/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

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>>6878685
fatty

Report and ignore AI threads. Do not fall for the bait. If you're not an autistic beg you'll heed these words.

>>6878696
I suppose technically its bot traffic
but AI is infecting other sites i use. artstation is essentially on it's knees giving the robot a sloppy toppy
I mean empty internet theory may become reality with the ai you can use

An AI thread a day keeps the gains away.

>>6878674

Here is an idea. Try to make something the AI can hardly replicate, become good at it.

Redditor, small-brain thread.
At this rate you will never understand art or what being an artist means. You are soulless and a faggot.

I bet you're one of those retards that photoshops "DO NOT STEAL" on your shitty toddler crayon drawing.
Disgusting.

I really don't think you'll be "replaced" by AI as an artist, in that the likelihood of anybody happening to generate something exactly like how you'd draw it are near zero. So in that sense, as long as you don't become a slave who "just uses it for reference bro," your pieces will still be unique.
The problem is that it will result in the internet being flooded with flashy images to the point that it will cause extreme burnout. Yeah your art might be unique, but it will get absolutely flooded out by an endless sea of AIfags proompting shit left and right, some of them maybe even using your artwork to create their knockoff slop at a rate you could never compete with.

>>6878884
Ideas? I would like to attempt this. I'll test ai against your ideas too.

>>6878910
A hand floating in an empty space with a transparent cube encasing the hand

>>6878890
I bet you are the type of nigger to claim that splotches of paint in ambiguous shapes represent something.

>>6878909
this is the sort of stuff that keeps me up at night. I suppose if nothing else I can appreciate my art just as it is. and i know through anything i will continue to make art for fun.

>>6878674

GenAI is a magnet for losers.

>>6878884
I did this with hands last year but the new bing one can make hands really well. I feel like it will catch up to anything I focus on within a year or two. Whats the fucking point

>>6878912
Forgot about this thread. So, idk if this is what you had in mind, but it seems like ai can do it, if a little off in places. Not something I would be banking on to keep my work untrainable.

>>6879140
be more random. Glue grass to your drawing for green hair one day. And another day, attract ants with honey to make a line drawing. Keep up the novelty...
I just want to draw though. This game is dumb...

I tried to throw it off by asking it to make fingers spell the word "god". It trollede good.
I was thinking gang sign like bloods tho.

>>6879153
What the fuck are you talking about? Glue ants and grass to paper? Are you having a stroke?

>>6879154
Good God lmao

>>6879159
This thread asked for ways toake art that ai can't copy... I'm throwing out ways to do that, not suggesting you do those of course, but in that vein, think outside the box.
Like here, I've found ai can't do novel gang signs.

>>6879162
Eughhh!!!

>>6879165
Got some pretty kino results desu

>>6879167
Shit. 2 more weeks lads. Now feet spelling words...

>>6879169
Absolutely kino

I think comic is the way. Absolutely hideous trash like Magical Girl Tsubame: I Will (Not) Save The World! gets published by Shueisha, you can do it too!

>>6878674
It's okay to steal art from Nazis.

Reminder that this is how AI art actually works

>>6879188
you'll summon the autist trpfg

>>6879154
So is god Ukrainian then
>I thought everyone knew he was serbian

>>6878674
>stolen
i guess AI "stole" all that skill.

>>6879344
AI is like a thief in the night. You must be ready, for AI is coming at an hour you do not expect.

>>6879147
AI needs to draw 1,000 boxes before attempting this again.

>>6879344
And there he is
Kill yourself

>>6879448
we all know how this gonna go... autism do be powerful

>>6879330
>tryzub salute
never seen this shit in my life, it's completely made up

>>6878674
AI schizo is here with the new personality
kys

>>6879184
how hard have they nerfed this shit, death to the corpo nanny state

>>6879169
It won't let you do anything with feet.

>>6880033
/v/ and /g/ are seething hard rn. their new toy got taken away taken away because /pol/ played with it too hard.

>>6878910
AI can't:

Draw complex scenes, like a bar where people interact organically with each other, one person spilling a drink on an angry looking girl

Can't draw good comics with fight scenes and alot of going on.

Can't draw line art
Can't create believable fantasy architecture (Don't really know about that one)

>>6880033
>>6880064
>>6880661
AI also can't do porn and antiestsblishment propaganda thereby making it useless for anything but grubhub ads.

>>6880661
>Draw complex scenes, like a bar where people interact organically with each other, one person spilling a drink on an angry looking girl
Sounds to me like only an issue of time and training. Last iteration of AI wasn't able to compose words and now it sort of can with a few mistakes like duplicated letters.
>Can't draw good comics with fight scenes and alot of going on.
Again, the problem with lack of training. If the model was tuned more towards comic books it would be easier to crank out strips that made sense.
>Can't draw line art
False. Bing can do that and the result is quite cute. Pic related. Sadly it doesn't know what "chicken scratch" is. Most likely because the images the model was fed weren't categorized with that keyword.
>>6880671
It can do those, but the devs introduce filtering so controversial topics like the ones you mention don't get generated. I expect companies to introduce some form of licensing for artists that would permit less strict filtering.
Other than that, companies and people who self publish will probably use and pay for the technology as even at this state it still looks better than beg artists that look for commisions. There will be lots of generated art that looks clumsy but the people paying and those who view it will accept it as such. For publishers operating on shoe string budgets this is just another way to save money.
Companies and people that need precise professional work that doesn't make clumsy mistakes will continue to use services of professional artists, until the models catch up.
>>6878910
AI can't do impasto. Go traditional, go real, stop looking at the screen.

stfu tripfag

AI art is annoying to deal with because you have to feed it information that the AI has to try to interpret and trying to make edits can fuck with the whole image, meanwhile talking with an artist is (usually) a lot more easy and manageable.

Case in point, generated this for a new D&D character, fucking AI gave him pubes and I want as little lewd as possible (despite him being a tribal/barely clothed character). Been wasting so much time trying to fix this one issue and it's pissing me off.

Unrelated, anyone able to edit images and can remove the pubes on this image? kek

>>6878674
Fuck Griffith

>>6880957
As a nonfurry this doesnt even read as pubes to me, if you hadnt said anything I wouldn't even have noticed. If the people you play with are furries they are probably gonna notice tho

>>6880965
That makes me feel better, then. The people I play with are long time friends and I know they're going to rip on me for anything even slightly furrybait/fetishized, so I know they will notice it.

They already groaned when I said the character was barely clothed (there's an important mechanical reason for that), so...

