/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

soon, ai will be able to drink your water for you. too.

i gave my friend some brown and grey toned sketchbooks that are great for portraits, which is what he likes to draw. i added some white and black watercolour pencils. im not a trad artist but i hope its a good birthday gift! 50 euro for the whole set. its also sold out now and i kinda wanted the brown paper, too...

Got a drawing tablet as a gift. Took me an hour to get it set up in CSP. Whoever said tablets made things easier is a faggot.

Bit hard drawing black OCs that look original huh?

>>6877553
skill issue

>big artist draws your donut steel better than you

>>6877553
Just have all white features, and make their skin dark. Easy.

Or even easier, don't make them at all

>>6877729
So low facial masculinity, an underdeveloped lower third, childlike mandible length and chin volume with tiny wrists with a dash of reddish hue in the pale skin indicating low testosterone? Or are you implying hunter gathering eyes with a 90 degree jawline where the eyes are sunken deep into the socket?

>>6877553
My issue is that there's only a handful of hair colors that that look good with them

>>6877748
You may want your ladies to have high facial masculinity, huge chins, large wrists, and high testosterone, but not everyone is into troons

>>6877750

White/silver and light blue hair looks best with dark skin. Maybe in the distant future when humanity can edit genes, Africans can change their genetics to have natural, shiny straight silver hair.

>>6877824
>light blue hair looks best with dark skin
I was thinking of using dark blue hair on a dark skin design, not light blue though. Got a good example?

Hate my art a lot, but I keep drawing in the never ending hope that the next drawing will be better than the last. But I still feel disappointed by it. Trying to balance realistic proportions and artistic style, and my style sucks. Want to put my story into words and pictures, but I feel like everything I make is stupid and subpar. Don't know how to design more characters, don't know how to design clothes. Still trying to do backgrounds. But I feel like even if I improve the technical work I don't think I can make something Nice. But maybe this is just my lack of skill overwhelming the work itself and if I keep grinding I'll like my art.
But I miss when I liked my really, really shitty art, because at least I Wanted to keep drawing and I felt proud of what I did. Feels like my art is just disappointing, never get it as I want, but maybe I'm not imaginative enough to make something that isn't disappointing.
Don't have any art friends to talk about this with, very pointless complaining and I should just keep drawing but it's hard when everything I make feels either very wrong or empty.

I think I figured out how some people are getting a ton of likes on X without tagging on fresh accounts. It had nothing to do with big accounts retweeting or having a friend or 2 to boost you and it's not even about "good art" while that does play a factor. It also has nothing to do with fans knowing you from someplace else after getting nuked. And I figured this out after observing someone else for quite a bit.

Well, I would post what it is, I want to try this out myself before saying "this is it 100%" but I'm confident this was the "trick" being used by several artists I've observed.

Been a while since the last /wct/.
Right now I'm struggling with legs over a desk in different perspectives.
I think its time to use references but I struggle using them cause I feel like Im copying. Anyone else has this problem?

>>6877870
you dont go from beg to pro in 20 seconds anon. Its normal that you dont like your stuff for now.
It seems like you are trying a lot of stuff at the same time but you have to focus on something and later do the rest.

>>6877867
Some off the top of my head. I'm sure I can think of a lot more with time.

>>6877883
Because it feels like everything is the same. As an example, if I tell myself I want to focus on color, that turns into focusing on light, how light hits an object, and then I realize i'm drawing the object wrong anyway, or the drawing isn't impactful, or the subject matter is bland. I just kind of jump around and take little bites of new knowledge and I don't know what to do with them.
I feel that my art is improving overall, and I am glad that I can look back and say my old art is still far worse than my current art, but doing studies doesn't help me feel satisfied with my art as a whole, what I do with it.
Then I convince myself I'll make my comic but I know I am not ready, I have no substance, I need to improve with backgrounds, need interesting angles, need solid colors, need characters.
And it is so intensely discouraging when one night I can't draw anything worth shit and another night I feel that my art is more accurately representing my thoughts.

>>6877893
Why dont you do pieces that focus on certain aspects then?
Like doing a drawing that doesn't use colors but it does use shadows in black and white.
Or another one thats simple but you play with the colors.
That way you can learn while doing something instead of just studying

>>6877890
here's a dark blue (same show on the upper right, though)

>>6877897
Or just drawing backgrounds too.
The point is to try to focus and improve little by little.

>>6877901
>>6877897
Yeah I've been trying, need to do it more.

>>6877748
>make their skin dark
>you mean a dash of reddish hue in pale skin?
are you fucking retarded?

>>6877921
You must be ESL. That was referring to "white features" exclusively if you read the entire comment before breathing profusely as you rage reply.

>>6877923
Yes, it is me who is rage replying. Let's go with that

>>6877927
Glad we come to an understanding.

>>6877764
>>6877890
>>6877899
If we are posting examples of dark skin anime style characters here's one by lack. You are right, they do be looking good in blue and silver .

I've taken a break from social media and it's done wonders for my art and mental health not having to draw something just to feed the algorithm. I noticed that in the time I was worried about pleasing online strangers, many who I considered similar to my skill level are now much better than me. It feels like I just resumed my improvement journey, and the past while had put it on hold without me realizing. The first few days I caught myself browsing, but I never once picked up my pen to draw for social media, and that felt amazing. I never realized how much anxiety I had built up from posting every day, even though it was mostly low effort. It is very liberating, and I encourage everyone out there to try the same for at least a week.

>>6877960
>Experiencing anxiety from fictitious numbers and make believe strangers from a screen.
You are exactly the type of person I would absolutely hate to become, if there's one thing I fear it's your type of faggotry.

>>6877927
>>6877928
if this were a real watercooler in a real office ya'll would get HR'd. Back to drawing you've had too much break

>>6877881
What helps get rid of this feeling is using multiple references so that you aren't just copying. If you really are wanting to practice different perspectives then you would be using multiple references anyway. Usually what gets people into the trap of making something that looks like a copy in the end is only using one or two references. You should be able to combine multiple references into the interpretation that fits your piece. In a greater scheme, your art is your interpretation of what you see, so unless you're tracing or doing the exact same pose or something, you should be fine in terms of originality.

>>6877942
Anime should keep the black features. They are just taking whites and giving them a tan

I'm hitting a wall trying to draw something but nothing is coming out of it. How do you guys decouple when things aren't going your way, whether it's art or anything else?

>>6877519
tan the paper yourself use coffee or brown watercolor

AYO I BOUGHT A PROPER CHAIR AND I'M SITTING AT PROPER TABLE
WOOOOOOOOOOOOO FULL ARM MOVEMENT

>>6877942
Yeah, like that. White hair should pretty much be a default in fantasy.

>>6877942
Yeah, like that. Silver/blue hair should pretty much be a default in fantasy.

>>6877960
You sound like someone I know. No, we were never the same skill level, you were just delusional.

>>6878043

Aim your dart higher next time, you might hit the board, albeit not center.

ate a bunch of candy, apparently dextrose and sodium citrate make you shit like crazy, heres hopin Xm

>>6877992
give up and come back later desu

>>6877876
interesting
you gonna post in this thread then?

