/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>6868419
Save your time and money. Travel instead and then off yourself.

>6868419
How many fucking times do you have to make this thread?
Do not engage with op, he is a worthless loser that wants you to feel bad for him. He does not give a fuck about anything you tell him and will make 7000 excuses to try to make himself seem as pathetic and worthless as possible.
He probably has a humiliation/degradation fetish. Do not give him (you)s. Let his shit thread die.

>>6868419
this is not funny anymore anon

>>6868426
>>6868430
That's because I have fucking ADHD and can't learn for shit, and can't break down complicated tasks. My autism makes me visually over stimulated and unable to comprehend basic shit. This is the only thing I can actually see myself doing outside of writing. Is it really too big of an expectation to do literally anything other than sitting my room, jerk off and go to sleep? Is that too big of an expectation to set for myself? Especially after 6 years of wanting to do it and never having done it?

>6868433
Your other thread is still up you dumb piece of shit.

>>6868419
>I tried learning Source Filmmaker as a teen and I gave up immediately because it looked too complicated. I tried learning how to make my own games in game maker, gave up immediately and never touched it. EVEN something like drawing just looks so complex and impossible.
>EVEN
Anon... Source Filmaker or GameMaker in comparison to drawing are jokes

>>6868438
I don't give a shit.

>6868444
Fuck yourself you spamming retard.

>>6868419
You've had six years to off yourself and still didn't succeed at it. You're worthless and incapable of doing anything worthwhile.

>>6868443
I've gotten nowhere with anything else I've ever wanted to do. Even drawing looks fucking and daunting and impossible. I do legitimately nothing all day and merely sit around, look at my phone, jerk off and go to sleep. I don't play video games, I don't have hobbies, I don't have friend groups to be in. And the few friends I do have are all improving while I'm doing nothing and can't improve. It's not fucking fair that I have to go through life like this

>>6868450
No, fuck you. I'm trying to learn how to draw on a fucking board for drawing. I'm using the board for its fucking intended purpose.

>6868459
go bump your other thread that already exists and presumably already has the same advice you'll get in this thread, the same advice you got the last thread, and the same advice you got in the last 15 times you made this trash.
Fuck off.

step 1.) go to therapy
step 2.) >>>/adv/
step 3.) don't come back here until you've made progress
step 4.) just draw
step 5.) just draw
step 6.) just draw
step 7.) just draw
step 8.) goto step 4

>>6868463
I'm already seeing a psychiatrist and it hasn't done jack shit.

>>6868457
From nothing comes nothing. It's completely fair. It's what you worked for.

>>6868462
>"Advice" like "Just draw" even though the obvious problem is with executive dysfunction.
>"Advice" like "Lol ur brain damaged!"
>"Advice" like "Give up lol"
Fuck off.

>>6868419
Stop spamming and just kill yourself already. You are never going to make it.

>>6868486
Yep, might as well get right on with it if this is the case for literally everything I try doing ever.

>6868469
>6868457
>6868433
i'm neurotypical so may help or not at all, look help outside here
I used to have clinical depression and also had a lupus episode that gave a brain fog pretty strong to barely do stuff like doodling or understand what people told me at the time. this shit takes a lot of time (took me like years start treating and curing the depression, lupus is chronical but can be controlled)

look for changing your habits, don't use your phone that much give it a screen time setup, go outside, dunno if you keep living with your parents but talk to them, look out for irl support groups. not ironically doing other stuff helps drawing better.

but for real, don't ask help here. because nobody can help you cope with your specific problems, nodoby is a medic here.

>>6868419
have you tried drawing things that you are passionate about?

>>6868493
Yes and I can't even get myself to start.

>>6868506
Insert your blue haired waifu here. Get to work

>>6868510
I don't know how to work any image editing software.

>>6868515
Google it. You actually expect me to believe your horseshit despite the fact that you somehow made it to this website? Thank god you can't work such basic shit otherwise we'd have even more school shootings.

>>6868522
i feel bad for this guy honestly
gave him advice from experience of brain fog and he didn't reply or something
maybe we should stop engaging like >>6868426 said

>>6868522
stop feeding the troll. He does not care. His goal is to spam the board and get sympathy points. He has this exact thread already up and is actively bumping it as well.

>>6868522
Getting to this website is a lot simpler than working image editing software you fucktard.

>>6868530
>>6868528
I wouldn't be making these threads if I secretly didn't want to do this. I want to fucking do this. Stop with this pseudo intellectualizing bullshit and attempts at psycho analysis because you don't have any actual advice to give me.

