/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>6879400
Is alla prima good?

>>6879412
yes, no, maybe

>>6879400
Just a stool and I can proceed to color
Hope I don't fuck up

pls give tips on making attractive and proportionate feet.

>>6879412
great book but beginners won't get much out of it. not strictly an instructional book but will answer a lot of questions if you have experience painting. it's packed full of useful info.

>>6879446
>step 1: dunk your head in sulfuric acid

>pen nub worn down the perfect amount so it glides across the tablet like butter
WAGMI

Draw this.

Paint this.

>>6879457
I'd rather draw this to be honest.
Captcha: HHYNGG

Keys to drawing 3-B

First time using a brush to blend charcoal. Also my stick was very big and I was lazy to sharpen it/make it pointy, so I couldn't draw some details properly, and kind of just gave up on the head.

>>6879464
This isn't the girl from the Virgin Killer album, is it?

>>6879477
Nah just a random metart whorelet

>>6879400
I dont get the premise of this image. It makes no sense to compare the presented artworks, they seem to be made by different people and one is an attempt to draw a cartoon from imagination while the other is copying a portraite from a photo. Learning how to draw and paint are supposed to complement each other.

>>6879400
i don't get the OP
how do youu learn to paint in an hour?

>>6879488
OP misunderstood the quote and is making some useless point

>>6879464
Is this all it takes for you to get off, some random underaged teenager as long as she is naked?

>>6879488
just copy and render, you will eventually get it right

why is drawing a character looking up so fucking hard
I try to look at artists I follow to see how they do it, but it looks like 99% of artists just never draw it.

>>6879487
disregard reality when drawing anime eyes

>>6879493
No. I also require tummy.

>>6879500
This shot is way nicer though. The first pic girl has a boyish figure and the mosquito bite tits arent helping

>>6879505
>boyish figure
Yeah that's fair for the first photo

I've just started drawing again for the first time since I was a kid. Sorry for what is probably the dumbest and most beginner of beginner questions, but: My lines are squiggly as shit. I can't draw a straight line to save my life. Even my attempted curved lines don't curve straight (if that makes sense). Is there anything to help something as basic as this? It's a bit overwhelming how much material there is for learning, but everything I've checked doesn't address anything as basic as this, even if its for beginners lol

>>6879523
Lesson 1 of Drawabox. Don't do any more though, it'll kill you with boredom

>>6879486
I made the drawing in OP, and this is a painting I did a year ago. It's definitely easier to paint and paintings get a lot more praise from normies. Being mocked in the OP for the last two threads is the highpoint of my drawing career.

>>6879400
I guess I'm just running the risk of posting my work online, but it's very disheartening seeing as my stuff is still considered "beg"-tier after all this time...

(the portrait btw)

>>6879541
Cool thanks for letting us know

>>6879513
her face and hair look like a femboy. if you told me this was a tranny I'd believe you.

>>6879493
Pretty much yeah. Why, what does it take for you?

>>6879547
Some higher standards probably

>>6879523
Use your arm as if you were drawing in wet sand, or in the dirt on a car window. These are the same motions you should apply when drawing, especially doing long straight lines.

>>6879446
shameless reply to get help.

testing some proportions

>>6879446
copy this twice
https://e-hentai.org/g/2072052/4327463a6e

>>6879589
Here you go, anon.

>>6879596
funny

>>6879592
>https://e-hentai.org/g/2072052/4327463a6e
Thank you, thats really useful.
Bless you, Anon.

>>6879596
Here you go, anon.

How to digital paint good? I've done plenty of sketching on traditional and am aware of most of the fundamentals there. I've been recommended two value studies but I don't know how to proceed.

>>6879614
You're in luck. It's the same fundamentals on digital.

>>6879614
start with the sinix how to digital paint videos on judentube, it starts with two value studies and you can go from there

What should I work on? I'm still not comfortable with digital.

>>6879676
Value and cast shadows.

>>6879540
>>6879541
The biggest mistake you guys made was posting your work in the biggest fucking nodraw crab bucket on the planet.

>>6879686
james gurney, color and light or another resource?

>>6879400
how do I learn to paint? what's a good starting point?

>>6879757
Learn to draw first.

>>6879759
no I want to paint

>>6879760
Buy a bottle of Liquin, some oil paint, brushes, and canvases. Then paint. That's it.

>>6879760
painting is drawing

Not much today, but I did a bunch of 3D shapes...not too great, though I will say I felt more control over my curves when I lacked that before. Though I was sadly in a state of anxiety and low mood so I didn't do as much work as I should have.

Tomorrow I'll try to make more progress. I am hoping to start Vlippu's and Keys to Drawing soon.

>>6879760
Before you learn to draw? Good luck.

>>6879768
>>6879776
then why does OP image say you can learn to paint in 1 hour?