I feel like I'm going crazy, I know nobody's path to improvement is the same but I cannot find a direction. I started a course that is just making daily paintings following a concept such as value or color. It goes mostly well but I reached a point where the instructed exercise feels pointless. This happens with every type of instructional content I try to follow and stick to- I inevitably go, "this is a load of shit busywork meant to pad it out" and drop it. So I try to improve by making finished pieces instead, but I have to use references, and I have to fumble around with an aspect that challenges me, and it causes me to turn to content to try and learn again, only to come to the same conclusion as before. There's so many different avenues and stimuli and it's overwhelming, and nothing feels like my own creation, just a study of someone else's work or photo. Its like everyone is selling me snake oil, "try so and so method, draw 200 toads sitting on rocks!" and I'm the dumb person expecting it to change my life every time before getting demoralized. I'm so many layers deep and my entire creation process is influenced by bits and pieces of countless videos and books and it makes it paralyzing. I reinvent the wheel each time I sit down to draw and I feel retarded

>>6878097
make a piece without any reference using all of what you currently know and see what comes out, under no circumstance look at any reference even if it looks like kindergarten mickey mouse shit and push your brain for at least 6 hours, then point out the biggest problem you had, reference+study and then try to apply it to the previous piece
there's no established method in creating art which is why its so hard and a teacher can only you take so far anyways

>be visual artist
>have the most refined taste and vast eclectic knowledge of unique artists, styles, methods, eras of art history, anime, movies, etc.
>be given a literally magic wishing tree (ai) that can effortlessly mix and combine artstyles into the most technically precise aesthetically pleasing random combination of bullshit
>"it's using e-celebs art this is theft"
Please prompt. You guys are the only ones who could prompt things that actually look good. Everyone else is making comfort characters and funny jokes. I lied about you NGMI you have the spark.

>>6878108
yeah you're right, it's humbling when I know it will knock me down a peg so I avoid it but I'll force myself to, thanks.

>>6877972
Thanks anon. I usually just used one for each pose (reference). I don't trace so I'm fine, and I'm going to start using more references.

>>6877519
I have this exact sketchbook and am pretty happy with it, sounds like a great gift with the pencils

>>6877519
thats some good ass paper, perfect for when you want to use white pencils

I've done nothing but commissions ever since I've moved out on my own, I'm financially stable off that and don't have to work for a minute. I've spent the last 6 months on a single client's project and after it was all set and done I feel completely exhausted. I sat down to sort out my catalog for reposting and found out that the last 2 years was nothing but commission work and very little personal output, I was stead fast on being able to meet the needs of others I forgot what to do with my free time if not drawing for money, its disgraceful I admit... broke down pretty bad when trying to draw without reference and my mind can't even muster a face properly, my imagination is shot to bits and my wrist so wound up I'm afraid it might snap!

>>6878588
Damn bro. Take a walk, call a friend, go get a drink or something. It's friday and you don't have to work on anything, so clear your head

>went to an art meet offline
>meet cool people with all sorts of cool and awesome drawings
>they want to look at my sketchbook
>goes silent when they rifle through it

>>6878133
I never will quit drawing, AI groomer

>>6878097
The GMI artist draws those 200 toads and sees real gains at the end of the journey. Stop overthinking and stick to one thing for a while.

>>6878614
Kek.

>>6878683
ic is the type to post about drawing 200 toads but never actually do it

>>6878097
I made this for you in good faith, anon. Learning to draw isn't that complicated

>somebody finds your gallery
>comments wow this is great work etc etc
>repost bombs your back catalog of art
>no follow
This behavior baffles me.

>>6878914
I used to get that all the time on DA back when I used it.

>>6878921
I can take somebody not following, but given that 90% of followers never meaningfully interact beyond the follow, it's weird when somebody goes through the trouble of commenting and reposting a bunch of your shit, but for some reason doesn't give you the token follow.

>>6878693
there was a draw 100 trend a number of years ago which I participated in. would that fly on ic these days?

>>6878614
What do you draw?

I joined sanctioned-suicide a while ago and am planning to end my life. I have a fairly long and pretentious suicide note written out and have even driven out to my selected spot a little ways out of town "ready to go through with it." I reached my destination and just cried and screamed in the car like some retard having a hilariously cringe autistic meltdown alone in the middle of nowhere. I'm not brave enough yet and I have these lingering religious beliefs but I'm hoping I'll work up the nerve eventually. I think the key is to make it impulsive, just when I'm at my worst and when I can't see any hope for the future. My self-preservation instincts are at their worst when I'm tired, over worked, and ultra critical of my shitty art and stupid choices so that's probably the best time. I'm an irredeemable piece of shit that the world left behind a long time ago, I'm the very definition of 'failure to thrive' so nothing of value will be lost with my absence.

It's nothing but regret all the way back to the moment I became conscious of this stupid body and mind. I can't see a purpose to any of this. even the artists I used to look up to I see for what they are: the casteless and unwanted degenerates ancient cultures would've just thrown to the wolves, the weak men and retards and shiteaters and faggots with untreatable mental disorders enabled by the well intentioned idiots of the modern world. All we do is wallow pathetically in our own self importance at the margins of society, justifying our little compulsive scribblings and time wasting nonsense as some sacred spiritual MANIFESTATION OF GOD, or some service to "beauty" when it's all just more make believe bullshit in service of nothing. Self-obsessed navel gazers, insufferable autists, pure fucking garbage born destined for the fire. Artists have contributed nothing to the world.

Fuck this planet. Fuck this board. Fuck this species. Fuck art. Fuck consciousness fuck beauty, fuck weed and hentai, and fuck you.

>>6878981
I love you anon. I think you have lots of value.

>>6878923
It's possible they were gonna follow you but on the last second saw one post that they hated so much they ultimately decided not to follow

>>6878981
>wanting to be a mediocre, dumbfuck normie sheep
cringe

I don't know how art niggas do it. How the fuck do you guys draw all day long? Like I am a literal neet right now, have nothing to do and rarely leave my room, have ample supply of good paper, good pens, good inks, drawing tablet, clip studio paint license, etc. and I just have less than no motivation to sit down and actually illustrate even though a part of me genuinely wants to. Like, I start something and then never proceed to finish it. Where do I find the autism required to just shut the fuck up, sit down, and draw all day long until I like it and cannot imagine life without doing it?

>>6878981
You know it's okay to be selfish and work towards your own deep personal ambitions, right? That is how literally everyone who makes it to the top gets there. Entertainment isn't a necessity in the face of the absolute barebones of life, but it sure as hell does not hurt others in adding another value to make life worth living. But you do you - like I said above, I have my own problems.

>>6878981
I'd stick around for a couple more years to see whats going to happen. society is about to go through massive change, who knows, it might be for the better in your situation. time flies man, change will be here before you know it.

>want to kill myself
>have to announce it to the whole world instead of just doing it
That's how you know they won't do it but just want pity and attention.

lil man just turned 19 and had his first existential experience huh

>israel finally getting what it deserves
>ai getting lobotomized making it essentially useless to prompt
>libshits getting killed by niggers
>racism becoming more mainstream thanks to the looting incidents

it’s been an amazing week. closed the sale on my first home today as well. coincidentally my art and writing has been making some strong strides. i hope everyone has a wonderful day. :)

Something triggered my memory of why I wanted to keep drawing in the first place.

My old high school crush from more than a decade ago.

So I have to keep drawing.

>>6879006
you need to build a habit of drawing and making art everyday first
I recommend putting all those supplies aside and start with just a pencil and a sketchbook, whatever you do, just sit down and making art at least 1hour/day (emphasize on the word "making art", not "doing exercises or copying from artbooks and call it a day")
after one or two weeks of keeping that habit you can slowly introducing more tools to your artmaking process, but for now keep it as simple as possible

>>6879170
>looting incidents
...
Wasn't it always the case?

>>6879193
it wasn’t always the case, but lately youtube comments look a lot like they’re from /pol/ than from reddit these days and it’s a good thing.

>>6879172
>My old high school crush from more than a decade ago.
Let her out of your mind and move on. You're being spiritually attacked by witches stealing the energy that you could be putting into drawing.

