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>> No.6887204
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Ethan Becker's my favorite, because he actually teaches you how to get into the animation industry

>> No.6887207

ㅎㅎ

>> No.6887227

>>6887204
Don’t listen to him, only listen to /ic/!!!

>> No.6887233
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James Gurney fucks

>> No.6887253

>>6887227
always never dont you ever not listen to ic

>> No.6887256
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Proko
I love this little guy!

>> No.6887259

>>6887198
I used to really enjoy listening to will terrell when he was active on youtube. Nowadays I don't really follow anyone like that.

>> No.6887265

>>6887198
idk what you mean by "youtube artist" but the only artists I regularly watch are David Finch and Steven Zapata

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>>6887233
I like when he's explaining stuff calmly and you hear brush noises scratching inside your ear

>> No.6887273

Kenzo aka Love life drawing. No real theatrics/epic memes, covers stuff clearly, pleasant voice

>> No.6887288

>>6887198
Marco Bucci, I pretty much saved all of his videos in case JewTube ever dies, I've done this with a couple of other channels too.

>> No.6887292

>>6887198
sycra

>> No.6887295

>>6887198
who's OP pic?

>> No.6887297

>>6887295
Alisa Chung
queen of neets

>> No.6887300

>>6887198
How old is this woman? I honestly can't tell if she's 20 or 35.

>> No.6887303

>>6887300
She always avoids the question
but she's probably around 18-22

>> No.6887308

>>6887297
>queen of neets
I'm pretty sure that just a character she puts on, isn't it?

>> No.6887355

>>6887198
Alisa definitely posts here

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>>6887198
plague of gripes. i mostly like listening to his voice.

>> No.6887376

funny japanese hat man

>> No.6887377

I only watch the Japanese watercolor guy for asmr

>> No.6887383
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>>6887259
The dude had kinda dark story arc. Worked dead end customer service job, mired in depression while filling sketchbooks with bad scrawls while coworkers used him to draw their inane normie humor ideas for free. Continuing to not make it while filling more sketchbooks and sinking further into dead end job. Finally finds love and things start looking up, starts YouTube channel and cheerful giggles ensue. Moves to pedowood to pursue animation. Finally gets in at wb. ????quits wb and moves back to hometown with wife and kids?? vanishes forever and never posts on YouTube again. Profit I guess?

>> No.6887390

>>6887233
His YouTube videos have literally changed my life.

>> No.6887438

having a youtube channel and being a good artist worth listening to are mutually exclusive

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>>6887198
>10 times the likes for a pic of her in shorts vs artwork
Grim.

>> No.6887445

>>6887443
this says a lot about society

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>>6887443
the trick is to combine the 2

>> No.6887462

>>6887443
Nobody cares about her skill, they just want to see her turn into another whore.

>> No.6887466

>>6887377
shibasaki is my youtube grandpa

>> No.6887494

>>6887462
I would unironically send her neetbux if she took the onlyfans route

>> No.6887495

>>6887443
When will women finally admit that society as a whole is far, far less critical of women's appearance than men's? This completely average looking girl who puts next to no effort into her appearance has an army of horny guys who follow her just because they might get to see a photo of her weird, lanky body.

>> No.6887496

>>6887495
weird lanky bodies are the best stfu

>> No.6887536

>>6887198
Probably Brendan James Greer? He just makes pixel art, but I just really like watching people geek out about their passions, and since it's art, our interest align.
Of course there's the stuff everyone watches too, like David Flinch.

>>6887443
She made her career about HERSELF talking about her art, not about her art; so it's no wonder that images of her garner more traction. That's the audience she has cultivated.

>>6887496
>weird
Kinda proving his point honestly.

>> No.6887632

>>6887383
if he's not in california anymore then it's probably for the best. Wish him the best and if he's not living from art anymore at least he lived his dream for a while.

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>>6887383
redpill me on the animation industry. Is it really as bad as people say?

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>>6887198
she cute

>> No.6887774

>>6887383
Oh, he isn't active anymore? Shame, I watched some of stuff recently.
The advice of "just draw a blob" when starting a piece is surprisingly helpful.

>> No.6887777

>>6887636
If Japanese animation industry abuses it's workers then imagine how bad working for Californians is.

>> No.6887778

>>6887725
she ugly enough i could get her easy
but not ugly enough i cant fuck all night
5/10 would

>> No.6887779

>>6887448
>the guy calling out Reddit got upvoted
There is hope.

>> No.6887784

>>6887204
hey thanks for the rec, I watched one of his videos and I liked it a lot. His tips are really helpful

>> No.6887794

>>6887784
I was surprised too because /ic/ hates him, but he actually teaches good info behind all the social media posturing. The best video is the one from avatar, where he teaches you how to make master copies

>> No.6887807

>>6887794
Anons are just too contrarian for its own good. That said, his sense of humour can be annoying - shut up, stop playing with your microphone and knife, and get to the fucking point, chucklefuck. You could cut out probably half of his video out, and there'd still be annoying factitious bits in there.

>> No.6887826

>>6887273
I want Kenzo to give me a hug and tell me its gonna be alright.

>> No.6887830

Jordan Grimmer, Hardy Fowler, Sinix and Bobby Chiu, Ethan Becker, Adam Duff

These vary in content from straight up tutorials to interviews and just mental health. Check em out
>>6887807
to be fair if he cut that out he wouldn't be nearly as popular. Shit you gotta do to make it as a youtuber I guess
>>6887204
>>6887784
https://www.projectcity.tv/about

>> No.6887844

>>6887777
>imagine how bad working for Californians is
Shitty politics and self indulgent personalities aside, it's probably pretty good?
The big issue with the American animation industry is, seemingly, lack of job security. Rather than a studio hiring you and having a constant stream of projects to keep you consistently employed, most animators' contracts end when a show ends, essentially losing their job. Some even have their contract end per season of the show.

You can imagine how stressful it is living in fucking Hollywood, paying their shy-high shit rent prices, all while trying to find the next job as quickly as possible.
I also think it's just a bit of a slap to the face that animators don't get any residuals for their shows, but the shit head Hollywood actors DO for being a voice actor in an animated series - I imagine animators must be seething at the strikes right now, especially if it's effecting their job right now.

Anyway, that's one leg up japan has on American animation; I believe if you work at a studio there, you don't need to worry about your contract ending... you just need to worry about affording that cup of noodles and whether you can afford rent, all while having your boss scream at you for not finishing your incredibly tight deadline.

>> No.6887941

>>6887774
the how to draw from reference shark video was pretty useful too.