>>6879771
I think you should be using references before going from imagination to grasp how the shapes curves in space, you can find some blobs here:

https://idlecanvas-wagmi.web.app/?mode=3d

If you guys haven't seen, anon created a very well made video on the ins and outs of perspective.
>>6871479

>>6879778
Did you really not think for one second that the 25 years to learn to draw was a prerequisite for that one hour?
Or are you just one of the legion of virgin baiters littering this board?

>>6879778
op is an idiot and misusing the quote. you'll be severely stunted in the long run if you neglect drawing

>>6879778
you're too retarded to learn to draw. Give up.

Is it more effective to first create a 3d model of an organic object to ensure you fully understand its form and proportions and only then try to draw it?

are there any resources on sculpturing?

>>6879805
holy
garbage

>>6879809
Shut up and leave.
>>6879805
I like it but you picked a tough ref, very subtle value changes and pretty much no shadows

>>6879796
I created a bunch of blobs for >>6879779 and honestly I only found them useful when I was actually drawing them like >>6879676, the actual modelling process didn't yield any substantial benefits in understanding. At least I can create almost any shape I'm struggling with and use it as an accurate 3D reference.
tl;dr its useful for creating references and learning 3d modelling workflows but nothing more.

>>6879805
use simpler shapes, check marco bucci

>>6879813
>Shut up and leave.
why? it wont turn garbage into something that its not

>>6879805
Don't use black for shadows. It messes up the temperature difference. If the light is warm (orangeish) the shadow should be cool (blueish)

>>6879487
>>6879757
>>6879805

>>6879826
YOU MUST DRAW FOR 25 YEARS BEFORE YOU'RE ALLOWED TO ASK FOR FEEDBACK ON A PAINTING!!!! SEE I HAVE A QUOTE!!!!

Fucking IQ titans on this board.

>>6879830

Getting a better understanding of the "mask" of the face, any tips on tightening up the construction a bit more?

Started watercolor a day ago. Is there any good materials for begs?

>>6879813
Agree, thanks for the critique
>>6879823
I try to cool the temperature by changing the hue towards purple/magentas but I guess I just need mileage to get the hang of it.
Yeah, black really kills it, thanks
>>6879826
Some things you can only learn by doing, painting is one of them.

>>6879839
Definitely check out James Gurney's YT channel

>>6879839
Havent been looking out for much on watercolor but this guy seems to know a thing or two https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMk4faUePqo

what books did YOU PERSONALLY find particularly useful?

>>6879830
beginners should just shut their mouth and listen

>>6879850
all the best information I've ever gotten come from interviews, livestreams, and private classes given by professionals.

There is a HUGE gap between the way the average drawing teacher practices and teaches drawing and how the PROFESSIONAL practices drawing. Even esteemed teachers like Vilppu and Steve Huston pale in comparison to the instruction I've gotten from being mentored by actual professionals. In my mind, those "drawing teachers" that give classes at Disney and other studios are a huge JOKE and a waste of money. Professionals take those classes out of curiosity, but it's largely a total waste of time.

>>6879690

>>6879878
What was this one singular instruction passed down to you by the actual professinals?

>>6879904
It's not theory, but it's a "method" of practicing.

Read this thread: >>6876881

And watch the David Finch Study Streams. (Frazetta and Claire Wendling streams are the best)

>>6879916
snore

>>6879919
Jesus told the truth, and the people hated him for it

>>6879878
Lmao biggest cope I've seen on this board.

Reposting this cause just found out there's a beginner thread.

Been learning to draw over October and decided to tackle a (witch) character, I'm trying to copy the hair on the left but can't quite nail down why it looks weird.

I broke it down into smaller chunks but I'm having trouble with scale / orientation i think?

I'd appreciate the insight from someone with better 3d vision / experience with cool hair!

cheers.

>>6879878
This reads like something pic related would type

>>6879976
>>6879986
Sheep

>>6879981
try doing it with a simpler form first, don't draw individual strands or the tips, just throw down a line for where the hair mass ends. get the big shape of the hair right.

>>6879757
learn to draw first
drawing (no shading, outline only) allows you to see outer edges / contours correctly and learn to judge angle / proportion correctly
drawing (shading) then teaches you to see value / lightness without color of inner edges, and accurate judge how the shape of areas, how bright they are, the hardness of their edges
PAINTING on top of that is just taking the previous two steps and adding color (correct hue + saturation)

>>6879805
i wish there was part of the OP that taught people to avoid pictures of pretty women for beginner studies
the human face is one of the most complex and difficult subjects and any mistake is intuitively perceived by your brain as "very wrong"
fully frontal perspective flattens out the form and makes it far more difficult to create a "3d" image
soft diffuse lightning contributes to a lack of hard edges or major changes in value or tone
often makeup / editing afterwards destroys proportions, distorts and flattens it out further
details like hair, freckles etc. tempt people to "cheat" them in with texture brushes or focus on those instead of much large mistakes in proportion or value or tone

So what anatomy book do JPs pros usually learn from?