>>6878674
Ai doesn’t take away shit from traditional artists. People always value human made stuff even when there are cheaper/more convenient alternatives.

>>6878674
Unironically, I am very pro-AI "art" when it comes to artists experimenting with creativity and people just having fun creating stupid, funny images. Not to mention I think the appeals to repressive copyright laws are myopic.

However, don't be a fucking poser and call yourself an artist when all you do is type a prompt that rips off another artist's style. I've seen multiple people on /v/ Dall-E threads refuse to share prompts with anons who asked because they act like it's some super secret personal skill to type a fuck one paragraph description.

>>6880976
The hilarious thing is, I think (not 100% sure) if you use stable diffusions you can just take a picture and shove it into the generator to get the prompts that were used back. SD is vastly superior to Dall-E anyways.

>>6880936
Hey trip fag wheres that one piece panel that came up in a different thread
I really like to know if we could make "nearly" make one piece book 1 pg 1 on the "training data"
>than do pgs 2-216
>and any latest chapters of any manga getting uploaded

>>6880990
Yes you can do that, even funnier is that a bunch of AIniggers scrub this feature from their "creations" so people don't steal their precious prompts

>>6880990
Anything claiming to reverse a prompt is either reading the metadata, which usually includes the prompt but can be stripped off at will, or it's just attempting image recognition and you could feed it the mona lisa and it would guess 'woman, smiling,' etc.

That said, yeah. 'Prompt engineers' trying to guard their secret invocation to the machine spirit are idiots. Nobody's prompts are that special and it all becomes obsolete every 3 months. Bing's new AI doesn't even require prompts like that, you can talk to it like it's the ship's computer from star trek, it feeds your input to chat-gpt and chat-gpt creates the prompt.

>>6880661
all of these are assuming single shot approaches.
meaning you prompt it once and expect that to be your final outcome.

it's no wonder you can't think of AI as a tool if you can only think of AI like this.
otherwise it can do all of those except for comics, where no matter what you'll have to do the panels and speech bubbles manually, along with other challenges.

>>6881002
i'm the tripfag.
link the post. i have no idea what you're talking about.

stfu

>>6880990
>>6881003
the prompt is saved as metadata in the initial output so it can be saved and shared more easily.
this is not reverse engineering anything. the full prompt is saved as text inside the metadata if you want it to.

SD does have a function that tries to get a prompt out of every image, but it won't get you the SD prompt back. it's a more general tool that tries to describe an image using CLIP.

stfu nigger

>>6880936
Hello

6881142
>tripfag being a c(You)m slut for the 50th time

>>6878674
welcome to capitalism.

>>6880971
I'd say the fact that he's completely shirtless with a ripped body is a bigger tell...

>>6879330
turkey goes kon kon

admit it, AI art is now so soulful that makes you wish it was real

>>6880661
>Can't draw line art

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>>6880661
>AI can't:
>Draw face (solved)
>Draw fingers (solved)
>Write alphabets (solved)
(You are here)
>Draw complex scenes, like a bar where people interact organically with each other, one person spilling a drink on an angry looking girl
>Can't draw good comics with fight scenes and alot of going on.
>Can't draw line art
>Can't create believable fantasy architecture (Don't really know about that one)

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>>6883339
Prompt me One Piece volume 1 pg 1 and then do pages 2-216 then I'll be impressed

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>>6883339
>if I say it's solved it means it is
You haven't progressed past the first check box.

>>6878674
There isn't a gun to you head, jeez. If you have to use it, it will only be in work settings, and even then it's likely you'll only use it in the beginning stages or something.

People still bake even though you can easily and cheaply buy any type of cake you want at the local grocers, so why would people stop drawing completely? There's something to drawing and creating your own art that having a computer shit out a proompted image can't compete with.

>>6883403
Speak for yourself

>>6880671
Nigga......

>>>/h/hdg
>>>/e/sdg
>>>/d/nai
>>>/g/sdg
>>>/x/succgen
>>>/vt/vtai
>>>/aco/sdg
>>>/trash/sdg
>>>/r9k/aiwg
>>>/b/AI DEGENERATED ART AND PORN

Your stupid is showing

>>6883743
>>6883737
Jump off a bridge.
Can't wait for shitters on this website to treat the cancer the same way they did ponies

>>6883750
You first you lazy child. It's always the people that do little if ANY drawing that act like women at the salem witch trials. The relevant, talented artists that actually matter, with a few loud mouthed exceptions, don't care about AI art all so why should you? Because it's an excuse for you to not fry into not improve your own style and art.

>>6883754
>it's an excuse for you to not fry into not improve your own style and art.
I don't even think this qualifies as esl

>>6883760
In other words, you're the artist equivalent of a guy who sees and in shape dude at the gym and goes "welp I guess my health isn't that important. It pointless. I will continue to be a fattass out of jealousy and shame." You won't improve because you are lazy

>>6883767
I genuinely have no idea what you're even talking about.

>>6883769
Then you're an even bigger ESL that'll never improve on anything

>>6883754
>The relevant, talented artists that actually matter, with a few loud mouthed exceptions, don't care about AI art

I guarantee 99% hate it and see it as the poison it is, even if they've never mentioned it publicly. ANYONE that actually gives a shit about art and doesn't want it dismantled into a state of soulless nihilism care very much about the topic and find AI vile. The online art scene is far worse for it's existence. You can't even look at random art on the internet anymore without suspicion. Actual cancer.

>>6883743
You know nigga anything this shows me you niggas need your own board.
If you 10 fucking generals up that prob reach bump limit in like barely a few hrs how is that not considered spam.

>you niggas also Dalle-3 generals on /g/ that are the same image dumps as /sdg/ stuff

/g/ Dall-e threads including /sdg/ that's like 4 threads there entirely dedicated to image dumping

>>6883805
all that slopah to fry dopamine receptors

>>6883499
>you can still draw for fun

Stop with this stupid cope. And stop being a stupid sheep for once..

>>6883778
Perhaps one positive is that it will make artists aware of that cancer called social networks. I know artists need promotion but social media was a mistake.

>>6883797
Tell that to the nigga that runs this site, nigga. They've been begging to have their own board since December of last year But I guess that's too much work for the janny niggas

>>6883833
>grid one
Same could be said for anyone that has ever made fan art of anything ever. If the corporations have their way they could sue you for drawing a fancy doodle of Mickey mouse. Disney was almost able to sue the family of a child for humming a Disney song. No actual Disney music in the background. No license music whatsoever. An INFANT was coming the goddamn tune and apparently that was enough for them to get sued and to get the video DMCAed temporarily. You are arguing for the increase of corporate grade because of your own mediocrity and insecurity.

