/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

I've enjoyed watching your drawings get 5% less vague and esoteric every month, I feel like they are finally coming alive

>>6846843
>If it's really important
no. there are plenty of masters who dont use perfect lines both in their drawings and or paintings. but it should also be said that they probably still are capable of drawing them (if they wanted).

I would argue the only "medium" where clean lines matter are hand made animations and comics, mostly from korea and japan.
>how do you learn this
practice, practice, practice, practice, some drawing and doodling and shitton of practice.

These would be great if done on actual paper.

>>6846919
actually they are more esoteric than ever, I don't post them

>>6846931
Specifically circles for pupils and eyes, how do I train myself to do them non crooked?

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>>6846919
It's performance art. Eventually he will post an actual, detailed piece. I wouldn't be surprised if he has one finished already

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based Nicolaides studyer

>>6846843
Pixel Ai faggot get the fuck out from /ic.

>>6846843
yeah i would think being able to draw the way you want to without cope would be imporant

>>6850354
that's not ai, he's just better than you

>>6850358
Ai pixel faggot you as far from my skill as moon from your basement- unreachable.

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>>6850360
He was doing it before AI art newfag

Depends on what your doing I say for building and architecture it's more so

>>6846843
There is nothing more important anon. Draw nothing but lines and circles, ever.

https://youtu.be/0awyJhripy8?si=vHq5G70gPbO-yKdg

these are really cool schizo, post moar

>>6850354
>>/ic/thread/4813712#p4827445
oldest thread I could find from him but this guy it's been here since even more before 2018
I'm kinda realizing this schizo rarely or never repost their own art. That's cool.

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>>6856032
you're getting so much better at this, I'm proud of you

>>6846843
>If it's really important how do you learn this?
Mileage. Thousands of hours of practice and repetition.

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>>6846843
It's important to me because I draw tiny and exaggerate through linework, and ink likes to fuck your shit up if you do that.

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hoping seeing more of your stuff, pixel art mate!

>>6846843
I've never seen you draw a landscape

were you inspired by metal gear game covers, anon?

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Its ai

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>>6846843

Rulers and compasses exist for a reason, ANON. Being able to draw perfectly straight lines or perfect circles is a parlor trick.

whats this art style called?

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>>6846843
Can you write the alphabet? Let me see your handwriting.

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no way this is ai right? i wanna find hope
i'm also a linework-let, the more i practice the worse it gets, and even my peer's favorite "drawings" from me are always my chicken scratches i go ultra instinct on composition and everything else...not focusing on line perfection allows my whole creativity to explode

>>6878698
>bad at linework
>good at composition
Have you tried painting?

>>6878706
>Have you tried painting?
nope but i really need to, i learned a lot of color theory during design classes though so i'm an idiot for starting yet
this is a very quick (like 15 mins) "doodle" i did on CSP while watching eva rebuild with some of my classmates, didnt even use the eraser properly kek
i find it impossible to replicate by sitting down and trying to draw the actual eva with perfect linework though, my brain PREFERS the chaos for some reason

>>6873896
Gestural Inkderangement

>>6878717
I seriously recommend that you try painting. You seem to have a good grasp on overall shapes - I say skip trying to improve linework and start working on rendering.

>>6878788
thanks, that's very nice of you
where would you recommend starting to paint at? i've heard great things about procreate bc of simplicity and brush engine that helps painting styles mostly?
or does it really not matter at all

>>6878859
forgot to mention: if a great and simple alternative for PC exists i'd like to know about that mostly

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If you already have an iPad, Procreate is a one-time purchase and has a lot of features designed for digital painting and illustration. If you don't already have an iPad, though, probably not worth buying the iPad just for one software.

For PC: photoshop is an industry standard but I hesitate to recommend it since it's not built around painting. I definitely don't recommend paying for it. Krita is designed for artists and is free but I've never actually used it before.
I've used CSP and Corel Painter, but I found both of them to be difficult - I can't tell if I just can't find the features I'm looking for sometimes or if the programs just don't have them.

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most of these look really cool but I also don't understand what the fuck I'm looking at

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>>6850354
ESLsir...

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>>6892796
I really like this one

>>6894279
Really?

Lines are wonky and wobbly, yet if I max out stabilization and draw perfectly smooth lines, it looks even worse

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I like all of these. As a first step,rough drawing will save you time and work later on when you find a design that is worthy of high definition attention. Here I was reimagining the first pages of a long story, blocking out the scene,background here and text there,and I will probably redraw this a few more times and pick the best version. Expand upon the best of your posts and refine it.

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mfw i read the thread topic and wanted to read serious replies not realizing it was a schizbro thread

>>6921574
forgot my face

>>6921575
Source?

>>6846843
Bunnyman armed for combat.