Surely it's not something like bridgman

Apparently construction is NOT the play, so anatomy it is!

>>6880049
https://e-hentai.org/g/2676935/afc594ef06/
https://e-hentai.org/g/1505296/3050b3b077/
https://e-hentai.org/g/1511814/466b0e578a/

Sup beg, drawing these filled me with dread that i will never get gud. Feels beg beg.

>>6879981
you have the good idea, keep going
>>6879895
booba + extreme perspective. nice
>>6879850
keys to drawing, hands down if whole fucking beg did actually read and finished all exercises from it we could rename this general to INT
>>6879839
that is very cool actually. check
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2130526.Mastering_Atmosphere_Mood_in_Watercolor
>>6879805
pro beg tip: use a better brush OR a duo: something like HARD ROUND BRUSH for getting the paint on the canvas + hardedges and whatever brush you used now for blending + soft edges. you cannot use just 1 soft blurry brush and expect it to work in digital painting because hard edges are VERY important
>>6879797
sculpt chads have their own separate boards like /3
>>6879796
recommended workflow (according to perspective books): rough sketch, perspective grid, very basic 3D shapes in perspective, draw the rest of the owl. the main advantage of using the 3D big shapes is ensuring proper placement + scaling + foreshortening
>>6879757
the OP has literally three books about how to paint...
>>6879541
>>6879540
i think you are the first anon who has ever been offended by having his artwork featured in OP. it means you are winning, not losing
>>6879523
1. PYW, 2. dont worry, your lines will get less and less wobbly with practice. and by practice i mean drawing. you dont have to artistically practice straight lines. just draw
>>6879487
booba but you lack hard edges and proper value scale
>>6879474
passing grade
>>6879451
too grotesque and cartoonish to be coom material
>>6879446
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2327780/HAELE_3D__Feet_Poser_Pro/

warmup from this morning, ref'd a skull from some other thread i don't remember which.

>>6880061
woops used a screenshot but forgot my screen was that high res. Here's scaled down to fit screen easier.

>>6880049
Loomis, unironically
just check Hide Channel where he talks about this book all the time
on twitter I've also seen japanese artists shilling Morpho and Stonehouse too
>>6880060
I remember when I copied the heads from that book, it was very boring

>>6880060
you'll get there pawell. Glad you started working on figure drawing. It's worlds apart from perspective drafting, isn't it?

I love inktober it forces me to draw everyday

>>6879457
that was hard

>>6880060
Why do you even grind loomis faces, all you should study is the technique and apply your own style to it, what kind of style are you aiming for anyways? My guess is something in anime style since you wanted to create a coom game.


You will get nothing out of just blindly copying every page of all these art books, you need to try to start and invent something for yourself you have the skills so start. You need to create your own way of learning from these books not just blindly copying them like an autist. You know when I draw and encouter frustration or a problem, I solve those problems with the techniques from these books. You learn by that, trial and error, no person ever learned by just reading a book and writing the text down page by page, thats the kind of autism that engraves the knowledge into your head, sure, but it doesn't give you the skill, only the knowledge.

How the fuark do I keep my vertical lines parallel when doing perspective drawing on paper?

>>6880147
education falls under fair use.

Checkmate, AI retard

>>6880147
kys jeet

Where should I look to improve this painting?
I feel like its missing something but I can't think of anything I can add to make it better.

>>6880190
please be trolling

>>6879433
Looks great bro but the ass on the very right of the pic is off to me

>>6879433
Honestly, taking a closer look. You need to focus on the lower half of the female form. Very symbolically drawn and missing key anatomy, simply not enough curves/lines. The lower half of the girl on the left is ok, but could use some work, and everything from the foot to the right, and especially the lower half of the far right needs a good bit of finishing. Still has a lot of potential and I'm not trying to bash you fren.

is this worth finishing? I'm kinda losing steam on wanting to draw it

Getting better with each head, only 98 more to go
Lips are a little tough when they're not defined but at least I'm getting the structure of the head down

>>6880214
It's better to finish art since it's a good reason to practice coloring, shading, etc. Plus, it's a good habit to avoid starting a billion projects and never finishing any of them.

i dont agree with this image, i think you should learn drawing cause it's fun but regardless It inspired me to try out painting, i rarely ever paint and when i do i have no clue what im doing. Please offer help
I did a sketch on the right side for comparison

>>6880232
When you paint you have to think about shapes and value rather than lines. Sinix's has a couple videos on this

>>6880231
I usually finish my pieces but sometimes I just need some reassurance so I don't end up wasting too much time polishing a turd

Hello brothers, what is a good tablet to buy for a begginer? Wacom One?