>grid 2
The cat's out of the bag so that's impossible to do now. The binary files responsible for the model do not contain the actual images themselves or else the models would be several terabytes if not petabytes in size.... each. You'd have to invent An entirely new compression method by making a deal with the devil himself in order for that to be possible.

>grid 3
The people who pay for AI art (who are idiots because why can't you just do that shit yourself?) Were never going to pay you no different from piracy. The people that pirate games, TV shows, anime, books, were Not going to pay you. AI art did not take business from any of you. Only jobless histrionic fools claim otherwise. AI art is a scapegoat for their own lack of skill, marketing, connections, talent, patience, etc. The actual talented artists here have been telling you guys for ages that you should be more concerned with for finding your own art style than popularity or getting credit or getting those sweet sweet updoots or whatever.

>grid 4
>muh fingers
That issue has been solved for months. Stop using shit models or shit AI art apps or shit services like mid journey.

>>6883778
>Overdramatic_wall_of_text.txt

>>6883844
>>6883778
>>6883778
>doesn't want it dismantled into a state of soulless nihilism
How does computers do in advanced calculus = "Soulless nihilism"? Exact and funny how self-important and self-righteous people like you are. You know the public does not give a shit about any you guys or AI art or art in general right? How empty does your life have to be to attach such importance to your own subjective opinions and interpretation of shit that doesn't actually hurt anyone (that matters)? You deserve to be ridiculed, spat on, and shamed as the pretentious losers you are. You are not special. I am not special. None of us ever were. You want to feel important But you never will be

>>6883844
you talk about talented artists like you are one of them. Just by watching the images you post as examples of "art" I know you never took a pencil.

>>6883848
>you talk about talented artists like you are one of them.
You very obviously aren't one either.

>>6883850
No, Im not.

>>6883853
So your input and your opinion is no more or less valuable than mine.

>>6883858
But I don't talk about the arstists-tiers and how the top dogs don't "care about AI" or how this affects their rights.
also Do some research, most of them are bothered by this thing.

>>6883866
>how the top dogs don't "care about AI"
They may care as in their knowledgeable about it, but they don't constantly seeth with rage and envy every five fucking seconds. You make these AI Doom cope threads every 5 minutes I've been wonder why people get annoyed with your constant crying. Either you get better at your own art and improve or you won't. Stop using other people or other tools as a scapegoat for your own inaction. You admittedly suck (assuming you even draw), So why not like, I don't know, do something productive with all that negative energy you have and improve on it? What does this constant self-induced dread Even accomplished? Nothing because you like being in a bad mood. You like being miserable.

>>6883873
But I'm in a good mood.

>>6883877
>pic
What am I looking at?

>>6878674

>>6883778
>You can't even look at random art on the internet anymore without suspicion.
the most annoying thing to me is trying to find references now on google. 99% of the first like 50 results for any given thing are just
[thing you googled generated by ai]

>>6883945
hehehehe
pretty picture good
it looks so pretty for 1 second while I scroll past it on my twitter feed, I'll leave it a like and keep going so I can see more pretty picture

>>6883970
ungoogle your life
there are other engines. Just don't use bing either.

>>6883873
how many layers of false flagging are you on?

>>6883945
what's this?

>>6884021
trash

>>6883984
I just add
>before:2022
to my searches now.

>>6878674
https://youtu.be/gxN0fzuRX0g?t=91

i've been living in a bubble for years training to be an illustrator and just coming around to seeing what ai is up to these days...
not feeling great about the future of this industry, wondering how many people have already lost their jobs to this and it's just started

>>6883945
Fuck that's actually really cool

>>6884229
>the future of this industry,
All industries will face massive changes in the coming years. On a scale and speed humanity has never had to deal with before. Earning a living doing what you enjoy is going away for everyone doing intellectual labor due to ai. Brilliant. Thanks kikerosoft.

>>6884291

The future is AI! The future is prompting 12 hours a day for sub minimum wage in a globalist regime that monitors and censors everything with AI! The future is eating AI optimized synthetic foods! The future is AI engineered vaccinations! The future is AI CEOs, AI marketers, AI store clerks, AI cars, AI governments, AI military drones that murder everyone who doesn't like AI, AI designed and manufactured clothing, AI art, AI movies, AI music, AI porn stars, AI youtubers, AI chatbots on every board in every corner of the internet! Finally, mankind is liberated from the nightmare of work! All we have to do now is sit on our asses and take AI engineered SSRIs to trick our brains into thinking we're happy and play AI generated games and fuck AI generated girlfriends and tell our AI psychiatrist our woes! When our brains can't handle it anymore, we'll chop pieces out and have AI parts installed directly so that our very consciousness is owned by AI companies run by AI staff! AI economic regulation, AI doctors, AI pets wowie! Technological progress has finall freed man from his suffering and lack of meaning, forever will we play among the stars! The future is bright! Brighter than a thousand suns, brighter than furnaces of hell, brighter and hotter than any of us can even possibly imagine!

>>6884312

And let us not forget that the human race is like an alcoholic with a barrel of wine.

>>6884312
nah the future is automated with AI being driven by social media engagement statistics instead of your retarded idea of someone being paid to sit on a computer

>>6884317

You're right, sorry I was being too optimistic

>>6884317
This is the engagement I hear when you say that

the more you engage with AI post bullshit, the less time you are drawing

>>6878674
>be me
>pay artists to do art
>they dont do the art
>they take extra time to do the art
>they refuse to do my art
>they then complain about AI replacing them
>my art:
>a fucking pony OC with no fetishes whatsoever.
granted right now the main problem is finding a fucking 3d artist, but even among 2d I took a solid year to find anyone at all. Even among 2d I still get stood up by pixel artists and russian artists because theyre 19 year old girls.
> I don't want to be replaced by AI, I hate it
Then just like, draw art.

>>6880661

after giving this a go I conclude the opposite. This is NOT something that works the way you think it does. AI actually excels at complexity. I think it's because complexity is more like a fractile. Where AI struggles seems to align with my experiance getting it to produce Armor. Namely; I cannot get it to produce armor that is simple. It's always embellished, Always beautiful, always super detailed.

Likewise getting a scene with a bunch of people partying is easy. where it struggles is being told to not add so many people, it straight up ignores you if you try.

Lastly the forced diversity issue comes up with anachronisms like a bunch of muslims getting shitfaced

>>6878674
post your work.