>>6868463
therapy won't cure autism

>>6868528
>>6868530
I am going to feed him because his lolcow utters grow larger everyday.
>>6868532
It's like I'm watching a Chris Chan grow up, only he still doesn't do art. How poor.

>6868532
post your address, I'll drive to your house and duct tape a pencil to your hand and move your hand for you. That's the only way you will ever do anything.
you don't give a shot about any advice people give, you just come up with another excuse every time anyone says anything.

Look for changing your habits, don't use your phone that much give it a screen time setup, go outside, look out for irl support groups. not ironically doing other stuff helps drawing better.
also fuck you.

>>6868543
>>6868537
>"Omg he's such a lolcow because he's using this board for its intended purpose!"

>>6868537
based lolcow enjoyer.

>6868547
no bitch nigger, this board is not for a retard that refuses to take advice and refuses to even draw, it's for artwork and critique.

>>6868547
No he's not. He's whining and being autistic. He's a genuinely obtuse person. There are people more autistic than him that draw. He has some other form of lolcow disease.

SAN SALVADOR SAN SALVADOR

>>6868547
https://archived.moe/ic/thread/6816551/#6816551
https://archived.moe/ic/thread/6805631/#6805631
https://archived.moe/ic/thread/6797986/#6797986
https://archived.moe/ic/thread/6780914/#6782270
https://archived.moe/ic/thread/6780914/#6780914

>>6868559
>>6868555
>>6868557
>OMG, HE'S USING AN ART BOARD TO HELP HIMSELF LEARN ART!
Shut the fuck up you whiny cunts. There's no actual precedence to call him a lolcow.

>>6868567
>he
>him

>>6868567
he's not. He isn't trying to learn anything. He's posted this thread a bare minimum of 8 times now, and ignores all advice anyone gives.

>>6868573
also I know full well "he" is (you).
Just skip ahead a year and kill yourself.

>>6868573
>Very clearly explains that he has ADHD and can't do a lot of the advice that people are offering him because of that.
>"You're just rejecting all advice!!!"

>>6868510
seconding this.

>>6868575
retarded bitch, people have given (you) endless advice from every possible angle for every type of mental incapacity. mods are useless fucking morons that won't delete this duplicate thread, but seriously, just end your life already.

>>6868583
No, they haven't. Please actually show me the advice that people have given because I would have taken it by now.

>>6868575
did you see how many times op made this very same thread before?

try go to a hospital, there you won't have a smartphone and the internet, just a pencil and a paper (if you'll be good) for a few weeks or months
t. schizo who was there and drew for 8+- hours a day

>>6868593
Here you go
>>6868559

Skim through these 5 threads, and the other thread that's currently up
:)

>>6868602
>Go get therapy
Seeing a psychiatrist and none of my medicine changes are making any difference.
>Lol just draw, even though the problem is clearly with executive dysfunction
>Lol you're brain damaged
>Lol you're NGMI
That about sums up those 5 threads.

>6868606
no it doesn't. Go through every post.

>>6868599
Block YouTube?
Then I'll scroll on Twitter
Block Twitter?
Then I'll go on discord
Block discord?
Then I'll just sit and stare at a wall doing nothing.
There's nothing that will make me more motivated to actually draw and be productive.

>>6868608
Then don't do it. You seem to be pretty good at not drawing. The only thing you seem to be good at.

>>6868608
>There's nothing that will make me more motivated to actually draw and be productive.
so kill yourself.

>>6868607
You call this "advice"?

>>6868609
>>6868610
Then you might as well say I have no interest in doing any hobbies at all, because I can't do anything. I do legitimately nothing all day and merely sit around, look at my phone, jerk off and go to sleep. I don't play video games, I don't have hobbies, I don't have friend groups to be in. It's someting called ADHD and depression.

>>6868616
Make suicide your hobby. You should dive right in instead of waiting. Your life sounds like pain. Time to end it.

>>6868617
Another amazing example of the so called "Advice" I've been given through these threads.

>>6868618
It's the only one that might yield results, don't you think?

>>6868616
>>6868608

i insist you keep seeing your therapist, change habits and taking your meds. takes time, sometimes years, but you can overcome your problems

>>6868419
You're not autistic, you can communicate and have workable motor functions. You just have burned out dopamine receptors, are lazy, and have never learned to develop proper habits.

For the moment, completely forget learning how to draw, source filmmaker, or any other daunting task. Don't bitch and moan about it, and don't give yourself an ultimatum because when you fail you'll feel worse and an hero.

Instead solely train on learning to develop habits. Start with the most easy, dumb (but benign) habit imaginable. One even an actual retard could follow through on. Making the same post every day to /b/ for three months for example.