>>6880242
I regret getting the small one. medium would be much better

>>6880239
Even polished turds have value. An important step in learning is knowing what NOT to do, so if you learn something that's bad with your current project, you'll know to try something else the next time. This applies to determining color choice and manipulating your layers, filters, effects, and everything else; you'll only really know what to do with those if you have the experience.

how do I get myself through the "it's all roughed in but cleaning it up and adding details is really boring" phase?

>>6880249
you stop thinking about it and autopilot

>>6880249
Find some way to enjoy it? I like treating the little details the same way I do the general pose. The only thing that's actually boring is tracing over your own lines when you're redrawing and finalizing them.

might need to change up his buttons and collar a little bit. might just take a break from this and come back to it in a few days when I have more energy for it

Also the rim of his hat is way harder to get right than I thought it would be

mfs in /trad won't reply

What books/tutorials/other resources would you guys recommend for gesture and coming up with good poses from imagination?

>>6879433
You're making gains, thank you for the lesbian porn

>>6879400
I uh, don't know what I'm doing.

day 84
if it hasn't become apparent arleady i've been getting pretty tired of these, it's using up the time and efffort I would rather use for /just drawing/
ok but that is complete cope though, I know i still am lacking in skills, I need to keep doing exercises, but I do need some breakthrough on drawing backgrounds and rendering them

>>6880213
shine on you crazy diamond
>>6880220
>>6879835
you've been had by construction peddlers
>>6880256
it look alright
>>6880137
nice
>>6879833
some of the best artists on twitter completed art school so idk
>>6879826
thats because painting is drawing too

>>6880269
why everything has the same texture? the texture on the shark dude looks rough which is cool but on the uber slave looks out of place the same with the blood.

>>6880295
>you've been had by construction peddlers
you do realize eventually I won't need to use all of those lines to construct a drawing right lol

>>6880295
you think it looks alright? do you mean it looks mediocre?

>>6880302
I think it looks alright

>>6880297
i gotta switch up my hatching

>>6879541
I believe OP was joking over that quote from Ingres, that since painting is so damn easy (it isn't) the same /beg/ who drew right could paint left
You got it all backwards lmao

>try to draw while listening to an audiobook
>imagining scenes takes up too much brain processing

>>6880213
oc groomer

>>6880318
i got the joke eventually. i'm slow lol, excuse my shitty sob comment

stuff

Darth Soka force shrink

is overlaying to see mistakes a bad habit? my observation isn't good enough to copy without it

>>6880411
Coomer cretin.

>>6880060
>sculpt chads have their own separate boards like /3
my bad, I should have specified. any resources on sculpturing with putty?

Started watching a cgma course (environmental design) and tried my best to follow along.
The instructor said some useful stuff but then jumped into doing a demo which threw me off desu.

Any tips to learn how to draw heraldry and symbols well? I try to copy them (For obvious reasons) but idk they look bad in terms of perspective in my drawings.

>>6880477
kenshi?

>>6880486
Draw them flat and then redraw them once you know what design you want to manipulate in the third dimension?

>>6880477
have you considered learning to draw semi properly first before jumping into concept art/design shit

Excuse me.
Is this how you're supposed to study anatomy?

I picked up morpho since it's seems to be a JPs favorite

Do I just copy and let muscle memory do the rest?

I'm sorry if this is a stupid question

I tried using that LineofAction site for my daily gesture drawings, but 80% of the photos are just fat americans.

What do you guys use for your gesture references?

>>6880597
My 4000 file folder

>>6879781
erhm OP literally made both images and he clearly can't draw

>>6880606
He drew them 25 years ago

>before I realized it I hadn't drawn in a week and a half
fug
Decided to draw a pose from memory I did a few weeks ago. Seems like I only really remembered the general position of the arms.
Also this new brush I'm trying is really nice. I used to only sketch with hard round black, but with this new one I can kind of "search" around for the right line without chicken scratching my shit up.

>>6880293
Well keep going and see where it ends up. Cute eye.
>>6880060
Wait, it's been about a decade since I looked at FWaP, but are you even folowing the method he teaches or are you just copying his heads and then drawing from memory? Why would you even do that to FWaP?

>>6880593
>Is this how you're supposed to study anatomy?
Probably not. Skin folds over bones is kind of a weird start.
I'd start with just the skeleton and apply a bit of construction to take in the proportions of each major group of bones.

For muscles, googling "muscle groups for artists" yields enough interesting results to copy and internalize.

well ok im getting a face here but not the face i was going for

how do I stop pushing the pencil so hard? I'm like 20 and I draw like a 3rd grader

>>6880622
Push less hard? How do you hold the pencil?

>just draw a circle inside a box to make the ribcage
Oh this actually works
Neat

>>6880212
How is it possible to go this long without learning anything?

/justdraw/ chads where we at

>>6880622
overhand grip, draw with arm not with wrist

>>6880716
one of many characters in my universe

>>6880716
I’m doing fine. Still a permaprebeg though.