>>6878592
I went outside and had a mixed bag but im infinitely glad I did so. think im gonna keep this up for a week see how it goes

thanks anon, stay hydrated

>>6879196
Where do I go to that look like neither reddit or /pol/? I'm so fucking tired of this imaginary battle between two groups of retards. Like just go watch sports or something if you want an to rage at your imaginary enemy that bad

>>6878952
Nothing outlandish, I draw people but I'm a beg while most people there are in the industry

>>6878981
Go out with a bang at least. If you cant make good art while you're alive, make it with your death.

Also, this is like the opposite of watercooler talk

>>6879470
Sports is perfect to dull your brain. Have a beer and watch the game. You should watch more sports

>Drawing coom
>Get the urge to masturbate
>Lose all motivation to draw after orgasming, even feel a little ashamed

>>6879680
You're at your horniest when you are in the sketch/concept phase but by the time you finish the line art you're sick of seeing it and when it's finally done after coloring you're just glad it's over.

>>6879680
>>6879706
Also, post the drawing I want to see what it was that made you spill your seed.

>>6879706
Just finish the piece and use it later

my drawing sessions are getting shorter and shoter and my breaks are getting longer and longer. I can only draw for one "sitting" per day now.

>>6879005

That cheered me up, actually. Thanks, asshole, I love /ic/

>post shit on tl
>immediately delete it after one second because it looks like shit
just me?
ok

>>6878981
Stop being a cringeworthy nihilist pathetic faggot and start changing things in your life instead of taking the easy way out because you cant be fucked to have any responsibility for yourself
God i fucking HATE suicidal people. Unless youre getting tortured by the chinese fucking government there is literally ZERO reason to do it

>>6879680
This is my biggest issue. But it's also a savior, since I dont want to post nsfw

I decided to delete art I downloaded I no longer like and we lad

>>6880746
i like to keep it to see how my tastes evolved, its interesting to see how my tastes change over time

Is it true that you can’t be an artist if you’re conservative my sister says only progressive people have creative minds.

yeah

>>6880926
you won't make anything creative that's for sure. conservatives only draw cowboy and communists from what i've seen

>>6880926
conservative as low in openness trait

>>6880924
Yea, I get it, now I'm more interested in my art folders being inspiring rather than a story of my interests though

>>6880926
Yeah, you see all the great artists throughout history have been progressive. They think you can chop of your dick and be woman, give kids hormone blockers, and fuck all the animals you want. That's how you know you're a true artist.
Ironically that's what most of my comms are

Please include Israel in your thoughts and prayers. I have a lot of family there.

>>6881115

>>6881166

>tfw you start feeling like an absolute buffoon thinking you could have a little fun and maybe pretend to be an artist for a little bit

>>6881329
Stop being such a pussy and draw instead of being here complaining like a faggot

>>6881337
I did draw, to the current news and now I feel like a filthy pandering whore.

>>6881340
lets see it then you pandering whore

>>6881343
kek, no this one time I ain't doing it I came here to vent and now that I got it out of my system I'm letting bygones be bygones.

>>6881345
don't lie you never pyw

>>6881348
You asked for it.
>>>/pol/443896297

>>6878981
have you had coffee recently, would you give it a try?
>>6879492
You don't casually tell your coworkers your suicide plan at the water cooler? Fucking normie.

>>6881353
You should make art that isn't a waste of time instead. Also you fucked up the borders somehow. Ty for pyw

>>6880665

Annoying people is a good enough reason to be suicidal. Thanks for responding, you've temporarily soothed my narcissistic injury and I feel better knowing I wasted some of your time. That's all I wanted. I felt seen and loved.

>>6881353
There are some visual hentai novels that have similar art anon. Take that however you want.

>>6879680
I draw perverted old hags in OL attire and I just power through the boner, these hags must be created and I won't trip on a nut, as fat as it is.

>>6877377
>>6877504
>soon, ai will be able to drink your water for you. too.
Creepy. Anyhow; any opinions on kick starter for comics/graphic novels? I wanna try my hand at that but it feels like that's for when you want to print a huge amount of copies and reach hundreds of people and that's a little overwhelming for a no-name like myself. Still, I wanna read your opinion on crowdfunding for comics and the like anons. Pic-semi-related since we are talking comics/cartoons AI and water...

>>6881115
>israel being attacked
>daily goyslop shilling threads suddenly stopped
hmm...

>get ipad a year ago for sketching on the go
>get procreate after hearing so much praise for it
>fucking hate it, draw like one thing a month if at all and it’s always shit
>decide to try csp trial because fuck it
>been drawing on it for hours every day since

I would like to wish the procreate shills a very merry fuck you.

>>6881406
You mean the AI threads?
Now that I think of it, no twitter threads on /v/ either. Stealth drawthread is still up as well.
Could be a coincidence.
What's more puzzling is how one of most militaristic countries got surprised like this, it had to be deliberately allowed to happen to get an excuse to bulldoze Gaza or something.

I know nobody is really going to believe me but I want to say it to get it..off my mind(?) before I get to drawing. To put it shortly, I woke up at around 3AM last night and felt a spirit of some sort float down behind me and hugged me. It felt warm and familiar, but I don't have anyone close that died or know anyone that cares about me IRL. I've had sleep paralysis in the past but this was completely different.

>>6881967
it was me

Is it better to delete a social media account or just let it rot? I'm done with Twitter, but not sure if I want to delete it or let it sit because I posted a lot of art there over the years

>>6882043
Don't delete it if:
1. the user name is good. If it is there is 100% some faggot out there who wants the name.
2. you have a strong password and auth so it won't get hacked
3. by deleting it you are giving valuable information that you moved on to data brokers. Leaving it up to let it rot = not giving them any new info
4. keep it as a test account

Delete it if:

You want to purge traces of yourself. Again, this is a meme and it's better to just let an account be a zombie.

Question - I’ve been using this pentallic watercolor journal for gouache painting, 100% cotton, size 11 x 8.5 inches, but it’s not available anywhere online currently. Does anyone know a good alternative? I’ve been looking at Arches but I don’t think they make sketchbooks of their paper, just those weird blocks you rip off one at a time.

>>6881998
thanks anon

I've been devising a specific style since august and the closer it gets to perfection (in relation to what I have in mind) the further it starts to nauseate me every time I'm drawing

>>6882089
take a break anon

>>6882076
Great advice, much appreciated anon

It's so hard

I forgot what it was to be a drawfag outside drawfag circles. This place really makes you think nobody would like your stuff unless you are a /pro/, when you post your stuff in other boards and more often than not you see people appreciating it... but then you guys would find any kind of excuse to undermine the fact people like your trash, whether these people have no taste, or they dont draw, or they are dimwits... there's always a reason as to why people liking your work is wrong.

Im starting to see why this place is known to be a crab bucket, a lot of people here talk in such an ill-spirited manner and pick up petty fights for the pettiest of reasons: You are liked among people? you're a dick sucking sellout and you shall be put down. You enjoy drawing for the sake of it? You're NGMI and should see art the way other in the board do. Are you happy with your works, you are a conformist delusional that should draw what I tell you to draw. Do you draw at all? You are obsolete because AI something something.

/ic/, you have your perks, but you are not healthy in the long run and Im honestly getting tired of your childish demeanors.

Why am I not Instagram famous already? Is it because I don’t post reels? I wanna make that passive income. Must I sell my left kidney??

>>6883061
This is a place to improve your art, moron, of course we'll criticize beg work

>>6883140
It's not about neglecting criticism, anon, in fact rarely I ever see something resembling actual criticism in this board. Im talking about people wearing other's out for the sake of it. A lot of people here dont want you to actually improve and are only there to flame on others either for fun or out of envy.