>> No.6887942

>>6887777
I had one friend who worked in animation, she went to art school for 3 yrs with scholarships (graduated early) made 60k a year out of school doing backgrounds for Disney kids cartoons. She said it was ok but most of her coworkers were really old, in their 40s and there were a lot of office politics. Hours weren’t bad, she didn’t get overworked only issue long term jobs isn’t really a thing. Not bad compared to Asia at all

>> No.6887977

>>6887308
Obviously. Women can't be neets

>> No.6887986

>>6887778
>i could get her easy
Yeah anon I'm sure she would choose exactly you out of the thousands of simps she has.

>> No.6887998

>>6887725
Not bad, how big is his cock?

>> No.6888007

>>6887844
>I also think it's just a bit of a slap to the face that animators don't get any residuals for their shows, but the shit head Hollywood actors DO for being a voice actor in an animated series - I imagine animators must be seething at the strikes right now, especially if it's effecting their job right now.
Weird way of saying artists should be payed residuals also, not just VA's.

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The worst part is she's not even cute or hot.

>> No.6888045

>>6887256
is this real? fr

>> No.6888089

>>6888007
>I also think it's a slap to the face that animators don't get any residuals for their shows, but the actors DO for being a voice actor in an animated series
>Weird way of saying artists should be payed residuals also, not just VA's.
Remove a little bit of the colourful language, and the superfluous bit at the end, and it's more or less stated outright. What's weird about it?

>> No.6888205

>>6887204
Permabeg outing himself

>> No.6888208

>>6887443
>>6887448
I hate women

>> No.6888209

>>6888208
Cause you are brainwashed cretin. At least you could say modern woman or whatever but you are just cretin.
Don`t act like mods do buddy.

>> No.6888293

>>6887941
Indeed, that was pretty good. I need to rewatch it

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>>6887198
i love my girlfriend

>> No.6888301

>>6888300
Well, now I have to fap again.

>> No.6888357

>>6888300
>those hands
>those feet
looks like a man with long hair

>> No.6888359

>>6888357
In this day and age you have to question whether or not everyone's a Man.

>> No.6888372

>>6888357
Based troons living in your head rent free

>> No.6888388

>>6888300
she looks like she smells like the chinese feed and seed store where I buy bird food

>> No.6888439

>>6888388
Hot. Love gross bitches like that.

>> No.6888442

>>6888388
such an universal smell, I already can feel it kek

>> No.6888470

James Gurney. I literally learned to paint watercolor and gouache almost intuitively just by watching his stuff on youtube. Also, some of his videos literally made me cry.

David Finch. His art doesn't really appeal to me, but hiis advice is solid. His lives copyng Frazetta and Claire Wendling are probably the videos I've watched the most times on YT.

Chris Legaspi. Hands down the best head drawing/portrait videos I've ever seen, including payed content. I challenge anyone here to do the exercises on his "Skills that Pay the Bills" series and not improve INSTANTLY. Also, the sheer amount of content he puts up is amazing. Hundreds of hours of great classes and demos.

I watch a lot of Sinix and MDJ because I like their art, but not necessarily every advice they give clicks with me.

>> No.6888481

>>6888470
Bonus: least favorite art youtuber is Rin. Her art is terrible and 90% of her content is commenting on art twitter drama (protagonized by other terrible artists) with the most midwit takes I've ever seen and the confidence only a white woman saying stupid things can display.

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>>6888470
>I watch a lot of Sinix and MDJ because I like their art, but not necessarily every advice they give clicks with me.
I can see that, some of the stuff they explain requires you to watch some of their older videos to be able to soak in the information fully, and even then it feels someone else could've explained it better. Like the video on tempo from Sinix, one guy in the comments section explained the idea and I immediately understood what he was going about, also I dislike when they show a demo on x400 speed, I understand why they do it but if you're teaching about rendering I'd like to see the actual brush strokes being placed in real time or something close to it.

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>>6888300
would not surprise me in the least if she browsed 4chan regularly

>> No.6888518

>>6888515
kekk

>> No.6888520

>>6888470
Thanks, I need to revisit Chris Legaspi. I watched his nma rendering course as a year 1 /beg/ and got nothing out of it and I hated him for it ever since, but maybe 7 years later, I can finally learn from him

>> No.6888521

>>6888020
She doesn't need to be hot, she just need to be that sarcastic and cynical girl that share your weird interests and seem almost in your league, hell her lanky Elliott Rogers looking ass makes her even more approachable.

>> No.6888547

>>6888520
I watched this course as well, and it's crap indeed. NMA has a lot of these "filler" courses intended to convince newbies that their subscription is a good deal. But his stuff on portraits and color are really amazing. I think that the he's so good at it because many other artists who teach do not necessarily work a lot with portraits, while for Chris, who's a poster artist, portaits are his bread and butter.

>> No.6888566

>>6888547
thanks anon, I'll avoid the nma course but will check out his youtube

>> No.6888579

steven zapata is good.
david finch has strong fundamentals.
jim lee makes everything look easy and gives some good breakdowns.
siya oum has some of the prettiest linework i've ever seen.

there's also the mangaka that occasionally stream their work, or the ones that give some insight into their work ethic that has led to their success. i think all of the ones i've seen that are pretty successful start with rough sketches on paper for their basic storyboard and most of them have a literal library of references and resources, from magazines about fashion, to nature, to history. i imagine all of them have invested thousands of dollars into having a shitload of visual references on hand.

i've also seen videos of a couple of moderately successful oil painters, one based out of norway i think that does quick paints within the span of an hour of various parts of the city for his clients and will then do a detailed oil once his clients settle on a desirable angle. another guy literally paints photographs but does it to a larger scale than the photo taken and does it to almost lifelike accuracy. while he's essentially a copy machine he has shown off some great brush techniques to achieve a high level of detail in his paintings that the average person looks at and scratches their head wondering how it might've been done. he also tries to sell his brushes every video. forgot his name.

>> No.6888596

most of the big ones are all about clickbait and empty generic advice which is kinda annoying, i find way more value in looking for what i need and scrolling through an enormous quantity of videos until i find it

KJG is very good for getting the urge to draw

>> No.6888641

>>6888045
yeah

>> No.6888650

Deep blizzard and minimaru. Best jap YouTubers hands down

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>>6888650
minimaru's deep manly voice scared me. Really a contrasting image to his big booba V-tuber icon

>> No.6888669

>>6887774
Link to video? Where I can see that?

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>>6888653
>tfw you have to be a vtumor behind a brightly colored anime girl avatar to have viewers
>People need to listen to a feminine voice to keep them viewing
About that hard reset, when are we finally going to see the epic cataclysmic culling? Are the poles going to shift yet? Where the hell is wormwood? I was told there would be gaping holes in the ozone layer which would cause the ice caps to melt and awaken some eldritch ancient terror by now.

>> No.6888768

>>6888673
it's going to be a much slower, agonizing end unfortunately.