Not sure what I wanted to do with this

>>6880889
you wanted to make a swastika but stopped at three quarters

>>6880894
So funny and original. Post it on /r9k.
>>6880889
Cool, soul.

>>6880897
>Cool, soul.
So funny and original. Post it on /r9k.

>>6880903
Sorry i exploded your asshole and head.
Inb4
>So funny and original. Post it on /r9k.
Zoomer, hehe.

>>6880213
Good to see you (almost) finish something.
Try a dark reddish or dark blueish for the shadows instead of black.
Legs are short on the kneeling chick.
Nippleballs chick's teeth shoulf be adjusted a bit. Looks like she has a bucktooth at first.
The arms on the blue demon look good but his torso is stiff. Might wanna adjust the pose a little.

>>6880213
Coomers are retarded...
/ic needs to be a blue board.

started this yesterday. Still figureing out the posing

>>6880911
>>So funny and original. Post it on /r9k.
>Zoomer, hehe.
summer is over bro what are you still doing here? shouldnt you be in school or some shit

>>6880944
NTA but you write like a 16 year old.

>>6880917
Don’t bother. He never listens to advice. That’s why he never improves.

>>6880944
See >>6880946

>>6880894
>>6880897
Here, I fixed it for you, anons.

>>6880940
Those arms and shoulders look fucked up anon. Do you have a reference?

Another day, another Burne Hogarth study, which I almost didn't do due to shoulder pain but I did it anyway...

I have decided I'll just do a few more pages, and then move onto Vlippu or Keys to Drawing.

>>6881005
No I need to find one. I usually just draw from imagination and use construction methods to try and work it out. But yeah the arms are proving difficult, and they ended up too small when I look at the size of her hands now. I always screw up proportion. I did set up some lighting reference for the head and face but I don't need that until the body is ready.

>>6881005
>>6881023
I might just try posing a daz model for ref.

Keys to drawing 3-C

I could spend days looking at this ref. Using charcoal + brush makes me feel like I'm painting. If this is drawing then no wonder it only takes 1 hour to learn to paint

>>6880711
To me it seems like a somewhat appealing cartoon style with a lot of nice stylized anatomical details, obviously better understanding than most /beg/s
I would ask what you find objectionable about the art (other than a bit of same-face) but I won't ask for a critique on someone else's behalf

After lots of malding and working on other dumb shit, I finally feel like I'm improving!

Turns out I was doing the krenz exercise wrong. Instead of focusing so much on accuracy, I was supposed to focus on capturing the general shape with the least amount of effort possible within an ok amount of accuracy (70%, however you define that as).

I managed to bang out 2 of them today in 4-5 hours instead of the entire day it used to take me just to get maybe a single one done.

>>6881183
>>6881185
Consider the frame part of the shapes.

how do I apply anatomy to boxes? do I just use the boxes as a guideline?

>>6881237
Boxes are a tool of analysis, showing you whcih sides are the front and back. Boxes are not good for practical drawing. Theyre literally just an aexercise for understanding

In real drawing, you would use bony landmarks in the place of boxes. The landmarks show you where the front, side, top, bottom, and back is of each part of the body. They substitute for the boxes. So in real drawing, you would lay in characteristic shapes for each part of the body, then lay jn the bony landmarks on top of that to give your forms good orientation. The characterstic shapes would be based on anatomy and yhe skeleton

>>6880977
ja heil

inktober toad on toad

>>6881183
What exercise is that? Looks like you are triangulating some hospital to bomb in the middle east.

What’s a good digital version for Peter Han’s dynamic sketching or should I just follow it digitally

>>6881328
just do it digitally unless you're tyring to practice with micron pens

>>6881320
check the krenz videos in /asg/

How to deal with laziness and procrastination?
I really like drawing, I really do. I feel really proud when i finish something but i can't finish a drawing for the life of me.

>>6881360
idk i never finish anything

>>6881183
Do you have any personal artwork or stuff you've made that you could share? I'm interested in how these exercises have helped you into your pieces.

A small forest bar

>>6880722
>overhand grip
Complete meme

okie doke, I lined it. might not color it though

Is drawing a self-portrait and in addition to it at least a few drawings of the very same original character to explore the figure, color theory and character design ideas daily for a prolonged period a good practice routine for a beginner, if one is not studying from a master's book at the moment? I heard about the advice that drawing the same subject, "Gestalt", daily will improve your overall skill and not just the knowledge of the chosen subject. Is there any merit to it or is it a fool's errand and varity makes the artist?