Then there're people who try to justify the toxicity of this site by calling it "critiques"; no, anon, calling me a faggot and trying to make a fool out of my presence on the board just because I made a dumb doodle or I said something you didnt like, or my art not being of your liking is not criticism, it's being a twat. And that is without considering how riddled with shitpost and trolling this board is in comparison of other art related threads or even /i/. You say you critique art here, but most of what I see is angry anons trying to drag people down, dumbasses trying to be funny and industrial amounts of depression and shitpost.

>>6883158
I think /ic/ sort of shares this weird characteristic with /fit/, this sort of desire for beauty which becomes bitterness. I notice people on here seem to be routinely focused on figure drawing, which can be a very objective thing with little margin. While there's nothing wrong with figure drawing, I think people should really branch out and not try to focus on one thing if it's what's giving them an inferiority complex which I see a lot. I'm guessing it's because most artists are young which I feel bad about as someone who started drawing when they were old.

>>6883061

Then run back to your favorite hug box, faggot.

/ic/ is part of an essential rhythm of creative energy for certain types of artists. It's a dumping ground for the build up of negative self talk, resentment, anger, hostility, hopeless and confusion that comes with this pursuit, and that comes with being alive in the first place. It's fun to express the hilariously incompetent rage they feel about their lives. Others like to take the reigns off and let their inner demons run amok to work off pent up energies that just can't be cast off in polite company. Paradoxically, it emboldens other cynical, dark minded artists to see others entertaining their demons rather than denying they even exist in an attempt to force themselves into a box.

Creativity as a general concept forces people into sharp contact with dualities and extremes, emotional, physical, spiritual, mental. In the process of exploring those deep personal wells of understanding, we cast nets that pull up demons. These demons are multifaceted and rich with nuance. Not all of us like that we have these demons, but we do, and part of a healthy art practice is understanding that it's okay and normal to (at least some of the time) be a miserable retard devoid of redeeming qualities. It's part of the human experience, an enriching part, and it keeps the coals burning.

Much of the world is filled with fakeness. Fake emotions, fake humbleness, fake gratitude, fake friends, fake politeness, fake politics, fake humor, fake fucking everything. "OH YOU'RE SO GOOD! I LOVE IT! YOU'RE THE BEST. YOU CAN DO IT!" It's asininely overblown in one direction only. It's a politically and intellectually sanitized suburb that wasn't built to accommodate anything more than a kind of false impression of reality, it doesn't accurately reflect the grotesqueries of its denied and hated (yet fated) opposite.

In other words it's full of autistic retards like you, and you'll be back before you can pretend your art matters.

>>6883158
anon, I see plenty of good criticism. What's far more common is that people ignore such criticism and fail to grow. Only really good artists get unfair crabbing here. It's probably not (you)

>>6877541
There's a learning curve but it will allow you to do things easier once you get used to it

>>6883262
That’s a load of shit you stupid fucking nigger I’m crabbed constantly but I’m a permaprebeg.

>>6883169
>I think /ic/ sort of shares this weird characteristic with /fit/, this sort of desire for beauty which becomes bitterness.
Im yet to see how chaotic /fit/ is on that regard, but I suppose it's pretty similar to what you see here? But it's not only what you mention, I've noticed there's a very common mindset of people throwing dirt at other's attempts for very petty reasons that go beyond critiquing for the sake of providing helpful information and are more close to bullying for the sake of their ego or to compensate for their shortcomings, like a crab bucket.
>>6883189
Im not even going to bother reading all that because by "hugbox" and "fake" I can already tell you're missing my point. Im all for harsh criticism, a good shake is not a bad thing to get, I dont believe people should only critique in a way that sounds condescending or too sugarcoated, being bold and sharp is important too. But if you equate being an asshole for the sake of it with actual criticism simply because "muh honesty", you're as much of a problem as those who demand this place to be a hugbox. I reiterate, being a crab because reasons is not criticism, and saying it's valid simply because it's "not fake" is not a justification.
>>6883262
I dont deny there are some good critiques here, as there are idiots who dont listen because reasons Im still baffled about, but the crabbing is quite rampant in this site as well, a lot of people here dont want to see you improve, they want to see you fail. Also, much like this anon >>6883273 I also get my fair share of crabbing even as a /beg/ from time to time, from people genuinely pissed at me for some reason.

>>6883273
well, I guess that's true if you have a strong presence in the beg thread. People are always crabbing on Pawell.

>>6883299

You didn't bother reading the response that obviously suggests the first sentence is actually a joke and that there's another, more emotional reason why people come here that has nothing to do with critique. It's an explanation of why being a crab is not necessarily what you think it is with your sensitive faggot brain and inability to understand nuance. You skim and claim understanding. No wonder you're fucking struggling you pathetic piece of shit.

YOU want a traditional critique board that's strictly useful in the way you want it to be because you're an autistic crybaby that wants everything to go the way you want it to, like some fucking tranny crying about slurs. "Waa, I want people to respond to me the way I want them to, waa, this place is negative and hostile, waa, change your culture to accommodate my precious needs, waa, you're all childish and i'm sick of you and I hate this place but I won't leave because I have no impulse control." This is 4chan you subhuman garbage. You're a dumbass that has failed utterly to even comprehend the culture you're in and so you come here and bitch about it like a special snowflake. You should absolutely leave. You clearly don't belong here and nobody gives a fuck about what you want. But you won't, because you're a retard like the rest of us. You won't, because you need that dopamine hit we provide. You won't, because you're trash like everyone else, you've just convinced yourself that it's the BOARD that needs to change, not you, it's the board that's childish, not you. Yet you're still here! Fucking imagine that. You'll come back here, again and again, wasting your time, wanting things to change, because you won't ever take responsibility for yourself. You are the child.

I'm glad you're still here. It's proof that you're a slave to /ic./ I hope you stay here and feel upset about this place forever. Sink down to the bottom of the crab bucket with us, faggot. It's your fate. Kill yourself.

>>6883299

I do actually legitimately want you to fail, I'd love it if I found out you washed out of art and gave up on all of your silly hopes and dreams. You write like a tranny btw. Who hurt you, was it your mom, your dad, some mean kids at school? How old are you kiddo?

>>6884263
Made me read the whole post to check If you were right.
Kys waste of oxygen and time

>>6878981
You have become too self aware anon. Don't let the evils of this world win over you. You've been given the gift to see past the veil, do something with this gift. Become the change you want to see, or damn it all and live life vicariously. You provide more value than you'll realize, much more than the average "person."

>>6880926
Nah

>>6884298

You're welcome. Maybe go compulsively refresh youtube next looking for entertainment, it's great for keeping personal fulfillment through art away.

>>6884313

Here's a legit counter thought: what if, in having become too self aware, I've actually realized that the "evils" of the world are an essential and inevitable aspect of it, and that I'm destined not to be a thing of goodness, but of pure rottenness that in turn provokes goodness to act? There is no beauty without ugliness, no pleasure without pain, and all that we value in life (all that we regard as sublime especially) involves conflict, tension, give and take, release, chaos. The sting of death is what gives life its edge, the threat of failure is what makes success rewarding, the struggle is what gives release its meaning.

And what if I'm meant to be bad? What if that's my purpose, to cause havoc, to hurt others and myself in some essential way that provokes the creation of value by some other means? A school shooting for example is a terrible thing. Yet that terrible thing helps bond people together, it brings about changes in lives that add richness and nuance to existence. The terrible things that have happened to me have enriched me. I wouldn't be an artist without a "wounding" from my past. What if my purpose is to do something horrible? What if that's the only way I can feel like I have purpose? Why do we assume that the evils of the world need to win someone over, when evil (or whatever immoral behavior your personal framework of ethics accounts for) is innate and inextricable from the nature of reality? Am I supposed to be bad? Am I supposed to hurt others to find out who I am and what I'm worth?