>> No.6889295

>>6887198
>>6887725
>>6888300

I'd love to shag her desu

but also in terms of youtubers that are art orientated i don't watch any besides the occasional naoki saito

I also watch "monstergarden" but thats just about worldbuilding that happens to be over concept art and drawing livestreams

>> No.6889298

>>6889295
>I'd love to shag her desu
Nah, you don't.

>> No.6889306

>>6888300
SEXO

>> No.6889318

>>6888669
I think it was one of his first urban sketching videos.

>> No.6889481

>>6888372
wasn't it confirmed on one of her old accounts that she's trans? still would btw

>> No.6889491

>>6887204
I can't get over how annoying he is

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>>6889481
proof NOW there's no way her form is as feminine and delicate as it gets

>> No.6889541

>>6889481
Haven't heard this. Can I get a source on that?

>> No.6889543

>>6889540
>>6889541
im at work anons, but i think it was some reddit account or sum shit she's deleted since

>> No.6889545

>>6889481
probably just a she/they silly bitch, also would

>> No.6889549

>>6887977
>Women can't be neets

Since when? Keep in mind, a neet isn't synonymous with an incel.

>> No.6889554

>>6889481

Highly unlikely. Her voice sounds female, and that's the one thing trannies can't fake...yet.

>> No.6889571

>>6889543
Okay, get back at us when you find the source to your claims.

>> No.6889580

>>6889571
nigga google, if nobody posts ill try to find it but i work for a living

>> No.6889581

>>6887233
Yeah, fucks men

>> No.6889628

>>6889580
You're the one making the claim. I'll be here when you provide a source to the claim.

>> No.6889653

>>6887198
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WV82BGfFjbM
i like this guy

>> No.6889705

>>6887204
He's the best because he appeals to my zoomer brain and tells me how not to be racist

>> No.6889708

>>6887198
What ethnicity is she?

>> No.6889716

>>6889708
Half chinese half white, larps as japanese because it's trendy

>> No.6889719

Imagine if everyone on the internet collectively treated women on the internet like normal people

Wow

>> No.6889720

>>6889716
>tfw no art hapa gf

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>>6889719
>women
>people

>> No.6889752

Imagine if this was you everyone was dissecting

>> No.6889758

>>6889752
i love you alisa
please marry me

>> No.6889764

>>6889752
I LOVE YOU ALISA!!!!!!!!

>> No.6889786

>>6889752
Then I'd grow a spine, there's trying to become an e-celeb if you can't live with the fact there are mentally ill people roaming around the internet who will fantasize about drinking your piss or wishing to bottle some of your braps.

>> No.6889790

>>6889786
>*there's no point in*

>> No.6889795

>>6889752
marry me plz...
need (want)... qt hapa... NEET wife...

>> No.6889804
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>>6889752
>try to cultivate an audience of neet weirdos
>the weirdos are weird

>> No.6889836

>>6889752
I will unironically pay for your food and let you live with me for free for the rest of your life

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>>6887778
>she ugly enough i could get her easy
>but not ugly enough i cant fuck all night
>5/10 would

>> No.6889852

>>6887233
jej I thought i was the only one.

>> No.6889885

>>6887198
Watercolor by Shibasaki. Bob Ross of watercolor. Recommend for all ages to learn color theory.

>>6887256
Proko definitely one of my favorite, he is a talentless retard and made it with sheer effort. That's why his methods are easy to understand.

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>>6887725
is a fucking male

>> No.6889923

>>6889921
stfu
she's a beautiful hapa
i want to adopt her

>> No.6889925

god this board is fucking retarded, do any of you dicklet coomer virgins actually draw?

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>>6889925
yes i do

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>>6889926
what did i expect you fags cant even draw a penis of sorts

>> No.6889959

>>6889925
>/ic/
>drawing
No.

>> No.6890031

>>6887198
Technically Ovopack, but he hasn't streamed or uploaded in 2 years. Same for KENTOO and Satoshi Matsuura.
As for people who have active accounts, probably M.Kamikuro or Norasuko.
Most of the people I watch are on Picarto, Twitch, or Piczel. I barely bother with Youtube.

>> No.6890036

>>6889933
Anon, I...

>> No.6890037

>>6887204
>he actually teaches you how to get into the animation industry
Why the fuck would you want to get into the animation industry?

>> No.6890103

>>6887448
>>6887779
>image for ants saved by phonenigger
There is no hope.

>> No.6890109

>>6889295
Monstergarden piqued my interest, but then I saw the video names "I built a magic system" or "I fixed my dwarves" or "I designed clothes for Verus" and gave up, kill all zoomzoom clickbaiters.

>> No.6890348

>>6887198
they're all grifters.

>> No.6890813

>>6887198
>>6887297
>>6887443
>>6888300
I want to cum inside her while she looks bored and draws.

>> No.6892096

>>6887256
proko's unironically the goat

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the greatest of all time right here according to anon
all-time
/ˈôlˌtīm/
adjective
unsurpassed.

>> No.6892165

>>6889752
I'll lick if your feet if you teach me how to draw

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>>6887198
I use to watch KNKL's stuff back when he made videos more regularly. I still go back and watch some of his older content. He did LoL splash art like 10 years ago. Reading about how it's made now vs then makes it seem like the strategy has changed drastically. He even talked about how it felt less and less like he was doing 'real' art.
In some of his last videos he was mentioning having some mental health issues. I hope he's doing better now

>> No.6892298

I like Marc Brunet, even if his videos are a bit on the confusing side sometimes.

>> No.6892870

>>6887198
The first thing I think of when I see this person is the desire to suck their toes.

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ina

>> No.6892920

I like Scott Christian Sava, and the one Norweigen faggot that does ink painting.

>> No.6892957

>>6892870
You can say ”her” you zoomer faggot

>> No.6892961

>>6887443
I don't even know or care who she is but I fucking hate simps man.

>> No.6893024

>>6892957
Hello Her

>> No.6893745

>>6887725
>hair hides 60% of the face
>Cute!
I hate simps more than whores

>> No.6893753

>>6892957
lol imagine getting offended by words

>> No.6893773

>>6892957
chud boiling

>> No.6893974

>>6887198
Marco Bucci, Trent Kaniuga, Proko.

>> No.6893978

>>6887198
>>6887443
>>6887725
>>6888300
Lmao. She's fugly af. Is she even a regular girl or is she trans? Fucking kek, I can't believe how low some people's standards are.

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>>6887198
Some time ago it was Ethan Becker, 'cause his teaching of not holding on to formulas from other artists was pretty great, and helps me to learn and develop my own style to this day. But as soon as he was showing his faggotry more (more or less after the Project City thing was announced), i decided to not see his shit anymore. Coincidentally it was almost at the same time i started to take a step back from youtube content in general in which envolves art, since it is mostly slop to sell courses.

>> No.6894023

>>6893978
stfu
she's literally perfect

>> No.6894026

>>6894023
You need to visit an optician.