Month 2 Day 2-4 of learning, tried my hand at coloring/shading a reference piece for the first time

Didn't really do the skin and transparency of the shirt because I think that level of shading is too far above my skill level and I'd just be going in circles for hours

>>6881392
good job anon. Focusing on accuracy was a great decision on your part

>>6881392
Just try, play with saturation and slightly change the hue towards red.
Don’t wait till you feel ready, chances are you will never be. You gotta paint lots of shitty dead skin to reach attractive coom skin

>>6881360
read books and implement something. you need to make a system and manage yourself
here's some to get you started in order of how helpful they were for me

getting things done by david allen
solving the procrastination puzzle by timothy pychyl
tiny habits by bj fogg
the war of art by stephen pressfield
mastery by george leonard
5 second rule by mel robins
art and fear by david bayles and orland

>>6880467
you are one too if you recognize anything my fren

day 84
the background looks so amateurish, idk how to draw it better which isn't just autistically copying every line from the reference, how do i simplify plants and shit?

>>6881185
>>6881183
aesthetic copies
>>6880609
old is better bro im sorry
>>6880411
liu dongcheng?

>>6881372
comfy

Bros I have been only learning to draw in the last few months, but I'm scared to color my drawings and learning that. What is the best ressource on coloring?

>>6881478
copy color palettes from artists you admire

>>6881478
how can you be scared of coloring?
is someone pointing a gun at you and will pull the trigger if you mess up?

life's hard get a helmet

>>6881478
"Med's Map (Complete Edition) - Ahmed Aldoori" video course helped me a lot

this was quite mentally draining, felt like doing some kind of linear algebra (which it probably is kek)

an attempt to create an oc

Sup beg. The looming continues. I added green heads to stop the accusations that i just "copy" the heads from memory (in red), instead of actually constructing them. I hope this will please the relentless crabs.

>>6881504
very generic anime thot but very cute
>>6881503
this is one of the exercises in keys to drawing
>>6881478
less thinking, more coloring
>>6881421
most drawers cheat backgrounds by simply putting blur filter over them. simplifying patterns of plants is something what troubles me as well
>>6881389
drawing self-portrait is super common occurrence among old artists, practically ALL of them made at least a couple of them for practice. The main reason was because mirror was cheaper than hiring hooker to pose for you
>>6881386
anon this is like 3rd day you are working on this, how is that possible?
>>6881360
work habits
>>6881320
leveling, plumbing and other sight techniques to level up accuracy. keys to drawing teaches them all but it never tells you to draw the grid on the canvas, instead just imagine the lines in your head to get better at it without crutches
>>6881297
cute and original
>>6881237
squeeze the anatomy part into the box. pro perspective tip diagonals of square will show you where is center even when foreshortened. Then you can accurately map / foreshorten the anatomy piece in that box (provided you know where the middle of it is)
>>6881086
pretty good
>>6880634
that booba is super weak for coomer art, her hips connecting the waist is also very bad.
>>6880627
nice
>>6880593
start with figure drawing which is way easier than anatomy. but yeah, essentially you just draw and draw and draw and one day you just know. if you want to be hardcore you "copy" it from memory like i do now with loomis heads (the red ones)
>>6880486
PYW
>>6880411
better than mine heads
>>6880269
spilled water on tiles typically lets tiles be dry while the liquid flows in the canals between them. very cool drawing altogether
>>6880249
find style without cleanup?

What do you guys think about the lullaby land baby that I drew?

>>6881522
never seen a bigger waste of time and energy
try getting one head right instead of churning out a hundred turds.
there's no magic quota that you meet to be suddenly good

okay, I finally finished it. I feel like I fucked up his face a little but I'm too lazy to redraw it at this point. I'mma just move on to my next drawing now

new tablet arrived. very overkill but loving it so far, much easier to work with. feels cosy. came close to finishing the marvel copy yesterday but creeping proportion issues eventually made the exercise feel pointless. now heading back to keys to drawing for shorter exercises to train the initial plotting of points before attempting those detailed pieces. also lots of values.

>>6881522
your circles, at least at the start of fwap, should never end up larger than the head, since it's used to construct the upper half of the cranium. any additional forms should wrap around and on top of the sphere, like you're layering balls of clay on top of it. keep trying to visualise the forms, unreal commitment to this
>>6881504
looks good, love ur linework for some reason, something feels up with the leftmost leg's knee but i can't put my finger on it
>>6881421
they look fine to me but i'd say the issue is more compositional/gestural than the way it's specifically drawn. the tree trunks on the left somewhat awkwardly curve in and trap the eye in the top-left when they could instead all lead the eye back round towards the front of the car, as their leaves currently do. ideally the background should service the focus element, rather than exist as context alone
>>6881392
try it, worst that happens is you get good material in a few months to look back on and see your improvement

>>6881522
>>>6880411 (You)
>better than mine heads
nah bro, yours are way more based for being loomis, unironically
loomis, bridgeman combo = max gains

I love drawing even if i'm bad at it.

