the feeling of looking up >picrelated

>>6891634
I think her feet are broken/onbackwards

>>6891628
interesting observations, thanks anon.

>>6889797
it's ok, feels hard to judge, like it's a sketch, also it doesn't pop out against the background. I would add a highlight color or something to make the form/shape more readable when you blur your eyes

>>6891373
that's not very constructive criticism

>>6891619
you can just quit if you want. You can spend your time on other things that are more important to you, or you can waste your life doing nothing, it really doesn't matter. any reason to quit is valid. you don't have to justify why you quit. But you don't have to downplay art like there's no value in it. You can aknowledge that something does interest you and still choose to walk away from it. I think your dissonance might stem from the fact that you try to tell yourself you never liked art. It's fine to like art and still choose to not actively participate.

>>6891627
why are you letting your skill level stop you from having fun? anyone at any level can express themselves through art.

>>6891634
unfortunately the knee reads as an ass cheek, especially with the way her upper body is turning. Other than that it's good.

>>6891635
So you jumped from Proko, to Vilppu, to KtD, in a month? This type of flitting around is ngmi stuff. You should stick to one source and milk it for 3 months minimum

>>6891649
Why is this pervy......

>>6891655
But this gets a pass in online art communities

>>6891635
What exactly is going on here in picrel? Is this like one large sheet of paper that you just add your practices onto and annotate your thoughts? I’m genuinely wondering, I like it but I just don’t know what it is

>>6891649
Because many years ago I really wanted to git gud, but the spark never came, and I realized I could never amount to my aspirations.
I'm reminded of this every time I even think about drawing.
I have essentially quit, but there's a ghost lingering over me who reminds me of my failures.
Now I am kind of wasting my life doing nothing.

>>6891635
When you can describe the form with values, it's better to keep the lines at the minimum or else it will look weird

>>6891655
>>6891656
The reason is the proportions and expression, one is clearly meant to be more pervy than the other, even the pose is lifting to reveal more, don't be the artist equivalent of autistic

>>6891656
>>6891655
it's the rendering technique and stylistic choices, nothing to do with "proportions" as both are coomer-brained
soft blended values are more coomable than crosshatching
soft warm colors are more coomable than harsh black and white

>>6891660
It seems like you are at a crossroad, either get back into it or cut your losses and free up that mental space that drawing used to occupy. Maybe you will feel more freedom from eliminating the baggage from your past life, one less thing that you have to worry about. if you still want to draw but fear failure I would suggest drawing with simple tools in a low risk environment like a cheap sketchbook where you are not so worried about the outcome of each page until you start building up your drawing muscle again.

>>6891634
It looks like she has a really big leg and small everything else

>>6891348
next time if you doing a group pic remember it's much hotter if everyone has distinct body shapes.
Haven't watched bocchi yet but as a secondary I know that the MC's biggest attraction is that she has huge tits, having everyone in your picture having roughly the same bust size doesn't highlight that at all.

>>6890762
Damn, this is a picture of my drawing, which was once corrected for me in the draw thread.
Now I saw it and damn, it looks really good, when my original drawing looks ridiculous and ugly in comparison... I hate myself...

>>6889172
anyone have brushes for Krita that make it kinda look like watercolor?(where the edges have kind of more color than the rest of the area you draw on?)

Also I want advice on drawing things under the water and legs in general.

>>6891733
watercolor brushes are in krita by default, you might need to update if you are on a very old version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drYOrnG0Ui0

>>6891738
oh seems like i fucked up my bundles.
that's why i could not find them.

>>6891733
>rkgk
You will never be Japanese, you fucking loser

>>6891744
you will never be a basedjak

>>6891754

>>6891744
kek, this
fucking weebs, man

>>6891748
kek, this
fucking sharties, man

>>6891617
Thank you anon.

>>6891420
Needs more contrast.
Aslo please resize images before posting here,

>>6891634
Like the other anon said the knee is hard to grasp, looks like the feet are turned around.
Also the spine wouldn't turn like that.
Nice pose and good effort.
I like the dynamics

>>6891677
I feel like if both were reduced to line art, the thinner chick would still get a pass. You don't think so?

>>6891872
Forgot the image.

>>6891754
>>6891757
Blurry
Nice expressive stroke, proportions need a bit of works but good stuff
You can sense the joy of drawing,
GMI

the blind leading the blind

>>6891873
It does seem like constant coom in manga and comics get ignored if the females are 90s Hot.

If you draw Taylor Swift nude, it's art. If you draw an Instagram thot in the exact same way, it’s coom.

relationships, direction of growth
next one will be the first difficulty and put my new power to the test
but even that, i will overcome
COME AT ME!

>>6891653
did proko for a one (1) day before someone told me i was wasting my time and to use vilppu instead, haha. otherwise it's been a case of getting humbled by my skill in practice - hard to study figure if i can't even get the basic proportions right. i'm considering these prerequisites that i didn't know about ahead of time, i'm not just getting bored or flaking because i'm "not making progress". KtD -> marvel up to the proportion diagrams -> vilppu figure is now a set-in-stone plan, so there won't be any deviations from here.
>>6891657
yup, i start with a 2048x2048 square and the whole day's studies get drawn on it on a layer each before getting hidden. after finishing a batch of related work i expand the canvas, lay them all out, and feedback on all of them at once. helps give a better overview of my skill. obviously laying the work out like that means the canvas keeps getting weirdly tall but it's more useful for me and i'm too lazy to make it "nice" to upload here when i could be spending that time actually drawing instead
>>6891666
was gonna ask which area in particular but now that i look there's hard borders everywhere. will focus on it today, thanks

relationships YES. tell me, you see them too dont you?
i see all

Tried doing some 30sec gestures and got humbled. Are they supposed to look like shit and are they only used to improve drawing speed or is there something else?

>>6891902
>2048x2048 square
>then i expand the canvas
anon… that’s fucking huge

on the left, my first attempt. a failure. but do i falter?
HA for you to even suggest it.
then, a new attempt. more relationships MORE.
everything falls into place just so. i see it now. truthfully i see it.
the page is at an end. there is no need for more.
incomplete but complete.
lessons learned.

the reference btw
what a book
i have attained such power that i even tremble at the realisation of it.

>>6891924
bro just compile your shit into one image and post after you're done for the day

>>6891874
>>6891635
>>6891649
My intention was to make a character fly preparing an energy attack towards the viewer, I tried to put the body in foreshortened and in perspective that's why his knee is giant, then I remembered that this character cannot fly so I placed him on the ground , I guess I screwed it up from the beginning.
The butt is real, now I can't stop looking at it haha.

i can draw! i can make it!

>>6891348
>dyke porn
please don't ever make it out of /beg/

>>6890982
crooked, but I luv it

>>6891920
is it bad? i knew 2048 was overkill but everything seems to work out fine, my file sizes are still managable and my brushes seem alright

>>6891613
neither character has weight, its like their gingerly tapping swords

>>6891967
>>6891967

new one
>>6891967
>>6891967

>>6889280
Just copy it twice, don't think about it too much.

>>6889425
You can't do that right off the bat. Why do you think all professional artists have completed at least the 250 box challenge on drawabox?

>>6891643
ty, ill try

>>6891549
yeah that looks good, im glad to see i was at least close to the mark
thanks