>> No.6894036

>>6889491
Fuck off Rutten

>> No.6894061

>>6887778
I like your energy

>> No.6894180

>>6894023
anon gives a (you) to worst bait in history
asked to leave imageboard

>> No.6894418

>>6887495
when you think about it it kinda goes both ways, people put pussy on a pedestal but they also have a very narrow idea of what "woman" even looks like so whenever a girl doesnt dress up or present herself like what people expect a girl to be guys online go insane because it feels novel and relatable and in a way more reachable

>> No.6894435

>>6889926
minecraft..

>> No.6894440

>>6892173
man this was a blast to the past, where did he go?? his last video was 3 years ago and his instagram has 1 post every few months and he just talks about barely holding on, i hope he's alright

>> No.6894975

can anyone recommend me good videos of people doing digital art in real time while they tell what they're doing/explain their process as they go? also that aren't the same generic anime art and not lives from art streamers, the long pauses for chit-chat are very unhelpful.
i have already seen real-time painting with no commentary (like some rinotuna videos), speedpainting with commentary, but the real-time paintings with commentary are always from traditional painters which isn't my focus (plus half of the video is always them explaining how to mix pigment), as i wanna be better at digital art.

sorry if i sound like i'm asking too much, it's just that i never found anything like that

>> No.6896770

>>6887198
Her pussy must be super tight bros...

>> No.6896774

>>6887198
She looks like she only fucks whites

>> No.6896882

>>6893978
I agree with you but don't type more than one laughing acronym, it comes across as incredibly tryhard and you're a faggot if you continue down this path.

>> No.6897365

>>6896774
She's hapa, what do you think?

>> No.6897369

>>6896882
anon responds to worst bait on /ic/
asked to leave 4chan

>> No.6897386

>>6896882
Fair point. I'm glad I'm not the only non simp on this site.

>> No.6897432

I need......hapu puzzi....uuooooohhh

>> No.6897473

>>6897432
Get in line.

>> No.6897526

>>6889716
i don't believe it because then that means her father is a chang.

>> No.6897534

>>6897526
You must not be familiar with mixed race people using their non-white parent's last name for oppression points.

>> No.6897538

>>6897473
i can't wait......any longeUUUAAAAOOOOOOHHHHH!!!

>> No.6897565

>>6897534
if she's going to lie about her real last name, why even pretend to be half japanese with a chang dad? just use a japanese name. even full white weeaboo people do it.
rip kairo seijuro.

>> No.6897770

>>6897565
i don't think she pretends to be a jap, she just seems to be a weeb to some degree, and being a hapa regardless if her asian side is chinese may cause some level of confusion.

either way i NEED a hapa neet wife!!!

>> No.6897808

>>6894975
I struggle to think of any that don't also go on tangents talking about stuff unrelated to the work itself. I find most of the process is unconscious when you are in the flow, so it's hard to draw and explain at the same time. It's gonna be pretty rare to find useful commentary across an entire realtime painting, for free that is.

>> No.6898152

>>6896774
>She looks like she only fucks whites

She's a weeb, that I think lives in Japan I doubt it.

>> No.6898430

>>6898152
Canada

>> No.6898883
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>>6889628

>> No.6899263

>>6898430

Even still, weeb girls of any race tend to be obsessed with asian guys.

>> No.6899284

>>6898883
how is it tied to her?

>> No.6899288
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6899288

>>6890037
The GMI in NGMI is typically
>I'm good enough that people will pay me for this and I can make a living doing a thing I love

Animation is one of the better ways right now an artist can make it financially
>shows can run for a long time, unlike other entertainment options
>work pace is less murderous than films and games which typically have ultra-hard deadlines
>modern animation in LA and therefore American animation, is unionized, the union pay minimums typically BTFO non-union work (union pay's typically 60-100k), pays your health insurance, and advocates for you to get moved between productions instead of fired.
>Work is somewhat fulfilling - end result is a show you can watch
Pretty much the only better right right now is highly successful freelancer or art influencer

>> No.6899329

>>6899284
why are simps incapable of googling

>> No.6899354

>>6899329
i looked through the post history of this user and haven't found anything yet, any pointers

>> No.6899389

>>6899354
Ignore him, he's trying (and failing) at doing a little trolling

>> No.6899413

>>6899389
how dare he

>> No.6899515

>>6899354
>>6899389
ok even though im at work ill explain for you retards

google the username "itsamiizora"

see that it is her using context clues

see that user commented on r/traaans on a thread about being a tall girl

she is tall

connection

???

>> No.6899618

>>6899515
she might have deleted her reddit account
but it does show up in the google search
damn you got the good type of autism, alisa confirmed tranny

>> No.6899623

>>6887204
His art is awful, but he's an animator, so I guess it's OK. His backgrounds video was good, however.

>> No.6899626

>>6899618
Interesting, do normal not trannies use that reddit forum? Like as supporters?

>> No.6899628

>>6899626
i gotta investigate this more
hopefully it's just trannies on there, I love futas

>> No.6900086
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6900086

Alisa’s Reddit account its zora_art_diary they’re only posts and comments are art/modeling. Most of those comments link to their twitch “itsamiizora“, Instagram and email. Never posted anything related to trans or lgbt in general.

>> No.6900220

>>6893990
He used to make almost weekly videos with a unique comedy style, then he dropped his persona completely and stopped focusing on youtube, no real reason to follow him anymore

>> No.6900236
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>>6900086
her artstation nick is actually itsamiizora https://www.artstation.com/itsamiizora, that confirms it's a nickname she used to use, and by googling that nick you also find a deleted reddit account and a post on r/traaaaaaannnnnnnnnns, posted by a throwaway account and with a few replies by deleted account, so it's confirmed that on her old account she posted and browsed a trans subreddit, doesn't necessarily prove she's trans, even if it's weird and her appearance surely isn't that feminine. If >>6899618 can bring more clues, I'd believe him.

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>>6888300
weird looking as a guy. I think she is a real girl.

>> No.6900363

>>6900263
I know like five dudes that look like this.
That being said I find it hilarious that men in this thread can't fathom a girl not looking like their onlyfans darlings.

>> No.6900647

>>6887198
damn woman looks like she came from the steppes, that facial bones like it's built from years of tough meat diet.

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>>6900363
>t.

>> No.6900682

>>6900662
nice selfie

>> No.6900948

>>6900263
oh he's definitely a trans

>> No.6900974

>>6900948
she*, if it's a transgender individual.

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6901782

>>6900236
>>6899515
>>6898883
>>6900263
have we been swindled chungbros? what is our response?

>> No.6902134

>>6901782
I literally don't care. Still the perfect girl for me.