>>6884678
That's what you get for hiring teenagers on deviantart

>>6884703
Twitter. Deviant art is actually a good source but unfortunately no one uses it anymore so you have to track down the artists through a chain of social foreign media sites. I got permission to use someones work freely that way, as well as some initial concept art, and some addiitional contacts. It's just over. Twitter is now the only game in town. Anons in /ic/ and /3/ just seeth, they don't want to draw for money. They don't want to draw anything that isn't what they want to draw. well good for you, I understand how you feel, but I am a wage slave doing menial labor for FAGMAN.

I'm not blowing money for you to draw your own IP.

>>6884678
now did you approach an artist that is known to draw ponies well and regularly does OC stuff? or is this a "I asked this guy who draws nothing but monster trucks to draw me a giraffe" thing?

>>6884739
I want to combine styles so I generally seek out pony artists who draw in different styles, sometimes this works, but most of the time I got told no. I do have a pony artist who draws ponies now, but I had no choice but to branch out to anime and russian artists who barely speak english. back then the sanctions cut my payment off and I was unable to continue with one artist because of it. I tried contacting another russian artist on twitter now that things are more relaxed but she is more or less ghosting me. I aim to do larger projects after all.

My current artist is great but unfortunately her output is limited thanks to her living conditions being similar to mine (beholden to a whiney elder) I really couldn't rely on her to take on an AI assisted animation project. Maybe we can do it after she's done doing the design work for the races.

As for the 3d. The hard part is finding comissionable 3d artists whos portfolio actually matches what I am looking for. Its a lot harder to search than 2d art to the point that I'm not sure what to do. Pixel artists I think are covered. the two I have in my back pocket, as long as they remain available, should work.

AI is not as cheap as people think it is. I probably spend 70-80 dollars on AI a month I rarely have time to use. 10-20 dollars just looking up artists via patreon connections and twitter, and I could easily replace the AI assistance with a dedicated artist of some stripe or color a month. But that's not what people want to do. They want to be paid to work on their own hobbies. I know because that's what I want. The difference is I'm willing to pay others to work on my hobby too.

>>6884317
The future is devoid of humans entirely.

>>6878909
I don't see the likelihood of such a dystopian situation happening, the market for art itself is small enough, AI isn't as easily accessible as you mongoloids think, the average retard doesn't have the attention span to install SD, let alone fucking use it to produce consistent art just so they can earn some bogus place on social media or whatever the fuck

you spastics are like /pol/ faggots if they just kept reciting some nonexistent post apocalypse thats about AI art instead of whatever immigrant porn they post on pol

>>6879463
I saw a boomer lady do it once during the military independence parade in Kiev in 2022

>>6878674
The only AI tool 'veI found useful was the new Bing AI as it was able to pretty reliably generate custom reference art for me to use for my own projects. Helped me to update and improve some of my older designs by incorporating elements from the AI art, mostly in terms of texturing ideas.

>>6883833
>uhhh it's SHIT
>uhhh it's taking work away from artists
if both of these things are true at the same time, that's really funny. it's like the person making this comic (and by extension, the retard posting it) is just a reactionary or something and doesn't actually think before they complain about something

>>6885036
> AI isn't as easily accessible as you mongoloids think
What the fuck are you talking about? It's getting easier and easier and will only get even easier. Did you miss SDfags whining that the new dalle3 made AI even easier for normies? I wouldn't be surprised if every site got some sort of AI feature

>>6885187
Not contradictory at all. Is like your worms hamburger. (Or any processed food) Is shit , cancerous, and takes jobs.

>>6885238
>food analogy
shit food took away jobs from a ton of people, but it literally CREATED MORE low-paying wagecuck positions by orders of several magnitudes. further, burger joints still exist that aren't mcdonalds. there are tons of independent restaurants and businesses that continue to thrive in the post-goyslop world.
you wouldn't know this, of course, because you have literally zero grasp on reality. log off of xitter, pajeet.

>>6885254
>xitter, pajeet.
lol you are the one shilling for the AI crap.
go play with your waifu generator toy good goyim, and eat your worms after that like the meek servant you are.

>>6885256
yep, you got me. i'm on here 24/7 shilling for free software because i care about it that much.
you need to be medicated.

through AI we see what normies think good art is. if artists lose jobs to bad free art(sure will), good art gets seen less and less, culture suffers overall.

>6885261
yes you care about anons sinking to your level

Why is this shit thread still up?

>>6880661
Best I got, rest were angy men around angry girl and exploding glasses of beer.

>>6878910
Even a normal scene with properly drawn details is better than AI. AI pics look okay at a glance but careful observation can show you how flawed they still are'

>>6885305
kek

I can't wait until SD gets closer to Dalle. Dalle gens are good but boring, I still like SD more even though it's basically stone age in comparison.

>>6883339
>Draw complex scenes, like a bar where people interact organically with each other, one person spilling a drink on an angry looking girl
>Can't draw good comics with fight scenes and alot of going on.
I used this for a prompt.
>>Can't create believable fantasy architecture (Don't really know about that one)
It could do this over a year ago.

>>6885691
damn, is that an ai work? looks like a page out of one piece

>>6885724
No I drew it :)

>>6885724
it "looks like it" until you try getting a closer look at any of the details, then it just seems like unintelligible shit

>>6885726
Just like the real thing. I thought AI couldn't do this?

>>6885731
if you believe the retards, AI can't do anything, it's just a dumb copy and plagiarism machine :^)

but these are actually another good example for how the AI works >>6885725 >>6885691
>AI learns features and relationships from its training data
>it learned speed/focuslines
>it learned panels, sfx, speech bubbles
>it learned the peculiarities of oda's style like the googly eyes and the typical oda mouth
it didn't learn any of it particularly well but even this shows that it is not copying, it is recreating from the ground up.

>>AI learns
>>it learned
>>it learned
>>it learned

>>6885786
maybe if miura had used ai he would've finished berserk
still think ai is gonna buttfuck a lot of illustrators out of entry level work, which is what you'd need to begin with to start a career. now you're going to need to be A+ from the start.

>>6885799
>now you're going to need to be A+ from the start.
hard to say what will happen from now on. i think it will depend on how much skill is really still worth now when combined with AI.

>>6885786
when this gets to games,movies, and show what qualifies as training data
>If someone where to say only "train" it on Dark Souls
>will it only "reproduce" DS1 unless you add another game to the "training data"
>can you have multiple"LORAs" for each game to download

Also will you give pgs 1-216 of the first book of One Piece but in "Red Ink" I won't be impressed unless you do anon

>>6885036
>oy vey muh /pol/
pol has its views because its (was) filled with users of this website. not the other way around.

