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>makes the best system for teaching oil painting ever made
>record and post EVERYTHING FOR FREE on YouTube
Nothing Personal, NMA.

>> No.6861018

Would you mind to share the name?

>> No.6861019

>>6861018
File name

>> No.6861024

>>6861014
Which videos should I watch

>> No.6861030
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Good riddance. I couldn't understand Charles Hu's thick ass accent anyways.

>> No.6861036
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>>6861024
You can go to the official website and follow these steps.

https://www.drawmixpaint.com/

As for the YouTube videos, literally all of them are useful and you can simply watch them from the oldest to the current ones, but these three below summarize the objective of the course: gaining precision when painting tones and colors.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNB3XY67Q-I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeyYXMl934g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRewRXX7H6s

>"b-but this system is very slow and boring, and I don't want to premix the colors every time I paint"
He himself says it's a teaching method, he doesn't expect you to paint like that all the time. He doesn't do this himself in the demonstration videos.

>> No.6861038

>>6861036
does he teach principles of drawing and painting that apply to all mediums, or is it all oil paint?

>> No.6861040

>>6861036
Thanks I was about to get into painting

>> No.6861049

>>6861038
I believe that what he teaches can be easily applied to acrylics. I'm not sure if it works 100% in watercolor or gouache.

>> No.6861060

>>6861049
I assume he means does he cover art fundamentals, or is it more of a focus on the mechanical techniques of painting in particular.

>> No.6861071

>>6861060
Well, 80% of what he teaches is strongly correlated to the course. But there are videos on how to draw the model on the canvas, how to correct colors, how to identify wrong tones, how to paint in a loose style and other things that anyone can apply to what they do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZ0y4MiM-pc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHdxt2wUuvo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLjzEmP4534
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_R_Hg3js8AM

>> No.6861108

Does anyone have his paid videos?

>> No.6861115

Who?

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>>6861014
>record and post EVERYTHING FOR FREE on YouTube
Based, thanks for share.
>>6861115
https://www.markcarder.com/

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>> No.6861269

>>6861121
> dedicate your life to painting just to end up painting a war criminal who becomes more famous for his own shitty ass paintings than you ever will

>> No.6861271

>>6861038
it's not even principles of oil painting. it's principles for a particular way of oil painting.

>> No.6861291

hate these bearded slow talking youtube art guru

>> No.6861298

>>6861269
GWB was/is based.

>> No.6861300

>>6861271
>>6861271
damn, sounds pretty useless then

>> No.6861365

>>6861291
Yeah they should replace him with some retarded zoomer and do jump cuts every 0.2 seconds.
Lay off the Adderall.

>> No.6861385

*looks at his art* nope thanks

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>>6861385
?

>> No.6861495

>>6861385
>>6861494
His landscapes are muddy grimness, to be honest.

>> No.6861522

>>6861271
>>6861300
Oil painting is a vast subject. His approach is reasonable from a pedagogical point of view. You just need, as always, to have enough balls and strength of character to go beyond what you're being taught.

And this is applicable to other opaque mediums too;with a few tweaks you can make it work with watercolor too actually.

I say this as someone who don't particularly enjoy his approach artistically, but from a teaching standpoint, it's good enough.

>>6861269
From a business perspective: >>6861183

>> No.6861533

>>6861365
how about just be normal. i swear every mediocre painter past the age of 45 adopts the guru persona

>> No.6861540

>>6861036
i like how he tells you he gets no enjoyment out of his work despite the countless amount of effort hes put in, just a fucking golem put on this earth to paint kitchenware

>> No.6861570

>>6861036
>and I don't want to premix the colors every time I paint
What else would you do, blend on the canvas?

>> No.6861619 [DELETED] 

>>6861540
it's even less meaningless than kitchenware when you realize the subject is not even kitchenware at all but alla prima painting. it's painting about painting. kitchenware is the medium. painting is the subject

>> No.6861620

>>6861540
it's even more meaningless than kitchenware when you realize the subject is not even kitchenware at all but alla prima painting. it's painting about painting. kitchenware is the medium. painting is the subject

>> No.6861627

>>6861365
Yes and ironically

>> No.6863342

>>6861522
most teaching is good enough because it's better than doing nothing, but there's also a lot of information that you need to actively question against your own goals.