>> No.6902151

>>6901782
KAMI-SAMA
WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME, AGAIN
I WILL ALWAYS REFUSE TO BELIEVE THIS
but seriously, if she is,
still not swindled, pretty sure none of "alisa chung"s content has been "im a woman heres my authority on women"
people might say she led them on but "looking like an attractive woman" & "being a woman" arent the same, even for born females, who dont only get the right to be popular for "looking like an attractive woman" (guys can get popular for long hair, thin waists, wrists, etc, big butts, but nobody @s them for stealing women features) if someone has all the elements, cant say theres much wrong, if theyre not trying to make some statement about it
also, her recent popularity means to be reasonably cautious gaining a following before making any sort of reveal
desu, i think its the other way around
if she really is trans and was open about it, she'd probably get a ton of fans for that, communities would promote her
but shes based and actually uses her personality and content to get a fanbase instead.
response?
RE trans stuff:
if she reveals, yeah im guessing she'll probably gain new fans just for that, and could really lean into it and get sponsors down that avenue as well, but i dont think thats her. If she gets big there may be drama with a reveal. who knows.
shes funny and her approach, style and presentation really does catch peoples attention, like in this thread. Neet awareness is based but im not sure how marketable it can be for her- or if she wants to graduate from that aspect to grow her fanbase. She has a lot of interesting elements that are all kind of floating right now before landing into something concrete, market-wise. Sponsors probably look at her the same way. Currently seems shes a bit trapped within the realm of streamer limbo. But if chips begin to land, it may be a domino effect and give the full 'big youtuber' experience.
stay posted; im very interested to see where this is going, and latest developments

>> No.6902154 [DELETED] 

>>6901782
...true response?
watch her videos, you shit. grow her following, like comment and subscribe and send your thoughts and prayers, right now, you bastard, shes the only queen of the neets we have. so watch her youtube alisa_chung when shes live
cause shes funnier than you more productive more charismatic nicer faster better artist taller than you manlet katsuya terada pt 2 more asian than you weeb
gaze and behold in awe as she hones her mastery and develops the legendary power foretold from the bygone ages, that saves us all and truly sets us free
SHE IS THE BEACON LEADING US THROUGH THE ABOMINABLE BOGS OF NEET HELL
TAKE UP YOUR SWORD, AND BE THE MAN YOU HOPED TO BE, AND PROTECT THE QUEEN OF THE NEETS AT ALL COSTS

>> No.6902186

legitimately not reading all that

>> No.6902215

>>6901782
true response:
if you think she's funny, videos are interesting, etc, then watch her, you dont need anybody to tell you
this shouldn't change how you enjoy her content, not too much anyway

>> No.6904032

>>6900220
Yeah i was from this generation that likes this kind of silly humor, so i found it lots of fun, specially because i also found him when he didn't even had 20k subs, so it was a really special thing for me as stupid as it sounds.
But he was a sellout as almost everyone else. At least he seems to be putting a lot of effort on Project City, even if i don't give a fuck about that since he made that white guilt lecture on the same site that should just promote independent art.

>> No.6904489

>>6901782
all the evidence (reddit post, shared name across accounts, etc) points to her being... a troon...

oh well

>> No.6904577

Alisa Chung? More like A piece of dung!

>> No.6904621

>>6887198
AAAAHHH GODDAMMIT I AM SO LONELY AND HORNY AAAHHH AAAAHHHH

>> No.6904695

>>6904621
r u a neet

>> No.6904731

>>6900236
don't really know how reddit works, but could it be that she wasn't the one who made the post on being tall, but simply replied to the thread and that makes the thread show up when you search her username?

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6904755

>>6904731
its is a "traaaaaaannnnnnnnnns" subreddit
think of it like a trans board in 4chan
posting on it also means that you use it

>> No.6904763

The more I think about it, she actually could be trans. If this was ten years ago I'd be like no way, but if she started transitioning early that could even fix the voice thing.

>> No.6904769

>>6904731
unfortunately i do know how reddit works and i have pretty damning 'evidence'

but i mean..
its all pretty much useless if you dont hear an admission from the person themselves
after all, we're talking about 'identity' here...

...dont you think it is a bit contradictory to 'identify' yourself, the 'identity' that someone else 'identifies' as, without actually hearing them 'identify' as it?...
she could identify as a chinchilla for all we know, but she both looks and sounds like a woman, not sure what to tell you

>> No.6904824

not that anyone cares but now i have to ted talk alisa chung

before we examine what it means to be a female or male human we must first examine what it means to be a human

there are two important components to being human
identity and ego
without those things we'd just be strange biologic meat robots, no thought, no individual action.

identity is pretty strongly tied with every conscious thought a person makes
but why does the conscious thoughts vary so much between people? arriving at different likes, tastes, conclusions, interests, preferences...
what drives those conscious thoughts?
is this a subconscious thing, did someone program it, like a 'god'?
even so, that still means people have a component about them that they cant change, something that drives them from some internal subconscious

ego is the motivation for ones own actions to be actualized
anima is a term used to explain when the ego is influenced by a 'feminine' subconscious
animus refers to when its 'masculine' subconscious

so ultimately what it means:
despite whatever strange biologic meat robot you were born with that you didnt choose, you also were born with an anima or animus subconscious that you didnt choose

while there might be some variance in what a mans body looks like and a womans, and some crossover of various traits,
the subconscious is more detailed, so there's probably a lot of "animus" males who vary wildly in comparison with each other, same with anima amongst themselves as well

and while were at it, i mean if she transitioned before her body even became a 'man' then she never was a 'man'

>> No.6904844

>>6904755
yes, she used/posted on it at least once, but does it mean she was the one who posted about concern of being tall? could be a cis woman showing support since she is tall herself. maybe saw the thread on the side while on another sub and decided to chime in.

>> No.6904864

>>6904844
please forgive me for circumventing your question with one of my own:
what would you do with the information, if you did know: this 'itsamiizora' did in fact post on a reddit post that indicated she assumed a role of person who was trans?
because the 'maybe's wouldnt end there, since you could even say that maybe she was only role playing as trans, a bit odd, but as i said, regardless of what indirect confirmation you get, it wont be as concrete as direct confirmation from they themselves

>> No.6904932

>>6904824
who asked

>> No.6905301

>>6904755
aight alisa's now my favorite artist

>> No.6905396

>>6900236
>>6901782
Listen to her voice, there is no way she is a tranny unless she received puberty blockers at around age 10 which given her age range would be unlikely. Not impossible, but unlikely.
If she's posting on that shitty trans subreddit it would more likely mean she's had thoughts about being nonbinary or being a trans man as is very common with non-feminine women now.
I'd need to see more conclusive evidence but I am not buying it.
The other unlikely reason to her being a tranny is that we have to speculate about it, lol.

>> No.6905400

>>6898883
This was posted by u/throw-away-672 just to be clear, not the itsamiizora account.