After you've demonstrated to yourself that you can follow through on a retard-tier, but harmless habit like making a post every day, gradually introduce harder habits. Do 5, or even 1 pushup every day, so long as you do it every day. Start intermittent fasting every day, not eating till noon. Draw every day, even if it's just a shitty doodle. Turn your phone off for an hour every day, then two, then three.

Once you've spent a good 6+ months consciously following through with the same habits, and building them up, then take on something bigger like Source Filmmaker.

>>6868623
This has been going on since was 12. I'm 24 now.

>>6868625
There's no hope for you. You are worthless. You can't do it.

>>6868624
I was literally diagnosed autistic which is how I was able to go to a pediatrician to get medicine, same with my ADHD. Don't attempt this retarded armchair psychology.

>>6868611
every post, bitch.

>>6868629
I gave you good advice on starting with habits even you can manage. If you're just here to complain but not improve yourself, then don't bother.

>>6868629
We need to see your full medical documents to be able to give you helpful advice. We can't just play armchair advisors here.

>>6868632
Based on an armchair psychology bullshit of "Lol you're not actually autistic even though you display all the symptoms and you're formally diagnosed with it!" Why should I listen to you beyond that?

>>6868624
>Instead solely train on learning to develop habits. Start with the most easy, dumb (but benign) habit imaginable. One even an actual retard could follow through on. Making the same post every day to /b/ for three months for example.
>After you've demonstrated to yourself that you can follow through on a retard-tier, but harmless habit like making a post every day, gradually introduce harder habits. Do 5, or even 1 pushup every day, so long as you do it every day. Start intermittent fasting every day, not eating till noon. Draw every day, even if it's just a shitty doodle. Turn your phone off for an hour every day, then two, then three.


I literally do a 20 minute fullbody exercise every other day and I've lost 20 pounds over the last 3 years. And it still hasn't worked on making me want to do art or anything else at all any more than before.

>>6868632
>If you're just here to complain but not improve yourself, then don't bother
Nigger this is what was said in the 2nd post in this thread. Op had been doing this for months.

>>6868638
>And it still hasn't worked on making me want to do art
If you don't want to make art then why are you on the art board making threads?

>>6868635
Because I have family that's actually autistic, nonverbal, heavily degraded motor development. You're fine in comparison.

>>6868638
If you don't want to do art, then don't do it. But at least practice turning your phone off for 10, 30, 60 minutes so you're not a dopamine slave.

>>6868640
If I didn't want to make art then I wouldn't be posting here. I can't do anything even after I work out. I still just lay down, look at my phone, jerk off and go to sleep. Rinse and repeat for 12 FUCKING YEARS.
>>6868642
There are different levels of autism, you do know that, correct?

>>6868419
>What are some guides I should follow?
Does it matter when the only thing you're seemingly capable of doing is coming here to whinge about not being able to do anything?

>>6868625
i've been depressed since 8 or 9 years old and 2 suicide attempts, got cured trough meds and therapy years after (i've started during my 11s i'm almost 25 now) and most part came from spite because i kinda hated being called by my family members as the one "playing victim" or "lol your not trying"
this is a bitch ass world and you need to stand up for yourself and prove others wrong about the assumptions they made about you.
no one can save you, only (you) can!

>>6868647
If you did want to make art you wouldn't say
>And it still hasn't worked on making me want to do art

>>6868647
Like I said, the only way anyone will ever be able to help you is if you post your address and an anon tapes a pencil in your hand and moves your hand for you to draw.

>>6868652
Because that's correct. I don't have any motivation to do artwork. Just like how I don't have any motivation to do literally anything, period.

>>6868650
Tell me what the fuck to do then. A higher dosage of adderall, anti anxiety medication making me shake less and another anti anxiety medications. This is on top of a booster dosage I'm taking each day too. My mind and my body locks up and prevents me from actually doing anything. Usually either out of anxiety or my mind and my body simply just locking up and telling me "What the fucks the point"? And just making me look back at my phone again or just stimming and staring at a wall.

Legitimately NOTHING has worked. I felt better for a week and then nothing. This has gone back all the way since I was a teenager too. I had thyroid problems that got fixed, but this never got any better.

I don't know how to get the motivation to do anything. Even when I do happen to try my hardest in doing something, it's always half as good or even just 2% as good as anybody else doing the same thing, because me being purely retarded and unable to learn or focus. Even when I try, nothing good happens. My entire body feels sore and I rest for the whole day. I've been working out for 2 years and lost 20 pounds as well.

So tell me, what the fuck should I do?