>>6884349
You've become this self aware anon. Why would you believe you're role is already placed in stone? Were you not already "destined" to kill yourself by how sure you seemed to be? Nothing in life is set in stone. You ultimately have the choice to do whatever YOU want, including tipping the scales between the balance of "good and evil." Maybe you haven't realized it yet but life is much more than just the black and white concept of good and bad. At this point, you're overanalyzing it. This is your life to live, do whatever you think is right for YOU.

>finally getting to design the jets used by the mc's side
>tfw all the designs I sketch are more generic than the one used for the bad guys

I can't post it but the idea I settled with looks like a mig 17 got the wings and aileron of an english Electric lightning.

Anyway I might just end up using an unused/experimental design from the real world,tho idk if real world vehicles in fictionnal places and setting would look convincing.

Why is violence rarely depicted in modern art? It's a universaly understood behaviour and the ancient greeks didn't shy away from showing it. Or i might be out of the loop.

>>6884356

But I'm bored and I'd rather self analyze and meditate online in the company of strangers and project my obviously over dramatized insecurities into the void instead of drawing. You know how hard foreshortening is? Fuck that shit, I'd rather bait with AI threads than tackle that boulder.

>>6884420
>He's an AI fag
I take back everything I said then, suicide is definitely in your best interest

>>6884442

I am many things. Some say I'm actually 80% of this board's posts. I influence the tone, the daily pace, the entire ebb and flow. Even the writing style. My only goal is to bring everyone down to the bottom faster so they can snap out of their lethargy, close their fucking browsers, and get back to drawing.

You might not appreciate my methods, but I promise you they are doing their work. I am an unappreciated messiah and my sacrifice empowers others to seize control. These are all shell games, and the only way to win is not to play.

>>6884473
>but I promise you they are doing their work
Proof?

I'm thinking about the terrifying possibility that I'll never make it.

>>6884642
being a professional artist is a totally different beast than being good at drawing. Just be content at being good, and you'll be happy

>>6884251
>this much nonsense to justify the validity of being a faggot online for no reason
>this much projection and implying things out of nowhere
>this much namecalling and insulting
>this much seething
Regrettably I did bother to read all that this time and not only you continue to miss the point, but also decided to play extremely offensive/defensive even though all I said this board is indeed a crab bucket and unhealthy in the long term. Did I hit a nerve or something for you to be this livid? Stop being so childish.

>6884263
>6884335
Damn, Im surprised you managed to fit so many different 4chan-ish insults in one post, kind of like those dumb "this + that + you + me" posts you see from twitterfags. All nonsense and no substance, not even giving you the (You).

>>6884686

Still here, proving my point. You'll be here tomorrow, too, proving my point.

Own up to it. You're trash, too, and you're here to destroy yourself gradually and slowly, just like me. Same priorities, just pretending to be different for the sake of having something to cry about. Kill yourself.

>>6884805

So many villains, so many heroes,so many ideals, so many battles, the clash of the witless on /ic/ is as exciting to read as the shittiest chapters of the shittiest shonen.

I don't care that it's not a race. Being stuck behind so many younger and more talented people still hurts.

Waking up early, coming home late.
I'm so stressed and tired from work, I haven't managed to finish anything decent in months...

My early retirement plan isn't going well. Even optimistic returns are low, meanwhile things are getting more expensive.
My parents who didn't have an issue with me (or my older siblings) living with them are suddenly pushing for marriage. I think they're feeling rushed because all my peers got engaged...

I'm starting to feel more resentful of life in general. It's frustrating, all I want to do is draw yet I have to spend years working and financially securing myself and my family because otherwise we don't get to eat.
Meanwhile the rich and wealthy I pass by on the way to the office enjoy all of that with none of the work. They get to actually live life.

I've been living on the thread of "Maybe I can retire in my 30s" but if I can't draw then what's the point of sticking around?

>>6884858
what job do you work?

>>6884866
Mechanical Lead Engineer - i.e. I'm the responsible mech engineer of whatever project I'm on.
It was a bit easier when I was on one project, but a coworker left so I was handed his project too... While still having a foot in the older one (despite that I handed it to another senior).

It's a lot of stress, there's a lot of overlap in terms of modules/units from one project to the next so your brain gets scrambled switching from one to the other and I'm just constantly behind on everything
The new project sucks too. I'm coming into it fresh while everyone else has been working on it for 2+ yrs.

I try to forget about work soon as I sign out but fuck man. I sit and try to draw and it feels like my brain is fried.

>>6884903
Being an engineer sounds so intense. It's up there with being a lawyer. These careers take so much proactiveness on your part, but for someone else's sake.

I wish life were simpler. If I could make a living working as barista, I think I would. A librarian is the most comfy

>>6884906
Libraries aren't all that comfy anon. Aside from the hobo problem if you live in america they pay you as much as you would expect someone who sits around all day would be paid. But if they didn't demand a degree and the jobs openings weren't so rare I would give it a try, since supposedly you can draw all day on the clock and I like reading too

>>6881384
Only if you have a following already.
Which comes from either having made/published the story already on the Internet or having liked characters or other stories, short comics, etc.

If you're a nobody or a rather small artist who doesn't get enough traction, your campaign will be ignored.

I managed to fund printing my webcomic back in 2019 (pre-pandemic, luckily) with an audience of 5~8k people (on Tapas, not counting other platforms) and at that time I had around 70 patrons.

My campaign wasn't huge, but it sufficed.
Also, go easy on rewards. As much as they're attractive, they will bite you in the ass. The less you have to manage, the better.

>>6878981
Hand on our left is too long, forearm on the other cartoonishly short.

>>6878923
Maybe you keep posting pictures of your lunch and gacha drops.
Don't sweat it, these retards who reblog a billion times are not worth anything because they follow 10.000 artists and are followed by 8 people, so you're not missing out on visibility.

>>6877377
I've just realised my twitter follower count is stuck, what the fuck is this

Wrestling with the idea of phoning it in at work for the next few months while working from home and literally painting while on the clock.

I doubt anyone would know as long as I just do an hour or two a day. I work harder than anyone else in my department by far, but this job will never bring me closer to my goals. I essentially want to retain maximum job security while putting in the absolute minimum effort.

And I wish I didn’t have this unnecessary guilt feeling about this. This job is pointless and does not serve me. I already overperform by a country mile, and in my heart of hearts I think there’s nothing wrong with a conscious attempt at dialling it back.

I’ve watched family members give way too much at a job that doesn’t respect their time or effort. I’ll be damned if I’m going to be another good person trapped in a bad system for longer than I need to be.

>>6885202
You own corporates nothing anon, especially in current year. Given the choice, they would gladly fuck your life over just for the slightest increase in their margin of profits. This world is going to shit under their rule and everyone of us has to either contribute to its destruction or starve. Best to live while doing as little for this stupid society as possible

I was drawing pictures of hot guys a bit ago.
It struck me that a literal decade of stuggling and study this is what I've amounted to:
A faggot dragging himself to his desk after work to draw sexually-charged images of hot guys I'd never get to actually fuck. I could never show this art to anyone, let alone be identified by my screen name irl.

Something about this whole thing felt really pathetic.

>>6885434
Sex shame, inceldom, etc. It's okay. I mean I think you're an ignoble lower lifeform and your very existence repulses me on an existential level, but there are a fuckton of you out there, and even bacteria have a right to be here too, you know?

listening to an artist talk about physics when they know shit about it other than 30 second "DID YOU KNOW" science videos on youtube and they start spouting brainless opinions on it is so fucking nauseating, jesus christ

>>6885440
>you like to kiss men? eww that's ignoble

>>6885497
It's not okay to be gay. It's not okay to be born wrong. I don't love you, respect you, or want you anywhere near the imaginary children I would've have fathered if I wasn't a failure, but I know someone else will love you, and I support their right to make mistakes. It takes all sorts and I'm a libertarian.