>> No.6905403

>>6904864
in the first place, her using the sub at least once was not anything i denied. i was only asking because i didn't know how reddit works, but from what little i knew it could be a false lead. for example, looking up her username nets a thread that was not started by her.
i don't even know if the thread about being taller than the average male is in a t-sub, or even if she is indeed taller than the average male for that matter.

>> No.6905404

>>6905403
She didn't start the thread, all the google search shows is that account posted on it at some point. This is not enough evidence to imply she's a man.
You should all be more worried about her pulling an Ellen Page at some point. I've seen it happen time and time again.

>> No.6905415

>>6888357
Bruh.... women without makeup are basically short men with long hair. Don't believe me use? Use the makeup remover app in any female celeb.

>> No.6905421

It doesn't matter if she's a woman or a trans woman, she's ugly either way lol.

>> No.6905422

>>6904824
try to keep your autism at bay please.

>> No.6905437

>>6905396
>>6905404
>>6905403
>thoughts about being nonbinary or being a trans man as is very common with non-feminine women now.
>could be a false lead
>pulling an Ellen Page at some point

All valid points. Even with the most evidential 'proof' reddit has to offer, it still leaves just as much equal chance of 'itsamiizora' as a female expressing interest in transitioning to male.
With all that into consideration, it's clear the reddit avenue is a red herring.

That being said, even if Alisa did want to become a male, my initial points of it not mattering would still stand, her artwork and character would still largely be the same.
But that's virtue signaling- since I am interested in this aspect of her as well, if it is true. But unless she shares her own interest in it, I can only be so interested.
But in effort to get the thread back on track, yes, she is my favorite artist on youtube. Someone said her art is similar to Katsuya Terada's and I agree.

>> No.6905439

It doesn't matter if she's a woman or a trans woman, I'd ram her either way lol.

>> No.6905444
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>>6898883
BEEG girls are cute

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>>6905421
>>6893978

thats crazy cause part of the reason why i was so shocked about this was because shes legitimately in the top 10 hottest for me personally

like i was vexed by how hot, full simp mode,

people never seen tall women before?

some famous ones Tao Okamoto 1.77m Karen Gillan 1.8m Elizabeth Debicki 1.9m
Alessandra Ambrosio 1.77m

tall skinny might not be everyones type but anyone know anyone more like Alisa?
unfortunately theyre too rare

>> No.6905516

>>6905454
I think she's hot too but I like homely plain janes.

>> No.6905533

>>6905516
fair enough
also everyone in that picture are pretty plain without makeup so were in the same ground

>> No.6906548

>>6887373
hes one of the few i started to learn from. imitating his brushes and things to get a feel for the process. good times.

>> No.6906558

>one tranny mindbreaks all of /ic/
you love to see it

>> No.6907262

>>6906558
Her impact is impeccable

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>>6906558
>>6907262
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>> No.6907285

>>6907275
HAPA PUSSY HAPA PUSSY HAPA PUSSY HAPA PUSSY HAPA PUSSY HAPA PUSSY HAPA PUSSY HAPA PUSSY HAPA PUSSY HAPA PUSSY HAPA PUSSY HAPA PUSSY HAPA PUSSY HAPA PUSSY HAPA PUSSY HAPA PUSSY HAPA PUSSY HAPA PUSSY HAPA PUSSY HAPA PUSSY

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picrel, lack is pretty cool and goes live to draw/paint really often.

>>6893974
Trent also has some good industry related things.

>>6892920
I watched him for a bit. He's nice and all but I just find his art unappealing. It's way too randomly saturated for me.

>>6893990
Ethan's content felt like a waste of time to me unless you're really set on animation. I don't care about his personal life, and yeah I stopped watching him around the same time. Don't need to hear about how much he and Ross and dicking each other.

>>6887233
Gurney is the fucking man.

>>6889653
He's great.

>> No.6907298

>>6887198
I WANNA SNIFF HER ARMPITS SOOOOOO BAAAAADDD AAAHHHH

>> No.6907313

>>6907298
i wanna fuck her pits so bad bruv

>> No.6907328

>>6887636
The people here and on /co/ are delusional and probably never worked in tv. From my experience it's just a glorified office job with generally nice people.

>> No.6907334

>>6887942
I like the older coworkers in my gig jobs. They're always super nice and knowledgeable. Hope your friend is having a good time and found a show in these weird times

>> No.6907338

>>6887288
Which channels do you recommend, besides M. Bucci's?

>> No.6907356

>>6907298
>>6907313
I BET THEY LIKE CUMIN AND VINEGAR IM GOING TO THE STOOORRRREEE AAAAHH AAAAAAAHHH AAAHHHH

>> No.6907411

>>6907298
>>6907313
i wanna hold her hand

>> No.6907415

>>6907298
>>6907313
>>6907411
that was too far
sorry that was fucked up

>> No.6907418

>>6887942
she'll be out of job when she gets old and the older co workers and bosses no longer need an office eye candy

>> No.6907483

>>6907415
i want to fuck her hand

>> No.6907497

>>6907356
>>>/ck/19840763

no fucking way

>> No.6907502

HungryClicker, nobody else comes even close

>> No.6907512

>>6907502
You aren’t tired of seeing waist up Japanese character of the day yet?

>> No.6907518

>>6907483
i want to walk with her after class

>> No.6907521

>>6907483
>>6907518
alright jesus
alright i didnt mean to say that

i mean i want to go on a picnic with her in a nice park

>> No.6907525

>>6907521
OH FUCK HOW DO I DELETE THIS

>> No.6907528

>>6907525
>you cannot delete a post this old
You are done for. sick fuck.

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>>6907502
> Nobody else comes even close
eo58 though he is a twitch stream
he has more varieties of art style and composition
too bad he has some autism that stops him from posting art and restreams

>> No.6907539

>>6907534
I wish this dude had other social media or at least kept vids up somewhere. He streams at like the worst time for me.

>> No.6907544

>>6907528
See what I meant was, I would like to be walking somewhere and see her walking somewhere too, and she needs to walk around me and i need to walk around her so we both do that funny in-the-way shuffle dance for a bit then we laugh about it and I stop and gesture her to pass by and we both go our separate ways with smiles on our faces
NO
NO I CANT BE THINKING THIS

>> No.6907558

>>6907544
and i hold the door open for her
and give her my coat when it gets cold
like you wouldnt fucking believe

>> No.6907561

>>6907558
why don't you just fuck the woman anon

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>>6907561

>> No.6907572

>>6907558
>>6907561
>>6907567

i would carry her artbooks for her
ALL FUCKING DAY
okay im done, burning computer

>> No.6907595

>>6887204
cringe

>> No.6907737

>>6887198
I would cum on her face.