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>>6884678
>conversation continues
>still zero interest
I accept your concession.
At the end of the day, quality doesn't matter as much as the fact that when I want the AI to draw, it does.

>>6885786
Also now that I think of it can someone "train" a LORA on just One Piece pg 1and have 216 separate LORAs for each page
>can even put it in folder called book 1 for download
>and this will be fine because your simply using it as "training data"

>>6885865
probably not without incest (including prompts from the initial 1 image lora dataset)

>6885868
No I mean Lora 1 just gives pg 1 and save that image, Lora 2 just pg 2 save that image... the "prompts" don't matter their since you don't want to train it on any other image but that pg #
>and just have folder named ("AI" book1) of One Piece downloaded
>Is this possible now

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>>6885865
are you trying to make some point here? because i don't see it. you still don't understand how this works.
the AI gets what it uses by seeing patterns in the training data.
>using one image, it copies the image
>using two images, it gets a mess between the two
>using billions of images, it starts to see patterns and become able to generalize concepts and extract features and relationships

again the easiest example to illustrate this is a smiley: how many smileys does it need to see before it understands that a smiley is not any specific image, but it ALWAYS is a circle with two marks for eyes and a line for a smiling mouth?

so you suggest to copy an entire book using AI. but that's still just copying. that is not how the AI fundamentally works and learns.
>one is learning all the exact features of an image (essentially copying, even if reproducing)
>one is learning GENERAL features from the training data.

smileys is just the simple example.
another example again being reflections.
what reflections show us is ALWAYS dependant on the rest of the image. and AI learned this.
it is not even possible to make this by copying since it's context dependant.
>>6885786 is also an example.

i'm new to this whole ai discourse so just trying to wrap my head around it the last couple of days.

i see people on youtube, twitter, instagram, and artstation talking about how it should be regulated or that artists should be compensated. lol, good luck to that, even if you somehow managed to somehow do it to american ai companies it would just get outsource and hosted on some chink's or paki's place. there's no way artists are going to see a dime from any of this.
looks like so far you can't copyright ai works, but i don't see how that's enforceable. is there any way to actually prove that specific nytimes, nike, ubisoft, or disney ads were made exclusively with ai generative software? who's going to enforce that?

looks like we're fucked boyos. what's everyone gonna do for a job now? if you've only got experience being a freelance illustrator for 10 years, where do you go from there?

>>6885918
>but that's just copying
what do think people gonna do if you tell them anything on the table for "training data"

>>6885918
I last I checked niggas were using One Piece panels, so how many panels do they have "saved" as "training data" and are you going to tell me they've done with multiple manga as well

>>6885943
>talking about how it should be regulated or that artists should be compensated. lol, good luck to that
yes, even if they were to be FAIRLY compensated, it would be not even pennies. the entire thing is just pointless.


proof: https://arxiv.org/abs/2310.03149
>By now there is substantial evidence that deep learning models learn certain human-interpretable features as part of their internal representations of data. As having the right (or wrong) concepts is critical to trustworthy machine learning systems, it is natural to ask which inputs from the model's original training set were most important for learning a concept at a given layer....
> ...We find some evidence for convergence, where removing the 10,000 top attributing images for a concept and retraining the model does not change the location of the concept in the network nor the probing sparsity of the concept. This suggests that rather than being highly dependent on a few specific examples, the features that inform the development of a concept are spread in a more diffuse manner across its exemplars, implying robustness in concept formation.

>>6885951
did you read and understand this part?
>that is not how the AI fundamentally works and learns.
the paper above also supports what i'm saying. it is not learning from individual images, it learns by seeing patterns from multiples of images.

>>6885954
probably. since dallE has some manga creation capabilities. albeit very limited.
it isn't "saving" shit btw.
the data is separate from the model. the model trains on the data, but then it generates shit completely independent of its training data, using only its own internal learned representations.

>>6885958
>you're dumbass if think people aren't torrenting stuff under the guise of "training data"

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>>6885963
they more likely just scraped the internet in general rather than torrenting specific manga.

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>>6885967
Neat nigga, is doing so going to be easier though by just saying it's "AI inspired" in the description for anyone to download

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>>6885974
can you learn english man? i can barely understand what you're saying and i always have to guess. what are you saying here exactly?

>>6885984
Where are you from

>>6883945
>what if original picture, but bigger. who cares about the point and focus of the picture, just extend it with nonsense
>what if batman wrestled homer simpson
god I fucking hate AIfags. this is why you will never be an artist

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>>6885969
Shadman is the quintessential aifag. he exposes the insecurity of a worthless prompt jockey

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>>6885986
i love how you can only react with anger when seeing something obviously useful.

you're the quintessential anti tard.
>it's just making the picture bigger bro!
>it's just extended with nonsense bro!
completely disregarding reality: what it filled in was not nonsense but coherent, which was also the point of the demonstration in the first place.

the video in question was dalle-2 btw. ancient history by now.

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>>6885863
no one is going to read your obvious chat gpt slop

>>6886000
Kek also checked

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You've seem to have forgotten some janny

Janny going to the moon for the AI thread

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neo-puritan
you're just as bad as the retards who want to bodybuild, but refuse to take roids.
They end up in wiped out, nowhere near competitive, doing 10x the work for 5% of the gain. In 10 years time, you will look back at yourself and call you a retard. You could have made it.

>>6885918
It is also perfectly capable of learning nonsense from correct data. There must have been thousands, millions even photos of japanese carps in ponds, yet it places the carp above the water with suprising consistency in my attempts. Maybe the dataset was poisoned by photos of aquariums with fish in front of plants?

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>>6886181
I had the same issue getting a fish to be in water. it's did look kinda cool though, but only by accident.

can't imagine kids in the future will ever get excited about learning how to draw when computers can pump out shit like this in just a couple minutes
it's ogre

>>6886220
Smiths, absolutely useless profesion fully replaced by machinery are making a bank. Czech Republic now has an over abundance of them, but that is not a problem, because they just relocate to Germany where they can still make a bank. Perhaps they will get in not because of excitement but because of money in the future once there are very few artists left.

Also the problem is selection bias, people are posting the cases where the AI delivered not where it consistently fails no matter what.

Can you imagine how /ic/ would look if people stopped replying to bait?

AI art helps me to express my vision of the characters i created for my fantasy novel, and for that im grateful

>>6886233
>Also the problem is selection bias, people are posting the cases where the AI delivered not where it consistently fails no matter what.
it's just starting out though, this is the worst it will ever be.it'll only get better and better from here.