>>6885434
There are much worse things one could do with one's life. At least you're doing something you enjoy (hopefully)

I'm going to get published. It will happen because failure is not an option. I just can't do social media, there's no fucking way I'm able to withstand that brain rot. I need a publisher to hype me up and the only way to do that is to have art and writing skills so good and appealing they can't refuse.

>>6885592
>if I wasn't a failure
At least you acknowledge your own flaws too

>>6885736
same. Fuck social media. Fuck Mark Zuckerberg

Why come I only draw well when I should be doing something else

>>6887113
Idk

daily reminder that free resources (as in beer) are always better than paid

>>6887164
if you dont use them then theyre meaningless like letting a beer go flat

I'm not progressive enough to be popular.

I fapped and now I have no motivation to draw. HELP.

>>6887296

The ardbooks I ordered arrived :)
they were supposed to arrive tomorrow but I already got them today

Same people on top of the youtube search over and over and over and over and over again holy fucking shit man it's like only these people on art youtube exist and nobody else.

i feel like i do not deserve any happiness or joy until i am perfect at drawing

>>6883329
i don’t see any of that, he constantly gets dicksucked. at any rate i wouldn’t mind him if he didn’t mass reply

>>6887870
What did you order? It always puts me in a good mood when my artbooks arrive in the mail.

lmfao the christian radio station in my area mentioned “Nikke” then said “goddess of victory” then started explaining the meaning and I just couldn’t stop thinking about the gacha. I had to run out the room before I bust into laughter.

>>6888025
fuck, those are the things that deserve to be recorded for history purposes, too

I've forgotten that feeling of relief after finally finishing a wip after days. It feels great. It's not even a good or complex piece, I'm just happy I finally did it. Like finishing a game you got halfway through and never touched again.

>>6888041
Finishing something is a skill in itself, good job anon

Does Xhitter block images with hashtags if the hashtag is typed and you don't click on the one that's populated instead? I tested this and my images don't show up if I use the hashtag version that doesn't populate and my account gets a search ban until I remove the image.

>>6885202
I've been doing this for three years and no one has noticed. Hell some of my best work was done this way cause I wasn't burnt out.

>>6888017
these

Nothing against this thread, but this board is pointless without the torrents/megas

Everything in this board is a debate/crabbing/people just being dickheads.

There's no reason to be this rude, there's no mental gymnastics you can use to justify it because if you're being mean, you can just be ignored, any "advice" you give isn't sage wisdom and can be received else where


also just draw for fun, if you dont draw for multiple hours a day forget studying - i've seen people get really mad at this advice but it's true.

and why do people care so much about painting vs drawing and trad vs digital? all these mediums are great and it's healthy to try each of them out here and there. If you like drawing, draw, maybe "learn painting in an hour" sometime and then paint a little here and there.

But of course if this board was just people posting art/art news and having normal discussions that'd be too boring, so people have to act out to spice things up. It's alright, let them

>>6888093
I browse this board for fun, btw and for resources when i need it. before some wiseass cracks the "OH SO WHY ARE YOU STILL HERE??? IF YOU DONT LIKE IT LEAVE!!!!"
- relax buddy, im allowed to criticize this board

>>6888093
Why are you not here more? If you like it you should participate more often.

>>6888102
i never said i liked this board,
I don't like this board - although i have to admit it's helped me a lot, but only through resources and the few criticisms i've received that wasn't assholery

>>6888088
Are the bottom 2 translated?

>spend a full hour trying to understand what an ESL's asking me to draw
>lose all interest in drawing it as soon as they explain it in a way that makes any sense
I'm tired and hungry. At least I can fuck off and eat to solve one of those issues now.

>>6888234
Ai post, bravo.

>>6888088
based selection
id add bridgman because his shape language is fantastic, i need to grab an actual physical copy of his complete life drawing someday

How the hell do people draw a finished thing every day? It takes me days to come up with one good idea/get inspired. Are good artists just able to shit out constant masterpieces without hours of brainstorming/random inspiration?

I had a dream where the hacker anonymous created a virus that ate machine learning models from the inside out making a outputs unreadable. It was kinda nice desu

>>6888315
Those artists either use 3d or copy exact references or they have legitimate autism. Also most likely don't have a job.

With AI art coming around I feel like now is the time to get into 3D art. I feel like the pipeline from concept art to 3D art is going to get shortened by quite a bit, specifically with optimal retopology and texturing.

>>6888337
Art is a job when you live from it.
>Those artists either use 3d
Oh, you're just coping, nvm.

>>6888347
I don't feel threatened by AI at all, but I'm extremely high IQ and know how to adapt to rising tides, I also have severe crippling depression and permanent existential dread so nothing affects me anyways

I want to thank the nig who jacked my handle, he did me a solid.

>>6888366
What's your plan for adapting to the rising tide? Or is it a you'll know it when it comes kinda deal? It's not "I'll use ai" is it? Cos that's kinda cuck behavior.

>>6888347
>optimal retopology and texturing.
The way things are going, no. All the fun stuff, modelling? Ai will do it. Retopo is too hard for ai. Check Nvidia's latest 3d generative ai out.

Got a used cintiq pro 24 for pretty cheap so I could finally work on the comic I've always wanted to
but compared to the ipad pro it feels like shit, it's so much less responsive it feels like i have perma stabilization and I can't get used to csp at all
just laying here now idk what to do maybe I just rope

>>6888642
Go back to /g/, brainless consumerist idiot

>>6889053
quoted the wrong person? clearly that's not a pro ai poster.

Wow they actually put manga coloring books on the checkout shelves at my local Publix now. That’s so cool and weird at the same time. There must be money in the coloring book stuff.

>>6889282
Also I wanted to buy one so I could show it here but I’m strapped for cash

>>6888642
Nope, not that. Generative AI is useless for actual artists, if I wanted to paint over a generated image, why would I not just paint over some actually good art and composite it with other pieces?
No, I have a much better plan in mind.

>>6889314
oh no plan then. cool.

>>6889284
>so strapped for cash you can't even buy a coloring book
is it that expensive or are you in a really bad spot right now? Hope things work out for you anon

>>6889447
Yes, I only had enough for a bread to make tuna and case of water but i’ll be fine, thanks anon.

>>6877377
my biggest barrier to making it isn't even skill anymore it's being a mentally ill autistic retard who can't go more than 3 days without having a panic attack. i know what i need to do to draw better, i don't know how to stop my brain from constantly betraying me

thank you to the guy who said to use mirror instead of flip in ASP. Coming from Photoshit that did confuse me

>>6889466
This is a new issue for me, I've found that cutting out caffeine, alcohol and nicotine have reduced the frequency and severity of my panic attacks. I don't know if you use any of those thing but if you do try stopping and see if it helps.

>>6883272
It's been a week since I set it up and you are correct. Once I figured out a) I can adjust the screen area that the tablet works in and making it only work in the canvas area + using my mouse and hotkeys to adust tools, and b) HOW FUCKING IMPORTANT ZOOMING IN IS, it got a lot easier.

Shit seems obvious but after literal decades of just sketchbook drawing, the concept of "you can just get closer to the canvas" did not register.

>>6889515
just try to use it for your general internet usage instead of a mouse for a while. playing osu might be pretty good for building coordination as well. doing a lot of sight-size and bargue studies helped me a lot with learning to draw digitally

>>6889466
Have you tried taunting and baiting your panic attacks when you sense them coming? Asking them to get worse, personify them and say bring it on bitch! This helped me, used that method for about a year and I don't get them at all anymore.