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>>6921575
nice rabbit

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>>6925133
This one is dedicated to you, anon.

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>>6846843
Line control is a pretty important skill and an underrated one, I think.
General accuracy is really helpful for the sake of efficiency. The less time you spend fiddling around drawing and redrawing lines the better. It also makes your linework nicer and more expressive when you become proficient at it. Perfect straight lines and circles isn't the point at all though.

genuine hardcore autism is a hell of a drug

>>6856032
aww, that robot picked a flower

>>6871185
you’re a moron

my line control resets every day. Its like I'm drawing for the first time every time I sit down with my tablet and have to recreate my custom brush.

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>>6846843
On a side note:

Does anyone have like good ways of practicing line control?
Exercises/warmups/studies/etc.

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>>6846843

If you're this anon
>>6948887
line control so important that you need to spend 10 minutes AT LEAST per line

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>>6846843
Felt inspired

>>6846843
when it comes to sketching with a ballpoint it's important & it will speed up your shit, not the end all be all but useful. alot of artists get by with really messy sketch styles like muratta chicken scratches and erases a fuck ton, seen a few digital artists like ruan jia throw down a ton of messy blobs and mold it into stuff.

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Schizoanon, do this:
>buy a big canvas (as big as feasible with budget/availability/can fit in your car or living space)
>paint it all one color
>wait for that color to dry
>paint something in your usual style on it (not super small, try to make there be less space between the drawing and edge of canvas than space that the drawing takes up)
>sell to museum or art gallery

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>>6846843
Drew myself a bun. Thanks.

reminder to sage and hide schizo threads.

>>6967393
pyw

very cool schizopixel anon here a cade

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>>6846843
Really depends on the era (audience)

Back in the 80s and 90s, clean line art was all the rave. Nowadays clean line art would probably get labeled as stiff or boring.

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>>6846843
The point of line control isn't to draw perfect shapes, but to be able to put images in your mind on paper with accuracy. Of course, that isn't to say that imperfections are inherently bad, nor am I saying that one can't draw "spontaneously", but it's a good skill. Generally though, it's something you pick up over time as you draw more, so it's never anything you have to "learn", so I wouldn't worry about it.
That's what I think, anyway

>>6846843
I think it's insanely overrated and borderline useless. Just think of it that way, how many times was your drawing bad cause you didn't perfectly draw a line. A great artist could draw better with his feet than an amateur with everything at his disposal that alone should explain how unimportant it is to draw clean lines

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>>6972357
This
Besides, you can always do clean lines on new layers, using tools if necessary
But getting shapes you imagine is much harder no matter the tools used

>>6846843
You’re style is like a less coherent, less confident taku obata

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>>6846843
I can't draw absolutely perfect straight lines and ellipses but it's nice to be able to confidently put down lines where I want them to go 95% of the time without worrying about it. Doing hand eye coordination exercises for an hour a day really goes a long way in my experience.

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>>6846843
Can't believe sccribble schizo has surpassed 4 month schizo and esdeath schizo. GMI

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Merry Christmas

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>>6999207
How do you make this

>>6846843
It is but drawing accurate irregular shapes such as anything from real life is equally as important as drawing accurate regular shapes like circles and lines. Ultimately what you should do is find an efficient mental algorithm to translate what you physically see into the paper and, when drawing something novel, keep that physical quality or bend it in such a way that it fits your mental vision perfectly. You learn it by training your brain not to take premeditated shortcuts and draw a different line/shape than what you really want. Its a combination of muscle training, awareness training, and endurance training

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I really want to see you make a background

You don't need two threads at once. I wish there was a way to IP hide your posts cause they're really annoying and just come off as spammy.

And no I don't care about his 'seniority'.

>>6948040
gotta bump da schizo thread

>>7008195
people without mental illness hide them.

this brush slaps tho what brush is that

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Less important than pen control, obviously.

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Did I kill another thread?

I'm sorry.

(My 2nd attempt)

>>7009344
didn't need those people anyway

>>6846843
based schizo

>>7016701
Awesome!

>>6875325
this is my favourite so far, innawoods vibes

>>7017128
Thanks.

I was going to Photoshop some lettering afterwards and make it a tshirt, but it can be done better.

>>7011562
Good proportions in this gesture. I still recommend you try doing paintings.

>>7017331
Do you paint?

Is your reference a fucking scrying mirror

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>>7018869
Yes, I like painting animals. For me, it's soothing to paint the texture of the fur.

Buaimp

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Becoming more readable and interesting. Good job. I agree that you should try painting or dip/fountain pen trad. Also consider adding just a bit of background to contextualize your figures.