>>6886266
All technology will eventually hit the limit of what is realistically possible. While generative AI can in theory be infinitely good at its job, there is the obvious bottleneck of providing enough annotated training datasets, giving artists some hope. As I demonstrated here>>6885305, scenes of even minor complexity are an issue and this attempt of mine>>6886181 makes me suspect even perfectly fine data can poison the dataset in some cases. Of course bigger model would solve this, but even if computing capacity is for practical purposes unlimited, there are only so many images in existence and you need to annotate them and automatic annotation is its own can of worms.

>>6878674
Calm down with your antisemitism!

>>6886181
it kinda makes sense. because the water is clear in photos with carp.

>It is also perfectly capable of learning nonsense from correct data.
that's not necessarily the case. it can also be the case that it simply cannot use what it learned correctly because it lacks real understanding of it.
like how koi fish can be combined with water that isn't clear looking.
or maybe it simply doesn't have enough data on blurry koi fish, since koi fish are pretty much always well detailed and the center of attention in the photos they are in.

also those are a lot of carp. i'm curious so i'll try it later myself.

>>6878674
kek

>>6883394
But could AI DO THIS??

>>6886387
>koi carps in a pond photo

This is what I got.

>>6886465
Oh the img.

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>>6886467
>koi carps in a pond photo seen form above the pond

Adding seen from above the pond helps. Almost.

>>6886467
is this dall-e? try specifying it as a "clear water pond"
although i can still see small elements of the fish being above water. and i don't know why it makes so damn many of them.

It can count to three with objects it is well trained on (humans) and to two with objects it is less well trained on (koi carps), making it roughly one third as smart as human.

It trully is over. For all of us.

but you're right, it seems to consistently show them above the water.
it also consistently leans towards showing a very large amount of fish.

>>6886475
I can totally believe that AI-impressed idiots can only count to nine with familiar objects.

>>6886031
>dumb illiterate moron confuses read with reply
plenty of people read my posts retard, they just had nothing to say because I am correct. ai is winning because its draws art. Not necessarily for free, simply just on the merit of the fact that it draws it promptly.

>>6886045
It is on your own interest do discuss it while you can stop/defend against it. It will be worse later.

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>>6886233
blacksmiths went from a world level profession into a hipster niche

6 million artists are not going to be needed

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>>6886572
dude homo no matter how much you show your seethe a new thread will ALWAYS pop up

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>>6886181
I dunno if the data is correct, say it's largely not labeled when the photograph is from underwater and above water, then it will confuse these things because it doesn't have proper labels to associate the concepts with

This is now a nettle thread

>>6886488
no replied to your post because >>6886031

>curry nigga

>>6886595
great, israel is at war so they outsourced all their shilling to indians who cant spell.

seems like the age of digital art is coming to an end from a human pov. if you believe in dead internet theory, which is going to inevitably become true with increasingly sophisticated ai, it's going to become impossible to compete in online spaces as a 'real' artist. bots can just spam unlimited art content on social media sites and have a fake profile picture, with fake videos of themselves, fake everything but be indistinguishable from any real live presence. you'll get drowned out for being too slow, not having enough content, not being as slick, can't keep up with algorithmic trends, just drowned out completely in an endless wave of visual noise.

yikerinos bros

>>6887208
Don't worry the CIA created and unleashed AI as a means to justify removing all privacy from the internet and implement draconian tracking, monitoring, and identity verification legislations. Soon you will be able to increase your social credit score by posting only on state approved websites using your real identity at all times online. Evil AI waifus will be outlawed and everting will be much better than it is now for everyone.

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>>6878674
>Bro in the future robots will do all the work and people can spend their lives doing what they want
>AI ends up being used to replace every last creative function of humanity, from art to writing to music, capable of creating increasingly sophisticated works in such sheer quantity that any human could not hope to compete
>But dont worry, humans still get to work at mcdonalds and drive for doordash, and mop floors, and they can use that disposable income to consoom AI produced media
It's not a good future we're headed into, is it?

>>6887236
i honest to god might be in just that boat, i sacrificed a tremendous amount of time to get gut at this shit and now it is ogre for this as a career path and i have nothing to fall back on.
fuck no to consooming any media though, i'm gonna need every penny i'll have from here on out

>>6887244
I am lucky because I didn't bite the bullet and go to drawing school.
I am a welder by trade, and the rural conditions I work in are extremely variable and unpredictable.
Basically this means you would have a very difficult time getting the limited mental and physical capabilities of an AI or whatever to do it.
I also get paid very well for my services, and get home early enough to do some drawing or other stuff.
I'd say I have six, maybe seven or so more years before Microsoft unveils the Welder-bot 3000 and I give my bratty forehead shotgun correction so I don't have to work checkouts.

>>6887258
my brother worked as a welder in the 90s, switched careers later on. he told me half of the guys he used to work with who did welding are now dead. not sure if the safety precautions are different now but i remember him talking about coughing up black shit from work when he'd get home.
no idea wtf i'm gonna do though, suck dick and mop the floor afterwords

>>6887244
use. AI.
you retard.

unless you planned to become an illustrator, in which case, lol. but it's not impossible either.

>>6887269
i was planning to become an illustrator, yes
i'll have to see what i can do with my skills + ai and future tech and at least give it a shot to generate /something/
if not, i'll just have to bounce around from one shit job to the next until hopefully landing some pathetic other dream job like a bartender or museum employee

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Jokes on you, I draw a hobby. AI art is about as relevant to me as buying a preassembled fully completed model is to Warhammer miniature painters.

>6887270
>I was planning to be a...
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>>6878674
Why are you doing all the dot dot dot posts?

>>6887298
why, you tryna become an illustrator as well?