Cool isn't cool anymore. What do I draw now that what used to be cool is no longer cool.
>fashion
not cool
>beautiful people
not cool
>edgy stuff
not cool
>fantasy
not cool
>sci-fi
not cool
>anime
not cool
>horror
not cool

>>6889594
What's no longer cool is the new cool.

>>6889594
Draw toilets, no one is drawing toilets, bonus points if it has poo in it.

>>6889594
Draw candy.

>>6889626
skibiditoilet

>>6890437
https://youtu.be/CazqXc5qrf8?si=rLaAOzOVdsL30KaV

bump

Is becoming a professional artist worth it? Or should I keep it as a hobby?

Do you guys have some childish/unrealistic dream that's non-art related?

I've always wanted a beautiful Oriental/Asian walled garden. Lush greens, dark rocks to contrast, a small water feature with running water...
I don't own any land, and I never will considering the economy.

Even if I did, the weather would kill anything that isn't specifically adapted to this heat. And those plants are anything but "lush" and "beautiful".
The amount of irrigation and pest-control would be unreal too.
It's just stupid. But I hate that it -exists- somewhere yet it can never be my garden...

>>6893143
I want my own studio with perfect acoustics, audio systems for listening to music, ambient lighting, etc. Some music gear in there would be great too, but just for hanging out and listening to music is more than enough. I've been in recording studio rooms like that and I am kind of in love with that atmosphere.

>>6892759
try it, if you don't like it, go back to it being a hobby.

I fucking hate being seen drawing. people are always quick to point out shit you already know every 5 minutes because they don't know you'll work on that a couple minutes later. Not their fault but it's still infuriating kek.

>>6893198
>people are always quick to point out shit you already know every 5 minutes because they don't know you'll work on that a couple minutes later
where are you being seen drawing? the only way i can see someone saying this is in some sort of school/life drawing perhaps but they're probably also artists so they should know what theyre saying is redundant

I have seen bad digital artists doing great traditional artworks. How can i even hope to be a gmi if even my handwriting is unironically really bad?

>>6893208
My hand writing is horrendous but my art is pro. You can make it.

>>6893204
commission streams, for example sometimes they'll see you placing the face features for measurements and think you drew the face wrong so they try to correct you on the spot when you were just trying to get the proportions right.

How many of you kokujins smoke weed and draw? What kind of results are you getting? Used to avoid the stuff when drawing since everything came out off kilter. Seemed like a waste of a high and a drawing session but I got a big supply recently and with a little practice I feel like I'm learning how to steer my pot brain more when drawing. It feels fucking amazing, like drawing for the first time again and everything is magical, except I also have access to all the experience.

>>6893294
pyw

I'm pissed my comments keep getting censored on youtube. I switch accounts and my comment is not even there.

>>6893434
I've tried it a few times and don't particularly enjoy it. I don't focus well on it I guess and it kind of feels like disrespecting the process to me.
I would say "maybe I'd like it more if I was better" but I get better each year and each time I try it doesn't change cause my expectations keep changing lol

>>6878981
You have value anon, stay alive.

But also FUCK YOU BITCH. Don't you give up on me you piece of shit. Worse than the fucking middle schoolers I have to deal with at work.

>>6893635
cringe

>intend to open comms again after crunching a huge project
>get RSI because of crunch and can't work on comms
hey alright

>>6893706
Is crunch illegal?

>>6893712
not really but in this instance it was purely self-inflicted because i wanted the project to be done faster

>>6893701
cringe

>those rule34 sites tagged my name wrong because it has a katakana character

>>6894006
you will never be japanese

>>6894210
This. There are thousands of good names in other languages unregistered but you choose a Jap name.

Any non-satanic/non-degenerate artists?

>>6894224
this is Water Cooler Talk thread, not the stupid question thread.

>>6894224
>website full of porn addicts and compulsive masturbators
>Any non-degenerate artists?

>>6877377
I'm back to drawing after a year of not drawing anything due to depression. Of course my first thing I'm making is a complex warped perspective on a glass surface on top of a skull. My friend has a book idea he hasn't published because he wants me to illustrate it. He's old and my goal is to finish it this year before he dies so he can see his book get released. It's going to be a illustration of the time he and his friends were shown a real human skull under a glass case. It was in his friend's dad collection of war memorabilia. I'm probably going to ask pol/tards to share pictures of their Nazi WII memorabilia collection so I can get references for a background design.

I am starting a digital art course and one of the big assignments is creating a storyboard and art work around the story. They told us anything goes, but does it? The ideas i want to create are violent and grotesque, should i just tone it down to avoid scrutiny from my peers and teachers? I mean most of the work i see is Call arts and fantasy stuff.

>hey can you draw this character but making this really extreme and cartoonish expression that said character would never make?
>draw it
>can you make it look more like the character?
is it safe to say it's a complicated task or is it simply a skill issue?

>>6894408
Good caricature takes skill.

>>6877876
Can you share the trick please?

I don't get it, how does k-suwabe make every artwork he does look epic? It's epic, simply epic...

i've been so lonely recently. all my friends are online and they're all too busy with irl stuff now to hang out with me, and there's not any hope of making irl friends because i live in a small town in the middle of nowhere and nobody here is anything like me. not in a "i'm so specshul" way but just in a the things we're into and the values we have are totally different way. i'd be more at home in a city.
all i really got left is drawing, which you think would motivate me to draw more but on reality i'm just super depressed and sinking deeper all the time

I don't actually know how to draw anything. I just gaslight people with deceptive lines.

>>6895303
hang in there, here's a cheerleader drawing to cheer you on to draw

>stopped focusing on rendering because drawing was weak
>spend all time drawing
>now decent at drawing but bad at rendering
uhnnghhhuuuuuggggggggghhhhhhnnhnhhhhh

>bad at anatomy
>decide enough is enough and it's time to do some studies
>fuck looking for refs, tho
>go to the mirror in shorts and with paper & pencil
>...
>"hey, I don't look so bad"
Uuuh, yeah. Gotta keep dieting and lifting. And find an excuse to go outside, haha.
Besides that, I think I improved through those weeks weeks a drew daily for a hour/two, or maybe I just found drawing stuff I want to draw.

>>6895644
>man I need to do some anatomy studies
>man I need to improve my rendering
>man I need to work on my understanding of lighting
>man I need to work on my perspective
>man I need to AAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>6879492
>Also, this is like the opposite of watercooler talk
Anon, my sides

>Draw :)
>Depression :(

how do I stop feeling so sad :(

>>6896372
There's only one way I figured out but then you end up not feeling anything at all

>have 8 hour study session yesterday after not studying for a month and a half
>get so extremely sick I can't even watch a movie and just lay there dying
>its going to be like this for weeks

FUCK MY LIFE EVERYTIME I TRY TO IMPROVE IT BAD THINGS AHPPEN AUGHHH

Do you ever look at your old art from when you were a kid and think about what would have happened if you never stopped drawing? It's been fun getting into art again after a 10 year gap. But I keep thinking to myself, what if I never stopped. It's simultaneously encouraging and discouraging

>>6896670
Holy shit are you me
Every day I regret quitting as a kid. Not only because I'm stuck wondering how good I'd be now if I didn't, but also because I wonder what young me would've drawn. How did he see the world? How would he express himself? That's an alternate past I really wish I could see.

If it's any consolation, this is a reminder to not give up again. I don't wanna ask the same questions again 10 years from now.

>>6896372
>>6896460
fugg try dxm honestly if ur suicidal baka might as well have some fun with otc cough syrup if ur that low bruh

>>6896695
Let's keep going anon. Never give up again.

>>6896695
the ridley i drew in like 6th grade while looking at the smash bros melee trophy screen was pretty fucking good for the time

>>6896670
i already had this last year and came to the conclusion that i would've killed myself because the only thing i have outside of drawing is videogames

>>6896721
dxm sucks.

the cool cough syrup is the one with ephedrine and glaucine. makes your brain feel nice and cozy but you're not too impaired to draw.