>>6868655
Then if you have no motivation to do anything there's no advise that will help you to do anything. This thread is moot.

>>6868647
>>6868650
>depressed since 8 or 9
>meds since 11
Ah, you've got shitty parents and were mindbroken by the system as a kid. No 11 year old has any business being depressed or having their brain fried by meds. Try to save what's left, forget the art for now, practice turning off your phone, spend a few years tapering off adderall.

>>6868659
Fuck no, a higher dosage will just fry what little is left of your brain.

>>6868655
Motivate yourself to jump off a roof.

>>6868659
Do you have parks or forests? Leave the phone at home and go outside.

>>6868655
If there is no motivation in you then why do you want advice from us if you will not follow any of it because you lack the motivation to? What's your goal with the thread?

>15 posters
>84 replies
Get a discord room faggots.

>>6868667
>What's your goal with the thread?
>>6868426
>He does not give a fuck about anything you tell him and will make 7000 excuses to try to make himself seem as pathetic and worthless as possible.
>He probably has a humiliation/degradation fetish

>>6868666
I've taken walks over the summer, and the summer before that and the summer before that to get inspiration. I've got forests and trees surrounding me.

Got a bunch of inspiration. Still can't do anything. Can't motivate myself and can't work on anything. Took a vacation last year out of my state. Still couldn't do anything.

>>6868667
To learn how to get fucking motivated.

>>6868668
>16 posters now
Hehe, gottem!

>>6868672
This is not a board for motivational help. Especially not if you lack the motivation to take advice to get motivated.

>>6868672
this is an art board, not a self help board for depressed autistic quadriplegic adhd schizophrenic lepers with rickets.

>>6868659
Also try diet, probiotics, cutting out sugar, dairy, and gluten. A lot of milder cases of autism are diet related, a sort of allergy that fucks up your brain.

>>6868671
Turn the phone off now. There's no magic thing you can do to fix it overnight. It's a long grind of putting the phone down, fixing your diet, tapering off meds, going outside every day. You were fucked as a kid, but there's still things you can do to salvage yourself.

In case anyone thinks op is genuine at all, he literally just copy pastes his own posts from previous threads
>>6868608
He wants attention. Nothing else.

>>6868688
>"He's a schizo because he copypastes posts that explain his situation."

>>6868691
This is not a board for motivational help. Especially not if you lack the motivation to take advice to get motivated.

>>6868693
>Complains about copy pasting posts
>Proceeds to copy paste posts.

>>6868696
>ignores the advice to seek advice where you could get actual advice

>>6868696
This is not a board for motivational help. Especially not if you lack the motivation to take advice to get motivated.

>>6868696
this is an art board, not a self help board for depressed autistic quadriplegic adhd schizophrenic lepers with rickets.

>>6868679
I've already cut out most sugar and dairy from my diet.

My psychiatrist recommended that I stay on the meds.
I tried tapering off my anxiety meds, going little by little. I nearly went insane from panic and anxiety that made me go back on them again. Tried tapering off my adderall a little and it made me feel shitty and lazy from the withdrawals.

>>6868706
This is not a board for motivational help. Especially not if you lack the motivation to take advice to get motivated.

>>6868706
Not art related. This is not a board for motivational help.

>>6868696
This is not a board for motivational help. Especially not if you lack the motivation to take advice to get motivated.

Report for spam and move on guys, being banned will unironically help him by giving him one less resource to procrastinate with.

>>6868719
If I block everything I will just stare at a wall.

>>6868720
Don't (you) me faggot I don't care

>>6868720
This is not a board for motivational help. This is an art board.

>>6868725
Motivation to do art and learn how to do it.

>>6868728
You don't want to do art or anything:
>There's nothing that will make me more motivated to actually draw and be productive.
This is not a board for motivational help. This is an art board.

>>6868732
I'm seeking motivation for doing art and learning how to do art, on art board.

>>6868735
>There's nothing that will make me more motivated to actually draw and be productive.
There's nothing that will make you more motivated and make you do art.

>>6868741
Well yeah if you aren't willing to help

>>6868744
If you aren't motivated there's nothing that will make you more motivated and make you do art.

>>6868745
Refer to this post
>>6868616

>>6868748
If you have no interest to do anything at all there's nothing that will make you more motivated and make you do art.

>>6868744
The absolute gall to say that after 7+ threads. Be a man and suffer alone OP, don't drag others into your personal hell.

>>6868749
Refer to this post
>>6868744

>>6868744
Prove to us you're willing to get help from us.

>>6868753
7+ threads of people calling me a liar, saying I'm braindead or saying I should kill myself?