>>6881599
holy

PDF's arent really cutting it for me. Using thriftbooks & ebay, what are the best set of books you can get for 50$ (not inc shipping) for a nubeg

>>6879805
I don't think this is a genuine attempt

>>6881611
Get Bridgman and Loomis. Morpho maybe. Hampton definitely. Vilppu, hopefully.

>>6881614
>Bridgman
>Loomis
>Morpho
>Hampton(definitely)
>Vilppu
Just like the standard recommended beg book from each author?

>>6881612
Glad it got you thinking

I just want to draw porn, at the moment it looks terrible, I try to draw every day, but it’s still scary to start a new drawing.

>>6881642
Best way to get into the habit of doing something is to keep doing it until it becomes second nature. Also, when it comes to porn, it's a good idea to look into dynamic angles and learning how to squish meaty bits together. Also dynamism in movement. I won't comment on the witch-looking hag you drew, but I do like the detail on the dick.

>>6881621
basics are basics!

If you're sick and tired of that, find an art book with beautiful art you want to emulate, and make copies out of that

>>6881652
Oh, thanks a lot

>>6879433
issa lovely piece, anon

>>6880894
KEK

what do they call those lenses that were used all the time in older commercials?

>>6881754
fish eye lens?

>>6881757
Yes, thank you!

y'all love Terrytoons?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9XOvTW7YsQ

So this Terrytoons film is nearly 90.

>>6880220
very important tip before you go to your 2nd head
be mindful of the underlying cranium, it's like 80% of the head mass so ppl tend to underestimate how big it actually is, theres so much more subtilty to it than just a sphere on top of a face. Spend 30$ on a plastic medical skull or look up a model on sketchfab and practice drawing that, it's infinitely beneficial to know what the cranium looks like at dif angles.
nice structure btw anon, very clean

>>6881754
>Oct. 2nd
oh, NATIONAL SMARTIES® DAY, NATIONAL FRIED SCALLOPS DAY, NATIONAL PRODUCE MISTING DAY, and the INternational Day of Non-Violence !

>>6881539
please consider propping your drawing on an angled surface to avoid phone shadow

> I went grocery shopping at the usual store. I got mineral water and milk. The milk just has to be Cow Brand Milk. I have to allow myself at least this much luxury. And food for my precious fish, of course.

>>6881787
Hmm, interesting...

>>6881421
>old is better bro im sorry
Can you explain why? It's the hands, right? Those were a lot easier with the ref

Little Red Alter

>>6881729
Thank goodness you gave me a correction
I was just starting to color and I fixing won't be too hard.

This is my ref for Kita's pose. I don't think I need to overhaul it much. I just fixed the ass. But yeah, the hands and fingers were symbol drawn. I need to correct them asap

>>6881812
those fish feet tho

>>6881812
GL anon!

what do you call art you use for inspiration (not reference)? i get the feeling there's a less clunky term than that, but i can't remember what it is

>>6879400
Morpho pages 1-80. skipped some stuff because i would rather go in depth about it with other books, mostly the face. Fuck this book is long.

>>6881811
where did you learn how to render

>>6881867
in my parents' basement
sometimes they feed me snacks and it's nice

What a terrible face it turned out to be, crooked.

>>6880460
Spatial IQ decreasing by the second, I'm ngmi

Reject anime coom, embrace cars and bugs

Also some practice with eyes

its over for me bros i dont have any skill or motor control or the ability to turn a figure into simple shapes with correct proportions or anything
when does drawing get fun? feel like its time to give up

>>6879400
What happens if a complete beginner (no knowledge, no pre-existing techniques, barely knows how to hold a pencil) copies Bridgeman twice?

>>6881896
>when does drawing get fun?
If you don't have fun fucking around with no idea what you're doing then it will never be fun. It only gets more stressful as your talent and skill grows and there's actual stakes behind fucking up. It's not necessarily an impediment to making it. You can totally be a working artist who's miserable the entire time.

>>6881898
you'd be very good at drawing bridgeman, like that one dude who can draw simpsons real well

>>6881898
Don't do it, that's how you make chlorine gas

What anatomical mistakes i made?

i need to figure out how to colour with lots of layers like everybody does. I can't go with more than 5 layer before i lost at it.

What anatomical mistakes i made?

>>6881911
>how to colour with lots of layers like everybody does.
what makes you think more layers = better? lol

>>6881909
all of them anon, that's not even human

>>6881885
funny because ive seen somewhere isect girls attacking men in cars to amte with them, cant remember the original image

you sir/madam/it are a secret coomer into insect girls

Trying different brushes while learning / doodling.
Do you have a preference?

>>6881913
if youre planning on sculpting some ayylmaos, its pretty good
for humans, not so much, use references

>>6881929
you could tell me its all just 1 brush and id believe you, theres very little difference in brush and method

>>6881913
Very accurate model of someone undergoing crystal treatment

>>6881937
kek

>>6881904
>>6881907
This is sounding like it might not be a good idea somehow

damn i wish i could draw. shit would be cool

>>6881940
whats your end game? huh?
just copying bridgeman and flexing on all the \beg\s??