>>6877377
I am so fucking lost and confused in art as a beg, I don't even know what to do anymore. I jump around from one practice/book/video/tutorial/study/suggestion to another, doing a poor job at those, and then I'm too scared to try to make anything on my own because I know it's shit and not what it's like in my head at all. It all comes out terribly because I'm terrible, I know this, but it's so fucking frustrating like banging my head against a brick wall. I've been sitting at my table all day looking at a blank canvas because it's beautifully pristine and untainted by what I might do to it. How the fuck do I get over this need for perfection when I can't even get the basic fundies done right? Why does it always feel like I'm going nowhere and how do I get over this so I can finally get good? How do I stop hating myself and my work when art's an activity I want to enjoy?

>>6897908
>jumping around

Stop jumping around, that's more than half of your problem. What are you studying? Stick with it.

>>6877504
I don't care :)

I charge more for comms than a twitter artist who was mean to me a few years ago

>>6896670
I'm glad it worked out that way for me because I know I would've went to art school and ended up working in concept art for some shitty soulless corporation.

>>6888088
>Marvel Comics
>Korean art books
Based anon. Focus on Western Franchises and the studios that animate them, you'll have a job and earn them US Dollars and KR Won, unlike the Jap LARPers that purulate the art community.

>have to work on a community service project for college
>decide to make a crappy educational video game, among other things
>have to postpone some adult commissions in order to work in the assets for my game
>haven't had so much fun in a long time
I had forgotten how much fun it was to draw cartoonish stuff.

>>6897908
The only thing that saved me out of begdom was figure drawing. I took one look at all the figure drawing books oit there and realized how important it was, so i just made myself copy photos of nude models every single day, for several hours a day. I decided to leave the theory for when i had time, and to slowly investigate the multitude of books out there, but always, the figure drawing practice came first.

The Overwatch 2 stuff is driving me insane because people are mistaking vapid generic kpop shit for AI (it may as well be but that's not the point) and are pointing to actual human errors (as opposed to AI errors) and stylistic choices as signs of AI when 90% of other artists do the same thing.

>>6898325
It's AI, you dumb retard. Edited, but still AI.

>>6898345
people are too over-exposed to (((((masterpiece)))))) (((((artstation top 5))))) artstyles that people like you forgot that a human made the artworks responsible for those prompts existing

I skimmed through the artbook I'm studying and there's just so much stuff to remember I don't see how I'll cram it all into my brain.

I wanna join the drawpile threads but can't because i use an ipad. If I started hosting aggies here would you guys join me?

>make a character with pink, white and blue color scheme
>"is this trans rep??"
I hate terminally online idiots so goddamn much

>>6899591
Sucks, but what can you do? Just ignore

>three years ago joined a group of artists, there was a nice guy(cute, funny, interesting, supportive)
>became close, started to share our drawings(hentai), he corrected my drawings
>got a crush on him, became more motivated to draw
>a little bit later learnt that he got a girlfriend, who is a lot younger and cuter than me
>all motivation went down
the fuck should I do? And we still hang out, he shares hentai pics with me. with each day passing I love him more and more and he probably knows it, and a passion for drawing become appaling to me

>>6900679
>shares hentai with you
>yet has girlfriend
you're dodging a giant bullet, move on

>>6900679
what sad individuals this board breeds, you wanted to be in an e relationship with a guy sending you hentai? the absolute state of the mental retardation on ic

>>6900689
yoda dropping absolute wake up calls

>>6900679
Why would he share hentai pics with you? Can't you find your own hentai pics?
Anyway, you should block him and move on if you want to keep drawing in your life. Continue to associate it with him if you want to ruin art and drawing for yourself entirely. It's not love. It's depression.

>>6900679
Parasocial impulse gone out of control.

Meet some people in the real world.

>>6900685
I actually started first, then it became our routine. We see nothing wrong with it. It's just pictures.
>>6900689
>you wanted to be in an e relationship with a guy sending you hentai?
You clearly are a zoomer or poor. We are both adults and I can easily travel to him If I want to
And no, he didn't only send me hentai. he supported me, he can listen and give an advice to my art. He critisized my works but without being too harsh. He send me money when I was struggling. I dare to say he motivates me to draw, because he always praises me. I think I received more praise from him in those 3 years than I did in my whole(25) life. He watches the movies I recommend and listens to albums I send to him and then gives a feedback.
>>6900696
>Why would he share hentai pics with you?
We are both frelance artist and make money by drawing hentai and we always need to be horny and in a mood. Also, for inspirational.
>Can't you find your own hentai pics?
Easily. I replied above. I also send him hentai and I see nothing wrong with it.
>you should block him and move on if you want to keep drawing in your life
I can't, he is actually my only friend. And drawing is my job, so I had to draw everyday even if I don't want to.
>It's not love. It's depression.
I sometimes want to see a doctor so he would give me pills. But I'm scared it would ruin my libido and I need it to draw.
>>6900701
>Parasocial impulse gone out of control.
I'm far from those psychologycal things. I'll research, thank you.
>Meet some people in the real world.
That's the problem. I dropped out of the college and out go out if I want to eat or take out trash. I don't know where can I meet new people. I'm too introverted.

how do i stop caring about what people say about me on discord.?

>>6901399
Anon from >>6900696 here. I'll assume this guy is around your age (25) and dating someone much younger than you (assuming 18 at least), all while you two send each other porn daily under the guise of it being 'work-related', and him feeding you enough attention to listen to every album and watch every movie you recommend and give you his thoughts. If you really want to do something about this, you should either get him to break up with his younger, cuter gf and date you (he won't btw) or cut him off and start getting your life in order. You can continue to draw porn for a living if you wish, but you need to get the rest of your shit in order so you stop falling for any discord groomer who gives you a crumb of his attention. Since you're not poor, look up local art classes or life drawing sessions to find a community to make some less mentally ill friends. Give yourself a consistent routine if you don't have one, and go outside for a walk alone at least once a day. Start looking into artists and painters like Sargent, Antonio Mancini, Sorolla, whatever you like and appreciate actual art beyond anime porn pin ups, broaden your horizons, and maybe you'll find enjoyment in art again beyond this sad groomer's validation and porn.
Ignore all of this if you wish for your well-being to continue to deteriorate and your depression and fependency on this man to get worse. Godspeed.

>spend 8+ years on drawing
>still suck ass at it, can barely get myself to finish a piece anymore

>try out 3D/sculpting a year ago, in between drawing
>start posting my projects on Artstation 2 months back
>already got an offer from a studio who want paid samples
... It kinda pisses me off.
8 fucking years I spent and I can't get people to look twice at my art. Now within a year of sculpting and I've already taken two commissions and gotten a a
chance with a studio.

Why is it always like this? Why can't I be good or successful doing the things I want to do?
This was just meant to be... something creative to do on the side, turns out I'm good enough at it that people will give me their hard-earned money to do it.
I'm fucking mad.

>>6901535
supply and demand, it's easier to pickup drawing than to learn how to 3D, that's why /3/ only has 3 people posting. Congrats on the job though.

Greetings everyone, I am finally able to talk here.

So how are you all ?

>>6902557
Good evening sir

>>6902559
same to you, sir.

How was your day.

>>6902608
just wonderful thanks
i hope yours was better than mine

>>6902618
today was pretty nice. wonderful thanks to you too

This has been the worst year for art for me since 2008 or so. It's so bad that I don't even want to commemorate the year with a nother painting. My next painting is on the theme of artistic failure.

I think on the one hand that it's probably best to destroy a number of canvases that I'm labourers on which isn't withput irony.