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Nice
>>7017267
I know people don’t usually reply to your posts. I admire that you keep posting anyway. Your 70s-style characters are probably too different from the derivative anime coom slop that pervades this board. I think I’ve seen improvement in your posts since you got back into it. In my opinion, you render your stuff nearly to death, but in your better pieces you make sure to leave completely white areas and add heavier line weight to appropriate sections.

>>7033975
I come home from a night of tossing boxes around, smoke a bowlful of this Legal Franken-bud, and start pontificating on all sorts of shit.

Like now! :D

But,I have been drawing for 50 years(I was a prolific grammar school artist),and have experienced a bunch of art stuff that some might find useful in their own journey of self expression. If not...saying it anyway. If the 4chan machinery didn't take currency other than crypto,then I might consider getting Name,so those who see it can either expect a show or dive for cover to the next futa orgy picture or whatever. I can chart my own journey, plans derailed, a random spark that powered a story for over 180 strips,its loss,the drought,the reawakening that persists to this day. What I have the most of is not what I would call Product, but the story demanding existence, clinging to the page,crowding it,such was the Snowglobe story,at 180 pages only two-thirds told. I am proud of it,and the story that had foreshadowing occurring over years and mysteries slowly unraveling was a wonder to behold,each strip a one way journey in ink. My current project is videoing myself drawing the first introductory story in hyperlapse, so viewers can see things that will be iconic appearing before their eyes. But taking a break,and adding black pen to last year's work, since pencil will render them into smudges without serious use of dullcoat. And I like the effect of the pen,and to do so is its own education. I am doing this to a two page story I did over the summer. The journey never ends.

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>>7034097
Impressive, do you have a gallery or something like that online?

>>7038670
I have a Deviantart collection of old stuff, and now a YouTube channel where I video myself drawing wild wacky stuff.

https://www.deviantart.com/jeremeyprickles/gallery

https://youtube.com/@The_Dreaming_Dragon?si=CVQxbHbnFUyk-65w

>>7040315
he be like “reporting for duty, serg”

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nice

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>>6846843
I love you

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>>6846843
Depends on what you want your art to look like, also how'd I do?

Do you post your art anywhere else?

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>>6846843
>important?
yes, getting better at clean lines will make you better at messy lines

>how

practice

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>>6846843
If you don't understand forms and volumes, it won't make much difference. Otherwise, it's very convenient

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>>6846843
sterile linework isn't necessary. but what you are doing is akin to doodling, which will get you no where. you still need to draw with purpose.

>>7077404
This is amazing

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>>7080641
Likewise to all of your stuff; you've made some of my favorite pieces of art, with it being hard to explain the profound effect they've had on my life. I won't pretend to know your intentions when making these, but your works stir me with a great feeling of wistfulness and malaise: bringing to light a many other emotions and thoughts within myself that I wouldn't be able to express truer as anything other than these frantic figures. They've helped me come to terms with and reflect on a multitude of matters in my changing life—and for that you have my deepest thanks.

Maybe a bit silly to say all this about some schizoposts on a basket weaving internet forum, but I really do love them. I hope to continue seeing these threads on /ic/ for a long time, and will sorely miss you when the day comes that they stop.

>>6846843
>How important... perfect...
Overrated.
It's a valid skill, but it's more something that you should notice one day has gotten better, it's not a test you can cram for.
>How do you do this?
Perfect? You don't and you wouldn't want to. Your lines will get better as part of a feedback loop. Draw shit. Look at your work. Repeat and trust your brain. Just keep drawing different shit. It will happen. Don't worry about it.

>>7083181
Hear, hear!

>>6871185
He was doing this many years before AI

>>6846843
depends on how you want your art to be interpreted

>>6875325
i think this one is cool in a way
i generally like abstract and fucked up styles, but your's is a visual "running-nails-across-the-chalk-board" to me; makes me feel like scratching myself all over, ugh

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>>6846931
wtf you shit on anons in the beg and int for using less, and imperfections lines, and yet you suggest otherwise here? hypocrit

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these are actually inspiring to make my own pieces

>>6873896
/ic/-schizoanon dynamicline scribblecore with monochromatic abstract influences; ie schizoanon art.

I've never posted in a schizo thread before. I've silently observed on and off for years. Years. 5 or 6 years. I come, I go, you stay. I'm happy to say my first comment is one of genuine admiration. I really hope to be more like you someday. I wish you well, schizo anon. I hope day to sit proximal to you on public transportation

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all of this screams "I've already had therapy, I guess I should just live with my schizo condition. the meds just make me tired"

It depends on what you're drawing. If you want to draw explosive flowing gestures, then yeah. If it's about inking, you can build up your ink lines with small strokes, you don't have to execute everything with a single stroke if you can't.

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now we’re cookin with gas

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OP, please seek psychiatric help.