>>6881929
differences are slight but second-top-left with the sword wins for me

>>6881940
As a beginner you're not going to get anything out of it that you wouldn't just practicing drawing a wide variety of different things you find interesting and then you lose the benfit of beginning to build that visual library nefarious your so focused on one very specific thing.

>>6881946
>>6881958
joking aside, I'd like to 'waifu it up', both anime and not, but my lack of skills (and my poor anatomy) makes churning out one amateurish figure in medibang take 23.5 billion years - so practice slow. Bridgman appeals to me in a couple ways, copying the book instead of hunting references, the forms are clear, and I may gain some speed from not having to second-guess everything - that, and this meme from 2 threads ago. On the other hand, it's not pretty, and the end-goal isn't exactly becoming Bridgman photocopier per se.
Sorry for blog

>>6881982
do xiao wei chun

>>6882039
Got it, will try it - much thanks

>>6882039
>>6881982
no to morpho simplified forms it's what the japs use or taco point character drawing

>>6879458

>>6881982
then do it if you got the the time and grit, for me I've only copied his arms torso some years ago and still the knowledge remains helpful to this day.
Western Academic has all the foundation for making anime, the more you draw of both the more you Bridge the gap, so to speak..

>>6881877
>What a terrible face
That's far, far from the most terrible thing in that image.

>>6882088
True, but the other stuff looks intentionally horrifying

>>6879400
Drew a Kizaru
How badly did I fuck up lol

>>6882107
check your center line

>>6881612
>I don't think
You got that right

>>6881392
One of the best doujins I've ever read btw

How do I make the environment seem believable? she's supposed to be in this destroyed landscape but I don't know how to detail the buildings in the background and the pillars on the foreground look goofy. Is it a texture problem? are there any good resources to learning that stuff?

>>6881812
Why do jap artists always make futa dicks so discolored and disgusting

>>6882156
have you never seen a masculine girl dick?

>>6882127
Name?

>>6882167
futa =/= troon

>>6882170
sure it does, and if you think differently you're probably headed down that path anyways especially when its hentai. DRAW A BOY CALL IT A GIRL. tell me what the difference is and why you like futa but not the other

>>6882175
futa means both, two, paired

>>6882168
It's one of the Gal Mama ones by Sakura no Tomoru Hi e, don't know which one but they're all very similar and really good. Like this one 475845

I fear I am retarded, should I be drawing the upside-down Picasso drawing upside-down the way it's shown or should I draw it right side up

>>6882170
you can cope however you want you're still a fag at the end of the day

>>6882060
TACO is wonderful

>>6882088
is there something you don't like?

Any advice for drawing the pelvis?
Using a box works well for the perspective, but it‘s kinda hard to go from to to the actual anatomical shape.

>>6882220
Just make the box a better fit.

>>6882220
Bucket, just draw a cylinder that's wider at the top than at the bottom. If you're having a hard time with perspective, try drawing a box and carving it into a bucket. Also pay attention to the bony landmarks, the ilyac crest at the front and the ass triangle at the back

Wait, Bridgeman is bad for newcuties?
Finch says in its roadmaps you pretty much has to start with Bridgman.

>>6882250
Finch has been drawing so long he doesn't remember what a true beg can handle. It's pointless to start from zero with anatomy.

>>6882250
That's specifically from someone who was interesting in Western Comic style character design. If that's exactly what you want to do then yes, jumping into Bridgeman early is probably worthwhile. If you're starting from no-draw though I'd still recommend holding off on the Bridgman grind.

>>6882224
>>6882249
Will try that, thanks.

Point out to me the anatomical mistakes i made

>>6882283
ayy lmao

>>6882283
the truth is out there

>>6882289
new
>>6882289
>>6882289

>>6882283
I WANT TO BELIEVE

>>6882283
Too smooth, I feel like it's maybe a bit too narrow but maybe that's just my hand being wider

>>6881775
Thanks! I've been working with the Reilly rhythms mostly but I'm trying to use the Asaro head too to try and really get those defined planes.
The mask is still a bit tough for me though unfortunately

>>6881367
Unfortunately no, I don't have the confidence to anything original lol. I should force myself at some point, but I'm pretty content with just doing studies for now.

One interesting thing about the exercise though is that after you do the initial 15 minute sketch, you're supposed to try to do the same sketch but without the reference to see how much you recall the shapes and proportions and to build up your visual library.

How do I improve the composition of this?

>>6879400
anything you think is wrong with my drawing you can thing of please.
I will simply explain that the arms are supposed to be mechanical/prosthetics
But go off.
Anything you dont like about it. I want feedback.

>>6879464
is that a god damn teenager?

Thinking about scrapping this one and starting over