>> No.6907738

Is it me or she looks prettier without the eye bags

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https://archiveofsins.com/lgbt/thread/17609740/#17620778
AHAHAHA
ALISABROS ITS OVER NOOO

>> No.6907744

>>6907738
She looks great with them and without them

>> No.6907748

>>6907742
>thread has pictures using AI to make nude versions

Fuck, stay safe out there bros. Gonna get trannyd. Dating apps and social media are now even more worthless

>> No.6907751

>>6907748
Did you unironically just time travel from 2020 or were you always living under a rock.

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>>6907742
Trannies... I was fooled...

>> No.6907828

>>6887198
Is this a chick? She looks like her son just died.

>> No.6907829

>>6907828
she's the cutest art women in the world stfu

>> No.6907832

>>6907828
She's a man, baby!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNOFk7EISoM
Check out all that neck action.

>> No.6907835

>>6907742
how do people even find out shit like this
how do we even know if it is the same guy?

>> No.6907839

>>6907832
she so beautiful

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>>6907742
I knew there was something off

>> No.6907846

>>6907742
Still hitting it

>> No.6907849

>>6907829
Ok but what about the grieving face?

>> No.6907851

>>6907849
she just does that sometimes
shes got a little autism

>> No.6907853

>>6907851
>she

>> No.6907856

>>6907853
she cute
I want to hold her hand

>> No.6907857

>>6907856
>she
>her

>> No.6907858

>>6907742
wow that is some deep digging anon
i would even more now

>> No.6907859
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>>6907832
kek xhe sure was convincing

>> No.6907862

>>6907856
Your damage control is working less and less, Alisa-kun

>> No.6907865

>>6907862
i just love alisa
cause she is a very beautiful XX chromosome woman

>> No.6907872

>>6907865
>woman

>> No.6907878
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>>6907742
>>6907832
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

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That's a man, baby kek. You can instantly tell by the voice, and I've never seen this youtuber

>> No.6907884

>>6907742
TOP KEK

>> No.6907896

>>6907883
>t-that's a man kek, thank god nobody can tell i posted in the thread earlier about how i would pound her pussy into oblivion

>> No.6907905

>>6907742
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.6907919
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>>6907742
https://archiveofsins.com/lgbt/search/username/zora/
WHERE WERE YOU WHEN ALISA WAS REDPILLED ON THE JEWISH QUESTION

>> No.6907921

>>6907919
Kek she's probably reading this thread right now

>> No.6907923

Alisa we love u
U are great artist

>> No.6907925

>>6907919
Twitter would tear him a new one if the wrong person found out

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>>6907832

Women can have noticeable adams apples too. I thought you guys were artists, you don't study the human form?

>> No.6907946

>>6907945
You're responding to bait.

>> No.6907953

>>6907742

Still dubious. Every other troon's picture is a selfie while hers(?) is clearly taken from a live stream screenshot. Also "I probably don't pass"? sounds very trolly.

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>>6907742
>>6907802
>>6907832
>>6907840
>>6907853
>>6907857
>>6907858
>>6907859
>>6907862
>>6907872
>>6907878
>>6907879
>>6907881
>>6907883
>>6907884
>>6907896
>>6907905
>>6907919
>>6907921
>>6907925

im going full white knight neckbeard


do not besmirch my ladys honour, do so not be such foul knaves,


she is a fair maiden


she is more woman than you will ever dare be a man

do not let infernal weakness cloud your judgment

look to her accomplishments and strength in awe and admiration
and be inspired just as i am inspired

the strength of her heart will fuel my soul and guide me to unknown reaches of a better life ahead

let her light do the same for you

for she is true beauty, the kind you seldom see

so i will forgive you for not immediately recognizing that, because we are so unfamiliar to seeing it

but i beseech you it is all real,

so follow her and let her help you guide yourself, and strengthen thine blackened spirit

>> No.6907959

>>6907945

Your example isn't a feminine woman at all though. On 99.9% of women, the adam's apple is not visible.

>> No.6907974

>>6907959

Doesn't matter if she's a "feminine" woman, whatever that means, she's a biological one and I can give you tons more examples.

>> No.6907977

those links could be anybody trolling her, keep in mind
maybe someone closer to her at the time or knew of her
plus theres some years missing, the last was in 2021, so its been a while, theres not been anything consistant

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>>6907959

>> No.6907981

>>6907977
You are coping. You'll come to grips sooner or later, and when you do, we'll forgive you.

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>>6907979

Must be one of those fake baby harnesses.

>> No.6907987

>>6907953
>>6907977
No, her posting in /lgbt/ under "zora" and her reddit account itsamiizora showing up in trans subreddits is enough corroborative evidence for her being a transexual. Also, she doesn't look like a woman, her body is unfeminine.

>> No.6907995

Where is the proof that "itsamiizora" is actually her? None of her social media has any reference to the name "zora".

>> No.6907997

>>6907995
>>6900236

>> No.6908007

Nigga that's nuts actually. Good thing I cringed from his content anyway

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>>/ic/thread/5075012#p5080614

A certain "Zora" posted on /ic/ too, and is apparently Canadian.

>> No.6908023

Inconclusive all we have to go off of is that she made a post on a trans forum allegedly. She doesn't look like a dude nor sound like one. Yeah she's lacking in T&A but newsflash, she's asian or half, it's par for the course.

>> No.6908035

>>6908023
You are coping.

>> No.6908036

>>6907981
>>6907987
>>6907997
i appreciate the forgiveness, but:

trying to manufacture this angle-

this narrative of, zora, itsamiizora, and alica chung are all the same person,
including all the posts under those aliases are the same person,

has a believable reason to be a manufactured lie:

taking a look at this thread as an example,
people seem to be having a fun with carrying on a role of surprise and overreaction

so doesnt that mean there's incentive to reach that outcome?

ergo, doesnt that mean theres incentive to manufacture a lie to reach that outcome?

this could still be the work of someone trying to frame her in a way that produces the reaction you are seeing here in this thread

like I said before, if you are truly interested in her as she dictates so, then watch her and observe her as she is

but if youre interested in believing in a possible lie just to be over-reactionary and/or outraged,
then just remember you will only remain in a place where everything still remains speculation and kind of empty

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Only way I could see her being a dude is if she got her dick cut off and started transitioning as an adolescent. But that would have to have been before being a troon became fashionable.

But she livestreams some anon should superchat her asking if she's trans on the next one and see how she responds.

>> No.6908038

daily reminder to ignore this essayposting retard

>> No.6908051

>>6907919 I’m impressed

>> No.6908052

>>6907742
>>6907919
>>6908013
>>6908037
>>6908038


anything to do with her just makes me appreciate her more, honestly

now i see she actually started from the depths, improved her art, improved herself,
my only regret is that I cant keep seeing how she grew to where she is now
it wouldve been nice to help her when she was looking for critique then,
because now, I have no critique for her art, except to see more of it

she improved herself,

and yet look at all of everyone on those boards and in this thread,
still surrounding ourselves in adopted disdain and learned pettiness

if anything this is exact evidence of what real, actual improvement looks like

you can actually learn from her

>> No.6908090

Who cares honestly.
She's still cute, even if she can looks like a goblin on some angles.