>> No.6863382

>>6863342
>most teaching is good enough because it's better than doing nothing
Yes, but his in particular can help a beginner develop a systematic way to make okay looking paintings. He's removing vast amount of complexity from oil paint handling, which allows him to focus on a few core aspects, mandatory to make decent observational studies/copies.

For beginners who know little, it's effective: they just have to learn the recipe and apply it step by step.

> but there's also a lot of information that you need to actively question against your own goals.
I (honestly) don't understand what you mean by this.

>> No.6864120

>>6863382
he's very focused on the loose style of american realism in which he ventures more into specifics particular for it, beyond just core aspects, on top of his own personal painting quirks. so while there are some information that are broadly useful, one would also have to sit through him meandering off about sargent, clove oil, brushwork, not blending, and laying in darkest colors first. topics which are not relevant to me and a lot of painters. of course, that's inevitable for any teacher. it's that or something like a guy talking about rembrandt, chalk, impasto, and apelles palette.

>> No.6864129

>>6861269
this is something somewhat related
>dedicate your life to art, practicing all fundamentals to sublime heights just to end up making boss baby concept art and movie slop for the month or furry diaper porn
they must be proud

>> No.6864137

His methods for teaching observational painting work. Anyone who paints alla prima will attest to that.
And obviously you can apply this method to more than just still life painting, you sad fucking golems.

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>>6864137
The problem with exclusively painting in his way is that you see the world like this (pic rel) instead of anything joyous. His landscapes are as bursting with life, as his face and voice.

>> No.6864369

>>6864137
your color checker is useless when painting from imagination.

>> No.6864380

>>6864346
>>6864369
>hey this method is kinda good
>BUT IF YOU USE ONLY THIS METHOD EXCLUSIVELY IT IS BAD LOL CHECKMATE

>> No.6864406

>>6864380
portraiture and landscapes (when using his method) might as well be still lives, so it technically applies to more than still lives, but not much more. and his still lives are still his stronger paintings.

>> No.6864484

>>6861271
>I prefer learning every single way to paint all at the same time
Studying individual methods one after the other can be very useful.

>> No.6864572

Hey sorry guys, Mark Carder here. I'm currently working on a new oil painting system that can and should be learned by any and everyone who wants to learn how to paint, realists, impressionists, and illustrators alike, and will serve them for their entire artistic career with no need for studying another system. I hope to have this one out on my free youtube account by the end of the year. Thanks, keep painting.

>> No.6864574

>>6864346
>>6861271
>>6861300
>>6861385
>>6861495

His style is perfect for learning, because it's straightforward, and isn't distractingly dazzling. If you can look at it and say "Well even I can do that!" then it has done its job. Do it, and then use the knowledge you gained by doing it to paint the thing you wanted to paint in your style.

>> No.6864578

But hey if you guys have a recommendation for a youtube channel of a guy who teaches practical information on how to have a revolutionary style and heartfelt expression, feel free to post.

>> No.6864602

>>6864484
to be clear, it's not meant to be a dig at him specifically. i just think it's a misconception that there's a principle or fundamental of oil painting as such. you can find it useful or not. if there was someone who was teaching the layered approach in a simplified, concise way that is backed up by the properties of the materials and history, i also wouldn't call it the principle of oil painting.

>> No.6864604

>>6864574
Gayer detected.

>> No.6864672

>>6864120
Yup, that's kinda the idea: if you want to teach things efficiently, you need some sort of system that your students can always refer to.

It's like using a limited palette: the good thing about the limited part of thing is that your options to mix a color are also limited, so it's "easy" to find your way.

But as an *artist*, not as a student, the rules and the need are different.

>>6864346
The effect of light is okay, very moody. It probably looks better in person.

>> No.6865451

Unless you're getting one-on-one lessons tailored to what it is you wanted to paint, a full breakdown of how and why someone else did it is the very best you are going to get.