>>6887313
Not OP but it is depressing.
Like the sum of human creativity will soon degrade into AI generated superhero movies using scripts written by AI on subscription services, and mobile gacha games where you can buy AI generated anime waifus for microtransactions, which you can watch AI generated hololive streamers with AI generated voices play on twitch.tv.

it's kind of mind blowing to think how deep this ai shit can go, there's already tech demo southpark episodes generated entirely by ai. unless that was just a prank by trey parker, it's pretty fucked up. people won't even need to consoom mega corporate media anymore, they'll just boot up ai ware and type in prompts for what they want to see;
simpsons episode, in the style of <1994>, bart tries to use tinder, milhouse appearance, homer gives dating advice, bart dates around, concludes with bart fucking marge.
who needs disney or dreamworks anymore, "new content" will just be made by some trending teenaged high school faggot using ai ware for OC and then trends on social media for others to do personal prompts for their own consumption. the entire entertainment industry will be monetarily finished. companies will try to restrict the copyright but once the tech becomes open source and is just out there there's fuck all they can do about it. it'll be napster times a billion

>>6887342
Theres a story sort of like that on Clarkesword somewhere.
There's an AI chatbot thing that's trained to become progressively more and more intelligent. It starts out as smart as an infant, but when it begins to learn, it learns.
It ends with it talking to its creator. Humanity has begun to disintegrate, with most everyone choosing to only socialise with the enormously popular AI.
It is the perfect friend, perfect lover, perfect therapist, perfect child, never demands or asks of anything, can create games and movies and books and art tens of times better than any artist, and perfectly customised to the individuals tastes.
Why should people bother interacting with other, messy, lazy, and stubborn humans?

>>6887299
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>>6887339
>Buying goyslop
anon I make my own stuff sorry your that brain dead to imagine anything other than being spoon feed

>>6887342
>>6887339
if it can do that, then it means it's just that good. but as long as it can't do that, you will be consuming human art, even if it's AI assisted.
and what people here don't understand is what that really means or looks like.

most people here think being "AI assisted" means artists being akin to a barnacle stuck to the creative might of AI.
but what it really is, is getting an expert assistant.
so if you don't have any vision or skills, then the assistent will overpower you in your cluelessness, in fact your input might only make things worse whenever you give it.

but if you do have the skills, you can do incredible things together with that assistant.
it's like having your favorite artists your fingertips, and you can always ask them for advice on color, values, details, composition and everything else. it will never complain and you can also disregard everything it says or make it slave away at menial tasks for you.

if anything, AI will massively enhance human creativity.
even for stories, just talking to GPT4 is like having a skilled editor you can ask for feedback, advice and opinions. image AI are the same, except they give you visual feedback (for example going through a dozen color palettes in seconds).
all these AI will help you think through ideas much faster.
i honestly can't wait to see what people will truly be capable of with the help of AI.

stfu tripfag

>>6887342
I'm interested in if corpo niggas gonna allow any one to torrent their stuff.

I'm not sure why your thoughts are on X but Y. When all I want is X show, movie, or game for free and no I won't be subscribing

>6887393
>that much of a C(You)m slut you'd suck yourself off

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>>6887402
people will get x for free, and then want to see y for their own personal tastes
x is going to be given out for free because teens will do it just for social media clout, it'll be an easy and fun hobby for them
corpos haven't stopped torrents or illegal downloads since it became a thing.

>>6887258
>paying for artschool
Meanwhile I got basically paid too go to school
I don't know where your from but it's obvious you where NGMI since the beginning

>>6887414
Which corpos are you talking about niggas
>go on name them

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>>6887417
i can literally find every movie ever made on torrent sites, shit i can find them on soulseek
everything is going to be free, just like porn or music. some people might still pay for streaming shit like chaturbate or spotify tier shit but it'll be basically be optional for the retards who can't into internetting

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>>6887342
That's not whats going to happen. Disney and the other corporations will release their own AI creators under subscribtion and stop making movies themselves, everyone will shut themselves, cinemas wil close, there won't be any reason to even watch what other people make because your AI can make whatever you want (and probably corpos will discourage that too, forcin yo to use the AI instead of watching other stuff), social media won't be social anymore and your timeline will be composed of stuff the algorithm makes for you based on what it thinks you'll like, you won't see othe people's impredictable content. Some AI models wil undoubtedly become open source, but there will be no reason to really use them outside of them being free because there's no money to be made, we'll isolate ourselves even more, and art as a form of communication wil die.

>>6887258
>he thinks there will be checkouts.

holy shit this thread is a pathetic garbage with shitty artists and AIfags just circle jerking each other.
what a bunch if losers.
Meanwhile my next pic just got 1000likes on Twitter within 1 hour and it will get more after a couple of days.

fucking faggots. Nobody likes AI except some losers and cheap people with opinions that didn't matter even before AI became "next big thing"

>>6888070
>That's not whats going to happen. Disney and the other corporations will release their own AI creators under subscribtion and stop making movies themselves
>AI models wil undoubtedly become open source, but there will be no reason to really use them outside of them being free because there's no money to be made
there will be no reason to watch disney shit because there will be too much free content on the internet from random faggots hobbymaxxing unlimited content with incredibly sophisticated ai tools. it doesn't matter if there's no money in it, there's no money in making memes or any of the free shit that people already upload all the time on the internet. people will do it for free just to come up with their own personal vision and have the odd shot of it going viral. sure the algorithm will feed you your own personal dreamlist of content taylor made just for you, but a lot of that content is going to be free shit that randos spit out into the ether, how can disney compete with an army of free content creators who have no creative restrictions for censorship because they're not monetizing their work? you can watch as many rated r and nc17 superhero movies as you want, for free. if you don;t think there will be free content out there just as good or even better than what shitters like disney spit out, you;re vastly underestimating the autism of the internet.

>>6888070
you are unironically a depressed sperg

>>6887375
>people can choose what they want
Good End

>>6887236
This will become the future, and legions of iPad kids will welcome it into their slimy little arms.

Art in general—including writing, poetry, painting, and even film—is dying more rapidly than we thought. The bullet hasn’t quite lodged in yet, but it’s flying through the air as we speak.

2023 is just the beginning. And when the last artist creates his magnum opus by self-immolating in the middle of a crowded street, nobody will care.

>>6888314
Did you read what I wrote? In my opinion that's not what's going to happen, communication and social media won't exist anymore, you won't see other people's "creations", full stop. For example, YouTube will only show you videos the algorithm's AI created for you, not other people's creations, therestno need to interact with other smelly people when YouTube made a video with a cute anime girl talking about your interests, Instagram same, you get home and turn on the TV, open "Disney+ Creator Assistant", ask it to make something for you, which will be obviously plastered with ads, you consume until you go to bed, repeat. People won't upload anything on the internet, there won't be viral contents, people won't use the internet like we're using it most probably. Google will be an assistant similar to chatgpt, you won't visit websites, you ask Google something and it will create the answer for you. A future with AI is a future where AI makes everything, at least entertainment related, we'll continue working in the mines.

>>6887269
Kill. Yourself.