>> No.6908096

>>6908037
>But that would have to have been before being a troon became fashionable.
the guy is like 18-20

>> No.6908110

>>6908037
>that throat bulge
it's over

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>> No.6908234

>>6907742
holy shit

>> No.6908263

>>6907919
>>6907925

unless there’s video,
photos and usernames dont hold up

4chan is not a reputable source to anybody outside of it, things dont really take off here unless its beyond all reasonable doubt

those threads and even this thread seems like theres an element of trolling between some ingroup of friends.
Anyone could be behind this, part of the appeal in posting shock things in the first place.
a large part is probably just some kids testing out how edgy they can be

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>>6907919
near-disbelievingly based

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>>6907742

she was the perfect girl,
then you go and show me something like this...
...and tell me SHES EVEN MORE PERFECT

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>>6887198

queen of neets thread

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>>6887198

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>>6907742
>>6907919
>>6908013

the only real disappointment is that Alisa senpai graduated from 4chan without us

>> No.6908325

>>6907572
even in with my embarrassing family embarrassing me in public
if i saw her, i would stop and say hello

>> No.6908327

>>6908314
I WOULD.
TELL HER.
HER HAIR.
LOOKS.
PRETTY.

>> No.6908330

>>6908327
SHE CAN TAKE
MY LAST
FRENCH FRY

the police are at my door

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>>6908317

>> No.6908454

>>6908263
Photos from 2020 would hold up. Several selfies, lewds, etc, with her face and same clothes/backgrounds. Plus her paintings that she posted on /ic/ years ago are on her old artstation.

It's confirmed anon, it's fine though. I don't think it needs to be a witchhunt or doxx attempt, she's just someone who wants to get better at art like the rest of us. This is why using unique usernames is bad though,

>read philmarilion

>> No.6908535

>>6887198
>>6908454
>I don't think it needs to be a witchhunt or doxx attempt, she's just someone who wants to get better at art like the rest of us

yeah I agree
I was in defense mode. Spent too much time in really parasocial circles online; brings your mind to the extreme in cases
celebrities, super rich, all about the money, followers, views

But it seems Alisa Chung is different, she's not like that, theres no need to look at it the same way.
Im only starting to see that now, Im a bit late to the party, I jumped in only at this time

Shes an actual Artist. Its not usual to see- Her struggles to resist conforming and get better at her art like you said. It makes me wish I couldve held onto the same mentality- why im trying to protect it. But thats me projecting, she seems fine in her own shoes

It's a nice thing, where your art and making art is a legitimate course of life. Instead of success deemed by money, clout.

And Canada really is like that too, success is a club you dont get in unless they want you to. Canada is shit, there is no constitution, however great canadas supposed democracy is, look in the law enough and youll see its literally run and own by one guy. the king. of Britain. That dynamic trickles down in all areas. It's completely who-you-know. Im no artist but its seriously bad. Grimes and Drake get all the grant money. That kind of thing.

ill admit Ive been idling along consuming the trash of "money, clout, who-you-know matters most" It did me no good and I have nothing to show for it. When I think about living like a true artist and not conforming, it seems like the who-you-know shit is whats really parasocial.

This thread is supposed to be about Artists, supposed to be about her. Sorry I couldnt help reflecting on my own self.

Trying to conform to other people's standards and opinions is just such a waste of time and life.

From here on, I can only better keep not giving a shit, and live life how I actually want- like her.

>> No.6908547

>>6908454
>>6887198

ill say it again

shes awesome and the more i hear about her the better she gets

queen of the neets for a reason; fuck trying to do things for likes, influence

and try not and give a fuck as much as her, i bet you cant
i ended up slacking on not giving a fuck, in the end i gave a fuck, what an embarrassment, disgrace

but ill keep trying though
i do like what she does and how she lives, I hope people can see it the same way im looking at it

>> No.6908594

>>6908038
>writting paragraph after paragraph simping for an attention whore namefag tranny who posts selfies and gaming/meme more than art
kek, is this some kind of psyop

>> No.6908626

>>6908594
>>writting paragraph after paragraph simping for an attention whore namefag tranny who posts selfies and gaming/meme more than art

just let me simp cmon

>> No.6908645

>>6887198
>>6908594

so many obvious trolls in the thread

how i could fall for the bait is so stupid

>> No.6908675

>>6887198
>>6908645
actually not stupid,
i stand by what i said

im turning this thread into my own personal blog, though, whens the new one

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>>6907742
>>6907919
I don't know what to do anymore anons.

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>>6908689

>> No.6908924

>>6908313
She is unironically so pretty

>> No.6908966

>>6908924
>she

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>>6908924

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>>6908966

>> No.6909020

Is she full asian or hapa?
She's quite attractive

>> No.6909030

>>6909020
He's hapa, only asian genes can somewhat "pass" after all.

>> No.6909034

>>6909020
3/4 asian

>> No.6909037

>>6908985
I want to adopt her

>> No.6909050

>>6908317
She had a breakdown?

>>6909034
How does that work?

>> No.6909088

>>6909050
>How does that work?
one asian parent and another half-asian

>> No.6909092

>>6909050
yeah from 4chan finding out
it was pretty bad
youtu be/WGA2k-VJvSE?t=18762

>> No.6909110

>>6909092
What was in there

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>>6887198
>>6909020

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>>6909037

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>>6909030

>> No.6909122

>>6909110
it went ape

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>>6909110
>>6887198

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>>6887198

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>>6887198
>>6909037
>>6908924
>>6908626
>>6908090
>>6907846
>>6907829
>>6907744
>>6907483
>>6907411

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>>6909088

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>>6887198

>> No.6909207

>>6909126
>>6909146
>>6909148
she is literally the fuking cutest person ever
I want to marry the neet pls

>> No.6909232

>>6909129
i am an 11 rn

>> No.6909238

gooning to this thread atm

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>>6909232
>not 12

>> No.6909260

>>6909238
not kink shaming but yeah im out

>> No.6909272

>>6909238
that makes two of us

>> No.6909305

>>6909240
i want to impregnate her throat

>> No.6909324

>>6909129
Rolling

>> No.6909581

>>6909146
>>6909148
>>6909240
>>6909129
>>6909126
>>6909125
>>6909121
>>6909116
>>6909114
>>6908985
>>6908983
unironically a 10/10

>> No.6909619

>>6907742
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!! (you pass well alisa)

>> No.6909630

>>6887198
impregnate!

>> No.6910016

>>6887198
>Who's your favorite youtube artist
chris chan goon thread when

>> No.6910151

>>6888357
just wait till you realize most women have imperfections. life isn't like porn anon