>>6868760
Refer to this post
>>6868757

>>6868757
Post help then.

>>6868756
You say you have no interests and no motivation then you also have no interest to act or take any advice because you lack the motivation and the interest.

>>6868763
Refer to this post
>>6868559

>>6868744
You're just going to keep saying you can't do anything so there's nothing anyone here can do to help you.

>>6868757
>>6868764
>>6868768
Then post help. I've already elaborated on my situation a million times over. Stop copy pasting everything I'm saying in hope the thread dies sooner. If you do, I'll report your posts.

>>6868770
This is not a board for motivational help. Especially not if you lack the motivation to take advice to get motivated.

>>6868770
>Announcing a report while also being a spammer

>>6868770
And we posted help and you said you couldn't do any of that. It's circular. This is not a board for motivational help. Especially not if you lack the motivation to take advice to get motivated.

>>6868773
I've very clearly explained why I can't take some of the advice you give me over and over and over again. Give me advice that works.

>>6868419
>I have ADHD and I'm autistic
Stfu and draw you fucking nigger, who the fuck cares about you?

>>6868777
You are physically unable to get help from us. This is not a board for motivational help. This is an art board.

>>6868777
hi sir have you tried proompting?

>>6868777
>Give me advice that works.
There is no advice that will work for you because you're a selfish do nothing retard.

>>6868779
I'm looking for motivation to do art. Therefore it qualifies as an art related thread.

>>6868777
Try Reddit. You have knack for using a keyboard so that won't be very hard.

>>6868784
Your troubles are not art but all your hobbies and anything you do.

>>6868784
>I'm looking for motivation to do art. Therefore it qualifies as an art related thread.

>>6868784
this is gonna sound weird op, but have you tried making pizza from scratch before?

>>6868786
And it just so happens that one of them is art which I want to learn how to do.

>>6868789
You lack the motivation to learn it. You lack the motivation to do anything. This is not a board for motivational help. This is an art board.

>>6868789
>And it just so happens that one of them is art which I want to learn how to do.

>>6868790
Question. What am I asking for help with?

>>6868793
>Question. What am I asking for help with?

>>6868794
Kek
>>6868793
Kys

>>6868793
>And it still hasn't worked on making me want to do art
>There's nothing that will make me more motivated to actually draw and be productive.

>>6868793
Motivation, which this is not a board for.

>>6868800
Motivation to do what?

>>6868802
To kys

>>6868802
>Motivation to do what?

>>6868802
Motivation to fix your motivational troubles. You are not motivated to do anything, amond which is art. But your main problem is that you can't do anything.

>>6868807
Art, correct. And I'm asking you this on an artwork board. Therefore it is artwork related.

>>6868780

>>6868808
Art is a subset of your main problem. You can't glue on a sawed off branch if the entire tree is missing.

>>6868808
>Art, correct. And I'm asking you this on an artwork board. Therefore it is artwork related.

Closed this thread 50 minutes ago to go draw. Did a study of a Bargue plate. Gonna do another in 5 minutes. Just draw OP, close this thread and go do it. It's not hard.

>>6868810
Sir try proompting I think it might work sir

>OP when he's had enough of staring at a wall

>>6868819
Kek

>>6868819
>>6868814
>>6868810
And you're calling me the schizo?

>>6868821
SAN SALVADOR
SAN SALVADOR

>>6868821
>And you're calling me the schizo?

>>6868821
Art is a subset of your main problem. You can't glue on a sawed off branch if the entire tree is missing.

Try drawing pic related OP let's see what you're made of

>>6868826
You argued with me that my post wasn't art related. What I need help with is art related. Therefore it is an art related post

>>6868419
>I'm gay, with AIDS. I can't afford antiretroviral therapy to get better at all or even come up with an insurance company that will cover me and end up going back to taking pozzed loads bareback while waiting for death.

>>6868834
Art is a subset of your main problem. You can't glue on a sawed off branch if the entire tree is missing. Your art can't be helped if you don't change first. This is not a board for life change. This is an art board.

>>6868419
the issue is your brain rejecting your body, you need to transition to become the true yourself and the life will be a dream

>>6868838
You argued with me that my post wasn't art related. What I need help with is art related. Therefore it is an art related post

>>6868847
you need help with motivation, which this is not a board for.

>>6868848
Stop giving him the dopamine hit

>OP when his wall is right there

>>6868847
To help you with your art your larger problem needs to be fixed first. This is not a board to fix larger problems.

Bump limit? Halfway there baby

>>6868853
You argued with me that my post wasn't art related. What I need help with is art related. Therefore it is an art related post