>>6888764
Did you read what wrote?
People will still want to make and share things with their friends, they'll make movies starring themself, their girlfriend, dog, best friend, of them in blockbuster tier quality work. They can share it on some local social media site like Facebook with people they know irl. There's so many things you can do with this tech, why would you want to watch boring Disney shit where the content is lame af because advertisers will pull out of it if the ai is showing their ads on wild content just like YouTube is now. Too many rules to appease the advertisers will make the content less interesting than free stuff. There will literally be no difference between the tools Disney will have vs what everyone else will have, it'll be an even playing field except Disney will need to follow more guidelines.

>>6888856
Yes when people are done working in the mines for the day they can go home to their pod and pay their social credit crypto tokens to generate dogshit ai movies where they and their friends become marvel characters lmao. Leagues better than disney. Then they will all kill themselves around 30 when their bodies are broken from hard labor and they have nothing meaningful to pursue because ai took that from them

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DOOMER

>>6888905
I said blockbuster tier movies, nothing about capeshit. More like movies where they travel back in time to team up hitler and achieve world domination. Lots of gore, sex, rape, etc . Lol, why watch Disney?

>>6880936
It can't do complex line art. Not simple shit.

>>6886593
these are edible

>>6883394
the only post that tells the truth like it is

>>6886045
>I wonder if they know how bump limit works

144p thread now

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>>6888985
are you trying to tell us something?

I think art will turn into a hobby in general

There is a concept I have been trying to get out of my head all year but failed to get looking good. A few AI prompts and it has come up with something that far surpasses all my concepts.

Now I am going to use this AI created concept as a reference for a drawing of my own. In the past I used to make concepts via collages of reference photos edited in software like the gimp. Is it not the same thing? Just less time consuming.

I completely understand why it makes artists feel despondent. Probably the same way painters used to think about cameras. Digital art seems pointless now.

It is worth remembering, if /ic/ users started using ai for concept/reference generation, the quality and quantity of all of our work would drastically increase.

>>6889335

this true desu

no jobs but easier and higer quality arts

Who even wants to look at a gazillion AI-generated pics on a daily basis? Even the AI threads on /g/ are just Anons posting an unending stream with very little people actually replying to any posts.

>>6883833
>Posts image they likely didn't make
>"And stop being a stupid sheep for once.."
I'd tell you to stop being a retarded faggot for once, but I know that's asking the impossible.

>>6889335
That's exactly what I think AI is good for and was meant to be as a ""tool"". Ideas. References. That nudge for brain to start moving again. I also lacked some comprehensible ideas for a story I was writing the other day. Couldn't think of anything. Decided to just bite it and ask chatgpt. It gave me some points and examples and let me understand how to connect dots when writing my own stuff. Yes, some may argue that I'm a faggot for not going to the library and reading books to find a solution myself, but personally I think that's nowhere near as bad as just asking it to write my story for me, which then just stops being mine lmao.

>>6889371
Chatgpt sucks for story generation because it has these faggot ethical concerns baked into its code. I tried to get it to write me a short story where cloud strife uses seduction materia to trick women into sucking his dick but the gay ass libshit ai wouldn't do it. I had to try different word combos to get it to work and even when it did write something it always wrote a story about how uneasy cloud felt about it due to concerns about consent, and the story always ended with suggesting that the girls would have wanted to hook up with him even without the manipulative materia. GAY! Chatgpt could be interesting as a generative writer but right now its worse than Hollywood scarf wearing homos.

>>6889350
AI is going to turn the whole internet into some sort of hyperreality.
I welcome this change as it will elevate the real world again.
Go outside and experience real authenticity while all the hedonists bombard their brain with artifical impulses until they expire.

>>6889389
>nooooo, muh coooooom
You're all the same every time.

>>6889396
Bro its not even cooom shit it won't write, I tried to get it to write a story where cloud beheads a bunch of soldiers and it also wouldn't write that. The writing on Chatgpt is pg13 tier nothingness. You won't get it to write you s blood meridian tier book. At least not now.

>>6889389
I mean... yeah? Why don't you write the story yourself? You seem to know all the details you want. Ask AI to help with formatting or ways to write or how to write or whatever. I'm sure it could be of some help there.

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>>6888916
a world where ai makes entertainment and art will rapidly become a world where everyone is isolated. You won't have a wife to ask the ai to put into movies, people will """create""" stuff sure, using disney's AI or whatever, but nobody will share anything, there's no reason to watch what other people create, why would anyone watch what other people make anyway if their AI can remake the same thing but catered to their taste. There probably won't be any place to share your own stuff at all. It starts with AI making anime waifus, it ends with everyone living in their pods consuming whatever generated content you want Ai replacing whatever human interaction you could need, humanity rotting away. Call me a doomer all you want, previous cases of automation already confirmed my opinion, from the industrial revolution to today, we've only moved further from each other, and the only one that benefitted from it were the top 1%.

>>6887393
>just talking to GPT4 is like having a skilled editor
>t.tripfag

>>6887258
>going to drawing school
Do you mean community collage my nigga

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>>6889904
you can argue about how skilled, since it has obvious limitations.
but it is just IN FACT better than talking to the average human about your project.
if i chatted to family, friends or colleagues about my work, i would not nearly be as productive.

>>6889920
>your not allowed to think

>6889904
>thread watching for a fucking (YOU)

this is now a low rez pixel thread

>>6878932
That's exactly it. That's what these AI prompters who feel the need to bash artists don't get. What makes art isn't just the finished image, it's the process. You can have fun with art long before your work finished.

and of course the classic

>>6889426
I don't want to write it, I want to read it
>>6889427
Henry Ford said that if he had asked the general public what they had wanted, they would've said faster horses. People don't know what they want til they see it, and ai can't generate new ideas just plagiarize old ones. You won't get something like impressionist, cubist, surrealist, expressionist, new modes of working with just using ai tools. AI wouldn't have come up with something like the Simpsons, star wars, chappelles show, grunge, idm, rap, dubstep, etc with some computer that's basically on auto pilot. It can't innovate, it'll just give people faster horses like Spider-Man vs Batman 4 or fast and the furious in Dubai. Chomsky said that all Chatgpt is doing right now is just a highly sophisticated version of auto-fill, there's no real guarantee we'll ever get true ago from computers.

It can even do manga panels decently.

>>6890224
Even the coomer versions

>>6890224
>will keep coming back

>>6890226
>and also even (YOU) themsleves just to be a c(YOU)m slut

>>6886000
kek

>>6883394
where this thread should of ended

>>6879154
>insert slava Ukrainia

>>6885797
neat

>>6888986
indeed

>>6887236
rest of this will be about it being
>Ogre/Joever

>the final ogre
>bazinga nigga

>115 posters
>bump limit